Who impersonated Vitte Jr.

Phone call placed to Sandusky County Prosecutor Tom Stierwalt wasn't trooper
Register
Jan 26, 2014

Attorney Dean Henry said he will ask for an investigation to determine who called Sandusky County Prosecutor Tom Stierwalt pretending to be Henry's client, trooper Ricky Vitte Jr.

Click here to listen to the call (includes objectionable language)

Vitte was being investigated for allegedly watching porn and masturbating with a pre-teen boy. Henry called the allegations false and said his clent is innocent, but Stierwalt said Jan. 17 he declined to seek charges mainly because he didn't think he could get a conviction. Vitte could argue an affirmative defense contending he was teaching the boy to masturbate, Stierwalt said.

The investigation was closed Jan. 10, suggesting the time that's elapsed since the incidents took place — about five years ago — and the lack of any physical evidence were the reasons Stierwalt's office declined to pursue a charge.

Stierwalt hasn't confirmed it's him in the recording taking the call, which appears to have been placed to Stierwalt on Jan. 22, but Henry said Stierwalt confirmed it to him.

“He told me,” Henry said, which is the protocol if a criminal suspect who has an attorney contacts a prosecutor or other court official.

Henry subsequently determined it wasn't Vitte who placed the call to Stierwalt, but someone who knows the trooper.

“Theres no question in my mind that the individual that called Tom Stierwalt's office and pretended to be my client knows who my client is,” Henry said. “This is not just some stranger that just called and said 'Hey I'm going to try to pull this off.'”

Henry said he spoke with Stierwalt prior to the decision not to seek an indictment, but notations of that conference, or any notes of conversations with Henry, weren't included with documents released by Stierwalt previously in response to a public records request from the Register.  

Stierwalt has declined to reply to written questions or respond to followup telephone messages left for him from the Register. 

 "I'm not sure what we can do, except ignore it," the person who appears to be Stierwalt tells the caller he thinks is Vitte Jr., after the caller asks for advice how to respond to the attention that's been drawn to the investigation. 

Comments

mikeylikesit

I thought it was centauri. his comments kinda disappeared for a day or two. had me worried.

DickTracey

Yes Mikey, Cent has been very busy, having a mental break down. He confessed Saturday night that he was Elsebeth Baumgartners number 1 fan. (see comment section of the Homosexuality story)

He also told us he is a target of assassination, has threats against himself and his family, been falsely arrested, he is in a war with the CIA and the FBI, and last but not least, he is going to expose big PHARMA!

That's a lot for a little man that only knows how to cut and paste links and pretend to be a political activist.

We also learned he is afraid to hang around gay guys because he doesn't want his friends to think HE is gay.

But hey, it was Saturday night, so maybe it was just the Jack Daniels talkin.

Elsebeth says it was just hyperbole.

DGMutley

DickTracey,

Don't discount Centauri. If anyone on these threads is knowledgeable on the subject on hand it's Centauri. His links are spot on if you care to become enlightened.

As far as Elsebeth Baumgartner goes there is no question as to her intellect. She's a genius. If you haven't picked that up, where have you been?

SamAdams

Elsebeth Baumgartner isn't stupid, and I don't recall hearing anybody on these pages ever suggest that she is. I'd also point out, however, that IQ and/or having college degrees doesn't immunize anybody against "crazy!"

You had better believe that I sympathize and empathize with ANYbody who tries to expose government wrongdoing and do something about it, but threats and conspiracy theories seem just a tad counterproductive to me (along with, of course, the "crazy" part of it all).

Babo

So what are the statements she made that are "threats"? Further where is the medical evidence ( a doctor's finding) that she is crazy?

Her story has generated literally thousands of pages of documents on line (many of which have been since removed) but nowhere can one find the contents of her statements. Why?

So what are the statements and what specifically are the nature of conspiracy allegations?

DickTracey

DG, I'll tell you where I have been, NOT in prison!

The Order of the State Board of Pharmacy, finds Elsebeth Csizmadia-Baumgartner to be impaired mentally to such a degree as to render her unfit to practice pharmacy, to wit: the Supreme Court of Ohio has stated: "we share the concern that respondent, who is apparently also a licensed pharmacist and has no history of professional disciplinary sanctions, may suffer from some mental illness or other disability that is compromising her professional judgment and contributing to the misconduct . . ." Disciplinary Counsel v. Baumgartner (2003), 100 Ohio St. 3d - 41.

Ten counts of intimidation on a Judge, WHILE you are on probation, does not a genius make.

Truth2u

http://www.judiciaryreport.com/c...

This seems to contradict in many points the judgement of the Disciplinary Counsel.

Julie R.

@DickTracey: So what Homosexuality story was that on that you are referring to?

As for Elsebeth Baumgartner --- I don't know her .... never even knew that much about her until I started reading the SR comments right about the time Kim Nuesse was fired ..... don't know if all the allegations she made were the truth, either .... that is, with the exception of corrupt ERIE COUNTY. I know for a FACT that she sure was right on target there .... and if she was right on target there, what does that tell you about the rest of her allegations?

Babo

Dick is trying to discredit posters and drive hit counts on the story "Homosexuality not learned or unlearned, it simply is" by trying to link the story to EB.

In comments there, DT made false allegations that this poster (Babo) is EB; that Babo is impersonating a lawyer; and that EB is subject to probation conditions that prevent her from making statements on the internet.

Centauri posted the public record (Judicial release entry) from Cuyahoga County that proves DT lied about EB's probation conditions and this poster has publicly denied being EB and denied being a lawyer. DT now also has an ax to grind with Centauri, so the usual allegations to discredit come forth.

I think DT hopes that the usual flame wars break out when ever EB is mentioned to drive the hit counts on stories about homosexuality and distract from the larger much more important story that there is a pattern of LE misconduct and cover up of public corruption in this area.

Also, DT may be a person who has a lot to lose if EB is publicly vindicated. He's been very hateful in his attacks on her and her family, indicating it's very personal.

DickTracey

You can call me Dick, I wear the name proudly. But do not ever call me a liar!

Your buddy Centauri made the false statement about your probation!

Centauri
SAT, 01/25/2014 - 3:27PM
DT, I believe that is was you who posted comments that EB was released last year from prison. I understand that EB is prohibited from posting comments on any newspaper forum.

BOOM!

Babo

Dick Tracey 1/25/2014 1:00PM
(replying to Babo claiming Babo is EB)

"Does your probation even allow you to be back on the internet, pretending to be a lawyer?"

Centauri's post is at 3:27PM the same day in reply to your post. He is relying on your earlier false statement (a lie posted in a question) because you had posted a specific detail of EB's release in the past.

Bet you lie about a lot of little things too..like your name

BOO-YA!!!

SamAdams

Let me get this straight: Dick Tracey asks if Elsebeth Baumgartner's probation includes some full or partial prohibition of the Internet. Centauri answers that he believes there IS such a condition. And Dick is the liar? Hmmm. Confused again, are we, Babo?

DickTracey

Dean Henry loves this little side show. He thinks it takes the attention of his client, that likes to spank little boys bare butts, abuse and degrade women and masturbate with a twelve year old while showing him porn.

No, Dean we commend the caller and we think your client is a pedophile.

Jakes Dad

Tom, I would use what Dean Henery told Wukie to say. "This is no more than "Sex Education" in this region of the country." I have been told there are many different camps on how this situation can be viewed by Sandusky County Officials. This has seemed to work for other cases.

DGMutley

Dean Henry wants to keep this going as long as possible--he's gonna own Ricky Vitte Jr and probably a good chunk of Sr before this is all over.

From the Grave

Several people involved in this are going straight to HELL.

Truth2u

I agree 100% with you, Grave, and the sooner the better society will be, ridding us of the poisonous venom political and government power gives them.

BabyMomma

It was Weird Al Yankovich

Babo

So who does Dean Henry want to investigate the matter? Certainly not SC LE as they are not qualified and have conflicts of interest. Similarly, the AG's office has conflicts as it filed a grievance on Henry with the Supreme Court and this case confirms Henry never should have been appointed a special prosecutor in the Limberios case.

That leaves the FBI. Please Dean call the FBI and let everyone know it so we can contact the same agent about you!

Ctwhalers

Well said Babo

Turduckenbreath

I've read with interest the calls on this board for criminal prosecution of Vitte regarding the activities with the boy and the movie.

There seem to be plenty of people on here who claim knowledge of Ohio's criminal statutes, so this should be an easy one for them.

My question: What section(s) of the Ohio Revised Code should Vitte be charged with violating?

Turduckenbreath
Babo

So are you suggesting he has an affirmative defense in that he is a parent guardian teacher etc? If that's the case he should be charged with Child endangering. http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2919.22

Also there's that small problem of fleeing the police at excessive speed. http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2921.331.

Turduckenbreath

Break it down for me. What part of the child endangering statute could he be convicted of?

justice_forall2014

Would appear as though you are reaching for a public comments section to either one come up with charges (which would be Tom's job) or come up with a defense (which is Dean's job). Either way would it not make more sense to have a grand jury hear the case and determine the outcome? There are multiple charges that are being overlooked. Would you want Ricky Vitte Jr. watching a movie with your children or married to your daughter (that is of course if you have children).

Babo

Why don't you state what you believe to be his basis for the affirmative defense to a charge of disseminating or production of material harmful to a juvenile first?

I made it easy for you. Take us through the affirmative defenses for each crime and explain how Vitte meets the criteria for an affirmative defense.

(B) The following are affirmative defenses to a charge under this section that involves material or a performance that is harmful to juveniles but not obscene:

(1) The defendant is the parent, guardian, or spouse of the juvenile involved.

Is Vitte a parent, guardian or spouse of the 12 year old boy? No?

(2) The juvenile involved, at the time of the conduct in question, was accompanied by the juvenile's parent or guardian who, with knowledge of its character, consented to the material or performance being furnished or presented to the juvenile.

Was the parent, or guardian present and gave permission? No?

(3) The juvenile exhibited to the defendant or to the defendant's agent or employee a draft card, driver's license, birth record, marriage license, or other official or apparently official document purporting to show that the juvenile was eighteen years of age or over or married, and the person to whom that document was exhibited did not otherwise have reasonable cause to believe that the juvenile was under the age of eighteen and unmarried.

Did the juvenile try to trick Vitte into believing he was 18 years old? No?

(C)

(1) It is an affirmative defense to a charge under this section, involving material or a performance that is obscene or harmful to juveniles, that the material or performance was furnished or presented for a bona fide medical, scientific, educational, governmental, judicial, or other proper purpose, by a physician, psychologist, sociologist, scientist, teacher, librarian, clergyman, prosecutor, judge, or other proper person.

(2) Except as provided in division (B)(3) of this section, mistake of age is not a defense to a charge under this section.

Is Vitte, part of a bona fide medical, scientific, educational, governmental, judicial or other proper study of teaching 12 year old boys how to masturbate by exposing their adult male genitalia to the juvenile while watching pornography? Yes or No?

If yes, is it a grant funded peer reviewed study and do you get off by reading these comments?

Turduckenbreath

Well, let's start off with the material that was presented to the kid. Do you know what it was? Do you have it? Can you prove it is obscene or harmful to juveniles? What is your evidence going to be?

Babo

LOL, nice try Dean-Rick. Any kind of pornography is deemed obscene if provided to a juvenile that's why they are not allowed to purchase it or view it under federal and state law. And of course masturbating in front of a juvenile is also obscene.

Don't believe me? Try it some time in front of a pre-teen. In fact just try whipping it out in public in front of a pre teen.

So we are back to the Affirmative Defenses what are you raising as your affirmative defense?

And if you don't think these acts are obscene they are at a minimum harmful as any psychologist will tell you.

Turduckenbreath

So admit it, pal. You don't know what the provable demonstrable facts are. I'm glad you're just an anonymous loudmouth on a video screen instead of someone with public responsibility.

justice_forall2014

So, is he absolutely and categorically denying all allegations or does he have an affirmative defense? I hope I am not the only one who has caught on to this. Sure hope someone with public responsibility can do something to help this child and other children never have to experience this type of situation.

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