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Norwalk businessman asks customers to help him get Obama impeached
By MIKE FITZPATRICK | Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:52 AM EDT
NORWALK
Register photo/LUKE WARK Ric Hills, owner of Maple City Cabinetry, stands at the entrance of his store in Norwalk where a large sign showing his opinion of President Barak Obama sits. Hills has started his own petition in an effort to impeach the president which he will send to members of Ohio congress and senate.
Not everyone is a fan of President Barack Obama -- but some critics are more vocal than others.
Ric Hills, owner of Maple City Cabinetry, started his own petition to have Obama impeached.
Customers who come to Hills' business at 31 E. Main St. are greeted by a huge sign asking them to sign the petition.
Hills said he plans to send the petition to Congress.
"I do not like the way the government is running its business," Hills said. "I don't like the direction the government is going. It's not just Obama. We are headed very quickly to a socialist state, and I don't like that."
Hills considers himself a member of the Constitution Party. He was a Republican who voted for Sen. John McCain in the 2008 election. In his store on Thursday, the distinctive sounds of right-wing talk show host Rush Limbaugh filled the air.
Reaction to his sign has been positive, Hills said.
"I had one negative phone call, but it's running 24 (or) 25 to 1 in favor," Hills said.
A woman spotted signing the petition would not say why she did so.
Hills set up the sign in front of his store on Monday, but the landlord who owns the building asked him to take it inside, he said.
Hills said he's against Obama's plans for universal health care.
"Why should you pay for my health insurance?" Hills asked.
Hills also said the federal government is in constant violation of the Tenth Amendment, which reserves for the states all powers not delegated to the federal government.
Tom Jarrett, who owns the Northern Ohio Antique Mall store across the street from Hills' business, said he'd never bring politics into his store for fear of alienating customers.
"I can't criticize the guy," Jarrett said of Hills. "It's what he believes in. Would I do it in front of my store? Absolutely not."
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watchmen wrote on Oct 19, 2009 10:51 AM:
" Do We Really Want CANADA’s’ Type of HEALTHCARE?
By Dr. Chuck McGowen
According to a survey of Canadian physicians by the Fraser Institute, waiting lists are a major problem in the healthcare delivery system of our neighbor and ally to the north. 800,000 Canadians are waiting for treatment at any given time. The average passage of time from the patient’s referral by a primary care physician through a consultation with a specialist, to final treatment, across all specialties, averaged 17.7 weeks in 2005 and that doesn’t include the time the patient spent waiting to see the primary care physician in the first place. In an article published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal at least 50 patients in Ontario alone have died in the past 12 months while on the waiting list for a cardiac catheterization. It is also an undisputed fact that many Canadians waiting for various treatments suffer chronic pain die while on the waiting list. That bit of sad information came directly from Canadian Supreme Court Chief Justice Beverly McLachlin in a 2005 decision striking down part of Quebec’s universal care law.
Physicians are also in short supply partly because Canadians wanting to become physicians come to America for training and those who do train in Canada move south across our northern boarder to practice in the border states of New York, Montana and Washington. Canada has roughly 2.1 practicing physicians per 10,000 people, far less than the 24 physicians per 10,000 people in the United States. Worse, the number of physicians per 1,000 people has not grown at all since 1990. Today in our country fewer than 30% of medical school graduates are planning on entering a primary care practice in Family Medicine or Internal Medicine. Availability of access to high technology is also limited in Canada. The US has 5 times as many MRI units per million people as does Canada. The US has 3 times as many CT scanners. In point of fact, there are more CT scanners in the city of Seattle than in the entire province of British Columbia.
Preventive care has also suffered under the socialized, government controlled medical system in Canada. U.S. patients are actually more likely than Canadians to receive preventive care for chronic or serious health conditions. For example, the US healthcare system is better at common screenings such as breast cancer (mammograms), cervical cancer (Gyn visits with pap smears), prostate cancer (PSA studies) and colon cancer (colonoscopies)
59% of Canadians believe that their system requires “fundamental changes.” 18% believe the system needs to be scrapped and totally rebuilt. If we are about to receive what the President and his supporters in Congress want to give us, the so called “public option” we too will be experiencing what a majority of Canadians would like to see fundamentally changed; but, believe me when I warn, then it will be all too late! "
By Dr. Chuck McGowen
According to a survey of Canadian physicians by the Fraser Institute, waiting lists are a major problem in the healthcare delivery system of our neighbor and ally to the north. 800,000 Canadians are waiting for treatment at any given time. The average passage of time from the patient’s referral by a primary care physician through a consultation with a specialist, to final treatment, across all specialties, averaged 17.7 weeks in 2005 and that doesn’t include the time the patient spent waiting to see the primary care physician in the first place. In an article published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal at least 50 patients in Ontario alone have died in the past 12 months while on the waiting list for a cardiac catheterization. It is also an undisputed fact that many Canadians waiting for various treatments suffer chronic pain die while on the waiting list. That bit of sad information came directly from Canadian Supreme Court Chief Justice Beverly McLachlin in a 2005 decision striking down part of Quebec’s universal care law.
Physicians are also in short supply partly because Canadians wanting to become physicians come to America for training and those who do train in Canada move south across our northern boarder to practice in the border states of New York, Montana and Washington. Canada has roughly 2.1 practicing physicians per 10,000 people, far less than the 24 physicians per 10,000 people in the United States. Worse, the number of physicians per 1,000 people has not grown at all since 1990. Today in our country fewer than 30% of medical school graduates are planning on entering a primary care practice in Family Medicine or Internal Medicine. Availability of access to high technology is also limited in Canada. The US has 5 times as many MRI units per million people as does Canada. The US has 3 times as many CT scanners. In point of fact, there are more CT scanners in the city of Seattle than in the entire province of British Columbia.
Preventive care has also suffered under the socialized, government controlled medical system in Canada. U.S. patients are actually more likely than Canadians to receive preventive care for chronic or serious health conditions. For example, the US healthcare system is better at common screenings such as breast cancer (mammograms), cervical cancer (Gyn visits with pap smears), prostate cancer (PSA studies) and colon cancer (colonoscopies)
59% of Canadians believe that their system requires “fundamental changes.” 18% believe the system needs to be scrapped and totally rebuilt. If we are about to receive what the President and his supporters in Congress want to give us, the so called “public option” we too will be experiencing what a majority of Canadians would like to see fundamentally changed; but, believe me when I warn, then it will be all too late! "
watchmen wrote on Oct 19, 2009 10:49 AM:
" Do We Want England’s HEALTHCARE?
By Dr. Chuck McGowen
As with most nations where the central government controls the delivery of healthcare, in England waiting lists are a major problem. As many as 750,000 British citizens are currently awaiting admission to National Health System (NHS) hospitals. England cancels 100,000 operations per year because of shortages in healthcare personnel and beds.
Cancer patients can wait up to 8 months for treatment. During that period aggressive cancers can spread locally (moving from stage I to stage II), or produce distant metastases and thus become stage IV cancer and inoperable. Almost 20% of colon cancer patients who are considered treatable when first diagnosed are incurable by the time treatment is finally offered. In the United States during 2008 there were 108,000 new cases of colon cancer diagnosed and promptly treated. If we would have had the types of delays that England has experienced under a “public option” type of healthcare system (socialized medicine) 21,600 of those patients would have become incurable. This is the kind of healthcare that President Obama, Vice President Biden, Speaker Pelosi and Senate Majority leader Reid want to foist upon us.
The English government’s official target for diagnostic testing is a wait of no more than 18 weeks. A “target” is a best case scenario. For most specialties, only 30-50% of patients are diagnosed and treated within 18 weeks. That would be because of longer delays in receiving mammograms, colonoscopies, cardiac catheterizations, various blood tests and radiological studies, etc. For trauma and orthopedics patients, only 20% receive their needed care inside of 18 weeks. Thus, if grandma falls and is suspected of having a fractured hip, she has a 20% chance of getting an X-ray earlier than 18 weeks. Over 50% of British patients wait more than 18 weeks for care of all kinds. During that waiting period some will get better on their own (in self limiting diseases such as the common cold, poison ivy, tension headache, etc) while others with compromised immune systems and really serious, unrecognized problems could become much worse and die.
New drugs are rationed through limited access in England. The breast cancer drug, Herceptin, was proven to be effective in 1998. The United Kingdom didn’t start buying Herceptin for its patients until 2002. Then there is the explicit rationing through QALY, which is an acronym for “quality-adjusted life years.” If the government determines that your quality of life years (productivity, usefulness, independence, taxable income, etc) are not worth the funds they will have to spend to keep you alive and/or comfortable, you won’t get the treatment you need. That ratio determines whether or not you qualify for procedures such as kidney dialysis, open heart or coronary by-pass surgery, other expensive procedures and technologies (total knee and hip replacement), organ transplant, etc. Patients judged too ill or aged for the procedures to be cost effective may be denied treatment altogether.
Citizens who are poled and asked about their healthcare system in Great Brittan have made the following statements: The need for reform is “Urgent”: 63%; the need for reform is “Desirable”:24%; All told then, the need for reform is desirable or urgent in the minds of 87% of England’s citizens. Fully 60% of Britons believe that making it easier for patients to spend their own money on health care would improve quality. That is what health savings accounts and catastrophic hospitalization insurance under a free market system would do for all of us in the US. So, as the title asks “Do We Want England’s HEALTHCARE?” The answer is a resounding "NO," and neither do the Brits. "
By Dr. Chuck McGowen
As with most nations where the central government controls the delivery of healthcare, in England waiting lists are a major problem. As many as 750,000 British citizens are currently awaiting admission to National Health System (NHS) hospitals. England cancels 100,000 operations per year because of shortages in healthcare personnel and beds.
Cancer patients can wait up to 8 months for treatment. During that period aggressive cancers can spread locally (moving from stage I to stage II), or produce distant metastases and thus become stage IV cancer and inoperable. Almost 20% of colon cancer patients who are considered treatable when first diagnosed are incurable by the time treatment is finally offered. In the United States during 2008 there were 108,000 new cases of colon cancer diagnosed and promptly treated. If we would have had the types of delays that England has experienced under a “public option” type of healthcare system (socialized medicine) 21,600 of those patients would have become incurable. This is the kind of healthcare that President Obama, Vice President Biden, Speaker Pelosi and Senate Majority leader Reid want to foist upon us.
The English government’s official target for diagnostic testing is a wait of no more than 18 weeks. A “target” is a best case scenario. For most specialties, only 30-50% of patients are diagnosed and treated within 18 weeks. That would be because of longer delays in receiving mammograms, colonoscopies, cardiac catheterizations, various blood tests and radiological studies, etc. For trauma and orthopedics patients, only 20% receive their needed care inside of 18 weeks. Thus, if grandma falls and is suspected of having a fractured hip, she has a 20% chance of getting an X-ray earlier than 18 weeks. Over 50% of British patients wait more than 18 weeks for care of all kinds. During that waiting period some will get better on their own (in self limiting diseases such as the common cold, poison ivy, tension headache, etc) while others with compromised immune systems and really serious, unrecognized problems could become much worse and die.
New drugs are rationed through limited access in England. The breast cancer drug, Herceptin, was proven to be effective in 1998. The United Kingdom didn’t start buying Herceptin for its patients until 2002. Then there is the explicit rationing through QALY, which is an acronym for “quality-adjusted life years.” If the government determines that your quality of life years (productivity, usefulness, independence, taxable income, etc) are not worth the funds they will have to spend to keep you alive and/or comfortable, you won’t get the treatment you need. That ratio determines whether or not you qualify for procedures such as kidney dialysis, open heart or coronary by-pass surgery, other expensive procedures and technologies (total knee and hip replacement), organ transplant, etc. Patients judged too ill or aged for the procedures to be cost effective may be denied treatment altogether.
Citizens who are poled and asked about their healthcare system in Great Brittan have made the following statements: The need for reform is “Urgent”: 63%; the need for reform is “Desirable”:24%; All told then, the need for reform is desirable or urgent in the minds of 87% of England’s citizens. Fully 60% of Britons believe that making it easier for patients to spend their own money on health care would improve quality. That is what health savings accounts and catastrophic hospitalization insurance under a free market system would do for all of us in the US. So, as the title asks “Do We Want England’s HEALTHCARE?” The answer is a resounding "NO," and neither do the Brits. "
letsbehonest wrote on Aug 2, 2009 1:14 PM:
" WHERE DO I SIGN UP?
If a majority vote as fools, they have nobody to blame but themselves. "
If a majority vote as fools, they have nobody to blame but themselves. "
I wrote on Jul 24, 2009 12:57 PM:
" If Chung Lee thinks the government can run the healthcare system efficiently, I'd like to know, why? Perhaps he feels that Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, The Postal System, the Veterans Administration, etc, are being run efficiently. He seems smarter than that. Maybe he can give even one example of government efficiency. If Chung Lee thinks universal healthcare can be achieved in this country without rationing and a decrease of service, as well as a monumental price tag that could force the nation into bankruptcy, I've got a bridge in Shanghai I'd like to sell him. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 24, 2009 9:43 AM:
" Chung Lee think it is funny that such a small town/small minded person such as Big Mouth knows people in Canada. Chung Lee smells a canned story. Just for the sake of argument, let's say the two men in this fabricated example lived here and were 2 of th the 47 million people without healthcare. How long would they have to wait to get operated on? The answer is never, because even if they did find a job with medical benefits, they would have a pre-existing condition and would not be covered anyway. Chung Lee say better late than never.
Chung Lee is amazed by the gullible people who believe these scare tactics (sponsored by the insurance companies) that claim that healthcare will be rationed. and level of service will decrease. Chung Lee watched pathetic woman on tv who cut off breasts because she was worried she would get cancer and it would not be covered under a new plan. Seems like the Republicans are offering labotomies to their followers. "
Chung Lee is amazed by the gullible people who believe these scare tactics (sponsored by the insurance companies) that claim that healthcare will be rationed. and level of service will decrease. Chung Lee watched pathetic woman on tv who cut off breasts because she was worried she would get cancer and it would not be covered under a new plan. Seems like the Republicans are offering labotomies to their followers. "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 23, 2009 11:40 PM:
" I don't know about the UK but Canada's heathcare is far from perfect. Many border cities Detroit, Buffalo, and Fargo, N.D. have an influx of Canadians because the wait is so long in Canada. You can be on your death-bed and unable to get an appoinment. I mentioned Fargo because I have a friend who lives in Canora, Sask. who needed a knee replacement. A friend of Warren's (John) had 2 knee replacements and Warren was sent to the same doctor and over a six month wait. Both of John's knees are messed up and he walks with 2 canes. Be careful what you wish for, you might not like it. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 23, 2009 1:49 PM:
" Chung Lee pretty sure that Lilworm and Pastor Ron are same person. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 23, 2009 1:46 PM:
" chung lee and JTF, when i quote scripture to substantiate a point of view that you disagree with, your argument is with God and not me. if people quit going to church because of Biblical teaching, i don't know what to say except of course, maybe they'll be more comfortable in a liberal church that rejects God's word for more "progressive views". "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 23, 2009 12:50 PM:
" Chung Lee hopes that Obama healthcare plan will have coverage for mental help so that lilworm can get the help that they need. Truly disturbing person. "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 23, 2009 11:46 AM:
" Conservatives like lilmurm are the reason why a lot of folks I've spoken to don't go to church any more.
If his line of thinking is partially the result of religious dogma then I say "thanks, but no thanks." "
If his line of thinking is partially the result of religious dogma then I say "thanks, but no thanks." "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 23, 2009 11:42 AM:
" Chung Lee hears the lilworm crazy train. If you can't think for yourself and get your ideas from the uneducated radio talking heads.......get on board!!!!!!! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 23, 2009 10:04 AM:
" poor, uneducated chung lee doesn't understand the difference between a politial party and a "form of government". socialism/communism oppresses the freedoms of the people where democracy and a free republic ensure them: the UK and canada as examples?? get real. God is against capitalism? perhaps you should re read the portions of the Bible where He blessed the faithful with great riches and it's not having money that's evil but rather making it your god. as for socialism/collectivism-the Lord spoke much about personal responsibility, planning for one's future and repeatedly denounced laziness/slothfulness. your rhetoric rings hollow, chung. two questions: are you an illegal alien and i'm curious as to why you or your parents left the "GREAT" communist china if indeed you are from there. for someone who denounces much of Biblical teaching when it doesn't suit your ideology, i'm surprised that you quote from it in a feeble attempt to justify workers supporting non producers which is what barry's agenda and socialism is. what part of "if a man doesn't work, neither should he eat" and "if a man does not provide for his family, he is worse than an infidel" don't you understand? i believe this refers to those who have the means and good health to work but refuse to, not those falling on temporary hard times through no fault of their own. do have any idea how silly you really sound? oh, and by the way, the food was provided during a preaching service by HIm as the crowd was growing hungry, not as an ongoing program to feed them because they refused to work. what is that quote? give a man a fish.... but teach him to fish.... have a good day. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 23, 2009 6:36 AM:
" Wow. Chung Lee never thought that lilworm could become more delusional. Chung Lee wonder which part of political freedom doesn't lilworm understand? If anything is "unamerican" it is people who dictate which political parties are accepted.
Chung Lee has read that book called the Bible. Chung Lee seems to remember that Jesus conducted a lot of miracles. The miracle with the fish and bread Jesus provided food to all the people and did not give the rich 10 fish because they were worthy and the poor 1 fish because they were less worthy. Chung Lee think this is also the same book that says "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." Chung Lee doesn't think that sound like an endorsement of capitalism.
Socialism/communism cannot co-exist with chrisianity as history has proven? That is news to Chung Lee. Just curious a couple of countries that lilworm mentions in speaking out against universal healthcare are the UK and Canada........are these not Christian nations? Chung Lee needs to know what the version is in crazyland. Thanks you with the good laughs lilworm. "
Chung Lee has read that book called the Bible. Chung Lee seems to remember that Jesus conducted a lot of miracles. The miracle with the fish and bread Jesus provided food to all the people and did not give the rich 10 fish because they were worthy and the poor 1 fish because they were less worthy. Chung Lee think this is also the same book that says "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." Chung Lee doesn't think that sound like an endorsement of capitalism.
Socialism/communism cannot co-exist with chrisianity as history has proven? That is news to Chung Lee. Just curious a couple of countries that lilworm mentions in speaking out against universal healthcare are the UK and Canada........are these not Christian nations? Chung Lee needs to know what the version is in crazyland. Thanks you with the good laughs lilworm. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 23, 2009 2:33 AM:
" no stereotyping here: my allegiance is with God, not the immoral government that barry is creating and socialism/communism cannot co-exist with christianity as history has proven. a few SR bloggers have no problem with self professed communists in high government positions but most of us find that rather un-american so i really have nothing more to say except that time will tell who had it right, won't it? as for the late hour, my time is now my own and i'm very much at peace with my life and will not allow obamamania and obamanomics to affect me in the least. "
santownresident wrote on Jul 22, 2009 10:26 PM:
" Wow "murm" first you were a God fearing christian with strong political views. Now your starting to throw around stereotypical comments typical of a heathen. How many faces do you have? These bloggers are'nt getting to you? It's showing. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 22, 2009 8:04 PM:
" not liking the contributors of the story does not change the truth of the content. why don't you prove to yourselves that the demos did vote down the said ammendment. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 22, 2009 8:02 PM:
" none of you barry lackies can dispute the fact that the republican ammendment to prevent illegals from obtaining the benefits of this bill was overridden by democrats. no background checks. nothing. while americans will be fined yearly for failure to carry insurance, it appears that the illegals won't be required to. when a president punishes law abiding citizens by requiring them to support illegals instead of enforcing existing laws to eradicate them ,that is treasonous and a betrayal, chung lee. too bad no one in washington has the guts to bring charges. however, i do think it's rather funny that you koolaid drinkers will be paying the high taxes for decades to come, not to mention those of you running small businesses. i'll be sitting back LOL all the while. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 22, 2009 6:49 PM:
" David Duke, Grover Norquist and the John Birch Society must have been too busy to contribute. "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 22, 2009 6:18 PM:
" Here's the bio on the author of lilmurm's "article", in which he quotes Michelle Malikn...MICHELLE MALKIN!...
Rick Moran is a professional writer/editor living in Streator, IL. He is a contributor to American Thinker as well as being its associate editor. He is also Chicago editor of Pajamas Media and is proprietor of the website Right Wing Nuthouse.
Enough Said. "
Rick Moran is a professional writer/editor living in Streator, IL. He is a contributor to American Thinker as well as being its associate editor. He is also Chicago editor of Pajamas Media and is proprietor of the website Right Wing Nuthouse.
Enough Said. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 22, 2009 2:58 PM:
" ANOTHER INTERESTING ARTICLE TO EXPOSE BARRY'S AGENDA: READ IT AND WEEP.
July 22, 2009
Democrats make it safe for illegal immigrants to use Obamacare
Rick Moran
If Congress passes Obamacare - about a 50/50 chance at this juncture - illegal immigrants will not have to worry about anyone checking the status of their citizenship to confirm their eligibility for this entitlement.
That's because House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee defeated a reasonable amendment from Nevada's Dean Heller (R) that would have "enforced income, eligibility and immigration-verification screening on all ObamaCare patients," according to Michelle Malkin in her syndicated column appearing in the New York Post:
Immigration analyst James R. Edwards Jr. reported last week in National Review that "no health legislation on the table requires federal, state or local agencies -- or private institutions receiving federal funds -- to check the immigration status of health-program applicants, so some of the money distributed via Medicaid and tax credits inevitably would go to illegal aliens." Moreover, the Senate Finance Committee plan creates a preference for illegal aliens by exempting them from the mandate to buy insurance.
That's right. Law-abiding, uninsured Americans would be fined if they didn't submit to the ObamaCare prescription. Law-breaking border-crossers and deportation fugitives would be spared.
For years, advocates of uncontrolled immigration have argued that illegals aren't getting free health care, and that even if they were, they'd not be draining government budgets. The fiscal crisis in California gives lie to those talking points. In March, the Associated Press reported that Sacramento and Contra Costa counties were slashing staff and closing clinics due to the prohibitive costs of providing non-emergency health services for illegals.
"The general situation there is being faced by nearly every health department across the country, and if not right now, shortly," Robert M. Pestronk of the National Association of County and City Health Officials, told the AP.
Talking out of both sides of your mouth can be difficult. But when it comes to the stealing of government services by illegal immigrants, Democrats have little problem in assuring us that no illegals will benefit from Obamacare while at the same time saying they're not a drain on the system anyway.
Yeah. Just like saying illegal immigrants don't vote but even if they do, so what?
Hat Tip: Ed Lasky "
July 22, 2009
Democrats make it safe for illegal immigrants to use Obamacare
Rick Moran
If Congress passes Obamacare - about a 50/50 chance at this juncture - illegal immigrants will not have to worry about anyone checking the status of their citizenship to confirm their eligibility for this entitlement.
That's because House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee defeated a reasonable amendment from Nevada's Dean Heller (R) that would have "enforced income, eligibility and immigration-verification screening on all ObamaCare patients," according to Michelle Malkin in her syndicated column appearing in the New York Post:
Immigration analyst James R. Edwards Jr. reported last week in National Review that "no health legislation on the table requires federal, state or local agencies -- or private institutions receiving federal funds -- to check the immigration status of health-program applicants, so some of the money distributed via Medicaid and tax credits inevitably would go to illegal aliens." Moreover, the Senate Finance Committee plan creates a preference for illegal aliens by exempting them from the mandate to buy insurance.
That's right. Law-abiding, uninsured Americans would be fined if they didn't submit to the ObamaCare prescription. Law-breaking border-crossers and deportation fugitives would be spared.
For years, advocates of uncontrolled immigration have argued that illegals aren't getting free health care, and that even if they were, they'd not be draining government budgets. The fiscal crisis in California gives lie to those talking points. In March, the Associated Press reported that Sacramento and Contra Costa counties were slashing staff and closing clinics due to the prohibitive costs of providing non-emergency health services for illegals.
"The general situation there is being faced by nearly every health department across the country, and if not right now, shortly," Robert M. Pestronk of the National Association of County and City Health Officials, told the AP.
Talking out of both sides of your mouth can be difficult. But when it comes to the stealing of government services by illegal immigrants, Democrats have little problem in assuring us that no illegals will benefit from Obamacare while at the same time saying they're not a drain on the system anyway.
Yeah. Just like saying illegal immigrants don't vote but even if they do, so what?
Hat Tip: Ed Lasky "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 22, 2009 12:13 AM:
" A guy started his day early having set his alarm clock (made in Japan) for 6:00 A.M.
While his coffee pot was brewing (made in China) He shaved with his electric razor (made in Hong Kong.)
He put on a dress shirt (made in Sri Lanka) designer jeans (from Singapore) and tennis shoes (made in Korea)
He sat down to his breakfast cooked in an electric skillet (made in India) and figured using his calculator (made in Mexico) how much he had to spend.
He set his watch (made in Taiwan)to the radio (made
in India) and drove his car (made in Germany) and Filled it with gas (from Saudi Arabia) searching for a good paying American job.
At the end of another discouraging and fruitless day he decided to relax a while and put on his sandals (made in Brazil) Poured a glass of wine
(bottled in France) and turned on his computor (made
Malaysia) While watching his TV (made in Indonesia)
he wondered why he has been unable to find a good Paying American job.
NOW, He's Depending on Our President
(MADE IN KENYA)
Come On, Have a little chuckle. "
While his coffee pot was brewing (made in China) He shaved with his electric razor (made in Hong Kong.)
He put on a dress shirt (made in Sri Lanka) designer jeans (from Singapore) and tennis shoes (made in Korea)
He sat down to his breakfast cooked in an electric skillet (made in India) and figured using his calculator (made in Mexico) how much he had to spend.
He set his watch (made in Taiwan)to the radio (made
in India) and drove his car (made in Germany) and Filled it with gas (from Saudi Arabia) searching for a good paying American job.
At the end of another discouraging and fruitless day he decided to relax a while and put on his sandals (made in Brazil) Poured a glass of wine
(bottled in France) and turned on his computor (made
Malaysia) While watching his TV (made in Indonesia)
he wondered why he has been unable to find a good Paying American job.
NOW, He's Depending on Our President
(MADE IN KENYA)
Come On, Have a little chuckle. "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 21, 2009 11:32 PM:
" We can't spare anymore time:
Go to-- http://www.senate.gov/
On 1040 forms for 2009 You'll pay 50 dollars a gun and be fingerprinted. S.B. 2099
http://www.opencongress/org/bill/111-h45/text
H.R. 45 Page 16 Section 305
Child access provision-- Guns must be locked an inaccessible to anyone under 18. They would have a right to inspect you anytime and punishable up to 5 years in prison.
It's possible to knit-pick on any persons statements and especially our spelling or errors in grammar. The fact is, most who post here regularly are fairly educated and only differ in opinion. There are positive ways to refute a persons statements without name calling. May I suggest we all refrain from the name calling. Idiot, liar, dummy; Let's not slander each other. There is plenty of these kinds of people in Columbus and Washington. We might not like it but they're both Democrats and Republicans. All of them have done little to merit a good defense from any of us. "
Go to-- http://www.senate.gov/
On 1040 forms for 2009 You'll pay 50 dollars a gun and be fingerprinted. S.B. 2099
http://www.opencongress/org/bill/111-h45/text
H.R. 45 Page 16 Section 305
Child access provision-- Guns must be locked an inaccessible to anyone under 18. They would have a right to inspect you anytime and punishable up to 5 years in prison.
It's possible to knit-pick on any persons statements and especially our spelling or errors in grammar. The fact is, most who post here regularly are fairly educated and only differ in opinion. There are positive ways to refute a persons statements without name calling. May I suggest we all refrain from the name calling. Idiot, liar, dummy; Let's not slander each other. There is plenty of these kinds of people in Columbus and Washington. We might not like it but they're both Democrats and Republicans. All of them have done little to merit a good defense from any of us. "
Massengill Winston Smith wrote on Jul 21, 2009 9:26 PM:
" We have to continue to attack President Ohmama. He is down to 59% approval rating and though our Republican congress members are only at 38% a defeat of the healthcare waste plan could be Barry's Waterloo. Rush has never been wrong and the nazi facist communist socialists are running scared. We will have a Republican majority come 2010. "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 21, 2009 9:10 PM:
" lilmurm...I have been around for a while and I am no Spring chicken.
I can definitely say that I have never seen more ignorant things said by any one person in my many years as you have posted in this comment section.
Congratulations, you are in a league of your own. "
I can definitely say that I have never seen more ignorant things said by any one person in my many years as you have posted in this comment section.
Congratulations, you are in a league of your own. "
santownresident wrote on Jul 21, 2009 7:25 PM:
" When your in the classroom you either pass or fail. Nobody is lowering the bar for blacks,whites,latinos,asians,or affirmative action whoever when it comes to grades. Affirmative action may have got him into Harvard, but affirmative didn't graduate him with a 3.5 or better GPA to achieve Magna C. Laude status. For you to think otherwise is ridiculous. Oh yea right Harvard will graduate a failing black student...c'mon really? His education didn't provide him with a lucrative career? He taught law as a professor at the Chicago school of law. I would think a gig like that would definately place him in the upper middle class. Oh and 400,000 a year he'll earn for the rest of his life as being elected President aint bad either. No seriously I hope Obama does'nt fail because America needs to be strong again. You however want to see America fail just so you can say.......I TOLD YOU SO, and that's sad. With that mindset who is the real patriot....you or Obama? "
Massengill Winston Smith wrote on Jul 21, 2009 5:11 PM:
" I don't care about the facts. I only care about the opinions that I hear on the radio from noon until 3 pm. Rush Limbaugh is certainly a Great American. This country would be well served by a Limbaugh/Hannity ticket. The only problem is that they would be the only people in the history of US to run for the office and not have a college degree. Somebody at Liberty better get on top of this and give them degrees so the demoncraps will not make this an issue.
Those liberal intellectuals are lying once again. They claim that only the top of the class are Magna Sum Laude. We all know that ain't the truth because I heard it from Pat Buchanan who is an expert on these issues. It is time for you whining liberal shut up and let the true Americans lead this country! "
Those liberal intellectuals are lying once again. They claim that only the top of the class are Magna Sum Laude. We all know that ain't the truth because I heard it from Pat Buchanan who is an expert on these issues. It is time for you whining liberal shut up and let the true Americans lead this country! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 21, 2009 12:28 PM:
" do you really believe that schools of higher learning DON'T lower the bar for affirmative action students which barry may have been? his "education" certainly didn't provide him with a lucrative career did it? his undergraduate degree at occidental college was in political science and other than politics and community organizing, the only real job that he ever held was that of an attorney for a short stint where he did not give an impressive performance per co workers. his grades and IQ tests have never been revealed as far as i know and for the credentials you list, we all know how many unqualified students are bestowed these "honors" due to their backgrounds. i wouldn't believe everything i read, as you liberals like to say. even if barry was intelligent, that does not equate to presidential attributes such as wisdon and common sense. to prove my point, you only need to listen to him talk without a teleprompter. he "huhs" and "hmmms" so often, it's embarrassing and the guy cannot construct a coherent sentence by himself. the interesting background of who financed and supported barry through college might account for some of his "achievements" and as for lying, it's just that i'm not naive enough to believe anything without seeing the grades, etc. if he graduated with honors, it was probably due to a warped grading curve or based on his interesting background. "
santownresident wrote on Jul 21, 2009 11:32 AM:
" Yeah you can pass a class with a "D" but you can't graduate with a "D" average, Obama did neither. As far as the truth to your statement...you fail. Obama graduated from Harvard Law school in 1991 with a Juris Doctor Magna C. Laude law degree. Magna C. Laude in case you were not aware is awarded to students who graduate with high distinction. He was also the first black to be appointed President of the esteemed Harvard Law Review, an accomplishment unto itself. Now..you said he did not graduate with honors and you tried to undermine his accomplishments. I respect those who's opinion is different from mine, but I don't respect liars. You referred to yourself before as one who follows Gods word. Your confusing to me as a persecutor and liar that calls himself a christian. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 21, 2009 11:25 AM:
" the mayo clinic came out yesterday against barry's socialized healthcare plan after he used the facility as a positive example to pass his scheme. as of now, very few news outlets are carrying the story so we'll see how it will be handled by the MSM. it's also been leaked that the bill would possibly provide for government funded abortions and since over 1/2 of the country are now considered pro life, this could be problematic for barry. it's funny because he stated to the Pope that he wanted to reduce abortions in the US but i don't think the Pope is that taken in by this liar and government funding will reduce them?? the bill has MANY areas where reference is made to minorities, underrepresented americans and the disadvantaged when discussing med schools, research, funding, etc. equal access for all? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 21, 2009 10:36 AM:
" an addict is an addict is an addict and most likely, he was admitted to college through affirmative action(lesser qualified students admitted due to minority status) like sotomayor was per her own words. barry has spent close to a million dollars hiding all his past records, including grade transcripts. have you seen a picture of him during those years? needless to say, it's apparent his top priority was not his studies. as far as faking it, you can "pass" with a D average. he is no scholar. "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 21, 2009 1:10 AM:
" Listened to 700 AM (Cinn.) while driving home.
1) Barry's approval rating dropped 3 more points
2) Joe Biden to become more vocal in new policies
3) Even Democrats want to read the GM deal. They
have been kept in the dark from the negotiating
Committee and want to read the final deal
Imagine that, not disclosing the facts
4) All financial experts, not employed by the
government, say that mandatory Health Care will
be the final blow to small businesses "
1) Barry's approval rating dropped 3 more points
2) Joe Biden to become more vocal in new policies
3) Even Democrats want to read the GM deal. They
have been kept in the dark from the negotiating
Committee and want to read the final deal
Imagine that, not disclosing the facts
4) All financial experts, not employed by the
government, say that mandatory Health Care will
be the final blow to small businesses "
santownresident wrote on Jul 20, 2009 9:03 PM:
" Yeah and that "addict" earned a masters degree from Harvard university(that aint no community college). Looks like he made some pretty good decisions taking apptitude tests. You can't fake Harvard. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 20, 2009 8:00 PM:
" chung lee wrote "he/she wonders how a drug addict can have so many followers and also wondered about the mental capacity of people who think drug addicts have good ideas?" wow, what a hypocritical thing for a barry hussein lacky to say. i think the belief is that once an addict, always and addict even if a recovering one. didn't barry use cocaine in the past per his own admission and he is still addicted to nicotine but the sheeple still worship him and idolize his faulty decision making. also, patrick kennedy was dragged out of yet another rehab stint to vote on the cap and trade bill and this is someone making laws for this country? ted kennedy was drunk the night he drove his car into the water and allowed a young woman to die so does he no longer have an alcohol problem? there are those with issues on both sides so chung would do well to think before he/she speaks with the forked tongue. "
A Sovereign American wrote on Jul 20, 2009 6:28 PM:
" I see we are still arguing about which political party is better. If McCain would have been elected, he would be signing the same bills as Obama, more freedom gone either way. Then lilmurm would find a way to justify it because he is a republican. Republican puppet, democratic puppet, same agenda, same long term goals. When will you guys wake up? "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 20, 2009 6:28 PM:
" Chung Lee no mean say that. Chung Lee say that because Chung Lee mock the ditto heads who said that for 8 years. Chung Lee so confused how protesting the government was bad then and now it is true patriotism. Chung Lee think there is some revisionist history taking place now. Chung Lee wonder who a drug addict can have so many followers? Chung Lee wonder about mental capacity of people who think drug addict have good ideas. Chung Lee jst glad that there were real Americans stepped up and served when that dirt bag got a medical to stay home and nurse his pimple on his fat butt with his mommy. "
goofus wrote on Jul 20, 2009 3:43 PM:
" Whoa just the facts, back up the bus, it wasn't I who uttered those words
it was the leftist Chung Lee who was trying to say if you aren't in favor of Barry Hussein Osama we are un american "
it was the leftist Chung Lee who was trying to say if you aren't in favor of Barry Hussein Osama we are un american "
pntbutterandjelly wrote on Jul 20, 2009 11:33 AM:
" Mr. Hill,
You have every right to be upset and to display your sentiments in public however....make sure you have your focus on the right target, know why, know what to do about it and be prepared to take critcism personally and professionlly. You havwe alienated a lot of people with your short-sighted and ill-planned actions. Please reconsider the ultimate fate our once great democracy is headed, who is truly responsible and what positive directions we (yes, you, I and all other caring/giving/concerned)Americans must soon embark upon before it's too late. Please. "
You have every right to be upset and to display your sentiments in public however....make sure you have your focus on the right target, know why, know what to do about it and be prepared to take critcism personally and professionlly. You havwe alienated a lot of people with your short-sighted and ill-planned actions. Please reconsider the ultimate fate our once great democracy is headed, who is truly responsible and what positive directions we (yes, you, I and all other caring/giving/concerned)Americans must soon embark upon before it's too late. Please. "
pntbutterandjelly wrote on Jul 20, 2009 11:25 AM:
" More to Mr. Hill,
with the rapidly escalating medical health care costs AND insurance premiums to match...the only true remedy beyond a national health care system is.........ECONOMIC EUTHENASIA. "Ya can't pay...you suffer and die." Simple plan. Simple outcome! I hope more people start thinking.
Ps. Maybe that's why China is so important..."we Americans have become another expendable commodity in a scociety governed by greed and throw away mentality". The only real question left is, "What are WE going to do about it?" Hide? Pretend it isn't happening? Run for cover? OR...get a belly full enough that we fight back? Personally...I opt for the later choice of action. What about you? "
with the rapidly escalating medical health care costs AND insurance premiums to match...the only true remedy beyond a national health care system is.........ECONOMIC EUTHENASIA. "Ya can't pay...you suffer and die." Simple plan. Simple outcome! I hope more people start thinking.
Ps. Maybe that's why China is so important..."we Americans have become another expendable commodity in a scociety governed by greed and throw away mentality". The only real question left is, "What are WE going to do about it?" Hide? Pretend it isn't happening? Run for cover? OR...get a belly full enough that we fight back? Personally...I opt for the later choice of action. What about you? "
pntbutterandjelly wrote on Jul 20, 2009 11:13 AM:
" In case Mr. Hill is not very observant....we ARE a socialist country. If you pay taxes and the governing enity doles it out as it sees fit then that, in its simplest form is scocialism. How many people can (you the reader) Mr. Hill name who insn't recieving some type of payment from "Uncle Sam"? Farmers get a piece. All of our states do as well as our cities. The tobacco industry (of all companies!) get some. Hello...even communist China is on the dockets! SO....it only becomes a matter of "who" is getting it and to what degree. See MY point? *FYI* This whole direction has been formulated by both major political parties.
Also...I know Mr. Jarret on a personal and business level as well as his strong political views AND I applaud what he said in the newspaper article. Atta boy Tom!
Mr. Hill, maybe you really need to rethink politics, philosophy, business and life in general. I will agree Mr. Oboma isn't perfect but he's a whole lot better than we've had for the past 8 embarassing years. Look at what Barack HAS to do because of it.
See `ya later. "
Also...I know Mr. Jarret on a personal and business level as well as his strong political views AND I applaud what he said in the newspaper article. Atta boy Tom!
Mr. Hill, maybe you really need to rethink politics, philosophy, business and life in general. I will agree Mr. Oboma isn't perfect but he's a whole lot better than we've had for the past 8 embarassing years. Look at what Barack HAS to do because of it.
See `ya later. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 20, 2009 11:12 AM:
" This is the article quoted, note the last line.
The idea that rich-country consumers should pick up the tab for some of China’s industrial emissions has been gaining currency lately—but not from within the Obama administration.
More spin thanks to the republican propaganda
machine. "
The idea that rich-country consumers should pick up the tab for some of China’s industrial emissions has been gaining currency lately—but not from within the Obama administration.
More spin thanks to the republican propaganda
machine. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 20, 2009 9:44 AM:
" another interesting article today about barry's chinaboy selling out america.
ARTICLE READS:
Team Obama not only intends to bankrupt American and send all manufacturing overseas via the Cap-&-Tax legislation...
They also want America to pay for China's emissions.
The Wall Street Journal reported, via HotAir:
Commerce Secretary Gary Locke said something amazing—U.S. consumers should pay for part of Chinese greenhouse-gas emissions. From Reuters:
“It’s important that those who consume the products being made all around the world to the benefit of America — and it’s our own consumption activity that’s causing the emission of greenhouse gases, then quite frankly Americans need to pay for that,” Commerce Secretary Gary Locke told the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai.
The idea that rich-country consumers should pick up the tab for some of China’s industrial emissions has been gaining currency lately—but not from within the Obama administration. The argument is that many of China’s factories churn out cheap stuff for the West, not for domestic consumption, so those consumers are actually responsible for the emissions. China, of course, loves the idea.
The US should probably be paying for global health care, too.
Or, is that already part of the Obamacare plan? "
ARTICLE READS:
Team Obama not only intends to bankrupt American and send all manufacturing overseas via the Cap-&-Tax legislation...
They also want America to pay for China's emissions.
The Wall Street Journal reported, via HotAir:
Commerce Secretary Gary Locke said something amazing—U.S. consumers should pay for part of Chinese greenhouse-gas emissions. From Reuters:
“It’s important that those who consume the products being made all around the world to the benefit of America — and it’s our own consumption activity that’s causing the emission of greenhouse gases, then quite frankly Americans need to pay for that,” Commerce Secretary Gary Locke told the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai.
The idea that rich-country consumers should pick up the tab for some of China’s industrial emissions has been gaining currency lately—but not from within the Obama administration. The argument is that many of China’s factories churn out cheap stuff for the West, not for domestic consumption, so those consumers are actually responsible for the emissions. China, of course, loves the idea.
The US should probably be paying for global health care, too.
Or, is that already part of the Obamacare plan? "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 20, 2009 9:23 AM:
" Hysterical to see goofus quote Archie Bunker to try and make a point.
But then again there is no difference between a fictional ignorant bigot like the Bunker TV character and the ignorant bigot right wingers who post on here. "
But then again there is no difference between a fictional ignorant bigot like the Bunker TV character and the ignorant bigot right wingers who post on here. "
Robert Nickester wrote on Jul 20, 2009 8:50 AM:
" Way to go bud, You would have a hard time impeaching him at this point, BUT I stand behind you 100%. Obviously you have some intelligence, well others, they just look at their pocket book and are blinded by this smooth talking idiot.But sooner then they think, he will be exposed as one of the greatest perpetrators of all time. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 20, 2009 8:38 AM:
" Old guard 'left us broke'; Look at books raising more questions.
That reminded me of the transition from Bush to Obama.
The country was broke when Obama took office,
but that doesn't count, all the bad numbers are
now attributed to him.
Do I agree with everything he does?
Not by a long shot.
Do I want another republican in the White House?
Not by a long shot. "
That reminded me of the transition from Bush to Obama.
The country was broke when Obama took office,
but that doesn't count, all the bad numbers are
now attributed to him.
Do I agree with everything he does?
Not by a long shot.
Do I want another republican in the White House?
Not by a long shot. "
6079 Smith W wrote on Jul 20, 2009 8:24 AM:
" jimbo wrote on Jul 20, 2009 8:09 AM:
‘Want to know how a republican party might unite it's
people...........’
Good Morning Sunshine!
Ask ol’ Joe Biden, Barry has the whole country to drive into bankruptcy in order to save it – no comparison. "
‘Want to know how a republican party might unite it's
people...........’
Good Morning Sunshine!
Ask ol’ Joe Biden, Barry has the whole country to drive into bankruptcy in order to save it – no comparison. "
6079 Smith W wrote on Jul 20, 2009 8:15 AM:
" MHL wrote on Jul 19, 2009 9:19 PM:
‘… until we figure out healthcare…The problem is how to pay for it,’
Quite an ‘understatement’ ya got there.
The answer is simple – look in the mirror.
There are only 2.5 millionaires in the U.S.; Obozo can’t tax ‘em enough to pay for it all.
See: http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2009/06/24/millionaire-population-drops-15/
Healthcare, energy and education (Obama’s campaign platform) did not put the U.S. and the world in this economic mess – over leveraging did.
Business and consumers simply borrowed too much.
And how’s ol’ Barry trying to fix the problem? By borrowing!
Like our current situation, The Great Depression was caused by excessive credit and overspending.
If you think ol’ Barry inherited a ‘problem,’ he’s helping to create a much bigger one.
We’re creating a Treasury bubble of massive govt. debt that ain’t gonna be pretty when it bursts!
Remember: No country in the history of the world has ever spent its way to prosperity. "
‘… until we figure out healthcare…The problem is how to pay for it,’
Quite an ‘understatement’ ya got there.
The answer is simple – look in the mirror.
There are only 2.5 millionaires in the U.S.; Obozo can’t tax ‘em enough to pay for it all.
See: http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2009/06/24/millionaire-population-drops-15/
Healthcare, energy and education (Obama’s campaign platform) did not put the U.S. and the world in this economic mess – over leveraging did.
Business and consumers simply borrowed too much.
And how’s ol’ Barry trying to fix the problem? By borrowing!
Like our current situation, The Great Depression was caused by excessive credit and overspending.
If you think ol’ Barry inherited a ‘problem,’ he’s helping to create a much bigger one.
We’re creating a Treasury bubble of massive govt. debt that ain’t gonna be pretty when it bursts!
Remember: No country in the history of the world has ever spent its way to prosperity. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 20, 2009 8:09 AM:
" Want to know how a republican party might unite it's
people...........
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090720/NEWS09/907200311 "
people...........
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090720/NEWS09/907200311 "
6079 Smith W wrote on Jul 20, 2009 7:57 AM:
" MHL wrote on Jul 19, 2009 9:19 PM:
‘Yet Wall street has shown a 35 percent improvement…’
Ya better check your stats.
IMO, The Total Stock Mkt. Index is the best indicator of the entire U.S. equities market. It's up 6% year-to-date.
See: http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/DWC/charts
We’ve still got four months left in the yr. – an eternity in the investment world where ‘anything’ can happen and probably will. "
‘Yet Wall street has shown a 35 percent improvement…’
Ya better check your stats.
IMO, The Total Stock Mkt. Index is the best indicator of the entire U.S. equities market. It's up 6% year-to-date.
See: http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/DWC/charts
We’ve still got four months left in the yr. – an eternity in the investment world where ‘anything’ can happen and probably will. "
goofus wrote on Jul 20, 2009 7:23 AM:
" This so strange, it's like the words of Yogi Berra, "this is like deja vu all over again". We have a leftwing wing nut telling a rightwing individual that this is America, Love it or leave it. I'm curious on how the leftwing reacted during the Vietnam war when the right told them the same thing. In the words of Archie Bunker"this is America, love it or leave it,".Simply unbeleivable, by the way, B, Hussein's approval rating is down to 49% in Ohio. I knew I was in the majority. Source for the rating is today's Drudge Report under the story about the increasing displeasure with Osama within the democrats. One last point, I see nothing wrong with calling POTUS Barry, because potus stands for Politicians Often Trick US "
6079 Smith W wrote on Jul 20, 2009 7:22 AM:
" Geithner Has Tough Task In Marketing US Debt:
‘…Geithner, who traveled last week to the Middle East and Europe, has to convince foreign investors to keep buying Treasury bills, notes and bonds; they hold nearly half of the government's roughly $7 trillion in publicly traded debt.'
‘If the Obama administration has a credible plan to bring the deficits down, they are keeping it a deep secret at the moment,’ said Michael Mussa, senior fellow at the Peterson Institute and former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund.’
TRANSLATION:
Geithner: PLEASE, PLEASE buy our increasingly worthless paper! Other than borrowing, printing and spending money and hoping jobs miracuraously appear, we have no plan.
See: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/19/geithner-has-tough-task-i_n_240340.html
(Trust me, I get it that you Obamoids believe that ol’ Barry is a lot smarter than you and that’s why you believe his nonsense.) "
‘…Geithner, who traveled last week to the Middle East and Europe, has to convince foreign investors to keep buying Treasury bills, notes and bonds; they hold nearly half of the government's roughly $7 trillion in publicly traded debt.'
‘If the Obama administration has a credible plan to bring the deficits down, they are keeping it a deep secret at the moment,’ said Michael Mussa, senior fellow at the Peterson Institute and former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund.’
TRANSLATION:
Geithner: PLEASE, PLEASE buy our increasingly worthless paper! Other than borrowing, printing and spending money and hoping jobs miracuraously appear, we have no plan.
See: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/19/geithner-has-tough-task-i_n_240340.html
(Trust me, I get it that you Obamoids believe that ol’ Barry is a lot smarter than you and that’s why you believe his nonsense.) "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 20, 2009 12:33 AM:
" Lilworm how mature of you to call the POTUS "Barry". The kid was self consicous about his foreign sounding name an wanted an Americanized name when he was growing up. Is that really that difficult to understand. He never thought that 30 year later wingnuts would want to call him his childhood name. Chung Lee thinks it should be lilworm poopie pants. Doesn't that sound mature? Maybe traitor terrorist sympathizer lilworm poopie pants. America love it or leave it lilworm! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 19, 2009 11:06 PM:
" oh my, i just saw something of interest in MHL's post since i usually just skim and don't really read them. we conservatives are referred to as "you capitalists" so we must have another resident socialist/communist which DOES explaing all the previous posts. you cannot support barry hussein and be a capitalist i guess so if you're not a business owner and work for someone else, you'd better hope THAT capitalist is successful, no? this country will be great once again when obamanomics fail and the private sector picks up the slack as usual but it's our great past that has put me into a situation where i'm not dependent on barry's schemes nor affected by his temporary destruction. hope you can say the same but the majority will be at his mercy. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 19, 2009 10:57 PM:
" poor MHL, so immature that he/she cannot come up with an original name for me so just steal chung's. not very creative of you, i must say. i do almost laugh out loud reading your posts-you are so in the tank for barry that due to your inability to justify his stupidity, you venture back into the past to bash president bush who has been out of office since january. how long before barry will own his decisions without deflecting blame? we'll all expect you to rush to his defense over the next few months as his schemes fail and fail they will as the history of socialism around the world will bear witness to that. i think your sophomoric name calling reflects on you, not me. by the way, when the article mentioned barry sweating, they meant that figuratively-like worry and concern over the fading glamour which is so fleeting in the real world. this is only going to get sooo much better and any day now, he will sic rhambo on his distractors as is the chicago way. LOL!!! "
kath2860 wrote on Jul 19, 2009 10:53 PM:
" Thanks, duhast, and another good book which I just finished reading is called "The Godless Constitution" by Isaac Kramnick and R. Laurence Moore. When I go to the library this week I will look for the one you suggested. "
MHL wrote on Jul 19, 2009 10:21 PM:
" Does that surprise you JIMBO? It is part of the GOP playbook. Think of Jimmy Swaggert,James Baker, Ted Haggert,The senator with the wide stance.W himself.
If they ask God for forgivness and guidance, then the LILWORMS will certainly follow and all is forgiven. Sad, shallow, but true.
I remember listening to the Clinton impeachment hearings on NPR, My favorite moment came on Saterday when GOP sen. Livingston who was spearheading the impeachment announced he was stepping down due to his own misdeeds. Darn hypocrits. "
If they ask God for forgivness and guidance, then the LILWORMS will certainly follow and all is forgiven. Sad, shallow, but true.
I remember listening to the Clinton impeachment hearings on NPR, My favorite moment came on Saterday when GOP sen. Livingston who was spearheading the impeachment announced he was stepping down due to his own misdeeds. Darn hypocrits. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 19, 2009 9:34 PM:
" South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, still clinging to office after admitting to an extramarital affair, wrote in an opinion piece released Sunday that God will change him so he can emerge from the scandal a more humble and effective leader.
Don't that just bring a tear to your eye? "
Don't that just bring a tear to your eye? "
MHL wrote on Jul 19, 2009 9:19 PM:
" LILworm: Good,Great isn`t it great to see a predident roll up his sleeves,to work for the betterment of his country!!!!!!( I think I just made up a word.) Isn`t it great to see a president willing to improvise,and compromise!!!
I know it`s frustrating to you seeing Obama`s popularity and all,It was frustrating to me seeing W`s popularity soar after 9-11. I kept thinking if only he would have read a MEMO it would have never happened.
Anyhow let`s look at the here and now!! Our economy is in a rut,Obama inherited a mess which I`m sure most Americans of sound state of mind can agree upon. Some things have worked ,some have not. While consumer spending and employment have gone down , the deficit has gone up!! Yet Wall street has shown a 35 percent improvement and the top ten banks receiving TARP money have paid their loans back in full. Great news for you capitalists.
Bottom line is until we figure out healthcare,we`re doomed. 36 percent of Americans are satisfied with their "Health care." While according to the World Health Organization we rank 37th in the world in "health care." Now I know you will respond like your pal Hannity (Ignore all the statistics and call the WHO a socialist liberal think tank, and we got the best gosh darn healthcare in the world.) but 64 percent of the country ( The other 36 never had to use it,)think we need a fix.
The problem is how to pay for it,but I trust OBAMA to hunker down,roll up his sleeves and get things done unlike the last administrarion who was always a day late and a dollar short. I point to 9-11 and Katrina as clear cut examples. "
I know it`s frustrating to you seeing Obama`s popularity and all,It was frustrating to me seeing W`s popularity soar after 9-11. I kept thinking if only he would have read a MEMO it would have never happened.
Anyhow let`s look at the here and now!! Our economy is in a rut,Obama inherited a mess which I`m sure most Americans of sound state of mind can agree upon. Some things have worked ,some have not. While consumer spending and employment have gone down , the deficit has gone up!! Yet Wall street has shown a 35 percent improvement and the top ten banks receiving TARP money have paid their loans back in full. Great news for you capitalists.
Bottom line is until we figure out healthcare,we`re doomed. 36 percent of Americans are satisfied with their "Health care." While according to the World Health Organization we rank 37th in the world in "health care." Now I know you will respond like your pal Hannity (Ignore all the statistics and call the WHO a socialist liberal think tank, and we got the best gosh darn healthcare in the world.) but 64 percent of the country ( The other 36 never had to use it,)think we need a fix.
The problem is how to pay for it,but I trust OBAMA to hunker down,roll up his sleeves and get things done unlike the last administrarion who was always a day late and a dollar short. I point to 9-11 and Katrina as clear cut examples. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 19, 2009 6:16 PM:
" below is a portion of Politico's lead story today. i couldn't have said it better myself.
FROM THE ARTICLE:
Finally, we’re starting to see him sweat.
President Barack Obama made his personal icy cool the trademark
of his campaign, the tenor of his White House and the hallmark of an early run of successes at home and abroad. But as the glamour wears off and a long, frustrating summer wears on, he is being forced to improvise — stooping to respond to political foes and adjusting his tactics and demeanor for the trench warfare of a legislative agenda.
The root of the change is one that faces every president: Economic and international realities that resist political charm. Iran and North Korea have shown no interest in the president’s outstretched hand. The economy has delivered a double-whammy, with rising unemployment stirring voters’ concerns while sluggish growth deprives the government of tax revenues Obama would like to spend on new programs.
Health care reform, which once appeared flush with momentum from earlier congressional victories, is now on a slog through no less than five committees, which include Democrats who either aren’t sold on Obama’s expansive vision
or can’t figure out how to convince voters to pay for it.
“This is when it gets harder,” the president told supporters June 30.
And so it has.
In turn, Obama has adjusted, deviating from the playbook on every front.
The cool president has turned hot on the stump, stripping to shirtsleeves to lambaste doubters in New Jersey Thursday. He departed from his prepared remarks last week to accept a Republican challenge to take personal ownership of the economy: “That’s fine. Give it to me,” he said.
Even Obama's scripted speeches are deliberately more forceful, aggressive and direct in taking on critics, aides say. Friday remarks at the White House had a trash-talk edge – count me out and you’ll be sorry.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25114.html#ixzz0LkJZLPXE "
FROM THE ARTICLE:
Finally, we’re starting to see him sweat.
President Barack Obama made his personal icy cool the trademark
of his campaign, the tenor of his White House and the hallmark of an early run of successes at home and abroad. But as the glamour wears off and a long, frustrating summer wears on, he is being forced to improvise — stooping to respond to political foes and adjusting his tactics and demeanor for the trench warfare of a legislative agenda.
The root of the change is one that faces every president: Economic and international realities that resist political charm. Iran and North Korea have shown no interest in the president’s outstretched hand. The economy has delivered a double-whammy, with rising unemployment stirring voters’ concerns while sluggish growth deprives the government of tax revenues Obama would like to spend on new programs.
Health care reform, which once appeared flush with momentum from earlier congressional victories, is now on a slog through no less than five committees, which include Democrats who either aren’t sold on Obama’s expansive vision
or can’t figure out how to convince voters to pay for it.
“This is when it gets harder,” the president told supporters June 30.
And so it has.
In turn, Obama has adjusted, deviating from the playbook on every front.
The cool president has turned hot on the stump, stripping to shirtsleeves to lambaste doubters in New Jersey Thursday. He departed from his prepared remarks last week to accept a Republican challenge to take personal ownership of the economy: “That’s fine. Give it to me,” he said.
Even Obama's scripted speeches are deliberately more forceful, aggressive and direct in taking on critics, aides say. Friday remarks at the White House had a trash-talk edge – count me out and you’ll be sorry.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25114.html#ixzz0LkJZLPXE "
kURT wrote on Jul 19, 2009 12:35 PM:
" When government helps business it is called capitalist. When government helps the majority it is called left wing socialist,etc. Lilimurm you haven't spoken about ewg.org, because you know what I put there is true! Those with $$ & power never worry when we the people pay them. Corporate greed has wrecked our economy. "
Duhast wrote on Jul 19, 2009 12:11 PM:
" lilmurm, Winston. Et al.
There is a book I would suggest to you. I’ve not read it yet, but I plan on getting it. It’s called “Plain, Honest Men: The Making of the American Constitution” by Richard Beeman.
http://www.amazon.com/Plain-Honest-Men-American-Constitution/dp/1400065704
As I’m sure you all will be disappointed, I’m travelling for work. Be back in a week. Cheers!
P.S. If you guys get through the 544 pages while I’m gone, let me know how it is. I plan on ordering it when I finish some other reading. "
There is a book I would suggest to you. I’ve not read it yet, but I plan on getting it. It’s called “Plain, Honest Men: The Making of the American Constitution” by Richard Beeman.
http://www.amazon.com/Plain-Honest-Men-American-Constitution/dp/1400065704
As I’m sure you all will be disappointed, I’m travelling for work. Be back in a week. Cheers!
P.S. If you guys get through the 544 pages while I’m gone, let me know how it is. I plan on ordering it when I finish some other reading. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 19, 2009 10:36 AM:
" The more the lilworm continues with the blogs the more and more it sounds like Pastor Ron and the Lilworm are the same person. Chung Lee wonder why people criticize Iran for being a theocracy while advocating a christian theocracy at home. Chung Lee guess that is part of their platform of when you do it you are wrong but when we do it you are wrong. Seems like more revisionist history.
Pretty funny the lilworm claims that they were against much of what Bush did but for some reason these bloggers were the same ones who said it was "offering aid and comfort to our enemies" to speak out against the Bush administration when were were at war. Chung Lee guess the rules don't apply to them though. Speaking of desperation 1:28 am and 1:44 am posting on the blogs? Sounds pretty desperate to Chung Lee! "
Pretty funny the lilworm claims that they were against much of what Bush did but for some reason these bloggers were the same ones who said it was "offering aid and comfort to our enemies" to speak out against the Bush administration when were were at war. Chung Lee guess the rules don't apply to them though. Speaking of desperation 1:28 am and 1:44 am posting on the blogs? Sounds pretty desperate to Chung Lee! "
kath2860 wrote on Jul 19, 2009 10:05 AM:
" God endows the same rights to every one of His children, not just Americans. And God is not mentioned in the Constitution. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but Americans do not have exclusive rights to the Divine Creator. "
kath2860 wrote on Jul 19, 2009 9:58 AM:
" I think what is most disconcerting is the platform of the Constitution Party to which this man belongs. The preamble which they imply is part of the Constitution does not exist! It is NOT the actual preamble to our Constitution. It's a LIE, and a political party based on lies is a scary thing. Not much different from the communist propaganda of the former Soviet Union or North Korea. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 19, 2009 9:37 AM:
" chung lee must be familiar with chinese history but not that of the american founding fathers. they were absolutely against a large federal government that would create tyranny and control over the people no matter what name was attached to it. usually, when a government is corrupt, both the political and economic systems are oppressed as well as other freedoms destroyed such as religious. i believe it was thomas jefferson? who said when the people fear the government, you have tyranny. when the government fears the people, you have liberty. we receive our rights from our creator and not the politicians and shame on us if we allow them to steal what God has endowed upon us. as for rush, yes he was addicted to drugs but my understanding is that they were legal drugs that he was legitimately taking and became enslaved to unlike obama who snorted cocaine (his own admission), still drinks and has a tobacco addiction. sounds like a pretty weak character to me but wait-that cocaine use explains a lot about his politics and actions today. don't you sheeple worry your pretty little heads about the conservatives in the 2010 and 2012 elections. latest poll shows conservatives are 40% of the country now with 35% being independents and that is the base that obama is quickly losing. i believe that leaves the 25% that chung is confused about still supporting barry. kind of like rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic and the iceberg will be conservatism. if capitalism is so bad, how did we end up with this loser who fled china and what's the matter-your little business failed to put you in the same league as the truly successful and now you're resentful of anyone wealthy? those who fail to achieve usually call those who do "greedy". maybe you should focus more on your enterprise and stop being so jealous of others. it's just not becoming. "
DooDah wrote on Jul 19, 2009 9:25 AM:
" Fatie, Fatie Two by four,
Can't get through the storefront door!
Washing machine special at ALL department stores, too! "
Can't get through the storefront door!
Washing machine special at ALL department stores, too! "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 19, 2009 8:38 AM:
" Lilworm said: "maybe we can push one to deport chung lee and the rest of you to his homeland as i'm sure you'll fit right in there. if you grow tired of china, then there's always cuba, venezuela, north korea, iran or perhaps russia." Chung Lee no think that this is the sort of political freedom that the founding fathers envisioned. Chung Lee thinks that many of the right wing neo-con posters do not understand the difference between political systems and economic systems.
Chung Lee doesn't know how the founding fathers could be against something like modern communism since Karl Marx did not write Das Kapital until 1867.
Chung Lee also would like to point out that the founding fathers were against the formation of political parties but they knew that they would eventually be created. Speaking to the vision of the founding fathers Chung Lee would like somebody to tell him if there were any limitations on "freedom" specifically in regards to women and blacks. Thank you have nice day. "
Chung Lee doesn't know how the founding fathers could be against something like modern communism since Karl Marx did not write Das Kapital until 1867.
Chung Lee also would like to point out that the founding fathers were against the formation of political parties but they knew that they would eventually be created. Speaking to the vision of the founding fathers Chung Lee would like somebody to tell him if there were any limitations on "freedom" specifically in regards to women and blacks. Thank you have nice day. "
Captain Gutz wrote on Jul 19, 2009 8:27 AM:
" Hey Duhast,
If duhast had a brain tumor and the most qualified brain surgeon in the world (who happened to be a Republican) offered to do the surgery, would duhast turn them down? Would that make them less qualified? " "
If duhast had a brain tumor and the most qualified brain surgeon in the world (who happened to be a Republican) offered to do the surgery, would duhast turn them down? Would that make them less qualified? " "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 19, 2009 8:04 AM:
" Massengill Winston Smith
TRANSLATION:
Biden: So I said to the alcoholic, keep drinking and you’ll eventually get sober.
(Do you Obamoids actually ever read or listen to what these clowns say? You still understand English don't you?) "
Chung Lee think the translastion is more like this:
Biden: So I said to the Obama basher, keep reading and eventually you will educate yourself and see how unbridled capitalism and greed destroyed America.
Chung Lee always thought that in a free country the people can be affiliated with any political party they want. Apparently, some of the neo-conservative nazis want to have a McCarthy type scare campaign. Sounds like the neo-conservative nazis want to destroy political freedom to save it.
As far as 2010.......dream on. Chung Lee does not know of any person being elected with 25% of the vote (25% is the number of Republicans who could watch George Bush eat a baby and say it okay). You Rushbots that take your talking points from an uneducated and foaming at the mouth drug addict are in for a rude awakening. Rush Limbaugh is nothing more than a modern day Jim Jones and it is your ilk who is drinking the koolaid. "
TRANSLATION:
Biden: So I said to the alcoholic, keep drinking and you’ll eventually get sober.
(Do you Obamoids actually ever read or listen to what these clowns say? You still understand English don't you?) "
Chung Lee think the translastion is more like this:
Biden: So I said to the Obama basher, keep reading and eventually you will educate yourself and see how unbridled capitalism and greed destroyed America.
Chung Lee always thought that in a free country the people can be affiliated with any political party they want. Apparently, some of the neo-conservative nazis want to have a McCarthy type scare campaign. Sounds like the neo-conservative nazis want to destroy political freedom to save it.
As far as 2010.......dream on. Chung Lee does not know of any person being elected with 25% of the vote (25% is the number of Republicans who could watch George Bush eat a baby and say it okay). You Rushbots that take your talking points from an uneducated and foaming at the mouth drug addict are in for a rude awakening. Rush Limbaugh is nothing more than a modern day Jim Jones and it is your ilk who is drinking the koolaid. "
6079 Smith W wrote on Jul 19, 2009 7:23 AM:
" VP Joe Biden: ‘We Have to Go Spend Money to Keep From Going Bankrupt’
Thursday, July 16, 2009 -
‘And folks look, AARP knows and the people with me here today know, the president knows, and I know, that the status quo is simply not acceptable,” Biden said at the event on Thursday in Alexandria, Va. “It’s totally unacceptable. And it’s completely unsustainable. Even if we wanted to keep it the way we have it now. It can’t do it financially.’
’We’re going to go bankrupt as a nation,” Biden said.’
’Now, people when I say that look at me and say, ‘What are you talking about, Joe? You’re telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?’” Biden said. “The answer is yes, that's what I’m telling you.’
See: http://cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=51162
TRANSLATION:
Biden: So I said to the alcoholic, keep drinking and you’ll eventually get sober.
(Do you Obamoids actually ever read or listen to what these clowns say? You still understand English don't you?) "
Thursday, July 16, 2009 -
‘And folks look, AARP knows and the people with me here today know, the president knows, and I know, that the status quo is simply not acceptable,” Biden said at the event on Thursday in Alexandria, Va. “It’s totally unacceptable. And it’s completely unsustainable. Even if we wanted to keep it the way we have it now. It can’t do it financially.’
’We’re going to go bankrupt as a nation,” Biden said.’
’Now, people when I say that look at me and say, ‘What are you talking about, Joe? You’re telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?’” Biden said. “The answer is yes, that's what I’m telling you.’
See: http://cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=51162
TRANSLATION:
Biden: So I said to the alcoholic, keep drinking and you’ll eventually get sober.
(Do you Obamoids actually ever read or listen to what these clowns say? You still understand English don't you?) "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 19, 2009 1:44 AM:
" to I, this is uncanny. i was typing my response at the same time you were posting but mine took a little longer. yeah, i forced barry's band of blubbering socials to reveal their true colors and boy, did they ever. doesn't it all add up now? they defended his economic and foreign policies regardless of how dangerous and destructive they are to the US while also supporting massive taxes, the growth of big government, socialized healthcare and the cap and trade scheme which will put us at a disadvantage with china and india. most of us conservatives stand for our values and criticize our own party if we see them doing something contrary to american ideals but not the radicals who love barry to the point of denying our founding fathers' vision for america. i am so thankful that the few liberals on the SR blogs are insignificant in the overall picture. barry's supporterss are vehement in their loyalty but his approval numbers are shrinking every day and the more that americans see of his policies, the less they like them, even memebers of his own party. the more these liberals are annoyed with the truth, the more hostile they become so they must be getting quite scared about the 2010 election coming up. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 19, 2009 1:28 AM:
" well wintson, I, mikel and big mouth- the previous posts pretty much say it all in that the obamamaniacs will support anything he proposes, even socialism and communism. that makes perfect sense now because everything barry stands for is anti-american and they're blindly following him right off a cliff. of course the first ammendment does protect free speech but that doesn't mean that we want these radicals in office who despise our liberties, does it? at least i finally got you liberals to admit support for barry's socialism when backed into a corner by the truth, which is not surprising due to your previous comments which have been very telling. maybe we can push one to deport chung lee and the rest of you to his homeland as i'm sure you'll fit right in there. if you grow tired of china, then there's always cuba, venezuela, north korea, iran or perhaps russia. i can say i'm happy with my life decisions and investments that allow me to live in a manner so that i won't be contributing to barry hood's corrupt government so go right ahead and drink the koolaid. "
I wrote on Jul 19, 2009 1:17 AM:
" lilmurm, since your post at 7:01PM, five different liberal bloggers have attacked you, but, none have disputed your statement. Typical. Chung Lee came close to acknowleging Obama's appointment of socialists and communists to high government positions. Then, he started referring to jumping sharks and gays and lesbians and pretty much avoided responding to your statement. They all but admit that Obama is indefensible on the issues. But, hey, he's Obama so he must be right! "
6079 Smith W wrote on Jul 18, 2009 11:00 PM:
" Prepared remarks by Lawrence H. Summers, Director of the National Economic Council and Assistant to the President for Economic Policy
at an event held at the Peterson Institute for International Economics
July 17, 2009:
‘The rebuilt American economy must be more export-oriented and less consumption-oriented, more environmentally-oriented and less fossil-energy-oriented, more bio- and software-engineering-oriented and less financial-engineering-oriented, more middle-class-oriented and less oriented to income growth that disproportionately favors a very small share of the population.’
TRANSLATION:
Regardless of the BS we throw out and expect you Obama sheeple to swallow, you had better be prepared for high unemployment rates, higher energy and food costs and an overall lower standard of living.
And if you want a job in the future – get educated.
See: http://www.iie.com/publications/papers/paper.cfm?ResearchID=1264 "
at an event held at the Peterson Institute for International Economics
July 17, 2009:
‘The rebuilt American economy must be more export-oriented and less consumption-oriented, more environmentally-oriented and less fossil-energy-oriented, more bio- and software-engineering-oriented and less financial-engineering-oriented, more middle-class-oriented and less oriented to income growth that disproportionately favors a very small share of the population.’
TRANSLATION:
Regardless of the BS we throw out and expect you Obama sheeple to swallow, you had better be prepared for high unemployment rates, higher energy and food costs and an overall lower standard of living.
And if you want a job in the future – get educated.
See: http://www.iie.com/publications/papers/paper.cfm?ResearchID=1264 "
MHL wrote on Jul 18, 2009 10:37 PM:
" My favorite Bushism: "Our enemies are working day and night to destroy our freedoms ,but let me tell ya ,So are we."
My second favorite is " Due to frivolous malpractice suits .many OBYN`s can no longer practice their love on women."
Ahh there are so many more!!!!!!!! anyone care to share their fav? "
My second favorite is " Due to frivolous malpractice suits .many OBYN`s can no longer practice their love on women."
Ahh there are so many more!!!!!!!! anyone care to share their fav? "
kath2860 wrote on Jul 18, 2009 10:26 PM:
" lilmurm says "say what you want about president bush but he did not appoint enemies of the state to high government positions." EXCUSE ME?! What about his running mate? Not all "enemies of the state" are communists. A LOT of them are Republicans. "
Duhast wrote on Jul 18, 2009 7:52 PM:
" If lilmurm had a brain tumor and the most qualified brain surgeon in the world (who happened to be a socialist) offered to do the surgery, would she turn them down? Would that make them less qualified? "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 18, 2009 7:42 PM:
" Chung Lee wonders who exactly is shredding the Constitution? Seems to me that freedom of speech is protected by the 1st Amendment. So when exactly did it become illegal to have socialist views? Seems like lilworm is trying to jump the shark by sayin she is not a bigot. Chung Lee seems to remember some rather nasty remarks about gays. By the way did you know that Liz Cheney is a lesbian and that she adopted children with her partner? For some reason Chung Lee thinks that the lilworm probably has an exception for Liz because well........she is a Republican. "
kURT wrote on Jul 18, 2009 7:35 PM:
" YAWN. lilimurm still has not replied about ewg.org. Hate those facts lilimurm? Maybe you hate knowing how much $$$ we pay these "hard working" push button operators. "
Duhast wrote on Jul 18, 2009 7:25 PM:
" Hardly matters. Get it out of your system. She's in. Suks to be you.
BTW do you have a poster of McCarthy on your wall? Is there a lilmurm black ball list? "
BTW do you have a poster of McCarthy on your wall? Is there a lilmurm black ball list? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 18, 2009 7:01 PM:
" gee duhast, would someone be a member of socialist international if they were indeed not a socialist? feel free to do a background google on carol browner, barry's energy czar and also "self described communist" green czar, van jones. this is not my opinion so don't try to deflect the truth. say what you want about president bush but he did not appoint enemies of the state to high government positions. you're beginning to sound like bill clinton when you say "in what context i'm using the word socialist"-it is what it is. i am not a racist because i think all americans are equal unlike barry and sotomayor who believe worth comes from your ethnicity. i don't believe in affirmative action as they do either since the TOP achievers should receive promotions and jobs, not someone just because of their background or skin color. maybe you want an unqualified minority as a firefigher answering a call to your home if your family is in danger or do you want the one with the highest test scores no matter what race? if a white man had made the same statement about his decisions and race as she did, he would no longer be the nominee and if you're honest you'd admit that. she's not too keen on the 2nd ammendment either or maybe you don't know her opinion on the subject, just so the first hispanic gets nominated. trashing the constitution is wrong by whites, browns, blacks, asians, etc. and it's a very slippery slope to go down in the name of "diversity". "
Duhast wrote on Jul 18, 2009 4:46 PM:
" In the context in which you are using it, "socialists" is a completely subjective term. It is purely your opinion and merits no discussion. Next time, get your guy/gal elected and we'll call his/her appointees names. However, I doubt us radical lefties can do it with your “finesse”.
Now, if Sotomayor can be called a racist for saying “wise Latina” I hope you never run for office. Your posts make you sound like you have a large collection of pillow cases with two holes in them. "
Now, if Sotomayor can be called a racist for saying “wise Latina” I hope you never run for office. Your posts make you sound like you have a large collection of pillow cases with two holes in them. "
I wrote on Jul 18, 2009 12:22 PM:
" Obama sure does seem intelligent as he reads his speeches off his teleprompter, as he drags the country toward bankruptcy. To those outside the "American Idol" crowd, his actions speak louder than words. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 18, 2009 11:35 AM:
" i'm speaking of content, not delivery. your guy won but you still live in the past instead of holding barry responsible for anything. still no comment on the socialists he appointed? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 18, 2009 11:06 AM:
" you guys are so funny and predictable. anytime barry is attacked, you run to his defense as a doting spouse might. his naacp speech shows his vitriol towards anyone not a minority instead of recognizing their own actions contribute to their disadvantages. i know, he spoke of drugs and staying in school but not much was said about the other facets of their victim mentality/lifestyles. what about all the african american athletes who are multi-millionaires with bright futures who throw them away by using drugs, dui driving, beating women, adultry etc- vick, clarret and mcnair who lost his life due to his choices come to mind. barry still blames the "structures" of the past so how did he and sotomayor get where they are today. he sounds like is attorney general holder who stated we are a racist country. well, if we are, it's because of idiots like this with their entitlement mentality. those of us who are responsible would not raise our children to cry poor me all the time so why do we condone it as a society? "
Duhast wrote on Jul 18, 2009 10:24 AM:
" lilmurm,
I wish Bush had used a teleprompter more often. He wouldn't have sounded like such a dufus. "
I wish Bush had used a teleprompter more often. He wouldn't have sounded like such a dufus. "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 18, 2009 10:04 AM:
" lilmurm- Your "critique" of the President's NAACP speech reveal you to be completely out of touch with reality and filled with unwarranted vitriol. In fact it reveals YOU to be an "angry white man" with delusions of persecution.
You desperately need psychological and spiritual help.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way after reading your comments. "
You desperately need psychological and spiritual help.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way after reading your comments. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 18, 2009 8:22 AM:
" RE:I wrote on Jul 18, 2009 2:07 AM:Since you hammered mikel for his thoughts on controlling labor costs.
RE:mikel wrote on Jul 17, 2009 9:58 AM:
for those of you that don't understand the thinking of self made successful people here it is.
The above comment and the comments that followed,
I considered to be nebulous and misleading.
Many factors effect the business cycle, taxes being
just one.
The bottom line: When I make the statement that I
paid taxes all my life, I could and maybe should add that it was not always a pleasant task.
My personal least favorite was, personal property tax. Mumbled and grumbled every year.
But if you stand on the other side of the road and look at what the rollback of those taxes has caused,
it is not a pleasant outcome for all.
My least favorite comment that I read on this forum:
"We need to cut the taxes on the wealthy"
I'm not wealthy by any stretch of the imagination,
but don't cut my taxes, just spend them wisely. "
RE:mikel wrote on Jul 17, 2009 9:58 AM:
for those of you that don't understand the thinking of self made successful people here it is.
The above comment and the comments that followed,
I considered to be nebulous and misleading.
Many factors effect the business cycle, taxes being
just one.
The bottom line: When I make the statement that I
paid taxes all my life, I could and maybe should add that it was not always a pleasant task.
My personal least favorite was, personal property tax. Mumbled and grumbled every year.
But if you stand on the other side of the road and look at what the rollback of those taxes has caused,
it is not a pleasant outcome for all.
My least favorite comment that I read on this forum:
"We need to cut the taxes on the wealthy"
I'm not wealthy by any stretch of the imagination,
but don't cut my taxes, just spend them wisely. "
I wrote on Jul 18, 2009 2:07 AM:
" Jimbo, the reason I asked for the names of your businesses was to see how many people you employed and your handling of those employees so as to ensure profitability. Since you hammered mikel for his thoughts on controlling labor costs, I was hoping that we could see for ourselves just how well you took care of your employees and not take your word for it. Also, you use GM to point out the greedy consumers and manufacturers that have led to the demise of the economy of this country, but, do not mention the greedy UAW. You must be a union man. Obama may not have caused this mess, but, as a member of congress for two years, he contributed his share. I agree that this country is broke(blame republicans) and about to get broker(blame democrats). I don't think any of us, except Chung Lee, want to see China own this country. Why is Obama willing to go down that path? "
santownresident wrote on Jul 18, 2009 2:01 AM:
" Democrat or Republican, we all fall under "common man". Except for the top 3 percent that run this country. Obama's just a manager for something much larger that pulls the strings. The parties were established to create a false sense of entitlement for the "common man" and you aint entitled. Your in the same pot as everyone else -taxpayer. Democrats think they can make a difference and "common man" republicans think they're apart of the elite. NOT. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 18, 2009 1:09 AM:
" yeah, i know-a couple of typo errors. sorry but it's late. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 18, 2009 1:04 AM:
" i listened to barry's speech to the naacp and quite frankly, it was humorous to watch him make such a fool of himself. if you notice when he's speaking, he never looks directly into the camera but side to side, reading from his teleprompter. back and forth, back and forth, makes one dizzy. kind of reminds me of a bobblehead and a few minutes into the speech, he broke out into atrocious grammar and a southern drawl until i thought i was listening to a mississippi preacher . anyway, according to barry, racism is still felt my many in the US, namely blacks, hispanics, muslims and gays so i guess he doesn't have too much regard for whites whom he must perceive to be the cause of all the country's ills. he also bashed the rich: big surprise there folks. i would love to ask barry and other liberals why they hate the wealthy so much since they're the ones working hard to support the most of the minorities he mentioned. talk about biting the hand that feeds you. anyone who did not see this video should do so as it really emphasizes what most of us have known all along. this is an angry bi-racial who hates the success that a captialist america has provided and as always, aims to take from the rich and give to the poor. obamahood. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 17, 2009 11:45 PM:
" Chung Lee think that lilworm might be from the Sandusky St. Mary's class of 1989. "
Julie R. wrote on Jul 17, 2009 11:16 PM:
" Keep going ladies and gentlemen.....this is going to beat the whistleblower Elsebeth Baumgartner blog! "
jimbo wrote on Jul 17, 2009 10:27 PM:
" RE:I wrote on Jul 17, 2009 6:04 PM:
All had either my first name, or my last name in
the business name. My current business is under my last name. It was est in 1993.
At one time or another all business's have been given
a tax break of one kind or another, mine included.
For example: personal property tax.
That did not stop GM from going broke. Greed killed
the economy in this country, both the consumer and
the manufacturers contributed to the demise.
Chung Lee is correct in his statement that someday
the Chinese will own this country, that is the part
the Japanese don't own or control.
This country is broke and about to get broker.
Obama did not cause this mess and no republican
can restore the middle class. The republicans
are the voice of the rich, always have been.
When you reach the point where the Japanese control
the wages in this country, they won, we lost, get
used to it bub. "
All had either my first name, or my last name in
the business name. My current business is under my last name. It was est in 1993.
At one time or another all business's have been given
a tax break of one kind or another, mine included.
For example: personal property tax.
That did not stop GM from going broke. Greed killed
the economy in this country, both the consumer and
the manufacturers contributed to the demise.
Chung Lee is correct in his statement that someday
the Chinese will own this country, that is the part
the Japanese don't own or control.
This country is broke and about to get broker.
Obama did not cause this mess and no republican
can restore the middle class. The republicans
are the voice of the rich, always have been.
When you reach the point where the Japanese control
the wages in this country, they won, we lost, get
used to it bub. "
kURT wrote on Jul 17, 2009 8:56 PM:
" Lilimurm thank you! I stated earlier about Bush & his trickery regarding his veteran status. See this is what I'm about. All of these people at the top really don't give a *amn about you or me. The Dems just aren't as bad as the Republicans. You still are quiet about ewg,org lilimurm.........hmm "
I wrote on Jul 17, 2009 6:04 PM:
" Jimbo, why don't you tell us the names of all these profitable businesses you've run over the years so that we might truly appreciate your business expertise. Caution, however, you'll be opening yourself up to alot of jealous, liberal bloggers who can't stand the thought of someone getting ahead or that you might have made more money than the people you employed(even though you took all the risks). Sounds like you should be a republican. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 17, 2009 4:30 PM:
" RE:lilmurm wrote on Jul 17, 2009 2:41 PM:
may not be back til very late evening.
Hey, even a nonunion, wingnut deserves a break
now and then, unpaid of course.
FYI: I still have one business that I started
fifteen years ago, still in operation, still
profitable, still pay my share of taxes, still
happy as a clam. Dam, don't you wingnuts just
hate when that happens? "
may not be back til very late evening.
Hey, even a nonunion, wingnut deserves a break
now and then, unpaid of course.
FYI: I still have one business that I started
fifteen years ago, still in operation, still
profitable, still pay my share of taxes, still
happy as a clam. Dam, don't you wingnuts just
hate when that happens? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 17, 2009 2:41 PM:
" sorry, duhast but anyone that barry throws a baseball at is completely safe. and yes, sanford is a disgrace morally but i believe that the state ruled that he didn't break any laws. let south carolina take care of him like ohio would chastise it's own politicians. barry is head honcho of the entire country and as such, is detrimental to us all. did you complain when michell and the little obamanauts toured europe on the taxpayers' money or spent a few hundred thousand for their new york and chicago dates? it is so juvenile to change the subject everytime someone paints barry in an unfavorable light. however, the important things like communists in high places go unchallenged by the "challenged" SR bloggers. wasting taxpayer dollars is bad but stealing them by barry to foster socialism is far worse and that is what i'm fighting. i have to go for now and may not be back til very late evening. "
duhast wrote on Jul 17, 2009 2:25 PM:
" So tell me (he asked knowingly) why aren’t you posting “breaking news” about governor Sanford’s waste of taxpayer money to see his mistress? If it was a democrat, you would be all over that. If you are the (anonymous) activist that you claim to be, you should post all political injustices, not just ones about democrats. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 17, 2009 2:12 PM:
" barry just asked congress to grant him more power to control/set medicare reimbursement rates instead of allowing local control as it is now. let's bankrupt the hospitals and doctors now and this is almost laughable since barry promised to limit medicare cuts if the hospitals and doctors backed his socialist healthcare scheme. you know how he wields his chicago style thuggery to intimidate those into his way of thinking. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 17, 2009 2:10 PM:
" Shouldn it be Barrynomics or traitornomics and Barrycrap and traitorcrap. Chung Lee feel very mature with coming up with such funny sayings. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 17, 2009 1:56 PM:
" i think they're a clever play on words that are very on target. liberal democrats are full of c.ap and "nomincs" has followed other presidents' names so why are you whining, duhast? i guess wingnuts, etc are more mature phrases. do you try to be funny or does it just happen with your posts? "
duhast wrote on Jul 17, 2009 1:51 PM:
" Do you think Mikel is as pleasant to work for as he is conversing with on these blogs?
Lilmurm, how do you expect to be taken seriously when you sound like an irritated 5 year old? Democraps, obamanomics? Will you soon refer to the president as poopy pants? "
Lilmurm, how do you expect to be taken seriously when you sound like an irritated 5 year old? Democraps, obamanomics? Will you soon refer to the president as poopy pants? "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 17, 2009 1:39 PM:
" .....and which Republican will lead us back to the safety and and prosperity that we enjoyed under Bush? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 17, 2009 1:29 PM:
" past business owners did not face a capitalist destroying president as they do now. in barry's effort to hurt business and redistribute wealth, the backbone of the democrap party will suffer the most. this is known and cause and effect. now barry is saying that his "stimulous" bill was not meant to stimulate the economy but rather curb the downward trend. where are his 3.2 million job projections now that unemployment is 10% in 15 states. oh yeah, they misread the economy after using the "crisis" to pass the 40 year wish list bills of the democraps. if you liberal business owners defending barry ran your enterprises like he runs the government, you would all be bankrupt and like it or not, corporate america is waking up to the the fact that obamanomics are a disaster. welcome to the "morning after", obamanuts as the majority now disapprove of his schemes. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 17, 2009 1:04 PM:
" lilmurm wrote on Jul 17, 2009 12:39 PM:it's obvious that these posters do not understand how businesses operate
I was self employed for over forty years, made a good profit in all my business ventures. I understand profit and loss. It's hard to argue with my liberal success, paid my share of taxes contributed to the economy and still made a profit.
May not have been what some republican would have wanted, but it kept my family fed and still does for that matter.
I also understand nebulous comments when I read them.
Speaking of business, I would like to buy you for what you and opinions are worth, and sell you and your opinions for what you think you and your opinions are worth. That would produce the biggest profit margin I ever had. "
I was self employed for over forty years, made a good profit in all my business ventures. I understand profit and loss. It's hard to argue with my liberal success, paid my share of taxes contributed to the economy and still made a profit.
May not have been what some republican would have wanted, but it kept my family fed and still does for that matter.
I also understand nebulous comments when I read them.
Speaking of business, I would like to buy you for what you and opinions are worth, and sell you and your opinions for what you think you and your opinions are worth. That would produce the biggest profit margin I ever had. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 17, 2009 1:02 PM:
" Chung Lee find solution for Mikel. How about not fire them and keep them employed building you a bunker. So they have job and Mikel will have nice bunker to hunker down for the next 7 years. "
kURT wrote on Jul 17, 2009 12:59 PM:
" Easy mikel - you aren't the only one that busts his chops. Those at the top have stolen & swindled ever since I can remember. All must pay their fair share. I liked what Malcolm Forbes said when running for president years ago. He wanted a 16% flat tax for all. No loopholes. If you made 50K, then 16%. If you made 200,000K 16%. Sounded reasonable to me. Malcom Forbes wasn't in the presidential race very long though. "
mikel wrote on Jul 17, 2009 12:52 PM:
" you are missing the point that i am trying to make you fools. you won't hurt the man making $373,000+. every, and i mean every business, passes on increases to the consumer. whether it is thru increasing prices on merchandise or a combination of that and a reduction in work force. this is nothing new and has been done like this for centuries. chung lee, it doesn't matter if you have an mba or not, are you trying to tell me that no business's reduce work force to compensate for increased expense's?
as for the selling more comments...whose buying right now? the last thing that a small business owner wants to do is reduce workers but when you are on the line decisions must be made. by the way, my employees get healthcare and retirement plans paid for by me not uncle obamass.
bottom line is that i have worked my a$$ of for the last 10-12 years to get where i am without the assistance of government loans or anything like that and, call me what you want, but i am tired of giving handouts to able bodied people because they would rather sit at home and watch tv all day while smoking some weed, drinking some beer and screwing so they can have more kids and get more of our tax dollars! "
as for the selling more comments...whose buying right now? the last thing that a small business owner wants to do is reduce workers but when you are on the line decisions must be made. by the way, my employees get healthcare and retirement plans paid for by me not uncle obamass.
bottom line is that i have worked my a$$ of for the last 10-12 years to get where i am without the assistance of government loans or anything like that and, call me what you want, but i am tired of giving handouts to able bodied people because they would rather sit at home and watch tv all day while smoking some weed, drinking some beer and screwing so they can have more kids and get more of our tax dollars! "
kURT wrote on Jul 17, 2009 12:45 PM:
" Okay lilmurm check ewg.org. Pick out a name you know. If you know them then you probably know how they vote. Look at what OUR $$ pay these people. See I grew up in that zone. This greed makes me sick - our taxes pay it. Flat out wrong! "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 17, 2009 12:39 PM:
" Chung Lee think that people who go to Pastor Ron Church must probably be on terror watch list. He say lots of crazy talk. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 17, 2009 12:39 PM:
" it's obvious that these posters do not understand how businesses operate according the the previous ignorant statement. MOST businesess downsize during a recession and of course, the remaining employees have to pick up the slack. the liberals just cannot stand to admit that barry's economic policies are counter productive to growth and business owners will react accordingly. barry wants us to spend but americans are finally getting smart about excessive consumption, debt and lack of savings. there are ways that business owners and individuals can fight barry's destruction and you're just beginning to see the process. americans will not allow this socialist to win. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 17, 2009 12:10 PM:
" Chung Lee wrote on Jul 17, 2009 11:31 AM:Is Chung Lee the only one who thinks Mikel is full of BS?
His comments are nebulous and are contradictory.
If you read the "logic" it does not compute.
If you read what he says, it would appear that
he employs one or two people out kindness, this from a guy that is concerned about a tax increase for people that make over $373,000.
I have tears in my eyes as big as horse turds. "
His comments are nebulous and are contradictory.
If you read the "logic" it does not compute.
If you read what he says, it would appear that
he employs one or two people out kindness, this from a guy that is concerned about a tax increase for people that make over $373,000.
I have tears in my eyes as big as horse turds. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 17, 2009 11:55 AM:
" which topic, kURT? there are several issues addressed under this website. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 17, 2009 11:31 AM:
" Mikel, "Raising taxes makes you lose my profit margin"? Chung Lee thinks you mean reduces your profit margin. Chung Lee thinks that you could offset any losses through continuous improvements such as improvements in your processes, material cost reductions, and etc. Wouldn't an increase in sales also net you the same amount of income? Chung Lee have MBA and Chung Lee would think that a "business owner" who cared about and is involved in their business would seek ways to improve their business instead of blogging all day. Is Chung Lee supposed to believe that an increase in personal taxes would require the immediate termination of business employees? Wouldn't the reduction of the 2 employees reduce the amount of production? If, not, then the business is not being managed properly. Is Chung Lee the only one who thinks Mikel is full of BS? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 17, 2009 11:28 AM:
" justthefacts questions mikel's practice of laying off employees when hit with oppressive taxation. it's called downsizing and all businesses do it to maximize profits while the remaining employees will pick up the slack and be grateful they still have a job in this economy. it happens everyday in large and small businesses alike. i can just hear the contempt and jealousy in some of these postings regarding success but the old saying still goes that no poor man ever hired anyone. mikel, you are a great american who provides what sounds like a decent living to 10 legal citizens. in addition to massive taxes, barry will force all employers to cover their workers with health insurance or face an 8% penalty equal to the employees' wages. for an owner with financial difficulties or low wage employees, it may be cheaper to pay the penalty instead of insurance. individuals will also be hit with a $1000 fine if they refuse to buy insurance, provided barry and the democraps get their way. who ever thought in america that the government would dictate every facet of your health and since they're so efficient in running all their programs (haha), rest easy. barry was asked why young healthy people would be required to carry insurance, he stated that they must pay premiums into the system to cover those with high healthcare costs. kinda sounds like another democrap socialist program called social security. "
duhast wrote on Jul 17, 2009 11:27 AM:
" Wow, out of the mouth of Christian Reconstructionists and Dominionists...
Not OK to replace constitution with Islam. OK to replace with christian theocracy. OK, got it. "
Not OK to replace constitution with Islam. OK to replace with christian theocracy. OK, got it. "
Pastor Ron wrote on Jul 17, 2009 11:17 AM:
" Chicago is a great city centrally located so I have been to a number of conferences including The Christian Crusade to Take Back Jerusalem, Guns N' Jesus International, and The American Constituionalist Abortion Clinic Abololistionist. However, I believe any organization that is not Christian in nature should be closely watched or their members locked up. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 17, 2009 11:00 AM:
" duhast, you need immediate surgery for that bleeding heart of yours. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 17, 2009 10:58 AM:
" to chung lee, president bush was beginning to listen to the american people by building the border fence, stepping up border security and conducting workplace raids-admittedly, he had a long way to go, however. but obama was campaigning by saying the fence was not necessary and that all american kids should learn spanish just to pander to the hispanics for votes. he made his intentions very clear that he would undo any progress president bush made against illegal immigration and he was only in office a few weeks before he made good on those promises. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 17, 2009 10:53 AM:
" breaking news today. a radical sunni organization called hizb-ut-tahrir is holding a conference in chicago called "fall of capitalism and rise of islam". this group supposedly does not resort to violence in order to recruit young people but is has been banned in several arab and asian countries because the followers sometime spin off into violent groups. in the west, they prefer to indoctrinate youth 9-18 years old and the goal is the formation of an islamic empire called khilafah and it's so troublesome that even arab leaders in the US are warning against their movement. although they denounce the existence of israel and are extremely radical, they are not on the state dept's list of terror groups and therefore may operate freely in this country. they have direct ties to the 9/11 mastermind. they have operated in the shadows for years but are now coming out into the open. anyone want to venture a guess why now and the first conference is in chicago. "
duhast wrote on Jul 17, 2009 10:28 AM:
" Mikel,
Why don't you take a pay cut and save the 1-2 people from losing their jobs? Or is that beyond comprehension? Mikel wants to lay off the workers and get to keep that trip to Hawaii (to find lost birth certificate). "
Why don't you take a pay cut and save the 1-2 people from losing their jobs? Or is that beyond comprehension? Mikel wants to lay off the workers and get to keep that trip to Hawaii (to find lost birth certificate). "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 17, 2009 10:23 AM:
" mikel if you lay off 1 or 2 people due to an increase in marginal tax rates then you are foolish.
Don't you employ the number of people you need based upon the amount of work you have for them and the incremental margin they produce? That would be Econ 101.
And as for being self-made...no one is truly self made...I am SURE that there are things that the government (at all levels) has been involved in that YOU and your business has benefited from. How about our state and federal highway system for one glaring example, try running a trucking firm for example without the roads to drive them on! TAXES paid for those roads, would you prefer nothing but toll roads? Agriculture subsidies are another big one. Give us a break! Your hatred for all things Obama has clouded your thinking. "
Don't you employ the number of people you need based upon the amount of work you have for them and the incremental margin they produce? That would be Econ 101.
And as for being self-made...no one is truly self made...I am SURE that there are things that the government (at all levels) has been involved in that YOU and your business has benefited from. How about our state and federal highway system for one glaring example, try running a trucking firm for example without the roads to drive them on! TAXES paid for those roads, would you prefer nothing but toll roads? Agriculture subsidies are another big one. Give us a break! Your hatred for all things Obama has clouded your thinking. "
mikel wrote on Jul 17, 2009 9:58 AM:
" what a dufus obamass is. reading todays usa today the headlines are "taxes on rich may soar". continuing "three tax increase's proposed by obamass and house dems could produce the highest tax rates in a quarter century". after reading thru the article in states that this will affect about 500,000 families earning more than $1 million. however, this will also affect people earning at least $373,000 and up. wow, he thinks this is a good time to raise taxes.
for those of you that don't understand the thinking of self made successful people here it is. I currently employ ten people at my business and they all make approximately $18 per hour. currently, i have a profit/loss margin that i use as a guideline. when my taxes get raised i lose my profit margin. so, to make sure that doesn't happen 1 or 2 people will get laid off. so when you tax the rich who really loses? not us but our employees and the whole governmental system because it will now have to pay unemployment benefits and others. people just don't understand that the rich already contribute more to this society than they realize. "
for those of you that don't understand the thinking of self made successful people here it is. I currently employ ten people at my business and they all make approximately $18 per hour. currently, i have a profit/loss margin that i use as a guideline. when my taxes get raised i lose my profit margin. so, to make sure that doesn't happen 1 or 2 people will get laid off. so when you tax the rich who really loses? not us but our employees and the whole governmental system because it will now have to pay unemployment benefits and others. people just don't understand that the rich already contribute more to this society than they realize. "
duhast wrote on Jul 17, 2009 8:49 AM:
" OK guys. How many of you have spent any amount of time in California? First of all EVERYBODY is either Mexican or of Hispanic descent. It would be like you going to the mall and picking out every illegal white person. It’s a logistical impossibility.
Second, I spent several weeks at a recycling center in L.A. There were people wearing garbage bags and sorting people’s garbage by hand. LET THEM! I certainly wouldn’t want to do that job. I had a very nice Californian Mexican American over for dinner last night. He told stories of going with his mother into the 110 degree fields to pick tomatoes. Nobody else out there wanted to do it. These people just want to feed their children. Crack down on the corporations, not the people. It’s very easy to sit in rural Ohio and call faceless people monsters. It’s a whole different world on the West coast.
Thirdly, they would rather die than go to the hospital and face being deported. Two of our guys at work were doing a startup at a junk yard last year. A Mexican guy got several fingers cut off in a metal shear right in front of them. When they offered to call 911, he waved them off, and wrapped his hand in duct tape and went back to work. The problems with the “free medical care” are mostly with the hospitals towards the border. Anyway, what kind of heartless person would turn away a sick child from a hospital? “Sorry, you are illegal, crawl into a gutter and die quietly please”. "
Second, I spent several weeks at a recycling center in L.A. There were people wearing garbage bags and sorting people’s garbage by hand. LET THEM! I certainly wouldn’t want to do that job. I had a very nice Californian Mexican American over for dinner last night. He told stories of going with his mother into the 110 degree fields to pick tomatoes. Nobody else out there wanted to do it. These people just want to feed their children. Crack down on the corporations, not the people. It’s very easy to sit in rural Ohio and call faceless people monsters. It’s a whole different world on the West coast.
Thirdly, they would rather die than go to the hospital and face being deported. Two of our guys at work were doing a startup at a junk yard last year. A Mexican guy got several fingers cut off in a metal shear right in front of them. When they offered to call 911, he waved them off, and wrapped his hand in duct tape and went back to work. The problems with the “free medical care” are mostly with the hospitals towards the border. Anyway, what kind of heartless person would turn away a sick child from a hospital? “Sorry, you are illegal, crawl into a gutter and die quietly please”. "
6079 Smith W wrote on Jul 17, 2009 7:19 AM:
" justthefacts wrote on Jul 16, 2009 2:48 PM:
‘Save your ire for the corporations that draw them her to work at low wages so they don't have to pay American's a living wage and the corporations like nearby Tenneco Automotive that throw your neighbor out of work and move the production to Mexico and their slave level wages.’
And exactly what successful business do you own and operate in which you pay your large employee base an above average wage in addition to providing them with an excessively rich health and welfare benefit package? "
‘Save your ire for the corporations that draw them her to work at low wages so they don't have to pay American's a living wage and the corporations like nearby Tenneco Automotive that throw your neighbor out of work and move the production to Mexico and their slave level wages.’
And exactly what successful business do you own and operate in which you pay your large employee base an above average wage in addition to providing them with an excessively rich health and welfare benefit package? "
6079 Smith W wrote on Jul 17, 2009 7:07 AM:
" Get to know the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).
Here’s what those ‘wingnuts’ in Congress are writing about the current federal budget deficit:
‘Under current law, the federal budget is on an unsustainable path, because federal debt will continue to grow much faster than the economy over the long run.
Although great uncertainty surrounds long-term fiscal projections, rising costs for health care and the aging of the population will cause federal spending to increase rapidly under any plausible scenario for current law.
Unless revenues increase just as rapidly, the rise in spending will produce growing budget deficits.
Large budget deficits would reduce national saving, leading to more borrowing from abroad and less domestic investment, which in turn would depress economic growth in the United States. Over time, accumulating debt would cause substantial harm to the economy.’
See: http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=328
Huh. Kinda reads like what I and others have been writing about doesn’t it?
Yea, trust in Obama little sheeple, he can suspend the laws of economics and fiscal responsibility - can’t he?
Remember: No country in the history of the world has spent its way to prosperity. "
Here’s what those ‘wingnuts’ in Congress are writing about the current federal budget deficit:
‘Under current law, the federal budget is on an unsustainable path, because federal debt will continue to grow much faster than the economy over the long run.
Although great uncertainty surrounds long-term fiscal projections, rising costs for health care and the aging of the population will cause federal spending to increase rapidly under any plausible scenario for current law.
Unless revenues increase just as rapidly, the rise in spending will produce growing budget deficits.
Large budget deficits would reduce national saving, leading to more borrowing from abroad and less domestic investment, which in turn would depress economic growth in the United States. Over time, accumulating debt would cause substantial harm to the economy.’
See: http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=328
Huh. Kinda reads like what I and others have been writing about doesn’t it?
Yea, trust in Obama little sheeple, he can suspend the laws of economics and fiscal responsibility - can’t he?
Remember: No country in the history of the world has spent its way to prosperity. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 17, 2009 12:47 AM:
" So President Obama was giving a campaign speech in Texas and a girl in Minnesota is killed in an accident by an illegal alien so Obama should apologize to her family and every victims family? Just curious...... but why should Obama apologize for something that happened during Bush's watch? Chung Lee don't quite follow the logic. If anybody should be apologizing.......Chung Lee thinks Bush should be making the great apologizing tour. Bush can apologize to the 3000 families that lost a family member in 911 during his watch and when he gets done with that he can start apologizing to the 4,296 families that lost servicemen in the illegal war in Iraq.
Hard to believe that the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens came to the US after January 20, 2009. Seems like the Bush administrtation made a mess of about everything. Lil'worm claims to blame both parties for the immigrant problem but Lil'worm seems to be blaming "liberals" and "obama" with no mention of the previous administration. Chung Lee wonder what exactly the Republicans did to solve the problem during the past 8 years? "
Hard to believe that the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens came to the US after January 20, 2009. Seems like the Bush administrtation made a mess of about everything. Lil'worm claims to blame both parties for the immigrant problem but Lil'worm seems to be blaming "liberals" and "obama" with no mention of the previous administration. Chung Lee wonder what exactly the Republicans did to solve the problem during the past 8 years? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 17, 2009 12:23 AM:
" i have an approach that will solve several problems at once but it's not popular. first of all, deport all illegals then allow americans to fill those positions and employers will be forced to raise wages accordingly. if there are jobs "that americans won't do", then force welfare recipients to accept them or lose the government benefits. remember the chain gangs? if all else fails, use criminals to pick vegetables. illegal immigration, low wages, american unemployment, welfare and cushy lifestyles for jailbirds - all gone. no one can blame only corporations since it's the corrupt polititians who allow the open borders, refuse to deport them and don't heavily fine the employers yet the liberals keep electing amnesty advocates. the only reason the ititiative failed in 2007 was that the voters bombarded congress with calls, faxes and emails. obama talks about "comprehensive" immigration reform but they're really introducing nothing more than amnesty since many laws are already on the books to fight the invasion but they refuse to implement them. there is no good reason to legalize these aliens other than securing elections and it will do nothing but harm americans. amnesty anytime is wrong but to legalize them now during the worst recession in decades to me is treasonous. all they're doing is importing more poverty due to lack of education which will equate to low paying jobs and with high percentages of out of wedlock births, we will have millions of new welfare recipients. 12-20 illegals will become citizens then they can sponsor spouses, parents, adult children, aunts, uncles and cousins so it's feasible to be looking at close to 50 million within a short time. funny how we can protect every border in the world except our own. on the very day that barry was campaigning in texas last year stating that we don't need a border fence, a little girl was killed by an illegal in a car accident in minnesota. i wish he had to look every victims' family in the eye and explain why the US doesn't need a fence and why the criminals are still here and not deported per the law. "
kath2860 wrote on Jul 16, 2009 10:11 PM:
" Last summer my nephew tried to get a job as a farm laborer in Fremont and was told that Americans don't work as hard as the Mexicans and they laughed him out of the place. If the employers would not hire illegals then they'd have no reason to be here. Isn't there any way the problem can be addressed from THAT angle? Penalize the employers who hire illegals; there ARE a lot of hard-working Americans who would gladly do the jobs illegal aliens are doing, AND you'd be able to understand them when they talk! "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 16, 2009 10:02 PM:
" lilmurm- Both Mexican and American workers are victims of the incredible power wielded by multinational corporations. They use their $$ to influence politicians of both sides of the aisle and of both nations. They do this purely in the name of profits and to heck with the workers of both nations.
Right wingers always say "let the market decide"...well in this case it is. Mexicans can choose to stay home in poverty and destitution or risk a trip to el norte to make at least something to send back home. YOU WOULD DO THE SAME THING, if you are the proud capitalist you claim to be. The illegals didn't create the economic landscape we live in today, and neither did the American Tenneco workers. The governments of the two countries, with the financial backing of multinational corporations and their lobbies are the ones who make the rules of the game.
We are 15 years into NAFTA and if anything this has gotten worse...even though all kinds of jobs once held by Americans have been shipped to Mexico, the flood of illegals continues. This is because it is a "twofer" in the corporations insatiable lust for profits above all else. "
Right wingers always say "let the market decide"...well in this case it is. Mexicans can choose to stay home in poverty and destitution or risk a trip to el norte to make at least something to send back home. YOU WOULD DO THE SAME THING, if you are the proud capitalist you claim to be. The illegals didn't create the economic landscape we live in today, and neither did the American Tenneco workers. The governments of the two countries, with the financial backing of multinational corporations and their lobbies are the ones who make the rules of the game.
We are 15 years into NAFTA and if anything this has gotten worse...even though all kinds of jobs once held by Americans have been shipped to Mexico, the flood of illegals continues. This is because it is a "twofer" in the corporations insatiable lust for profits above all else. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 16, 2009 6:06 PM:
" do you lefties not get the solution to the illegal immigration problem? if BOTH political parties upheld the law and deported these parasites, then employers would be forced to pay a living wage to hire americans. you know, it's the politicians that take an oath to uphold the constitution, not the chamber of commerce or businesses. make excuses all you want but both parties are at fault here and at least i am very vocal against pres bush and john mccain's amnesty policy. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 16, 2009 5:56 PM:
" chung lee, unlike those of you who support barry no matter what he does, i wrote letters to pres. bush and mccain to express my outrage at their approach to illegal immigration. that is why when it came time to vote, i had to hold my nose but any american would have been better than obama so we conservatives did what we had to do. both parties need to defend the constitution and get back to doing what is in the best interest of AMERICANS. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 16, 2009 5:52 PM:
" excuse me? illegals are the "victims" of corporate greed? they sneak into the US illegally, take jobs from americans, live off the taxpayers while stealing their social security numbers? if they're doing the jobs that americans won't do, why is it that every time a meat packing plant or construction site was raided, they were staffed by americans the next day? we educate their kids at approximately $10k per head plus pay to incarcerate their gangs/criminals.i know it's difficult for lefties, but multiply $10k times millions and see what the costs are to us. in 1986, pres reagan was pressured into granting amnesty to 3 million illegals after the congress promised secured borders. it's 23 years later and we don't have secured borders but barry now wants citizenship for 12-20 illegals, ignoring the security risks in the process. i believe that pres. IKE deported 1 million illegals yearly during his administration with 1/10th the manpower of today's border patrol. billions of people on this earth would love to live in the US so why reward the border jumpers who don't respect our sovereignty and laws. number one answer is VOTES. i worked in a foreign country in the late 1990s and at the time, the average wage was 50 cents per hour but the government won't allow those people in the country through legal channels but jump the border and you're in like flynn. barry likes to say we're a nation of laws and that may be correct but he chooses not to enforce them and in essence, does not look out for the well being of american citizens first and foremost which is the constitutional duty of any president. american schools now have bi-lingual teachers educating the mexican kids so whatever happened to the system expecting them to assimilate and become part of our american culture. if they're so loyal to their own customs and culture, let's help them out and press 1 to deport. "
santownresident wrote on Jul 16, 2009 5:43 PM:
" Ok quite possibly I am wrong in regards to my last comment. Could be the case. Im not against republicans, and I don't believe that democrats are the cure-all. I am liberal on some views and conservative on others. I don't believe in abortion, but as a heterosexual I'm not a homophobe. I respect all views, but I don't respect those that don't. "
I wrote on Jul 16, 2009 4:42 PM:
" Santownresident, if the democrats are so against corporate greed, and the hiring of illegal aliens helps contribute to that greed, why is our democrat president against finding and deporting them? Could it be that they will be eligible voters very soon? "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 16, 2009 4:33 PM:
" Hey Goofus you attack wrong guy. Obviously you no read Sun Tzu Art of War. Chung Lee for universal healthcare. Chung Lee against healthcare to illegals. Unless you are illegal......Chung Lee would like see Goofus have heathcare. In case you not notice, it is the Republicans voting and speaking out against healthcare for the uninsured. "
goofus wrote on Jul 16, 2009 4:26 PM:
" I hate to be redundat,But where is b husseins birth certificate and the delivering doctor's statement "
goofus wrote on Jul 16, 2009 4:18 PM:
" re chung lee are you prepared to open your check book to pay for us working stiffs with no health care to be covered? I have no health care and work for a small corporation. Please open that liberal checkbook. I'm waiting. "
mikel wrote on Jul 16, 2009 4:05 PM:
" re santownresident: you are as full of mexican jumping beans as anyone. let's see..some of the biggest campaign contributors for democrats for the 2008 elections were the uaw, gm, ford, ge, aig and the list could go on. so, don't say that corporations back republicans. after all one of the only reasons obamass allowed the use of taxpayer dollars in the auto industry was to repay them for helping him get elected.
as far as who is at fault for the illegals being here is you, me, our neighbors etc. almost all of the people in america has decided that we will not do the kind of labor migrants will. maybe this is a wakeup call for all of us. why should joe blow be getting unemployment when he can go down the street and take the job of a migrant worker. with unemployment where it is today there should not be migrant workers around here. and i will be the first to admit that i would not want to do that kind of work but if my only choices were to either do it or starve i guess i would have to. "
as far as who is at fault for the illegals being here is you, me, our neighbors etc. almost all of the people in america has decided that we will not do the kind of labor migrants will. maybe this is a wakeup call for all of us. why should joe blow be getting unemployment when he can go down the street and take the job of a migrant worker. with unemployment where it is today there should not be migrant workers around here. and i will be the first to admit that i would not want to do that kind of work but if my only choices were to either do it or starve i guess i would have to. "
santownresident wrote on Jul 16, 2009 3:32 PM:
" Thankyou. It's not our government that backs illegal's. It is our corporations that back illegals (corporte greed). Who do the corporations back in an election?? REPUBLICANS "
King of Erie-Lorain County wrote on Jul 16, 2009 2:55 PM:
" We can take a page out of the great Ronald Reagan's book when it comes to dealing harshly with illegal aliens. Review the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA). Zero tolerance for the illegals (except for 2.7 million of them and their immediate families who were granted what amounts to amnesty).
But that's okay, because in 1986 (when King Ronnie signed the bill), unemployment was VERY low, so we needed illegals to do the dirty work. Just look at this data...1986 was indeed a great year: http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet. "
But that's okay, because in 1986 (when King Ronnie signed the bill), unemployment was VERY low, so we needed illegals to do the dirty work. Just look at this data...1986 was indeed a great year: http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet. "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 16, 2009 2:48 PM:
" lilmurm- It is the corporations and their lobbies (US chamber of commerce for one) that are against meaningful immigration reform. They want the illegals to stay here in the shadows so that they can be exploited for low wages.
Save your ire for the corporations that draw them her to work at low wages so they don't have to pay American's a living wage and the corporations like nearby Tenneco Automotive that throw your neighbor out of work and move the production to Mexico and their slave level wages.
The illegals are victims of corporate greed and government policies (Mexico and USA)...just like the former Tenneco workers are. WAKE UP, lilmurm. You are seriously blind to the CAUSE of this problem. Let me spell it out for you: CORPORATE GREED and their powerful influence on governments around the world. "bought and paid for" you might say. "
Save your ire for the corporations that draw them her to work at low wages so they don't have to pay American's a living wage and the corporations like nearby Tenneco Automotive that throw your neighbor out of work and move the production to Mexico and their slave level wages.
The illegals are victims of corporate greed and government policies (Mexico and USA)...just like the former Tenneco workers are. WAKE UP, lilmurm. You are seriously blind to the CAUSE of this problem. Let me spell it out for you: CORPORATE GREED and their powerful influence on governments around the world. "bought and paid for" you might say. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 16, 2009 2:33 PM:
" Chung Lee provide link to John McCain guy.
http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/video-mccain-americans-wont-pick-lettuce-for-50hr/
Sounds like McCain doesn't have high opinion of American labor. Chung Lee think McCain out of touch. Who believes that Americans wouldn't work for $2000 for a 40 hour week. Chung Lee pretty sure John McCain was looking out for small businesses wanting to hire people for $8 and hour with no benefits. "
http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/video-mccain-americans-wont-pick-lettuce-for-50hr/
Sounds like McCain doesn't have high opinion of American labor. Chung Lee think McCain out of touch. Who believes that Americans wouldn't work for $2000 for a 40 hour week. Chung Lee pretty sure John McCain was looking out for small businesses wanting to hire people for $8 and hour with no benefits. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 16, 2009 2:27 PM:
" Chung Lee curious.......what did the Bush administration do for 8 years more specifically from 2001-2006 when Bush was President and Congress was controlled by the Republicans? Chung Lee seems to remember a guy named John McCain who was against enforcement because he said their labor was important and that Americans wouldn't harvest lettuce for $50. Seems to me that a lot of business owners want to keep the cost of labor low so they hire illegals.
Chung Lee would like to see citations to all of the fabulous claims that Lilmurm is making about the Obama stance on immigration. Chung Lee has feeling that many of the things attributed to Obama happened more than 7 months ago. So Lilmurm we know your opinion but let's see the facts (from reputable news sources). "
Chung Lee would like to see citations to all of the fabulous claims that Lilmurm is making about the Obama stance on immigration. Chung Lee has feeling that many of the things attributed to Obama happened more than 7 months ago. So Lilmurm we know your opinion but let's see the facts (from reputable news sources). "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 16, 2009 1:54 PM:
" our corrupt government refuses to deport many illegal aliens at the present time so why would they enforce the law once barry has socialized healthcare. in many "sanctuary cities", officers cannot even ask for proof of citizenship and how many times have we seen repeat DUI offenders kill innocent people or released illegal criminals rape and kill instead of being deported? barry has all but put a halt to the workplace raids and the last few they did, the illegals were not deported but left to roam the country free in return for testimony against the employers. see, the hispanics marched and demanded that barry stop the raids and deportations and voila!! done. he also has gutted a program that helped to train local law enforcement to apply the law that the feds refuse to. just think, barry wants his socialized healthcare in force before he grants citizenship to 12-20 million illegals plus the relatives they can sponsor so they will be covered with our tax dollars. if that didn't happen, then his illegal aunt living in boston on government assistance might be deported. even if you're all for illegal immigration, what about the video of the high ranking terrorist that explained that a nuclear device the size of a small box could be smuggled into the US through mexico, using the same route as the illegals? amazing that the lefties don't have a problem with our open borders. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 16, 2009 1:01 PM:
" No Mikel.......Chung Lee no move. Chung Lee same place as before but instead of just stating problems.....Chung Lee also look for solution. When Chung Lee hungry. Chung Lee no complain and just order #1 Special with fortune cookie. "
mikel wrote on Jul 16, 2009 12:57 PM:
" chung lee..that is the most sensible thing you have said in this whole blog. maybe, just maybe, you are starting to lean towards the middle! "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 16, 2009 12:20 PM:
" Chung Lee will help you anti-health folks out here. If the government goes to a mandatory insurance system and everybody that is legal has a card......wouldn't it pretty easy to figure out who the illegals are? If they seek medical treatment and don't have card then treat them/stabilize them and return them to country of origin. The fact that if citizenship is required for the card, then the illegals will have no choice but to go back home. To Chung Lee this system would kill two birds with one stone. "
mikel wrote on Jul 16, 2009 12:10 PM:
" lilmurm..thats a funny question about making illegals buy health insurance. you know darn well that they will continue to mooch off of our generosity. they use our health care facilities for free now so why would they pay for it. one only needs to look at california and see how devastating it is financially when the state has to pay for millions for health care for illegals. "
santownresident wrote on Jul 16, 2009 11:47 AM:
" I would think that a christian who disagrees with Obama would pray that God works through him to better our country. True christians don't chastise, ridicule, or demean folks. That kind of talk is the work of satan. For someone who calls himself a pastor that has negative views of people like a satan, I QUESTION YOU. What church or religion are you a product of??? A christian that talks about his brother.....please give everybody their money back. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 16, 2009 11:39 AM:
" since barry's socialized healthcare plan will require all law abiding american citizens to purchase insurance, will he force the illegal aliens to as well or will they continue to scam the taxpayers out of billions of dollars each year? "
mikel wrote on Jul 16, 2009 11:35 AM:
" re: justthefacts..the articles that i read state "that families making more than...". once again you lefties are looking down the tunnel. look outside the tunnel and see the word "families". it did not specify individuals or couples.
also, just read in the left wing usa today newspaper that there are two generals that have joined the lawsuit against our dictator obamass. very interesting.. "
also, just read in the left wing usa today newspaper that there are two generals that have joined the lawsuit against our dictator obamass. very interesting.. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 16, 2009 11:32 AM:
" it has recently been reported than a nurse in north carolina has sued over a portion of the "stimulous" bill that violates HIPPA and patient privacy laws. with barry's socialized healthcare, everyone's private medical records will be part of a government data base. i find this rather odd since the driving force behind ROE v Wade, you know the bill that allowed babies to be murdered, was a "woman's right to privacy" yet the government will know everything about your medical history. "
Pastor Ron wrote on Jul 16, 2009 11:25 AM:
" I know that many of you believers out there have been missing hearing me preach the word of God here on the blogs because I have been busy doing works for the Lord Jesus. I am very worried that Obama will be able to trick good Christian Americans into accepting his version of healthcare.
We cannot allow ourselves to be tricked by this great Satan. The foreign Satan is trying to pretend like he is Jesus by healing the sick (both rich and poor). Though Jesus performed miracles and cured the the sick among the rich and the poor he would not heal those who were non-believers. The only true way to health is through prayer and the one true savior- Jesus Christ! "
We cannot allow ourselves to be tricked by this great Satan. The foreign Satan is trying to pretend like he is Jesus by healing the sick (both rich and poor). Though Jesus performed miracles and cured the the sick among the rich and the poor he would not heal those who were non-believers. The only true way to health is through prayer and the one true savior- Jesus Christ! "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 16, 2009 11:14 AM:
" Chung Lee think it is pretty funny all this talk about "rationing" is coming from the extreme right who have clearly "rationed" the amount of coherent thought and ideas through their "news" sources.
It is very clear to Chung Lee that these crazies are trying to scare people. Chung Lee pretty sure that health care is already be "rationed" and that about 50 million already don't receive "rations". Chung Lee have a hard time believing that the "free market" will not step up and provide health care to those who want to have care above and beyond what is available and are willing to pay for it as they already do. "
It is very clear to Chung Lee that these crazies are trying to scare people. Chung Lee pretty sure that health care is already be "rationed" and that about 50 million already don't receive "rations". Chung Lee have a hard time believing that the "free market" will not step up and provide health care to those who want to have care above and beyond what is available and are willing to pay for it as they already do. "
Massengill Winston Smith wrote on Jul 16, 2009 11:06 AM:
" Those stupid elitist liberals spend entirely too much time presenting facts and not going with their guts. If they only had an ounce of the decision making ability of the Great George Bush we would not be in the economic crisis that we are in that was caused by the election of the Great Pretendor Barry the Evil Muslim. It is time for us to grab our guns and our bibles and make a stand against the unenlightened majority. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 16, 2009 11:05 AM:
" the following article is the last few paragraphs of a CBS blog after barry's interview. anyone think this sounds like rationing with government determining who gets what care. will his family or congress be under this plan? i think not.
The president acknowledged that in order to create the efficiencies in health care he is calling for, some more experimental treatments may not be eligible for insurance coverage.
"We're going to have to make some difficult decisions as a society about that," he said. He added, however, that "right now, we're just wasting so much (money), we don't even have to wrestle with those more difficult ethical questions."
The main focus now, Mr. Obama said, should be creating cost efficiencies in simple ways like replacing prescriptions for brand name drugs with prescriptions for generic medications.
"What we know is that right now there's a whole lot of care that's not improving health," he said. "Those are the situations that we should immediately be focused on."
LaPook pointed out there are many examples of treatments that could come into question under the president's plan. For instance, 30 percent of angioplasties -- the technique of opening up a clogged artery-- are unnecessary.
For those cases, a reimbursement scheme must be developed, Mr. Obama said, so "at the very least, you're not taking money out of physician's pocket for making the better choice."
There will be other tough decisions for the nation to grapple with, the president said, such as improving end-of-life care.
"My hope is as a culture and a society we're going to be able to have an in-depth discussion," Mr. Obama said, so people can agree to "control this end of life process in a dignified way that’s good for (one's) family."
Tags: Barack Obama , taxes , Democrats , House
Topics: Health Care "
The president acknowledged that in order to create the efficiencies in health care he is calling for, some more experimental treatments may not be eligible for insurance coverage.
"We're going to have to make some difficult decisions as a society about that," he said. He added, however, that "right now, we're just wasting so much (money), we don't even have to wrestle with those more difficult ethical questions."
The main focus now, Mr. Obama said, should be creating cost efficiencies in simple ways like replacing prescriptions for brand name drugs with prescriptions for generic medications.
"What we know is that right now there's a whole lot of care that's not improving health," he said. "Those are the situations that we should immediately be focused on."
LaPook pointed out there are many examples of treatments that could come into question under the president's plan. For instance, 30 percent of angioplasties -- the technique of opening up a clogged artery-- are unnecessary.
For those cases, a reimbursement scheme must be developed, Mr. Obama said, so "at the very least, you're not taking money out of physician's pocket for making the better choice."
There will be other tough decisions for the nation to grapple with, the president said, such as improving end-of-life care.
"My hope is as a culture and a society we're going to be able to have an in-depth discussion," Mr. Obama said, so people can agree to "control this end of life process in a dignified way that’s good for (one's) family."
Tags: Barack Obama , taxes , Democrats , House
Topics: Health Care "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 16, 2009 10:34 AM:
" to all the critical thinkers out there in blogland, has anyone heard the background details of barry's pick for surgeon general and the organization she's connected with that is now calling the shots in his foreign policy in the mideast? she also advocates for physicians' medical training to offer more abortion procedure instruction. as you can see, barry does not appoint anyone who is what they appear to be at face value but rather radicals who will further his agenda. on a personal note. to be honest, my posting of articles critical of barry is two-fold: get the stories out that some may not hear about on CNN, NBC, MSNBC and ABC, etc. but also to force his sheeple to either defend his radical actions or denounce them. if the lefies' pure, blind adoration of barry is true, then don't be ashamed to back his socialist leanings. i've noticed no remarks concerning the facts surrounding the appontment of john holdren, carol browner, van jones, his surgeon general nominee nor the brushoff of barry by the foreign leaders he so willingly pandered to, making the US appear weak and foolish. instead of the usual name calling and whining, would someone please show the moral courage to address the issues of these troublesome appointments? almost forgot: did barry appoint duhast to the position of SR blog czar and no one told me??? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 16, 2009 10:20 AM:
" Investor's Business Daily has an article highlighting how the democrats' house bill will destroy the individuals' choice for private insurance coverage and would most likely, put them out of business. they found this on page 16 of the 1,000 plus bill and it goes on to question how many more liberties will be trampled on throughout the whole bill. their take and i agree is that congress does not have the constitutional nor moral authority to dictate that americans cannot partake of a private enterprise of their choosing. "
countrycowboy wrote on Jul 16, 2009 9:34 AM:
" Moderators have removed this comment because it
contained personal information "
jimbo wrote on Jul 16, 2009 9:26 AM:
" This is what you posted bub.....
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:32 AM:
" hi mikel, i agree that it would be very difficult to impeach barry although he's discarding the constitution while congress sits by and allows it. everyone just remember, charges can be brought against a president after he leaves office or when the power changes in congress: an example i point to is the democrats' actions daily against pres. bush. however, my main purpose is to expose his radical policies so that citizens will go to the polls in nov. 2010 with one purpose in mind and that is to remove his congressional majority then defeat him in 2012. i am noticing more MSM printing the uncomfortable facts now and the polls show the masses are finally waking up. have a good day. this particular thread has grown wearisome so i'm moving on to more productive endeavors. "
The last line is the last line, no comment in the
last line about upcoming events changing the decision.
You added the qualifier in a later post.
Old Arabic saying:"If you tell the truth, the
story never changes".
May the fleas from a thousand camels invade
your armpits............. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:32 AM:
" hi mikel, i agree that it would be very difficult to impeach barry although he's discarding the constitution while congress sits by and allows it. everyone just remember, charges can be brought against a president after he leaves office or when the power changes in congress: an example i point to is the democrats' actions daily against pres. bush. however, my main purpose is to expose his radical policies so that citizens will go to the polls in nov. 2010 with one purpose in mind and that is to remove his congressional majority then defeat him in 2012. i am noticing more MSM printing the uncomfortable facts now and the polls show the masses are finally waking up. have a good day. this particular thread has grown wearisome so i'm moving on to more productive endeavors. "
The last line is the last line, no comment in the
last line about upcoming events changing the decision.
You added the qualifier in a later post.
Old Arabic saying:"If you tell the truth, the
story never changes".
May the fleas from a thousand camels invade
your armpits............. "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 16, 2009 9:23 AM:
" mikel wrote: "what i find amazing is that obamass is once again changing the tune to fit his wishes. originally, when the talk of "surcharging", not taxing, the rich to help pay for this health care the income at which they would start at was $350,000 (yesterdays wall street journal for you lefties). today, it has been decreased to $280,000 (tonights usa today edition). obamass can't make up his mind who he wants to screw. but, beware, he will continue to lower this dollar amount as the pressure gets turned up on the financial side of this."
mikel, if you possesed passable reading comprehension skills you would have been able to discern that the $350,000 figure was for COUPLES and the $280,000 figure was for INDIVIDUALS. There was no "changing the tune" You also would have noticed that this is the US House's bill...not the President's. He would sign such a bill though I imagine.
Like usual you right wingnuts get the facts wrong once again.
lilmurm- that soldier "story" is another example of you guys completely misunderstanding and misrepresenting the facts in your comments. You either know that you are lying or you are so brainwashed by Rush and Glenn, etal that you no longer are capable of independent critical thought.
The notion that I am the same person as Winston is the funniest thing I've read in days. LOL! "
mikel, if you possesed passable reading comprehension skills you would have been able to discern that the $350,000 figure was for COUPLES and the $280,000 figure was for INDIVIDUALS. There was no "changing the tune" You also would have noticed that this is the US House's bill...not the President's. He would sign such a bill though I imagine.
Like usual you right wingnuts get the facts wrong once again.
lilmurm- that soldier "story" is another example of you guys completely misunderstanding and misrepresenting the facts in your comments. You either know that you are lying or you are so brainwashed by Rush and Glenn, etal that you no longer are capable of independent critical thought.
The notion that I am the same person as Winston is the funniest thing I've read in days. LOL! "
countrycowboy wrote on Jul 16, 2009 8:34 AM:
" One time I took these two Bosnian girls to Chung Lees restaurant and he started talking to them. I heard him say that to get anything done in America that Americans have to bring in clever foreigners and the only thing he knows Americans are good at is turning perfectly fine food into Sh!t. Lil'murm is about the same, she cuts and pastes nonsense that was once coherent into her childish direspectful name calling. Turn perfectly fine opinion into garbage. "
Captain Gutz wrote on Jul 16, 2009 7:28 AM:
" Chung Lee,
Good idea about acting like adults. Perhaps you can set an example by dropping the Jerry Lewis oriental pigdin English approach, it was lame to begin with and now it has become insipid. "
Good idea about acting like adults. Perhaps you can set an example by dropping the Jerry Lewis oriental pigdin English approach, it was lame to begin with and now it has become insipid. "
duhast wrote on Jul 16, 2009 12:08 AM:
" lilmurm wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:45 PM
i'm not posting anymore until i can produce news stories that expose barry
Seriously, quit wasting your time. When you can do your own investigative reporting, come back. If all you do is cut and paste from other news services that we all have access to, what is the point? You post things from sites that you claim are not main stream, yet they are (e.g. Fox news & Drudge report). We all have the ability to look them up and would do so if desired.
You aren’t convincing anyone. You are doing nobody a favor. You are only causing simple blogs to go on for 600+ posts. Please feel free to state your opinion about the particular topic and leave it at that. I’ve yet to see a person post on here who’s mind you have changed. You are delusional if you think that you are personally making a difference. Do you feel that the people are so stupid that you can change their political views by posting conspiracy theories on the SR forum? Get a life! "
i'm not posting anymore until i can produce news stories that expose barry
Seriously, quit wasting your time. When you can do your own investigative reporting, come back. If all you do is cut and paste from other news services that we all have access to, what is the point? You post things from sites that you claim are not main stream, yet they are (e.g. Fox news & Drudge report). We all have the ability to look them up and would do so if desired.
You aren’t convincing anyone. You are doing nobody a favor. You are only causing simple blogs to go on for 600+ posts. Please feel free to state your opinion about the particular topic and leave it at that. I’ve yet to see a person post on here who’s mind you have changed. You are delusional if you think that you are personally making a difference. Do you feel that the people are so stupid that you can change their political views by posting conspiracy theories on the SR forum? Get a life! "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 16, 2009 12:07 AM:
" Chung Lee think it is about time that bloggers act like adults. Chung Lee will really miss the insight provided when certain posters refer to President Obama as "Obozo" and "Barry". Chung Lee wonders why a certain poster wants to keep calling the POTUS "Barry"?
Chung Lee will provide insight as to why Barack wanted to go by Barry. It is very clear that as a child he was self conscious about his "foreign" sounding name and wanted to be called "Barry" which was a more "American" sounding name(Wilhelm= Willie, Gustave = Gus and etc.). Chung Lee felt same way when growing up. Chung Lee know it is hard to believe but some people make fun of Chung Lee name and call Chung Lee "Chung Yung Lee" and other names. So when Chung Lee went to school Chung Lee went by "Chuck" Lee. When Chung Lee got older Chung Lee went back to original name. Chung Lee think it is pretty childish to use childhood names to address adults. Good thing nobody has to go by the name "poopie pants"! "
Chung Lee will provide insight as to why Barack wanted to go by Barry. It is very clear that as a child he was self conscious about his "foreign" sounding name and wanted to be called "Barry" which was a more "American" sounding name(Wilhelm= Willie, Gustave = Gus and etc.). Chung Lee felt same way when growing up. Chung Lee know it is hard to believe but some people make fun of Chung Lee name and call Chung Lee "Chung Yung Lee" and other names. So when Chung Lee went to school Chung Lee went by "Chuck" Lee. When Chung Lee got older Chung Lee went back to original name. Chung Lee think it is pretty childish to use childhood names to address adults. Good thing nobody has to go by the name "poopie pants"! "
kath2860 wrote on Jul 16, 2009 12:03 AM:
" duhast, thanks for your comment about the birth certificate. My son was born in the state of Delaware and I, too, had to get one of those certified copies of his "Certificate of Birth" for some reason or other. It came from family court, had the court's "official" seal, and did not include the doctor's name or the name of the hospital. The piece of paper I received was the official legal document, just like the one that President Obama has provided. What a pathetic bunch these nitpickers are. And not being able to throw a baseball! Now THERE'S an impeachable offense! Also, I think I read a post where Obama was referred to as "illegitimate"; I believe his parents were married when he was born. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:45 PM:
" no dingbat, you can read my entire post. it was Louie who wrote the remarks about cedar point and their employees. can't you read, either?? his post was the one right after mine. the subject of this thread is impeaching barry so he is the topic of conversation. the SR readers must be the most juvenile of any given demographic-all you like to do is banter back and forth, avoid the important issues while downgrading those who do not agree with you. i'm not posting anymore until i can produce news stories that expose barry. this kind of horseplay might have been ok in gradeschool but it's not for me. "
duhast wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:34 PM:
" Lilmurm, do you mean Chung lee found something you wrote, posted snippets of it and took it out of context?? Hmmm, who does that sound like? "
kath2860 wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:21 PM:
" No, it is not a thread on "Barry." It's a thread on a guy in Norwalk who started a petition to get President BARACK OBAMA impeached. "
kath2860 wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:18 PM:
" This thread has become more entertaining than "Who's on first"!! Chung Lee, you rock! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:08 PM:
" louie wrote on May 18, 2009 10:22 PM:
" the houses are cheap who wants to live in this tourist torn dump and Cedar Point infested employee dump. "
CHUNG LEE DISPLAYS IGNORANCE ONCE AGAIN.
MY POST stated that we have cheap housing in a decaying city and what was their point since housing is cheap in 3rd world countries. why are you so obsessed with my posts, chung lee? we're not even discussing sub standard housing and cedar point. this is a thread on barry. "
" the houses are cheap who wants to live in this tourist torn dump and Cedar Point infested employee dump. "
CHUNG LEE DISPLAYS IGNORANCE ONCE AGAIN.
MY POST stated that we have cheap housing in a decaying city and what was their point since housing is cheap in 3rd world countries. why are you so obsessed with my posts, chung lee? we're not even discussing sub standard housing and cedar point. this is a thread on barry. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 15, 2009 10:50 PM:
" Chung Lee found something pretty funny. Chung Lee found another site where lilmurm not only spreads the typical hate but also speaks poorly of our city. Here is what this wacko said:
"the houses are cheap who wants to live in this tourist torn dump and Cedar Point infested employee dump. " Report Abuse. lilmurm wrote on May 18, 2009 10:03 PM: " cheap housing in a decaying city with no jobs. what's their point?"
What's wrong with the seasonal workers lilmurm? Without them....... I don't think Cedar Point could operate. Is there a problems with capitalism or is it because many of them come from countries where their skin color is different from your own? At any rate, pretty sad!
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:Nc1fstE8JuYJ:www.transportablehomes.net.au/cheap_housing.html+lilmurm&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&ie=UTF-8
Somebody better tell Mikel if geisha girl have boy parts then he boy. "
"the houses are cheap who wants to live in this tourist torn dump and Cedar Point infested employee dump. " Report Abuse. lilmurm wrote on May 18, 2009 10:03 PM: " cheap housing in a decaying city with no jobs. what's their point?"
What's wrong with the seasonal workers lilmurm? Without them....... I don't think Cedar Point could operate. Is there a problems with capitalism or is it because many of them come from countries where their skin color is different from your own? At any rate, pretty sad!
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:Nc1fstE8JuYJ:www.transportablehomes.net.au/cheap_housing.html+lilmurm&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&ie=UTF-8
Somebody better tell Mikel if geisha girl have boy parts then he boy. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 15, 2009 10:41 PM:
" no lefties have the courage to support barry's communists czars? or better yet, the courage as americans to denounce the appointments? this is the very reason that the silly little man appoints czars so they don't have to be investigated by congress. come on folks, you're either FOR or AGAINST communists in the united states government so why not speak out? and chung lee, just because we have a volunteer military does not mean that each member may pick and choose where they serve and you must have a very good reason for avoiding a deployment. good for this soldier. i recently viewed a video showing the military's response to barry and also pres. bush and i can tell you, the difference was astounding. true americans in the military on the whole, gave barry a less than lukewarm reception. respect is earned and barry has no capital. "
mikel wrote on Jul 15, 2009 10:29 PM:
" what i find amazing is that obamass is once again changing the tune to fit his wishes. originally, when the talk of "surcharging", not taxing, the rich to help pay for this health care the income at which they would start at was $350,000 (yesterdays wall street journal for you lefties). today, it has been decreased to $280,000 (tonights usa today edition). obamass can't make up his mind who he wants to screw. but, beware, he will continue to lower this dollar amount as the pressure gets turned up on the financial side of this. it is incredible the amount of people that think they are owed something by people who have it better than them. i say quit your whining, pull up your panties and do something about your situation. "
crummybuttlord wrote on Jul 15, 2009 10:24 PM:
" the issue isn't whether she's from japan or china...what's important is that mikel just said he likes her sack! dude likes chicks with d*cks! "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 15, 2009 10:20 PM:
" Oh lilmurm when are you going to get the facts? He volunteered and as a volunteer he can back out at any time (which he did). So basically he volunteered so that he could file his "junk lawsuit". Chung Lee heard that the army now revoked his clearance for his civilian job with the defense department. So who is the wacko? Now man lost job and now he can go on tour with "Joe the Plumber".
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/14/stefan-frederick-cook-sol_n_231383.html "
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/14/stefan-frederick-cook-sol_n_231383.html "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 15, 2009 10:12 PM:
" Chung Lee sees that Mikel likes to exhibit his ignorance. Geisha girl from Japan and Chung Lee from China. Not same place. Next time need help.... ask 3rd grader and they can show you on map. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 15, 2009 10:06 PM:
" amazing, left wing wackos stating that the solder who had his orders revoked is a coward while supporting barry just underscores how dangerous his followers really are. do you think the pentagon would back down from someone in the military refusing to be deployed. ever heard of the phrase "court martial"? they dont' just say, ok now you don't have to serve overseas. do any of you know this soldier or even take the time to read the article? i would stand behind an american soldier any day over barry hussein. by the way jimbo, maybe you should learn to read the whole post. when i signed off from one of my posts, i believe i said "until the next breaking story" and i did come back with a response and then later with a new story to post. the story of the day is that house democraps what to raise the federal tax on the wealthy to 45% even though barry said no one would be taxed higher than the 1990's level. i have always felt that the wealthy should not be punished for their success but i have to now laugh at the rich idiots who voted for the socialist. going to sting a little, heh? of course, most on this thread won't be hurt because only the really successful get slammed but the middle class will see their fair share of increased taxes as well. another hussein lie. one last note-of course a muslim non american could be elected as president when you have an electorate as uneducated and adoring as the left wing wackos here and a compliant media that won't even raise the issue. are the lefties here still supporting barry's pick of the 2 communists? the silence is deafening. until the next big story........ "
jimbo wrote on Jul 15, 2009 9:19 PM:
" RE:lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:32 AM:
this particular thread has grown wearisome so i'm moving on to more productive endeavors.
R:lilmurm wrote on Jul 15, 2009 10:58 AM:
the soldier who refused his deployment to afghanistan due to his belief that barry
Never trust a wingnut to keep their word.
Wingnut motto:
Never tell the truth, if a lie will do ya
better. "
this particular thread has grown wearisome so i'm moving on to more productive endeavors.
R:lilmurm wrote on Jul 15, 2009 10:58 AM:
the soldier who refused his deployment to afghanistan due to his belief that barry
Never trust a wingnut to keep their word.
Wingnut motto:
Never tell the truth, if a lie will do ya
better. "
mikel wrote on Jul 15, 2009 9:13 PM:
" chung lee is de idiot..only sacks i like is from your geisha girl "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 15, 2009 8:30 PM:
" justthefacts:
You are the one that really don't get it so I try and spell it out for you. Barry is the one who projects himself to be the athletic type and really is shape. I'm sure you have witnessed his supposed basketball prowessand at 46 he can't throw a baseball 60'6 inches. He's a joke, not only as a President but add athlete to his list of failures. The list is growing fast, it just takes some longer to read thean others. "
You are the one that really don't get it so I try and spell it out for you. Barry is the one who projects himself to be the athletic type and really is shape. I'm sure you have witnessed his supposed basketball prowessand at 46 he can't throw a baseball 60'6 inches. He's a joke, not only as a President but add athlete to his list of failures. The list is growing fast, it just takes some longer to read thean others. "
crummybuttlord wrote on Jul 15, 2009 8:28 PM:
" sorry just the facts...accidentally slipped you in there. "
crummybuttlord wrote on Jul 15, 2009 8:19 PM:
" why does WINSTON SMITH have so many names? just the facts, 6079 smith w, the new world czar...i even caught her having a conversation with herself once. so creepy. i guess it's true what they say...the democrats went republican and the republicans went insane. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 15, 2009 6:02 PM:
" Chung Lee think that Mikel the log cabin republican should get out of his partners tunnel long enough to see that Chung Lee was mocking Winston Smith because he called them Goldman Sachs and not Goldman Sacks as Winston called it. Chung Lee think Mikel needs to work on reading comprehension. "Saks" is not the same as "Sachs" and different from the "sacks" that Mikel obviously likes to take on the chin. "
santownresident wrote on Jul 15, 2009 5:14 PM:
" So "Barry" is not American? You people are telling me that a muslim from Africa can fake it and become president of the United States? Lol, just think about that one for a moment.............lol. "
mikel wrote on Jul 15, 2009 4:45 PM:
" maybe you didn't read chung yung lees post at 1035am but he says obamass has no former employees from goldman-sachs employed. just wanted to correct him. typical left winger with tunnel vision you are. if you look outside the tunnel you might learn something! "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 15, 2009 3:59 PM:
" Ambassador to Germany!
Wow, THERE"S and influential position of power...MUCH more important than Treasury Secretary!
you keep getting loonier and loonier...is there no depth to your craziness? "
Wow, THERE"S and influential position of power...MUCH more important than Treasury Secretary!
you keep getting loonier and loonier...is there no depth to your craziness? "
duhast wrote on Jul 15, 2009 12:03 PM:
" The soldier was a pawn. Just like all of the poor saps in class action law suits. The lawyer who filed the case is known for bringing crazy litigation to court. She was just looking for someone to use. "
duhast wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:59 AM:
" When I went to get my drivers license, my mother provided the certificate from the hospital with all of the information you are asking for. The license bureau said it was not a valid form and I had to go to the court house and get a certified copy of the actual birth certificate. Exactly like the one posted on the internet. My official State of Ohio birth certificate has NO information about the hospital in which I was born.
Follow the link that I have already provided. There is also a copy of the birth announcement from the 1961 newspaper. Do you think Obama discovered time travel and went back in time to put his own birth announcement in the paper? Talk about raving lunatics.
I’m just not getting your argument. According to all legal and official documents, the state of Hawaii says he was born there in 1961. Even if you could prove some technicality, do you think the supreme court would even hear the case? What is your point? Do you think you can magically remove the president by an imagined technicality. It isn’t going to happen. Move on to some other conspiracy theory. "
Follow the link that I have already provided. There is also a copy of the birth announcement from the 1961 newspaper. Do you think Obama discovered time travel and went back in time to put his own birth announcement in the paper? Talk about raving lunatics.
I’m just not getting your argument. According to all legal and official documents, the state of Hawaii says he was born there in 1961. Even if you could prove some technicality, do you think the supreme court would even hear the case? What is your point? Do you think you can magically remove the president by an imagined technicality. It isn’t going to happen. Move on to some other conspiracy theory. "
King of Erie-Lorain County wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:24 AM:
" The soldier who refused his orders "due to his belief that barry is not a legitimate president" is a coward and the Pentagon top brass decided that a cowardly, unhinged tin foil hat wearing wingnut wasn't the best person to have in a war zone. It's that simple. Now he'll be flying a desk at Fort Sill. "
mikel wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:19 AM:
" actually, obamass has appointed a former goldman-sachs czar as the new ambassador to germany.
the state of hawaii has formally sealed birth certificate records of obamass. however, any person can walk into a get a birth certificate on anyone else in that state. curious....
regarding the soldier who filed an injunction of his orders on being sent to iraq. good for you! one should not have to serve an illegitimate socialist pig such as obamass. it is interesting that once this hit the courts they would rather approve his injunction than produce a phony birth certificate of obamass. however, you must take into consideration that this happened in california. it don't get much more left than that. "
the state of hawaii has formally sealed birth certificate records of obamass. however, any person can walk into a get a birth certificate on anyone else in that state. curious....
regarding the soldier who filed an injunction of his orders on being sent to iraq. good for you! one should not have to serve an illegitimate socialist pig such as obamass. it is interesting that once this hit the courts they would rather approve his injunction than produce a phony birth certificate of obamass. however, you must take into consideration that this happened in california. it don't get much more left than that. "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:01 AM:
" Excellent Chug Lee.
I might add that former Goldman-Sachs CEO Hank Paulson was President George W. BUSH'S Treasury Secretary.
There's yourt Wall Streeter Winston, Bush's guy. "
I might add that former Goldman-Sachs CEO Hank Paulson was President George W. BUSH'S Treasury Secretary.
There's yourt Wall Streeter Winston, Bush's guy. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 15, 2009 10:58 AM:
" the soldier who refused his deployment to afghanistan due to his belief that barry is not a legitimate president based on his birthplace has had his orders revoked. just like that. of course, the government couldn't allow this soldier to go to court because then the real proof of barry's birth would be called into court. his "certificate of live birth" is not a valid birth certificate with a physician or hospital name. there is no physician or parental signature. have you guys looked at your own birth certificate lately? these documents were distributed by hawaii between 1911 and 1972 regardless of where the baby was born. it just verified that the said baby exists. this is astonishing that a military man can challenge barry's citizenship then all of a sudden, his deployment is no more. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 15, 2009 10:35 AM:
" Winston, once again you do not disappoint Chung Lee. Chung Lee still wait for the citation for your statistic that only 2% of vets from the 1960's and 1970's served in Vietnam. Chung Lee think Chung Lee will not see that "fact" because it is not true. Unlike Winston Chung Lee can provide link to facts. Watch the video of Bush telling already leveraged people to "go out and shop"
http://video.thinkprogress.org/2006/12/bushshopping.320.240.flv
Winston asked "So how many former Goldman-Saks employees are currently working in and for the WH? Have you counted them all?". The answer is zero. The name of the company is Goldman Sachs. You are correct that there is a difference between a Certificate of Live Birth and Birth Certificate.......so Chung Lee would like to know what the diffence is between a "typo" and a "spelling error".
Chung Lee still keep score. Score is Chung Lee "4" and Winston Smith / 6079 Smith W "0" "
http://video.thinkprogress.org/2006/12/bushshopping.320.240.flv
Winston asked "So how many former Goldman-Saks employees are currently working in and for the WH? Have you counted them all?". The answer is zero. The name of the company is Goldman Sachs. You are correct that there is a difference between a Certificate of Live Birth and Birth Certificate.......so Chung Lee would like to know what the diffence is between a "typo" and a "spelling error".
Chung Lee still keep score. Score is Chung Lee "4" and Winston Smith / 6079 Smith W "0" "
6079 Smith W wrote on Jul 15, 2009 8:38 AM:
" POTUS Obama, July 14, Speaking at Macomb Community College in Michigan:
‘And let me be clear: We pay for this plan -- this isn't adding to the deficit; we're paying for this plan -- by ending the wasteful subsidies we currently provide to banks and private lenders for student loans. (Applause.) That will save tens of billions of dollars over the next 10 years. Instead of lining the pockets of special interests, it's time this money went towards the interests of higher education in America. ‘
Let ME make this clear:
Sock puppet Obama is lying and he’ll add billions more to the Federal deficit amd the Federal debt.
Without accountabilty and oversight from the private sector, he’ll see to it that the true costs of this new spending program is hidden within the Federal Budget.
It's as simple as: Default rates on these student loans will be greater without private sector oversight, leading to increased costs.
When has anyone in the history of the world seen a govt. program which lowered the costs of any health or welfare service?
See: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Investing-in-Education-The-American-Graduation-Initiative/ "
‘And let me be clear: We pay for this plan -- this isn't adding to the deficit; we're paying for this plan -- by ending the wasteful subsidies we currently provide to banks and private lenders for student loans. (Applause.) That will save tens of billions of dollars over the next 10 years. Instead of lining the pockets of special interests, it's time this money went towards the interests of higher education in America. ‘
Let ME make this clear:
Sock puppet Obama is lying and he’ll add billions more to the Federal deficit amd the Federal debt.
Without accountabilty and oversight from the private sector, he’ll see to it that the true costs of this new spending program is hidden within the Federal Budget.
It's as simple as: Default rates on these student loans will be greater without private sector oversight, leading to increased costs.
When has anyone in the history of the world seen a govt. program which lowered the costs of any health or welfare service?
See: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Investing-in-Education-The-American-Graduation-Initiative/ "
6079 Smith W wrote on Jul 15, 2009 8:10 AM:
" justthefacts wrote on Jul 13, 2009 10:26 AM:
‘And it was "W", not Obama, that told us to "just go out in shop" after 9/11/2001.’
Ya got a source on that quotation?
So, Obama doesn’t want consumers to spend?
Where's the economic recovery gonna come from if consumers make up 70% of GDP?
I stand corrected on Geithner - just a political hack who fails to pay taxes.
So how many former Goldman-Saks employees are currently working in and for the WH? Have you counted them all?
Your love of and faith in Obama makes you blind. "
‘And it was "W", not Obama, that told us to "just go out in shop" after 9/11/2001.’
Ya got a source on that quotation?
So, Obama doesn’t want consumers to spend?
Where's the economic recovery gonna come from if consumers make up 70% of GDP?
I stand corrected on Geithner - just a political hack who fails to pay taxes.
So how many former Goldman-Saks employees are currently working in and for the WH? Have you counted them all?
Your love of and faith in Obama makes you blind. "
6079 Smith W wrote on Jul 15, 2009 7:46 AM:
" kath2860 wrote on Jul 14, 2009 6:22 PM:
" The fact that people are still screaming about the birth certificate even though it is available for all to see would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic and scary! What idiocy. "
It’s not a ‘birth certificate,’ but a ‘certificate of live birth,’ – legally different.
Just curious; why are Barack and his cronies spending so much money to keep the American people from seeing the ‘real deal?’
If Barry forgot how he met his wife, maybe he ‘conveniently’ forgot where he was born?
FYI: When running for POTUS, Clinton never released his medical records; an STD or two maybe?
Speaking of conspiracies: Let’s see a show of hands of how many left wing nutjobs we have on this blog who believe that 9-11 was an ‘inside job?’ Hum? "
" The fact that people are still screaming about the birth certificate even though it is available for all to see would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic and scary! What idiocy. "
It’s not a ‘birth certificate,’ but a ‘certificate of live birth,’ – legally different.
Just curious; why are Barack and his cronies spending so much money to keep the American people from seeing the ‘real deal?’
If Barry forgot how he met his wife, maybe he ‘conveniently’ forgot where he was born?
FYI: When running for POTUS, Clinton never released his medical records; an STD or two maybe?
Speaking of conspiracies: Let’s see a show of hands of how many left wing nutjobs we have on this blog who believe that 9-11 was an ‘inside job?’ Hum? "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 15, 2009 7:15 AM:
" that's it!
Making a bad throw is an impeachable offense!!
Impeach him and the entire Cleveland Indians bullpen!
Just when I thought you right-wing guys couldn't get any more looney...you go and get more looney. "
Making a bad throw is an impeachable offense!!
Impeach him and the entire Cleveland Indians bullpen!
Just when I thought you right-wing guys couldn't get any more looney...you go and get more looney. "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 15, 2009 2:02 AM:
" Did you people see Barry attempt to throw the first pitch in the game tonight. I thought he was suppose to be at least somewhat athletic. Of course, excuse me, he's suppose to be many things he's really not. Underneath that White Sox uniform is another Clark Kent in waiting. "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 15, 2009 1:57 AM:
" mikel:
Hey, I'm on your side.
Was just sent this E-Mail, 5 minutes long. Worth watching. I really hope this one is FALSE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h$-OSHFEGo
Attention: I inserted the $ Sign after the letter h
change the $ sign to the letter o. They wouldn't let me post the comment because it was an inappropriate word. "
Hey, I'm on your side.
Was just sent this E-Mail, 5 minutes long. Worth watching. I really hope this one is FALSE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h$-OSHFEGo
Attention: I inserted the $ Sign after the letter h
change the $ sign to the letter o. They wouldn't let me post the comment because it was an inappropriate word. "
Kurt wrote on Jul 14, 2009 8:59 PM:
" Lilmurm- he couldn't drive a nail into a 2x4? That is a funny expression. Mind if I use it? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 8:26 PM:
" the op-ed pages of the wall street journal have been blasting barry's policies as well.by the way, if timmy wants the arab countries to recognize who's driving the global economy, they're barking up the wrong tree with barry. he couldn't drive a nail into a 2x4. "
mikel wrote on Jul 14, 2009 8:11 PM:
" big mouth, very rarely do i watch tv. 99% of my information actually comes from left wing newspapers such as the washington post, usa today or new york times. once i read those articles i try and form my own opinion. for example, my post at 11:06am regarding the poor results of the stimulas monies is from an article in yesterday's washington post. my post from 2:31pm regarding obamass's puppet geithner was taken from an article out of today's usa today. so, big mouth, you see these articles are right in front of me and they are right out of the lefties network.
funny thing is that even though they try and spin a positive light all you have to do is look around you and see how terrible things are. for example, our fearless gov strickland (d), has implemented the approval of slot machines at race tracks throughout ohio. why aren't you dems b!tch!ng about that? after all the majority spoke at least two times with resounding defeats at the ballots on this issue. yet gov strickland goes against our wishes and does this. typical dem arrogance..i am right and you are wrong attitude. actually it is a sad day when a person can't even turn and tv and all you see is obamass and the media saying how great he is. kind of reminds me of documentaries of hitler, stalin and mussolini. "
funny thing is that even though they try and spin a positive light all you have to do is look around you and see how terrible things are. for example, our fearless gov strickland (d), has implemented the approval of slot machines at race tracks throughout ohio. why aren't you dems b!tch!ng about that? after all the majority spoke at least two times with resounding defeats at the ballots on this issue. yet gov strickland goes against our wishes and does this. typical dem arrogance..i am right and you are wrong attitude. actually it is a sad day when a person can't even turn and tv and all you see is obamass and the media saying how great he is. kind of reminds me of documentaries of hitler, stalin and mussolini. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 7:51 PM:
" hey big mouth, you are absolutely correct as usual. i ran across a very interesting article today about one of obama's czars and it was quite an eye opener. even i wasn't sure of it's authenticity so i looked him up on wikipedia. it seems the green czar, van jones founded a very radical group called STORM which was a multi-racial activist organization with heavy marxist influences. (word for word on the website) he states that in april of 1992, he was a nationalist at the time of the rodney king verdict but by august of that year, he was a communist. ok, so barry has at least 2 czars in his regime who are either socialists/communists or just members of those societies. remember carol browner, his energy czar. ok, you have 2 czars within the same jurisdiction with socialist leanings while you have al gore talking about global warming and global governance so does anyone see the connection between the global warming hoax and political control? on a lighter note, did you see the video of barry in the reception line attempting to shake hands and not one of them extended a hand to him but instead, offered their hand to his russian counterpart. it was hilarious and sure to be a blow to his super ego. also, russia has now stated that their policy toward iran's nuke program will not be influenced by barry's selling the US down the toilet with arms reduction. you can't make this stuff up!! "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 14, 2009 6:41 PM:
" Winston-lilmurm-mikel-and others:
I've noticed that many times you post a comment or state facts, even opinions, you get immediate responses,NEGATIVE, about your sources of information and statements, " you were listening to Fox news again" etc.
My point:
I'm not a detective but for these people to readily know your sources of information tells me they are listening to the same channels and reading the same material you guys are. "
I've noticed that many times you post a comment or state facts, even opinions, you get immediate responses,NEGATIVE, about your sources of information and statements, " you were listening to Fox news again" etc.
My point:
I'm not a detective but for these people to readily know your sources of information tells me they are listening to the same channels and reading the same material you guys are. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 14, 2009 6:35 PM:
" Speaking of "real" "lost" documents....did they ever find W's service records? "
kath2860 wrote on Jul 14, 2009 6:22 PM:
" The fact that people are still screaming about the birth certificate even though it is available for all to see would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic and scary! What idiocy. "
duhast wrote on Jul 14, 2009 4:38 PM:
" So, here we go. It’s been released. It’s on the web. He was born in 1961. Hawaii became a state in 1959. Stop already. "
duhast wrote on Jul 14, 2009 4:26 PM:
" Goofus,
Rent The Cheech and Chong movie "Up in Smoke".
I thought we covered this before. It's been produced. Sorry you are ineligible to receive a certified version.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html "
Rent The Cheech and Chong movie "Up in Smoke".
I thought we covered this before. It's been produced. Sorry you are ineligible to receive a certified version.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 14, 2009 4:24 PM:
" Chung Lee think goofus might be a "Log Cabin Republican". Chung Lee no ask no tell. "
goofus wrote on Jul 14, 2009 3:59 PM:
" Duhast, my neck is not a red as your face is going to be when the american people wake up to our illegal alien president. Show us the birth certificate and give us the doctor"s name "
goofus wrote on Jul 14, 2009 3:56 PM:
" Oh great, another idiot to dialogue with, duhast, code name for Dumb a**. Please inform me on how the sitting president is the greatest thing since sliced bread when he has run the deficit up to one trillion dollars and wants to give out more in stead of cutting taxes to american businesses so they can expand "
goofus wrote on Jul 14, 2009 3:42 PM:
" Hey chung lee, are you ready for your children and grand children to pay off the national debt, which under OSAMA is now one trillion dollars. The man is a complete jerk with then sole purpose of socialism for the greatest country on earth. I'm in my late fifties with the will of god, I won't see the destruction of the country I loved when I was fighting in Viet Nam. Chung lee two dollar make you hollar "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 14, 2009 3:30 PM:
" Goofus, Chung Lee glad you no have children because they would probably be as ignorant as yourself.
Osama? Is is so hard to remember the President's name is Obama? "
Osama? Is is so hard to remember the President's name is Obama? "
duhast wrote on Jul 14, 2009 3:16 PM:
" goofus, I'm pretty sure it's in Saudi Arabia. You should hop on over and check. "
goofus wrote on Jul 14, 2009 3:15 PM:
" Sorry chung lee, but I never voted for Osama, under his (leadership) the national debt is now at a record high of one trillion dollars, thank god I have no children that will try to pay off this massive debt. All this money and the unemployment continues to spiral. Barry Osama is a complete idiot "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 14, 2009 3:00 PM:
" Goofus, Chung Lee think you have reading comprehension problem. Chung Lee basically implied that many conservatives will not vote for a person of color. In that there are not any black Republicans in the House or in the Senate, Chung Lee think that statement is pretty accurate. Chung Lee will not vote for Jindhal because after his speech..... pretty certain he douche bag.
Osama? Is is so hard to remember the President's name is Obama? "
Osama? Is is so hard to remember the President's name is Obama? "
goofus wrote on Jul 14, 2009 3:00 PM:
" Where is Osama,s birth certificate and the doctor that delivered him? Illegal alien and illegal president "
goofus wrote on Jul 14, 2009 2:39 PM:
" Re: chung lee, if bobby jindhal is too dark, what about Osama. "
mikel wrote on Jul 14, 2009 2:31 PM:
" well i see that obamass's puppet, treasury secretary geithner is over in saudi arabia begging the middle eastern powers to bail us out. an excerpt.."geithner was stressing to some of americas top creditors that his country has a special responsibility to steer the world through a global recession.." he!! the obamass administration can't even steer america through this without causing financial ruin to everything they touch, how can they steer the world through it? "
Erie Countian wrote on Jul 14, 2009 2:07 PM:
" Yes lilmurm, apparent self-appointed savior of our nation, PLEASE DO move on to that "larger populous" you have to reach. I thought you grew weary of the "limited readership" on this site a few hours ago and were leaving us then? Toodle-oo, you insane wingnut. I'll be glad to see you AND your pathetic delusions of grandeur disappear from here. Register, time to put a fork in this article and thread. "
duhast wrote on Jul 14, 2009 11:48 AM:
" lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 11:30 AM
???????????????????????????? "
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lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 11:30 AM:
" i believe the last paragraph makes reference to the fact that the plan has not worked. they expected 5 million to refinance and 4 million to get reduced payments. apparently, that has not happened even with barry's refinance your home campaign and anyone with half a brain knew that the failing economy would prevent his said results. it is amusing however when he and biden now say that the recovery will take years because they "misread" the economy when he refered to it as the "greatest financial crisis since the depression"? he was using "crisis and catastophe" so often in each speech that his advisors told him to tone it down as it was spooking wall street to paraphrase. did you notice where the official stated that government intervention could distort the housing market? legitimate economists have been saying the same for months, one being barry's previous supporter, cramer has finally awakened and he is hardly a right wing wacko. the problem is that no debate is going to change any left wing radical's idea that government should race to the rescue with funding and in doing so, control everyday peoples' lives. just when did the constitution change, duhast. you know, that little document that curbs federal power. you march in lockstep with his tactics which make you appear very silly and buy into his panic. crisis, crisis, crisis, must past tarp II, omnibus, porkulous bill, cap and trade, healthcare and give citizenship to the illegals because the sky is falling and we must act NOW. actually, he pushes his agenda through because the longer the public views these bills, the less they like them. it's so URGENT that congress hasn't the time to read them. i think readers of this blog have plenty to think about now and i hope take the initiative to investigate the issues to make informed choices. but this readership is limited and as you know, i have a larger populous to reach. until the next breaking story.... "
duhast wrote on Jul 14, 2009 11:10 AM:
" You've misplaced the last 10 paragraphs of the article...
You had better highlight that sentence where "barry's housing rescue plan unveiled in february just didn' work” "
You had better highlight that sentence where "barry's housing rescue plan unveiled in february just didn' work” "
mikel wrote on Jul 14, 2009 11:06 AM:
" the first stimulas project obamass has shoved down the throats of the taxpayers seems to be working so well (hahaha) that he is considering mortgaging the future even more by introducing a second stimulas project. "
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NEW YORK/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama is mulling new ways to delay foreclosure for jobless homeowners who are unable to keep up with monthly payments, an administration official said on Monday.
The official told Reuters it was reasonable for policymakers to consider options for loan forbearance -- allowing borrowers to delay, defer or skip payments -- that are more effective than those currently available in the private sector.
The number of failing home loans has been climbing for three years as risky borrowers have defaulted on their easy-to-get loans, property values have sunk and the unemployment rate has climbed.
But the official said the idea, which is still evolving, was difficult from a policy perspective and carries potential hazards. It could help more people struggling with economic difficulty, but it also could create perverse incentives that distort the housing market, said the official, who did not want to speak on the record about internal administration debates.
The official said such a program would be in keeping with other measures to help workers who have lost jobs in the current recession.
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Officials have been frustrated as red-tape and rising mortgage rates have slowed a housing rescue plan announced in February that was meant to refinance 5 million borrowers and lower monthly payments for 4 million more.
DUHAST, SEE THE LAST PARAGRAPH THAT I COPIED AND PASTED FROM THE 7/14 ARTICLE. NPR?? HAHAHA. LIBERAL MOUTHPIECE "
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NEW YORK/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama is mulling new ways to delay foreclosure for jobless homeowners who are unable to keep up with monthly payments, an administration official said on Monday.
The official told Reuters it was reasonable for policymakers to consider options for loan forbearance -- allowing borrowers to delay, defer or skip payments -- that are more effective than those currently available in the private sector.
The number of failing home loans has been climbing for three years as risky borrowers have defaulted on their easy-to-get loans, property values have sunk and the unemployment rate has climbed.
But the official said the idea, which is still evolving, was difficult from a policy perspective and carries potential hazards. It could help more people struggling with economic difficulty, but it also could create perverse incentives that distort the housing market, said the official, who did not want to speak on the record about internal administration debates.
The official said such a program would be in keeping with other measures to help workers who have lost jobs in the current recession.
CONTINUED SLIDE
Officials have been frustrated as red-tape and rising mortgage rates have slowed a housing rescue plan announced in February that was meant to refinance 5 million borrowers and lower monthly payments for 4 million more.
DUHAST, SEE THE LAST PARAGRAPH THAT I COPIED AND PASTED FROM THE 7/14 ARTICLE. NPR?? HAHAHA. LIBERAL MOUTHPIECE "
duhast wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:41 AM:
" lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:32 AM:
this particular thread has grown wearisome so i'm moving on to more productive endeavors.
Translation: Once again, I didn’t get my way, so I’m taking my toys and going home! "
this particular thread has grown wearisome so i'm moving on to more productive endeavors.
Translation: Once again, I didn’t get my way, so I’m taking my toys and going home! "
duhast wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:39 AM:
" lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:19 AM:
due to beauracratic red tap and rising rates" the millions that barry expected to refinance didn't. did you overlook that sentence or are you being deliberately dishonest?
Nope, that particular sentence is not in there. I doubt Reuters would refer to the president at “barry”. Anyway, your summery of the article and your subsequent claim have been proven wrong.
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:19 AM:
the government should never give any broadcaster funding because it would compromise the FREE PRESS.
Please don’t tell PBS and NPR. I’d hate to see Elmo cry.
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:19 AM:
" duhast, the last time i looked, mccain is not the president and since when do you support anything he says
Only the president can make recommendations to The Senate Armed Services Committee?? Hey, I’m a bi-partisan kind of guy. Just because I didn’t vote for him doesn’t mean he’s not a respected member of congress. "
due to beauracratic red tap and rising rates" the millions that barry expected to refinance didn't. did you overlook that sentence or are you being deliberately dishonest?
Nope, that particular sentence is not in there. I doubt Reuters would refer to the president at “barry”. Anyway, your summery of the article and your subsequent claim have been proven wrong.
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:19 AM:
the government should never give any broadcaster funding because it would compromise the FREE PRESS.
Please don’t tell PBS and NPR. I’d hate to see Elmo cry.
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:19 AM:
" duhast, the last time i looked, mccain is not the president and since when do you support anything he says
Only the president can make recommendations to The Senate Armed Services Committee?? Hey, I’m a bi-partisan kind of guy. Just because I didn’t vote for him doesn’t mean he’s not a respected member of congress. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:32 AM:
" hi mikel, i agree that it would be very difficult to impeach barry although he's discarding the constitution while congress sits by and allows it. everyone just remember, charges can be brought against a president after he leaves office or when the power changes in congress: an example i point to is the democrats' actions daily against pres. bush. however, my main purpose is to expose his radical policies so that citizens will go to the polls in nov. 2010 with one purpose in mind and that is to remove his congressional majority then defeat him in 2012. i am noticing more MSM printing the uncomfortable facts now and the polls show the masses are finally waking up. have a good day. this particular thread has grown wearisome so i'm moving on to more productive endeavors. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:21 AM:
" correction-obama threatened to veto the bill. has not done so yet. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:19 AM:
" duhast, the last time i looked, mccain is not the president and since when do you support anything he says, plus what makes his opinion gospel? he's backing obama in quite a few questionable policies, illegal immigration included but apparently, there are some in the senate who do favor the F22s. obama vetoed the bill and that IS fact. one of the reuter's article about the housing issue stated that "due to beauracratic red tap and rising rates" the millions that barry expected to refinance didn't. did you overlook that sentence or are you being deliberately dishonest? as for the broadcasters, i cannot believe even you made the statement that everyone is asking for money. the government should never give any broadcaster funding because it would compromise the FREE PRESS. unbelievable and why only minority broadcasters? they're whining that it's difficult to get loans and advertising is down so perhaps that's an indication that they are a bad risk but will that stop barry? this is called capitalism and the free market where each business has the opportunity to fail or succeed but you're advocating a news media run in the manner of chavez where government owns and then in essence controls content? "
mikel wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:13 AM:
" wow, i can't believe that this is still being discussed. impeach him and get it over with. but, then you must ask yourself is biden any better? not really is the answer. neither of them have had any expirience which is why our country is spiraling out of control. if you want a good snapshot of our country just do the following. stand over your toilet and flush it..you then see the water swirling around the bowl and then flushes right out. you then see a picture of obamass at the bottom. oh wait that is a turd that got stuck, what a close resemblence! "
duhast wrote on Jul 14, 2009 10:09 AM:
" Goldman Sachs just earned a $2.72 billion profit and repaid their 10 billion TARP loan.
In other Reuters news: Commerce Department data on Tuesday showed sales at U.S. retailers rose 0.6 percent from a month earlier, ahead of economists' expectations for a 0.4 percent advance.
Why hasn’t lilmurm posted the breaking news?? Has she been scooped? "
In other Reuters news: Commerce Department data on Tuesday showed sales at U.S. retailers rose 0.6 percent from a month earlier, ahead of economists' expectations for a 0.4 percent advance.
Why hasn’t lilmurm posted the breaking news?? Has she been scooped? "
Julie R. wrote on Jul 14, 2009 9:56 AM:
" duhast, yes I know we are beating a DIFFERENT dead horse here but as usual the idiot named "I" started it. "
duhast wrote on Jul 14, 2009 9:45 AM:
" Julie,
Wrong forum. We are beating a DIFFERENT dead horse here. Please be more careful next time ;p "
Wrong forum. We are beating a DIFFERENT dead horse here. Please be more careful next time ;p "
duhast wrote on Jul 14, 2009 9:44 AM:
" Julie,
Wrong forum. We are beating a DIFFERENT dead horse here. Please bemore carefull nest timme ;p "
Wrong forum. We are beating a DIFFERENT dead horse here. Please bemore carefull nest timme ;p "
Julie R. wrote on Jul 14, 2009 9:01 AM:
" To "I": The proof is all a matter of public record in CORRUPT Erie County. Oh by the way, better watch your property. In Eeerie County it's a matter of public record that Lorain County attorneys can transfer it (without your knowledge of course) and they don't even need a POA to do it. All they have to do is falsely state there's one on file. Stands to reason if Lorain County attorneys have THAT much clout with the Erie County PUBLIC OFFICIALS wonder how much clout the Erie County attorneys have! "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 14, 2009 8:55 AM:
" duhast- lilmurm is beyond hope...the nonsense he writes on here just turns off people anyways. He is blind to that fact. He seems blind to most facts.
Let's let him keep digging a deeper hole. It's kind of amusing, just like Ric Hill's moronic "Impeach Obama" sign. Think about how absolutely ridiculous the idea of impeaching Obama is and you'll see that these guys are literally living outside of reality. "
Let's let him keep digging a deeper hole. It's kind of amusing, just like Ric Hill's moronic "Impeach Obama" sign. Think about how absolutely ridiculous the idea of impeaching Obama is and you'll see that these guys are literally living outside of reality. "
duhast wrote on Jul 14, 2009 8:36 AM:
" Oh, I forgot one "fact"...
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 12:37 AM:
i do firmly support mark, rush and sean.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/kfiles/b91585.html "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 12:37 AM:
i do firmly support mark, rush and sean.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/kfiles/b91585.html "
duhast wrote on Jul 14, 2009 8:31 AM:
" It’s difficult to pull “facts” from your lengthy manifestos. Even then, you take so much out of context and stretch it, that you could work for Fox News. But if you’d like us to refute them, than here goes…
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 8:44 PM:
" barry is now threatening to veto his own defense bill because senators have added the cost of 1.75 billion dollars for 7 F22 fighters you are against it.
The only guy that wants to keep it is the Senator from the state where it’s built. Big surprise there. Even McCain is against it. Did you mention that??
The F22 has been plagued with maintenance issues and has never been used in combat. If it was Bush who wanted to kill the program, you would be all for it. Since it’s Obama, you’re against it. Obstructionist anyone??
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 10:33 PM:
" according to reuters today, barry's housing rescue plan unveiled in february just didn' work
That’s not what it said. The Reuters article said that due to unemployment, home owners are still having trouble making payments. Because of low housing prices, equity is too low to refinance. What the article said and what you read seem to be two different things.
http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-CreditCrisis/idUSTRE56D04920090714?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 11:08 PM:
" Wall Steet Journal 7/13/09. minority broadcasters now asking geithner for financial assistance.
OK, so is everyone else. Seriously, who isn’t asking for bailout money right now. These minority owned and served broadcasters were hit because their primary source of Ad revenue has been the auto industry. They are asking for loans that they will pay back. Just like the Auto industry. It shows your racism by singling out this one particular story.
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/315038-Minority_Broadcasters_Try_Direct_Appeal_to_Geithner_Ask_for_Industry_Help.php?rssid=20065
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 12:37 AM
democrats are going to force insurance companies to accept everyone and cannot charge extra for pre existing conditions.
Darn Skippy! The insurance racket has been destroying people’s lives and they need regulated. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 8:44 PM:
" barry is now threatening to veto his own defense bill because senators have added the cost of 1.75 billion dollars for 7 F22 fighters you are against it.
The only guy that wants to keep it is the Senator from the state where it’s built. Big surprise there. Even McCain is against it. Did you mention that??
The F22 has been plagued with maintenance issues and has never been used in combat. If it was Bush who wanted to kill the program, you would be all for it. Since it’s Obama, you’re against it. Obstructionist anyone??
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 10:33 PM:
" according to reuters today, barry's housing rescue plan unveiled in february just didn' work
That’s not what it said. The Reuters article said that due to unemployment, home owners are still having trouble making payments. Because of low housing prices, equity is too low to refinance. What the article said and what you read seem to be two different things.
http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-CreditCrisis/idUSTRE56D04920090714?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 11:08 PM:
" Wall Steet Journal 7/13/09. minority broadcasters now asking geithner for financial assistance.
OK, so is everyone else. Seriously, who isn’t asking for bailout money right now. These minority owned and served broadcasters were hit because their primary source of Ad revenue has been the auto industry. They are asking for loans that they will pay back. Just like the Auto industry. It shows your racism by singling out this one particular story.
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/315038-Minority_Broadcasters_Try_Direct_Appeal_to_Geithner_Ask_for_Industry_Help.php?rssid=20065
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 12:37 AM
democrats are going to force insurance companies to accept everyone and cannot charge extra for pre existing conditions.
Darn Skippy! The insurance racket has been destroying people’s lives and they need regulated. "
Richard Bebb wrote on Jul 14, 2009 3:10 AM:
" Hey here is a fun fact about the urgent need for healthcare according to Barry and his comrades in the house and senate. They all like to state that there are supposedly 50 million Americans without health insurance according to the 2006 Census Bureau.
Almost 10 million (9.5) are not American citizens.
Another 17 million lived in households where the yearly income exceeded $50,000.
18 million of the supposedly 50 million were between the ages of 18 and 34.
So the radical socialist liberal Barry wants the American taxpayer to provide healthcare for criminals who entered this country illegally, people who could pay for their own health coverage based on their yearly income, and the young who presumably chose not to purchase health insurance because the are relatively healthy and do not need it.
(Taken from Liberty and Tyranny - Mark Levin pg 107)
And before all you biased socialists jump all over this FACT because it was in a conservative's book, here is Mr. Levin's source.
http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results.html?artId=16014 "
Almost 10 million (9.5) are not American citizens.
Another 17 million lived in households where the yearly income exceeded $50,000.
18 million of the supposedly 50 million were between the ages of 18 and 34.
So the radical socialist liberal Barry wants the American taxpayer to provide healthcare for criminals who entered this country illegally, people who could pay for their own health coverage based on their yearly income, and the young who presumably chose not to purchase health insurance because the are relatively healthy and do not need it.
(Taken from Liberty and Tyranny - Mark Levin pg 107)
And before all you biased socialists jump all over this FACT because it was in a conservative's book, here is Mr. Levin's source.
http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results.html?artId=16014 "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 14, 2009 12:37 AM:
" actually, all this news came from websites such as reuters and the wall street journal although i do firmly support mark, rush and sean. the real beauty is that the more liberal news sources are now printing the stories that used to be hidden. even the AP report on the SR website has a story where the democrats are going to force insurance companies to accept everyone and cannot charge extra for pre existing conditions. it's called high risk and all insurances do it including auto insurance and even homeowners' insurance premiums are based on your credit history/risk factor. those who use very little insurance will be forced to pay for the heavy users. individuals will be required to carry coverage or face fines as well. talk about government control of every aspect of your life. maybe a young, healthy person would prefer to set aside a special savings account for medical emergencies and if there are none, then his funds would belong to him but barry has a better way to control your money. what business is it of his whether someone has insurance or not as long as they're not asking the government to pay their bills? our founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves if they knew of this oppressive federal government that we now are subjected to. posters may poke fun at conservative commentators but i challenge anyone to dispute the facts that i presented today. they're all available on news websites if you want to look them up. "
hancrack me up wrote on Jul 13, 2009 11:58 PM:
" Been listening to Mark "Loony" Levin again I see, lilmurm. Let's see: Rush noon-3, Hannity 3-5 & Levin sometime between 8 & 11. Nothing like planning your day around 3 loudmouthed wingnuts...and this place! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 11:14 PM:
" wow, this is unreal folks. it seems that 4 House democrats sent a letter requesting the same financial bailout back in may and the minorites' request was just a follow up. this is wrong on so many levels but any clear thinking american can see that. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 11:08 PM:
" Wall Steet Journal 7/13/09. minority broadcasters now asking geithner for financial assistance. anyone what to guess whether or not they're receive it? gee, is there anything that barry won't control in this country? he's beginning to sound more and more like chavez and his internet czar hasn't even kicked into high gear yet with his censorship tactics. we're watching you, barry. "
I wrote on Jul 13, 2009 10:55 PM:
" JulieR, just because I've changed my opinion of Buff doesn't mean I've changed my opinion of you. I'm still looking for you to provide your proof and you still can't. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 10:33 PM:
" according to reuters today, barry's housing rescue plan unveiled in february just didn' work and now he's looking at other homeowner mortgage aids for the unemployed. due to red tape and "rising rates", the millions of americans expected to refinance earlier this year, did not. we told the liberals that bailouts would cause interest rates to increase but they supposedly knew best. what a slap in the face to the large percentage of americans who are paying their mortgages on time, they now have the priviledge of paying for others'. people have always fallen on hard times such as previous recessions and housing bubble bursts, divorce, deaths, loss of job, etc and never expected government to step in. welcome to the days of obamalot. "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 13, 2009 9:02 PM:
" So when Bobby Jindal gives the Republican response to President Obama's first State of the Union address (and by the way Jindal BOMBED that night) it is called "keeping a low profile"...that one is a WHOPPER, lilmurm!
Many defense experts of all political stripes want to kill the F-22 project because the Pentagon has better uses for the $$. If you think that the President is against "strengthening our defense" then you are even further in the dark then I imagined. You seriously have not been paying attention to anything real, lilmurm. "
Many defense experts of all political stripes want to kill the F-22 project because the Pentagon has better uses for the $$. If you think that the President is against "strengthening our defense" then you are even further in the dark then I imagined. You seriously have not been paying attention to anything real, lilmurm. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 8:44 PM:
" barry is now threatening to veto his own defense bill because senators have added the cost of 1.75 billion dollars for 7 F22 fighters. this addition not only strengthens our defense but also provides jobs for their constituents so of course, barry's against it. even though he pledged no more earmarks, his porkulous bill included over 9000 of them yet there was no veto. i guess passing his pet project with all the excess spending that he supposedly denounced is more important to him than military spending. hmmm "
Kurt wrote on Jul 13, 2009 7:45 PM:
" Has any body seen an American Indian? Most of us aren't from here originally. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 13, 2009 6:38 PM:
" 505 comments
Most remind me of a (insert ethnic slur) flashlight,
not too bright. "
Most remind me of a (insert ethnic slur) flashlight,
not too bright. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 13, 2009 6:13 PM:
" Jindal and the religious right? Those racist will not vote for him because his skin is too dark. Chung Lee say 1,000 to 1 odds at best. No worry about visa because before long China own US and then make rules. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 5:05 PM:
" i don't know about ron paul but those who supported him last year were very enthusiastic. bobby is keeping a low profile so it's hard to say but there is ample time for him to make a decision. "
duhast wrote on Jul 13, 2009 4:54 PM:
" I have a feeling Jindhal is gearing up for a run. I was going to mention him in my last post, but couldn't remember his name... Do you think Ron Paul will give it another shot?? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 4:35 PM:
" Big Mouth, i was not familiar with this rep. but after listening to the video on her website and viewing her position on the issues, i can say she's quite impressive. i think mccain may have stood a chance with her as a running mate and perhaps the 2012 candidate may consider her. i think she would most definitely be an asset. "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 13, 2009 4:15 PM:
" lilmurm:
Research Rep. Lynn Jenkins from Kansas. I would have bet 100 bucks that this was going to be McCain's running mate. Lady has it together, maybe that is why she wan't chosen or REFUSED. "
Research Rep. Lynn Jenkins from Kansas. I would have bet 100 bucks that this was going to be McCain's running mate. Lady has it together, maybe that is why she wan't chosen or REFUSED. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 3:29 PM:
" goofus, i would actually like to see senator Jim DeMint from south carolina run and personally suggested that to him. your thoughts? "
goofus wrote on Jul 13, 2009 3:12 PM:
" Hey chung lee, sorry about the time difference between my last post, But I have to work for a living.The question is not who the republicans run in the next presidential election, my preference is bobby jindhal, but how bad Osama will screw up the economy that george bush would beat him. We are going into a dark age with osama, everything this country was founded on is going out the window!@ May the government rescind your work permit . "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 11:35 AM:
" geithner, secretary of the treasury who overseas the IRS is either ignorant (honest mistake) or dishonest. one cannot have it both ways and frankly, either scenario is disturbing for anyone in his position. it's funny how a liberal family who is wealthy is "a family of means" but if a conservative is well off, they're greedy and lower than pond scum. very hypocritical. these very same capitalists who assisted the poor in indonesia, contributing to ann soetero's endeavors are the same ones that barry bashes daily in his assault on the free market. amazing. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 11:28 AM:
" as for verifying the sleep away camp issue, there was an op ed piece in the washington post 1/14/09 alluding to the fact that someone in his position should have known better. is anyone going to accept the challenge to do an investigative background check on rosa brooks or carol browner so see just whom barry is appointing to top positions? "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 13, 2009 11:27 AM:
" lilmurm-
Geithner's background tells me that his is a family of means that valued a great education for their kids and living a dynamic, interesting life. That is something we should applaud not bemoan. It also tells me that Tim is a human being like all of us.
I am sitting here wondering what could be written about your life story on Wikipedia, lilmurm. What skeletons are in your closet and how do they compare to his? What accomplishments are in your story and how do they compare to his?
I'll say it again, your comments and those like yours, as well as Ric Hills' sign tell the world in a clear strong voice that you are irrational, unreasonable, misinformed, uninformed, paranoid, xenophobic, extremist, easily manipulated, and petty members of the far right lunatic fringe.
With that being said I do very much wish you well personally. I hope that one day you will be in a situation in which you will be forced to challenge your assumptions and will be able to see the world in a more rational manner. You kind of remind me of Ebeneezer Scrooge before the ghostly visits, blind to your own misconceptions about the world around you. "
Geithner's background tells me that his is a family of means that valued a great education for their kids and living a dynamic, interesting life. That is something we should applaud not bemoan. It also tells me that Tim is a human being like all of us.
I am sitting here wondering what could be written about your life story on Wikipedia, lilmurm. What skeletons are in your closet and how do they compare to his? What accomplishments are in your story and how do they compare to his?
I'll say it again, your comments and those like yours, as well as Ric Hills' sign tell the world in a clear strong voice that you are irrational, unreasonable, misinformed, uninformed, paranoid, xenophobic, extremist, easily manipulated, and petty members of the far right lunatic fringe.
With that being said I do very much wish you well personally. I hope that one day you will be in a situation in which you will be forced to challenge your assumptions and will be able to see the world in a more rational manner. You kind of remind me of Ebeneezer Scrooge before the ghostly visits, blind to your own misconceptions about the world around you. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 11:16 AM:
" i didn't know that wikipedia information could be edited at will so i googled peter geithner and ann soetero which brought up a NYT article 1/15/09 and there were other reputable sources referenced as well. gee, i wonder how much tim earned as president of the new york federal reserve bank since he's so fond of trying to dictate what others earn. "
duhast wrote on Jul 13, 2009 11:11 AM:
" John McCain specifically said that he wants open borders and illegal immigrants?? Wow, that’s a pretty dumb thing for a politician to say. You wouldn’t be paraphrasing and taking things out of context now would you?? "
duhast wrote on Jul 13, 2009 11:05 AM:
" Lilmurm,
Wikipedia can be edited by anybody. So, how do we know, that when you cite from it, you yourself did not go in and edit something first? Considering you have plenty of free time to do so. Would you stoop to such levels to “educate” people?? "
Wikipedia can be edited by anybody. So, how do we know, that when you cite from it, you yourself did not go in and edit something first? Considering you have plenty of free time to do so. Would you stoop to such levels to “educate” people?? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 10:56 AM:
" a wikipedia background check on tim geithner is very interesting. he was president of the new york federal reserve bank-you know, the powerful guys who can mess up and not answer to anyone. he spent most of his childhood outside of the united states in zimbawe, zambia, and india. he graduated from an international high school in bangkok, studying chinese. through the ford foundation, his dad peter funded microfinance programs in indonesia developed by none other than barry's mother, ann dunham soetero. when he was nominated for treasury secretary, he owed approximately $35k in back taxes and he did pay them back after the nomination with NO FINES even though he had owed them for years and knew of the delinquency. another slight problem he had was that he claimed his child's sleep away camp as a deduction and only day care would have qualified. now, either this guy is a crook or incredibly ignorant and he is running the agency that overseas the IRS? barry constantly surrounds himself with such misfits. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 13, 2009 10:26 AM:
" i just figured out folks why democrats love high taxes and that's because none of them pay taxes, at least not in barry's camp. i heard yesterday that there may be trouble in paradise and john kerry is calling for congressional oversight of barry and his handling of the afghanistan war. as leftist as barry his, he's still not left enough for his voting base who basically don't believe in any war. stay tuned. sotomayor's hearings beging today and the liberals are pushing repubicans to vote for her although she's been proven to be a racist and does base her decisions on ethnicity. for conservatives to be encouraged to vote yes because it might offend the latino populations is bogus. that analogy plays right into obama and sotomayor's support of affirmative action-vote for the minority even if they're not qualified. also, the republicans put out a RINO candidate, john mccain who advocates open borders and illegal immigration yet he still didn't get the hispanic vote so pandering to law breakers is unethical (democraps) and futile. i find it amusing that liberals here are admitting that minorities, who are the largest block of welfare recipients will compile a huge voting block. remember what has been previous said-when you rob peter to pay paul, you can always count on paul's vote. priceless!! "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 13, 2009 10:26 AM:
" Winston/Contango-
Tim Geithner has NEVER worked on Wall Street. NEVER.
He has worked in the public sector for his entire career.
And it was "W", not Obama, that told us to "just go out in shop" after 9/11/2001.
As usual your blind fury towards anything Obama has led you to make nonsense statements. "
Tim Geithner has NEVER worked on Wall Street. NEVER.
He has worked in the public sector for his entire career.
And it was "W", not Obama, that told us to "just go out in shop" after 9/11/2001.
As usual your blind fury towards anything Obama has led you to make nonsense statements. "
Julie R. wrote on Jul 13, 2009 10:21 AM:
" To "I": You ask what Jimmy Dimora has to do with this....I just tried to point out that the Democrat crook Dimora is now blaming the corruption probe in Cuyahoga County on the Republicans and Bush.
You say that Buff and I belong to the "it's not Obama's fault, everything is Bush's fault" party so it should make me look at Buff in a whole new way....
I think you have it backwards. First, I never said I was a Democrat and neither did I say everything was Bush's fault. Second, considering how you and Buff have been in agreement for a long time with your claims that there are no scams and conspiracies in CORRUPT Erie County (a.k.a. Erie-Cuyahoga County) looks to me like it's now YOU that is looking at Buff in a whole new way...... "
You say that Buff and I belong to the "it's not Obama's fault, everything is Bush's fault" party so it should make me look at Buff in a whole new way....
I think you have it backwards. First, I never said I was a Democrat and neither did I say everything was Bush's fault. Second, considering how you and Buff have been in agreement for a long time with your claims that there are no scams and conspiracies in CORRUPT Erie County (a.k.a. Erie-Cuyahoga County) looks to me like it's now YOU that is looking at Buff in a whole new way...... "
duhast wrote on Jul 13, 2009 8:25 AM:
" Lilmurm, denial ain’t just a river in Egypt. Seriously, the republicans (at the present) do not have a viable candidate. Of course they have a few years to try and get their act together. The republican party is fractured into different sects. None of which can seem to agree. Mitt Romney may be the only viable contender, but he can’t get the evangelical support that he would need. He has majorly flip-flopped from his Massachusetts platform to his national one and will be called on it. The largest rising voting block is Latino. By attacking Sotomayor, they are quickly alienating a HUGE block of voters.
However, justthefacts is absolutely correct. More and more youth are reaching voting age. They have become much more tolerant than past social conservatives. Any brand of conservatism coming from today’s youth would be fiscal, not social. As much as you cry and whine here, you MUST know that your brand of Republicanism is in it’s death throws. Bashing gays, non-christians, and non-whites will not win elections.
On a side note, I do have one challenge for you. Can you definitively prove that YOUR ancestors came here legally? Unless you are Native American, then I stand corrected. "
However, justthefacts is absolutely correct. More and more youth are reaching voting age. They have become much more tolerant than past social conservatives. Any brand of conservatism coming from today’s youth would be fiscal, not social. As much as you cry and whine here, you MUST know that your brand of Republicanism is in it’s death throws. Bashing gays, non-christians, and non-whites will not win elections.
On a side note, I do have one challenge for you. Can you definitively prove that YOUR ancestors came here legally? Unless you are Native American, then I stand corrected. "
6079 Smith W wrote on Jul 13, 2009 7:51 AM:
" For all you Obamabots who have assailed so-called ‘corporate greed,’ I’ve got an interesting tidbit for ya.
Obama just appointed yet another Goldman-Saks crony as the new U.S. ambassador to Germany:
http://www.thelocal.de/politics/20090702-20343.html
So can you count how many of those ‘evil’ Goldman-Saks Wall St. investment types that Obama has surrounded himself with in the WH starting with Treas. Sec’y Tim Geithner? Hum? "
Obama just appointed yet another Goldman-Saks crony as the new U.S. ambassador to Germany:
http://www.thelocal.de/politics/20090702-20343.html
So can you count how many of those ‘evil’ Goldman-Saks Wall St. investment types that Obama has surrounded himself with in the WH starting with Treas. Sec’y Tim Geithner? Hum? "
6079 Smith W wrote on Jul 13, 2009 7:41 AM:
" The economy is improving under Obama?
Allow me to give you yet another indicator - The Dow Jones Transportation Index (DJT).
The index helps to measure the moving of goods in the U.S. by rail and truck and contains the largest freight cos. in the country.
It’s pretty simple: If people ain't buyin', then the freight cos. ain't shippin'.
Year-to-date the DJT Index is at minus 20.31%
So, Obama wants people and cos. to spend and they ain't.
All you good Obamabots should max out your credit cards and borrow as much money as you can and then spend, spend, spend to help out poor ol' Barack.
When the DJT Index number improves - then it'll be a sign that there's the possibility of an economic recovery.
In a consumer-based economy like we ours, only the consumer can pull us out - get busy Obamabots, your master has spoken! "
Allow me to give you yet another indicator - The Dow Jones Transportation Index (DJT).
The index helps to measure the moving of goods in the U.S. by rail and truck and contains the largest freight cos. in the country.
It’s pretty simple: If people ain't buyin', then the freight cos. ain't shippin'.
Year-to-date the DJT Index is at minus 20.31%
So, Obama wants people and cos. to spend and they ain't.
All you good Obamabots should max out your credit cards and borrow as much money as you can and then spend, spend, spend to help out poor ol' Barack.
When the DJT Index number improves - then it'll be a sign that there's the possibility of an economic recovery.
In a consumer-based economy like we ours, only the consumer can pull us out - get busy Obamabots, your master has spoken! "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 13, 2009 2:31 AM:
" I'm not for slamming Palin, She is out of our lives. I'll slam McCain, I don't really care for Him as a Senator and the biggest share of Veterans don't like Him.
Democrats take a look. You don't like the Clintons' you chose O'Bama over Hillary. Talk about nut cases, Pelosi. What about Sotomayor(sp) I suppose She hasn't made prejudice remarks. Bill Maher has sure turned on O'Bama after endorsing Him.
Talk about nut cases, what about the New England dudes, mainly Kennedy. Our own great Governor and Representative who have switched back and forth on gambling. How about the peolple O'Bama was going to appoint, namely Tom Dashle, that had income tax problems. Don't forget the scenario that has played out in Barrack's own state.
I voted for Sherrod Brown, Marcy Kaptur, and Srickland. I've made many mistakes, that's just three but I will not vote for them again.
There sure is a lot of Republicans that one could ridicule and probably be on target but explain to me how Sarah Palin is affecting your lives. She's never been an impact to any of us. She's in Alaska, less than a million people, let it be. "
Democrats take a look. You don't like the Clintons' you chose O'Bama over Hillary. Talk about nut cases, Pelosi. What about Sotomayor(sp) I suppose She hasn't made prejudice remarks. Bill Maher has sure turned on O'Bama after endorsing Him.
Talk about nut cases, what about the New England dudes, mainly Kennedy. Our own great Governor and Representative who have switched back and forth on gambling. How about the peolple O'Bama was going to appoint, namely Tom Dashle, that had income tax problems. Don't forget the scenario that has played out in Barrack's own state.
I voted for Sherrod Brown, Marcy Kaptur, and Srickland. I've made many mistakes, that's just three but I will not vote for them again.
There sure is a lot of Republicans that one could ridicule and probably be on target but explain to me how Sarah Palin is affecting your lives. She's never been an impact to any of us. She's in Alaska, less than a million people, let it be. "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 13, 2009 2:07 AM:
" Buff:
Shows what you know outside the law books. When you try to correct a person make sure you are right. lilmurm's spelling of DIALOG is also correct. All you try to do is knit-pick and while doing this you fail to absorb facts. In your profession it's common to listen or read everything, decipher and make good decisions. Excuse me, it's Erie County. "
Shows what you know outside the law books. When you try to correct a person make sure you are right. lilmurm's spelling of DIALOG is also correct. All you try to do is knit-pick and while doing this you fail to absorb facts. In your profession it's common to listen or read everything, decipher and make good decisions. Excuse me, it's Erie County. "
I wrote on Jul 13, 2009 1:30 AM:
" Well, Buff, I've got to get up early for work in the morning, so, I'll say goodnight. If you've got clients to see, you should do the same. Oops, sorry. "
I wrote on Jul 13, 2009 1:24 AM:
" Actually, Buff, I don't believe that I indicated that I wanted to discuss the law with you. I simply stated that I enjoyed reading your statements about the law. It's when you go outside the law that you are exposed, but, you clearly wouldn't understand. Also, I occasionally watch MSNBC, when I need a laugh. Tons of independent thinking going on there. You remind me of Rachel Maddow(sp?). "
Buff wrote on Jul 13, 2009 12:58 AM:
" Hey i: I just read justthefacts comment from a little earlier. Talk about having your number. By the way, where in here did you demonstrate any ability to think independently? I watch Fox news and then read your comments; they are identical. Who "parroted" what? "
Buff wrote on Jul 13, 2009 12:53 AM:
" Sorry to disappoint. I'm not engaging in a conversation about the law with you, since you clearly would not understand. I'm simply giving my opinion of you. Better hide the laptop. "
I wrote on Jul 13, 2009 12:47 AM:
" Buff, I've often enjoyed reading your posts about the law. However, I've now come to realize that what you know, you've memorized from some law book. As for intellegence, not so much. "
Buff wrote on Jul 13, 2009 12:38 AM:
" I: I find it hard to believe that you are not on lockdown at this hour. What are you doing to the guards in order to get computer privileges? I can only imagine. And by the way, history will prove that it is Bush's fault. Don't throw away your Palin '12 thong. "
I wrote on Jul 13, 2009 12:24 AM:
" Julie R, I have no idea what Jimmy Dimora has to do with anything. However, you and Buff belong to the "It's not Obama's fault, everything is Bush's fault" party. Sort of makes you look at Buff in a whole new way, doesn't it? "
Julie R. wrote on Jul 12, 2009 11:59 PM:
" DEMOCRAT JIMMY DIMORA'S CONSPIRACY THEORY:
Dimora said "the federal investigation of possible corruption in the Cuyahoga County government is a political witch hunt fueled by the Republican party and is the fault of Bush!" Dimora also fingered his Italian-American descent as one reason for his woes and says all Italian-Americans should be outraged! Dimora is also urging the feds to launch an investigation into the feds!
Response to comment made by "I" on July 12, 2009 @9:50 PM: I do so think that Jimmy Dimora is seeing your little black helicopters......and whatever made you think that I am a DEMOCRAT? "
Dimora said "the federal investigation of possible corruption in the Cuyahoga County government is a political witch hunt fueled by the Republican party and is the fault of Bush!" Dimora also fingered his Italian-American descent as one reason for his woes and says all Italian-Americans should be outraged! Dimora is also urging the feds to launch an investigation into the feds!
Response to comment made by "I" on July 12, 2009 @9:50 PM: I do so think that Jimmy Dimora is seeing your little black helicopters......and whatever made you think that I am a DEMOCRAT? "
I wrote on Jul 12, 2009 11:00 PM:
" jtf, I don't believe that I have mentioned Palin, climate change, the earth's age, or religion in any of my posts. You, however, were asked to provide some of your own ideas, but, were unable. You did, however, "parrot" other democrats and their personal attacks on republicans. That's alright, because that is what America is coming to expect from the democrats. So, if you have no ideas of your own, perhaps, you can tell me the other parts of my original post with which you disagree. And please, use your own ideas. "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 12, 2009 10:36 PM:
" "i" you are a typical rightwinger...when presented with information from QUALIFIED sources you turn a blind eye. You go all ga-ga over that imbecile former Alaska Governor who doesn't read any newspapers and wanted to ban books. You castigate scientists whose LIFE'S WORK is studing the earth's climate. You insult geologists with your "drill, baby, drill" our way to energy independence line of horse manure. A good number of you think the earth is only 6,000 years old.
The GOP used to be the party of the establishment. Now it is more becoming the party of the ignorant, the paranoid, the anti-intellectual, the religious fundamentalist, the xenophobe and the misinformed.
Good luck with that coalition.
David Brooks wrote that Republicans have committed sins of commision to working folks with their economics that left them high and dry and commited sins of omission to intelligent people with their disdain towards science and thought.
The editorial is here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/opinion/10brooks.html
He is a Republican so it won't hurt you to read it. I promise. "
The GOP used to be the party of the establishment. Now it is more becoming the party of the ignorant, the paranoid, the anti-intellectual, the religious fundamentalist, the xenophobe and the misinformed.
Good luck with that coalition.
David Brooks wrote that Republicans have committed sins of commision to working folks with their economics that left them high and dry and commited sins of omission to intelligent people with their disdain towards science and thought.
The editorial is here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/opinion/10brooks.html
He is a Republican so it won't hurt you to read it. I promise. "
I wrote on Jul 12, 2009 9:57 PM:
" justthefacts, which Leo are you, Hindery or Gerard? If your answer is neither, then, these ideas are not yours. We'll just have to accept the fact that you have none of your own. Pity, Obama could use a few! "
I wrote on Jul 12, 2009 9:50 PM:
" Buff, I find it hilarious that you and JulieR have the same political affiliation. Maybe, you and she can get together for an Obama lovefest! You might even begin to see her black helicopters. "
MHL wrote on Jul 12, 2009 9:49 PM:
" So Let me refresh:
1)At 7:58 Lilsqwurm States "I figures in out MHL and Jusr The Facts must be on welfare." giggle giggle!!
2)At 8:23 states" Mitt would be a good choice.I would also support Huckabee,Sean,Rush, Bill or Ann
3) At 8:32 "From now on I will just present the facts and not get into silly childish ,foolish bantering with the likes of MHL or JTF."
Which statement does not belong with the other 2???
Lilmurm it`s time to ask mommy for your meds and a glass of water and go night -night.You have a big day tomorrow as Rush comes on at noon.Get some rest. "
1)At 7:58 Lilsqwurm States "I figures in out MHL and Jusr The Facts must be on welfare." giggle giggle!!
2)At 8:23 states" Mitt would be a good choice.I would also support Huckabee,Sean,Rush, Bill or Ann
3) At 8:32 "From now on I will just present the facts and not get into silly childish ,foolish bantering with the likes of MHL or JTF."
Which statement does not belong with the other 2???
Lilmurm it`s time to ask mommy for your meds and a glass of water and go night -night.You have a big day tomorrow as Rush comes on at noon.Get some rest. "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 12, 2009 9:47 PM:
" "I"
Read this article for some good ideas.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090713/hindery_gerard "
Read this article for some good ideas.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090713/hindery_gerard "
nomad wrote on Jul 12, 2009 9:44 PM:
" The world is going to end come 2012 so who really cares about anything ;) Lets all have a beer and just chill out. We as Americans have been thru alot, we will get thru this as well. "
I wrote on Jul 12, 2009 9:38 PM:
" Also, justthefacts, by 2012 America will be just about ready to elect anyone not named Obama. I can see the Republicans' campaign slogan: "Not just change, but, change for the better!" "
I wrote on Jul 12, 2009 9:29 PM:
" So, justthefacts, you don't like my ideas. Some liberals asked for some ideas for fixing the economy, so, I gave them some. I haven't seen any from you. You don't like the idea of deporting illegals...they're here illegally, why should they not be deported? You don't think they're a drain on government programs that are needed for legal citizens? Do you have a better way to get stimulus dollars into the hands of the people? Maybe you just don't like the idea of people having to earn their way. Don't you agree that the best way to fix the economy is to get people to start spending(putting people back to work), buying cars(reviving the auto industry), and paying their mortgages(end the housing crisis). How about a flat income tax, wouldn't that be fair for all Americans. You couldn't possibly be against something that is fair for everyone. So, other that following Obama in lockstep, where are your ideas. If you don't respond, we'll all understand. "
Buff wrote on Jul 12, 2009 9:16 PM:
" lilmurm: I agree about intelligent dialogue also, but first you should learn how to spell dialogue.
You are another example of how the Republican "spin machine" has inducted yet another ignorant member. You can't spell dialogue, let alone engage in one. "
You are another example of how the Republican "spin machine" has inducted yet another ignorant member. You can't spell dialogue, let alone engage in one. "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 12, 2009 8:46 PM:
" lilmurm- Liberals like me have hostility towards INTOLERANCE not towards Christianity.
It is the evangelicals and their leaders that have hostility towards Mormons and Catholics and Gays and Secular Humanists and Atheists and Agnostics and Muslims and Scientists the list goes on and on...
The average NON-Evangelical WOULD consider Romney...he proved this in Massachusetts. It is the EVANGELICAL wing of the GOP that is intolerant of his beliefs.
PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT AT LEAST ONCE IN A WHILE, LILMURM! "
It is the evangelicals and their leaders that have hostility towards Mormons and Catholics and Gays and Secular Humanists and Atheists and Agnostics and Muslims and Scientists the list goes on and on...
The average NON-Evangelical WOULD consider Romney...he proved this in Massachusetts. It is the EVANGELICAL wing of the GOP that is intolerant of his beliefs.
PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT AT LEAST ONCE IN A WHILE, LILMURM! "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 12, 2009 8:39 PM:
" lilmurm- So being the best you can be and despite coming from humble beginnings attending the best universities in the country (Barack-Columbia, Michelle-Princeton), being at the top of your Harvard Law School Class, devoting your life to public service instead of Wall Street and rising to the pinnacle of the nation is "anti-american" in your eyes.
What you fail to understand, lilmurm, is that your rants say very much about YOU and nothing about our President and First Lady. "
What you fail to understand, lilmurm, is that your rants say very much about YOU and nothing about our President and First Lady. "
44846GWP wrote on Jul 12, 2009 8:35 PM:
" Lilmurm, I'm guessing the Secret Service has a file on you. "
King of Erie-Lorain County wrote on Jul 12, 2009 8:33 PM:
" Dear lilmurm...do you mean Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly and Coulter? If so, are you serious, or are you trying to bait people into responding negatively? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 8:32 PM:
" now i understand what i suspected all along about some of the left wing radicals on this site that now explains a lot. there is an apparent hostility towards christianity which goes hand in hand with the left's ideology because you can't very well profess christianity and support their agenda. from now on, my intent is to post the daily stories that are exposing barry and let the posters make decisions for themselvs. i don't plan on getting into the petty bantering that justthefacts and MHL engage in so that the discussion can't be focused on barry. it's childish and foolish while accomplishing nothing to name call like a bunch of first graders. i will converse with intelligent dialog only. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 8:23 PM:
" i agree with you mikel about mitt. he would be a great choice but the primary choice was pretty much made by the time ohio voted in the primary. i would also support huckabee, sean, rush, bill or ann. "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 12, 2009 8:20 PM:
" Which Mitt Romney? The moderate to liberal Governor of Mass. or the "supposed" conservative of the 2008 campaign?
Keep in mind that the evangelicals won't get behind Mitt because Mormonism is even crazier then their fundamentalist beliefs in their eyes. Mitt doesn't have a "prayer" in the GOP primary due to the influence of evangelical nutjob preachers like Hagee and Parsley just to name two.
Remember, the GOP is dominated by irrational ideology and religion driven lunatics at this point. Until that changes you don't have a chance. "
Keep in mind that the evangelicals won't get behind Mitt because Mormonism is even crazier then their fundamentalist beliefs in their eyes. Mitt doesn't have a "prayer" in the GOP primary due to the influence of evangelical nutjob preachers like Hagee and Parsley just to name two.
Remember, the GOP is dominated by irrational ideology and religion driven lunatics at this point. Until that changes you don't have a chance. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 8:19 PM:
" my post has nothing to do with patriotism if barry destroys the US as we have always known it, there won't be much left and we can thank the obamanuts such as yourself for allowing it to happen. my patriotism is exactly why i'm fighting against barry's agenda so aggressively and any reasonable person would see that. you're the ones who want to remake america while i happen to think we're the greatest nation there is already. too bad barry disagrees. it seems there was nothing about our country that made his wife proud before his nomination and that is beyond ridiculous. too bad she wasn't proud of the efforts during the civil war that killed hundreds of thousands of soldiers freeing the likes of her ancestors. i'm amazed that so called patriotic americans can be aligned with such an anti-american family but nothing should surprise me at this point. if you allow barry to end the US as we know it, then you deserve each other. "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 12, 2009 8:10 PM:
" lilmurm- Thanks also for showing moderates and independents that extreme conservative wackos are NOT patriotic despite their flag waving and throwing around of the word "hero" like it's rice at a wedding.
Add your threat of leaving the USA with your mason jars filled with money to Texas Gov Rick Perry's talk of seceding from the USA and we get a true picture that you wingnuts really don't give a darn about your country or countrymen.
As for finding a more conservative place. Maybe the Taliban has some mountain village along the Pakistan/Afghanistan border that can accomodate you. Please don't let the door hit you on the way out.
I have read that there are some new and exciting drugs in trial now for paranoid delusions related to rabies and/or schizophrenia. Keep your fingers crossed. Perhaps there is hope after all. "
Add your threat of leaving the USA with your mason jars filled with money to Texas Gov Rick Perry's talk of seceding from the USA and we get a true picture that you wingnuts really don't give a darn about your country or countrymen.
As for finding a more conservative place. Maybe the Taliban has some mountain village along the Pakistan/Afghanistan border that can accomodate you. Please don't let the door hit you on the way out.
I have read that there are some new and exciting drugs in trial now for paranoid delusions related to rabies and/or schizophrenia. Keep your fingers crossed. Perhaps there is hope after all. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 7:58 PM:
" PS. i just thought of something. it now makes sense-are MHL and justthefacts on welfare? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 7:55 PM:
" wow, i certainly got the responses i expected. i'm loving this. and by the way, i'm hardly living off daddy's money-you must have me confused with someone else since i am an early retiree who actually worked all my life and planned ahead, no thanks to the lefties who would steal my money through oppressive taxation. those days are over. and if barry succeeds in destroying this country beyond repair, i will take my money and live elsewhere. can any of you liberals do the same or will you have any money left once he's done with you? blahblahblah. "
MHL wrote on Jul 12, 2009 7:28 PM:
" LILSqwuirm: Just curious? who possibley can be your serious GOP contender for 2012? "
kUrt wrote on Jul 12, 2009 7:26 PM:
" Hey ah big mouth. Realize that Germany got defeated twice. Realize that it took more than 2or3 countries to defeat her. A country about the size of Texas. Why? they were united in their belief. Remember this also - unless you are red-skinned your linage came to America like so many others. America isn't united because of so many factors. Chiefly because of greed imo. "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 12, 2009 7:26 PM:
" lilmurm- your 'serious' conservative (Palin) is/was a joke...your 'serious' conservative in the primaries (Tancredo) was even a BIGGER joke.
And think of how many white elderly GOP members will die off in the next 3.5 years and how many hispanics and other folks of color will turn 18 in the next 3.5 years and you KNOW that a 'serious' conservative with a mindset similar to yours has ZERO chance of putting together an electoral victory, let alone even get the GOP nomination in the first place. "
And think of how many white elderly GOP members will die off in the next 3.5 years and how many hispanics and other folks of color will turn 18 in the next 3.5 years and you KNOW that a 'serious' conservative with a mindset similar to yours has ZERO chance of putting together an electoral victory, let alone even get the GOP nomination in the first place. "
MHL wrote on Jul 12, 2009 7:21 PM:
" POOR LILsqwuirm I see you didn`t take my advice and get some sunshine today you poor deprived soul.
No there is no panic in my tone.Just pitiful laughter at your sad posts.
Keep in mind Ray Lahood is a member of Your party.
I also find it humorous yet childish how you refer to me as a she.( I`ve been using a urinal for 40 plus years sorry.) When you grow up and get a JOB and stop living off daddy`s money then maybe you can seriously debate politics . "
No there is no panic in my tone.Just pitiful laughter at your sad posts.
Keep in mind Ray Lahood is a member of Your party.
I also find it humorous yet childish how you refer to me as a she.( I`ve been using a urinal for 40 plus years sorry.) When you grow up and get a JOB and stop living off daddy`s money then maybe you can seriously debate politics . "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 12, 2009 7:20 PM:
" lil- "I" was ACTUALLY talking about rounding people up. You know, just like the Nazis and their collaborators did. And they started with the same xenophobic and paranoid and evil mindset that "I" appears to endorse.
I(me)was speaking satirically. BIG difference.
I'm not the one with endless conspiracy theories either. That would be you.
I ain't scared or scary. I am very tolerent. You can say whatever you want. Like I have said before, you guys just keep digging deeper holes for your "cause" every time you speak/write, throw a tea party or put up a stupid, pointless "impeach Obama" sign. "
I(me)was speaking satirically. BIG difference.
I'm not the one with endless conspiracy theories either. That would be you.
I ain't scared or scary. I am very tolerent. You can say whatever you want. Like I have said before, you guys just keep digging deeper holes for your "cause" every time you speak/write, throw a tea party or put up a stupid, pointless "impeach Obama" sign. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 7:13 PM:
" oh, by the way justthefacts. no one kicked 'serious' GOP b-tt last year because we didn't have a serious conservative contender. all we had was a RINO and since most of the country is conservative and independent, mccain was somewhat of a disappointment even to us republicans. the party must get back to conservatism and i think barry is putting the spark back into the conservative movement. if you were so confident of the next election, you would not be so bitter and angry towards your fellow posters. OBAMA DOWN 13 POINTS IN OHIO IN 2 MONTHS!! hahahahaha "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 7:00 PM:
" you know, the lefties on this blog are scary. justhefacts would like to ship "I" to germany and doo dah has wished me dead. boy talk about intolerance. i guess that's what happens when they're running scared. the more hostile they become, the more i'm amused because it shows the panic that real americans are beginning to see the truth about barry. recent poll shows 40% conservatives, 35% independents and the rest, you know......25%. the country is now becoming two to one conservative over liberal and it's all thanks to barry!!!! yeah "
justthefacts wrote on Jul 12, 2009 6:41 PM:
" I- too bad no one has invented a time machine yet. Because you and your idea would fit perfectly in Nazi Germany in the 1930's. I'd love to ship you there myself.
If you do happen to be a church goer you obviously aren't listening.
lilmurm and Big Mouth- Thank you for showing moderates and independents the depth of insanity possesed by members of the far right.
Re: Mr. Hills, he sure has the right to put this sign out there. The fact that it makes him look like a complete idiot is just the icing on the cake. Where was he last year WHEN IT MATTERED? Did he knock on any doors or make any calls on behalf of McCain? Did he donate any money to the McCain Campaign? Did he do ANYTHING besides put a "SARAH!" sign in his front yard and a "McCain/Palin" sign in his store window?
I'm guessing that the answers to my questions is A BIG FAT "NO". That is why us Obama folks and the Dems kicked some serious GOP b_tt last fall. And guess what, we are going to do it again in 2010 with the congressional elections.
Peace out...enjoy your stupid tea parties and hissy-fit pointless "impeach" signs...I guess you need something to keep you occupied while stranded in the political wilderness. "
If you do happen to be a church goer you obviously aren't listening.
lilmurm and Big Mouth- Thank you for showing moderates and independents the depth of insanity possesed by members of the far right.
Re: Mr. Hills, he sure has the right to put this sign out there. The fact that it makes him look like a complete idiot is just the icing on the cake. Where was he last year WHEN IT MATTERED? Did he knock on any doors or make any calls on behalf of McCain? Did he donate any money to the McCain Campaign? Did he do ANYTHING besides put a "SARAH!" sign in his front yard and a "McCain/Palin" sign in his store window?
I'm guessing that the answers to my questions is A BIG FAT "NO". That is why us Obama folks and the Dems kicked some serious GOP b_tt last fall. And guess what, we are going to do it again in 2010 with the congressional elections.
Peace out...enjoy your stupid tea parties and hissy-fit pointless "impeach" signs...I guess you need something to keep you occupied while stranded in the political wilderness. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 6:08 PM:
" sorry for the two typo errors in my post. i'll say it before someone else does. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 5:48 PM:
" Very good, Big Mouth. You have posted some very insightful ideas. Would you consider faxing your list of government improvements to our ohio representatives and senators? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 5:40 PM:
" i have some facts on barry's appointees that some may find disturbing, at least those who cherish our freedoms. his secretary of transportation, Ray LaHood is pushing for a per mile tax to raise revenue since americans are buying more energy efficent cars and driving less. this idea is being run as a test in several states. all vehicles would be equippted with a GPS and monitor the miles driven then the driver would be presented with a bill to pay the government since tax on gasoline will drop due to our driving habits. the system would also show where the car was driven, whether it was driven during peak traffic times and whether it was driven on superhighways or back roads. pretty scary stuff, don't you think? even the radical ACLU is throwing a fit due to the privacy invasion. next appointee to a high level pentagon post -meet rosa brooks. this woman is so radical most would not believe what i could write about her but i will tell you this. she was a special council to george soros' Open Society Institute and now has access to US defense secrets. anyone not familiar with soros, it would be beneficial to google him. a true enemy of liberty. last but not least, obama's pentagon now wants a tobacco free military because of health issues and rising costs. give me a break, please. i don't advocate smoking and have never been a smoker but these heroes who are fighting for our freedom cannot smoke because their government says they cannot? some reports state that there has been an increase of 50% for our veterans returning from afganistan and iraq. well big whoop. what are they supposed to do under such stressful conditions of multiple tours of duty? following the analogy of reducing medical costs, will barry now forbid medicaid and welfare recipients from smoking since we pick up their tab? of course not-the government doesn't even expect them to be free of illegal drugs, much less tobacco and we're paying for that usage as well, plus alcohol abuse. like i have said many times folks, barry and his merry band of nazi/socialists/marxists are chipping away at our liberties daily. we have 16 months to prepare in order to retake congress and neutralize barry's power. let's put it to good use. "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 12, 2009 5:11 PM:
" Probably the next Democratic candidate will promote Spainish, Ebonics, or some type of broken Chinese Language be spoken. These seem to be the languages most widely accepted by the Democratic Party. Instead of pressing 1, we'll be in two digit numbers before long. "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 12, 2009 4:59 PM:
" First of all, Europeans can be dived into two groups.
A) Those whose as##s we saved
B) Those whose as##s we kicked
Not once but twice! Nothing to appologize for.
Turning our Country around
1) Bring All our troops home. Not just from Iraq
and Afghanistan
2) Let the troops guard our borders
3) Round up all Illegals and export them. This was
done after WW1, WW11, and Korea.
4) Welfare recipients limited to one year just like
unemployment compensation
5) Limit welfare births to 2 times. Anyone can
a mistake, even 2, but 4,5,6, this is ridiculous
6) Anyone running for public office of Senator on
serves 2 years in the military
7) No foreign visits. You want to deal with us
come to America and SPEAK ENGLISH
8) Allow offshore drilling where other countries
are already drilling and let our oil companies
build some new refineries
9) Quit being the leader in this Go GREEN. Don't
abandon it but follow China's and India's lead
10) Do away with the Electoral College
11) No Senate hearings on sports related incidents
Pursue the real thieves who actually robbed us
12) Kick ALL Lobbyist out of Washington. These guys
are worse than mobsters
13) Close the United Nations and kick them out of
the United States
14) Stop all Foreign Aid. This might have been okay
when we had money, but we're broke. A large
amount of the money doesn't reach the needy
15) These Foreiners who operate the motels and stores
would start paying income taxes. Many get 8-10
years of free income tax, believe it or not.
I haven't touched upon foreign trade and foreign ownership of land and businesses, and many other areas of concern "
A) Those whose as##s we saved
B) Those whose as##s we kicked
Not once but twice! Nothing to appologize for.
Turning our Country around
1) Bring All our troops home. Not just from Iraq
and Afghanistan
2) Let the troops guard our borders
3) Round up all Illegals and export them. This was
done after WW1, WW11, and Korea.
4) Welfare recipients limited to one year just like
unemployment compensation
5) Limit welfare births to 2 times. Anyone can
a mistake, even 2, but 4,5,6, this is ridiculous
6) Anyone running for public office of Senator on
serves 2 years in the military
7) No foreign visits. You want to deal with us
come to America and SPEAK ENGLISH
8) Allow offshore drilling where other countries
are already drilling and let our oil companies
build some new refineries
9) Quit being the leader in this Go GREEN. Don't
abandon it but follow China's and India's lead
10) Do away with the Electoral College
11) No Senate hearings on sports related incidents
Pursue the real thieves who actually robbed us
12) Kick ALL Lobbyist out of Washington. These guys
are worse than mobsters
13) Close the United Nations and kick them out of
the United States
14) Stop all Foreign Aid. This might have been okay
when we had money, but we're broke. A large
amount of the money doesn't reach the needy
15) These Foreiners who operate the motels and stores
would start paying income taxes. Many get 8-10
years of free income tax, believe it or not.
I haven't touched upon foreign trade and foreign ownership of land and businesses, and many other areas of concern "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 12, 2009 4:51 PM:
" Hey doofus rant about Obama but who do the Republicans have to run in 2012? Ensign was a possibility- sex scandal, Sanford- sex scandal, Palin- Quit because the job was too hard. Chung Lee think that fat bald college dropout drug addict Limbaugh should run now that would be funny. "
goofus wrote on Jul 12, 2009 4:18 PM:
" Re chung lee, I don't know what csi index means, but coming from Michigan I don't doubt it, they have a hard time winning a football game and according to the drudge report their unemployment will soar to 20 percent, so you tell me Michigan supports Osama, what a bunch of maroons. I just keep on rallying behind rasmussen that says more americans don't like osama than like him. "
goofus wrote on Jul 12, 2009 4:10 PM:
" Excuse me, when she washes the laundry, it's an ancient chinese secret. "
goofus wrote on Jul 12, 2009 4:07 PM:
" Chung Lee never speaks the truth, when we washes clothes, It's an ancient chinese secret! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 1:03 PM:
" I, you're a great american. sorry but i didn't see your post when i posted mine. great ideas!! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 1:01 PM:
" thank you very much duhast but i've been on 4 cruises, all paid for myself. whatever you may think, this is not a "hobby" to me but a concerted effort to expose barry and the SR blogs are but only one venue that i utilize. you see, i think the future of our country and preserving our freedoms are worth the time it takes to study and discuss the issues. i also have a life but i'm able to spend more time than most on the blogs due to my recent early retirement. to chung lee, you're off the mark again. yes, the CSI may have gone up after the election with all the hope and change rhetoric but then fell after the despair and challenge reality set it. more news coming today about barry's transportation czar's ideas to tax us and limit freedoms for those of you who have not heard. later. "
I wrote on Jul 12, 2009 12:53 PM:
" This may upset some, but, my solution to our economic woes are as follows: Take what's left of the original stimulus money and pay legal citizens $500 for every illegal alien they turn in for deportation. This way, stimulus dollars are paid directly to those who want to work for them and can be spent on consumer goods, to pay their mortgages, buy new cars, etc. People could control the amount of money they want to earn. This would greatly reduce the number of citizens and non-citizens who are a drain on existing government programs. With the reduced number of illegal workers in this country, those on welfare, who are able, would take over those jobs at the same pay, with the government making up the difference to bring them up to a livable wage. A flat income tax would be implemented for all Americans as to be fair to all. This would reduce the need for many government programs, get the money into the hands of those who need it most, thus, spurring the economy, reduce the number of illegal aliens, and restore fairness for all Americans. The only catch: People will be expected to work for what they get. "
countrycowboy wrote on Jul 12, 2009 12:53 PM:
" Chung Lee I have a dirty onion ring for you to eat! "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 12, 2009 12:42 PM:
" Ah Winston engaging in yet another dishonest debate by saying "The Reuters/University of Michigan preliminary index of consumer sentiment fell more than forecast to 64.6 in July from 70.8 in the prior month, according to a report yesterday.’ YIKES!" Well let Chung Lee provide you with a little historical perspective so you don't sound so ignorant. So the CSI fell from 70.8 to 64.6 followed by a "Yikes"? Funny Chung Lee did not see a posting from Winston when the CSI was at 57.6 in October 2008 and then Obama was elected in November. So tell Chung Lee how this is so bad since it is up 7 points since Obama was elected. Chung Lee say these numbers are the facts and not opinions which so many of you right wing radicals prefer. Chung Lee not wrong on this one.
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Duhast wrote on Jul 12, 2009 12:38 PM:
" Wow, I've spent the whole weekend partying with family and friends and enjoying the water fest. B-day party today. Yet, here you still are. Some of you seriously need to get out and enjoy the summer. We should all pitch in and get lilmurm a cruise or something before her head explodes... "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 12:04 PM:
" hi winston, enjoy your trip and new laptop. for a minute there, i thought we had another intelligent thinker on the SR blogs but the more i read, it did sound like you. always enjoy your posts. have a good one. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 11:59 AM:
" the greedy want more at the expense of the needy? it's greedy to expect to enjoy the money that you work hard for and if you earned it yourself, how is that "at the expense of the needy"? hard working americans certainly don't steal it from the them. let's take a look at the "needy". some are truly needy and i am for helping them temporarily or the disabled but what about the majority? they choose: no education, no job, no responsiblity, no husband but have multiple kids anyway. what is wrong with this picture. you soon have generational welfare and that's what most clear thinking americans are against. i have also advocated that those receiving welfare be required to work or do some sort of service in return but the liberals are absolutely against that. let's just pay them to sit home. although no fan of his, bill clinton implemented welfare reform in 1996 which reduced the number of dependents by encouraging them to work but obama has already repealed it. can you ask yourself why, jimbo? the more dependent he can make the majority, the more votes he can secure. is that what we really want for our american culture? "
6079 Smith W wrote on Jul 12, 2009 11:53 AM:
" From POTUS Obama’s July, 11th, Weekly Address:
‘The Recovery Act wasn’t designed to restore the economy to full health on its own, but to provide the boost necessary to stop the free fall. It was designed to spur demand and get people spending again and cushion those who had borne the brunt of the crisis. And it was designed to save jobs and create new ones.’
‘Spending again’?
More than a decade of high U.S. consumer debt, over leveraged Wall St. investment banks and easy money from the Federal Reserve helped to place the U.S. and the world’s economy in the current financial state in which it finds itself.
For the first time in yrs., Americans have begun saving, spending less and paying down debt.
Since approx. 70% of U.S GDP is dependent upon consumer spending, if people aren’t buying things, then the U.S. economy is in trouble; Obama and his cronies can do little to change personal spending behavior.
And consumers’ faith in the health of the economy continues to fall:
‘The Reuters/University of Michigan preliminary index of consumer sentiment fell more than forecast to 64.6 in July from 70.8 in the prior month, according to a report yesterday.’ YIKES!
It’s not the true believing Obamabots that Barry has to be concerned about; it’s the independent voters that are beginning to lose patience with his neo-Keynesian borrow, print and spending lunacy.
The Obamabots believe that ‘Kind Leader’ can fix the economy and that they can ‘have it all’ without paying for it – keep dreaming.
Barry does not and never will have the omnipotence to suspend the laws of economics.
Remember: TANSTAAFL – There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.
(Yep! This is Winston Smith. I’m on the road for a while using my new laptop and the SR wouldn’t let me log in with my usual UN.) "
‘The Recovery Act wasn’t designed to restore the economy to full health on its own, but to provide the boost necessary to stop the free fall. It was designed to spur demand and get people spending again and cushion those who had borne the brunt of the crisis. And it was designed to save jobs and create new ones.’
‘Spending again’?
More than a decade of high U.S. consumer debt, over leveraged Wall St. investment banks and easy money from the Federal Reserve helped to place the U.S. and the world’s economy in the current financial state in which it finds itself.
For the first time in yrs., Americans have begun saving, spending less and paying down debt.
Since approx. 70% of U.S GDP is dependent upon consumer spending, if people aren’t buying things, then the U.S. economy is in trouble; Obama and his cronies can do little to change personal spending behavior.
And consumers’ faith in the health of the economy continues to fall:
‘The Reuters/University of Michigan preliminary index of consumer sentiment fell more than forecast to 64.6 in July from 70.8 in the prior month, according to a report yesterday.’ YIKES!
It’s not the true believing Obamabots that Barry has to be concerned about; it’s the independent voters that are beginning to lose patience with his neo-Keynesian borrow, print and spending lunacy.
The Obamabots believe that ‘Kind Leader’ can fix the economy and that they can ‘have it all’ without paying for it – keep dreaming.
Barry does not and never will have the omnipotence to suspend the laws of economics.
Remember: TANSTAAFL – There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.
(Yep! This is Winston Smith. I’m on the road for a while using my new laptop and the SR wouldn’t let me log in with my usual UN.) "
Bail Me Out wrote on Jul 12, 2009 11:51 AM:
" Bring our men, women and equipment back from Iraq and watch the economy turn for the better. No brainer. Who gives a crap what happens in Iraq. And if they get out of control, we just drop a bomb on the city. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 12, 2009 11:45 AM:
" RE:and reduce the tax burden on the wealthy so they can use their resources to drive the economy once again
That's what this is all about, the greedy want
more at the expense of the needy.
If you listen long enough, the wingnuts will let
slip, what the real issue is.
The problem with: "cut all the welfare programs".
If you cut all the "welfare programs" on Monday
morning, those people do not cease to exist.
The old "let them get a job" will not fly in this
"greedy ran it in the ground economy".
What are you going to do with the people?
When I posed that question to a wingnut on
the street, his comment was, "@#$%em, let em
starve". Now there is a solution to implement.
To go in without a complete plan is how we got
into trouble in Iraq. "
That's what this is all about, the greedy want
more at the expense of the needy.
If you listen long enough, the wingnuts will let
slip, what the real issue is.
The problem with: "cut all the welfare programs".
If you cut all the "welfare programs" on Monday
morning, those people do not cease to exist.
The old "let them get a job" will not fly in this
"greedy ran it in the ground economy".
What are you going to do with the people?
When I posed that question to a wingnut on
the street, his comment was, "@#$%em, let em
starve". Now there is a solution to implement.
To go in without a complete plan is how we got
into trouble in Iraq. "
mikel wrote on Jul 12, 2009 11:33 AM:
" fst, i don't hate obamass i just think that he is trying to do to much in such a short time. i would like to know just how many of our legislators have actually read all of the proposed legislation instead of just the first and last two pages. however, here are a couple of things i think needs some work,
-our gov needs to control spending. the gov is spending so fast it is spinnng out of control. our gov payroll is increasing and the gov has actually increased the number of employees by 6%. why? revenues are down yet it continues to borrow and spend.
-our gov should not have interfered with the auto industry. many analysts predicted the cost of the auto industry collasping would cost approximately $100 million. so far our gov has given the auto industry approximately $72 million and we still don't know how this will play out. it is also ironic that gm has indicated that it's going to decrease production in the us by 15% and shifting that to other plants in mexico and china. what a way to thank the american taxpayer. that is your tax dollars as well as mine. this was public knowledge prior to the filing of bankruptcy. why did the gov allow this?
-the obamass administration wants to increase taxes on tobacco products in hopes of discouraging its use. low and middle class america are the biggest users of these products. the gov wants cap and trade desparately. who will suffer the most from this? the low and middle class. even though there are estimates to its increased cost of anywhere from $165 to $300 per year many of these families simply can not afford this. obamass's campaign pledege of not increasing payroll taxes for low to middle class may be right but he is going to get you through the backdoor.
there are many more issues and i admit that i don't have answers but i just think the prez needs to slow down a little and let our legislators have time to do their homework on these issues. over and out and have a nice sunday. "
-our gov needs to control spending. the gov is spending so fast it is spinnng out of control. our gov payroll is increasing and the gov has actually increased the number of employees by 6%. why? revenues are down yet it continues to borrow and spend.
-our gov should not have interfered with the auto industry. many analysts predicted the cost of the auto industry collasping would cost approximately $100 million. so far our gov has given the auto industry approximately $72 million and we still don't know how this will play out. it is also ironic that gm has indicated that it's going to decrease production in the us by 15% and shifting that to other plants in mexico and china. what a way to thank the american taxpayer. that is your tax dollars as well as mine. this was public knowledge prior to the filing of bankruptcy. why did the gov allow this?
-the obamass administration wants to increase taxes on tobacco products in hopes of discouraging its use. low and middle class america are the biggest users of these products. the gov wants cap and trade desparately. who will suffer the most from this? the low and middle class. even though there are estimates to its increased cost of anywhere from $165 to $300 per year many of these families simply can not afford this. obamass's campaign pledege of not increasing payroll taxes for low to middle class may be right but he is going to get you through the backdoor.
there are many more issues and i admit that i don't have answers but i just think the prez needs to slow down a little and let our legislators have time to do their homework on these issues. over and out and have a nice sunday. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 11:13 AM:
" in order to "fix things" FST, we need to say no to cap and trade as well as socialized healthcare. these schemes will only further drag us down. we need to focus on the small business owners with tax cuts as well as corporations (to keep them here) and reduce the tax burden on the wealthy so they can use their resources to drive the economy once again. they're already unfairly burdened by the amount of taxes they pay. people are entitled to enjoy the fruits of their labor without government stealing it to fund the non producers. this was the vision of our forefathers. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 12, 2009 10:59 AM:
" poor MHL. i think she has had one too many adult beverages. the arguement by obama's sheeple is not the content of holdren's book but rather the means by which it was presented. he advocates forced abortions and ridding society of "undersirables". i wonder who these people would be? perhaps those with disabilities? sounds very similar to another maniac called hitler. i have no problem with parents having as many children as they wish as long as they take care of them and don't expect the rest of us to. if population control is the end result, then why is it that only americans in the united states should be limited while millions of illegls are allowed to settle here and destroy our resources and economy since their birth rates are many times that of americans with 70%-80% out of wedlock. does anyone else sense the panic in MHL's tone as she rushes to defend barry and all those around him as the agenda unfolds and is exposed. also, what about holdren's idea of a planetary regime which i believe is what barry advocates as well when he offers up US sovereignty to other world leaders just to stroke his ego, putting our security at risk at the same time. you also can't argue that his energy czar was a member of socialist international until her nomination became public and if you read of her smart energy grid, her idealogy is that of global governance thru energy consumption as well. you liberals either don't have the education, motivation or you are just too frightened to investigate barry's appointments and what their idealogies are on your own since you might turn up something that would shatter your opinion of your hero. FST, you ask what obama is doing so wrong. he's destroying the free market with government takeovers of the private sector which is not only disastrous to the economy but is unconstitutional as well. the auto companies should have filed chapter 11 bankruptcy which is a reorganization that many companies participate in but obama literally stepped in and in effect, became the owner. they're filing bankruptcy anyway so what is the point other than government control and billions of dollars lost? he knows nothing about economics. when in a severe recession, you don't create more debt in addition to what you already have. it's like shoveling sand on a beach with the tide coming in so he can either print more money with inflation as the result or tax hard working americans to death to reward the lazy or sell more of our debt to china. imagine-the united states of america is now for all intents and purposes, owned by china. these are actions that may take decades to reverse if ever possible. couple this with barry's appointments of those who have the one world order mentality and we may witness the demise of this great country. chung lee, as usual-you're off topic to divert the issue. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 12, 2009 10:21 AM:
" Chung Lee think if Republicans have such great ideas....why didn't they implement them when the controlled Congress and the Presidency from 2001-2006? They addressed none of the issues that we have today and as far as Chung Lee know they did no veto any of the spending bills.
Rice: Bin Laden is determined to strike
Bush: I think I will go on vacation to chop some wood on the ranch and play some golf
Chung Lee doesn't understand how the Republicans can be so critical when they messed things up so badly. "
Rice: Bin Laden is determined to strike
Bush: I think I will go on vacation to chop some wood on the ranch and play some golf
Chung Lee doesn't understand how the Republicans can be so critical when they messed things up so badly. "
FST wrote on Jul 12, 2009 9:51 AM:
" I`ll bet the same people on here who hate Obama after only 6 months in office believe and voted bush into a second term. Bush and all his corrupt GOB`s put this country in such a mess that whom ever got into office would have such a mess to TRY to clean up that it couldn`t be done in 1 term or even 2. I`ll even bet there are those of you who still think he was a great leader. Since so many of you thibk Obama is doing so wrong,what do you think he should be doing? You all say how and how much he is messing up,but I haven`t read anything about what he should be doing. You think there is a cut and dry solution to all of our countries problems. Lets hear what your ideas are on how to fix things. None of us really knows what is going on behind closed doors,which Obama is trying to open for us. I`m just interested in knowing how all of you well educated homebodies would fix things. Ok,lets hear it. "
MHL wrote on Jul 11, 2009 11:56 PM:
" Lilmurm: Great minds do think alike,but apparantly so do simple minds as you and your wingnut buddies have proven.
You claim liberals do not debate your "facts". You have yet to present any"facts " only paranoid right -wing hysterical lunacy. Have you ever heard the phrese "Don`t argue with a ignorant person ,You can not win!?"
You claim "The Main-stream media ignores these stories." I would think you of all people "being a Free-Market capitalist." would understand this nonsense only sells to the 25 percentile of what`s left of the Republican party.
I am also surprised you are astounded by some kind of suggestion of population control,"as absurd as ypur news source", I would think that someone that always rails against "welfare roles"and unwanted pregnancies would welcome population control to give you "taxpayers"some relief!!! I know your going to come back with abstinance and responsibility but you can`t have it both ways. (Unless your a Palin.)
Lilmurm tomorrow is Sunday, I challenge you to come out of your basement. Get some sunshine. Go for a walk or sit by the pool. Relax maybe enjoy a few adult beverages. I challenge you to clear your head ,take the day off!!!!!!!!!!! "
You claim liberals do not debate your "facts". You have yet to present any"facts " only paranoid right -wing hysterical lunacy. Have you ever heard the phrese "Don`t argue with a ignorant person ,You can not win!?"
You claim "The Main-stream media ignores these stories." I would think you of all people "being a Free-Market capitalist." would understand this nonsense only sells to the 25 percentile of what`s left of the Republican party.
I am also surprised you are astounded by some kind of suggestion of population control,"as absurd as ypur news source", I would think that someone that always rails against "welfare roles"and unwanted pregnancies would welcome population control to give you "taxpayers"some relief!!! I know your going to come back with abstinance and responsibility but you can`t have it both ways. (Unless your a Palin.)
Lilmurm tomorrow is Sunday, I challenge you to come out of your basement. Get some sunshine. Go for a walk or sit by the pool. Relax maybe enjoy a few adult beverages. I challenge you to clear your head ,take the day off!!!!!!!!!!! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 11, 2009 11:52 PM:
" i checked out john holdren on wikipedia and it pretty much confirms his radical ideology. in 1973, he advocated for zero population growth in the US (actually negative growth) because we had too many residents and he is a "global warming alarmist" from way back as well. let's see if i get this right. we should limit the population growth of america througout the decades because there will be too many of us. it's ironic that roe v wade passed in 1973 and we have since murdered close to 50 million babies. even so, while we reduce/murder our american population, liberal politicians encourage unlimited illegal immigration with lax border security and a refusal to enforce existing laws. see a pattern? hmmmmmm. what COULD be going on? conspiracy theory or critical analogy by free thinkers?? his "sky is falling" approach to global warming fits with gore's remark this week that the legislative steps taken recently on cap and trade is the forerunner for global governance. these people have a very dark agenda and it's all about control and loss of americans' freedoms. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 11, 2009 10:05 PM:
" Maybe it's just to see how many people out there
in blog land:
Have a problem for every solution.
When I served in government we had
"Mole hill people". When they came in
to work and found a mole hill on their
desk, they could turn it into a mountain
by quitting time.
In my country we would say to old what's
his/her name:
May the fleas from a thousand camels invade
your armpits. "
in blog land:
Have a problem for every solution.
When I served in government we had
"Mole hill people". When they came in
to work and found a mole hill on their
desk, they could turn it into a mountain
by quitting time.
In my country we would say to old what's
his/her name:
May the fleas from a thousand camels invade
your armpits. "
Buff wrote on Jul 11, 2009 9:08 PM:
" I haven't read one single post here, but feel compelled to say: Why make this guy relevant? He wans to impeach the President of the United States? let me know how that works out for him.
He is just another kook who should not have enjoyed his 1 and 1 half minutes of fame.
God Bless him for his fortitude. "
He is just another kook who should not have enjoyed his 1 and 1 half minutes of fame.
God Bless him for his fortitude. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 11, 2009 9:02 PM:
" jimbo's post does nothing but to underscore that most conservatives are offended by the same stupid, pandering actions of obama. if you follow conservative news sites, you will see his bad judgement and outright hostility to the united states without someone pointing it out to you. what the liberals won't admit is that these same stories are from national sources but the main stream media ignore them. i don't need "talking points" to show me what it is about barry that i cannot tolerate. i guess it's true that great minds think alike. what i do find interesting is that the democraps can never dispute the content of what we're posting, only attack the means by which it's presented. notice no one answered the question regarding the science czar's writings if they are indeed accurate. do you liberal bloggers here have a problem with this guy's ideology? "
captain gutz wrote on Jul 11, 2009 8:45 PM:
" kURT,
What's with reference to a Japanese file sharing program? "
What's with reference to a Japanese file sharing program? "
jimbo wrote on Jul 11, 2009 7:41 PM:
" BTW
Does any of the text look familiar?
Go back thru the posts below......... "
Does any of the text look familiar?
Go back thru the posts below......... "
jimbo wrote on Jul 11, 2009 7:39 PM:
" Would be unfair to quote from it, and
not post for all to see what I'm talking
about. "
not post for all to see what I'm talking
about. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 11, 2009 7:36 PM:
" This is the email, this is the kind of smear
that is being sent by wingnuts, and treated
as if it were gospel.
The problem is she got it, passed it on and
now it is being attributed to her.
The nice thing about the internet, no one
know the origin, so it takes on a life of
it's own.
This 4th grade teacher has said it all, and she was brave enough to attach her name to it.
April 17, 2009
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington , DC 20500
Mr. Obama:
I have had it with you and your administration, sir. Your conduct on your recent trip overseas has convinced me that you are not an adequate representative of the United States of America collectively or of me personally.
You are so obsessed with appeasing the Europeans and the Muslim world that you have abdicated the responsibilities of the President of the United States of America . You are responsible to the citizens of the United States .. You are not responsible to the peoples of any other country on earth.
I personally resent that you go around the world apologizing for the United States telling Europeans that we are arrogant and do not care about their status in the world. Sir, what do you think the First World War and the Second World War were all about if not the consideration of the peoples of Europe ? Are you brain dead? What do you think the Marshall Plan was all about? Do you not understand or know the history of the 20th century?
Where do you get off telling a Muslim country that the United States does not consider itself a Christian country? Have you not read the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of the United States? This country was founded on Judeo-Christian ethics and the principles governin g this country, at least until you came along, come directly from this heritage. Do you not understand this?
Your bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia is an affront to all Americans. Our President does not bow down to anyone, let alone the king of Saudi Arabia . You didn't show Great Britain, our best and one of our oldest allies, the respect they deserve yet you bow down to the king of Saudi Arabia .. How dare you, sir! How dare you!
You can’t find the time to visit the graves of our greatest generation because you dont want to offend the Germans but make time to visit a mosque in Turkey ... You offended our dead and every veteran when you give the Germans more respect than the people who saved the German people from themselves. Whats the matter with you? I am convinced that you and the members of your administration have the historical and intellectual depth of a mud puddleand should be ashamed of yourselves, all of you..
You are so self-righteously offended by the big bankers and the American automobile manufacturers yet do nothing about the real thieves in this situation, Mr. Dodd, Mr. Frank, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelic, the Fannie Mae bonuses, and the Freddie Mac bonuses. What do you intend to do about them? Anything? I seriously doubt it.
What about the U.S. House members passing out $9.1 million in bonuses to their staff members on top of the $2.5 million in automatic pay raises that lawmakers gave themselves? I understand the average House aide got a 17% bonus. I took a 5% cut in my pay to save jobs with my employer. You havent said anything about that. Who authorized that? I surely didnt!
Executives at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will be receiving $210 million in bonuses over an eighteen-month period, that's $45 million more than the AIG bonuses. In fact, Fannie and Freddie executives have already been awarded $51 million not a bad take. Who authorized that and why haven’t you expressed your outrage at this group who are largely responsible for the economic mess we have right now?
I resent that you take me and my fellow citizens as brain-dead and not caring about what you idiots do. We are watching what you are doing and we are getting increasingly fed up with all of you.
I also want you to know that I personally find just about everything you do and say to be offensive to every one of my sensibilities. I promise you that I will work tirelessly to see that you do not get a chance to spend two terms destroying my beautiful country.
Sincerely,
Every real American
P.S. I rarely ask that emails be 'passed around'.............PLEASE SEND THIS TO YOUR EMAIL LIST......it's past time for all Americans to wake up!
Ms Kathleen Lyday
Fourth Grade Teacher
Grandview Elementary School
11470 Hwy . C
Hillsboro, MO 63050
(636) 944-3291 Phone
(636) 944-3870 Fax "
that is being sent by wingnuts, and treated
as if it were gospel.
The problem is she got it, passed it on and
now it is being attributed to her.
The nice thing about the internet, no one
know the origin, so it takes on a life of
it's own.
This 4th grade teacher has said it all, and she was brave enough to attach her name to it.
April 17, 2009
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington , DC 20500
Mr. Obama:
I have had it with you and your administration, sir. Your conduct on your recent trip overseas has convinced me that you are not an adequate representative of the United States of America collectively or of me personally.
You are so obsessed with appeasing the Europeans and the Muslim world that you have abdicated the responsibilities of the President of the United States of America . You are responsible to the citizens of the United States .. You are not responsible to the peoples of any other country on earth.
I personally resent that you go around the world apologizing for the United States telling Europeans that we are arrogant and do not care about their status in the world. Sir, what do you think the First World War and the Second World War were all about if not the consideration of the peoples of Europe ? Are you brain dead? What do you think the Marshall Plan was all about? Do you not understand or know the history of the 20th century?
Where do you get off telling a Muslim country that the United States does not consider itself a Christian country? Have you not read the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of the United States? This country was founded on Judeo-Christian ethics and the principles governin g this country, at least until you came along, come directly from this heritage. Do you not understand this?
Your bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia is an affront to all Americans. Our President does not bow down to anyone, let alone the king of Saudi Arabia . You didn't show Great Britain, our best and one of our oldest allies, the respect they deserve yet you bow down to the king of Saudi Arabia .. How dare you, sir! How dare you!
You can’t find the time to visit the graves of our greatest generation because you dont want to offend the Germans but make time to visit a mosque in Turkey ... You offended our dead and every veteran when you give the Germans more respect than the people who saved the German people from themselves. Whats the matter with you? I am convinced that you and the members of your administration have the historical and intellectual depth of a mud puddleand should be ashamed of yourselves, all of you..
You are so self-righteously offended by the big bankers and the American automobile manufacturers yet do nothing about the real thieves in this situation, Mr. Dodd, Mr. Frank, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelic, the Fannie Mae bonuses, and the Freddie Mac bonuses. What do you intend to do about them? Anything? I seriously doubt it.
What about the U.S. House members passing out $9.1 million in bonuses to their staff members on top of the $2.5 million in automatic pay raises that lawmakers gave themselves? I understand the average House aide got a 17% bonus. I took a 5% cut in my pay to save jobs with my employer. You havent said anything about that. Who authorized that? I surely didnt!
Executives at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will be receiving $210 million in bonuses over an eighteen-month period, that's $45 million more than the AIG bonuses. In fact, Fannie and Freddie executives have already been awarded $51 million not a bad take. Who authorized that and why haven’t you expressed your outrage at this group who are largely responsible for the economic mess we have right now?
I resent that you take me and my fellow citizens as brain-dead and not caring about what you idiots do. We are watching what you are doing and we are getting increasingly fed up with all of you.
I also want you to know that I personally find just about everything you do and say to be offensive to every one of my sensibilities. I promise you that I will work tirelessly to see that you do not get a chance to spend two terms destroying my beautiful country.
Sincerely,
Every real American
P.S. I rarely ask that emails be 'passed around'.............PLEASE SEND THIS TO YOUR EMAIL LIST......it's past time for all Americans to wake up!
Ms Kathleen Lyday
Fourth Grade Teacher
Grandview Elementary School
11470 Hwy . C
Hillsboro, MO 63050
(636) 944-3291 Phone
(636) 944-3870 Fax "
jimbo wrote on Jul 11, 2009 7:24 PM:
" Just checked my email, got the email that is purported to be from a fourth grade teacher.
Ms Kathleen Lyday Fourth Grade Teacher Grandview Elementary School 11470 Hwy. C Hillsboro, MO 63050 Origins: This letter to President Obama...
...by a fourth grade teacher from Hillsboro, Missouri, named Kathleen Lyday. However, Ms. Lyday has disclaimed being its author.
An earlier version credits Franklin T Bell of
Columbia Maryland as being the author.
Let's see how long it takes for someone to
mention that smear email, and proclaim it as
gospel. "
Ms Kathleen Lyday Fourth Grade Teacher Grandview Elementary School 11470 Hwy. C Hillsboro, MO 63050 Origins: This letter to President Obama...
...by a fourth grade teacher from Hillsboro, Missouri, named Kathleen Lyday. However, Ms. Lyday has disclaimed being its author.
An earlier version credits Franklin T Bell of
Columbia Maryland as being the author.
Let's see how long it takes for someone to
mention that smear email, and proclaim it as
gospel. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 11, 2009 7:21 PM:
" sorry for the typo error-i'll catch it before you do. "believe". "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 11, 2009 7:19 PM:
" actually jimbo, this is on numerous websites but what's your point? ah, i beleive the words are diversion and attack mode-typical alinsky technique from his book "rules for radicals", barry's textbook. are you disputing that the quotes are in his book? to be honest, i have not read it but it should be very simple to find out. this is obama's science czar - you know, those radicals who are appointed and answer to no one. i think the electorate needs to be aware of the nut cases he is appointing since they have almost unlimited power. i'm asking myself if these quotes are accurate and this guy is in such a position of power, do the obamanuts have a problem with it and are they willing to come out in support of such radicals? it's so much fun to see barry's poll numbers tanking every day and we're only 6 months into the regime. LOL. by the way, conservatives don't have to make barry look bad, he does that quite well by himself but it's our mission to make the public aware since the media are in his back pocket so to speak. some in high places have seen what happens if you dare cross the great barry with his chicago thug tactics and all. too bad he won't show any of that assertiveness with our enemies who are willing to kill us. to them, he is barry kumbaya. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 11, 2009 7:02 PM:
" Wing Nut manual page 42:
You can make yourself or you candidate
look good by making the other person,
or candidate look bad. Lower the bar
as low as you have to.......... "
You can make yourself or you candidate
look good by making the other person,
or candidate look bad. Lower the bar
as low as you have to.......... "
jimbo wrote on Jul 11, 2009 6:53 PM:
" http://www.prisonplanet.com/john-holdren-obamas-science-czar-forced-abortions-and-mass-sterilization-needed-to-save-the-planet.html
This is the wing nut website that is pushing
the latest smear attack.
It's not new, just a rehash of an old smear.
It didn't work the first time, so they polished
the approach and hit it again.
If you don't believe the website, give them an
hour and it will be gospel on wiki..... "
This is the wing nut website that is pushing
the latest smear attack.
It's not new, just a rehash of an old smear.
It didn't work the first time, so they polished
the approach and hit it again.
If you don't believe the website, give them an
hour and it will be gospel on wiki..... "
DooDah wrote on Jul 11, 2009 6:16 PM:
" to lilmurn:
Abortion is a good thing. Too bad your parents didn't take advantage of its beauty! "
Abortion is a good thing. Too bad your parents didn't take advantage of its beauty! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 11, 2009 5:27 PM:
" Obama’s Science Czar Wrote Book Advocating “Planetary Regime” Which Would Require Mass Sterilizations, Forced Abortions
This is the scariest book report you will ever read. Zombie has once again truly done his homework.
These are the ideas of John Holdren, Obama’s newly appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology, i.e., Science Czar. In a book he co-authored in 1977, Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment, he wrote that:
• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation’s drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise [which would seriously jack with Cloward-Piven];
• People who “contribute to social deterioration” (i.e. undesirables) “can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility” — in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational “Planetary Regime” should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans’ lives — using an armed international police force.
There’s so much more. It’s hard to take in all the evil.
just an interesting article i came across today on several websites. "
This is the scariest book report you will ever read. Zombie has once again truly done his homework.
These are the ideas of John Holdren, Obama’s newly appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology, i.e., Science Czar. In a book he co-authored in 1977, Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment, he wrote that:
• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation’s drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise [which would seriously jack with Cloward-Piven];
• People who “contribute to social deterioration” (i.e. undesirables) “can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility” — in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational “Planetary Regime” should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans’ lives — using an armed international police force.
There’s so much more. It’s hard to take in all the evil.
just an interesting article i came across today on several websites. "
stephanie17 wrote on Jul 11, 2009 4:42 PM:
" i have just seen some other peoples post and they blow my mind. "
mikel wrote on Jul 11, 2009 4:39 PM:
" correction to stephanie as i meant to say "i hope you are not directing that towards me" "
mikel wrote on Jul 11, 2009 4:38 PM:
" very mature response chung lee. that is how dems deflect criticisim. tell me one thing in my last post that is not true. there were no opinions in my post just facts. specifically, chung lee, about obamass offering apologies to foreign countries. i viewed this with own two eyes on abc news and the whole world knows that abc news will forever kiss this prez's a$$ any time of the day or night.
stephanie..no where in any of my posts have I stated anything about race so hopefully you are directing that towards me. "
stephanie..no where in any of my posts have I stated anything about race so hopefully you are directing that towards me. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 11, 2009 3:57 PM:
" Chung Lee
Fortune cookie say, "wingnuts, just palin nuts".
Must be a typo? "
Fortune cookie say, "wingnuts, just palin nuts".
Must be a typo? "
stephanie17 wrote on Jul 11, 2009 3:20 PM:
" Just to all of you obamabots....
Racism goes both ways;] "
Racism goes both ways;] "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 11, 2009 2:44 PM:
" you know, barry must be incredibly stupid or a complete lunatic. america has done more FOR more countries globally than anyone else has. yet he apologizes for our carbon footprint and our lack of responsibility in the past. just how does he think a country produces wealth to spread around to these other nations in need? coummunity organizing just doesn't cut it and that's all he is familiar with. as i've said before, he is putting the US at a great disadvantage because china and india will not sign on to the ridiculous "green" legislation that obamaman favors. he will tax and fine our businesses into bankruptcy or they will move overseas and "global warming" won't be changed at all. meanwhile, china and india go merrily on, owning a little more of america each day as the produce that which we no longer can. i wonder how the european nations feel when he's over there making apologies for america when in fact, if it had not been for us, they'd all be speaking german right now. america was great and will be again as soon as this clown is out of office if there's anything left. but hey, he can always go back to africa and live after he made his millions here with the free market he so despises selling books. good posts, big mouth. "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 11, 2009 2:26 PM:
" I have two sayings that I think about often.
1) Only your enemies want to see you cry.
2) Things only gert so bad than it's a big da-da-n
joke. Laugh, because our state and country have
become one GIANT JOKE run by JOKERS! "
1) Only your enemies want to see you cry.
2) Things only gert so bad than it's a big da-da-n
joke. Laugh, because our state and country have
become one GIANT JOKE run by JOKERS! "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 11, 2009 2:20 PM:
" "apologizing to the world for past transgressions, such as obamass is doing now, is crazy." Sounds like an opinion to those who know the difference between "facts" and "opinions". Enjoy your "freedom" fries Mikel, but it souds like you would like to taste Chung Lee's tube steak. "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 11, 2009 2:20 PM:
" Winston-lilmurm-mikel
SMILE
I turned Republican because we all can't be on welfare!
How can Democrats stand up to terrorists when the can't face Fox News?
Democrat-Def.- One who is opiniated instead of informed!
Confuse a Liberal, Use Logic and Facts!
Annoy a Liberal, Support Yourself!
The problem with Socialism is you will eventually run out of our money!
If it sounds like Marx.... and acts like Stalin....
It's probably O'Bama!
Don't spread my wealth, Spread my work Ethic!
Finally, I'm a White, Straight, Employed, Male Republican! How else can I P@#s you off today! "
SMILE
I turned Republican because we all can't be on welfare!
How can Democrats stand up to terrorists when the can't face Fox News?
Democrat-Def.- One who is opiniated instead of informed!
Confuse a Liberal, Use Logic and Facts!
Annoy a Liberal, Support Yourself!
The problem with Socialism is you will eventually run out of our money!
If it sounds like Marx.... and acts like Stalin....
It's probably O'Bama!
Don't spread my wealth, Spread my work Ethic!
Finally, I'm a White, Straight, Employed, Male Republican! How else can I P@#s you off today! "
I wrote on Jul 11, 2009 1:45 PM:
" mikel, get ready for the liberal response: "You don't like what Obama is doing, so, you are a racist!" "
mikel wrote on Jul 11, 2009 1:27 PM:
" we are reaching blog numbers for the sr in epic numbers.
there have been stories, tales, fact and fiction wrote in here.
back to the main ingredient of this story.
facts are facts and who is to blame depends on whom one likes or dislikes.
some facts to consider:
-our gov is spending at a rate that america will never, ever be able to recover. this will burden generations for decades maybe centuries.
-corporate america has been invaded by our gov in unprecedented measures.
-there is no longer an american dream for people. as evidenced by todays news the legislature once again wants to raise taxes on americas wealthy. this time to help pay for universal healtcare. americas wealthiest 8% already pay 90% of all taxes. therefore, as mentioned, there is no longer a desire for many to become wealthy.
-in the last six months our gov has increased entitlements to individuals and is proposing more federally funded programs to help the "able bodied poor". the problem with this is once you start these programs it is almost impossible to reduce them or end them altogether..ie welfare, medicaid, ssi, food assistance programs etc
-issues such as cap and trade, and restrictions on manufacturing because of global warming will only hurt and drive business's away from america. for some reason we seem to be the only one's that must be held accountable while countries such as china, vietnam, mexico etc all talk a good game but rarely implement guidelines.
-apologizing to the world for past transgressions, such as obamass is doing now, is crazy. we have saved the skins of many of these same countries from their time of desperation and need. we continue to pump billions of dollars in aid per year to these countries yet for some reason obamass feels compelled to apologize. when is the last time someone from france said thanks for saving their a$$es in ww1, ww2 or vietnam. yes, vietnam, the french were getting their a$$es kicked over there too and we tried to play hero and bail them out. the french have caused us to lose more lives in military actions than any other country on the planet. can i get an amen on this one?
in my opinion these are some facts that one can hardly dispute. "
there have been stories, tales, fact and fiction wrote in here.
back to the main ingredient of this story.
facts are facts and who is to blame depends on whom one likes or dislikes.
some facts to consider:
-our gov is spending at a rate that america will never, ever be able to recover. this will burden generations for decades maybe centuries.
-corporate america has been invaded by our gov in unprecedented measures.
-there is no longer an american dream for people. as evidenced by todays news the legislature once again wants to raise taxes on americas wealthy. this time to help pay for universal healtcare. americas wealthiest 8% already pay 90% of all taxes. therefore, as mentioned, there is no longer a desire for many to become wealthy.
-in the last six months our gov has increased entitlements to individuals and is proposing more federally funded programs to help the "able bodied poor". the problem with this is once you start these programs it is almost impossible to reduce them or end them altogether..ie welfare, medicaid, ssi, food assistance programs etc
-issues such as cap and trade, and restrictions on manufacturing because of global warming will only hurt and drive business's away from america. for some reason we seem to be the only one's that must be held accountable while countries such as china, vietnam, mexico etc all talk a good game but rarely implement guidelines.
-apologizing to the world for past transgressions, such as obamass is doing now, is crazy. we have saved the skins of many of these same countries from their time of desperation and need. we continue to pump billions of dollars in aid per year to these countries yet for some reason obamass feels compelled to apologize. when is the last time someone from france said thanks for saving their a$$es in ww1, ww2 or vietnam. yes, vietnam, the french were getting their a$$es kicked over there too and we tried to play hero and bail them out. the french have caused us to lose more lives in military actions than any other country on the planet. can i get an amen on this one?
in my opinion these are some facts that one can hardly dispute. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 11, 2009 11:41 AM:
" jimbo, barry was going by his stepdad's surname, soetero so what is the argument here? he chose to legally change back to obama. the fact is, no one really knows who this kenyan is. "
Publius wrote on Jul 11, 2009 10:51 AM:
" Publius thinks that someone is full of Hu Flung Poo.
Conservatives are for free markets. This is not synonymous with low cost labor, nor is that a Conservative goal. What Publius (as a Conservative) is for is allowing a fixed labor supply (not flooded with illegal aliens) right pricing itself. That means labor costs will rise as high as demand dictates. When liberals advocate open borders, the labor supply is flooded and ALL wages fall. Publius receives wages too.
Publius thinks that unions are just fine. When two parties (union & corporations) dance together, they must live with the free market consequences. If they dance off an economic cliff, they are free to do so and should be allowed to do so. Since they have both danced off that cliff, they (union & corporations) should not be bailed out after-the-fact by you and me.
With a free market approach (devoid of government intervention) GM would be allowed to dissolve. Various plants and facilities would simply change ownership. Dilapidated plants would be liquidated, with the machinery used elsewhere in a more productive way. The workers (union or not) are free to stay or go dance somewhere else.
What is going on right now is a battle of who controls the means of production. Should it be the government or the individual? Call it Marxist leaning or socialist, if it is anything except the individual, we are no longer a free people.
Corollary? It is my analogy and I will make it as I like. How can I misrepresent my own equation? Publius was making an analogy. Back to my analogy…when government, on pain of punishment, controls an economy, individual business owners and corporations are SLAVES to government dictates. All they can do is avoid the government whip by whatever means. Too often that means collusion. Fascism was not created by corporations. Fascism arose from the labor class in Italy. The Confederacy was created by plantation owners. Hence, my analogy seems more correct than Hu Flung Poo’s.
Publius would like to ask Jimbo a question. How do we know you are not from Acorn in Chicago? "
Conservatives are for free markets. This is not synonymous with low cost labor, nor is that a Conservative goal. What Publius (as a Conservative) is for is allowing a fixed labor supply (not flooded with illegal aliens) right pricing itself. That means labor costs will rise as high as demand dictates. When liberals advocate open borders, the labor supply is flooded and ALL wages fall. Publius receives wages too.
Publius thinks that unions are just fine. When two parties (union & corporations) dance together, they must live with the free market consequences. If they dance off an economic cliff, they are free to do so and should be allowed to do so. Since they have both danced off that cliff, they (union & corporations) should not be bailed out after-the-fact by you and me.
With a free market approach (devoid of government intervention) GM would be allowed to dissolve. Various plants and facilities would simply change ownership. Dilapidated plants would be liquidated, with the machinery used elsewhere in a more productive way. The workers (union or not) are free to stay or go dance somewhere else.
What is going on right now is a battle of who controls the means of production. Should it be the government or the individual? Call it Marxist leaning or socialist, if it is anything except the individual, we are no longer a free people.
Corollary? It is my analogy and I will make it as I like. How can I misrepresent my own equation? Publius was making an analogy. Back to my analogy…when government, on pain of punishment, controls an economy, individual business owners and corporations are SLAVES to government dictates. All they can do is avoid the government whip by whatever means. Too often that means collusion. Fascism was not created by corporations. Fascism arose from the labor class in Italy. The Confederacy was created by plantation owners. Hence, my analogy seems more correct than Hu Flung Poo’s.
Publius would like to ask Jimbo a question. How do we know you are not from Acorn in Chicago? "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 11, 2009 10:48 AM:
" Winston, Chung Lee say and type not write. Chung Lee pretty sure that Winston type and probably writes his anti-establishment manifesto in spare time like unabomber Ted Kaczynski. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 11, 2009 10:43 AM:
" Below is a copy/paste of the original Newsweek
article. You will notice that Barry was a
NICKNAME, NOT HIS REAL NAME.
Barry Obama decided that he didn't like his nickname. A few of his friends at Occidental College had already begun to call him Barack (his formal name), and he'd come to prefer that. The way his half sister, Maya, remembers it, Obama returned home at Christmas in 1980, and there he told his mother and grandparents: no more Barry. Obama recalls it slightly differently, but in the same basic time frame. He believes he told his mom he wanted to be called Barack when she visited him in New York the following summer. By both accounts, it seemed that the elder relatives were reluctant to embrace the change. Maya recalls that Obama's maternal grandparents, who had played a big role in raising him, continued long after that to call him by an affectionate nickname, "Bar." "Not just them, but my mom, too," says Obama.
If it were not for spin, or outright lies, the
wingnuts would be dead in the water........ "
article. You will notice that Barry was a
NICKNAME, NOT HIS REAL NAME.
Barry Obama decided that he didn't like his nickname. A few of his friends at Occidental College had already begun to call him Barack (his formal name), and he'd come to prefer that. The way his half sister, Maya, remembers it, Obama returned home at Christmas in 1980, and there he told his mother and grandparents: no more Barry. Obama recalls it slightly differently, but in the same basic time frame. He believes he told his mom he wanted to be called Barack when she visited him in New York the following summer. By both accounts, it seemed that the elder relatives were reluctant to embrace the change. Maya recalls that Obama's maternal grandparents, who had played a big role in raising him, continued long after that to call him by an affectionate nickname, "Bar." "Not just them, but my mom, too," says Obama.
If it were not for spin, or outright lies, the
wingnuts would be dead in the water........ "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 11, 2009 10:21 AM:
" obama was known for a time as barry soetero but chose to take his biological father's name back of barack hussein obama and he discussed the decision in a newsweek interview. mikel, i wonder if anyone noticed that barry did not visit kenya, his father's homeland and possibly his as well. many believe it's because of the link between barry and his cousin Raila Odinga whom barry campaigned for a few years ago. there's a utube video explaining everything about the relationship and the very dark side of the kenyan revolution, apparently backed by barry. the video is "Obama Backs Kenyan Islamic Terror Regime". some refer to odinga as a communist muslim and it appears that he advocates safe havens for terrorists. i think the video is worth a look and let the people decide for themselves. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 11, 2009 10:16 AM:
" If nothing else was accomplished, this guy
provided the wingnuts a forum to spout
the hatred and propaganda, they are so
famous for.......... "
provided the wingnuts a forum to spout
the hatred and propaganda, they are so
famous for.......... "
mikel wrote on Jul 11, 2009 9:48 AM:
" well i see that our fearless leader obamass is visiting his kin folk in africa. man would it sadden me if he went on safari and a lion jumped out of the bushes and ...well you know. oh wait, then his evil twin joe would become prez..i will get back to you on that second statement. "
mikel wrote on Jul 11, 2009 9:40 AM:
" chung yung lee, what time frame are you using for 1 million + iraqis killed? through the saddam hussein era? certainly there has not been 1 million + killed since gw and gulf 2. "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 11, 2009 9:38 AM:
" kURTie boy, here's your morning turn-on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCRE9qOgbug&feature=fvste1 "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCRE9qOgbug&feature=fvste1 "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 11, 2009 9:29 AM:
" Chung Lee wrote on Jul 11, 2009 8:52 AM:
‘…what Chung Lee say…’
Correction: What Chung Lee ‘wrote.’ Try it again. "
‘…what Chung Lee say…’
Correction: What Chung Lee ‘wrote.’ Try it again. "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 11, 2009 9:07 AM:
" duhast wrote on Jul 10, 2009 2:26 PM:
‘The straw was the Zimmermann telegram urging Mexico to declare war on us.’
That was a total canard. Mexico was in no position militarily or economically to fight a protracted war with the U.S.
In his farewell address, Geo. Washington warned us about ‘entangling alliances.’
Wilson’s interference in a European war helped to set the stage for a greater war two decades later.
The major thing that has prevented another major war has been the doctrine of mutually assured destruction (MAD).
Iran or a radicalized Pakistan may tip that scale.
---------
Afghanistan is becoming Obama's Vietnam and the U.S. economy is his millstone.
The news media helped to create the Obama phenomena. Give them some time and eventually they’ll begin to tear him down for ratings.
The news media giveth, the new media taketh away. Blessed be the news media.
Watch or re-watch the movie ‘Wag The Dog.’ ‘Network’ would be good too.
We are a nation that in the words of the late Neil Postman is: ‘Amusing Ourselves To Death.’ (Great book!) "
‘The straw was the Zimmermann telegram urging Mexico to declare war on us.’
That was a total canard. Mexico was in no position militarily or economically to fight a protracted war with the U.S.
In his farewell address, Geo. Washington warned us about ‘entangling alliances.’
Wilson’s interference in a European war helped to set the stage for a greater war two decades later.
The major thing that has prevented another major war has been the doctrine of mutually assured destruction (MAD).
Iran or a radicalized Pakistan may tip that scale.
---------
Afghanistan is becoming Obama's Vietnam and the U.S. economy is his millstone.
The news media helped to create the Obama phenomena. Give them some time and eventually they’ll begin to tear him down for ratings.
The news media giveth, the new media taketh away. Blessed be the news media.
Watch or re-watch the movie ‘Wag The Dog.’ ‘Network’ would be good too.
We are a nation that in the words of the late Neil Postman is: ‘Amusing Ourselves To Death.’ (Great book!) "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 11, 2009 8:52 AM:
" Chung Lee see that the definition that you provided "reinforces" what Chung Lee say and shows that Winston will defend "re-enforces" as a typo which it clearly is not. Chung Lee 1 Winston 0
Hey Winston how about providing a link to the "only 2% of servicemen in the 1960's and 1970's served in Vietnam"? If you can provide a link you can tie the score at Chung Lee 1 Winston 1 but it appears that the score will more likely be Chung Lee 2 and Winston 0. "
Hey Winston how about providing a link to the "only 2% of servicemen in the 1960's and 1970's served in Vietnam"? If you can provide a link you can tie the score at Chung Lee 1 Winston 1 but it appears that the score will more likely be Chung Lee 2 and Winston 0. "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 11, 2009 8:49 AM:
" One of my favorite pictures of 'Barry the Great':
http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2009/02/02/they-say-when-parents-smoke-kids-smoke.aspx "
http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2009/02/02/they-say-when-parents-smoke-kids-smoke.aspx "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 11, 2009 8:28 AM:
" Chung Lee wrote on Jul 10, 2009 8:11 AM:
‘Winston a typo is a missing letter or interchanged letters.’
The word ‘typo’ is shorthand for typographical error. I used the term correctly.
Read the much broader definition:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=typographical%20error&db=luna
I’ll test my vocab, grammar and reading comprehension skills against anyone on this blog any day. I always tested in the ninety-percentile range.
FYI: I find reading your tortured pidgin English postings taxing, and therefore read few of them while also responding to them as little as possible. "
‘Winston a typo is a missing letter or interchanged letters.’
The word ‘typo’ is shorthand for typographical error. I used the term correctly.
Read the much broader definition:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=typographical%20error&db=luna
I’ll test my vocab, grammar and reading comprehension skills against anyone on this blog any day. I always tested in the ninety-percentile range.
FYI: I find reading your tortured pidgin English postings taxing, and therefore read few of them while also responding to them as little as possible. "
kURT wrote on Jul 11, 2009 8:27 AM:
" Don't forget Rob Perry either people. Before Obama, this yahoo tried his game on others. Guess that is what BIG money is about eh? See trickery & lying is never good. The people spoke & our president won. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 11, 2009 8:06 AM:
" RE: Barry
This is where the Barry comes from, it's going
around the republican sockpuppet underground in
email form, and is being used to promote the false
Barry name:
This piece originated as a April Fool's joke playing on unsubstantiated rumors that President Barack Obama is not a native-born citizen of the United States (and thus not eligible to hold the office of President of the United States). Even without the tell-tale dateline, however, several indicators give away this item as hoax:
* The article is tagged "AP," signifying it came from the Associated Press news agency, but the writing does not at all fit the standard Associated Press stylebook guidelines.
* Obama attended Occidental College in California for two years as an undergraduate from 1979-81 under his birth name of Barack Obama, not as "Barry Soetoro" (the latter is the surname of his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro).
Fulbright scholarships for foreign students are coordinated through the American Indonesian Exchange Foundation , which does not not fund Indonesians for undergraduate study in the United States (only for master's or doctorate programs).
* Occidental College has neither released, nor been ordered to release, Barack Obama's student records.
* Neither Britain's Daily Mail nor any other UK newspaper has published a front-page article entitled "Obama Eligibility Questioned" in 2009, nor has any such newspaper published an article consisting of the text reproduced above.
* Leo Donofrio's lawsuit challenging Barack Obama's eligibility for the presidency was denied a hearing by the Supreme Court of New Jersey back in December 2008. It has not been taken up by the U.S. Supreme Court. "
This is where the Barry comes from, it's going
around the republican sockpuppet underground in
email form, and is being used to promote the false
Barry name:
This piece originated as a April Fool's joke playing on unsubstantiated rumors that President Barack Obama is not a native-born citizen of the United States (and thus not eligible to hold the office of President of the United States). Even without the tell-tale dateline, however, several indicators give away this item as hoax:
* The article is tagged "AP," signifying it came from the Associated Press news agency, but the writing does not at all fit the standard Associated Press stylebook guidelines.
* Obama attended Occidental College in California for two years as an undergraduate from 1979-81 under his birth name of Barack Obama, not as "Barry Soetoro" (the latter is the surname of his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro).
Fulbright scholarships for foreign students are coordinated through the American Indonesian Exchange Foundation , which does not not fund Indonesians for undergraduate study in the United States (only for master's or doctorate programs).
* Occidental College has neither released, nor been ordered to release, Barack Obama's student records.
* Neither Britain's Daily Mail nor any other UK newspaper has published a front-page article entitled "Obama Eligibility Questioned" in 2009, nor has any such newspaper published an article consisting of the text reproduced above.
* Leo Donofrio's lawsuit challenging Barack Obama's eligibility for the presidency was denied a hearing by the Supreme Court of New Jersey back in December 2008. It has not been taken up by the U.S. Supreme Court. "
Duhast wrote on Jul 11, 2009 7:47 AM:
" Clinton may have had his zipper down in the oval office, but Bin Laden caught Bush with his pants down and (censored). There is nobody to blame, but those in charge at the time. It's like saying, "that guy wouldn't have run that red light Tuesday if the old sheriff had done his job last year". "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 11, 2009 2:38 AM:
" President Bush kept us safe? September 11th, 2001 who was president and who had a memo with the title Bin Laden determined to strike?
Mikel so nice to see that you are concerned about the reported 100,000 Kurds killed but what about the more than 1 million Iraqis killed in this war? Bush got the war he was looking for but unfortunately he did not plan to deal with it correctly. "
Mikel so nice to see that you are concerned about the reported 100,000 Kurds killed but what about the more than 1 million Iraqis killed in this war? Bush got the war he was looking for but unfortunately he did not plan to deal with it correctly. "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 11, 2009 1:38 AM:
" If O'Bama is so worried about Global Warming maybe he should stay home and quit embarrassing us all over the world.
Clarification to All!
The United States might have been defeated in Vietnam but not the Military. Check out the Battles and the Kill Ratios. It's an ugly way to state it but that is what the Military went by, "Numbers." We were mostly kept on the defensive which isn't a winning tactic for the superior force and not the way most wars have been won. We needed a ground assault on Laos and North Vietnam. You see the results when you get chicken s@#$ Politicians involved with the Military.
I haven't heard or read anything about or from Ollie North or Colin Powel, HAS anyone? "
Clarification to All!
The United States might have been defeated in Vietnam but not the Military. Check out the Battles and the Kill Ratios. It's an ugly way to state it but that is what the Military went by, "Numbers." We were mostly kept on the defensive which isn't a winning tactic for the superior force and not the way most wars have been won. We needed a ground assault on Laos and North Vietnam. You see the results when you get chicken s@#$ Politicians involved with the Military.
I haven't heard or read anything about or from Ollie North or Colin Powel, HAS anyone? "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 11, 2009 1:22 AM:
" Personal Attack??? I beg you pardon. I stick up for Ric Hill's spelling error and this is attacking Him? WOW!
kath2860
I doubt you thought Bin Laden was in Afghanistan after 911. If so, you should have informed the Military. Turn it into a sandbox?? Yes, you probably would vote for that but heaven forbid, no waterboarding. "
kath2860
I doubt you thought Bin Laden was in Afghanistan after 911. If so, you should have informed the Military. Turn it into a sandbox?? Yes, you probably would vote for that but heaven forbid, no waterboarding. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 11, 2009 1:16 AM:
" i just saw the video of barry in italy apologizing for america again because of our carbon footprint and our past failure to take responsibility for that offense. this clown just does not get it. of course, we are going to have more by products of manufacturing and industry but it is that innovation that has made the US the richest country in the world. at least that was true before the politicians sold us out to china and drove us billions of dollars in debt. it still has not been proven that humans are causing the natural warming of the planet and the democrats won't even allowe scientists who disagree with their agenda to have a voice in the congressional hearings. we have given more to poor and oppressed countries than anyone else because of our wealth and we're the first to respond to natural disasters, even for our enemies. how dare he blame us for the supposed global warming. does this idiot not realize that you produce some air pollution when you actually make something? maybe in the bahamas, the air and water are pristine but their only revenue is tourism. is this what we want for the US? barry is pathetic and will betray american interests so that he may boost his ego on the world stage, all the while world leaders are laughing at him. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 11, 2009 12:38 AM:
" was bill clinton lying or just naive when HE stated that hussein had WMDs? and don't forget that hillary voted to give pres. bush authority to attack iraq. if clinton would have stopped the terrorists all through the 90s, maybe 9/11 would not have happened but he looked the other way as we suffered attacks on the towers in 1993, as well as on our embassies and the USS Cole. he was busy doing what he does best in the oval office instead of protecting america and it took george bush to stop the attacks. i think radical islam found out that pres. bush was no pacifist and when pushed, he pushed back, HARD. intelligence reports stated that there were WMDs and hussein had many months to dispose of them while playing games with UN inspectors. iraq was also known for harboring and training terrorists and pres. bush viewed those countries as enemies of the US. barry is the biggest enemy of the US now as he panders to iran, north korea, china, russia, cuba and venezuala. he was playing all nice with the russian leaders this week only to have them say openly after he left that our missile defense system is not acceptable in europe. anyone believe he won't back down? "
I wrote on Jul 11, 2009 12:32 AM:
" Chung Lee seems very intolerant of posters with ideas different than his. Chung probably wishes he was back in China, where he could join in the beating and killing of the Uyghers. It would tend to explain his hostile nature. "
mikel wrote on Jul 11, 2009 12:25 AM:
" kath2860, no weapons of mass destruction! there are at least 100,000 dead iraqi kurds gassed at the hands of saddum hussien that say otherwise. "
I wrote on Jul 11, 2009 12:22 AM:
" vrsty2009, if "mission accomplished" were Bush's two most stupid words, then, "the stimulus has done its job" are Obama's. Does anyone, except Obama, really think the stimulus bill was a success? And now he's considering a second stimulus bill. If he and the dems try to force another spending bill down the taxpayers' throats, I think the mid-term elections will be very ugly for the dems and Obama can kiss a second term goodbye! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 11, 2009 12:15 AM:
" ok, vrsty2009. i'll explain it again. chung lee condemns the iraq war and rails against president bush yet says nothing about the democrat led vietnam war. 58,000 americans died fighting the communists who were supported/funded by china, chung lee's homeland. as i said, that explains his socialist leanings and support of barry's agenda. actually, most of the anti-iraq crowd on this blog has nothing to say about kennedy/johnson's war. america was not beaten in vietnam but on the other hand, our brave military was not allowed to fight to win. we could have easily destroyed the whole country but our young heroes were fighting a "police action" instead of a war-a campaign that the democrats "played at". the hippies back home marched against the action and fled to canada to avoid the draft while the veterans received a shameful welcome home. our military cannot choose their battles but must go where our government sends them. not too many people here backing them now either. "
44846GWP wrote on Jul 10, 2009 10:12 PM:
" Take a look at the second picture. If he can't spell baby how can he tell the President how to run the country? "
vrsty2009 wrote on Jul 10, 2009 7:31 PM:
" To lilmurm: You attack Chung Lee about how 58,000 Americans died in the Vietnam War... What does this have show?! Vietnam was a war in which there was no fighting for. After a while, the American people along with most service men didn't know why we were fighting in 'Nam. All Vietnam showed was that America could be beat! And it's the same thing that is going on in Iraq. The Iraq war will never end in an American victory. The two most stupid words from George Bush were "mission accomplished". What mission has been accomplished? That we caught Saddam?! That has done nothing at all! Nobody remembers George Bush for catching Saddam. For whatever reason of greed why Bush wanted us over there is unfathomable. It would have been ignorant to believe that catching Saddam would've stopped everything! But, however, I bet you think Obama is ignorant for whatever reason it may be. "
kath2860 wrote on Jul 10, 2009 7:05 PM:
" Big Mouth wrote on Jul 10, 2009 4:48 PM:
" Remember When!
After 911 what percentage of Americans wanted to go after Bin Laden and invade Iraq.
"Go after bin Laden" and "invade Iraq" are two different things and it amazes me how many sheep simply cannot/will not see that! Yes, I was in favor of turning AFGHANISTAN, where bin Laden WAS, into a sandbox. HE WAS NOT IN IRAQ! Nor were weapons of mass destruction. Remember when indeed! "
" Remember When!
After 911 what percentage of Americans wanted to go after Bin Laden and invade Iraq.
"Go after bin Laden" and "invade Iraq" are two different things and it amazes me how many sheep simply cannot/will not see that! Yes, I was in favor of turning AFGHANISTAN, where bin Laden WAS, into a sandbox. HE WAS NOT IN IRAQ! Nor were weapons of mass destruction. Remember when indeed! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 10, 2009 5:46 PM:
" i'm not attacking non whites, chung lee but rather communists and all they represent. let's not be dishonest in your accusations. "
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 10, 2009 4:56 PM:
" Moderators have removed this comment because it contained personal attacks. Discussion Guidelines
"
Big Mouth wrote on Jul 10, 2009 4:48 PM:
" Remember When!
After 911 what percentage of Americans wanted to go after Bin Laden and invade Iraq. I wrote articles then and was in the Minority. It just wasn't Republicans that were for War. Don't blame wrongful information either. I had no problem reading between the lines and I'm not defending Bush either. I didn't vote for Him either time.
As for O'Bama, get this straight, It's His 50% WHITE half I really Despise, His 50% BLACK half just doesn't have the experience. "
After 911 what percentage of Americans wanted to go after Bin Laden and invade Iraq. I wrote articles then and was in the Minority. It just wasn't Republicans that were for War. Don't blame wrongful information either. I had no problem reading between the lines and I'm not defending Bush either. I didn't vote for Him either time.
As for O'Bama, get this straight, It's His 50% WHITE half I really Despise, His 50% BLACK half just doesn't have the experience. "
44846GWP wrote on Jul 10, 2009 4:48 PM:
" Moderators have removed this comment because it contained personal attacks. Discussion Guidelines
"
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 10, 2009 2:53 PM:
" This guy look like modern day Geppetto. He probably have a little boy locked up in his cabinet shop teaching him how to be good Log Cabin Republican. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 10, 2009 2:47 PM:
" Chung Lee think there was something lost in the Zimmermann telegram......Chung Lee think it was a delayed invasion. "
duhast wrote on Jul 10, 2009 2:26 PM:
" Saw a very interesting documentary on the Lusitania. I believe the Germans suspected it of carrying arms and war supplies. They checked the cargo manifest and sent divers and subs down to her. Turns out they weren’t carrying illegal arms and the Germans were mistaken. So we aren’t the first country to declare ware because of WMDs and be wrong.
However guys, the US didn’t declare war until 2 years after the Lusitania. The Germans sunk 7 US boats. The straw was the Zimmermann telegram urging Mexico to declare war on us. "
However guys, the US didn’t declare war until 2 years after the Lusitania. The Germans sunk 7 US boats. The straw was the Zimmermann telegram urging Mexico to declare war on us. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 10, 2009 2:06 PM:
" Lilmurm thanks for not disappointing Chung lee. Attacks on homosexuals and now non-whites. Chung Lee thought you were trying to create a following with your information "propaganda". Chung Lee hate to point this out to you but your views only appeal to the 25% who make up the Republican core.
Hey Mikel nice rationalization, but take it a step farther. 4,000 US servicemen and over 1 million Iraqis have died in the Iraqi war......and what has that achieved? "
Hey Mikel nice rationalization, but take it a step farther. 4,000 US servicemen and over 1 million Iraqis have died in the Iraqi war......and what has that achieved? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 10, 2009 1:49 PM:
" i don't see chung lee debating the vietnam war. you know, the one where over 58,000 americans were killed fighting a cause funded by his communist homeland. you know, his background in china really sheds light on his socialistic views for america and his undying devotion to barry. too bad he didn't keep them both in asia. "
mikel wrote on Jul 10, 2009 1:36 PM:
" hmm, we declared war and lost over 40,000 lives because germany sank a cruise liner that ended the lives of 123 people. sounds like a good move on our part. the only way a dem can rationalize that i guess. this can be debated and will be debated for decades. just wanting to know if it was ok for clinton to send troops to bosnia to help stop the gov-civilian situation there? you see whenever a dem wants to criticize a republican (and vice versa)they should first look in a mirror and see that they have done as much damage to this country as the other has. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 10, 2009 1:11 PM:
" Mikel you might be interested in gaining some knowledge so Chung Lee will tell you that 123 Americans were killed in the sinking of the Lusitania. So tell Chung Lee again how the Germans never attacked the United States. Want to compare Germany to Iraq? We declared war on Germany and then attacked them. In the case of Iraq we accused them of misdeeds against their people and of having WMD's (which they didn't have but we do)then attacked them without declaring war on them. Chung Lee and rational people see the difference but apparently the revisionist neo-conservatives don't admit to the facts.
Kath2860 thank you for pointing out the inconsistency as well. Chung Lee get good laugh that Winston will continue to deny he is wrong. "re-enfoce" a typo. He must have learned if from George Bush......"they have WMD" and when we found out they didn't have them it changed to "they HAD WMD" How do we know they had WMD? Well Rumsfeld sold WMD to Iraq during the Reagan misadministration! "
Kath2860 thank you for pointing out the inconsistency as well. Chung Lee get good laugh that Winston will continue to deny he is wrong. "re-enfoce" a typo. He must have learned if from George Bush......"they have WMD" and when we found out they didn't have them it changed to "they HAD WMD" How do we know they had WMD? Well Rumsfeld sold WMD to Iraq during the Reagan misadministration! "
kURT wrote on Jul 10, 2009 1:10 PM:
" For kath2860. He(winny) lives in a log cabin. He is a Log Cabin Republican, not that there is anything wrong with that. "
mikel wrote on Jul 10, 2009 1:08 PM:
" countrycowboy, what you are saying is that we went to war with germany because their submarines were attacking our shipping industry right? kind of like the somalie pirates attacking our shipping industry. even though they don't have an established gov why can't we go to war with them? after all we did with germany for the same reason according to you.
yes, i am versed on the reasons, causes and effects of war. actually, my family lived in the german area during the war, so i am well versed on this issue. "
yes, i am versed on the reasons, causes and effects of war. actually, my family lived in the german area during the war, so i am well versed on this issue. "
duhast wrote on Jul 10, 2009 1:02 PM:
" Sure, It’s called taxes. You would hope they would pay them at SOME point in their lives. I remember in the Regan years, my father was laid off for a few years. He was an incredibly hard working man. I remember the free lunches and the government cheese. He looked everywhere he could for work and did a few temp jobs here and there. When the economy came back, he went to work and paid plenty of taxes. He paid taxes before his layoff. So, not everyone that receives government food is some deadbeat lowlife. BTW, he refused welfare payments, but we did use the food stamps. Three kids to feed and all… "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 10, 2009 12:54 PM:
" vrsty2009, if you're referring to woodrow wilson in your post as the one who fixed the depression, your history is a little "OFF". he was president from 1913-1921 and the crash didn't happen until 1929. he was a democrat elected by 42% of the popular vote and instituted the first federal progressive income tax in 1913. typical liberal. "
countrycowboy wrote on Jul 10, 2009 12:48 PM:
" Until you learn a forine language yourownselves leave Chung Lee alone. It is pretty crummy to make fun of an immigrants English. A few years back I was trying to hook up with these two summer workers from China who I thought I could make into hot ladyboys and I took them into Chung Lee's dump over there to eat and I was trying to show how smart I was that not all 1.3 trillion Chinese people speak the same dialect or language. We had these jokers called Meo in Cmbodia that didn't even speak Vietnamese and it was like ne village over, but I think there is like two types of Chinese, Cantonese and Szechuan which is more spicy or something. So I ask these two doods if they talk the same as Chung and they said yes and no, that he is from Southern China buthe speaks very articulate and elquent inChinese and was probbly a refined gentleman in China or person of substance. Think of that a true dandy cooking my Moo Shu pork. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 10, 2009 12:45 PM:
" poverty guidelines are similar in all the states. duhast won't answer the question of should the parents be required to pay back the government in some way for supporting their kids? any liberals checked out the ODJFS website yet? come on- be brave. you know, i don't recall too many american citizens dying from hunger before medicaid and food stamps became widely available so could it possibly be that parents did what was necessary to feed their families? perhaps 2 or 3 jobs if they couldn't survive on one? when the country had strong moral character and a solid work ethic, parents did whatever they had to. how many welfare kids is it acceptable to fund by the taxpayers-5,6,7? would you believe 13 and there still is not a limit? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 10, 2009 12:37 PM:
" hey mikel, the difference between the WWII european campaign and vietnam, etc is that the democrats led us into those wars and a republican led us into iraq. they have selective "outrage". "
countrycowboy wrote on Jul 10, 2009 12:21 PM:
" Mikel...do you have any sense of history or politics? It is true the USA was rather reluctant to go to war in WW1 and openly posted warnings against unrestricted submarine warfare in the newspaper and the Kaiser wrangled with a man named Bethmann-Hollweg and Falkenhayn over whether or not American flagged ships should carry war material while neutral. But when the USA went to war with Germany there were 58 U-Boats attacking American shipping. Meanwhile there is no government in Somalia. There are not consulate, there are not ambassadors, it would be hard to declare war on a country versus a regime. "
kath2860 wrote on Jul 10, 2009 12:20 PM:
" So, Winston, when Chung Lee or anyone who doesn't espouse your wingnut views does it, it is a grammatical error. When YOU misuse a word it is a typo? Typical Republican rationalization. People who live in glass houses................ "
duhast wrote on Jul 10, 2009 11:52 AM:
" Not to nitpick, but remember this particular case is in Missouri, not Erie County. Also, don't make the children suffer because the parents are idiots. "
iluvkauai wrote on Jul 10, 2009 11:50 AM:
" Yipppppie! I came on here to "check my traps" this morning and LILMURM took the bait, just as I knew would happen! (The BAIT was my posting from 9:28 pm last night.) Looks like good ol'Lilmurm was up almost all night blathering about it. I did this because I am hoping Lilmurm will maybe get carpal tunnel syndrome from typing 24/7, or maybe will have to take a few days off from mental exhaustion. Good day, dear wingnut! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 10, 2009 11:48 AM:
" the school meal and summer programs are based on income as it relates to the federal poverty level. when a family qualifies for one, they most likely qualify for multiple programs. you might want to look at the poverty guidelines and you'll see who is living off the government. it's quite generous. the website of ODJFS is an eye opener as well, showing just where your tax dollars are going. you don't even need to be a US citizen to qualify for most of these programs, including nursing home care. refugees in the US receive up to $2000 per month for close to a year when relocating here. most people have no idea. i didn't until i became familiar with the process through work. "
mikel wrote on Jul 10, 2009 11:46 AM:
" hey chung lee, did they? no, the germans did not attack us. so, if i understand you right..just because a country has the capability, such as your example with german subs, that gives us the green light to go war with them? if that analogy is correct, then what is your problem with the us being in iraq? after all they had the capability of inflicting damage to america. "
duhast wrote on Jul 10, 2009 11:23 AM:
" Why do you assume all of the children on the summer lunch program are on welfare? The issue was with an official who said "going hungry builds character" and you went on a crazy rant about wellfare and gardens. What's the old phrase about dishing it out and not taking it?? "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 10, 2009 11:17 AM:
" Hey Mikel you don't think it is possible for a country to attack another if they are 1,000 miles away? You might want to dust off the history books. There is a weapon called the submarine and they could sink ships exporting to Europe and killing sailors and destroying property. The Somali pirates are like the German government? Does Chung Lee need to say the difference is one is state sanctioned and the other is not? Chung Lee no think that so difficult to understand but now Chung Lee understand why the weak minded need their talking points. Only thing that is apparent is many of these right wing extremists lack the intelligence and intellect to think for themselves. "
mikel wrote on Jul 10, 2009 11:08 AM:
" jimbo i forgot that all of you dems never have any sarcasim in your statements.
lilmurm, you are right with your statements about the percentage of people on food stamps and using "our" money, that they receive with no strings attached, in ill conceived manners. for example, for you jimbo i will try to be exact with no deviation, i was at the grocery store, iga store for you jimbo, and the girl in front of me that had probably a two or three year old, sorry jimbo but i did not ask her age, was purchasing three 12 packs of pop, 2 pepsi and 1 dr pepper-two bags of cookies and two bags of doughnuts, they were iga brand. once the items were rung up she used her food stamp card to pay for these items. i am thinking what the he!!, how is this food any good for them not to mention the fact that she used cash to pay for a pack of smokes, kools they were jimbo. like the old addage states..give them an inch and they take a mile! "
lilmurm, you are right with your statements about the percentage of people on food stamps and using "our" money, that they receive with no strings attached, in ill conceived manners. for example, for you jimbo i will try to be exact with no deviation, i was at the grocery store, iga store for you jimbo, and the girl in front of me that had probably a two or three year old, sorry jimbo but i did not ask her age, was purchasing three 12 packs of pop, 2 pepsi and 1 dr pepper-two bags of cookies and two bags of doughnuts, they were iga brand. once the items were rung up she used her food stamp card to pay for these items. i am thinking what the he!!, how is this food any good for them not to mention the fact that she used cash to pay for a pack of smokes, kools they were jimbo. like the old addage states..give them an inch and they take a mile! "
vrsty2009 wrote on Jul 10, 2009 10:59 AM:
" This guy is an idiot if he thinks his effort alone will get the president impeached. Why don't you just shut your mouth and let the man do his thing. Right-winged conservatives already had their 8 years to ruin this country, they just don't want to see another democrat fix it... AGAIN! Herbert Hoover did nothing during The Great Depression! Old Woodrow came in and fixed it though. It'll be an almost exact repeat of situations. However, conservatives can't stand the fact that a liberal will again fix our nations problems! Nobody did anything like this when Bush was president, there's no need for it now! "
jimbo wrote on Jul 10, 2009 10:55 AM:
" RE:mikel wrote on Jul 10, 2009 10:14 AM:umm, jimbo you are an idiot for thinking that i like to see people killed
If you expect people to take your posts at face
value, then take the time to proof read your own
posts, so that the greed doesn't show and you don't
include statements: "nice to see yesterday that there were 60 people killed in iraq".
No capital I on that machine...........
Over and Out. "
If you expect people to take your posts at face
value, then take the time to proof read your own
posts, so that the greed doesn't show and you don't
include statements: "nice to see yesterday that there were 60 people killed in iraq".
No capital I on that machine...........
Over and Out. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 10, 2009 10:53 AM:
" jimbo, mikel was stating the irony of the truth with sarcasm to make a point. 60 deaths in a "stablized" area? when pres bush was in office, the media relentlessly posted the daily deaths in iraq as headlines in order to embarrass/shame him and in doing so, were using our young heroes as pawns. like it or not, barry now owns these wars and he too must face the consequences. this will be difficult for him because his ego causes him to make decisions based on favorability ratings where as pres. bush made decisions that cost him his political reputation because he felt they were right. the difference is between having character and a rock star mentality. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 10, 2009 10:30 AM:
" PS, duhast. i worked in an industry where i dealt with the welfare population daily and my 90% figure for addiction/wasteful spending by them is a conservative estimate, i can assure you. what do you base YOUR argument on if you're disputing this statistic? my comments only underscored the fact that these "victims" do absolutely nothing to better their situations because it's not expected. i believe we should help those who fall on hard times for a period while they get back on their feet but do you have any idea how many generational welfare familes we have in erie county alone? as far as the community gardens, do you have a problem with them? what if sandusky took all the empty, overgrown lots in town and allowed residents to grow fruits and vegetables on the plots. would you expect the families receiving food stamps to participate or would that be too cruel and unfeeling? the slang for this concept in tough love and many parents use it on their children to foster responsibility so why not use it to motivate lazy parents. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 10, 2009 10:20 AM:
" no one is advocating 5-9 year old kids working but if their parents get free handouts from the government, then they should somehow give back. isn't that what barry always preaches? community service. if mom and dad refuse to work, then they should be required to do "volunteer" work of some sort. you liberals will never expect americans to take care of themselves, will you? i guess some of you are too young to remember a time before government came running to rescue every aspect of your life. you think this is compassionate but it only enslaves the poor into the mentality that they have no other options and stifles ambition for a better life by working. it's just like the katrina victim mentality-welfare recipients were dependent on government for generations and when the disaster hit, most did nothing to help themselves, including getting out of the city. then they complained for 3 years even though they were still being fully supported. i saw a documentary on the 1927 flood which devastated untold families and do you know how much federal money was spent? zero. americans always knew it was up to them to make things happen, no matter how bad it got. that is, until FDR restructured our retirements and 1965 when LBJ introduced medicaid and medicare. both democrats. "
mikel wrote on Jul 10, 2009 10:14 AM:
" umm, jimbo you are an idiot for thinking that i like to see people killed. my point is that while we were in that specific village we had secured it. once it has been turned over to the iraqi forces they are unable to keep control as they do not have a military as strong as ours. duh.
countrycowboy..germany declared war on us and they did what....attack america? no, they are thousands of miles away. so, declare war, big deal you have to get here to hurt us. did that mean we had to go over there and fight? they sunk the lusitania. so because of that we should have declared war on them? with that thought process we should have declared war on somalia for the pirates attacking and holding as hostages american citizens. "
countrycowboy..germany declared war on us and they did what....attack america? no, they are thousands of miles away. so, declare war, big deal you have to get here to hurt us. did that mean we had to go over there and fight? they sunk the lusitania. so because of that we should have declared war on them? with that thought process we should have declared war on somalia for the pirates attacking and holding as hostages american citizens. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 10, 2009 9:45 AM:
" mikel wrote on Jul 10, 2009 8:33 AM:nice to see yesterday that there were 60 people killed in iraq
Like that fact do you?
What kind of sick individual would enjoy seeing
people get killed? "
Like that fact do you?
What kind of sick individual would enjoy seeing
people get killed? "
countrycowboy wrote on Jul 10, 2009 8:41 AM:
" Mikel.....Lusitania, Ruben James....Germany declared war on the US a few days after Pearl Harbor. "
mikel wrote on Jul 10, 2009 8:33 AM:
" re jimbo: bush=iraq obamass=afghanistan and the difference is what? to categorize bush as a criminal for iraq, you would have to do the same to every prez who was involved in any kind of war. for example, why were we in europe for either of the the world wars? should the presidents at that time be held to criminal standards? after all we were never attacked by any european country. what about korea or vietnam? again, we were never attacked. nice to see yesterday that there were 60 people killed in iraq in a city that had been stablizied while the us military was there. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 10, 2009 8:11 AM:
" Winston a typo is a missing letter or interchanged letters. Chung Lee never see one with a hyphen and a wrong letter. "reinforce" vs "re-enforece". Winston, Chung Lee know it is difficult using there, their and they're but maybe your mom can help you but Chung Lee would not suggest getting help from guy in article or he will have you spelling all sorts of crazy words "babie". Chung Lee and most people would think that is not a typo. With your application......in Winston World there are never misspelled words.....just typos! Oh and by the way there was nothing wrong with Chung Lee statement, but if there was, it must have been a typo. "
duhast wrote on Jul 10, 2009 8:05 AM:
" Lilmurm,
You are a horrible person. Instead of properly responding to the school lunch comment, you went all out libel. Do you know these people personally? Do you live their lives? So, you would like4, 5, 9 and 10 year olds to work at McDonalds? What a jerk!
Some of your “fact” comments…
“i would venture to guess that 90% of welfare parents smoke, play the lottery and consume alcohol”
“do you think any of these welfare parents plant and tend a garden to help feed their kids”
“i too have a problem when taxpayers must be the breadwinner instead of the parents.”
“when these couples choose to have multiple children without benefit of marriage or a job”.
“the unmarried welfare dad walks scott free to impregnate one woman after the other with no responsibility at all for his offspring”
“don't breed 'em if you can't feed 'em” "
You are a horrible person. Instead of properly responding to the school lunch comment, you went all out libel. Do you know these people personally? Do you live their lives? So, you would like4, 5, 9 and 10 year olds to work at McDonalds? What a jerk!
Some of your “fact” comments…
“i would venture to guess that 90% of welfare parents smoke, play the lottery and consume alcohol”
“do you think any of these welfare parents plant and tend a garden to help feed their kids”
“i too have a problem when taxpayers must be the breadwinner instead of the parents.”
“when these couples choose to have multiple children without benefit of marriage or a job”.
“the unmarried welfare dad walks scott free to impregnate one woman after the other with no responsibility at all for his offspring”
“don't breed 'em if you can't feed 'em” "
kURT wrote on Jul 10, 2009 7:58 AM:
" See..you are like many Americans ..weak. You got my post deleted because of how I stated about hitting the jaw of a person with my rifle . You are like Chaney & his butt buddy Rush - cowards. "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 10, 2009 7:49 AM:
" kURT wrote on Jul 10, 2009 7:23 AM:
" Look winny just because you are a Log Cabin Republican. "
Good morning Lil’ Miss Sunshine!
So tell me, do you meet a lot of your 'boys' at the gym? "
" Look winny just because you are a Log Cabin Republican. "
Good morning Lil’ Miss Sunshine!
So tell me, do you meet a lot of your 'boys' at the gym? "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 10, 2009 7:37 AM:
" jimbo wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:07 PM:
‘If my taxes go up to help the US a better place
for all, so be it.’
Why not start by giving back your SS check and declining your Medicare coverage like so many of your fellow socialist-minded posters have suggested for others?
Pyramid schemes like SS, Medicare and Medicaid tend only to benefit those who get in on them in the beginning.
Now Obama and his merry band of Democratic nuts want another pyramid scheme in the form of universal health care.
As a thief, Bernie Madoff was a piker compared to what Obama and his fellow socialist ilk has in store for the U.S. "
‘If my taxes go up to help the US a better place
for all, so be it.’
Why not start by giving back your SS check and declining your Medicare coverage like so many of your fellow socialist-minded posters have suggested for others?
Pyramid schemes like SS, Medicare and Medicaid tend only to benefit those who get in on them in the beginning.
Now Obama and his merry band of Democratic nuts want another pyramid scheme in the form of universal health care.
As a thief, Bernie Madoff was a piker compared to what Obama and his fellow socialist ilk has in store for the U.S. "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 10, 2009 7:16 AM:
" kURT wrote on Jul 8, 2009 7:22 PM:
‘ Hey winny.......thanks for all the laughter. During my dinner, one of the guys at work saw what you said to me. My co-worker replied, "Is that guy winston a moron?" I said - yes.’
Good to know that you don’t work with anyone smarter than yourself.
Which hotel do you and your lover use after work? Does he allow you to pretend that you’re the man sometimes? "
‘ Hey winny.......thanks for all the laughter. During my dinner, one of the guys at work saw what you said to me. My co-worker replied, "Is that guy winston a moron?" I said - yes.’
Good to know that you don’t work with anyone smarter than yourself.
Which hotel do you and your lover use after work? Does he allow you to pretend that you’re the man sometimes? "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 10, 2009 7:08 AM:
" kath2860 wrote on Jul 9, 2009 11:09 AM:
‘The PROPER way to write the last three words of your sentence is "they're worth it.’
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 9, 2009 12:18 PM:
‘Chung Lee wonder if Winston knows the diffenced between "their", "they're", and "there.’
Thank you both for pointing out my typo. Your attention to petty details is appreciated.
I noticed it right after I submitted it, but unfortunately the SR does not allow for corrections like some other blogs.
And, thank you both for also reading my postings so intently.
Continue to read and the day will hopefully arrive when your suffering from the liberal thinking disease will be alleviated.
BTW Lee: You’ve got a typo in your sentence as well – find it. "
‘The PROPER way to write the last three words of your sentence is "they're worth it.’
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 9, 2009 12:18 PM:
‘Chung Lee wonder if Winston knows the diffenced between "their", "they're", and "there.’
Thank you both for pointing out my typo. Your attention to petty details is appreciated.
I noticed it right after I submitted it, but unfortunately the SR does not allow for corrections like some other blogs.
And, thank you both for also reading my postings so intently.
Continue to read and the day will hopefully arrive when your suffering from the liberal thinking disease will be alleviated.
BTW Lee: You’ve got a typo in your sentence as well – find it. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 10, 2009 1:59 AM:
" you are correct, I. when barry was asked why his first "stimulous" bill was not working, he said that they misread the economy but yet when pushing the bill through, he said this was the worst recession since the depression. pretty hard to misread that, wouldn't you say? conservatives said all along that you don't fix a recession by creating huge mountains of new debt and raising taxes on the wealthy and businesses. anyone who passed a high school gov't econ class knows that. this is why his poll numbers fell 13 points in ohio over the past 2 months. wait til he tries to force cap and trade along with his socialized healthcare bill which will cost trillions more and move jobs overseas then maybe even the obamanuts on this blog will awaken. i would think we have several legal grounds for impeachment but you must remember: his minions control congress. "
I wrote on Jul 10, 2009 1:44 AM:
" I see that Obama and some of the dems are talking about the possibility of a second stimulus bill. Considering the failure of the first stimulus, they must be crazy! Insanity is repeating the same action and expecting different results. Isn't being nuts an impeachable offense? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 10, 2009 1:36 AM:
" the article i saw quoted cynthia davis as suggesting that 16 year old kids get a job at mcdonald's to earn money and receive free meals. i know the concept of young people working to help their families died about 50 years ago but it was not unusual for very young children to work on farms, deliver papers, milk or whatever to help support the family. if these kids in missouri are receiving free/reduced lunches during the school year, then the parents are most likely receiveing food stamps as well. why are they not feeding the kids with them? i would venture to guess that 90% of welfare parents smoke, play the lottery and consume alcohol which is not cheap while expecting taxpayers to feed, clothe, house, provide medical care and every other necessity for their kids. i believe she also suggested that the churches help which is where charity is supposed to come from. do you think any of these welfare parents plant and tend a garden to help feed their kids whether it's in the backyard or a community garden? i too have a problem when taxpayers must be the breadwinner instead of the parents. if you receive government handouts, then you should be required to work for them in return. i don't think this senator was advocating hunger but rather offering ways to combat it. when these couples choose to have multiple children without benefit of marriage or a job, the government in essense tells them that supporting their own is not required but mr and mrs smith down the street will be required to fund the expenses. when a married couple divorce, the law forces the non custodial parent to pay child support or face jail time. the unmarried welfare dad walks scott free to impregnate one woman after the other with no responsibility at all for his offspring. the welfare mom does not have to name the dad in order to receive all her free benefits which is totally bogus. don't breed 'em if you can't feed 'em. and no, i'm not talking about abortion. i'm totally agianst that. i'm advocating self restraint and responsibility and ( oh no) perhaps abstinance until marriage and a way to support a family but our society just isn't like that anymore and we have a nanny government all too ready to play mommy and daddy. "
King of Erie-Lorain County wrote on Jul 9, 2009 10:04 PM:
" I'd rather this country have a president who makes fun of the Special Olympics than one who's so mentally challenged that he's eligible to compete in them. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 9, 2009 9:30 PM:
" RE:mikel wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:52 AM:trace37, doodah, julier: please enlighten me and tell me just what "mess" bush caused.
Iraq "
Iraq "
Iluvkauai wrote on Jul 9, 2009 9:28 PM:
" It'd be pretty difficult to be a one-armed cabinet maker. I think Mr. Hill's left arm is simply shadowed in the photo. By the way, Obama's Special Olympics joke, WAS awful, but at least he apologized for it. That's more than you can say for a Republican state senator in Missouri who was against state funding to continue summertime lunch programs for low-income school age kids in that state. She said it would do them good to go hungry because "going hungry builds character". She still hasn't apologized for her insensitive remark against innocent poor kids and sees nothing wrong with what she said. Must be a conservative thing. Pathetic, no matter what you think of the woman's politics, right lilmurm? "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 9, 2009 9:07 PM:
" Chung Lee ridicules the mentally deficient rabid right posters all the time. If the man is indeed disabled......how much do you want to bet he receives disability? Not that there is anything wrong with it but coming from somebody who is critical of government programs.....it is a bit hypocritical but par for the Republican course! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 9, 2009 8:02 PM:
" leave it to chung lee to ridicule a disabled man if that is indeed the case. oh well, barry made fun of the special olympics children so it must be a liberal thing. pathetic no matter what you think of the man's politics. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:49 PM:
" Guy reminds me of a joke when Chung Lee go to school. The joke was "How do you get a one armed pollock out of a tree?. Answer: "wave". Chung Lee think in the name of polical correctness that "pollock" be changed to "right winger". "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:36 PM:
" the housing collapse was the major contributing factor to the 2008 crisis according to numerous financial experts. also, consumers pulling equity out of their homes (creating more debt) and living above their means was a factor as well. of course those people were "upside down" in their mortgages due to their own actions and falling prices but if they were not selling at that point, what was the detriment? ride out the market and keep paying but many bailed on their obligations as the government came to their rescue. pres bush stated around 2001 that fannie and freddie were becoming too large and needed more oversight because a housing downturn would be catastrophic. most anyone with an economic background knew that the housing boom couldn't last forever and couple that with all the sub prime loans=disaster. in reality, a president normally has very little control over a free market economy unless he's taxing us to death or squelching capitalism. there are natural cycles which are usually in 20 year increments which fluctuate from booms to recessions. i was re reading a very old issue of money magazine from the 80s and as that downturn unfolded, you would have thought it was 2008. the terminolgy regarding the housing situation was pretty much the same minus the sub prime loans of course. there is an ebb and flow to a free market economy. the operative words are "plan ahead and don't live above your means". chung lee didn't answer my question about barney's video. if you're for regulation, you might want to see him arguing against it. nothing dishonest on my part. "
Duhast wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:21 PM:
" Chung Lee,
I saw this guy playing drums at the Def-Lepard concert... "
I saw this guy playing drums at the Def-Lepard concert... "
Duhast wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:18 PM:
" It’s absolutely asinine to try and point a finger at one smoking gun. Many many factors, including speculation, securitization, risky loans, etc. Blaming one guy or one political party is disingenuous. Lilmurm, if you are as well read as you claim to be, then you know that there were a multitude of by-partisan failures. Attempting to “prove” otherwise either makes you ill-informed or just a big jerk. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:07 PM:
" FYI
No need for anyone to be concerned about my
taxes. I've paid taxes all my life, still pay
a healthy chunk. Willing to pay more if need be
Leona Helmsley said it best,
"Rich people don't pay taxes, poor people do".
That's me, the poor people.
Taxes build roads, schools, etc, etc.
We would be in world of poop if there were no
roads for people to drive those Japanese cars.
If my taxes go up to help the US a better place
for all, so be it. "
No need for anyone to be concerned about my
taxes. I've paid taxes all my life, still pay
a healthy chunk. Willing to pay more if need be
Leona Helmsley said it best,
"Rich people don't pay taxes, poor people do".
That's me, the poor people.
Taxes build roads, schools, etc, etc.
We would be in world of poop if there were no
roads for people to drive those Japanese cars.
If my taxes go up to help the US a better place
for all, so be it. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:03 PM:
" Does anybody know if this guy have left arm? If no left arm he has no choice to be a righty!!! "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:01 PM:
" Chung Lee no engage in dishonest debate so lilmurm are you saying that this was the only issue that caused this meltdown during the BUSH administration? Amazing method of deduction to blame one piece of legislation for such a complex issue. Do you believe none of the other issues had anything to do with it? Are you suggesting that this market doesn't require anytime of regulatory oversight? Chung Lee think simple minds reach simple conclusions! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:44 PM:
" chung lee, oh great purl of the orient: do you dispute the fact that the sub prime mortgage debacle facilitated the whole financial meltdown and that the CRA had nothing to do with it? have you seen the barney frank video i referenced? two simple questions. USA Today was one of many news sources running articles on the mortgage meltdown's direct link with the economic crisis. i hardly call them a conservative mouthpiece. even barry blamed the mortgage situation but that was when he was pushing his bailouts for the irresponsible homeowners. can't have it both ways. "
kURT wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:43 PM:
" This just in. Gov. Palin $$ being looked at. Even though she isn't rich, Mr.&Mrs. Palin made a little over 2hundered K last year. + they/she might a a book deal in the works. Agents for the Palins stated , we know times are lean , but even if people sent them10-15 dollars, it would still help the Palins. It seems the Palins have much debt due to legal issues. hmm. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:28 PM:
" under the AP breaking news section of the SR on the left hand corner of the web page and not a blog roll(for jimbo's benefit), the dems are floating an idea to tax capital gains income with the medicare payroll tax in effect now. is there any area of americans' livlihood that is not up for grabs with these grubby liberals. even though this probably won't materialize, it's the thought process of these idiots. tax property, earnings, sales, estates, intestment earnings and it never ends. barry promised to only raise taxes on the rich which is totally oppressive to success but i digress. what about the soda and tobacco taxes? increased costs under cap and trade? he was "open" to taxing health benefits paid by employers, he wants to decrease the deduction for charitable giving by the well to do and the amount of interest claimed on mortgages. get real-these are the people who are actually paying for their homes without gov't bailouts. some of these people will be taxed at 39% at the federal level so figure in local and state tax, social security and medicare. at what point is it enough and the crooks say, ok-you can keep some of what you earn. the clincher is this: these taxes don't go for the betterment of society as a whole. it funds the LAZY parasites who sit home all day drinking and scratching their lotto tickets while the rest go to work everyday. you want to see your tax dollars in action? drive down pierce, camp, and hancock street for starters. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:24 PM:
" That darn liberal media keeps telling people that it was caused by speculation in the housing market, unsecured/oveleveraged loans, unverified income statements, and the marketing of these houses as derivatives, but hey if Glenn Beck said it was because of Carter......it must be true. "
kURT wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:24 PM:
" Ric Hills you are right. When you reach the age & get medicaid give it back. See my age group has know more distressed economic times than your generation. It wouldn't be right for me to have to "carry" you. p.s Chung Lee & I will also take your SSI too! "
Massengill Winston Smith wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:20 PM:
" This hear internet machine sure is somtin great. Bein that Ize from Norwalk and my long lost bruther Winston Smith must be livin in Sanduski. Sure iz a small werld. Hey Winston meet me down at the baffroom at the Sanduski. Just go to the stall and wave yure hand under the stall to let me know it is yoo. Sorry we have too meat like this but you no those librals are everey wear. We can discuss are grand plan of are grassroots revololution. Lilmurm you can join us becuze it is a three seeter. "
kURT wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:18 PM:
" *ick Nixon started trade with China - then he quit. It was either that or get fired. Spiro Agnew....A great American. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:55 PM:
" the economic downturn was due to the housing meltdown which was caused by the democrats so it all goes back to their front door. first the CRA under jimmy carter then expanded under bill clinton. banks were FORCED by the government to give loans to uncreditworthy customers because liberals believe everyone should own a home regardless of the ability to pay for it. this is not conjecture but fact. the republicans urged congress for more oversight of fannie and freddie in the early 2000s and barney frank is on video stating both entities were on solid ground and doing well with no regulation needed. it later came out that barney's boyfriend was in an executive position at one of them. i believe freddie. conflict of interest? and he's now attempting to pressure banks into making even more risky loans for condo buying. remember franklin rains, barry's buddy who made millions during the rebundling of these "assets" and also the fact that barry stated in 2007 that sub prime mortgages are good for america? let's place the blame where it belongs on the CRA and the democrats mainly and the FDIC is now forcing solid, solvent banks into granting risky loans again-banks that have no defaults or bankruptcies because they only lend to credit worthy clients. this is a no no for the liberals. of course, this can all be verified but i'll brace for the personal insults instead. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:38 PM:
" The Disease Awareness Office in Marblehead OH has issued a warning of a sharp rise in an affliction it's calling Nebulous Internet Disease, or NID.
This is the first disease actually transmitted over the internet. NID is transmitted directly over data lines, into computers and somehow infects the user.
The infection typically begins when the victim reads about republican political views on a current-events blog. Upon reading, the victim begins to experience one or more symptoms of that disease, typically minor symptoms such as believing the rants of the poster.
If the victim just ignores the posts, he or she will return to a normal or healthy state.
Nasdrovya! "
This is the first disease actually transmitted over the internet. NID is transmitted directly over data lines, into computers and somehow infects the user.
The infection typically begins when the victim reads about republican political views on a current-events blog. Upon reading, the victim begins to experience one or more symptoms of that disease, typically minor symptoms such as believing the rants of the poster.
If the victim just ignores the posts, he or she will return to a normal or healthy state.
Nasdrovya! "
mikel wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:36 PM:
" what you don't understand is that you will not make the big corporate honcho's suffer. obamass can do all he wants to try and take wealth from the people that have rightly made it themselves. I, as a small business owner, have had to make some decisions that i wish i didn't regarding employees and their employment status. if you tax me more or make me increase my spending for government programs my employees will be the ones to suffer. my business has a specific profit margin and when it gets close to dipping below that i layoff people. who wins? the gov and taxpayers now have to pay more for those benefits. call me greedy call me what you want but i put in my 60+ hours per week to make it successful. isn't that what the american dream is all about? work your a$$ off and you get rewarded! "
crummybuttlord wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:31 PM:
" lilmurm, you and your pal winston keep citing 5% unemployment during the bush years. you are omitting some very important numbers to support your claims. unemployment was up to 7.5% at the end of the first bush administration. it steadily decreased during the clinton years to 4%, then climbed back up during W's administration to 6%, leveling off at 5%, then way up to 9% after the economy tanked. let's not forget that the banks failed, the housing bubble exploded, and the national debt reached 7 trillion (some say more) while bush was in office. we are living through the aftermath of the bush administration. that is why unemployment is high. bush wasted trillions of tax dollars on bogus military contracts and corporate welfare. where were you, winston, and the one-armed fat guy with the stain on his shirt then? because rush and glenn beck were satisfied, you were too. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:56 PM:
" of course we had a large transfer of wealth during the bush years. money was transferred from employers to hard working employees because unemployment was under 5%. what a concept to liberals! we also had plenty of money to invest in our own futures. it's barry's transfer of wealth from hard working americans to the non producers that most of us cannot stomach. even members of his own party are questioning all the spending of funds that he does not have. see the sidebar of the register's AP reports regarding the healthcare issue and it now appears that cap and trade will be dead in the senate. not all democrats are flaming leftists and some are actually quite conservative from red leaning states who will listen to their constituents. only 27% of americans favor a second stimulous bill and i guess the liberals got an earful when they went home for independence day because they're not pushing the tax on health benefits. the people are speaking!!! "
jimbo wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:41 PM:
" In the Bush years we had the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the country.
That's a fact Jack!
Don't care what any other president did or didn't do, what Hillary said, or if Cheny shot his best friend in the face. Don't want to here any more whining about the constitution, or any other lame excuse for the fact that their motive is greed.
The fact is: During the Bush years we had the largest transfer of wealth in the history
of the country.
Now the people that were the beneficiaries of that transfer, have their knickers in a twist, because Obama wants to transfer some of that cash back where it came from.
So what we have is a group of people with cute screen names bashing Obama.
When I posted the republican lady taking the borrowed handouts, no "conservative" touched that puppy. Too late now people, the fact that you ignored the post, proved a point, don't bother to try and CYA now. "
That's a fact Jack!
Don't care what any other president did or didn't do, what Hillary said, or if Cheny shot his best friend in the face. Don't want to here any more whining about the constitution, or any other lame excuse for the fact that their motive is greed.
The fact is: During the Bush years we had the largest transfer of wealth in the history
of the country.
Now the people that were the beneficiaries of that transfer, have their knickers in a twist, because Obama wants to transfer some of that cash back where it came from.
So what we have is a group of people with cute screen names bashing Obama.
When I posted the republican lady taking the borrowed handouts, no "conservative" touched that puppy. Too late now people, the fact that you ignored the post, proved a point, don't bother to try and CYA now. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:41 PM:
" you are so correct, mikel. president bush was also dealing with two wars and the financial crisis of the 9/11 attacks. obama's debt does not include the certain devastation from his potential cap and trade nor the healthcare scam. what's interesting is that while obama is touring russia this week, european leaders are practially begging him to cut the spending/debt in this country. even socialist leaning leaders over there know that obamanomics will destroy our financial future. as for his climate bill, he's not gaining too much steam either. intelligent people are beginning to see that the "global warming" bandwagon is more about controlling our lives than actually make the air cleaner and reducing fossil fuel usage. 80% of windmills being used in great britain are having major problems and australia is giving a thumbs down to all the environmental legislation as they see what it will do to their economies. even the EPA stated in a report that cap and trade won't really reduce global pollution. if barry places us under all the constraints of cap and trade while china and india are not held to the same standards, where do you think the few american companies still in this country will go? where would you obamanuts go if you DID own a company? this is a little of topic but the photos coming out of the G8 are hilarious. barry is just beaming as if he's running the whole show and oftentimes, the other leaders are half smiling or appear to be very serious. to barry, this is an ego trip of a celebrity, not a head of state. one picture=a thousand words. he is an embarassment to the US. wonder how long it will take him to cave in to russia's demands to remove our european missile shield since they stated this issue is a precurser to arms talks. another funny thing circulating some of the news media outlets is that hillary is accompanying him are a very limited number of foreign trips as opposed to albright with bill clinton and condi with pres. bush. i know, she has a broken arm but i don't think that would stop the ambitious hillary. one theory is that barry is keeping her under wraps so his former rival does not upstage him overseas because her husband was so immensely popular. maybe she'll become so weary of be delegated to the back of the bus that she may run against barry in 2012. wouldn't that be a hoot? the only reason he gave her the secretary of state position is due to the old saying, "keep your friends close and your enemies closer". with all the hot spots in the world, where in the world is hillary?? "
mikel wrote on Jul 9, 2009 3:41 PM:
" thanks richard as you are exactly right. i find it interesting that in one of the previous post someone was criticizing bush for his economic failure. they alluded to the fact that when bush went into office the was a $200 billion surplus and when he left there was a $500 billion deficit, which equates to a swing of $700 billion over eight years. they proceeded to ramble on about how irresponsible bush was with that money. just wondering if that person happens to know that obamass has racked up approximately $1.7 trillion in additional debt since he took office just six months ago. so, if my math is correct obamass has driven us into 2 1/2 times the debt that bush did and he did it in 7 1/2 years less time. makes you wonder what our national debt will be when obamass gets done playing monopoly in 3 years. is there no dem that is concerned with those numbers? "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 9, 2009 3:20 PM:
" Chung Lee watched economy get destroyed for 8 years so Chung Lee know it will take more than 6 months to fix. "
Manowar wrote on Jul 9, 2009 2:51 PM:
" I think he is trying real hard to find a way to say that Obama put him out of business. That ought to do it. Smooth move dude! "
Richard Bebb wrote on Jul 9, 2009 2:41 PM:
" You can certainly tell by reading these comments those of us who believe in the principals that this country was founded on. The simple fact that in this country you work hard for what you get, and in some cases the struggle is harder for others. Those who face these difficulties can either work harder or vote democrat, and wait for their handout.
Where in our constitution does it say that the government is responsible for healthcare, food stamps, assisted housing, the answer - NO WHERE. Some of you need to open your eyes.
Do you really want government bureaucrats deciding your future. Bureaucrats will be decided who receives the care under the government run system. If you are old or in late stages of cancer good luck, your life would not be deemed worthy of government care. Don't think this is accurate, read some of the press from England.
Yes I know I questioned the God Almighty Barry so of course I'm a racist. I like how that is the way these fools counter legitimate arguments. "
Where in our constitution does it say that the government is responsible for healthcare, food stamps, assisted housing, the answer - NO WHERE. Some of you need to open your eyes.
Do you really want government bureaucrats deciding your future. Bureaucrats will be decided who receives the care under the government run system. If you are old or in late stages of cancer good luck, your life would not be deemed worthy of government care. Don't think this is accurate, read some of the press from England.
Yes I know I questioned the God Almighty Barry so of course I'm a racist. I like how that is the way these fools counter legitimate arguments. "
mikel wrote on Jul 9, 2009 2:32 PM:
" i find it interesting that when a dem talks about the current situation in the america that it is bush's fault. yet, when a republican criticizes obamass for the current situation in america the dems are quick to point out that it is actually not the prez's fault but congress and the senate. just getting my info from the many posts previously posted. so, please tell who is responsible. "
trace37 wrote on Jul 9, 2009 2:19 PM:
" Julie R, you go girl, you took the words right out of my mouth!! "
unassumer wrote on Jul 9, 2009 2:05 PM:
" their, there and they're are all pronounced the same. I suppose you meant the spelling but anyway, to the point. Obama is not the problem and although I don't agree with all his proposals, it is not so easy anymore to go out and get a job, let alone get one that provides health insurance and everyone should be entitled to health care. There are so many issues and no solutions it seems, that I don't know how anyone, including Obama, can ever hope to keep up with. People come up with new issues daily it seems and no one is happy with the state of anything. But impeaching the President will not accomplish much because another President might be worse and actually, it's Congress and others that have more influence over what happens in the country than just one man that's elected to lead us. I think we need a great deal of reform in many areas, but unfortunately I don't think we will see alot of improvement anytime soon. "
Julie R. wrote on Jul 9, 2009 1:24 PM:
" At least we are all learning the proper pronunciations of "their", "there" and "they're" thanks to this idiot from Norwalk who wants to impeach the new President of the United States......... "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 9, 2009 12:18 PM:
" Winston Smith wrote on Jul 9, 2009 8:18 AM:
" Chung Lee wrote on Jul 8, 2009 10:22 PM:
‘Haven't been challenged?’
An intelligent, educated Asian would be ashamed of their poor English grammar and would work diligently to learn to use the written language correctly.
You continue to attempt to re-enforce ignorant stereotypes; the 'joke' is stale. "
Chung Lee has been studying real hard and it appears that it is you Winston that needs to hit the books. You want to correct my grammar which in this case is correct and in your rant you say that Chung Lee "re-enforce" stereotypes? Well Winston you better contact Webster because the word in reinfoce (with an "I" and no hyphen). Chung Lee really like your example and use of proper English by using "workin'" instead of working. Trying to sound like one of the guys are you? Chung Lee wonder if Winston knows the diffenced between "their", "they're", and "there".
Winston you realize that you didn't address even one fact in your rant? Chung Lee would like to see the citation to your claim that on 2% of Vietnam era forces fought in the war. Provide the link or admit that you are wrong (again).
Chung Lee finds it ironic that a pathetic little man wants to be known as "Winston Smith" the hero of a fiction book. Winston is always espousing on liberty and freedom and yet thinks others should not be able to choose their screen name or the content of their comments. Chung Lee wonder if he chose Winston because Superman ond Wonderwoman were already taken? If Winston was a superhero he would be Batman because he sounds like the kind of guy who live with boy in cave! "
" Chung Lee wrote on Jul 8, 2009 10:22 PM:
‘Haven't been challenged?’
An intelligent, educated Asian would be ashamed of their poor English grammar and would work diligently to learn to use the written language correctly.
You continue to attempt to re-enforce ignorant stereotypes; the 'joke' is stale. "
Chung Lee has been studying real hard and it appears that it is you Winston that needs to hit the books. You want to correct my grammar which in this case is correct and in your rant you say that Chung Lee "re-enforce" stereotypes? Well Winston you better contact Webster because the word in reinfoce (with an "I" and no hyphen). Chung Lee really like your example and use of proper English by using "workin'" instead of working. Trying to sound like one of the guys are you? Chung Lee wonder if Winston knows the diffenced between "their", "they're", and "there".
Winston you realize that you didn't address even one fact in your rant? Chung Lee would like to see the citation to your claim that on 2% of Vietnam era forces fought in the war. Provide the link or admit that you are wrong (again).
Chung Lee finds it ironic that a pathetic little man wants to be known as "Winston Smith" the hero of a fiction book. Winston is always espousing on liberty and freedom and yet thinks others should not be able to choose their screen name or the content of their comments. Chung Lee wonder if he chose Winston because Superman ond Wonderwoman were already taken? If Winston was a superhero he would be Batman because he sounds like the kind of guy who live with boy in cave! "
blaze wrote on Jul 9, 2009 11:55 AM:
" I don't know if he's missing an arm but I think he spilled something on his shirt. "
kath2860 wrote on Jul 9, 2009 11:09 AM:
" Winston Smith wrote on Jul 9, 2009 9:13 AM:
Read the comments as well - their worth it. "
The PROPER way to write the last three words of your sentence is "they're worth it." Where do YOU get off telling anyone else about the proper written word? "
Read the comments as well - their worth it. "
The PROPER way to write the last three words of your sentence is "they're worth it." Where do YOU get off telling anyone else about the proper written word? "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 9, 2009 9:18 AM:
" Remember when U.S. unemployment under W was around 4%?
Under Obama, all the jobs created since 2000 have been wiped out:
http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-2009-7 "
Under Obama, all the jobs created since 2000 have been wiped out:
http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-2009-7 "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 9, 2009 9:13 AM:
" Obama's Support Collapses In Rust-Belt Ohio:
http://www.businessinsider.com/obamas-support-collapses-in-rust-belt-ohio-2009-7
Read the comments as well - their worth it. "
http://www.businessinsider.com/obamas-support-collapses-in-rust-belt-ohio-2009-7
Read the comments as well - their worth it. "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 9, 2009 9:06 AM:
" Publius wrote on Jul 9, 2009 12:12 AM:
‘Stalin referred to Mussolini as a “right winger”, and thus fascism has ever since been branded as “right wing”. Which is unfair to right wing Americans since Liberty is hardly right wing to a Communist.’
You are correct; both camps are in the same half of the political spectrum of authoritarian-totalitarian. The names are different, but the ingredients are pretty much the same.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_compass
The terms left-wing and right-wing come to us courtesy of the French Revolution and merely refers to seating arrangements.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics "
‘Stalin referred to Mussolini as a “right winger”, and thus fascism has ever since been branded as “right wing”. Which is unfair to right wing Americans since Liberty is hardly right wing to a Communist.’
You are correct; both camps are in the same half of the political spectrum of authoritarian-totalitarian. The names are different, but the ingredients are pretty much the same.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_compass
The terms left-wing and right-wing come to us courtesy of the French Revolution and merely refers to seating arrangements.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 9, 2009 8:46 AM:
" The 10 yr. U.S. Treasury Bond auction went surprisingly very well yesterday, foreigners bought half of the U.S. debt.
Obama and his pal Geithner plan a total of $2 trillion in U.S. Treasury sales this yr.
Obama the Great just keeps mortgaging the U.S.' future; hope you Obamabots enjoy workin' for your new masters - the Chinese. "
Obama and his pal Geithner plan a total of $2 trillion in U.S. Treasury sales this yr.
Obama the Great just keeps mortgaging the U.S.' future; hope you Obamabots enjoy workin' for your new masters - the Chinese. "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 9, 2009 8:18 AM:
" Chung Lee wrote on Jul 8, 2009 10:22 PM:
‘Haven't been challenged?’
An intelligent, educated Asian would be ashamed of their poor English grammar and would work diligently to learn to use the written language correctly.
You continue to attempt to re-enforce ignorant stereotypes; the 'joke' is stale. "
‘Haven't been challenged?’
An intelligent, educated Asian would be ashamed of their poor English grammar and would work diligently to learn to use the written language correctly.
You continue to attempt to re-enforce ignorant stereotypes; the 'joke' is stale. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:58 AM:
" Publius said:
"Many cite corporations in Italy and Germany as evidence the corporations colluded with Mussolini and Hitler. That is tantamount to saying slave in America colluded with plantation owners in the pre-bellum South."
Chung Lee think if you are going to make a corollary don't misrepresent the equation. Corporations colluded with Mussolini and Hitler and the plantation owners (not the slaves) colluded with the Confederate government. As the facts support, one of the issues behind the war was to maintain the plantation owners property (slaves). Conservatives want cheap labor as well. It appears the American worker and the slave are interchangeable in the "conservative" vision for this country.
Chung Lee think this flaw in reasoning is a Freudian Slip by "Publius" considering the disdain shown by the conservatives toward the union workers and the concessions expected of the working class to bail out the poor decisions of the capitalists. How come conservatives don't want a "free market" approach when it comes to the cost of labor?
Chung Lee also finds it interesting that "Publius" decries the need for "low cost reliable goods, services, energy, health care, and livelihoods." Interpreted it means unregulated energy, cheap labor and disposable workers available to the capitalist class. Funny how the "capitalists" want to reap the benefits of productive workers, yet do not want to invest in these same workers to insure that they are healthy.
Chung Lee seems to remember a certain energy task force that was created by former vice-president Cheney and included (presumably representatives of the energy companies though the government refused to release the details). Chung Lee does not think that this does not sound like a "free market". Is Chung Lee supposed to believe that V.P. Cheney is not really a conservative, but really a progressive liberal (like Hitler and Mussolini). Chung Lee no believe that for one second.
Chung Lee always try to give credit when credit due so Chung Lee wants to give credit to "Publius" for creativity of linking liberals with both fascism and nazism and creating some sort of imaginary link to those who oppose the conservative agenda. "
"Many cite corporations in Italy and Germany as evidence the corporations colluded with Mussolini and Hitler. That is tantamount to saying slave in America colluded with plantation owners in the pre-bellum South."
Chung Lee think if you are going to make a corollary don't misrepresent the equation. Corporations colluded with Mussolini and Hitler and the plantation owners (not the slaves) colluded with the Confederate government. As the facts support, one of the issues behind the war was to maintain the plantation owners property (slaves). Conservatives want cheap labor as well. It appears the American worker and the slave are interchangeable in the "conservative" vision for this country.
Chung Lee think this flaw in reasoning is a Freudian Slip by "Publius" considering the disdain shown by the conservatives toward the union workers and the concessions expected of the working class to bail out the poor decisions of the capitalists. How come conservatives don't want a "free market" approach when it comes to the cost of labor?
Chung Lee also finds it interesting that "Publius" decries the need for "low cost reliable goods, services, energy, health care, and livelihoods." Interpreted it means unregulated energy, cheap labor and disposable workers available to the capitalist class. Funny how the "capitalists" want to reap the benefits of productive workers, yet do not want to invest in these same workers to insure that they are healthy.
Chung Lee seems to remember a certain energy task force that was created by former vice-president Cheney and included (presumably representatives of the energy companies though the government refused to release the details). Chung Lee does not think that this does not sound like a "free market". Is Chung Lee supposed to believe that V.P. Cheney is not really a conservative, but really a progressive liberal (like Hitler and Mussolini). Chung Lee no believe that for one second.
Chung Lee always try to give credit when credit due so Chung Lee wants to give credit to "Publius" for creativity of linking liberals with both fascism and nazism and creating some sort of imaginary link to those who oppose the conservative agenda. "
mikel wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:50 AM:
" nice one for you dems. gov strickland wants to "borrow" money from pers to balance the budget for ohio. he will do this by paying less into the fund now and increasing payments at a later time. typical dem thinking. i hope alot of you bloggers have gov jobs that have pers retirement. everyone should know that the gov will never pay that money back. if i remember right obamass was chastizing the american public for their heavy use of credit cards and getting themselves into such financial ruin. looks like obamass should tell strickland that as he is doing something very similar with this approach. fools i say. "
cap359 wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:35 AM:
" Hey Ric, `look at what your awsome republicans have done for us before Obama. You should be proud of how they raped the American economy and let the hard working small businesses go belly up while stuffing their pockets. I hope you remember what your republicans did for you when you are forced to close your doors and file bankruptcy. Grow up and smell the coffe sir!!! "
countrycowboy wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:21 AM:
" Pubicus, one other thing, Are you sure the Grofaz considered all Jews to be capitalists? I guess then the NSDAP called Bolsheikvisim a disease brought on by pure aryan folks? "
countrycowboy wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:19 AM:
" Pubicus.....So we here in the United States have the highest standard of living ever known? Do the Belgians and Luxembourgians or Norwejians know this? I know with just a few more years depending on the most selfish and evil men to do us all good and provide us with a few more Enrons, AIGS, and BCCIs we can achieve great heights by deregulation. "
kURT wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:06 AM:
" Well then Publius you certainly know about the pact between the Nazis & the Catholic church. circa 1939. "
Publius wrote on Jul 9, 2009 12:12 AM:
" It seems, as evidenced by the posters here, there are now two distinct peoples living within the same national boundaries. There are the “progressives” and the “conservatives”.
Conservatives believe they are conserving the original intent of the US Constitution. They believe (and Publius is among them) the Constitution was meant to be read as it was written. Conservatives believe that we are born free; as a gift from God. Through the Declaration of Independence, our County stated this timeless principal.
Conservatives believe the intent of the United States Constitution is to constrain government from trampling on the rights of the individual. So, in most informed circles, Conservatives are the “classic liberals” of this Country.
Those that decry themselves as “progressives” have probably not researched the term progressive or the progressive movement very well. This era arose in the 1920s when Mussolini was fashionable here in the States. This was called (and you have heard Hillary use this term) the “third way”. This was taken right from Mussolini.
Mussolini fashioned a “third way” to find a way to bridge Capitalism with his form of Socialism. Mussolini rejected Stalin’s Communistic brand of controlling the means of production and enslaved the corporations of their day by regulation and other government means. Stalin referred to Mussolini as a “right winger”, and thus fascism has ever since been branded as “right wing”. Which is unfair to right wing Americans since Liberty is hardly right wing to a Communist.
FDR enacted these very same policies using CCC, WPA, TVA, Social Security, etc. etc.; programs fashioned exactly after Mussolini’s Fascist programs in Italy. Our Country didn’t walk away from these programs until Hitler hijacked fascism with his form of fascism called NAZIism (National Socialist Workers Party). Whereas Mussolini scapegoated Capitalists, Hitler scapegoated Jews. Recall that Jews in Germany were defined as the evil Capitalists behind German woes. Mussolini enslaved corporations (as did Hitler) with laws and regulations. Many cite corporations in Italy and Germany as evidence the corporations colluded with Mussolini and Hitler. That is tantamount to saying slave in America colluded with plantation owners in the pre-bellum South.
We now find our Country strongly debating who should control the means of production. Those that decry Capitalism (the free enterprise between free people) site the Constitution (that uncomfortable written document that Progressives prefer to refer to as a “living document”).
There are two camps in this Country. Those that believe the government should direct or control the means of production, versus those of us that believe we are best served by LIBERTY. Those that would cower behind the skirts of the government gun, or those that believe the government should serve a free people.
If we learn anything from history, which government would serve us best? One that fires CEOs, directs their production, defines their employee compensation, scares the investor class into seeking safe shelter (an likely off-shore shelter), threatens to inflict compensatory taxes on energy (the life blood of manufacturing and commerce in Ohio), plans to nationalize our health care industry (20% of our GDP)? Or one that promotes free enterprise, where market forces and competition ensure delivery of low cost reliable goods, services, energy, health care, and livelihoods.
Are we really two separate people in the same geographical country now? How did our Country become so divided? Have we refused to learn from recent history? Many people from that era are still alive today. Do we really want to walk away from a capitalist system that gave us the highest standard of living the world has ever known? "
Conservatives believe they are conserving the original intent of the US Constitution. They believe (and Publius is among them) the Constitution was meant to be read as it was written. Conservatives believe that we are born free; as a gift from God. Through the Declaration of Independence, our County stated this timeless principal.
Conservatives believe the intent of the United States Constitution is to constrain government from trampling on the rights of the individual. So, in most informed circles, Conservatives are the “classic liberals” of this Country.
Those that decry themselves as “progressives” have probably not researched the term progressive or the progressive movement very well. This era arose in the 1920s when Mussolini was fashionable here in the States. This was called (and you have heard Hillary use this term) the “third way”. This was taken right from Mussolini.
Mussolini fashioned a “third way” to find a way to bridge Capitalism with his form of Socialism. Mussolini rejected Stalin’s Communistic brand of controlling the means of production and enslaved the corporations of their day by regulation and other government means. Stalin referred to Mussolini as a “right winger”, and thus fascism has ever since been branded as “right wing”. Which is unfair to right wing Americans since Liberty is hardly right wing to a Communist.
FDR enacted these very same policies using CCC, WPA, TVA, Social Security, etc. etc.; programs fashioned exactly after Mussolini’s Fascist programs in Italy. Our Country didn’t walk away from these programs until Hitler hijacked fascism with his form of fascism called NAZIism (National Socialist Workers Party). Whereas Mussolini scapegoated Capitalists, Hitler scapegoated Jews. Recall that Jews in Germany were defined as the evil Capitalists behind German woes. Mussolini enslaved corporations (as did Hitler) with laws and regulations. Many cite corporations in Italy and Germany as evidence the corporations colluded with Mussolini and Hitler. That is tantamount to saying slave in America colluded with plantation owners in the pre-bellum South.
We now find our Country strongly debating who should control the means of production. Those that decry Capitalism (the free enterprise between free people) site the Constitution (that uncomfortable written document that Progressives prefer to refer to as a “living document”).
There are two camps in this Country. Those that believe the government should direct or control the means of production, versus those of us that believe we are best served by LIBERTY. Those that would cower behind the skirts of the government gun, or those that believe the government should serve a free people.
If we learn anything from history, which government would serve us best? One that fires CEOs, directs their production, defines their employee compensation, scares the investor class into seeking safe shelter (an likely off-shore shelter), threatens to inflict compensatory taxes on energy (the life blood of manufacturing and commerce in Ohio), plans to nationalize our health care industry (20% of our GDP)? Or one that promotes free enterprise, where market forces and competition ensure delivery of low cost reliable goods, services, energy, health care, and livelihoods.
Are we really two separate people in the same geographical country now? How did our Country become so divided? Have we refused to learn from recent history? Many people from that era are still alive today. Do we really want to walk away from a capitalist system that gave us the highest standard of living the world has ever known? "
jimbo wrote on Jul 8, 2009 10:25 PM:
" If we are going to keep repeating......
See below: does that mean we need to impeach
the gal, after all she is a "republican".
" State Senator Karen L. Gillmor (R) announced federal stimulus projects in her Senate district. The money for these projects in her district, authorized by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, will be used to build roads and bridges, purchase equipment for cash-strapped local and county governments, help feed low-income children through the National School Lunch Program, and help retrain displaced workers for reentry to the job market.
“The eight counties I represent will be receiving over $61 million in Recovery Act funds and will have the opportunity to access additional dollars in multi-county allocations,” Gillmor said. “In this time of economic recession, our citizens can benefit from these project funds.”
Counties in the 26th Senate District will receive:
Crawford Total: $12,855,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $11,540,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $92,000
• National School Lunch Program: $44,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $550,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $602,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $27,000
Logan Total: $4,713,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $1,270,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $2,861,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $324,000
• Public Housing Capital Fund: $236,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $22,000
Crawford Total: $12,855,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $11,540,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $92,000
• National School Lunch Program: $44,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $550,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $602,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $27,000
Logan Total: $4,713,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $1,270,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $2,861,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $324,000
• Public Housing Capital Fund: $236,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $22,000
Sandusky Total: $11,065,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $3,046,000
• National School Lunch Program: $10,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $7,265,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $624,000
• Public Housing Capital Fund: $91,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $28,000
Seneca Total: $4,223,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $2,010,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $1,547,000
• National School Lunch Program: $18,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $618,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $30,000
Union Total: $5,622,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $380,000
• National School Lunch Program: $4,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $4,993,000
• State Clean Diesel Program: $26,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $208,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $12,000
Wyandot Total: $1,764,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $500,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $993,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $262,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $9,000
Additional information on Recovery Act projects, by county, can be viewed at recovery.ohio.gov/accountability/counties/.
Gillmor represents the 26th Senate district covering all of Crawford, Logan, Marion, Sandusky, Union, and Wyandot counties as well as parts of Seneca and Ottawa counties. " "
See below: does that mean we need to impeach
the gal, after all she is a "republican".
" State Senator Karen L. Gillmor (R) announced federal stimulus projects in her Senate district. The money for these projects in her district, authorized by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, will be used to build roads and bridges, purchase equipment for cash-strapped local and county governments, help feed low-income children through the National School Lunch Program, and help retrain displaced workers for reentry to the job market.
“The eight counties I represent will be receiving over $61 million in Recovery Act funds and will have the opportunity to access additional dollars in multi-county allocations,” Gillmor said. “In this time of economic recession, our citizens can benefit from these project funds.”
Counties in the 26th Senate District will receive:
Crawford Total: $12,855,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $11,540,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $92,000
• National School Lunch Program: $44,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $550,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $602,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $27,000
Logan Total: $4,713,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $1,270,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $2,861,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $324,000
• Public Housing Capital Fund: $236,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $22,000
Crawford Total: $12,855,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $11,540,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $92,000
• National School Lunch Program: $44,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $550,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $602,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $27,000
Logan Total: $4,713,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $1,270,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $2,861,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $324,000
• Public Housing Capital Fund: $236,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $22,000
Sandusky Total: $11,065,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $3,046,000
• National School Lunch Program: $10,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $7,265,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $624,000
• Public Housing Capital Fund: $91,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $28,000
Seneca Total: $4,223,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $2,010,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $1,547,000
• National School Lunch Program: $18,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $618,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $30,000
Union Total: $5,622,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $380,000
• National School Lunch Program: $4,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $4,993,000
• State Clean Diesel Program: $26,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $208,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $12,000
Wyandot Total: $1,764,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $500,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $993,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $262,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $9,000
Additional information on Recovery Act projects, by county, can be viewed at recovery.ohio.gov/accountability/counties/.
Gillmor represents the 26th Senate district covering all of Crawford, Logan, Marion, Sandusky, Union, and Wyandot counties as well as parts of Seneca and Ottawa counties. " "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 8, 2009 10:22 PM:
" Haven't been challenged? Chung Lee challenged lilmurm about calling Obama a traitor. All Chung Lee got was some crazy factless rant. Too be a traitor...one must be convicted of treason. Not very difficult concept. Just because Obama is doing what a majority of people want him to do and none of the religious wack job extemists can accept it.
Seriously, who do the republicans have to run? Last week they lost 3 potential President / Vice-President candidates Ensign to sex scandal, Sanford to sex scandal and Palin because she couldn't handle being the governor of alaska so she quit.
Didn't a previous poster disprove lilmurm nonsense that all middle east terrorists are muslims? Pretty sure that happened. "
Seriously, who do the republicans have to run? Last week they lost 3 potential President / Vice-President candidates Ensign to sex scandal, Sanford to sex scandal and Palin because she couldn't handle being the governor of alaska so she quit.
Didn't a previous poster disprove lilmurm nonsense that all middle east terrorists are muslims? Pretty sure that happened. "
nomad wrote on Jul 8, 2009 10:18 PM:
" jimbo wrote on Jul 8, 2009 8:23 AM:
" " Wingnut manual, page 33:
Have more than one screen name, no one can see your IP and that will give you the opportunity play the innocent, nice person, that just wants to debate the
issues.
Once you take the heat off your propaganda posting screen name, you can hit with the nebulous posts, and back them up with links to wing nut web sites.
You may not have said winston, which I was wrong, but you are implying I have more than one account on here which I do not. lilmurm is right, the same can be said about you buddy. Go ahead and keep up the name calling though, makes you look smart ;) "
" " Wingnut manual, page 33:
Have more than one screen name, no one can see your IP and that will give you the opportunity play the innocent, nice person, that just wants to debate the
issues.
Once you take the heat off your propaganda posting screen name, you can hit with the nebulous posts, and back them up with links to wing nut web sites.
You may not have said winston, which I was wrong, but you are implying I have more than one account on here which I do not. lilmurm is right, the same can be said about you buddy. Go ahead and keep up the name calling though, makes you look smart ;) "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 8, 2009 9:52 PM:
" poor jimbo, he just cannot accept the fact that so many posters see through the obama agenda. following his logic, is he, duhast, kurt, iluvkauai and chung lee thte same person? you people must get over your fear and anger to just accept that the poll numbers are not lying as they slip, slide away. i see no one has taken my challenge to address any of my posts with contrary facts-just goes to show nothing is a lie. i think chung lee's mindset is that of his fellow chinamen who are killing the rioters in the streets of china. i think chung lee likes to squash dissent as well. i have two words for him - first ammendment. so sorry to muddy up your thought process with the constitution. moving on to more productive ventures now. "
ned mandingo wrote on Jul 8, 2009 9:27 PM:
" 250 posts? the election is over give it up and save it for the next one. Not a very good business decision. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 8, 2009 9:16 PM:
" Where does this say anyone is anyone.
The question is one that a wingnut would
post for various reasons, only one of which
is to change the subject.
If the shoe fits Cinderfella slip it on,
if it doesn't keep dancing.
jimbo wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:18 PM:
" Wingnut moves, page 32:
When backed into a corner ask a nebulous question:
Example: How will cap and trade, 20 million illegals getting citizenship benefit all of us?
That will give you the opportunity to change the
subject. (works better if you work with a sock
puppet to back you up). " "
The question is one that a wingnut would
post for various reasons, only one of which
is to change the subject.
If the shoe fits Cinderfella slip it on,
if it doesn't keep dancing.
jimbo wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:18 PM:
" Wingnut moves, page 32:
When backed into a corner ask a nebulous question:
Example: How will cap and trade, 20 million illegals getting citizenship benefit all of us?
That will give you the opportunity to change the
subject. (works better if you work with a sock
puppet to back you up). " "
jimbo wrote on Jul 8, 2009 9:08 PM:
" RE:Obama's socialist agenda that he has rammed thru the House and Senate.
Funny how they all post the same comments.
Could it be the same person or the same group?
Nah, must be one of them divine mysteries....... "
Funny how they all post the same comments.
Could it be the same person or the same group?
Nah, must be one of them divine mysteries....... "
nomad wrote on Jul 8, 2009 8:59 PM:
" Oh and jimbo, I missed your post where you think I am Winston. I am not, hahaha. I was truly just asking your opinion on those two issues. Since there is no way of proving I am not Winston, you can believe what you want. "
crummybuttlord wrote on Jul 8, 2009 8:31 PM:
" winston, 30% of active military served in nam' during the war. did you read 2% somewhere, or just pull it out of your fat, pimply behind? "
crummybuttlord wrote on Jul 8, 2009 7:49 PM:
" another fat slob "ditto-head" in desparate need of p00n-tang. "
kURT wrote on Jul 8, 2009 7:22 PM:
" Hey winny.......thanks for all the laughter. During my dinner, one of the guys at work saw what you said to me. My co-worker replied, "Is that guy winston a moron?" I said - yes. "
southernbell wrote on Jul 8, 2009 7:11 PM:
" Fact is: the rich wealthy are not spending there money, there not given raises, they are hoarding the money, same as just before th 1929 crash. "
44846GWP wrote on Jul 8, 2009 6:41 PM:
" Everyone take a look at the second picture. Hills should learn how to spell before he tells the President how to run the country. O.k. BABIE? "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 8, 2009 6:39 PM:
" Chung Lee get good laugh when lilmurm say they post to expose the truth and to bring the undecided to lilmurms point of view. Chung Lee think this approach seems to alienate gays, blacks, non-christians and etc. Chung Lee no fan either with all bad things say about China. The republicans complained about China when communist and now complain when China best capitalist. Anyway, Chung Lee think the republicans already have the lock on the remaining 20%. Chung Lee think it is easy to recognize this 20% because they are the same 20% who believe the Iraq war was a good idea and that Saddam had WMD.
Someday Chung Lee think that Homeland Security or another agency will show up at the lilmurm bunker to ask some questions. The same goes for Pastor Ron. How many recent cases of domestic terrorism have there been in the last couple of years with right wing radicals? Chung Lee think it is time to start watching them because in their diminished state.....they can be quite unstable. "
Someday Chung Lee think that Homeland Security or another agency will show up at the lilmurm bunker to ask some questions. The same goes for Pastor Ron. How many recent cases of domestic terrorism have there been in the last couple of years with right wing radicals? Chung Lee think it is time to start watching them because in their diminished state.....they can be quite unstable. "
44846GWP wrote on Jul 8, 2009 6:36 PM:
" I knew this guy years ago. He and his wife would leave their dog chained outside all day, every day and just let it bark. They didn't care if it disturbed people or not. At least until the police paid a visit. They also would let their cat run loose and it would crap in everyone's flower beds and leave paw prints on the cars. Nice folks, I wouldn't buy an apple from the guy. Oh, he's a goofy right winger too. "
iluvkauai wrote on Jul 8, 2009 6:17 PM:
" And while I am still on here, just let me clarify my recent posting regarding lilmurm. It all well and good to have differing political views, but when one becomes so far left OR so far right as to become fanatical and extremist, well... that is downright disturbing and makes one wonder about the mental stability of those like lilmurm who perpetuate and pass along these extremist views...people who believe only THEY are in possession of the truth and facts. Extremists such as lilmurm seem to live in a world of absolutes and illusions of their own grandeur as they constantly seek to convince everyone around them that only THEY know what is right and good. Extremism and fanaticism regarding ANY ideology or doctrine is a bad thing. "
Richard Russell wrote on Jul 8, 2009 5:58 PM:
" Congress is the problem -- not the President. They are the ones that should be impeached.
Bush sat on his hands and did nothing to stop the economic mess we have now. The only time he took any action was when he signed every idiotic and counter-productive (taxes and regulations) bill sent to him by the Congress. He will be held up for ridicule in the future for signing the TARP bill because it was unconstitutional.
The current Congress has all been more than happy to pass every item on Obama's socialist agenda that he has rammed thru the House and Senate, and those bills are mostly unconstitutional as well. If the Congressional leaders had any brains or kahunas, they would not let this president run amuck as he is.
The "change" we needed was in the Capital. I hope everyone remembers that in November, 2010. "
Bush sat on his hands and did nothing to stop the economic mess we have now. The only time he took any action was when he signed every idiotic and counter-productive (taxes and regulations) bill sent to him by the Congress. He will be held up for ridicule in the future for signing the TARP bill because it was unconstitutional.
The current Congress has all been more than happy to pass every item on Obama's socialist agenda that he has rammed thru the House and Senate, and those bills are mostly unconstitutional as well. If the Congressional leaders had any brains or kahunas, they would not let this president run amuck as he is.
The "change" we needed was in the Capital. I hope everyone remembers that in November, 2010. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 8, 2009 5:55 PM:
" Someone call the Orkin Man, we need wingnut spray
this site is infested with them critters!
If you can't get Orkin, call Terminix, this is
not a drill, this is an actual emergency!!! "
this site is infested with them critters!
If you can't get Orkin, call Terminix, this is
not a drill, this is an actual emergency!!! "
EddieOs wrote on Jul 8, 2009 5:47 PM:
" Mr. Lee wrote:
***"""George Bush who allowed Bin Ladens family to fly home while all the planes were grounded in the US? Wasn't it President Bush holding hands with the leader of the country where 15 of the 19 hijackers were from? Those are facts."""***
Mr. Lee. Thank you for being an informed person.
However, the shill on board can't respond to facts. "
***"""George Bush who allowed Bin Ladens family to fly home while all the planes were grounded in the US? Wasn't it President Bush holding hands with the leader of the country where 15 of the 19 hijackers were from? Those are facts."""***
Mr. Lee. Thank you for being an informed person.
However, the shill on board can't respond to facts. "
iluvkauai wrote on Jul 8, 2009 5:42 PM:
" Chung Lee, Pastor Ron posted something about abortion and Christians who murder abortion doctors vs. Muslim terrorists. One he condones...the other he doesn't. You didn't miss anything. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 8, 2009 4:14 PM:
" Why all talk about Pastor Ron? Did he make visit and start say crazy things like lilmurm? Chung Lee no see post. Chung Lee mad. "
duhast wrote on Jul 8, 2009 4:01 PM:
" no lilmurm, he walked around his compound holding hands with the prince. Pleanty of video on that one... "
iluvkauai wrote on Jul 8, 2009 3:58 PM:
" Obama's "Islamic pride"?!? Oh puh-leeeeze.You know, lilmurm, I could almost laugh at you and your sad paranoid schizophrenic delusions if I didn't find them AND you to be increasingly more and more CREEPY with every comment you post. If it wasn't before, it's official now...you are a flaming lunatic. Good day, godspeed, and have a good life down there in your secret underground bunker, Chicken Little. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 8, 2009 3:57 PM:
" i'm signing off for now. you lugnuts have at it, worshipping at the alter of barry hussein. "
Einstein's Tutor wrote on Jul 8, 2009 3:55 PM:
" If Pastor Ron is correct, I guess Jesus Christ should be indicted as a co-conspirator. Maybe Ron has an address where the papers can be served. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 8, 2009 3:55 PM:
" probably the same part barry doesn't understand when he supports abortion and infanticide.it's all murder. as for the israelis killing innocent children, the cowardly islamists hide behind women and children even in mosques. re: the saudis, at least pres. bush didn't bow to them in a gesture of subservience like obama did. hand holding is bad enough showing friendship but someone should tell barry that slavery was abolished a while back but maybe for him, it's ok to serve radical islam, just not the white man. "
My Opinion Is... wrote on Jul 8, 2009 3:43 PM:
" Re: Pastor Ron
You are a Christian Extremist and I'm sure you're one of the first to condemn Muslim Extremists. All Extremists' believe that God wants them to kill whomever they're going to kill. I'm just sorry you don't possess the simplest of reading skills. God handed down the Ten Commandments to Moses and one of them is "Thou Shall Not Kill". There is no legal disclaimer attached that says it's okay if this, this or this happens. What part of "Thou Shall Not" don't you understand? "
You are a Christian Extremist and I'm sure you're one of the first to condemn Muslim Extremists. All Extremists' believe that God wants them to kill whomever they're going to kill. I'm just sorry you don't possess the simplest of reading skills. God handed down the Ten Commandments to Moses and one of them is "Thou Shall Not Kill". There is no legal disclaimer attached that says it's okay if this, this or this happens. What part of "Thou Shall Not" don't you understand? "
Paulsen1011 wrote on Jul 8, 2009 3:41 PM:
" I love how a lot of people are in here, voicing their opinion, on how he should NOT be voicing HIS opinion. Isn't that a little ironic? "
duhast wrote on Jul 8, 2009 2:59 PM:
" lilmurm wrote on Jul 8, 2009 2:25 PM
not all muslims are terrorists but all mideastern terrorists are muslims.
Does that include the Israeli settlement terrorists who bombed innocent Palestinian children in some perceived retribution or Jewish Defense league? Does that include the Christian National Liberation Front of Tripura? Does that include all Kurdish separatists? Does that include Tamil Tigers? "
not all muslims are terrorists but all mideastern terrorists are muslims.
Does that include the Israeli settlement terrorists who bombed innocent Palestinian children in some perceived retribution or Jewish Defense league? Does that include the Christian National Liberation Front of Tripura? Does that include all Kurdish separatists? Does that include Tamil Tigers? "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 8, 2009 2:52 PM:
" Obama's loyalty is with the islamic states? You call that a fact? First of all wasn't it George Bush who allowed Bin Ladens family to fly home while all the planes were grounded in the US? Wasn't it President Bush holding hands with the leader of the country where 15 of the 19 hijackers were from? Those are facts.
What bearing does it have if they are islamic states? Should only Christian nations have rights? Lilmurm you made it clear that you want to deny rights to gays and now you want to discriminate against countries with a different religion from your own! This might come as a surprise but there are more muslims in the world than there are christians, but hey don't let the facts get in the way of your hate. "
What bearing does it have if they are islamic states? Should only Christian nations have rights? Lilmurm you made it clear that you want to deny rights to gays and now you want to discriminate against countries with a different religion from your own! This might come as a surprise but there are more muslims in the world than there are christians, but hey don't let the facts get in the way of your hate. "
mikel wrote on Jul 8, 2009 2:36 PM:
" one must wonder about all of the involvement our government has muscled itself into. the government has set a precedent by taking over private industry, trying to control the banking sector as well as trying to establish a universal health plan. not to mention in just six months our government has increased our national debt by $1.7 trillion. is no one concerned about this?
people just don't realize that there will be "penalities" for these items. someone will have to pay the piper for this. it probably won't be me but my children, grandchildren etc. we can't let obamass and the democratic controlled congress and senate continue this way. "
people just don't realize that there will be "penalities" for these items. someone will have to pay the piper for this. it probably won't be me but my children, grandchildren etc. we can't let obamass and the democratic controlled congress and senate continue this way. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 8, 2009 2:25 PM:
" obama just happens to be the first president whose loyalty lies with islamic states who happen to be our enemies rather than our true allies. not all muslims are terrorists but all mideastern terrorists are muslims. we would do well to remember that in honor of 3000 plus americans murdered on 9/11. i don't fear his name, i just like to use if often as he now does to trumpet his islamic pride but before the election, one could not speak his middle name without being branded a racist. his pride lies in kenya-too bad he doesn't go back there to live and lift them out of oppression. does anyone understand the meaning of "national origin"? "
duhast wrote on Jul 8, 2009 2:15 PM:
" jijames50,
I don’t disagree with you at all on the intent of the 10th amendment. However, my question is this; how exactly has Obama personally violated the amendment and if so, how is that an impeachable offense?
As you probably know, there are two sides that like to interpret what this amendment means. The constitution party interprets said amendment to mean that the federal government has no power over the states unless expressly written in the constitution. The other side says that the government can legislate whatever they want as long as it’s not specifically prohibited in the constitution. "
I don’t disagree with you at all on the intent of the 10th amendment. However, my question is this; how exactly has Obama personally violated the amendment and if so, how is that an impeachable offense?
As you probably know, there are two sides that like to interpret what this amendment means. The constitution party interprets said amendment to mean that the federal government has no power over the states unless expressly written in the constitution. The other side says that the government can legislate whatever they want as long as it’s not specifically prohibited in the constitution. "
Rich wrote on Jul 8, 2009 2:05 PM:
" Didn't the owner of the Invention Restaurant in Milan display OBAMA signs and he became very political with his customers, and just a few months later they closed due to no business?
Who knows, maybe his business will grow from those who walked away from Invention. "
Who knows, maybe his business will grow from those who walked away from Invention. "
southernbell wrote on Jul 8, 2009 1:46 PM:
" Norwalk businessman:
What kind of water they serve in Norwalk, contaminated? It is making them Norwalkings CRAZY. "
What kind of water they serve in Norwalk, contaminated? It is making them Norwalkings CRAZY. "
EddieOs wrote on Jul 8, 2009 1:40 PM:
" FST wrote:
***" I am getting to the point where I remember what posters to skip over as they talk out their rearend. I have to say that besides Pastor Ron,I now skip over lilmurm among a few others. "***
YES. They are disruptors who infringe on other's rights to dicuss the subject matter without spam. "
***" I am getting to the point where I remember what posters to skip over as they talk out their rearend. I have to say that besides Pastor Ron,I now skip over lilmurm among a few others. "***
YES. They are disruptors who infringe on other's rights to dicuss the subject matter without spam. "
jijames50 wrote on Jul 8, 2009 1:32 PM:
" Let's try again, shall we? (Must be "public" education = government brainwashing!) The Tenth Amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States BY THE CONSTITUTION, nor prohibited by it [CONSTITUTION, not Federal Government!] to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, OR TO THE PEOPLE." The Founders clearly did NOT want a centralized government, but separate, sovereign States, held together by the Constitution, NOT Federal Government. The power held by Federal Government has been delegated by the PEOPLE (also that which is absolutely necessary to advancing those powers specifically enumerated in the Constitution). The rest is to be handled by state governments, or locally, by the PEOPLE--got it? The Tenth Amendment was adopted in 1791, after the Constitutional ratification process to emphasize the fact that states were to remain individual and unique sovereignties, empowered in areas the Constitution did not delegate to federal government. Therefore, any attempt by the Federal government to legislate beyond Constitutional limits of Congress’ authority is a usurpation of State sovereignty = unconstitutional. Presidents have NO precedence over States' rights. The Constitution was NOT conceived to strengthen government power, but the power of the PEOPLE! (Must be that "Don't Tread On Me" thing...) Read the Constitution, the Federalist Papers and The Declaration of Independence! It is all there.
PS: Angela, the man is married, darling! And she's a big, bulky thing, beware! "
PS: Angela, the man is married, darling! And she's a big, bulky thing, beware! "
commenter wrote on Jul 8, 2009 1:24 PM:
" I agree with big boy, he's getting "free" publicity for his cabinet business. Nice.
Agree or disagree, I was like, "Maple City Cabinetry" hmmmm.....and if he does get like minded people to come sign his petition, he has a potential sale. Good thinking!! "
Agree or disagree, I was like, "Maple City Cabinetry" hmmmm.....and if he does get like minded people to come sign his petition, he has a potential sale. Good thinking!! "
iluvkauai wrote on Jul 8, 2009 1:20 PM:
" lilmurm, your "truth" is the truth as YOU see it. That does not neccessarily make it 100% TRUE FACT, no matter WHO or WHERE you got your supposedly gospel truth info from. Hillary Clinton was right, it IS patriotic to challenge ANY administration. However, you are so over the top and so heavily indoctrinated in rightwing hysteria and intolerance that you cannot see past your absolute rage and fear. If you are not racist, why are you so scared of Obama's names and the fact that he went to school in a predominently Islamic country for awhile as a child? He started out at an Indonesian public school but later transferred to a private Catholic school there. He had a VERY unusual cultural upbringing, not doubt about that, but he cannot help his heritage or the circumstances of his life or what names his family chose to have him use at certain points in his childhood. Maybe when Obama was a child, his family wanted to protect him from narrow-minded people like you, so they may have felt it was safer for him to use a different variation of his name at certain times. The most important thing is that he used his birth name "Barack Hussein Obama" when he grew into adulthood and later when he ran for the presidency, all the while knowing that people like you would choose to use fear and religious intolerance against him to try to keep him from becoming president. You use it now because you hate everything about him. You can stand up for your personal opinions regarding Obama's presidential agenda and decisions all you want, but your continual bringing up of "mideast", "Islam", or whatever name Obama once used, or where he lived as a child just shows you intend to play into racial and religious fears used by fanatical wingnuts to further their cause and ideals. I definitely do NOT believe everyone who doesn't like Obama or his policies is racist, but boy, you can sure pick out the ones that are! "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 8, 2009 1:18 PM:
" Speaking of ugly......lilmurm you were the one who has hate for the gay community and you want to deny them rights! Pretty sad even when some of those "gays" are fighting and defending your right to make your incoherent rants. Lilmurm are you also posting as pastor ron because you share many of the same views as he does. "
commenter wrote on Jul 8, 2009 1:18 PM:
" Seriously Angelaburge? It's because he's black?
It has nothing to do with the color of his skin, it's the content of his character. "
It has nothing to do with the color of his skin, it's the content of his character. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 8, 2009 1:11 PM:
" i hate to burst your bubble, angelaburge but you're only half right. obamam is bi-racial. white mom and african dad. but hey, go ahead and lay claim to him. you are the racist and probably voted for him because you perceive him to be black. beautiful? no, he is ugly to the core due to his immorality on social issues. better do some more reading. wait, this post is a joke, right? this can't be for real. hahahaha "
angelaburge@sbcglobal.net wrote on Jul 8, 2009 12:52 PM:
" A yea Obama is Black, (and beautiful I might add) and it is a racial issue because if he was a white man no one would be complaining right now because those kind of people would be thinking he knows what he is doing cause he is white but since the President of the United States is Black n Beautiful, ya'll just haters, mad, jealous, never thought this day would come but this president is just planting seeds right now, wait! you will see Barack Obama is a God fearing man but people that know nothing about our Father in Heaven wouldn't be able to see that!! Get to know Jesus and you will see where this wonderful man gets his strength. I love you Obama "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 8, 2009 12:27 PM:
" duhast, duhast. of course a "constitutional lawyer" would certainly know how to circumvent the document, wouldn't he? like how he stated he may bypass senate ratification of the nuclear treaty. look at his speech to the russian students this week then research his comments regarding nuclear weapons/militarism and you'll see what i mean. "
duhast wrote on Jul 8, 2009 12:18 PM:
" lilmurm wrote on Jul 8, 2009 11:47 AM
all you have to do is to read his comments of 20 years ago to observe his pacifist stance
Seriously!! He was 28 and in Law school. What writings are you referring to?? Considering the guy has his Juris Doctor in law from Harvard and taught Constitutional law for 12 years, I’d say he’s a bit more qualified to gauge the 10th amendment than some crazy cabinetmaker from Norwalk. "
all you have to do is to read his comments of 20 years ago to observe his pacifist stance
Seriously!! He was 28 and in Law school. What writings are you referring to?? Considering the guy has his Juris Doctor in law from Harvard and taught Constitutional law for 12 years, I’d say he’s a bit more qualified to gauge the 10th amendment than some crazy cabinetmaker from Norwalk. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 8, 2009 12:13 PM:
" since FST won't be reading my posts, could someone enlighten him/her that obama's other name is barry soetero and that's how he was registered for school in the mideast with national origin "indonesian" and religion "islam". his recently deceased white grandma called him barry as well. as for being patriotic, hillary clinton stated that it's very patriotic for americans to challenge ANY administration but of course, george bush was president at the time. i'm amazed at such hypocrisy. shock, shock!! no, as long as barry leans to socialism/marxism and surrounds himself with the same, i'll expose it. just for fun, look up carol browner and socialists international. she's one of the radicals behind cap and trade although she did not read the bill. shock, shock!! "
duhast wrote on Jul 8, 2009 12:04 PM:
" AMENDMENT X.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states, respectively, or to the people.
That’s it, once sentence. The constitution party tries to use it as cart blanche to claim states have any and all rights not expressly given to the Federal government. I’m not sure exactly why this guy thinks Obama has personally violated the 10th amendment, nor do I see how that would be an impeachable offence. Take a civics class dude. That’s why the Supreme court is there. To “check” executive powers and if necessary “balance” them. "
The powers not delegated to the United States by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states, respectively, or to the people.
That’s it, once sentence. The constitution party tries to use it as cart blanche to claim states have any and all rights not expressly given to the Federal government. I’m not sure exactly why this guy thinks Obama has personally violated the 10th amendment, nor do I see how that would be an impeachable offence. Take a civics class dude. That’s why the Supreme court is there. To “check” executive powers and if necessary “balance” them. "
A Sovereign American wrote on Jul 8, 2009 12:03 PM:
" Lilmurm, Bush's Patriot Act was no mistake either, and what a slap in the face of freedom that was. Deceptively named to make the American people believe that they are unpatriotic, if they do not agree with it. It doesn't matter which party gets elected after Obama, they will continue to pass laws that take our freedom. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 8, 2009 12:00 PM:
" thanks, mikel. i appreciate your support and open mind concerning the truth. keep posting, please. FST, you have an excellent idea regarding skipping over the posts of those with whom you disagree. no one is forced to read my comments. lefties should just bypass them and save themselves the aggravation of reading the truth. i will continue to post legitimate stories exposing obama and the more you choose to support his idealogy, the more foolish you will appear. the rest of us will share the big brother tactics of the cap and trade bill that will rob you of privacy and freedom but hey, just bury your head in the sand and you'll never need to confront the issues. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 8, 2009 11:47 AM:
" iluvkauai, i do consider myself an activist and i do spend a great deal of effort on research, not just blogging as i have a lot of time to do so. it's funny how anyone against barry's agenda is considered racist but that's a typical argument from the liberals as a diversion. yes, all presidents make mistakes whether republican or democrat but what he's doing is not a mistake. it's a blatant attempt to downgrade our country and remake it into his idealogy of the community organizer. all you have to do is to read his comments of 20 years ago to observe his pacifist stance which he exhibited in russia this week. he makes no secret that he is interested in a global order that denies the greatness of america and places us as equals with regimes who hate liberty, oppress their citizens and promote terrorism. no, we've never had a president such as this before. i'm no bill clinton fan but even he was not out to destroy 233 years of heritage. go right on defending our loss of freedom that the country will experince if all his bills pass but remember that once they're gone, we probably will not get them back. thankfully, his schemes won't affect my family and myself very much because of the changes i've made and continue to make in my life but the very ones who will feel the impact the most, don't seem to care and that is a pity. this is not fear mongering but rather pointing out that obama is america's chamberlain. "
jijames50 wrote on Jul 8, 2009 11:41 AM:
" Forgot to mention to the Libs posting in this MB that the 'Tenth Amendment' mentioned in the article actually exists. Yes!, and can be found in that lil' book called 'The United States Constitution'! Ever heard of it? Most of you writing here should read it before exposing your ignorance of what the Founding Fathers actually planned for this country--and it ain't Big Government by the way... "
A Sovereign American wrote on Jul 8, 2009 11:40 AM:
" War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, and democrats and republicans are 2 separate parties. "
mikel wrote on Jul 8, 2009 11:36 AM:
" for all of you obamass supporters you are not alone! the communist party of america also loves him! just look at their website: cpusa.org. read it, digest it and we will talk to all of you comrades later. as for lilmurm, keep strong! "
jijames50 wrote on Jul 8, 2009 11:33 AM:
" 'Not everyone is a fan of President Barack [Hussein] Obama'? No way!!!! Can't be true... Someone in the media actually wrote that?! I can't believe they even conceive the remote possibility of "The Chosen One," "The Messiah," "THE One" not being loved by everyone in the world!!!!! After all, people who don't like Hussein Obama, ARE racists, right?
'If you smear hard and long it does produce results and can make you an ambassador.' I guess, jimbo, they did learn it from your friends from the Democrat Party... "
'If you smear hard and long it does produce results and can make you an ambassador.' I guess, jimbo, they did learn it from your friends from the Democrat Party... "
FST wrote on Jul 8, 2009 11:28 AM:
" I am getting to the point where I remember what posters to skip over as they talk out their rearend. I have to say that besides Pastor Ron,I now skip over lilmurm among a few others. These people actually think Bush was a good leader,and if Bush and Chaney isn`t getting charged with treason,what makes them think President Obama would be after only 6 months? President Obama has a lot of good ideas and that is why he won over the others. Many of us supported Bush only because he was our President,Not because we approved of how he was running our country. President Obama has a VERY hard job. Many people in other countries hate America because of how corrupt it had become.Obama is TRYING to turn things around so we have more friends than foes.Everybody knows how corrupt our government has become and he has a very thick wall to knock down.Mr.Obama is doing his best to give the American people a reason to be proud of our great country again. Most people I have talked to say they would be more than willing to pay a little extra at the pumps and stores if it will give EVERYBODY some kind of health care because it costs every one of us soo much more to take care of those who do not make enough money to survive let alone pay the high cost of health insurance.
lilmurm,it`s one thing to know what is happening.It`s another thing to DO something about it beside babble on a local newspaper. By the way,our Presidents name is BARAK OBAMA. Not barry. Where is your patriotism anyway? A TRUE American would at least give our new Commander and Chief a chance to fix what the previous administration had messed up. I don`t even bother reading your posts from this point on as you rattle off about things you hear on TV or radio. Not everything you see or hear on TV is real or true. "
lilmurm,it`s one thing to know what is happening.It`s another thing to DO something about it beside babble on a local newspaper. By the way,our Presidents name is BARAK OBAMA. Not barry. Where is your patriotism anyway? A TRUE American would at least give our new Commander and Chief a chance to fix what the previous administration had messed up. I don`t even bother reading your posts from this point on as you rattle off about things you hear on TV or radio. Not everything you see or hear on TV is real or true. "
iluvkauai wrote on Jul 8, 2009 11:17 AM:
" lilmurm, you yourself are a "sheeple" who simply reinforces your reputation as a raging wingnut with every post you submit on here. I personally do not "worship" Obama. There are things I admire about him, things that I do not agree with him on and things that I do. Lilmurm, I cannot "debate" with you on every minute detail of every single issue because frankly, I HAVE A LIFE! I cannot spend every waking hour reading political blogs and searching newspapers,listening to talk radio or TV and writing on public forums endlessly trying to hammer home my personal viewpoints to the "uneducated". I know what my basic core beliefs are and no amount of arguing back and forth will change my mind, or yours either. I am firm in how I look at the world and how I feel about the issues. So are you. I accept and respect the fact that our country is made of up many diverse people with differing thoughts and ideas of change that I won't always understand or agree with, but hey, that's America! Evidently that is not how you see it. My problem with you is that you seem to feel everyone must be in agreement with EVERYTHING you write or else we are stupid, blind, unpatriotic and un-American. I think most of us would take you more seriously if you didn't make it so apparent that you buy into every iota of rightwing fear-mongering and the barely concealed racism that you ultra-conservative "teabaggers" hold in your hearts. (Has anyone noticed all the racist signs and hateful remarks directed at Obama at these tea bag rallies that are SUPPOSED to be bi-partisan protests on tax and spend?) I do not choose to live with a paranoid,irrational fear of our new president,nor will I spend all my time feverishly researching and writing about every aspect of presidential policy and taking out of context and exaggerating every single utterance that is made by Democrats OR Republicans, liberals OR conservatives. Obama will make mistakes, George Bush made mistakes. No one's political ideology is correct EVERY time! Bottom line is: the people spoke in November and YOU simply cannot deal with the fact that your "side" lost. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 8, 2009 10:38 AM:
" People assume that they are debating with their neighbors or local posters, not necessarily so.
Could be posted by people working for Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, they used the same smear tactics on Kerry. Could be boiler plate from any state in
the union.
Some of the posts are boiler plate SBVT.
If you smear hard and long it does produce results
and can make you an ambassador. "
Could be posted by people working for Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, they used the same smear tactics on Kerry. Could be boiler plate from any state in
the union.
Some of the posts are boiler plate SBVT.
If you smear hard and long it does produce results
and can make you an ambassador. "
A Sovereign American wrote on Jul 8, 2009 10:20 AM:
" stepham- I'm white also, and I don't know anyone who dislikes Obama because he is black, it's because of what he is doing. The bills he already passed are going to take more freedom away, just like when Bush was in office. You were taught in school that we have 2 separate parties, democrat and republican. This is reinforced through TV, radio and family & friends who also attended public school and have been incredibly brainwashed and indoctrinated as well, so was I. The curriculum for all public schools is decided and regulated by the government, and so is what you see on the news. Their criminal behavior, past, and present is not being taught, or talked about on TV. Free speech...don't go there, we don't have it(other than the internet, but they want to regulate that too). The two parties have the same goals in the end. The Obama Deception is a must see documentary, on Yotube, very informative and it will make anyone who thinks Obama is doing a great job very mad. quotes from two of the puppet masters who are/were pulling Obama's strings, and the strings of past presidents:
.."We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." - James Warburg council on foreign relations member, 1950..
"We are grateful to The Washington Post, New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." -David Rockefeller, 1991, but I learned in school, the Rockefellers were "good people" "
.."We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." - James Warburg council on foreign relations member, 1950..
"We are grateful to The Washington Post, New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." -David Rockefeller, 1991, but I learned in school, the Rockefellers were "good people" "
duhast wrote on Jul 8, 2009 10:16 AM:
" There were no issues in your post to debate, only endless ranting. "lefties are going to..." "Barry wants to..." "he loves to...". Much volume, little substance. "
pepenik99 wrote on Jul 8, 2009 9:58 AM:
" The first thing I would do if I were you would be to turn off your radio and quit letting Rush Limbaugh fill your head with anti-american fear mongering garbage. You should be smart enough to realize that your mini store cannot impeach a sitting president. You just raise trouble. But then, I am not you.
Posting to a newspaper and newspaper articles like yours gives people a sounding board just to be heard and then the issue usually goes away. And you just feel good because you were heard for your 15 seconds of fame.....but it usally doesn't change much....feel better? Good, if you do. But you would feel much better if you would not let fear mongering upset your natural good nature. "
Posting to a newspaper and newspaper articles like yours gives people a sounding board just to be heard and then the issue usually goes away. And you just feel good because you were heard for your 15 seconds of fame.....but it usally doesn't change much....feel better? Good, if you do. But you would feel much better if you would not let fear mongering upset your natural good nature. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 8, 2009 9:44 AM:
" and the sheeple heard his voice and followed him off a cliff. really, some of you posters worry me with your obama worship-it's beginning to border on a disorder. i had to laugh out loud when i read the previous comments and name calling because i can hear the pure panic in the writings as barry's agenda is slowly unfolding. i know some are so afraid of the truth that they eshew all "rightwing" newscasts but i usually reference where the lead stories are coming from. some are from AP wires, POLITICO, the wall street journal and the washington times. hardly right wing mouthpieces. even some of fox and drudge's reports are from AP, etc. my goal is for any undecided voters reading the SR to read my posts and investigate further for THEMSELVES in order to make an intelligent decision. click on to these websites and study what's happening out there in obamaland and decide for yourself. when president bush was in office, he was called every name under the sun, including a murderer and the left suggested he be tried for war crimes and inprisoned. the media relentlessly ridiculed him regularly and the lefties cheered them on. the lefties here would love a crackdown on free speech so barry could have free rein in destroying america. ain't gonna happen so get over it. just think, his approval rating plunged 13 points in ohio over the past 2 months. imagine what it will be like in november 2010 when the democrats lose congress. you people need to grow up and be adults. it would be so refreshing for any of you to debate the issues instead of blindly following the blind. you know what else is really funny is that you buy into barry's compassion of supporting the non producers but he prefers to do it with other peoples' money. you know the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money to spend. anyway, instead of supporting his illegal aunt in boston, he prefers that the american taxpayers do so in the way of metro housing, etc. his brother in kenya lives on what-$1 month i believe they say. yes, he loves to spend our money and expects us to subsidize his illegal aunt while he allows his brother to live in squalor. there's and old saying that charity begins at home but it's so much more fun for barry to spend your money, isn't it? LOL "
Gardenman wrote on Jul 8, 2009 9:24 AM:
" Where was this guy for the past 8 years when George W. Bush was in office. He needs to take a real good look at Bush and what he did to get this nation in the mess it was in when Obama came to power. Take a look at the senseless deaths in Iraq from GWB Texas cowboy style of politics.
This guy better look back to Nov 2006 when voters said relatively clear Republicans were not taking this country in the right direction. The message the voters sent in Nov 2008 was distictly clear that Republicans no longer could run this country in any valible manner.
Like I say where Rick Hills years ago for if he cared about this county and what he considers its future he would have started a petition to impeach the clown we had in the White House from Texas. "
This guy better look back to Nov 2006 when voters said relatively clear Republicans were not taking this country in the right direction. The message the voters sent in Nov 2008 was distictly clear that Republicans no longer could run this country in any valible manner.
Like I say where Rick Hills years ago for if he cared about this county and what he considers its future he would have started a petition to impeach the clown we had in the White House from Texas. "
Larry wrote on Jul 8, 2009 9:20 AM:
" I have read all the pro's and con's and I'm convinced that there is plenty of blame to go around for our current situation. I would have to believe the actions or inactions of our congress over the past 20 years has to be a major contributor.
However, before you impeach Obama you should at least consider the outcome. We would then have President Biden and Vice President Pelosi. This would keep me up at night !!!! "
However, before you impeach Obama you should at least consider the outcome. We would then have President Biden and Vice President Pelosi. This would keep me up at night !!!! "
stepham2009 wrote on Jul 8, 2009 9:05 AM:
" IMPEACH OBAMA huh? Maybe you should've had that sign in the window when Bush was DESTROYING our country single-handedly!!! Obama is doing a GREAT job, and the ONLY reason you want him impeached is because of two things: His name and his color. I am a white woman and I cannot tell you how many ignorant remarks white people say to me everyday concerning our PRESIDENT and the color of his skin or name, then when they find out I TOTALLY support him, they stand there red-faced in embarassment that their racist side showed to someone who does not think like them. I say lets get a petition going to CLOSE YOUR STORE DOWN! In fact anyone on here who would like to get a petition going to close down Maple City Cabinetry let me know via this site and I will send you my e-mail information!!! We NEED universal healthcare-because of the lack of it my baby sister died at the age of 37 from colon cancer because she did not qualify for any state healthcare, her job was a small restaurant who couldn't afford to offer health insurance, and she could not afford to pay for private insurance. If you don't want it then don't sign up for it. I'm sure your old enough to get medicare so you don't care whether anyone else has insurance or not. Oh by the way, next time you pose for a picture for the paper, make sure you're not wearing the shirt you just drop food all down the front of! What a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 8, 2009 8:58 AM:
" duhast wrote on Jul 8, 2009 8:07 AM:
‘…he was saying the LOW skill and LOW pay jobs were not coming back because Americans could not live on the same wages third world countries can.’
Nope. Read it again.
He was referring to low-skill, high-paying jobs like factory and auto mfging jobs.
Retail jobs are the low-skilled, low-paying jobs; they’re difficult to offshore.
As for those jobs he mentioned, those take education. Speaking of re-training is easy. Getting an unemployed off 50 yr. old guy or gal to re-train is a whole other story.
In the end, economic protectionism will not work. It leads to poor quality and high monetary inflation.
Know this: Approx. 80% of a business' expenses are labor costs.
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Watch the 10 yr. U.S. Treasury Bond auction today.
The U.S. is pumping out so much debt that one of these days we may have trouble selling it.
The U.K. had problems selling their gilts a couple of weeks ago.
Also, China used the yuan instead of the U.S. dollar for border trades the other day:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124692690965103237.html
There are serious implications to the health of our currency with this experiment.
Gotta go; see ya around! "
‘…he was saying the LOW skill and LOW pay jobs were not coming back because Americans could not live on the same wages third world countries can.’
Nope. Read it again.
He was referring to low-skill, high-paying jobs like factory and auto mfging jobs.
Retail jobs are the low-skilled, low-paying jobs; they’re difficult to offshore.
As for those jobs he mentioned, those take education. Speaking of re-training is easy. Getting an unemployed off 50 yr. old guy or gal to re-train is a whole other story.
In the end, economic protectionism will not work. It leads to poor quality and high monetary inflation.
Know this: Approx. 80% of a business' expenses are labor costs.
-----------
Watch the 10 yr. U.S. Treasury Bond auction today.
The U.S. is pumping out so much debt that one of these days we may have trouble selling it.
The U.K. had problems selling their gilts a couple of weeks ago.
Also, China used the yuan instead of the U.S. dollar for border trades the other day:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124692690965103237.html
There are serious implications to the health of our currency with this experiment.
Gotta go; see ya around! "
duhast wrote on Jul 8, 2009 8:52 AM:
" Chung Lee. Noting that lilmurm's posts all lack capitalization, I'd say she got herself a blackberry or other web phone and is connected 24/7. She's just ignoring us.... "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 8, 2009 8:46 AM:
" Jimbo there is a Wingnut Manual? It has to be audio book because many of these knuckle draggers can't read or spell. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 8, 2009 8:30 AM:
" Where lilmurm? It has been more than 12 hours and no post? Chung Lee think lilmurm probably out buying ammo like a lot of these right wing wacko types have been doing or maybe already hunkered down in the "truth" bunker waiting for standoff. Chung Lee think not so good idea to post personal information on this blog because it very clear there are some very unstable people on these blogs. Have nice day. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 8, 2009 8:23 AM:
" " Wingnut manual, page 33:
Have more than one screen name, no one can see your IP and that will give you the opportunity play the innocent, nice person, that just wants to debate the
issues.
Once you take the heat off your propaganda posting screen name, you can hit with the nebulous posts, and back them up with links to wing nut web sites.
If someone posts a comment pointing out a republican blunder, just ignore them.
Stick by the book people! "
Have more than one screen name, no one can see your IP and that will give you the opportunity play the innocent, nice person, that just wants to debate the
issues.
Once you take the heat off your propaganda posting screen name, you can hit with the nebulous posts, and back them up with links to wing nut web sites.
If someone posts a comment pointing out a republican blunder, just ignore them.
Stick by the book people! "
duhast wrote on Jul 8, 2009 8:10 AM:
" ...So I guess the answer to the question is, not all of these jobs are going to come back. And it probably wouldn't be good for our economy for a bunch of these jobs to come back because, frankly, there's no way that people could be getting paid a living wage on some of these jobs -- at least in order to be competitive in an international setting.
So what we've got to do is create new jobs that can't be outsourced. "
So what we've got to do is create new jobs that can't be outsourced. "
duhast wrote on Jul 8, 2009 8:07 AM:
" Winston, Winston, Winston. Typical. Take one snippet out of context and twist to around. If you read the transcript, he was saying the LOW skill and LOW pay jobs were not coming back because Americans could not live on the same wages third world countries can. Try posting the whole paragraph. Here it is…
Now, a lot of the outsourcing that was referred to in the question really has to do with the fact that our economy -- if it's dependent on low-wage, low-skill labor, it's very hard to hang on to those jobs because there's always a country out there that pays lower wages than the U.S. And so we've got to go after the high-skill, high-wage jobs of the future. That's why it's so important to train our folks more effectively and that's why it's so important for us to find new industries -- building solar panels or wind turbines or the new biofuel -- that involve these higher-value, higher-skill, higher-paying jobs. "
Now, a lot of the outsourcing that was referred to in the question really has to do with the fact that our economy -- if it's dependent on low-wage, low-skill labor, it's very hard to hang on to those jobs because there's always a country out there that pays lower wages than the U.S. And so we've got to go after the high-skill, high-wage jobs of the future. That's why it's so important to train our folks more effectively and that's why it's so important for us to find new industries -- building solar panels or wind turbines or the new biofuel -- that involve these higher-value, higher-skill, higher-paying jobs. "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 8, 2009 7:47 AM:
" kURT wrote on Jul 8, 2009 5:04 AM:
‘…why Rush did not go to Vietnam.’
I love how ol' Commie kURT tends to see the people of the world in two camps - civilians and non-civilians.
Less than 2% of the service men and women who served in the 60s and 70s went to ‘Nam.
Just because one was in the service in the 60s and 70s, a trip to ‘Nam was not an automatic.
Why didn’t LBJ serve? As POTUS, LBJ did go to ‘Nam.
(Was that war criminal McNamara your hero?)
Why didn’t Clinton serve? Didn’t Clinton lie to the Draft Board?
Why didn’t Obama serve?
Why didn’t Joe Biden serve?
‘Biden received five student draft deferments …with the first coming in late 1963 and the last in early 1968, at the peak of the Vietnam War.[18]’
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden "
‘…why Rush did not go to Vietnam.’
I love how ol' Commie kURT tends to see the people of the world in two camps - civilians and non-civilians.
Less than 2% of the service men and women who served in the 60s and 70s went to ‘Nam.
Just because one was in the service in the 60s and 70s, a trip to ‘Nam was not an automatic.
Why didn’t LBJ serve? As POTUS, LBJ did go to ‘Nam.
(Was that war criminal McNamara your hero?)
Why didn’t Clinton serve? Didn’t Clinton lie to the Draft Board?
Why didn’t Obama serve?
Why didn’t Joe Biden serve?
‘Biden received five student draft deferments …with the first coming in late 1963 and the last in early 1968, at the peak of the Vietnam War.[18]’
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 8, 2009 7:44 AM:
" You Obamabots really need to read and/or listen to what your sock puppet of a President says:
In his Thurs. Mar. 26th, 2009 Town Hall Mtg., Pres. Obama said that the jobs which have been shipped overseas are pretty much never going to come back and that it wouldn’t be a good thing if they did:
‘...not all of these jobs are going to come back. And it probably wouldn't be good for our economy for a bunch of these jobs to come back because, frankly, there's no way that people could be getting paid a living wage on some of these jobs -- at least in order to be competitive in an international setting.’
See: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/us/politics/26text-obama.html?pagewanted=all
He admitted that the days of the high pay-low skilled jobs are over. (Huh. Guess it wasn't Reagan's or W’s fault after all.)
If you want a job in the future Obama said: Get educated.
It’s the same old song with a different singer. "
In his Thurs. Mar. 26th, 2009 Town Hall Mtg., Pres. Obama said that the jobs which have been shipped overseas are pretty much never going to come back and that it wouldn’t be a good thing if they did:
‘...not all of these jobs are going to come back. And it probably wouldn't be good for our economy for a bunch of these jobs to come back because, frankly, there's no way that people could be getting paid a living wage on some of these jobs -- at least in order to be competitive in an international setting.’
See: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/us/politics/26text-obama.html?pagewanted=all
He admitted that the days of the high pay-low skilled jobs are over. (Huh. Guess it wasn't Reagan's or W’s fault after all.)
If you want a job in the future Obama said: Get educated.
It’s the same old song with a different singer. "
nomad wrote on Jul 8, 2009 6:42 AM:
" I am not mad nor do I feel that I am backed into a corner. What I do like to do is listen to both sides and make my own decision from there. Do I think President Obama needs to be impeached? Absolutely not! It takes longer than 6 months to get your own house in order after bad times let alone an entire country. I simply asked that question because I have heard lilmurm and others who think as he/she does and wanted to hear your opinions as well. I am far from a wingnut jimbo hehe. Chung lee, you throw your jabs in but have good facts to back your story. Duhast, always a respectful inteligent debator "
kURT wrote on Jul 8, 2009 5:04 AM:
" Hey lilmurm........just a little history about Rush. Since you have a PC, find out why Rush did not go to Vietnam. Disturbing. That is one of the many reasons why I think people like Rush should be FORCED to serve. p.s. Rush "had" a medical condition. "
kath2860 wrote on Jul 8, 2009 12:29 AM:
" To iluvkauai, chung lee, santownresident, love the points you made and couldn't agree more. And to MHL, I agree that this lilmurm character IS disturbing as well as appearing DISTURBED and possibly demented. People like him/her would be a whole lot more credible in their proclamations of patriotism if they weren't so obviously bigoted and partisan. Duhast, thanks for the link to the Constitution Party. Very disturbing. "
ModernDayBootlegger wrote on Jul 8, 2009 12:15 AM:
" Also, Obozo's "approval" rating in Ohio was a whopping 49-44%. Hardly a glowing endorsement of his time in office to date. "
ModernDayBootlegger wrote on Jul 8, 2009 12:13 AM:
" Keep on tryin' Lilmurm.
Speak out against the liberal Dem. Messiah on a forum in liberal Dem. Erie County, and you're already in the minority.
How ironic that when someone disagrees with Obozo,
we are questioned about being "racist", but Hancrack and his ilk take direct racial shots at Hills and nobody says word one.
Ric's business will THRIVE because of this as it has generated foot traffic that otherwise would have never been realized. This was a heartfelt political 1st Ammendment issue that has dovetailed in to a brilliant marketing campaign. Good luck with your impeachment papers, and continue success in your business ventures.
By the by, the landlord should be taken to task here for his request to move the signage indoors. "
Speak out against the liberal Dem. Messiah on a forum in liberal Dem. Erie County, and you're already in the minority.
How ironic that when someone disagrees with Obozo,
we are questioned about being "racist", but Hancrack and his ilk take direct racial shots at Hills and nobody says word one.
Ric's business will THRIVE because of this as it has generated foot traffic that otherwise would have never been realized. This was a heartfelt political 1st Ammendment issue that has dovetailed in to a brilliant marketing campaign. Good luck with your impeachment papers, and continue success in your business ventures.
By the by, the landlord should be taken to task here for his request to move the signage indoors. "
countrycowboy wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:54 PM:
" I feel sorry for lilmurm, you know she is just some boresd, pointless woman screaming her head off with her hands over her ears. Why don't you find something productive to do, listen instead of talking for once. Get out and find out what "Basic American values" are. I will tell you one of them is democracy and the liberty to change. The American people spoke loud and clear in November now you need to come to terms with it. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:38 PM:
" Chung Lee mad at that liberal media because they make things up like the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986. Anybody know who was President when this passed? Chung Lee wonder why democrats get criticized for legalizing people here illegally, but ignore the fact that many of the people came here in the last 8 year.
Chung Lee would feel lika a real a-hole if he break car by running car out of oil but then would blame mechanic for no fix in 1 hour. Why can people who created this mess complain when try fix? "
Chung Lee would feel lika a real a-hole if he break car by running car out of oil but then would blame mechanic for no fix in 1 hour. Why can people who created this mess complain when try fix? "
Duhast wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:25 PM:
" We put caps on the 20 million illegals and trade them to China. Seriously, nobody is giving 20 million illegals citizenship and cap and trade may or may not work. Wait and see. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:18 PM:
" Wingnut moves, page 32:
When backed into a corner ask a nebulous question:
Example: How will cap and trade, 20 million illegals getting citizenship benefit all of us?
That will give you the opportunity to change the
subject. (works better if you work with a sock
puppet to back you up). "
When backed into a corner ask a nebulous question:
Example: How will cap and trade, 20 million illegals getting citizenship benefit all of us?
That will give you the opportunity to change the
subject. (works better if you work with a sock
puppet to back you up). "
DooDah wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:07 PM:
" Hey Ric! Head down the street to the new Sears Hometown Store and git you a washin' machine. "
nomad wrote on Jul 7, 2009 9:58 PM:
" To Chung Lee, jimbo and Duhast, how will cap and trade, 20 million illegals getting citizenship benefit all of us? This is not attacking you guys, but simply want your opinions. "
MHL wrote on Jul 7, 2009 9:46 PM:
" Sorry ignore the M after PA I was refreeing to the not in Pennsylvania who though Obama was going to take his guns,not to be confused with the Right wing nut who shot the abortion doctor in the most sacred of all places CHURCH!! Or the right wing nut who shot up the holocaust museum , or the right wing nuts who post under the names of >>>>>>>>>>>Oh nevermind. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 7, 2009 9:40 PM:
" On Chung Lee house a #2 means open windows for 1 hour and no light match for 2 hour. "
MHL wrote on Jul 7, 2009 9:39 PM:
" AHHH! I have not posted for a couple months ,but could not hold my tounge any longer. I agree with Chung Lee any trip to Norwalk should be by accident only!! There is no special trip to Norwalk!!
Lilmurm I hope Homeland Security is watching you as you are very disturbing. I challenge you to release your so called credible news sources for all your so called news releases.The following sources are wingnuts and do not cout. Limbaugh,Hannity,Wilcow, Savage ,Church,Levin,OReilly,Beck,Drudge,Fox News.
I hope you aren`t "clinging to your Guns And Religion" like the wingnut in PAm who killed 3 cops because he feared Obama was going yo take them.
I voted for Obama and am not ashamed. The only problem I have so far with Obama is for a "socialist" he is failing miserably as Wall Street has risen 35 percent since he took office.LOL "
Lilmurm I hope Homeland Security is watching you as you are very disturbing. I challenge you to release your so called credible news sources for all your so called news releases.The following sources are wingnuts and do not cout. Limbaugh,Hannity,Wilcow, Savage ,Church,Levin,OReilly,Beck,Drudge,Fox News.
I hope you aren`t "clinging to your Guns And Religion" like the wingnut in PAm who killed 3 cops because he feared Obama was going yo take them.
I voted for Obama and am not ashamed. The only problem I have so far with Obama is for a "socialist" he is failing miserably as Wall Street has risen 35 percent since he took office.LOL "
jimbo wrote on Jul 7, 2009 9:38 PM:
" RE: Chung Lee
In my house a number two is a sit down occasion. "
In my house a number two is a sit down occasion. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 7, 2009 9:34 PM:
" What happened to all the wingnuts?
A republican takes stimulus money from a democrat
and hands it out like candy.
Does that make her a socialist, communist, traitor,
or should she be impeached? "
A republican takes stimulus money from a democrat
and hands it out like candy.
Does that make her a socialist, communist, traitor,
or should she be impeached? "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 7, 2009 9:13 PM:
" "Special trip to Norwalk"? Chung Lee didn't know a trip to Norwalk could be special. If "trip to Norwalk" was on menu it would be a #2. Chung Lee would order and say yes I would like to take a special #2. Chung Lee think that sound pretty stupid. "
Louie wrote on Jul 7, 2009 8:42 PM:
" Next time I go over to Norwalk I will stop here and sign this petition for sure.I might even make a special trip to do so. "
hancrack me up wrote on Jul 7, 2009 8:35 PM:
" I bet he's got a whole big cabinet full of sheets & an Imperial Wizard cape in the back room of that store. I often wondered where they all dwelled in this area-now I know. "
iluvkauai wrote on Jul 7, 2009 7:37 PM:
" Good posts, Chung Lee and santownresident. Sadly, people like lilmurm are not inclined to consider any other viewpoint than their own. They won't even meet you halfway. It's THEIR ideology or the highway. Getting lilmurm to have a calm, rational discourse on anything is like trying to get Rep. John Boehner to stay out of the tanning booth and crack a smile once in awhile. Notice how lilmurm has to resort to the "Barry Hussein" thing? I believe that's because limurm and other like minded people simply cannot believe that our great democracy elected a bi-racial man with a name that scares the bejesus out of them. They are scared to death that someone who is not of their color, and who they think is a Muslim, is now our leader. limurm and friends are scared sh*tless. They never thought something like this could happen!lilmurm's over the top rantings, like saying Obama is committing treason or comparing him to Hitler, just serve to prove lilmurm is full of fear. I honestly feel sorry for lilmurm because he/she is posting on here constantly. Poor lilmurm's whole existence seems to be focused on beating the stuffing out of us with his/her ideological "fact" stick until we surrender. It's only 6 months into a 4 year term. Despite what lilmurm says about "the polls", Obama still has a high approval rating nationwide, because most rational people are willing to give him a bit more of a chance. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 7, 2009 7:35 PM:
" State Senator Karen L. Gillmor (R) announced federal stimulus projects in her Senate district. The money for these projects in her district, authorized by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, will be used to build roads and bridges, purchase equipment for cash-strapped local and county governments, help feed low-income children through the National School Lunch Program, and help retrain displaced workers for reentry to the job market.
“The eight counties I represent will be receiving over $61 million in Recovery Act funds and will have the opportunity to access additional dollars in multi-county allocations,” Gillmor said. “In this time of economic recession, our citizens can benefit from these project funds.”
Counties in the 26th Senate District will receive:
Crawford Total: $12,855,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $11,540,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $92,000
• National School Lunch Program: $44,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $550,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $602,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $27,000
Logan Total: $4,713,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $1,270,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $2,861,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $324,000
• Public Housing Capital Fund: $236,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $22,000
Crawford Total: $12,855,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $11,540,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $92,000
• National School Lunch Program: $44,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $550,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $602,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $27,000
Logan Total: $4,713,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $1,270,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $2,861,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $324,000
• Public Housing Capital Fund: $236,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $22,000
Sandusky Total: $11,065,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $3,046,000
• National School Lunch Program: $10,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $7,265,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $624,000
• Public Housing Capital Fund: $91,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $28,000
Seneca Total: $4,223,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $2,010,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $1,547,000
• National School Lunch Program: $18,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $618,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $30,000
Union Total: $5,622,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $380,000
• National School Lunch Program: $4,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $4,993,000
• State Clean Diesel Program: $26,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $208,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $12,000
Wyandot Total: $1,764,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $500,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $993,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $262,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $9,000
Additional information on Recovery Act projects, by county, can be viewed at recovery.ohio.gov/accountability/counties/.
Gillmor represents the 26th Senate district covering all of Crawford, Logan, Marion, Sandusky, Union, and Wyandot counties as well as parts of Seneca and Ottawa counties. "
“The eight counties I represent will be receiving over $61 million in Recovery Act funds and will have the opportunity to access additional dollars in multi-county allocations,” Gillmor said. “In this time of economic recession, our citizens can benefit from these project funds.”
Counties in the 26th Senate District will receive:
Crawford Total: $12,855,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $11,540,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $92,000
• National School Lunch Program: $44,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $550,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $602,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $27,000
Logan Total: $4,713,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $1,270,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $2,861,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $324,000
• Public Housing Capital Fund: $236,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $22,000
Crawford Total: $12,855,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $11,540,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $92,000
• National School Lunch Program: $44,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $550,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $602,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $27,000
Logan Total: $4,713,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $1,270,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $2,861,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $324,000
• Public Housing Capital Fund: $236,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $22,000
Sandusky Total: $11,065,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $3,046,000
• National School Lunch Program: $10,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $7,265,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $624,000
• Public Housing Capital Fund: $91,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $28,000
Seneca Total: $4,223,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $2,010,000
• Transportation Rural Transit: $1,547,000
• National School Lunch Program: $18,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $618,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $30,000
Union Total: $5,622,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $380,000
• National School Lunch Program: $4,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $4,993,000
• State Clean Diesel Program: $26,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $208,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $12,000
Wyandot Total: $1,764,000
• Transportation Roads, Bridges and Rails: $500,000
• Clean Water State Revolving Fund: $993,000
• Workforce Investment Act: $262,000
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program: $9,000
Additional information on Recovery Act projects, by county, can be viewed at recovery.ohio.gov/accountability/counties/.
Gillmor represents the 26th Senate district covering all of Crawford, Logan, Marion, Sandusky, Union, and Wyandot counties as well as parts of Seneca and Ottawa counties. "
santownresident wrote on Jul 7, 2009 6:41 PM:
" Instead of whining about Obama just let his presidency play out. At the end of his term then judge what has been done. To argue now only shows that you are biased and bitter you lost the election. Therefore your gripe has no creditability with me. I voted for Obama and I hope he doesn't hurt the country but I'm not gonna let you tell me that. His actions will speak for itself when it's all said and done, then I will evaluate. Until then I prefer not to hear grown men/women cry and whine for the next 3 and a half years. Spare me. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 7, 2009 6:08 PM:
" Chung Lee can see that it is very difficult for "lilmurm" to engage in honest debate. Lilmurm claims that all of his/her/it information is backed up but then admits that Obama will not be convicted?????? Lilmurm you are clearly an idiot. Just because 100% of the people don't agree on a certain issue doesn't make somebody a traitor. If you don't like the democracy that we have here where majority rules, maybe you can find a theocracy fitting your you idiotic ideals and misrepresentation of the facts. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 7, 2009 5:26 PM:
" just because barry has not been convicted of treason does not mean he's not a traitor to this country. my conclusion and that of many americans is based on facts from reputable news sources which i usually name when posting here. will he ever be convicted? it's highly unlikely due to left wing control of congress. a president takes an oath to uphold, defend and protect the constitution of the united states yet he has disregarded it completely. even some members of his own party in congress criticize his over reaching of executive power. his bashing of america to foreign governments does nothing but undermine our sovereignty and security. his ego won't allow him to do what's best for the US but rather what appears to elevate his status. chung lee, you're another one who will not come out and support his radical agenda line by line but would rather bash the opposition. do you have a problem with barry placing self declared socialists in his governing circle who will make national policy? just curious if you have the guts to publicly defend the particulars of his idealogies which go against basic american values. "
duhast wrote on Jul 7, 2009 5:08 PM:
" Yes, I am familiar with the bill. However, the bicameral bill has not been sent to the president as of yet. Things ALWAYS change in that process. Wait and see the final bill before you get your knickers in a twist. The CBO estimate study is from 2001. In a recent letter to the ways and means committee, the estimated average household cost was around $165 per person per year. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 7, 2009 5:00 PM:
" Lilmurm claims all statements are fact? Chung Lee would like to know which network referred to Obama as a traitor as your 3:35 post indicates? In Chung Lee country a person is convicted of treason is called traitor. Chung Lee would like some details about this conviction because apparently the liberal media have ignored this story! Chung Lee wait but pretty sure no honest answer coming. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 7, 2009 4:45 PM:
" RE;nuclear power is safe-fewer americans have died from nuclear accidents than in ted kennedy's car.
This wingnut comment keeps popping up under different
names, but is boiler plate, and nebulous.
Fact:
The companies that own almost half the nation’s nuclear reactors are not setting aside enough money to dismantle them, and many may sit idle for decades and pose safety and security risks as a result, an Associated Press investigation has found.
The shortfalls are caused not by fluctuating appetites for nuclear power but by the stock market and other investments, which have suffered huge losses over the past year and devastated the plants’ savings, and by the soaring costs of decommissioning.
At 19 nuclear plants, owners have won approval to idle reactors for as long as 60 years, presumably enough time to allow investments to recover and eventually pay for dismantling the plants and removing radioactive material.
But mothballing nuclear reactors or shutting them down inadequately presents the most severe of risks. Radioactive waste could leak from abandoned plants into ground water or released into the air, and spent nuclear fuel rods could be stolen by terrorists.
During the past two years, estimates of dismantling costs have soared by more than $4.6 billion because rising energy and labor costs, while the investment funds that are supposed to pay for shutting plants down have lost $4.4 billion in the battered stock market.
The power companies have been hammered by the same declining market returns as colleges, companies and private investors. Industry critics say reactor owners weren’t saving enough even before the financial collapse, and that federal regulators have not held the industry to a high enough standard.
Federal regulators are expected to release a report later this week that will describe shortfalls at 30 of the nation’s 104 nuclear plants and ask operators for details about how they plan to resolve the problem.
The amount of money set aside for dismantling the plants has decreased at almost four of every five reactors, according to an AP analysis of financial records provided every other year to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. The government could force plant operators to set aside more money.
All this to say: Wish in one hand....... "
This wingnut comment keeps popping up under different
names, but is boiler plate, and nebulous.
Fact:
The companies that own almost half the nation’s nuclear reactors are not setting aside enough money to dismantle them, and many may sit idle for decades and pose safety and security risks as a result, an Associated Press investigation has found.
The shortfalls are caused not by fluctuating appetites for nuclear power but by the stock market and other investments, which have suffered huge losses over the past year and devastated the plants’ savings, and by the soaring costs of decommissioning.
At 19 nuclear plants, owners have won approval to idle reactors for as long as 60 years, presumably enough time to allow investments to recover and eventually pay for dismantling the plants and removing radioactive material.
But mothballing nuclear reactors or shutting them down inadequately presents the most severe of risks. Radioactive waste could leak from abandoned plants into ground water or released into the air, and spent nuclear fuel rods could be stolen by terrorists.
During the past two years, estimates of dismantling costs have soared by more than $4.6 billion because rising energy and labor costs, while the investment funds that are supposed to pay for shutting plants down have lost $4.4 billion in the battered stock market.
The power companies have been hammered by the same declining market returns as colleges, companies and private investors. Industry critics say reactor owners weren’t saving enough even before the financial collapse, and that federal regulators have not held the industry to a high enough standard.
Federal regulators are expected to release a report later this week that will describe shortfalls at 30 of the nation’s 104 nuclear plants and ask operators for details about how they plan to resolve the problem.
The amount of money set aside for dismantling the plants has decreased at almost four of every five reactors, according to an AP analysis of financial records provided every other year to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. The government could force plant operators to set aside more money.
All this to say: Wish in one hand....... "
duhast wrote on Jul 7, 2009 4:34 PM:
" EddieOs,
I liked Ron Paul. I thought he was great in the debates. Really through those other guys for a loop. Unfortunately, he was drummed out by FOX news and whomever else did the Republican debates. However, I don’t think he would have been the most diplomatic head of state. Maybe next time… "
I liked Ron Paul. I thought he was great in the debates. Really through those other guys for a loop. Unfortunately, he was drummed out by FOX news and whomever else did the Republican debates. However, I don’t think he would have been the most diplomatic head of state. Maybe next time… "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 7, 2009 4:33 PM:
" i have listed several facts in these posts directly from news sources. i would challange duhast to disprove any of them but it would require quite a bit of reading. are you familiar with the cap and trade bill or the proposed healthcare legislation? the CBO has presented dollar amounts that some of these schemes will cost but are they suspect as well? "
duhast wrote on Jul 7, 2009 4:27 PM:
" How can you argue with someone who presents their own opinions as fact? Your statements are filled with conjecture and future telling. Most of your posts are in the form of “Barry wants to…”, “Obama is going to…” “He’s leading us down the path of…”. When you decide to present viable on-topic arguments, people will respond in kind. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 7, 2009 4:22 PM:
" duhast, these facts are not coming from rush although RUSH ROCKS! actually, i'm more busy reading major news sources, liberal and conservative to stay informed. i'm also spending a lot of time contacting our reps in congress as i usually do. if you read anything other than the SR, you might be more informed but perhaps you prefer to be an ostrich. so sorry that the libs are confused by the facts. "
EddieOs wrote on Jul 7, 2009 4:20 PM:
" Impeach Obama? Who in Congress will vote for it? What a waste of life pretending it's Obama or Bush stealing our country and our and our children's birthright.
Fire every one (except Ron Paul) of the slimy corrupt Congress and prosecute them to the fullest. "
Fire every one (except Ron Paul) of the slimy corrupt Congress and prosecute them to the fullest. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 7, 2009 4:17 PM:
" Chung Lee make suggestion.......if you will have picture taken for newspaper maybe time to put on clean shirt! Chung Lee think it slobber when guy get all excited when he hear his superhero Oxycontinman. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 7, 2009 4:16 PM:
" the dialogue is to discuss whether barry should be impeached or not and his ability to be president. only the facts are being presented. care to dispute any of them, EddieOs? i won't apologize for disrupting your threads with the facts but one thing we agree on is that congress is corrupt for the most part. don't forget that the democrats have been in power since 2006 and that obama was a senator for a whole 147 days before beginning his campaign. real experience? his idealogy that he trumpets in order to turn the economy around was his 20 years ago as a college student whether it's remaking education, healthcare, welfare or his pacifism. if you doubt what his real agenda is, you have only to read his hero, sal alinsky. it's almost impossible to discuss his policies with liberals because most don't really want to come out in agreement with his anti-america rantings so it's easier to complain about the "shills" presenting facts. LOL "
duhast wrote on Jul 7, 2009 4:09 PM:
" You’re absolutely right lilmurm. After reading your completely off topic post, I’ve decided to change my way of thinking. Now what channel was rush on again…. "
EddieOs wrote on Jul 7, 2009 4:03 PM:
" """...there are also the shills who disrupt the dialogue here...like lilmurm and others who post paragraph after nonsensical ranting paragraph pretending there's a difference between the parties. Congress is totally corrupt...and their vote goes to the highest bidder or extortionist or Israel.""" "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 7, 2009 3:35 PM:
" barry needs to be monitored very closely in russia as to how he's willing to gut our military. he gave a very anti-military speech to some students over there and has agreed to reduce the number of our nuclear launchers as did russia. an article in the wall street journal today pointed out a troubling detail however. russia's arsenal would have been reduced anyway due to the aging of their equipment, treaty or no treaty. basically, we're reducing our capability for defense and russia is giving up nothing that would not have been lost anyway. typical obama. his administration is supposedly conducting a study with the pentagon as to the necessary strategic weapons needed by the US but of course, barry cannot wait so he's willing to sign a treaty before it's determined what will keep america safe. and don't forget, he's willing to temporarily "bypass" senate ratification to sell us out. traitor. "
hancrack me up wrote on Jul 7, 2009 3:32 PM:
" Even if he weren't trying to impeach the President, if I walked in his shop & heard the annoying sounds of the "OxyContin King"(Limbaugh) foghorning his twisted right wing yap coming out of the radio I'd turn around & walk out. I wonder if Mr. Hills pays his monthly dues to the NAB(National Association of Broadcasters) like other businesses who play the radio in their shops are required to do. If not he should be fined & shut down for his illegal activity.
I'm sure neighboring businesses just love this guy & every other "55 & up pickup truck drivin' Lynyrd Skynyrd lovin' shotgun wielding farm boy" that comes into town to visit him & read the Limbaugh Letter I'm SURE he subscribes to. "
I'm sure neighboring businesses just love this guy & every other "55 & up pickup truck drivin' Lynyrd Skynyrd lovin' shotgun wielding farm boy" that comes into town to visit him & read the Limbaugh Letter I'm SURE he subscribes to. "
Julie R. wrote on Jul 7, 2009 3:26 PM:
" Stop trying to take away from the story, Kelly. And people in the advanced stages of Alzheimers don't disinherit anybody named in an irrevocable trust. Attorneys that make money by engaging in fraud, dishonesty and deceit do. "
Kelly wrote on Jul 7, 2009 3:15 PM:
" "nothing more than being the scapegoat. "
Kind of like anyone involved in Probate when your mother disinherits you "
Kind of like anyone involved in Probate when your mother disinherits you "
Julie R. wrote on Jul 7, 2009 2:14 PM:
" FST is correct. Even the better stores like Macy's and Elder-Beerman sell everything from China and overseas. Look at the better named brand clothes like Liz Claiborne and Tommy Hilfiger. Where do you think they are made? Columbia coats that go for $200.00 are made in Vietnam. It's impossible to find ANYTHING that's made in this country anymore.
He is also correct that it does not matter who gets into office---Congress runs the show and does anything they want. So why blame Obama? In this country being PRESIDENT is nothing more than being the scapegoat. "
He is also correct that it does not matter who gets into office---Congress runs the show and does anything they want. So why blame Obama? In this country being PRESIDENT is nothing more than being the scapegoat. "
duhast wrote on Jul 7, 2009 2:12 PM:
" FST,
Thank you for doing your part and contacting your congresspersons. That is the correct way to do it. As for the China problem, we have created this. Unfortunately, this is one of the pitfalls of capitalism. Supply and demand create demand for lesser and lesser priced products. Wal-Mart (for example) demands a certain priced product from their vendors or they refuse to buy from them. So, ACME company either they buys their products and raw goods from China or face going out of business. In theory, exclusively buying American would cause either a spike in costs or drop in wages. This theory will never be tested because consumers are used to the low prices and refuse to pay more. I myself am guilty. I know it’s wrong to buy a Chinese product, but the deal is too hard to pass up in this economy. Curses! Chung Lee has won again!! "
Thank you for doing your part and contacting your congresspersons. That is the correct way to do it. As for the China problem, we have created this. Unfortunately, this is one of the pitfalls of capitalism. Supply and demand create demand for lesser and lesser priced products. Wal-Mart (for example) demands a certain priced product from their vendors or they refuse to buy from them. So, ACME company either they buys their products and raw goods from China or face going out of business. In theory, exclusively buying American would cause either a spike in costs or drop in wages. This theory will never be tested because consumers are used to the low prices and refuse to pay more. I myself am guilty. I know it’s wrong to buy a Chinese product, but the deal is too hard to pass up in this economy. Curses! Chung Lee has won again!! "
gkbucks wrote on Jul 7, 2009 2:01 PM:
" I would rather be a "racist" than an "eracist"! I bet 99.9% of you do not understand my quote! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 7, 2009 1:39 PM:
" according to a politico story today, barry's approval rating in ohio fell 13 points in the past two months. hello 2010. he will be a lame duck for the last 2 years of his reign. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 7, 2009 1:30 PM:
" Chung Lee laugh pretty hard reading about the Constitutional Party Platform. Chung Lee sees it is pretty clear that they want a theocracy. Chung Lee wonder why theocracy so bad when muslim countries do it but okay if done here.
Chung Lee sees they want to get back to the America of the founders....... does that mean black guy count as 3/5 and no lady can vote? "
Chung Lee sees they want to get back to the America of the founders....... does that mean black guy count as 3/5 and no lady can vote? "
FST wrote on Jul 7, 2009 1:23 PM:
" There are a lot of different views about how our country got broken and how to fix it. I don`t understand why so many people blame only Obama when Congress and the House have more to do with what has happened than Obama. I believe is doesn`t matter who got into office,they would have to fight Congress and Congress does what ever they want. As far as only buying American goods,It can`t be done. I have often wondered how the American people survive and what kind of work they do because it is as if everything is made in China or somewhere else overseas. It`s almost like we are becoming the United States of China. What is even worse is that MOST of the goods that come from China are junk and unsafe,but our government keeps letting them ship it in and sell it to the American people. You can blame Obama for what is happening to this country,but everybody needs to remember that for one thing,he is only one person ,of many, who run this country and this country was going down hill long before Obama even thought about running for President.If you really want to make a change in our government,then Congress needs to clean house and get rid of the corrupt ones.Everything Obama promised us has been shot down by Congress or the House. We the people are as much to blame because in the time it just took you to read this post,you could have sent an email to your Congressman or State Rep. telling THEM how you feel about thing instead of telling a bunch of people who feel the same way. Every email or letter recieve by you counts as 1,000. I email my Congressman EVERY week. I even get replies. So if you don`t like the way things are being done,do something about it or else thay think you approve of what they are doing. GET INVOLVED AND QUIT BEING AN ARMCHAIR COMPLAINER. "
duhast wrote on Jul 7, 2009 1:16 PM:
" The Constitution party is, um... interesting.
http://constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php "
http://constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php "
MrFlawless wrote on Jul 7, 2009 1:15 PM:
" The man has every right to voice his opinion, but it's a terrible business decision. This man could likely end up closing up shop (just like the Invention in Milan), and then he'll blame the President. In reality, it will be his fault for bringing politics into the cabinetry business. Bad move. "
ritt wrote on Jul 7, 2009 12:51 PM:
" Yes......the sooner he is out, the better. If not people like Mr. Hils will no longer have the right to voice his opinion nor run his own store in the manner which he chooses!! Not to mention affording to run his own store....the cost of simple things like heat and health care will go through the roof soon thanks to Mr Obama not to mention back door taxes that Obama will quietly get through. "
SC Girl wrote on Jul 7, 2009 12:39 PM:
" Please America before it is too late..IMPEACH THE IDIOT !!! "
duhast wrote on Jul 7, 2009 11:39 AM:
" Most reps do not read most bills. There would not be enough time in the world. Sad but true. It's not the first time a bill went through in the middle of the night and won't be the last. Don’t sound so surprised. It's been happening since the beginning of congress and is nothing new. I've always wondered who the guy is that actually sits down and writes 300 pages in a few days.
Can you think of any presidents that made political appointments during congressional recesses?? "
Can you think of any presidents that made political appointments during congressional recesses?? "
duhast wrote on Jul 7, 2009 11:28 AM:
" No, I wouldn't say that's capitalism. More like the 1st amendment. He is however, showing an example of a poor business decision. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 7, 2009 11:28 AM:
" i now truly believe that barry hussein is insane. although tarp I, tarp II, the omnibus bill, and the first stimulous bill have been failures, he is not ruling out a second stimulous. where are all the shovel ready jobs from the first one? the only jobs being created are with the federal government and he now has more czars than russia. trillions in debt and that's without his socialized healthcare and cap and trade. did anyone here read/hear what was in the cap and trade 300 page ammendment presented at 3:00AM the day of the vote? john boehner read it line by line on the floor so americans would know what was in it. most reps did not read the 1400 page bill and neither did barry nor his energy czar. i find it strange that barry wants the US to be dependent upon windmills and solar panels for our energy needs while stating that islamic countries have a right to nuclear power. why aren't we producing more power plants? nuclear power is safe-fewer americans have died from nuclear accidents than in ted kennedy's car. barry is also being such a hypocrite stating to iran that we won't meddle in their internal affairs while dictating to israel not to defend herself against iran. you know, the maniac that has sworn to wipe israel off the face of the earth and denied the holocaust. israel is a sovereign nation and has the right to her own defense. now barry is interfering in latin america as well. seems as if the only countries he does not want to meddle with/offend are those of radical islam. of course, no liberals will address any of these issues with an intelligent comment but i'd be interested to see their take on the freedoms that will be lost through the healthcare bill and cap and trade. that is if they are familiar with what's in either of the bills. "
santownresident wrote on Jul 7, 2009 11:08 AM:
" He's getting everything he wanted- media attention. He might even draw business. "
iluvkauai wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:57 AM:
" Well sure, it's his right. Hope he doesn't end up shooting himself in the foot! "
samiam wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:36 AM:
" It is still this man's right (so far at least) to run his business the way he wants within the law. If he choses to post political signs or have talk radio on in his store, that's his choice. No different than having gansta rap music, heavy metal music, or elevator music playing. If it costs him customers, he made the choice. It's your choice whether you patronize his business or not. That's called capitalism. "
iluvkauai wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:07 AM:
" Gang, just look at that photo of good ol'Ric. A hard working cabinet maker with just a little varnish dripped down the front of his shirt. There's probably a Confederate flag hanging somewhere in his workshop while his customers are treated to the dulcet tones of Rush Limbaugh on the radio. There's just something so "American Gothic" about this photo, ain't there? And soon there will be a "Going Out of Business" sign next to the other one. "
EddieOs wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:06 AM:
" Sovereign American:
There are some of us around. And there are also the shills who disrupt the dialogue here...like lilmurm and others who post paragraph after nonsensical ranting paragraph pretending there's a difference between the parties. Congress is totally corrupt (except for Ron Paul) and their vote goes to the highest bidder or extortionist or Israel. (Redundant, I know.) "
There are some of us around. And there are also the shills who disrupt the dialogue here...like lilmurm and others who post paragraph after nonsensical ranting paragraph pretending there's a difference between the parties. Congress is totally corrupt (except for Ron Paul) and their vote goes to the highest bidder or extortionist or Israel. (Redundant, I know.) "
EddieOs wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:01 AM:
" It's not OBAMA, it's the people who run and own him. The same people who ran and owned Bush and Clinton. "
EddieOs wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:00 AM:
" To Sovereign American:
Allow me to repost your most excellent quote:
"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning"- Henry Ford "
The way they're running the money is akin to counterfeiting. They're stealing it ALL from US and most people don't know a da*m thing about it.
Start to get informed people. "
Allow me to repost your most excellent quote:
"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning"- Henry Ford "
The way they're running the money is akin to counterfeiting. They're stealing it ALL from US and most people don't know a da*m thing about it.
Start to get informed people. "
A Sovereign American wrote on Jul 7, 2009 9:25 AM:
" grape vine... yes, both parties are working together toward the same goals while making it appear that they are separate to make us believe we have a choice. "It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning"- Henry Ford "
grape vine wrote on Jul 7, 2009 9:15 AM:
" The Government sends TEN BILLION Dollars a YEAR to ISRAEL, when this money could have been Spent on Medical right here in the United States, Hundreds of Thousands of peoples lives could have been saved Right Here.
Why are we paying for Israels medical for there people and leave ours to die?
Makes no sence. "
Why are we paying for Israels medical for there people and leave ours to die?
Makes no sence. "
Huckleberry wrote on Jul 7, 2009 9:11 AM:
" If I get 25 people to sign a petition can I have this chucklehead's business license revoked? "
A Sovereign American wrote on Jul 7, 2009 9:06 AM:
" Eddios: that's what I'm talking about! A year ago it seemed like everyone on here was brain dead and clueless. There may be hope and change for our country yet. "
grape vine wrote on Jul 7, 2009 9:01 AM:
" YEAH
It was President Nixon that started trade with the Chinese, it was Pres. Reagan that turned the crazys loose from homes for the money, it was Pres. Clinton to open new lines of credit and sell homes to people that could not afford to make payment, It was Pres Bush to have the First TRILLON dollar buy out. my guess is governemnt stock. President DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER made trade with Japan, after the war not Germany, nor Italy?
Simple math: to save America, you need to buy Everything made in America, not just Autos.
If it is NOT made in America, PUT it BACK on the SHELF. Weather you need it or not. "
It was President Nixon that started trade with the Chinese, it was Pres. Reagan that turned the crazys loose from homes for the money, it was Pres. Clinton to open new lines of credit and sell homes to people that could not afford to make payment, It was Pres Bush to have the First TRILLON dollar buy out. my guess is governemnt stock. President DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER made trade with Japan, after the war not Germany, nor Italy?
Simple math: to save America, you need to buy Everything made in America, not just Autos.
If it is NOT made in America, PUT it BACK on the SHELF. Weather you need it or not. "
EddieOs wrote on Jul 7, 2009 8:53 AM:
" """"""" Right now the combination of presidents Bush and Obama have just created a trillion new paper dollars, a 70% increase over the money supply of last May ($1.3 trillion). Trillion dollar deficits are planned as far as the eye can see... The monetary base is up by over 100% from a year ago, and I estimate the money supply proper as up 70%. This will result in a massive rise in prices – far, far beyond what this country has ever seen.""""""" - By Howard S. Katz 7-06-09
The bankers are stealing our country and our birthright. Obama and Bush and Congress (except Ron Paul) work for the bankers. "
The bankers are stealing our country and our birthright. Obama and Bush and Congress (except Ron Paul) work for the bankers. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 7, 2009 8:44 AM:
" Chung Lee wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:28 PM:Chung Lee no need to move because eventually China will own USA.
Yup!
The Chinese sell us shoes, everyone wears shoes.
The Japanese sell us cars, not everyone buys cars.
Shoes don't last as long as a Japanese car.
Run the numbers, more money in the long run, in shoes.
Throw in a few million cell phones made in
China, planned life expectancy of about a year, two at the most.
Add that to all the other Chinese products we buy, and the fact that a lot of the Japanese labels are
made in China. My guess is more US dollars end up
in China than Japan.
The sad part for me, (I was born in 1940), is that I
saw the standard of living in this country go up,
and have lived long enough to see us run it in the
ground.
The government played a part in the decline, but
the American people are the biggest players in
this poker game, and they/we lost the farm. "
Yup!
The Chinese sell us shoes, everyone wears shoes.
The Japanese sell us cars, not everyone buys cars.
Shoes don't last as long as a Japanese car.
Run the numbers, more money in the long run, in shoes.
Throw in a few million cell phones made in
China, planned life expectancy of about a year, two at the most.
Add that to all the other Chinese products we buy, and the fact that a lot of the Japanese labels are
made in China. My guess is more US dollars end up
in China than Japan.
The sad part for me, (I was born in 1940), is that I
saw the standard of living in this country go up,
and have lived long enough to see us run it in the
ground.
The government played a part in the decline, but
the American people are the biggest players in
this poker game, and they/we lost the farm. "
A Sovereign American wrote on Jul 7, 2009 8:36 AM:
" Digger, great quotes, my bumper stickers say: Why should government honor your rights when you always settle for privileges? and.... "None are more helplessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe "
A Sovereign American wrote on Jul 7, 2009 8:26 AM:
" Richard Cranium .....The Obama Deception, on Youtube......please, credit is surely, NOT due. "
digger nick wrote on Jul 7, 2009 8:22 AM:
" The people of America were sold a dream. The dream never worked anywhere else in the world but we Americans have a long history of repeating our mistakes and buying what we want to hear. Here are just a few quotes from our forfathers that adress what Obozo is trying to do with America today.
Will we EVER LEARN?
After many years, I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, and three or more are a legislature. (John Adams)
I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. (Winston Churchill)
A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. (George Bernard Shaw)
A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay with your money. (anonymous)
Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. (James Bovard, Civil Libertarian)
Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries. (Douglas Casey, Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University)
Giving money and power to politicians is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. (P. J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian)
Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases. If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. (Ronald Reagan, in 1986)
I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. (Will Rogers)
No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while Congress is in
session. (Mark Twain, in 1866)
If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! (P. J. O'Rourke)
There is no distinctly native criminal group in America other than our politicians. (Mark Twain)
The inherent vice of capitalism is an unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is an equal sharing of the misery. (Winston Churchill)
The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin. (Mark Twain)
What this country needs is more unemployed politicians. (Edward Langley, Artist, 1928-1995)
A government big enough to give you everything you want ... is strong enough to take everything you have. (Thomas Jefferson) "
Will we EVER LEARN?
After many years, I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, and three or more are a legislature. (John Adams)
I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. (Winston Churchill)
A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. (George Bernard Shaw)
A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay with your money. (anonymous)
Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. (James Bovard, Civil Libertarian)
Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries. (Douglas Casey, Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University)
Giving money and power to politicians is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. (P. J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian)
Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases. If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. (Ronald Reagan, in 1986)
I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. (Will Rogers)
No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while Congress is in
session. (Mark Twain, in 1866)
If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! (P. J. O'Rourke)
There is no distinctly native criminal group in America other than our politicians. (Mark Twain)
The inherent vice of capitalism is an unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is an equal sharing of the misery. (Winston Churchill)
The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin. (Mark Twain)
What this country needs is more unemployed politicians. (Edward Langley, Artist, 1928-1995)
A government big enough to give you everything you want ... is strong enough to take everything you have. (Thomas Jefferson) "
Richard Cranium wrote on Jul 7, 2009 8:21 AM:
" First off, I am not an Obama Fan. I voted for McCain. But you have to give credit where it is due....Obama stepped into a presidency mired in enconomic strife. He did not create it. He's at least trying to do something to fix it and has taken a pro-active stance instead of sitting on his duff deciding what tyrants in the world need to be removed from power. Beliee me, all these liberals that he has surrounded himself makes me sick. So I am not a fan, but give the guy some credit. "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 7, 2009 8:03 AM:
" VP Joe Biden on the economy:
‘The truth is, there was a misreading of just how bad an economy we inherited,’ ‘Now that doesn’t — I’m not — it’s now our responsibility.’
‘…we inherited…it’s now our responsibility.’
Good to know that ol’ Joe is saying that the statute of limitations on blaming POTUS Bush has expired.
It’s the Obama economy now. How we doin'?
See: http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/07/biden-we-misread-the-economy-.html "
‘The truth is, there was a misreading of just how bad an economy we inherited,’ ‘Now that doesn’t — I’m not — it’s now our responsibility.’
‘…we inherited…it’s now our responsibility.’
Good to know that ol’ Joe is saying that the statute of limitations on blaming POTUS Bush has expired.
It’s the Obama economy now. How we doin'?
See: http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/07/biden-we-misread-the-economy-.html "
Winston Smith wrote on Jul 7, 2009 7:39 AM:
" Together, the Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid schemes are estimated to have in excess of $70 trillion in unfunded liabilities and so we should have a universal govt. funded health care 'insurance' system on top of it all?
Trillions? Get to know the word quadrillion.
Obama is busy writin' checks the U.S. won't ever be able to cash.
As a community organizer, about all Obama knew how to do was to ask the govt. for grant money.
All the U.S. has done is taken a community organizer out of Chicago and set him in Washington.
--------------
Best wishes to Mr. Hills, but with the Dems currently in control of Congress, the likelihood of achieving executive impeachment will be next-to-impossible. "
Trillions? Get to know the word quadrillion.
Obama is busy writin' checks the U.S. won't ever be able to cash.
As a community organizer, about all Obama knew how to do was to ask the govt. for grant money.
All the U.S. has done is taken a community organizer out of Chicago and set him in Washington.
--------------
Best wishes to Mr. Hills, but with the Dems currently in control of Congress, the likelihood of achieving executive impeachment will be next-to-impossible. "
A Sovereign American wrote on Jul 7, 2009 7:13 AM:
" I meant TOO much information.....before I get called ignorant or something for one misspelled word. "
A Sovereign American wrote on Jul 7, 2009 7:09 AM:
" Government health care is a scary thought by itself, but I just watched a youtube clip: internet police, about how Obama is going to assign a czar to oversee the internet, all in the name of "our safety". That's what they say on the news anyway, but some of us know that eventually this will be used to attack free speech. This guy has the right idea, but he voted for Mcain because he doesn't understand that both parties are working towards the same long term goals. It's a left/right paradigm that's not real. It sure does keep us busy fighting though. Ric Hills you should turn off Rush Limbough and everyone else on government controlled TV and see: The Obama Deception, the whole documentary is on youtube in one part. Julie R you desperately need to watch it as well. This documentary and others like it, are the actual reason why Obama wants to regulate the internet, people are obtaining to much information on the internet. Information we have the right to know. The government does not have the right to privacy and secrecy, we the people do. I started coming to this website a year or so ago and I can say that there are more people on here now that seem to be "awake", so I guess that's a good sign. "
bettyplease wrote on Jul 7, 2009 6:47 AM:
" I'm sure this guy will still have some business in his store but it'll only be from his fellow "good ole boys" coming in for their, how should I put this, "caucasian pride" meetings & to take home a kitchen cabinet to their old ladies they keep barefoot & pregnant while the men are out coon huntin & rebel rousin'. Maybe when his store goes bankrupt he can go model XXXXL shirts for Hammer Hubers & get a couple new cheap shirts instead of slothing it up for all to see. "
Bail Me Out wrote on Jul 7, 2009 5:12 AM:
" Um, dude you got a little something on your shirt. Did the triple cheeseburger spray out the side while you inhaled it? "
I wrote on Jul 7, 2009 3:07 AM:
" And what makes you so sure? By your reasoning, since I don't like Obama, I must be a redneck and a racist. hancrack, you follow the liberal playbook perfectly. You can't argue intelligently, so, you try to demean and insult...your typical nonsense. "
Richard Bebb wrote on Jul 7, 2009 2:56 AM:
" Great logic "Kath" - lets allow Barry to pile on more debt to the deficit because he should be allowed to "f" things up because we allowed Bush to enact his policies. If I read your comment correctly you want Bush prosecuted before we worry about the economy, the unemployment rate, and the hyper inflation that is soon to follow. Great strategy, I believe that you are one of the many with Bush derangement syndrome.
At what point does the current state of this country become Barry's responsibility?? I say it was the day he signed into law almost 1 trillion dollars of "stimulus" on top of a struggling economy. The economy that was in shambles due to the housing bubble and subsequent burst, due to policies enacted by democrats.
Remember when congress had to rush through the stimulus bill or the unemployment numbers would close in on 9 percent. You know the same unemployment numbers that are now closing in on 10 percent with the near trillion dollars of new spending.
And now this clown is demanding government run health care that will bankrupt this country. There is not one country on this planet that has successfully enacted socialized medicine. Look at the failings of medicare and medicade as examples. These programs, run by the government, are apparently not sufficient enough according to Barry, yet both are running tremendous debt.
I know this pettition will not cause any change but we must all remember this when the 2010 election roll around. "
At what point does the current state of this country become Barry's responsibility?? I say it was the day he signed into law almost 1 trillion dollars of "stimulus" on top of a struggling economy. The economy that was in shambles due to the housing bubble and subsequent burst, due to policies enacted by democrats.
Remember when congress had to rush through the stimulus bill or the unemployment numbers would close in on 9 percent. You know the same unemployment numbers that are now closing in on 10 percent with the near trillion dollars of new spending.
And now this clown is demanding government run health care that will bankrupt this country. There is not one country on this planet that has successfully enacted socialized medicine. Look at the failings of medicare and medicade as examples. These programs, run by the government, are apparently not sufficient enough according to Barry, yet both are running tremendous debt.
I know this pettition will not cause any change but we must all remember this when the 2010 election roll around. "
hancrack me up wrote on Jul 7, 2009 1:42 AM:
" I'm sure this redneck would prefer David Duke as president. "
I wrote on Jul 7, 2009 1:17 AM:
" kath, since you and Rush are in agreement, does that make you a Rushbot? The minute Obama took office and did not pull the troops out, he owned both wars. In fact, he's escalating the war in Afghanistan where more soldiers and civilians will die...war crimes? Is this considered taking care of the last mess or dealing with the current one? I don't believe we should give Obama as much opportunity as Bush to f things up. What Bush messed up could have been corrected by a good president in his first term. What Obama is doing will take generations to correct, if then. "
kath2860 wrote on Jul 7, 2009 12:56 AM:
" Sure, Rush would agree. He's a moron. Iraq was/is a war based on lies; it is Bush's war; he is to blame. I don't care what you or any right-wing nutcase has to say. You are all wrong. And it is by YOUR "reasoning" (if you can call what happens in a Rushbot's mind "reasoning"), not mine, that Obama is also to blame. Our current President will make his own mistakes while trying to correct the unforgivable mistakes of the past administration, and I simply stated that we need take care of the LAST mess before we deal with the current one. Justice for ALL, isn't that right? I believe Obama should be allowed to have just as much of an opportunity to f things up as did Bushyboy. What's good for one should also be good for the other. "
I wrote on Jul 7, 2009 12:28 AM:
" So, kath, by your reasoning, Obama should also be prosecuted for murder, war crimes, and crimes against humanity because of the civilians and soldiers who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan since he's been president? Rush would probably agree with you that he should. "
I wrote on Jul 7, 2009 12:15 AM:
" JulieR, a thousand miles journey start with a single step(Lao Tseu). "
kath2860 wrote on Jul 7, 2009 12:11 AM:
" I see the Rushbots are out in full force! OF COURSE Rush was playing on his radio! He is a windbag just like all the rest of the parrots who spout the same right-wing crap, OVER AND OVER AND OVER!! People like him are not a threat because they don't have an original thought in their heads. Rush says so, therefore it must be GOSPEL! Saw it on Fox News so it must be right! Well, right is WRONG; you had your chance and you blew it. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that this man and the few wingnuts who support his views and signed his little petition ALSO think Sarah Palin would make a great President, and that she stepped down (sorry --- left to pursue "a higher calling") because the "liberal media" is so MEAN to her! BAD liberals! EVIL Democrats! Barrack Obama is our President; he was ELECTED. He did not STEAL the election, unlike his predecessor who made a mockery of the entire voting process. First things first. Let's see to it that George W. Bush is prosecuted for murder, war crimes and crimes against humanity. THEN we can address the current "mess." "
santownresident wrote on Jul 7, 2009 12:04 AM:
" Ok lilmurm we're waiting for ur 500 word essay........ "
countrycowboy wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:41 PM:
" This country is all about freedom. Maybe some other countries have lower taxes or more money but where else can someone live so well as a member of the modern gender? "
Jimmy Ego wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:40 PM:
" Socialism doesn't turn people into morons-TV does. Everyone has a TV. Hmmm... "
Julie R. wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:39 PM:
" To "I": Once again, I just bet some guy from a little piddly as* town in Ohio is going to get the President of the United States impeached.......what a joke. That guy should be ashamed of himself. Obama has inherited one horrendous gigantic MESS and it's going to take years to straighten it out....if ever.
And NO I have not seen anything yet that would make me believe that Obama is corrupt.....but I KNOW Erie County is! Now stick with the story. "
And NO I have not seen anything yet that would make me believe that Obama is corrupt.....but I KNOW Erie County is! Now stick with the story. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:28 PM:
" Chung Lee no need to move because eventually China will own USA. "
The New World Czar wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:20 PM:
" I have dealt with him not at his place of business, but on the athletic fields where he also officiates. He is about the most straight-forward and fair individual you will come across there, and no, he does not bring politics on to the field.
Sure, it might cost him business, but if the quality is good and the price is right, he'll get and keep his share of customers.
Say what you want about his views posted on the storefront, but he is a small businessman in the community trying to make a living...and exercise his legal rights. "
Sure, it might cost him business, but if the quality is good and the price is right, he'll get and keep his share of customers.
Say what you want about his views posted on the storefront, but he is a small businessman in the community trying to make a living...and exercise his legal rights. "
John Galt wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:10 PM:
" Chung Lee, most people move to the United States for the freedoms it provides. If that is true of you, once Obama gets done with country, where will you then move? Back to China? By then, they'll have more freedoms and a better standard of living. "
I wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:02 PM:
" JulieR, with your belief system that Sandusky, Erie County, and the State of Ohio are all corrupt, how can you possibly believe that Obama is not corrupt, also. He came up through the most corrupt political environment in the nation. Yes, Chicago is really worse than Sandusky. You, and others, need to open your eyes! "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:00 PM:
" Communists and Republicans both red....... coincidence? Chung Lee no think so! "
Julie R. wrote on Jul 6, 2009 10:53 PM:
" And I just bet some guy in a little piddly as* town in Ohio is going to get the President of the United States impeached.........now THAT would make the history books for sure. "
Chung Lee wrote on Jul 6, 2009 10:34 PM:
" Chung Lee remember when Chung Lee cheered for the Russians during the 1984 Olympics. Neighbors in village in China no like Chung Lee after that. Chung Lee now root for team Chung Lee live in. "
MrFlawless wrote on Jul 6, 2009 10:08 PM:
" Oh, I wanted to mention that the caption for the picture says "congress and senate." The House of Rep. and Senate make up Congress. Just a note. "
I wrote on Jul 6, 2009 10:01 PM:
" ...and the people who are telling us how great Obama is are the same people who told us how bad Bush was. So, what's your point? The scary thing is: I think Obama is more than smart enough to screw things up this bad, and worse! "
MrFlawless wrote on Jul 6, 2009 9:54 PM:
" This is the worst move any business owner can make. This man won't accomplish anything except eliminating half his customers. If he had any brains in his head, he would understand that Democrats need cabinets, their money is green, and now he isn't getting any of their business.
It was a dumb business move when the Invention did it in Milan (put an Obama poster in the window), and so is this. "
It was a dumb business move when the Invention did it in Milan (put an Obama poster in the window), and so is this. "
Einstein's Tutor wrote on Jul 6, 2009 9:29 PM:
" The people who are telling us how bad obama is are the very same people who told us how good dubya was.
While dubya certainly lived up to my expectation, I didn't think he was smart enough to screw things up this bad.
rupina hit the nail on the head. "
While dubya certainly lived up to my expectation, I didn't think he was smart enough to screw things up this bad.
rupina hit the nail on the head. "
jimbo wrote on Jul 6, 2009 8:11 PM:
" RE:which he will send to members of Ohio congress and senate.
:) "
:) "
Duhast wrote on Jul 6, 2009 8:10 PM:
" Remember the restaurant in Milan that went out of business because they had an Obama sign in the window. Now Milan no longer has the restaurant AND McCain lost. I hope he makes good cabinets. "
SamIAm wrote on Jul 6, 2009 7:05 PM:
" It's a pity that folks can't make better posts on these articles than to make fun of someone because of their size, age, gender, color or whatever else. Guess it shows their limited intelligence. "
Captain Gutz wrote on Jul 6, 2009 6:47 PM:
" Babie is a village and municipality in the Vranov nad Topľou District in the Prešov Region of Slovakia. "
iluvkauai wrote on Jul 6, 2009 6:23 PM:
" This guy is entitled to his opinion, but this is as big of a waste of time and effort as trying to recall Craig Stahl in Sandusky. Seems like a risky business move, too. Ric may eventually need that universal health insurance if he keeps mixing business with politics! "
kURT wrote on Jul 6, 2009 5:34 PM:
" Hey Ric, what size T-shirt fits you? 2XXL or 3XXL? If you see one in your entrance way, you know I bought you a new one. "
Jimmy Ego wrote on Jul 6, 2009 4:23 PM:
" He should like give away free candy or something if you sign. "
mikel wrote on Jul 6, 2009 4:20 PM:
" doodah, i am not living in a fog and do realize what many of our problems are today. however, to blame bush for all of them is nuts. bush inherited as many problems from clinton as obamass did from bush. also, many of the problems of today came about after 2006 during which we had a congress consisting of a democratic majority. there was also a senator by the name of obamass from illinois that was totally useless. "
Norwalkian wrote on Jul 6, 2009 4:20 PM:
" LAST WEEK'S NEWS - TODAY in the Register
Once again, the Register is re-writing something that was already published in the Norwalk Reflector.
www.norwalkreflector.com/articles/2009/07/02/front/doc4a4a3e4ec116d680840698.txt "
Once again, the Register is re-writing something that was already published in the Norwalk Reflector.
www.norwalkreflector.com/articles/2009/07/02/front/doc4a4a3e4ec116d680840698.txt "
Norwalkian wrote on Jul 6, 2009 4:19 PM:
" LAST WEEK'S NEWS - TODAY in the Register
Once again, the Register is re-writing something that was already published in the Norwalk Reflector.
http://www.norwalkreflector.com/articles/2009/07/02/front/doc4a4a3e4ec116d680840698.txt "
Once again, the Register is re-writing something that was already published in the Norwalk Reflector.
http://www.norwalkreflector.com/articles/2009/07/02/front/doc4a4a3e4ec116d680840698.txt "
man4451 wrote on Jul 6, 2009 4:15 PM:
" re:SamIAm
Yes, you are a racist if you don't vote for a black man, you are a racist if you don't let them steel your car, you are a racist if you don't let you daughter marry a black man, you are a racist if you don't let them live free of rent, you are a racist if you you think minority hiring is wrong. You are a raicist if more blacks are in prison than other races. You are a raicist if you press charges if they rob you. We've heard them all. "
Yes, you are a racist if you don't vote for a black man, you are a racist if you don't let them steel your car, you are a racist if you don't let you daughter marry a black man, you are a racist if you don't let them live free of rent, you are a racist if you you think minority hiring is wrong. You are a raicist if more blacks are in prison than other races. You are a raicist if you press charges if they rob you. We've heard them all. "
SamIAm wrote on Jul 6, 2009 3:50 PM:
" According to some, you're a racist if you didn't vote for Obama or if you don't like his politics. That the only reason that you don't like him is because he's black. Conversely, if you did vote for him or agree with his politics, then you must also be a racist...for the only reason that many did vote for him or do like him is because he's black! "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 6, 2009 3:46 PM:
" i believe that president bush vetoed schips or the expansion of it. obama and his majority moved it through the congress soon after he was sworn in and not only that, it is to cover non americans. there was a law on the books that immigrants could not apply for government entitlement programs for 5 years after entering the country but the democrats feel they're entitled to freebies from day one. i say let the sponsors pay their way and as for the illegals, press one to deport. "
DooDah wrote on Jul 6, 2009 3:34 PM:
" to mikel
Honey if you don't KNOW what the mess in this country and world is, then you must be living in a fog. Probably you just don't care and are prejudiced. "
Honey if you don't KNOW what the mess in this country and world is, then you must be living in a fog. Probably you just don't care and are prejudiced. "
mikel wrote on Jul 6, 2009 3:28 PM:
" pigeon farmer: slow down there man. i was just asking a question. however, since you laid it out there is that all you got? if you are upset about schip and bush what do you think about the total dismantling of our state health system/funding by gov strickland (d). strickland is making cuts of epic proportions! "
ruipina wrote on Jul 6, 2009 3:21 PM:
" Last I checked it was the Bush administration that arrested hundreds of Americans without charging them just because of their religious/ethnic background post 9/11. It was the Bush administration that wire tapped Americans without a warrant when the law clearly required a warrant to do so. It was the Bush administration that ignored certain intelligence data and presented to Congress only data that supported its cause for a war in Iraq resulting in thousands of American deaths. Let me know when we find the Weapons of Mass Destruction. The Bush administration stretched the concept of Executive power to new limits, lets not forget Bush intervention in the Terry Schiavo case. It is absurd and hypocritical to accuse Obama of abuse of power and at the same time defend Bush. Korea and Iran have been able to develop their nuclear program because Bush was so obsessed with Iraq. At the same time he allowed things in Afghanistan to get out of control. If you do not like Obama because he is black or because of his policies, fine, this is America and you have the right to your opinion. But please do not insult one's intelligence with claims to power grab and threats to civil liberties. Furthermore, Half of the country endured 8 years of Republican control of the White House, but now after 8 months of Democratic control, there sure seems to be a lot of whining. If you are such a supporter of Democracy put up with the idea that Obama was elected by the majority of voters in this country and stop using patriotism as your excuse to impeach him. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 6, 2009 3:14 PM:
" perhaps mr. hills meant that the petition will go to state reps and senators from ohio who supposedly represent us in washington. to I, you are so correct in your statement comparing critism of president bush to ours of obama. hillary clinton said that it is patriotic to protest/question any administration but of course, that was when george w. was in office. i am so sick of the rantings of those who think it's racist to dare criticize obama. a socialist is a socialist is a socialist: bi-racial, white, yellow or brown. get over it. "
duhast wrote on Jul 6, 2009 3:05 PM:
" Caption says:
Hills has started his own petition in an effort to impeach the president which he will send to members of Ohio congress and senate.
Does he think the Ohio senate and HOUSE has that power? (BTW register, the house and senate make up the Ohio congress. That's a redundant statement.)
Good luck getting the US congress to go along with that. At least he’s gotten his 15 minutes of fame. This guy probably thinks the impeachment process involves fruit. "
Hills has started his own petition in an effort to impeach the president which he will send to members of Ohio congress and senate.
Does he think the Ohio senate and HOUSE has that power? (BTW register, the house and senate make up the Ohio congress. That's a redundant statement.)
Good luck getting the US congress to go along with that. At least he’s gotten his 15 minutes of fame. This guy probably thinks the impeachment process involves fruit. "
I wrote on Jul 6, 2009 2:56 PM:
" Beerman, when people screamed how much they hated Bush, they claimed it was because he was a horrible president. Now, when people claim to hate Obama, it's because they're racist, not because he's a horrible president. Better have another beer, or, is it koolaid you've been drinking? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 6, 2009 2:51 PM:
" obama is now in russia dissing the US as usual and making himself look like a fool. an article states that he may "bypass" senate ratification on a nuclear arms reduction bill with the russians if time runs short. this is clearly unconstitutional for him to act on an executive order. also, his college papers from the early 80's are now available to read where the pacifist saw america's defense as a march to militarism. he is either so naive or stupid to think that if we give up our nuclear capability as an example that iran, korea, china and russia will as well. he actually thinks we will become a nuclear free world with maniacal dictators running those 3rd world countries. he talks like an acid head idiot from the 60's. his college writings also elude to remaking the educational system, healthcare and welfare so it appears that his agenda does NOT have anything to do with the current recession. intelligent people have been stating this all along. it's only a backdrop for his power grab. let's hope congress can muster up some intestinal fortitude to rein in his reign of terror on americans' liberties and security. "
pigeon farmer wrote on Jul 6, 2009 2:41 PM:
" mekel:
Schip is Bush's mess. If you've dealt with a critically ill child you'd understand. You're repeating Limbaugh again. Remember he's a drug addict who abuses Viagra and Oxycotin. Limbaugh's jowels are getting huge. Is he storing his pills in his jowels? Remember Limbaugh's November 11, 2004 quote "Until you can win an election, shut up, shut up, shut up!" Pretend you could hear the paper shaking. "
Schip is Bush's mess. If you've dealt with a critically ill child you'd understand. You're repeating Limbaugh again. Remember he's a drug addict who abuses Viagra and Oxycotin. Limbaugh's jowels are getting huge. Is he storing his pills in his jowels? Remember Limbaugh's November 11, 2004 quote "Until you can win an election, shut up, shut up, shut up!" Pretend you could hear the paper shaking. "
beerman wrote on Jul 6, 2009 2:39 PM:
" Join him moving to Kentucky or maybe Texas when Gov. Perry takes Texas out of the United States Viking. Or take a big tissue and dab your hate tear filled little angry eyes. "
beerman wrote on Jul 6, 2009 2:27 PM:
" Guys like this is the reason I moved from Truckerwalk. But our famous paper decides to give this guy a forum for his rant. My advise is go away little angry man move back to Kentucky with the rest of your racist relatives. "
Viking wrote on Jul 6, 2009 2:20 PM:
" Angela,
Obama is making good on every promise he made? Really? You better check your facts out..........
Obama promised to get us out of Iraq: He has now decided to send more troops
Obama promised to cut taxes for middle and low class Americans: He has now decided to wait on making a decision on this.
Obama promised to increase the number of jobs in America: Now that is just funny.
The list goes on and on.
If you really follow politics, you will see that Obama is in way over his head at this point. Hopefully things will get better. "
Obama is making good on every promise he made? Really? You better check your facts out..........
Obama promised to get us out of Iraq: He has now decided to send more troops
Obama promised to cut taxes for middle and low class Americans: He has now decided to wait on making a decision on this.
Obama promised to increase the number of jobs in America: Now that is just funny.
The list goes on and on.
If you really follow politics, you will see that Obama is in way over his head at this point. Hopefully things will get better. "
Huckleberry wrote on Jul 6, 2009 1:50 PM:
" "We've come a long way babie"? Nice spelling. And this guy wants to impeach the American President. Only in Norwalk! "
jimbo wrote on Jul 6, 2009 1:47 PM:
" kURT wrote on Jul 6, 2009 12:23 PM:" Geez lilmurm - I've got a furlough day & here you are.......posting like mad. Do YOU work?
That is, he she it's job............. "
That is, he she it's job............. "
kURT wrote on Jul 6, 2009 12:23 PM:
" Geez lilmurm - I've got a furlough day & here you are.......posting like mad. Do YOU work? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 6, 2009 12:13 PM:
" president bush increased the national debt LESS in 8 years than obama did in 6 months and this while fighting 2 wars and the financial aftermath of 9/11. typical race baiting going on here now that you have a bi-racial president so anytime one disagrees with his agenda, you're a bigot. shades of jackson and sharpton. also, democrats were in control of congress since 2006 and they do control the purse strings of the national budget. it's now a consensus that the housing meltdown caused the financial collapse and you can squarely place that fiasco on the democrats' shoulders, like it or not. watch barney frank's video from early the early 2000s stating there's nothing wrong with fannie and freddie and they need no regulation or oversight even while republicans were calling for an investigation. president bush advised they were growing too large and a housing downturn would be catastrophic. of course, liberals don't want to hear that. right now, the government is attempting to force banks to do more risky lending to those who cannot afford to buy homes. "
reader wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:55 AM:
" This guy is a real shrewd businessman....just alienated half of his potential customers.
Stand by for the going out of business sale ! "
Stand by for the going out of business sale ! "
mikel wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:52 AM:
" trace37, doodah, julier: please enlighten me and tell me just what "mess" bush caused. do you have a clue or are you repeating what others have said? "
BLUESTREAK1 wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:49 AM:
" I agree with the business owner across the street Mr. Jarrett I would never bring politics into my store because of who it may offend. And most people in this country are smart enough to know with President Obama it is not so much how he is running the country but the fact that he has African American in him. This gentleman needs to check his real reasons and it probably is bigotry which makes him dislike the current president because if he did not try to impeach the last president he is missing a few scrubbles up stairs. I would have rather had Mickey Mouse running the country the last eight years than the last clown. This country is in a terrible state right now and it is because of the last Bush now President Obama has to try to clean up all his mess. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:42 AM:
" first of all, obama is not black but bi-racial: just as much white as black so let's get over the whole racial bit. what he's doing is destroying this country and the millions of americans who never voted before refuse to acknowledge this. as for high crimes, a president takes an oath to protect and defend the constitution and when he blantantly disregards doing so, there is grounds for impeachment. obama is stripping states of their rights at every turn if the issue does not suit his agenda. with his muslim background that he now so proudly touts, he is turning his back on our staunchest ally while pandering to the terrorist countries and they are laughing in his face. he is so naive that he thinks the world will embrace his radical ideas because of a pretty boy smile but apparently, the global community has more sense than millions of americans. "
angelaburge@sbcglobal.net wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:32 AM:
" You just mad cause Obama is black, get over it Obama is making good on everything he said he would do. Life is too short to go around hating people because of what they look like. Did you have a choice when you were born to be white, A no, so get over it a change has come and your too bull-headed to be happy about it but I bet you won't get too much business after this temper tantrum. "
lgood113 wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:25 AM:
" Cleveland's 19 Action News will be at the store today sometime between 1 and 3 "
pigeon farmer wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:19 AM:
" Reagan was a cocain and illegal firearms dealer. How many Iranian, and central American children died due to his crimes? "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:02 AM:
" also, let's not forget that obama is all for granting citizenship to 20 million illegal aliens and their relatives in mexico which is wrong anytime but even more ridiculous now with unemployment hovering around 10%. sure, lets put millions more on welfare, medicaid, free housing and food. addressing the addict remark: i recall patrick kennedy leaaving rehab to vote on the cap and trade bill - these people are running the country? and don't forget that obama admitted to illegal drug use and is still addicted to nicotine. an addiction is an addiction, no? "
ruipina wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:00 AM:
" Independently of where one stands in the political spectrum. I hope that this gentleman, being a member of the Constitution Party, realizes that, according to the US Constitution, a President can only be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors. Dislike for the President's policies does not constitute qualifying criteria for an impeachment. In other words this is basically an exercise in futility. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 6, 2009 10:58 AM:
" OBAMA IS FOR:
cap and trade = national energy tax, higher utility costs and jobs going to china and india where no such pollution contraints exist. control over americans' energy consumption.
socialized healthcare = government control of 1/6th of the economy.
redistribution of wealth = taking from those who earn and give to those who do not.
trillions of dollars in debt = china now owns our economy while geitner and clinton beg them to buy even more. imagine, america owned by communits.
government control of banks, wall street, auto industry, insurance and credit card companies
bail out irresponsible homeowners while most are honoring their obligations. force banks to give more credit to minorities and low income americans even if they have bad or no credit.this program began under carter and was expanded under clinton. obmam favors sub prime mortgages as well.
OBAMA IS AGAINST: america "
cap and trade = national energy tax, higher utility costs and jobs going to china and india where no such pollution contraints exist. control over americans' energy consumption.
socialized healthcare = government control of 1/6th of the economy.
redistribution of wealth = taking from those who earn and give to those who do not.
trillions of dollars in debt = china now owns our economy while geitner and clinton beg them to buy even more. imagine, america owned by communits.
government control of banks, wall street, auto industry, insurance and credit card companies
bail out irresponsible homeowners while most are honoring their obligations. force banks to give more credit to minorities and low income americans even if they have bad or no credit.this program began under carter and was expanded under clinton. obmam favors sub prime mortgages as well.
OBAMA IS AGAINST: america "
pigeon farmer wrote on Jul 6, 2009 10:56 AM:
" That's what happens when you worship a drug addict. I wonder if Hill uses Viagra and Oxycotin when he listens to the teachings of his leader and commander Rushie poo? Intelligence is NOT free. "
unassumer wrote on Jul 6, 2009 10:47 AM:
" Impeaching Obama will not accomplish a change in the way this country is run. The underlying old systems have to change in order for things to be fixed. He's going about it all wrong. Obama is not responsible for the failing of the government. It's been ongoing for years. I don't like what the governments (federal, state or local) are doing these days but we'd need to get rid of all politicians and the ridiculous laws that have been instituted before any improvements are seen. The idea behind this has merit, but not the method. It goes deeper and things need to change all over. Unfortunately, they probably won't. "
lilmurm wrote on Jul 6, 2009 10:41 AM:
" i'll be making a trip to norwalk to sign the petition but this man needs to set up a website in order to reach more citizens. perhaps contact some major newspapers as well with this story to get more people involved. obama is shredding our constitution daily while ignoring the 10th ammendment and some are not afraid to step up to the plate in opposition. no sitting president has ever trashed america in the global community as this joker has done. in his eyes, everything american is bad if it was before his reign and it's his desire to remake our country. even his wife said last year during the campaign that this is the first time she's proud of her country. really? think about america's history then decide if a remark such as that makes sense. obama is nothing more than an attorney, politician and community organizer and knows nothing about foreign policy or the financial market. it's our loss. "
I wrote on Jul 6, 2009 10:40 AM:
" DooDah, you think JulieR is a voice of reason? Don't encourage her! "
kURT wrote on Jul 6, 2009 10:37 AM:
" Good luck with your business bub. Oh - help yourself to a better life medically lose about 40lbs. "
EddieOs wrote on Jul 6, 2009 10:33 AM:
" The Bush family should be imprisoned as well.
Read on for what they have planned for us:
"The equivalent of one in six U.S. refineries probably would close by 2020 as the cost of carbon allowances erases profits, according to the American Petroleum Institute, a Washington trade group known as API. Carbon permits would add 77 cents a gallon to the price of gasoline, said Russell Jones, the API’s senior economic adviser."
House Passes Climate-Change Plan, an Obama Priority (Update2)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aPwZANlDq4R0 "
Read on for what they have planned for us:
"The equivalent of one in six U.S. refineries probably would close by 2020 as the cost of carbon allowances erases profits, according to the American Petroleum Institute, a Washington trade group known as API. Carbon permits would add 77 cents a gallon to the price of gasoline, said Russell Jones, the API’s senior economic adviser."
House Passes Climate-Change Plan, an Obama Priority (Update2)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aPwZANlDq4R0 "
pacevette78 wrote on Jul 6, 2009 10:33 AM:
" Obama is doing more harm then good for our country.We should not wait and see what he will do, that will damanage our country more..National health care is terrible. Canada has it and they have a 16% higher death rate in cancer patients due to them having to wait 8 weeks to get treatment..National health care helps no one.
If you think the rebal flag is offensive you don't know you history, go get a history refresher "
If you think the rebal flag is offensive you don't know you history, go get a history refresher "
insideout wrote on Jul 6, 2009 10:00 AM:
" The election is done and over. Obama IS our president. He is only half a year into his first term and people are already complaining. He hasn't even been given a proper chance.
There is a reason that the saying says "Rome wasn't built in a day". What did everyone expect? That Obama was going to come into office and suddenly our economy would flourish and there would be tons of jobs for everyone and life would be great? That's not how it works.
Honestly, I don't care if you voted for Obama or McCain, the fact is that Obama is now our president. Should McCain have been elected, he would have been walking into the same mess trying to figure out how to fix it.
Impeaching Obama isn't going to change anything. It might make some people happy but then Obama supporters will be spiteful. It's a never ending circle.
All I'm saying is give the man a decent chance. See what he can do. After his first term, if you still hate him and think he's doing a terrible job, then do what you have to do. But I don't think that 6 or 7 months is enough time to pass reasonable judgement on a President who is expected to change a country already in turmoil. "
There is a reason that the saying says "Rome wasn't built in a day". What did everyone expect? That Obama was going to come into office and suddenly our economy would flourish and there would be tons of jobs for everyone and life would be great? That's not how it works.
Honestly, I don't care if you voted for Obama or McCain, the fact is that Obama is now our president. Should McCain have been elected, he would have been walking into the same mess trying to figure out how to fix it.
Impeaching Obama isn't going to change anything. It might make some people happy but then Obama supporters will be spiteful. It's a never ending circle.
All I'm saying is give the man a decent chance. See what he can do. After his first term, if you still hate him and think he's doing a terrible job, then do what you have to do. But I don't think that 6 or 7 months is enough time to pass reasonable judgement on a President who is expected to change a country already in turmoil. "
DooDah wrote on Jul 6, 2009 9:57 AM:
" Thanks Julie...at last a voice of REASON in the wilderness.
But on the other hand, people were AFRAID when Bush was in office as you recall.
Remember Madonna on Lettermen(?). She withdrew from speaking up about the government after the Dixie Chicks debacle. Madonna stated on the show that people were afraid to speak up because if they did, "they are punished".
Very true and very, very bad times they were. Our President has inherited a worldwide MESS thanks to the previous eight years of inaction and poor (if any) decisions.
And don't get me started on the Bush speech-making ineptitude... gag... "
But on the other hand, people were AFRAID when Bush was in office as you recall.
Remember Madonna on Lettermen(?). She withdrew from speaking up about the government after the Dixie Chicks debacle. Madonna stated on the show that people were afraid to speak up because if they did, "they are punished".
Very true and very, very bad times they were. Our President has inherited a worldwide MESS thanks to the previous eight years of inaction and poor (if any) decisions.
And don't get me started on the Bush speech-making ineptitude... gag... "
Julie R. wrote on Jul 6, 2009 9:23 AM:
" If he wanted to impeach somebody it should have been Bush. Why pick on Obama when all he did was inherit one great big gigantic MESS? "
DooDah wrote on Jul 6, 2009 9:03 AM:
" to HD0255.
You are correct, I don't see "that".
This is nothing more than the typical whiner "BABIE" (sic) who didn't get their way.
And what are you "BABIES" complaining about? You had Bush for EIGHT YEARS and what did he do? HUH? He created this mess that you want to blame President Barack Obama, the person elected legitimately to office who didn't steal an election.
I am SURE that your lip-service will help this guy in his business success. See...you think because you did your "good deed" of helping delvier a cabinet (OOOOOO!!!) that his business will be successful based on your (non-financial) contribution. yeah...right...that'll help. NOT!
You need to grow up and have some respect for the President of our country. "
You are correct, I don't see "that".
This is nothing more than the typical whiner "BABIE" (sic) who didn't get their way.
And what are you "BABIES" complaining about? You had Bush for EIGHT YEARS and what did he do? HUH? He created this mess that you want to blame President Barack Obama, the person elected legitimately to office who didn't steal an election.
I am SURE that your lip-service will help this guy in his business success. See...you think because you did your "good deed" of helping delvier a cabinet (OOOOOO!!!) that his business will be successful based on your (non-financial) contribution. yeah...right...that'll help. NOT!
You need to grow up and have some respect for the President of our country. "
HD0255 wrote on Jul 6, 2009 8:43 AM:
" Attn: DooDah, this is a blue collar WORKING Man, in his own store where he WORKS with his hands to support himself, you know, kinda the way the founding father's did? I have been is his store, signed the petition, and helped deliver a cabinet that was sold solely due to this sign and petition, and I will work hard to find something he has I need to support him by buying it. In some countries girth is a sign of a Successful Businessman! He carried on a multisyllibic conversation and did not have drag marks on his knuckles.
Perhaps he Loves his Country and cares more about how it is being TRASHED than he cares about what YOU think, or about getting your types business!
Obama is digging a very large HOLE for your GREAT-GREAT-GREAT GRANDCHILDREN! And you are the one who has a bad business sense if you can't see that! "
Perhaps he Loves his Country and cares more about how it is being TRASHED than he cares about what YOU think, or about getting your types business!
Obama is digging a very large HOLE for your GREAT-GREAT-GREAT GRANDCHILDREN! And you are the one who has a bad business sense if you can't see that! "
Taxpayer wrote on Jul 6, 2009 8:32 AM:
" It appears most of you are "stereo typing" someone because they have different views. So ONE man is causing ALL of Norwalk to look bad? Now where does that authority come from? EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion. Who are YOU to decide who speaks up or who does not? You all sound like a bunch of crybaby liberals. I am totally against the policies Obama has initiated. You know the ones the almighty has started. He still BLAMES Bush for everything. Even his own VP is doing the same thing. You know, the liberal playbook. All of us are going PAY sooner or later. The tax code for this year changes every DAY. I can promise all you crybabies this, everyone, business or individual will be paying more. Hey how is all that HOPE and CHANGE working out for YOU? "
ottonut44 wrote on Jul 6, 2009 8:25 AM:
" The reason his polling is running 24 or 25 to one in favor of getting rid of Barry is the fact that most of the people that voted for Barry O cannot read. You see most of them on jay Leno's Jaywalking. There should be a test to see if people qualify to vote, nothing complex, just like hame the current president, vice president, speaker of the house and chief justice of the supreme court and perhaps, who your local senator and representatives are. "
DooDah wrote on Jul 6, 2009 8:12 AM:
" Typical of this type:
Fat, dirty clothes, no business sense, cares NOTHING about others' "rights", smokes, listens to Talk (talk talk talk talk talk) radio, is proud of Sarah Palin (the quitter), thinks Bush did a great job and had NOTHING to do with our current situation and on and on.
Yep, the PERFECT whining Republican who now belongs to the "Constitution Party"...
In a county with the highest unemployment, he is a prime example of what is probably wrong in Huron County.
Creepy. "
Fat, dirty clothes, no business sense, cares NOTHING about others' "rights", smokes, listens to Talk (talk talk talk talk talk) radio, is proud of Sarah Palin (the quitter), thinks Bush did a great job and had NOTHING to do with our current situation and on and on.
Yep, the PERFECT whining Republican who now belongs to the "Constitution Party"...
In a county with the highest unemployment, he is a prime example of what is probably wrong in Huron County.
Creepy. "
grape vine wrote on Jul 6, 2009 8:03 AM:
" it sure seems like murder, the old system, I pay for yours but can not afford my own? "
Clark W wrote on Jul 6, 2009 7:52 AM:
" This gentleman can say what he wants, but it's usually not wise to mix business and politics. "
TheAng wrote on Jul 6, 2009 7:46 AM:
" Check out the sign in picture 2. I think it's spelled "baby" not "babie" "
Loader wrote on Jul 6, 2009 7:31 AM:
" Anyone thought of getting a job and getting your own medical insurance? Hmm, maybe it's time to stop waiting for handouts and earn the things you get in life? "
Pragmatic wrote on Jul 6, 2009 7:16 AM:
" Everyone else can always do it better that those who were elected by the majority of everyone else. Interesting. The loudest people are those who haven’t been in a position to have to make the difficult decisions for the masses. People are constantly trying to oust leaders who were voted for by the people. I’m a veteran and a proud American – but we are an arrogant society – we’ll never be happy with who is voted into any office by our fellow Americans. Doers aren’t people who put signs up in their windows – doers are people who step up and run for office even when times are difficult. "
big boy wrote on Jul 6, 2009 7:14 AM:
" I'm sure all the "paying advertisers" in this paper can really appreciate all the "free" publicity this guy is getting. "
MomMom wrote on Jul 6, 2009 7:11 AM:
" What an idiot! Not only is he potentially going to lose customers over this, he is making the whole city of Norwalk look like idiots. I agree, if you don't want to use Universal Health when you are sick or injured just say so and I'm sure they will let you pay out of pocket, but don't speak for the thousands of people like me who have 2 little kids both with rare and extreme medical conditions that cost our family thousands and thousands of dollars every year that we can't afford. "
man4451 wrote on Jul 6, 2009 6:46 AM:
" This guy is CRAZY, if he does not want to have medical insurance, all you have to do is, WHEN entering the Hospital, just say you do not want to use the Universal Insurance, and you'f prefer to pay for your own.
Some business learned how to profit by charging extra to there employees to have medical insurance. "
Some business learned how to profit by charging extra to there employees to have medical insurance. "
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In 2003 Fraser Institute income was $6,620,038. In its annual report it discloses that 52% was from unspecified foundations, 38% from unspecified "organizations" (presumably corporations) and only 10% from individuals. "