No indictment in Cordle killing

Family members not surprised
Register
Mar 10, 2014

 

A grand jury that heard evidence last week in the 1988 killing of Isabel Cordle did not return an indictment today.

Sandusky County sheriff's deputy Sean O'Connell contacted family members shortly after the grand jury's decision. 

"He told me the problem was the show went after one person and in the grand jury they went after another," Richard Cordle Jr. told the Register. "He said one witness also changed their testimony from when they talked to detectives and what they told the grand jury."

The "show" O'Connell referred to is the TNT television network's "Cold Justice" program, which teams up celebrity detectives with local law enforcement agencies to solve old cases that weren't resolved. In February 2013, Sandusky County Sheriff Kyle Overmyer contacted the program and asked for help with the killing of Isabel Cordle.

She was killed by an unknown assailant on Jan. 24, 1988, who used an axe, striking Isabel Cordle in the head and killing her instantly.

The "Cold Justice" episode featuring the axe killing first aired in October, and finished with just one person remaining as a suspect, Richard Cordle Sr.

Cordle Sr. has always maintained his innocence, and after the program aired O'Connell said new information was developed that cleared him and pointed to another person.  

O'Connell and Sandusky County prosecutor Tom Stierwalt were not immediately available for comment on Monday.

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Comments

DickTracey

The grand jury made that decision, or did Stierwalt override and "no bill" it?

cordler

That seems more like it to me considering what Stierwalt said to my husband in the conference room right before he went in to testify to the grand jury.

Julie R.

What did he say?

cordler

Dick, we just got word from Sean O'Connell that the prosecutor done a "NO BILL" what a joke, this is far from over!!!!

DickTracey

I'm very sorry to hear that, not surprised, but sorry for the family.

Stierwalt put it in front of the grand jury to shut up the family and Register. He thought he could steer them in the direction he wanted. Then he could say "see, I did what you wanted, now shut up, it's over."

When the grand jury indicted, he pulled his "no bill" card.

Babo

The prosecutor can not enter a No Bill, only the Grand jury can enter a No Bill. However the prosecutor can present his evidence in such a fashion as to lead the Grand Jury to No Bill just as he can present his evidence in such a fashion as to indict a ham sandwich.

In this case, if O'Connell's statements are to be believed, it appears Stierwalt intentionally and improperly presented evidence from the TV Show to confuse and misdirect the grand jurors to obtain a NO Bill.

There was no proper reason whatsoever to present the TV show as evidence since the new evidence contradicts the show.

Fransa007

it was 100% no billed

Julie R.

Grand juries are a worthless joke. Everybody around knows a grand jury is run by the prosecutor, who doesn't even have to provide all the evidence to a grand jury.

DickTracey

Grand jury's are not worthless, or a joke. These are people of the community that have to take time off work and take this very seriously.

The prosecutor, is a worthless joke, who thinks he is a rock star, and doesn't want to try a case he is not assured of winning. The prosecutor has no regard to the family's feelings what so ever. He got their hopes up just to shoot them down.

Fransa007

Let me correct you he did not want this case his assistant ran it not him.
She was clueless when I spoke to her about certain facts Thanks D T You rock.

Babo

I note the assistant prosecutor is female. Was it assistant prosecutor Lorraine Croy, the same assistant who according to another poster reviewed the Ricky Vitte Jr alleged masturbation case for Stierwalt and claimed there's no case?

She's a candidate for Common Pleas Court judge in Ottawa County and has a history in my opinion of placing politics before justice. (She allegedly helped protect a sexual predator of underage males in Ottawa County who is related to a powerful politician) If Croy ran this grand jury she's got a lot of explaining to do as a candidate and she needs to explain why she can't find any criminal conduct in cases involving men who allegedly abused young males. (Vitte Jr. Mark Carter etc)

DickTracey

Maybe Croy was raised as a Catholic, where you turn your head and ignore a grown man abusing a little boy. If what you are saying is true, than she is doing nothing different than what Catholics have always done, look the other way and ignore the abuse. It is so vulgar, they do not want to think about it, let alone hear the evidence or say it out loud. It is ingrained in every young Catholic, that a priest can do no wrong. You would be ostracized for telling the truth, so you look the other way, excuse it, and ignore it.

Remember prosecutor, good ole Charlie Sliter, in Bellevue? When an abused victim came to him, he chose his church over the child,(and the parents who were friends of Charlie!) and refused to prosecute! The parents knew Charlie from church, and Charlie was their lawyer, but Charlie, chose to look the other way, no guts to take down his own priest. Google it, if you do not recall.

Charlie is a perfect example of a prosecutor selectively choosing not to prosecute a pedophile, in fear of being ostracized by the church.

The difference between Catholics and normal people, is that normal people find a man abusing a boy, disgusting, repulsive, and wrong. Our reaction is revenge, anger, justice and tell the world! Where as most Catholics will look the other way, turn their head, or even slap the face of a little boy victim and tell him to quit lying.

My comment is not to bash on Catholics, I know you are one. I only wanted to proove a point with facts, and offer a hypothetical as to why Croy "may" tend to look the other way on cases involving pedophilia. (especially man on boy)

Babo

Yes Croy claims to be Roman Catholic, as do Prosecutors Baxter, Mulligan and Stierwalt, the Murrays, the Kinzels etc. However, I think it's unfair and an example of poor argumentative writing to apply broad generalizations to all RCC members.

You appear to confuse people who claim affiliation with the RCC for political or business reasons with faithful people of God. After all most members of old time organized crime also claim to be RC or Jewish but nobody would think of them as faithful or moral people.

Also, it's been exhaustively documented that there is far more sexual abuse of children in public schools and or other government agencies such as police agencies than within the RCC. Thus, do you think all teachers and police officers are prone to covering up child sexual abuse because of the high incidence of it in their fields?

For me the reason the abuse was able to continue in the RCC for as long as it did was more a function of people in government protecting it for political reasons than some inherent evil in the true Church.
Antisocial people are users and they use one another until they invariably turn on one another. They are attracted by their nature to powerful hierarchal institutions such as courts, police agencies, government offices and of course the RCC and many other religious entities.

By the way I am a practicing Christian. You seem to harbor a lot of hatred and knowledge of the RCC. Were you a victim of sexual abuse that was protected by RCC members?

DickTracey

"Was I a victim of sexual abuse?" That is a very insensitive and quite frankly a very callous question. I feel like my answer is going to disappoint you.

No, I was never sexually abused. I was not raised Catholic, so there was no way to be brainwashed by them or for the perverts to get their hands on me.

I also harbor a great deal of hatred for Mike McQueary and Dottie Sandusky, but I never took a shower with Jerry. So I am not sure what your point is.

The insensitivity on your part, to ask that on a public forum, to a complete stranger, under a story about a woman, who in theory, was killed for reporting sexual abuse, is quite disturbing.

You will find something to argue about in every comment, even the ones who agree with you. Which organizations have the most sexual abusers, Catholics or teachers and LEO's? Who cares? I am not keeping score, I will report them all, I don't care how powerful they are.

...and to think, I was just going to tell you about Judge Burge. Guess you'll have to wait months now to find out when every one else does.

Babo

Cry me a river......I don't believe you would ever report an abuser in reality. In fact you've gone to great lengths in here and in other comments in your busy fantasy life to discredit people who at personal risk report abusers. Furthermore, your writing style reflects IMO a person who is an emotionally abusive coward.

For example, a question was posited to another poster asking if Lorraine Croy a candidate for a judgeship was the assistant prosecutor who presented the case to the Grand jury. Instead of offering anything substantive or helpful; you responded with a screed against Catholics.

If you truly want to help the Cordle family and others like them then provide them good information in how to obtain justice. From my perspective you appear to be trying to distract from the larger issue that the problems of child sexual abuse in churches, schools, homes etc occur because some of those charged with investigating, prosecuting it, and adjudicating it are compromised.

You claim to know me so maybe you have some personal reason to attack me here or maybe you just don't have the analytical skills or education to keep up.

And if you're trying to tantalize me with some scandalous allegation against Judge Burge; save it, because Judge Burge would be one of the men abusive LEO's and prosecutors would likely try to discredit with a false allegation.

pizon

Well your point is just plain stupid. Most Catholics do not support abuse of children by anyone no matter who they are. And you did bash Catholics and you know it. DICK

Bodega

From what I've heard, Lorraine Croy and her husband have three (or four ?) kids and "sympathetic to child abusers" is not the phrase people would use to describe her or her husband. In fact, people saying she's 'soft on child abuse' is ignorant given the rumors going about why Croy left the Ottawa County court. I've heard that there was a lawyer named Sarah who was working for Judge Winters at the courthouse and she was being investigated for abusing one of her own kids. Apparently, the Judge didn't see fit to do anything about it at the time and people are saying that Croy and the Judge had a falling out about such shenanigans. Maybe that's why Croy left Ottawa County???? All this crazy talk about people supporting pedophiles based on their religion is disgusting.

nothappy

So very true Dick Tracey. You are very wise indeed!

cordler

Julie, Tom said he wanted to talk to my husband (Richard Jr.) just to let him know how things work with the grand jury. While he had him in the conference room he basically said that he did not believe that he was sexually abused by Mark Carter. Also a few months ago Sean O'Connell refused to go and get the documentation from doctors ect to prove the abuse, and said he wasn't convinced.

Babo

Who is Mark Carter? Is he the new suspect in the murder?

It's outrageous that O'Connell and Stierwalt will not believe a victim or do the work to obtain the evidence. Their behavior strongly suggests they are both compromised.

Your family should consider filing a Removal from Office Complaint on Stierwalt (See RC 309.05) with supporting affidavits citing the fact that Stierwalt will not obtain evidence of sexual abuse in the case. In the alternative you could file a Complaint with the AG's office pursuant to RC 177.02 and RC 177.03 asking for investigation and special prosecutor based on the appearance that Stierwalt is compromised and or biased.

cordler

Thank you and Dick you are very right however what he done is not going to just shut us up this is far from over. Chanel 13 news done some interviews today and it will be on the news tonight at 11.

nothappy

Glad you're not giving up!!! Justice needs to be served!!!!!

Stop It

Sandusky County, their way AND the highway.

cordler

Mark Carter is the coward who sexually abused my husband about a year prior to the murder and when he took a plea agreement he said in the courthouse to Isabel "it's not over till your dead bit** and yet still Steirwalt don't have enough. That is because he don't want to have enough. Thank you and we have contactes a few civil attorneys.

Babo

In another article it is suggested that Carter has a history with underage males and that a suspect (16 year old male who was close to Carter) in this case died. Is the theory in this case Murder for Hire by Carter and does Carter have connections or political influence?

Why would the prosecutor's office want to protect him?

Julie R.

According to yesterday's article in the Register, the new information received after the "Cold Justice" program aired involved a 16-year-old boy, Greg Weller, who was the son of a sheriff's deputy. O'Connell said: "Can I comfortably say Greg Weller is the one responsible for the murder? No." He then went on to say: "Do I have reason to believe this person (Greg Weller) was behind the murder of Isabel Cordle? Yes, I do."

According to the paper, Weller died of cancer three years after the murder and his parents are also now deceased.

Babo

Thanks Julie. It tends to support other reports related to me from child victims of law enforcement officers; i.e. that child sexual abuse/trafficking and drug abuse/tfafficking are not uncommon among some LEO's and some area deaths are related to protecting their activities. Further, that some area prosecutors, attorneys and judges are also involved in protecting the activity.

Also, does anyone know the nature of the cancer that was the cause of death of Weller?

Julie R.

The paper doesn't say what the nature of the cancer was. It just says Weller was diagnosed with terminal cancer at the time and died three years after the murder of Isabel Cordle.

starryeyes83

Is this the same MC who worked for a Clyde plastics company as maintenance? If so, I do vaguely remember hearing some things.

cordler

Yes that's the same person and he still works there. What dud you hear?

cordler

If you have information please contact Matt Westerhold at the Register please.

cordler

If you have information please contact Matt Westerhold at the Register please.

cordler

If you have information please contact Matt Westerhold at the Register please.

starryeyes83

No info, just apparently rumors and It was all hearsay and many years ago.

Dolph02

My condolences. If this is far from over,I wouldn't be commenting Ms Cordler.

cordler

I have not said anything that has not already been made public and we have already been advised what we can and cant say but thank you

Babo

Mrs. Cordle: The death threat made by Carter to your late mother in law was virtually identical to a death threat made to a young woman who tried to expose the alleged cover up of the murder of her mother. The young woman claimed to be a victim of child sexual abuse at the hands of her father a former Ottawa County Deputy sheriff. She was also passed around to others.

Her mother was about to go to authorities about what she knew (child trafficking and drug trafficking by LEOs) when she died. (1997) The young woman stated that an attorney mentioned in stories in the SR related to alleged cover-ups in Sandusky County was involved in the activity. She stated children of LEOs like herself and possibly Weller were trafficked for profit and given drugs.

The story is so evil it defies all logic. If one tries to speak of it one gets labeled as crazy by area government and obstacles are created to prevent justice. Stay strong and faithful!

Also, kudos to the SR for shining light on this story.

cordler

I can not thank you enough for what you just stated. Please contact Matt Westerholt at the register I would really like to talk to you. He has my number. You can also contact fnagel007@aol.com. she is working on our case.

my oh my

It is what it is...

Fransa007

Isabel Cordle would still be here breathing had John The prosecutor called the Judge right back in the court room and told him that threat was made surly the Sheriffs in court that day had a duty to contact the judge and inform him but no they did not and Isabel paid with her life!.. The plea agreement for three years should have been thrown out after his threat. Yes know doubt he had someone else do his dirty work. Blame the dead guy G W na he had help and lots of it!!! Hey I want a new Grand Jury a Federal Prosecutor In light of new information on the software debacle....How could anyone have a jury believe in a case when the prosecutor states alleged rape. Hello did John the former Prosecutor from the same office not give The perp a fair trial because S C S D filed the case with Both John and Tom. Its unacceptable to have anyone who worked with Cold Justice in that department to run the case after they were clearly wrong. Richard SR did not abuse his kids or kill his wife. Nor did Richard Jr. have anything to do with his mothers murder...Nor did Richard Sr ever do anything but love all three of his children.It was mentioned to me in a hall way that it was odd for a son to curl up with his Mom or Dad who was clearly scared to death of a perp who did indeed rape his brother. How dare you make such a disgusting allegation. good thing he was with his Dad or it would have been his last day 1-24-1988 !!!!!