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Gun advocates have praise for Strickland and Redfern

By CHAUNCEY ALCORN | Monday, June 25, 2007 1:13 PM EDT

SANDUSKY





Gun advocates are praising Ohio politicians who support keeping secret the identities of residents who have been granted licenses to carry concealed handguns.

Gov. Ted Strickland's office, state Rep. Chris Redfern, D-Catawba Island, and state Rep. Matt Barrett, D-Amherst, all said they support the 2004 law as written, which includes a secrecy provision exempting information about the licensing program from the public record.

Ashley Varner, a spokeswoman for the National Rifle Association said all three men are listening to their constituents, not just the NRA.

"The only reason the NRA has any power in Ohio is we have a lot of members who care about protecting their Second Amendment rights," she said.

Varner said newspapers that publish the names and county of residence of concealed handgun permit holders are putting innocent people at unnecessary risk.

"There are women who are hiding from abusive husbands or boyfriends," she said. "These are single women who may have been who may be afraid of stalkers, people who have been attacked previously and are threatened with repeat attacks."

Public records advocates contend public disclosure is the only way to assure the licensing program is not being abused or mishandled.

Varner said the vast majority of people who have been granted concealed handgun licenses are law-abiding citizens, according to federal studies and FBI statistics.

"People with licenses are the most law-abiding citizens in our country," she said. "Less than 2 percent are involved in criminal activity. Criminals do not go through background checks to obtain guns."

Jeff Garvas, president of the advocacy group, Ohioans for Concealed Carry, said in addition to the threat of criminals stealing their guns, concealed handgun license holders can be subject to discrimination if their names are made public.

Employers and landlords who don't agree with gun ownership could refuse to hire or rent to them, he said.

"There needs to be a balance between oversight and protecting the privacy of individuals who've done nothing wrong," Garvas said.

Garvas contends that newspapers across the state don't like that concealed carry permit holders' identities were legally private thanks to a public records "loophole" in the 2004 law.

He said these same newspapers were taking those lists and publishing them for political purposes.

"They've bulk published the names as a political statment because they're opposed to the records being available only to journalists," Garvas said.

Garvas said newspapers have abused the journalist loophole that allow reporters to receive the list of licensees.

"Why is the news media the overseer?" he asked. "There isn't a single news agency in any part of Ohio that has done a comprehensive review of every single license issued and tried to impose some sort of oversight ... The Legislature made the information available. (Journalists) are actively abusing it."

EDITOR'S NOTE: The decision to make the lists available to readers was made by the Register's managing editor.  All inquiries should be directed to 419-609-5866 or mattwesterhold@sanduskyregister.com

CLICK HERE to view the Erie County A-L concealed carry list.

CLICK HERE to view the Erie County M-Z concealed carry list.

CLICK HERE to view the Huron County concealed carry list.

CLICK HERE to view the Ottawa County concealed carry list.

CLICK HERE to view the Sandusky County concealed carry list.


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Angel wrote on Jan 4, 2008 3:25 PM:

" I just heard about this and as a woman and gun advocate I think it is absurd to print this type of information. Where is our privacy and where are our rights. Poeple had to go through three government agencies to get their permits and now you treat them like criminals. You are dispicable and useless. "

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e3mrk wrote on Sep 2, 2007 11:50 AM:

" I think to be fair if someone wants to publish a list of people that have a concealed carry license then they should also have a public list of those that do not. "

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Counsel wrote on Jul 31, 2007 8:17 PM:

" After reading the Ohio Revise Code as just posted it would seem prudent for you, Matt to remove these names immediately to avoid harsher charges that may be imposed by the State of Ohio pertaining to criminal violations of over 2500 counts. "

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The Law as written wrote on Jul 31, 2007 7:47 PM:

" Ohio Revised Code 2923.129 Section B (2) (a). Please read the law as written. “(2) (a) A journalist, on or after April 8, 2004, may submit to a sheriff a signed, written request to view the name, county of residence, and date of birth of each person to whom the sheriff has issued a license or replacement license to carry a concealed handgun, renewed a license to carry a concealed handgun, or issued a temporary emergency license or replacement temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun under section 2923.125 or 2923.1213 of the Revised Code, or a signed, written request to view the name, county of residence, and date of birth of each person for whom the sheriff has suspended or revoked a license to carry a concealed handgun or a temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun under section 2923.128 of the Revised Code. The request shall include the journalist’s name and title, shall include the name and address of the journalist’s employer, and shall state that disclosure of the information sought would be in the public interest. If a journalist submits a signed, written request to the sheriff to view the information described in this division, the sheriff shall grant the journalist’s request. The journalist shall not copy the name, county of residence, or date of birth of each person to or for whom the sheriff has issued, suspended, or revoked a license described in this division.” According to the Ohio Revised code a Journalist may view the information but may not copy the “name, county of residence, or date of birth” of the holder of a current, suspended or revoked CCW/CHL. The listed names and age under the posted counties in the Sandusky Register constitutes a copy of this information electronically in public view and is a violation of law according to this section of the Ohio Revised Code. Section B (1) of the same ORC defines this information as confidential and can only be released by a court order or a written request by a journalist (journalist as defined in Section B (2) (b) to be viewed but may not be copied. "

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Oxymar00n wrote on Jul 9, 2007 10:01 PM:

" Leftism under the guise of journalism, nothing more than using the protections of the 1st amendment to infringe on the privacy of those who believe in the 2nd amendment... I hope that paper goes under & its editor never finds work again. Seriously, what's the point of publishing the names of the lawful ones other than for public scrutiny? Good luck with your fight, CCW holders. Rich in Media, PA "

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Tom Flagg wrote on Jul 6, 2007 12:41 PM:

" As a former Ohioan, born and raised, I sit here at my desk in New Jersey, shaking my head at what has become of my Ohio. As if things haven't slipped far enough to the left, now Ohio has a newspaper that is offended by the privacy rights of Ohio citizens. I still have a lot of family in NE Ohio, and I will be contacting them about this shameful abuse of the first amendment in an attempt to crush the second amendment. Adm Hyman Rickover said that great minds discuss ideas, and small minds discuss people. I guess we now know what kinds of minds populate The Snadusky Register. "

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owen wrote on Jul 6, 2007 9:15 AM:

" This is horrible. What a violation of privacy, you all should be ashamed. "

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ConcernedJournalist wrote on Jul 2, 2007 10:22 AM:

" Please remove this list. This is journalism at its worse. You could post sex offenders and do more public good. I'm sadden to see this newspaper and its editor's history (yes matt, we know you've supported this before)be relived. This issue will not die. "

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re: Some names removed from the list? wrote on Jun 29, 2007 11:59 PM:

" Speaking of removing the names of family, friends, etc., I wonder if Matt Westerhold and the Sandusky Register publisher removed the names of judges, police officers, elected officials, and other highly connected powerful people and their families from the ccw list. I bet they did. If they didn't, they would be taking alot more heat than they are right now. Let's keep up the pressure on the SR and the businesses that advertise in this rag. Either Matt Westerhold goes or the advertisers do because we won't patronize any business that advertises with the SR. "

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This newspaper is going down hill... wrote on Jun 29, 2007 11:18 PM:

" Mr. Westerhold, when are you going to start publishing the names of victims of sexual assaults? They are after all matters of public record. "

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Yeah. Look what kind of harm can be done wrote on Jun 29, 2007 10:34 PM:

" by bad guys when irresponsible editors have a brain fart. What is the harm in publishing lists of concealed handgun license holders? http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/article3823.html "

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wow wrote on Jun 29, 2007 5:08 PM:

" You guys are pathetic, and should be ashamed of yourselves. What good does this do? Please justify this? How does this help other people? Are you so anti-gun you are stupid? "

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re: June 27th 8:34 wrote on Jun 28, 2007 1:12 PM:

" you have my sympathy for the Register printing your dad's name but then again how could expect them to actually check anything they print; when schools backed off on getting the Register I heard English classes lost a great tool in showing errors in grammer and spelling "

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stare wrote on Jun 27, 2007 9:40 PM:

" It is very easy to see that the legislators of Ohio were bamboozled into the ridiculous notion that journalists should get the lists of concealed carry licensees. But, since they began from a position of letting nobody have that info, when they decided to give it to the journalists, why in hell didn't they set some legal guidelines, and criminal penalties for violating those guidelines. Surely there are enough intelligent people in the state of Ohio, and its legislative bodies to understand that a great many journalists and editorial writers hate America, and are doing their best to destroy it. Why would they trust a bunch of snakes? In an editorial, Matt Westerhold questioned the bravery of Strickland and Redfern. I've a little challenge or two for him. First, publish his home address. Second, put up a large sign, or paint on the front of his domicile that his is a home without guns. Most of his ilk shop for their jockstraps in the infants department, so am sure there is no way he'll accept either challenge. "

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. wrote on Jun 27, 2007 8:35 PM:

" The register didn't even verify the info on the "list" before it was published. My father, who is deceased (3 years), is on the list. Nice for my family to now have to worry about our Mom's safety because of the register being irresponsible. This comment may likely be removed as I've noticed the register has been heavily censoring comments... IRRESPONSIBLE, NEGLIGENT and CARELESS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

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Why did you do it??? wrote on Jun 27, 2007 2:24 PM:

" I do not carry but I support those that do. Sandusky Register I think that you were WRONG to print the names of these people. I support those that say DO NOT BUY THE SANDUSKY REGISTER ANYMORE!!! You did not help anyone by printing those names... "

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Still waiting........ wrote on Jun 26, 2007 9:56 PM:

" ..................................... "

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Still waiting wrote on Jun 26, 2007 9:27 PM:

" For a logical, reasonable, sensible reason for posting a hit list of good, decent, law-abiding citizens' homes for our local degenerate criminals to shop for free guns. "

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Still waiting wrote on Jun 26, 2007 9:24 PM:

" For a list of convicted criminals over the past two years in Erie County. The house next door is up for sale and I'm desperately concerned about the background of the new owner. If they are on the CCW list, I'll know they are good people but if not, how will I know whether to be wary or not? "

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My Register delivery person was not happy today wrote on Jun 26, 2007 8:44 PM:

" He rang our doorbell and presented us with a piece of paper, asking if what was written on the paper was true. After reading "This customer canceled their Sandusky Register subscription because we printed their names on the CCW list." we affirmed that it was true. He was very disappointed and told us that shortly after receiving the notice today, he showed it to someone affiliated with the Erie Co. Conservation League. I don't recall the name he gave but that person didn't know about the CCW list being released on this website because he doesn't get the SR, however, he was very upset to learn about it. Hopefully, he's someone who can make waves, too. Furthermore, Matt Westerhold obviously has no concern for his delivery person's who are losing money from the canceled subscriptions. I feel bad doing this to the person who has delivered our paper every day since 1994 but enough is enough. "

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Statement wrote on Jun 26, 2007 7:43 PM:

" "Why is the news media the overseer?" he asked. "There isn't a single news agency in any part of Ohio that has done a comprehensive review of every single license issued and tried to impose some sort of oversight ... The Legislature made the information available. (Journalists) are actively abusing it." ~ Well stated Mr. Garvas!! "

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Re:Help on the way wrote on Jun 26, 2007 5:56 PM:

" No doubt on the common sense and responsibility thing and whatever the NRA can do to help out, I would back that 100% if my name were among those published! "

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help on the way wrote on Jun 26, 2007 5:17 PM:

" hopefully the NRA has received this article and they will provide some assistance; first should be a class in common sense and responsibility "

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Wow wrote on Jun 26, 2007 4:39 PM:

" Sounds like the names of the people that were published need to get in touch with an attorney. "

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THE LAW CLEARLY STATES: wrote on Jun 26, 2007 9:49 AM:

" """The journalist SHALL NOT COPY the name, county of residence, or date of birth of each person to or for whom the sheriff has issued, suspended, or revoked a license described in this division. """" Uh, if Matt Westerhold didn't copy the names, who did???? "

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I sure am glad that I voted for Strickland and Redfern wrote on Jun 26, 2007 9:40 AM:

" Too bad we don't get a vote about what is published illegally in the newspaper. Oh wait. We did. The Register's own poll was overwhelmingly against putting this list of names up for the public to view. The morons who run the Register need to be fired. "

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Fire Matt Westerhold wrote on Jun 26, 2007 9:37 AM:

" He is not a managing editor he's a stalker, abuser, robber, enabler. "

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Memo to Erie County thugs wrote on Jun 26, 2007 1:27 AM:

" Before you begin burglarizing our homes, could you please steal Matt Westerhold's car first? He's probably got a real nice car, enough to hold bunches of stolen loot. "

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I stand and applaud B &B Auto for taking a stance wrote on Jun 26, 2007 1:23 AM:

" Aaron, if anything happens to anyone on the list or their families as a direct result of this list being published, you can be sure there will be lawsuits filed vs Matt Westerhold. "

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I stand and applaud B &B Auto for taking a stance wrote on Jun 26, 2007 1:22 AM:

" My subscription was cancelled this morning and we'll probably subscribe to the Lorain Morning Journal instead or none. "

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To: B + B Auto wrote on Jun 26, 2007 12:14 AM:

" I applaud your actions sir. Salute! "

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Angered by stupidity wrote on Jun 25, 2007 10:36 PM:

" Have you lost your mind. Or are you trying to suck up to your liberal boss. How can you put these peoples lives at risk by doing such a stupid thing. I am sure you truly do not care about these people or their families. just selling your stupid rag and putting a feather in your cap is all you care about. Maybe where you keep your spare house key ought to be published in your paper and what time you won't be home but your wife and childern will be. "

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Aaron wrote on Jun 25, 2007 10:27 PM:

" Any one know if Matt Westerhold can be sued for releasing thany of these names? "

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Scott W. wrote on Jun 25, 2007 10:23 PM:

" Here in Oh, We normally have no protection unless we protect ourselves! "

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My Register carrier is going to be upset wrote on Jun 25, 2007 9:49 PM:

" at losing a good paying, tipping, Christmas gift giving customer. He relies on the tips, etc. to subsidize the measly pay he gets for delivering papers. Tough luck. The subscription has been cancelled. "

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Alohacate wrote on Jun 25, 2007 9:18 PM:

" Conceal and Carry Who needs to know? Uhm, someone who wants to steal a gun........way to go! "

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Alohacate wrote on Jun 25, 2007 9:15 PM:

" The real hypocrites are the reporter(s) of this "newspaper" who thought that printing a list of names was somehow a story? "

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Turn about is fair play wrote on Jun 25, 2007 9:14 PM:

" Well since CCW holders are being made out to be criminals by this crappy newspaper I guess it's going to be my turn. Everybody that has a Register paper carrier in their neighborhood follow along. NEXT TIME THE REGISTER CARRIER WALKS ACROSS YOUR YARD OR ON YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY HAVE THEM ARRESTED FOR TRESPASSING. You never know they might be casing your house to break in from being on "THE LIST" their boss gave them. Makes about as much sense as the Register publishing this list. "

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I just searched a friend's name who has an unlisted number wrote on Jun 25, 2007 8:50 PM:

" on MSN.com's white pages. His name and address came up, but no phone number. The gun thieves and thugs aren't going to need the phone numbers anyway, unless they plan on calling to see if the gun owners are home before they come over to burglarize their houses. If you are on the CCW permit list and have an unlisted phone number, you're address is still easy to find. Thanks Matt Westerhold for providing a means for the bad guys to easily obtain guns. "

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Re:Anonymous wrote on Jun 25, 2007 8:42 PM:

" It should'nt be so hard to do....you can do a COMPLETE background check online for only $25. All public records will be disclosed including skeletons that people would rather forget about. "

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anonymus wrote on Jun 25, 2007 7:03 PM:

" Mr. Westerhold, I hope you like your anonimity while it last. I am going to make public your home address and home phone number and any other pesonal information I can find, just like you did with all of those ccw holders for no reason. "

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Future Gun Owner wrote on Jun 25, 2007 6:04 PM:

" The guy who broke in is responsible for that. "

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If I Only had a Brain.... wrote on Jun 25, 2007 6:03 PM:

" It's scraping the bottom of the barrel folks when the "news of the day" turns out to be the local print media and the so-called print media journalists. Way to go Mr. Westerhold. You've managed to disenfranchise a substantial portion of your paying subscribers and potential subscribers. What's your next brilliant move? Looks like you've just shot yourself in the foot...oh, me! excuse the pun! ;-) "

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who's responsible wrote on Jun 25, 2007 5:58 PM:

" Who is going to take responsibility when a criminal breaks into a home of a ccw carrier and tries to steal his weapons and the owner shoots and kills him? Who do we blame for that?? "

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to mad as heck wrote on Jun 25, 2007 5:34 PM:

" where in the world do you think your phone number was printed... i see your age, name and county of residence. NOT YOUR STREET ADDRESS, NOT YOUR PHONE NUMBER! You gun-toting neanderthals are all the same when it comes to attitude, now you're apparently illiterate too. I'm so sick of you right-wing wackos preaching that we need religion, and then shooting people and animals. Who are the real hypocrites here? "

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Mad as Heck wrote on Jun 25, 2007 5:06 PM:

" My phone number intentially is unlisted because it is my right. Now because I carry a concealed weapon - I have lost this right? Moreover, this newspaper has decided to take that right away from me? Seems like if I was a real criminal I would have more rights? "

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Awed wrote on Jun 25, 2007 4:24 PM:

" I am awed by your ignorance of your own profession. The Roanoke Times performed the same stunt as you, publishing the names of law abiding concealed carry holders. Why do you scum think people carry? What do you think of the abused wife, hiding from her husband. The ex Law Enforcement officer, whom past "acquaintances" might want to track down. The list is long. Irresponsible journalism, if you can call it "journalism". And you call what you do a profession. Streetwalkers have more class. "

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due credit wrote on Jun 25, 2007 4:23 PM:

" was just able to forward your article to the NRA to give your paper the full credit I think you deserve for printing such a list "

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ITS A Rite Not A Privilege wrote on Jun 25, 2007 4:15 PM:

" The stupidity of the people that posted this list is almost unbelievable! Why not post a list that will help your community, Sex offenders ect..... These people are not criminals, they do not deserve this. I have canceled my subscription and will boycott your advertisers. "

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Non-Gun Owner/Gun Supporter wrote on Jun 25, 2007 3:58 PM:

" The lists aren't news stories. If they were, they would include some analysis, some explanation of the choice to publish them, something more than the tired idea that people with guns are scary. Perhaps they would include the statistics that every jurisdiction in the United States that has authorized concealed carry has seen a drop in violent crime and gun-related crime. Perhaps they would mention how many license holders have been convicted of gun-related crimes in the years since Ohio authorized concealed carry (none?). Perhaps they would publish articles about people who have defended their lives and property with guns. This is a clear political statement by the paper: "We don't approve of your carrying guns and we will make trouble for you for doing so". "

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I learned something today wrote on Jun 25, 2007 3:56 PM:

" as a veteran I had promised I would never touch or in any way handle a gun again nor would I get involved with anything or anyone having to do with guns; you have just taught me the value of joining the NRA and my membership will include your article printing the list of gun owners; congratulations!!!!!!!! "

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American Citizen wrote on Jun 25, 2007 3:50 PM:

" I have an idea for you, How about doing a real news story for a change. How about doing a story on all the real criminals that have been sentenced to parole for being a felon in possession of a fire arm. Or a felon that was using a gun to commit a crime and how the fire arm charge was dropped as if it was meaningless. Why not do some real reporting and find out why criminals are treated better by the press then an honest law-abiding hard working tax payer just exercising there rights. JUST AS YOU CLAIM TO DO PUBLISHING THIS LIST. Funny how its your right to publish but its not our right to be a gun owner. You might want to look up the word hypocrite! "

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Non-Gun Owner/Gun Supporter wrote on Jun 25, 2007 3:49 PM:

" This is a travesty. The point of concealed carry is the concealment. Many of these people are carrying weapons to protect themselves from specific threats to their safety. You have just put them in greater danger. All of these people are exercising a right our founding fathers considered important enough to specifically enumerate in the Bill of Rights. They had the wisdom to realize that only an armed populace could protect itself from a government that might take away its rights. In addition, an unarmed populace is at the mercy of criminals who do not respect or follow the law in this regard and own, carry, and use weapons to do harm to others and carry out their crimes. Terrible idea and it cannot be undone. I sincerely hope nobody is hurt or killed as a result of this idiocy. "

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hot issue wrote on Jun 25, 2007 3:33 PM:

" thanks to the latest list the Register has now taken the pressure off schools and placed it upon themselves; wonder if the Register warned employees before they printed the list; now everyone will know where to get a gun without paying "

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Gary wrote on Jun 25, 2007 3:02 PM:

" Until today I had always made a prudent effort to "Conceal" my handgun. NO MORE! I have been outed by the Plain Dealer and now by this rag. So have it your way... OPEN CARRY- Nobody will ever have to guess whether or not I'm armed. It will be obvious that I'm indeed carrying a firearm. I tried to keep it my business, but that wasn't good enough... so be it. "

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in a neather county thank GOD wrote on Jun 25, 2007 2:47 PM:

" you people at the register did you leave your name on the list or did you accidenly forget to put it on the list having a ccw is privite so whin somthing happens to sombody on your list and the crimenal says thay got the name form your list thin what "THINK ABOUT" "

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who wrote on Jun 25, 2007 2:15 PM:

" who accepts responsibility for anything that might happen to the people on this list for being burglarized or stalked because everyone knows who has a gun; since the Register printed the list will they accept the responsibility that goes with printing the list? "

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alohacate wrote on Jun 25, 2007 2:07 PM:

" Why do I need to have access to a list of registered gun owners? Why is this considered news? Sounds more like Big Brother. "

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Good example... wrote on Jun 25, 2007 1:03 PM:

" The veiled threats you have made to some of the staff at the Sandusky Register proves to me that maybe the average citizen (or Register employee) needs to know who is licensed to carry a gun. "

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lobby space wrote on Jun 25, 2007 12:54 PM:

" I can only hope that all those names that you so stupidly listed will come to the Register and voice their opinion directly to you and your staff; am sure you and your staff would welcome them openly since you thoght it was such a good idea to print all their names and will you now take responsibility for anything that might happen to them, their family or personal property because everyone now knows who has a gun? "

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I will carry my gun more often, now, thanks to the Sandusky Rag wrote on Jun 25, 2007 12:46 PM:

" I now feel compelled to carry my handgun more often than before this list was published for fear of a break-in while I'm not at home. Most certainly, I do not want my weapon in the hands of a criminal. Thanks Register for providing the local criminals some easy targets for finding handguns. You're the best!!!! "

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Register Advertisers Beware wrote on Jun 25, 2007 11:58 AM:

" You will be boycotted for supporting this ridiculous display of irresponsibility by Matt Westerhold and Chauncey Alcorn and the entire Register group. "

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Non Permit Holder Who Cancelled wrote on Jun 25, 2007 11:07 AM:

" This liberal rag has gone waaay too far. If I wanted to read the National Enquirer I would get it at the grocery store! I just cancelled my subscription! Good-Bye Register! Thanks to Chauncey Alcorn, Matt Westerhold, and Marie Hildebrandt! Now I am working on calling the businesses who advertise with the Register and telling them I will not do business any longer with them until they pull their advertising! "

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law abiding citizen/former Sandusky Register subscriber wrote on Jun 25, 2007 11:03 AM:

" FREDDIE!!!!!! Just a friendly reminder!!! The Register staff about two weeks ago, in the print edition referred to Gov. Strickland and Chris Redfern as idiots. I certainly consider that a personal attack on two public officials. Ah, I see what's good for the goose is NOT good for the gander. TWO-FACED HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

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law abiding citizen/former Sandusky Register subscriber wrote on Jun 25, 2007 11:00 AM:

" Additionally, we will be taking our weapons with us, but the thugs in town won't know that. "

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law abiding citizen/former Sandusky Register subscriber wrote on Jun 25, 2007 10:58 AM:

" Thanks to the Register, the bad elements in the area have a new hit-list of homes to stake out and burglarize. We will soon be going out of town and our child will be coming here to stay during that time. I am now afraid for her safety. Thanks Chauncey and Matt for instilling fear in me to have my young adult daughter stay in our home sweet home, alone. "

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law abiding citizen/former Sandusky Register subscriber wrote on Jun 25, 2007 10:54 AM:

" I've though of another list the rag could publish that WOULD be a public service. How about listing the names of each and every Ohio soldier killed or maimed in that hell-hole called Iraq?? Why not list every soldier from Erie Co and the surrounding counties who are serving in Iraq or Afghanistan with addresses so we can write and send them things? Talk about a public service. How about giving the public what they want? Even the Rags own poll about publishing the names was overwhelmingly AGAINST publishing the CCW permit holders. So this wasn't a public service committed by the Register, but rather a thug service. "

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law abiding citizen just cancelled my subscription ,too. wrote on Jun 25, 2007 10:49 AM:

" Not only does publishing the list of CCW permit holders have nothing to do with public service, it also may give some a false sense of security, thinking that they know which neighbors or acquaintances probably owns firearms. Thousands of legal gun owners DO NOT have CCW permits. How about printing a list of those who've purchased guns in the last 10 years?? Why not print a list of those who failed a background check and couldn't???? The latter are people the public should be made aware of. I've said it before, the list is an exemplary example of some of the most upstanding, law abiding citizens in the area. Chauncey, Westerhold and all the other hypocrites who pushed to print this list should be so lucky as to have any one of the people they've exposed as friends. "

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Jerry wrote on Jun 25, 2007 10:45 AM:

" Good news story until I seen the links to concealed carry list. This is the very reason why the news media is no longer a trusted source for news and why they/you are losing customers every day. "

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law abiding citizen just cancelled my subscription ,too. wrote on Jun 25, 2007 10:43 AM:

" "He said these same newspapers were taking those lists and publishing them for political purposes. "They've bulk published the names as a political statment because they're opposed to the records being available only to journalists," Garvas said. Garvas said newspapers have abused the journalist loophole that allow reporters to receive the list of licensees. "Why is the news media the overseer?" he asked. "There isn't a single news agency in any part of Ohio that has done a comprehensive review of every single license issued and tried to impose some sort of oversight ... The Legislature made the information available. (Journalists) are actively abusing it." From the article printed above. So the Register stoops to endanger lives of good, upstanding, law-abiding citizens, who many subscribe to their newspaper just to make a political statement. DISGRACEFUL!!!!! TOTALLY DISGRACEFUL!!!! I'm still waiting on the list of local criminals that have been convicted in the last 2 years and how many of them had CCW permits and who has been released from prison looking to move into my neighborhood. Now that would be a public service but doesn't make a political statement. Of course, the Rag won't post that list. "

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Matt wrote on Jun 25, 2007 10:41 AM:

" Publishing a list of concealed carry permit holders is not a public service like publishing the names of deadbeat dads or sexual predators. Everyone who has a permit has passed a background check and training. What about those holders who got one because of legitimate threats on their lives? It's disgusting that the media won't stand up to the leadership of this country, but feels free to expose private citizens. "

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law abiding citizen just cancelled my subscription ,too. wrote on Jun 25, 2007 10:38 AM:

" freddie!!!! personal attacks will be removed??? How about removing the lists if you're so concerned about personal attacks???? Each and every person on their is being personally attacked and are now subject to harassment or even danger. Sandusky Register employees = HYPOCRITES "

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law abiding citizen just cancelled my subscription ,too. wrote on Jun 25, 2007 10:35 AM:

" jd, you've got it wrong. The Register views CCW permit holders as WORSE criminals than sex offenders as I have NEVER seen a list of local sex offenders published on their website or in the local paper. "

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default wrote on Jun 25, 2007 10:35 AM:

" Absolutely unbelievable. I hope for your sake that your legal department is good and your advertisers don't mind scandals. There is utterly no valid reason to publish these lists. Clearly the intent was to invade the privacy of permit holders for political reasons, and the result will be to aid or encourage either crime or harassment against them. "

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law abiding citizen just cancelled my subscription ,too. wrote on Jun 25, 2007 10:34 AM:

" Just goes to show that the Register doesn't give a crap about their paper carriers. We have always paid for our subscription in full each year and we also tip our delivery person very well and have bestowed nice a hefty Christmas gift to him every winter. Now that we won't be receiving the SR anymore, I'm sure they don't care at the income our delivery guy is losing. "

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Subscription Cancelled wrote on Jun 25, 2007 10:21 AM:

" My name was published on their website, therefore I just cancelled my subscription. Adios SR... I may use your product if I run out of TP... "

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JD wrote on Jun 25, 2007 9:51 AM:

" To publish the names,ages and locations of law abiding citizens doing nothing more than exercising their 2nd amendment right, IS a violation of their privacy AND a despicable act. It's quite clear the editor and writers of this paper view law abiding citizens to be in the same league as registered sex offenders. "

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what's in a name wrote on Jun 25, 2007 9:24 AM:

" the passing of this law, while I disagree, was named "concealed" for a reason; now the Register publishes the names of all holders; they have become good a publishing lists and can't help but wonder what list they will want to publish next "

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Former Sanduskian who works for the NRA! wrote on Jun 25, 2007 8:50 AM:

" This is disgusting! The publishing of this list is an unspeakable travesty. Once again, the Sandusky Register has proven beyond any doubt their staggering bad judgment. "

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Freddie wrote on Jun 25, 2007 8:24 AM:

" Just a friendly reminder... Posts containing personal attacks and/or profanity are subject to removal per our discussion guidelines. Thanks. "

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They listened to me wrote on Jun 25, 2007 8:11 AM:

" I do not belong to the NRA, never have. However I did send a message to Redfern and Strickland voicing my support of their belief that the list should not be published. This is not just a gun owner issue "

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No big deal wrote on Jun 25, 2007 8:08 AM:

" The list wasn't a big deal. There were some names I recognized from Sandusky. Unless someone's life is at risk, I don't see the purpose of having to pack a gun. Most businesses say you can't bring it into their area, but that is a joke because most of the time the gun is concealed anyway and you don't know the difference. I rather buy an alarm for my home than pack a gun. Their must be some kind of facination with the idea. I am not for people packing guns on the street unless you live in a big city where crime is high and you can't walk the streets safely. "

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what's next wrote on Jun 25, 2007 8:04 AM:

" Is nothing private anymore? Do we have any rights? I guess the next thing to go after are the people with aids. Will you publish their names too? "

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NO wrote on Jun 25, 2007 7:51 AM:

" No you do NOT have to subscribe to the paper to get the names. I do not subscribe to the paper, in fact I don't even purchase the paper and I have access to ALL the names. All you have to have is computer access. "

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Location of names wrote on Jun 25, 2007 7:37 AM:

" This is to confused. The names are only available if you are taking e-paper of which you have to subscribe to the e-paper to get it. The names were not published in the hard copy paper. "

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More Liberal Media Bias wrote on Jun 25, 2007 7:28 AM:

" The Legislature made the information available. (Journalists) are actively abusing it." Can we rely on news print journalists to sift through all the paperwork to exclude those people from the list who carry a concealed weapon because of a stalker or an abusive violent ex-spouse? "

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JimBob wrote on Jun 25, 2007 7:05 AM:

" Congrats to the Register. If it hasn't been already, it's now officially a great garbage and fish wrap. "

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Bill wrote on Jun 25, 2007 6:27 AM:

" This publishing of names of permit holders by the Register is the most revolting, assinine thing that I have seen in years. I will never purchase another Sandusky Register or support their advertizers after this date. "

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