St. Mary band director fired for gay wedding plans

(UPDATED WITH FULL STORY)
Alissa Widman Neese
Jan 11, 2014

 

Sandusky Central Catholic School forced its band and choir director to resign this week, shortly after officials learned he and his boyfriend recently became engaged to be married.
 
Brian Panetta, who is in his fifth year of employment, initially received a letter of termination Jan. 3, which stated he was fired for violating the moral and religious teachings of the Catholic Church.

This letter came just hours after Panetta approached the school’s president about his engagement, to discuss if an end-of-the-year resignation would help avoid any conflicts concerning his gay relationship, he said.

On Thursday, however, Panetta met with school administrators, a priest and representatives from the Catholic Diocese of Toledo, who offered more information and agreed he could resign instead of having a termination on his record, he said.    

“I’m satisfied with their explanation, and right now I’m just praying for understanding and strength,” Panetta said. “It’s hard for me to walk away, but it’s what’s best for me personally, and I hope my students will understand that.”

Panetta and his fiancé, Nathan David, started dating while attending the University of Dayton five years ago. They plan to wed in July 2015.

Their relationship wasn’t a secret to the Sandusky Central Catholic School community, as David often attended school events and met several students and their families, Panetta said.

“This community has been like a family to me, and I’ve always had nothing but support,” Panetta said. “I never had to hide.”

After David popped the question on Christmas Day, however, Panetta said he knew things could get complicated.

All Sandusky Central Catholic School employees must sign a contract stating they will live a lifestyle according to the Catholic faith, he said.

“I knew if we ever wanted to get married, it would limit my time teaching at the school I love,” Panetta said. “When I met with the diocese, they basically told me my engagement is a public statement of my support for equality for gay marriage, which the Catholic Church does not support.”

Panetta identifies as Catholic and attended Catholic school for grades K-12. He said working at Sandusky Central Catholic School was an ideal first job.

In his four and a half years working there, Panetta grew the school’s band from 18 to about 50 members, and also produced similar numbers for its choir. He oversaw band for grades 5-12 and choir for grades 7-12.

Panetta said he still doesn’t feel his work is done, but he understands why he is no longer permitted to work at the school. After Thursday’s resignation agreement, he said he feels he is stepping down with the school’s support.

He distributed a letter to the school community Friday that announced his resignation and his engagement to David, in which he called himself a “proud and gay Catholic”

“The hardest part was not getting to speak to (my students) about it, so I’m thankful for that opportunity,” Panetta said. “Everyone knows about my lifestyle, and I always thought the best way to handle this was to be upfront, honest and proactive. I just wanted to provide clarity about this situation”

It’s unknown who will take over Panetta’s job, as students resumed classes Thursday after winter break extended three extra days because of bad weather.

After the Register left a message for Sandusky Central Catholic School president Melody Curtis on Wednesday, she responded within minutes with an emailed statement.

“Mr. Panetta is no longer employed at Sandusky Central Catholic School,” the statement said. “We do not discuss personnel situations with the media.”

Two days later, however, she emailed a revised statement, which she also distributed to the school community.

“It is with great sadness that we extend to you that Mr. Brian Panetta has resigned his position today as director and coordinator of music at Sandusky Central Catholic School,” it said. “Although parting ways is never easy, especially in the midst of a school year, we would like to thank Mr. Panetta for his devotion and service to the school, and the gifts and talents he brought to the music program.”

The statement also provided a link to Panetta’s letter, both of which will be available on the Register’s website.

The school hired Curtis as president this past summer after adopting the president-principal administrative model for the first time. She was previously executive director of Monroe Catholic Elementary Schools in Monroe, Mich., and has almost 15 years of experience in Catholic education.

Sally Oberski, director of communications for the Catholic Diocese of Toledo, which oversees Catholic schools in Northwest Ohio, said she couldn’t offer any additional comments about the situation when contacted Thursday.

A Catholic school’s decisions involving personnel are “local decisions,” and the diocese’s role is simply to be available for consultation if the school desires it, Oberski said.

“The school has a governing board, a president and a principal, and it’s a local decision,” Oberski said. “There’s nothing more I can tell you than what the local leadership has told you.”

Because Sandusky Central Catholic School is not funded by taxpayer dollars, it is not required to release personnel files or other documents to the Register.

Click here to read letter from school's director

Click here to read letter from Panetta to students

Click here to visit Brian Panetta's website

Comments

Babo

Sure, but only if one wants to appear desparate and ignorant.

Babo

You are unwilling to accept that other people have a right to disagree with you. In other words you have no respect for the rights of other people who differ from you. Second, you have no objective standard moral code. If something benefits you it's good regardless of whether it harms others, and if something doesn't go your way it is bad regardless of whether the community as a whole benefits.

Panther Student

I do not believe that attacking the way my parents and I live in our faith is the right way to go about things such as this, no human being is perfect - so I will respectfully decline from any further conversation with you.

stayfit

The Bible is a collaboration of books, written by man and inspired by God (Any Theology class will teach this). If the Bible were inspired by God, could man have not twisted it to serve self interests? Catholics slaughtered millions of Christians in the dark ages. The Bible was used to justify slavery, limit the intellect and ability of women, and to justify murder among other notables in the dirty past.

People manipulate the Bible to serve self interests, in this case the discrimination of a homosexual. There are many verses in the Bible that promote love, and others that promote death and injustice. To practice worship and teach faith is one thing. To discriminate is another. It should be illegal to have such wording in a contract, that it could be legal to fire someone for sexual orientation.

A few quotes:

The Bible may, indeed does, contain a warrant for trafficking in humans, for ethnic cleansing, for slavery, for bride-price, and for indiscriminate massacre, but we are not bound by any of it because it was put together by crude, uncultured human mammals (Christopher Hitchens).

Religion is man-made. Even the men who made it cannot agree on what their prophets or redeemers or gurus actually said or did (Christopher Hitchens).

Name me an ethical statement made or an action performed by a believer that could not have been made or performed by a non-believer (Christopher Hitchens).

Babo

Christopher Hitchens is dead.

SamAdams

So is everybody credited with writing parts and pieces of the Bible. Your point...?

Babo

The Word lives.

stayfit

The Word is manipulated by man to serve self-seeking interests of society. It was used to justify slavery and the stoning to death of children. There is more incest in the Old Testament of the Bible than at puppy mills. There is the suppression of women and people of different ethnicity than the "chosen."

The Bible has many inspiring stories and uplifting verses, but it even says the Earth is flat. There is no way that the Bible should be used as a tool to discriminate protected classes of people from employment in a country that should have separation of church and state. St. Mary Central Catholic should be ashamed to call themselves a place of love, because their veins wreak of hypocrisy, hatred and discrimination.

OSUBuckeye59

Purely from a legal standpoint, even though the contract Brian signed with the school system most likely did not specifically state he could be fired for being a homosexual or fired for being divorced w/o an annulment or fired for being married to a divorcee who did not have an annulment, etc., I would be very much surprised if Brian didn't know his homosexuality was not considered in keeping with the moral teachings and values of the Catholic Church. As such, I would believe Brian knew the risks but chose to continue with his employment until the time came when a public announcement such as his engagement to his long-time same-sex partner would trigger SMCC to take action. But again, from a legal standpoint, this does warrant further questions:

1. Did any SMCC administration official, including Mrs. Curtis, know of Brian's same-sex relationship prior to the public engagement announcement? If yes, then any/all administration officials should immediately tender their resignation since their knowledge of Brian's personal relationship w/o alerting Diocese officials would mean they were hiding the truth and thus not following the moral teachings and values of the Catholic church.
2. Are there any current administration officials or teachers divorced w/o an annulment, or any current administration officials or teachers married to a person who is previously divorced w/o an annulment? And does any SMCC administration official know of other officials or teacher's with these backgrounds? If yes, same actions should be taken as just mentioned in terms of immediate resignations/firings.
3. Is any current teacher or school administration official in a marriage that was performed by a JOP but not in a religious setting? If yes, does this violate the moral teachings and values of the Catholic church? For that matter, does the Catholic church accept marriages in the Muslim or Hindu or Jewish or Church of Elvis faiths? What exactly does the Catholic church accept as marriage that is in keeping with the moral teachings and values of the Catholic church?

John Harville

3. To be 'acceptable' the marriage must be performed by an ordained priest IN a Roman Catholic Church (not in the garden, not in a grotto at a retreat house, not on a bridge in the park, not by the mayor.
An ordained priest in a Roman Catholic church after six months of preparation and counseling.
Exceptions:
Heterosexual couples married BEFORE they become Catholic have their marriages automatically accepted (even if either/both has been surgically sterilized) - and bound by all the 'laws' of the Church.
Catholics married outside the Church may have a public ceremony by a priest in a Roman Catholic Church to recognize the 'renegade' marriage - usually so offspring won't be bastardized in the eyes of the church.
Muslim, etc. marriages only can be 'recognized' for Catholic purposes if the marriage partners join the Church and renounce other faiths.
Catholic Church does not recognize second marriages by divorced members who have not completed the paperwork and paid the large fees to have the Church 'annul' the first marriage and basically state it never happened (which means the children of that 'marriage' were born out of wedlock. Divorced members who remarry are considered adulterers and not allowed to partake of sacraments. (Of course they can go to any other Catholic Church and take the sacraments cuz there's no 'registry')
No Catholic Church or priest I've ever experienced (10 churches, 20 priests, and two years in lay ministry preparation) EVER asked if members/faculty/employees masturbate, 'interrupt', engage in 'alternative' marital intercourse - or take birth control.
Answer some of your questions?

Big Momma

Congratulations to Mr. Panetta on your engagement. Your letter speaks volumes and you will no doubt find a better job soon! I stand with you in marriage equality!

Bottom Line

I wish him luck as well... However, don't teach at a Catholic school with a morals clause in your contract that you KNOW gives them grounds for termination. That simple.

John Harville

I call BULLSHIP. For decades teachers in private and public schools were terminated/resigned upon marriage - as part of contract.
50 years ago when I was in school, pregnant teachers had to go on leave as soon as the pregnancy was "apparent". And pregnant female students had to leave school - but the fathers could continue toward diplomas.
Reason: The sight of a pregnant woman might 'corrupt' the rest of us and give us unneeded knowledge (like we didn't know whence come babies?)

WaterStreetCooncat

I wonder if there were a gay married couple with kids & they wanted their kids to go to SMCC if the church would turn down their tuition money? I bet not!

sugar

J Hartmann, you talk too much and you're a pathetic placater, do you ever take a stand or do you always bend to whichever way the wind blows? If you're not you would be the perfect politician.

J. Hartman

Sugar, if you are trying to bait me, it has worked slightly, because I would love to educate you. If you had any idea of what I do to help make the world a better place, the community a better place, and this city a better place, you just might support my efforts. I won't try to attack you for not coming forth with who you actually are, meaning your real name, but I would encourage you to contact me as I can then explain. If my memory serves me right, I don't recall anyone by the name of sugar coming to any of the block watch meetings, nor do I recall anyone by the name of sugar attending the drug summit in October, nor do I recall anyone by the name of sugar on the last ballet, nor do I recall anyone by the name of sugar helping with any community clean ups, and I most certainly recall anyone by the name of sugar doing a damn thing except maybe in a porno back in the college days. If I am wrong, please correct me with an actual name? There are several things coming down the line in regards to making the community better. Operation: Street Smart will be at 4 of the local schools in the 2nd quarter of 2014. Once the weather gets nice again, SCPC will continue to partner up with the Conestoga program in efforts to improve the city. Sheriff Sigsworth, Chief Ricci, and Chief Orzech all support our efforts and great things are to come. Also, we will be bringing at least one NFL Play 60 camp to the area and possibly a second. So, if your intentions were to dog me, try again! I am also not trying to go on a counter attack as I welcome constructive criticism. However, if you want to play with the boys, do so by showing some effort on your end. I actually encourage you to call me 330-221-3090. Not because I wish to fight or argue with you, but maybe you have a thought or insight that the rest of us may have neglected or over looked? Seriously, I have absolutely no problem with you calling me out, or at least you are trying too, but my philosophy tells me these petty arguments get us no where! Man to man or man to woman I have no clue because you go by the handle name sugar? Not wanting to get involved in a debate with someone who hides behind a screen name, but I do want to get involved with anyone who wants to make our community better! We may not agree, but that's why we have open communications! You might possibly hate me and everything I say and likewise I could feel the same. What I do know and what I fully understand is, we have to work together if we agree or not. I've put in the actions, HAVE YOU? The ball is in your court sugar! S.M.I.L.E.

sugar

You're another phony, baloney, name dropping, aren't I wonderful arrogant man. This city id full of them, what a laugh. As our community bleeds jobs and decent people you're out there placating everyone. Grab you pom poms here comes J Hartman, go team go! LMAO. Since you do not know me you're tirade of my supposed non contribution id laughable at best. Keep blowing your horn, it's kinda like the guy that fiddled.

huronguy

before you know it monkeys and dogs will have the right to marry too. we have to obviously draw the line here somewhere or the liberals will never stop with their carnage.
http://nypost.com/2013/12/03/ani...

Stop It

I'm all for monkeys marrying dogs...man's best friend with hands! What's not to like?

Babo

ROTFLMAO. However I do foresee issues if the dog part drools.

brainerd_man

Give it a rest, you simpleton.

starryeyes83

A monkeydog who picks up his own logs.

Hmmm ... Very Interesting. Save humans a lot of work. LOL.

sugar

Our children are losing a friend, a fabulous teacher, who loved them and gave them a love of music.

J. Hartman

Sugar, are you freaking serious? You have the balls to attempt to call me out from the shadows and the very thing I was defending you now support a few comments later and preach? Look man/woman, if you are going to call out and bitch, throw your name in the ring and be a difference! Lash back at me as a defense mechanism is fine! Pick my past apart is fine as well and I will even give you some things you can't find that will blow your little gold fish mind! (however, remember 33) I have tough skin and whether you hurl another grenade at me or not is your choice! If you want to call out, pull up your freaking skirt and do something that is positive! In the meantime, I do support your right to express yourself through free speech. On the other hand again, if you call me out, present yourself and stop hiding behind a tree like the Great Gazo! Am I pissed? You have no idea the bullcrap myself and many, many others put up with and have overcome to make your world a better place and you lack the understanding that people actually are working for your future? So, if I'm that pathetic as you mentioned, I can live with that because I forgive and despite your obvious lack of knowledge of how the world REALLY exists, I will pray for you and continue to do my best to make your life and your loved ones a better place today, tomorrow, and hopefully well into the future! Or maybe you believe our direction to a communist state is for the better? Again, I'm very easy to find, but I would choose your next words wisely as a fake screen name is only hidden to those who don't know where to look! Be a solution, not an instigator!

http://youtu.be/WRmBChQjZPs

sugar

Blah,blah,blah, you post (talk) too much.

sugar

Oh I just caught that I may be a commie....lol you sure are entertaining, and full of yourself.

sugar

And threats too! My, my! you can come and find me if you desire.

J. Hartman

Sugar, sometimes when we get caught in the moment we may type or say some things we may later wish to retract or wish we remained silent. In this situation I wish neither. However, I would like to touch on a few things as I do believe you may not understand or this is a form of enjoyment for you once you do happen to dig underneath ones skin? First, I do believe dialogue is a positive whether we agree or not. You are correct in the fact I have no clue who you are, but I also fully respect your opinion and your right to remain anonymous. Come and find you as you stated? Obviously, since I have no idea who you are, that's something I can't do. In terms of threatening you? I'm not really sure why you came to that conclusion, but I for one can't fight anyone and even if I could I would not. As far as you also believing I called you a communist? I guess I do see why you would take it that way, but I was actually speaking in general about how things are shaping up around us and the general direction of the whole. I merely need to point to cold war Russia as just one example or pre-WWII and Germany. I will end with my usual longer than needed dialogue. Again, I have no clue who you are, but you saying I have arrogance(trust me I have nothing to be arrogant about), basically calling me a fake, a cheerleader, and a name dropper. Some of that may be true, but I am not perfect nor do I wish to be. What I do wish to be is someone who takes a chance, someone who speaks up for the right thing even though it might not be the popular choice. If that involves pom poms and a "Lets Go Team" chant as you stated, so be it. In the long run, I would like to be a person who made a difference in a positive direction on any level even if you or someone else disagrees. Not trying to be anyone's best friend or think I spark fear in anyone's eyes. Most of all, I ask to be respected not through demanding it, but through commanding it by my actions. You also mentioned it was laughable in regards to one of my statements because you do so much in the community. I thank you if that is a true statement and we have possibly worked side by side maybe on a project. Whether we did or didn't isn't an issue, but if you are willing to help in any manner(which I do believe you contribute and I don't question that) I would love to collaborate on a project whether it be something that I'm in direct contact with or possibly the other way around and I help you on a project? I won't end with any smart comments looking to one up you, but I will end in saying we all have great ideas and think we have all have the answer to make the community a better place. As individuals do we have the right answer? Maybe, but I have come to learn one has to realize they are not the best at everything and there are certain things others might be better qualified to do. I have also come to learn the individual can not succeed without the support of the whole and I have also come to learn one must be willing to compromise and work as a whole in order to have success. Therefore, I am more than willing and welcome the opportunity to work with you even if we disagree as long as the same goal is there and can be achieved! Be safe and enjoy the rest of your week!

John Harville

Is this the same parish/diocese that 'excused' its priest for having a sexual relationship with a recent widow the priest was counseling?

Is this the same Church that passed along pedophile priests for decades?

Is the same Church with the Pope who said the Church should not condemn homosexuals?

John Harville

Is SMCC going to expel its LGBTQ students? (and don't tell me they don't have them)
Is SMCC going to expel its fornicating students/athletes?
And to think this Runaway Catholic was thinking of 'coming home'

SamAdams

John, it's a little off topic, but in direct response to your closing above:

You don't NEED a church to go "home." Your religious beliefs, and your relationship with your god, are as personal as it gets. You don't need validation, nor do you need some sort of a conduit to be heard. You don't need a schedule to pray, and you obviously don't need somebody to tell you what or how to think.

In fact, the ONLY thing the church can offer is companionship with like minds. And I'm pretty sure you can find that in a good variety of other settings in which you will, sooner or later, feel at "home."

Peace...

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thinkagain

What about the rights of the parents who pay tuition, to have their children educated in accordance with the mandates of the Catholic religion?

He’ll have no problem getting a job in the public school system, where indoctrinating confused younglings into the homosexual lifestyle is a liberal mandate.

Instead of following Jesus’s teaching on marriage in Matthew 19:4-5, he chose to defy Him.

Like all sin, the homosexual lifestyle is a choice made from free will. A deviation from Gods plan for His children.

brainerd_man

I've thought again (pardon the pun), and if God had this "plan," then God would not have created people with same-sex attraction in the first place.

Something to look forward to is that people with your beliefs are becoming fewer and fewer. And that's a good thing for humanity.

Kingsin

You're right- people of the Christian faith are becoming fewer- and the world is becoming worse for it. You can have your opinion concerning God's "plan"- but He isn't concerned with your opinion- nor anyone else's for that matter. He isn't wringing His hands together in anguish worrying that people don't like Him or agree with Him- it's quite the contrary. Jesus Himself said that He did not come to bring peace to the earth- but rather division between people (Luke 12:51). Separation between believer and unbeliever is a theological thread which winds it's way through both the Old and New Testament- God isn't saving everyone, though He offers that opportunity freely to all. What is occurring with this issue and so many others we face in our culture- is that God is sifting individuals into one camp or the other- saved and unsaved, lost and found, sheep or goats, good fish or bad fish, wheat or tares- and you as an individual are in one of those camps. So you and the others on this thread go ahead and throw your "highly educated arguments and opinions" at God as much as you will- you're only picking your side. As far as your statement that mankind would be better off without the influence of Christians upon the world- you may just get your wish if we are truly in the last days as I and many other Christians believe- and you're going to inherit hell on earth when that happens. The Bible speaks of the time in the last days when people would be calling evil things good, and good things evil- when they would no longer listen to Christian principles, and would openly mock God's people- well I'd say we're there- so hold on tight for what comes next.

Katelih-Trailer...

Your comment hit me like a ton of bricks..Thanks,I think.

Kingsin

Katelih, my response to some of the posters here was to show that God isn't by any means a patsy. He wishes for all to be saved- it's just that He knows the majority (and yes it is a majority)- will refuse His invitation. It speaks in Scripture of God throwing a large banquet- but yet those He invited refused to come to it- they basically stood Him up. The world is invited to this banquet- but yet they refuse to come. By your response it sounds to me that you at least have a heart that is willing to listen, and you may be a Christian already-I don't know that- so I will assume that you may not be sure. My advice is to go to a Church and talk to a pastor, or buy some Christian books, or speak to a Christian friend, and begin to read the Bible daily if you aren't already- and then ask God to put you onto the right path- the rest will all open up to you. This is basically how I became a Christian nearly 20 years ago- I went from understanding very little- to now teaching the Bible at my Church weekly. God has enriched my life, and He will do the same for all who will just ask... take care

brainerd_man

No, I don't think we are in our last days. The sun won't die for another few billion years. So besides your brand of "last-days" Christianity that I don't accept, I also believe in science.

Kingsin

"Immediately after the distress of those days "'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken..." Matt. 24:29

brainerd_man

Sounds like a solar eclipse and a lunar eclipse to me.

Babo

Or a Super-volcano eruption or nuclear winter, possible ways to end life on earth as we know it.

Kingsin

If you want my interpretation (and that's all it is)- it's a description of nuclear warfare. The stars cannot literally fall onto the earth, so what was Jesus speaking of? As you look throughout Scripture (Joel, Amos, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Daniel, the Apostle John and Peter, etc..) They all seemed to share a combined view of this occurrence. They spoke of a "Day which will burn as an oven", "Of blood and fire mingled with smoke", "Pillars of smoke", "A third of all trees burned up", "stars falling to the earth" (nuclear warheads?). In the book of Zechariah it speaks of a "plague" which will cause a persons eyes, tongue, and flesh to consume away from their bones- before their bones can even hit the ground!- I ask, what can do that? Even chemical agents no matter how nasty don't work that fast- it has to be IMO a description of nuclear holocaust. If you want all the verses I can list them for you.

Babo

I agree with you, though I did find a piece on 60 Minutes last week about Super Volcanos very interesting. The description by scientists of this type of event also resembles scripture reports of the end times. Also a large Meteor strike.

brainerd_man

I'm pretty sure that charlatan Harold Camping who predicted the Earth would end in 2011 just died. Do you have a prediction for the end date or are you keeping quiet about it? lol!

brainerd_man

I believe the parable of the sheep and the goats has to do with feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, clothing the naked, welcoming the stranger, caring for the sick, and visiting the imprisoned. Those are supposedly the direct words of Jesus for reaching heaven, no? If you can interpret anything in that parable relating to homosexuality, let me know.

Kingsin

And this is the reason my statement was kind of tough on you Mr. Brainerd- you simply don't understand the Bible, but yet you feel free to disparage it. The parable of the sheep and goats is called "the Judgment of the Nations"- and is one of five specific judgments spoken of in Scripture which I don't have the space to go into. This judgment occurs immediately upon Christ's return and determines which nations will be allowed to enter into His Theocratic Kingdom upon this earth- Christians pray it every time they say "The Lord's Prayer"- "Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth..." The predicating factor in this Judgment as to whether entrance will be allowed to a nation or people group- is how they treated the Jews. How God judges a nation in it's entirety- I leave to Him- But I can assure you there won't be a Nazi sympathizer, Russian Atheist, Gaza Terrorist, or PLO- Israel hating- faction member remaining when its all over. I implore you to study these issues much deeper on your own- I used to not believe- but the more you study the claims of the Bible and how exactly the world has shaped itself to its pages (think of the Jews here) the more I will boldly and unfearfully proclaim it.

sugar

Amazing, there are people who say they do understand. What I remember is love everyone and treat them as you would want to be treated. I also remember that NO ONE knows when the end will come, not even Jesus.

brainerd_man

It sounds like you have your own interpretation of this. What I understand this to be is exactly what Jesus said: feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, etc. Nothing more, nothing less. I am well enough versed in the Bible to know that the Bible is interpreted in different ways. BTW, what is your belief about Jesus' command to "Eat my body." and "Drink my blood." given at the Last Supper?

brainerd_man

The meaning behind the parable of the sheep and the goats is one reason that the Catholic Church has a strong social justice network, because the Church does take this command of Jesus literally. When I was a junior at St. Mary's Central Catholic, there was a class called Christian Service. Some of the students in the class chose to visit the veterans at the Ohio Veterans Home.

brainerd_man

And I certainly don't accept your interpretation that the "Judgment of the Nations" is based on how people treat only the Jews. It is how an individual treats **everyone** that he/she comes into contact with.

If you remember, Jesus wasn't too fond of self-righteous Jews. He "dressed them down" on quite a few occasions.

justsaying..

Lol gods people! What god? Whose god? Your god? So cain killed abel right? Who did seth and him get hitched to? Sounds like incest to me. Dont even get me started on the church scandels. I dont go out of my way to mock gods people, but its 2014. put that old book down for a minute and think for yourself.

sugar

I pay and I want Mr. Panetta there.

starryeyes83

There is no story here, he signed a contract to be employed at will, knew he was violating said contract, he expected to be fired if he announced/accepted proposal.

Any employer has the right to terminate if a contract is violated. Was this in the paper for publicity stunt or attention getter or what?

Why is this news?

Tsu Dho Nimh

Excellent point. This young man understands the teaching of the Catholic church and approached them. He doesn't seem to be taking issue with the school's decision.

brainerd_man

"Why is this news?" It is news because it involves a school in Sandusky and because gay rights have been in the news a lot lately.

Or have you just not been paying attention?

starryeyes83

Yep, I've paid attention. Fact is the gentleman broke the contract he WILLFULLY signed and expected to be fired.

Again, there is no news story here.

And woowee, look at all the hits for the site :)

DickTracey

Where is the news? A man got fired for getting engaged!!

Did you get fired for getting engaged ?

Do you know ANYONE that ever got fired when they got
engaged?

Did you get fired when you got divorced? Or married?

Why doesn't the Catholic church fire their pedophile priests as quickly as they fired this innocent man?

starryeyes83

Many people don't have formal engagements or weddings. Also I wasn't employed by a Catholic Church and required to sign a contract. He was. If you're that angry go take it up with the Church.

What's next? collections to help pay for their wedding?

Gardenman

I saw similar to this happen in a school system in NE Ohio few years ago. It was the school principal that was released from his job. The students supported him and they staged a walkout at the school. All the major news outlets were covering it and just a terrible PR for the school district.

The students returned the next day to school BUT the real twist was two graduating seniors ran in the fall for school board and they both won ousting two long time Board members who had voted to end the principal's contract. The principal was later rehired in the school district and the real twist.....the superintendent who had recommended the principal's non renewal was let go by the new school board at the end of the year.

Kingsin

That's alright- God's people have been getting bad PR since the Cross

brainerd_man

Spare me your victim mentality and start practicing the Golden Rule. You know, treat others as you would like to be treated. That rule is common to many religions.

Babo

If someone was able to run for school board in an election, the school was obviously a PUBLIC school, not a Catholic private school.

You are badly confused if you believe the Christian community considers this story to be bad "PR".

PagingSanity

Good thing they got rid of him, because we all know that every single one of the other faculty members there never broke any of the 10 commandments and we just can't have some homosexual messing that perfect track record up for them. As a matter of fact, I guarantee that they were all virgins until their life-long marriages began and that they have never even had so much as an impure thought, ever! This'll also teach their students a good lesson too, so hopefully the ~10% of them that are gay will know that they better stay in the closet where they belong and pray to be fixed.

SamAdams

Ouch! And well said.

Years ago, a good friend of mine who happens to be gay AND Catholic (at least he was still Catholic when I knew him), told me how he eventually reconciled his homosexuality with the condemnation of his faith. He told me that, if God created all of us, then God had created him, too. And he said if he prayed to be "fixed" or "changed," that would be an acknowledgement that God had somehow made errors when creating him. His belief in the perfection of his God gave him faith that he WASN'T a mistake, and that he was just as valuable to God as is any other man or woman.

Me? As far as I'm concerned, if you don't hurt anybody else, why is it any of my business who you sleep with? And the man I'm speaking of here was one of the kindest, most generous, and overwhelmingly decent human beings I've ever known. I hope he eventually found a church that would recognize he actually lived a far more Christian life than most! I sincerely wish the same for Mr. Panetta.

Contango

Re: "if you don't hurt anybody else, why is it any of my business who you sleep with?"

Our lesbian neighbors invited us over for dinner a couple weeks ago. We had a nice time.

I tend to repeat the old Seinfeld joke to my spouse:

As long as they don't try to recruit us for their 'team,' I'm OK with 'em. :)

PagingSanity

My dad once told me "I love gay men, the more of them there are, the less competition there is for me!" I always thought that was a great stance haha

PagingSanity

He sounds like he was a brilliant man, as well as being a Christian (:

stayfit

Well said PaginingSanity.

Contango

Reads like Mr. Panetta chose his sexuality over his religion and his employment.

He must now succumb to the consequences of his actions.

IMO, in a 'free society,' he has the right to his opinion and lifestyle and the Church has theirs.

In the meantime, he may want to be expedient and pick a new 'church home' and not wait for the RCC to change their positions any time soon.

From my understanding: In practice, the Episcopal Church is similar to Catholicism and is accepting of homosexual members.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis...

Ya see? When a deity is made in mankind's image much is possible.

stayfit

The church can teach that gay is evil to full extent of the first amendment (freedom of religion, speech, etc.)

The moment a homosexual is denied employment from an institution, regardless of what the institution preaches, the first amendment does not protect such discrimination.

BabyMomma

Wow. This is getting ridiculous. Didn't the article say he was aware his engagement would make things get complicated? He knew the ramifications of his actions, he still made that choice. He chose love over money, good for him. I don't think he has any right to sue anyone, he was willing to resign, what's the difference? At least this way he gets unemployment, if he had quit, he wouldn't have gotten DlCK! <--- pun intended, pretty funny :-)

BabyMomma

I hope that doesn't come across as being anti-gay, I have no issue with gay or lesbian. But there are places where it's excepted in this world, and places where it isn't. Catholic Church is one where it isn't, he knew that his whole life. I wish him the best, there are plenty of public schools out there

TheScientist

I keep seeing people (a person?) saying: "If being gay is natural and not a choice, then neither is being a pedophile, rapist, or murderer." How ridiculous. Being gay, and acting on that sexual attraction doesn't HARM anyone else, as long as the people involved are consenting adults. Being a pedophile, a rapist, or a murderer may be NATURAL to that person, but it HURTS the others involved badly. Being gay is not a crime and doesn't hurt anyone else. I cannot even imagine the internal conflict that practicing gay Catholics experience.

Personally, I'm a practicing Catholic who is pro gay-rights (and an SMCC alum). It is my belief that they are born that way, and God doesn't make mistakes. There are a LOT of amazing and "out" gay and lesbian people who graduated from SMCC. Alas, this doesn't change the fact that Mr. Panetta broke a contract (no matter how much we may disagree with that viewpoint). And as I understand, he took the opportunity to resign. The school doesn't hate him, he knew the consequences, and the administration cannot make exceptions. It's a sad situation for those involved, and saddest for the students who've lost a beloved teacher.

(There have been similar actions in parochial Ohio schools in Columbus with a lesbian teacher, and in Cincinnati, with an unmarried teacher who had a baby. The employers in all of those cases were protected by the wording of the contract, and justified in their firings).

alumni08

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John Harville

THE CHURCH burned people at the stake for - SIN OF SINS - reading the BIBLE!!!!!

Maybe now we know why.

MarbleheadNative

John, Remember it's 2014. I sure am curious to know why this bothers you so much.
Kudos to the newly engaged!

THEHARDTRUTH

Way to go St. Mary's, there is no other choice but to terminate. What are we teaching the kids? If you dont like a rule or agreement then just disregard them. I am excited to get a director who will keep their personal life seperate from work. I am not a alumni, but will start donating this year.

cody6202000

Then you'd probably hope never to see any teacher/instructor/board member with their spouse/partner at any school functions/sports events/awards ceremonies, or is that one of those things that applies to we LGBT, but not to hetero persons?

JohnDorian12

I fully support SMCC, you can't have an employee going against what your school is trying to teach....

Dcfred20036

When I called the school last Wednesday to protest this I was told that the diocese forced them to to this and that everyone, including administrators, was upset over this. Since, I have learned that the diocese had nothing to do with this, and it was a local desicion. With this kind of leadership the school will shrink its way to extinction.

sugar

Dorian and Hard Truth, are you joking? Your homophobia is showing. I say lets fire everyone for their acts against Church doctrine and throw out all the students who sin too. You'll be donating to the empty building. I believe this is SMCC's last mistake, there are very few left anymore that can support the bigotry and the "if your daddy can write a big check" mentality that exists there. Have you not been reading the comments? And most of you have no access to the FB I do that show you are in the minority.

sugar

Matt Westerhold, Alyssa Widman, has the board made a comment? Where are they??? Have you attempted to reach them? They have dome culpability here!

mikesee

Hope he went to church today to confess his sins!

sugar

Kinda water under the bridge now isn't it Bucks? An injustice has been done. Again, in their mission statement they profess to aid social justice. Hypocritical at best.

sugar

mikesee did you?

mikesee

Every Sunday.

acjp

I have never read so many nasty and unkind remarks, and I suppose you all call yourself Christian. Did any of you see or read Brian Panetta letter?

starryeyes83

Personally , I do not call myself Christian. Want to see where the worst hypocrites are? Open the door to any church.

That said, this is about a contract Mr. Panetta signed at will. He can't have it both ways. Unless this was done purely for the exposure (no pun intended) , which I suspect it was.

SGunther77

Here's the thing: this is a free country, which has always been a founding principle of the United States. No one has to like the stance the Catholic church takes on same-sex marriage; it simply is what it is. If one is a Catholic and can't reconcile that stance, then that person should reconsider an affiliation with that particular church. Though, truly, I think this "problem" can be alleviated much more effectively based on our country's constitution: We have--or are supposed to have--separation of church and state, yes? So, no more religion-based schools that give students the rights to the same graduation priviledges as secular students. Don't get me wrong--I'm not saying abolish religion based education--but, perhaps, those classes could simply be an off-shoot of the regular services of each individual church and not a school onto themselves. Moreover, if people are having trouble with the semantics of the word "marriage," because it's brought up in their religious book, then I do believe that those people and their religions should have the rights to their word. So how about this: all "partnership unions" (maybe we could call them that instead of marriage) are subject to purchasing a license and being presided over by a proper official, and, of course, subject to the penalties the IRS assigns one for being "married." These couples would get to enjoy all the same rights under government law as all current "married" people, but they wouldn't use the word "married" unless their particular church sanctioned it. That, then, would be up to each individual church--whether to sanction any couple as "married." This then, separates church from state. I mean, c'mon, it just makes sense. I am "strait," "married," but not at all religious, so how am I "married" more than a same-sex religious couple who can't be legally married in this state? Seems to me it's a game of legal/government semantics that we don't need to play. All legal "partnership unions" should be thus, and if those couples would like to add a "married" badge to that through their particular religion then so be it. Is that so difficult?

cody6202000

The problem with that (and, believe me, I was 100% in your corner for the longest time, up until probably the last 12-18 months) is that it then becomes another semantics game where people have to then sorta explain exactly what the terms mean. It's why the whole idea of civil unions never really got off the ground: a number of people in positions of authority didn't understand that CUs and marriages were trying to "be" the same, but those in CUs or domestic partnerships were getting shafted in times of emergency.

(Or, also, simply when discussing things with friends and neighbors, some people were having trouble making the link between the two: that's why the renewed push was for the entire equality concept, since we, as a culture sort of have an "idealized" concept of marriage, and a more "sterile" idea of CUs and DPs.)

sugar

The issue is consistency, if you're going to fire someone for sins, be sure to not discriminate on the sin. Second, as parents we are the school, we are the Church and we do feel this is an injustice, we want it fixed, our children want and need his leadership and love.

Dcfred20036

Open letter to Mr Kustec, if you are still at Perkins: please help Mr Panetta find a Job in your music program. I remember the glorious days of band when you led the Panther band and I sensed in Brian that same energy, passion for music and leadership. St Mary's loss can be your gain. Brian is special, don't pass on this opportunity. Fred, class '82.

Georgia on my mind

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sugar

I was told by a Priest this past fall, who is no longer there, that they no longer have any say in what goes on there. Me. Curtis was recommended by Father Steinbauer for the position. Quite a pickle.

Georgia on my mind

I find it quite unsettling that my prior comments have been removed. Unlike other comments, names were never mentioned. Yes, positions were.
For anyone commenting, please consider holding these people accountable for this embarrasing mess. Less than an hour ago, my wife received a phone call of what had taken place after school today. Thank you, Mrs. Curtis. Continue to make us proud to have you as Sandusky Central Catholic School's president. As of today, any financial support from our family has come to an end.

sugar

Georgia, you know it was the lawyers who sit on the board that probably did this. I think SMCC will rue the day they did this.

justmy2centsoh

Was the board involved in this? Who is on the current board? Perhaps a comment from the board would be appropriate?! Will terminations/resignations be forthcoming for other staff who aren't following the code of conduct? Not wishing that on anyone but the school has put this into motion and now have an obligation to be consistent and effective in following the employment contract otherwise would this be selective discrimination?

sugar

My question too.

WaterStreetCooncat

If homosexuality is wrong, why did God, (who is perfect) create it? And for those who say "It's a personal choice", isn't it God who created that person's personal choice?

SMCC_Panther

God didn't create homosexuality... It is a personal choice, yes God is perfect, he did create us. But he gave us free will. Indicating that it is your choice. God simply created us, he doesn't create our personal choices.

TheScientist

Is it your choice to be "straight?" Is that a choice you make? To only be attracted to members of the opposite sex?

God DID create free will. Every person, gay or straight, has the choice to ACT upon their sexual attractions.

Kingsin

What is being missed here is the Sin equation. It is through the fallen and sinful nature of man which is bent in rebellion against God that all sinful activities manifest themselves. Sin, at it's essence, is just a "twisting" of God's perfect will. When it comes to our sexual nature, it was God's perfect will that a man should come together with a woman for personal fulfillment and enjoyment, bonding of the relationship, and for procreation. Though homosexuality may meet certain of these physical needs- it ultimately ends in the death of a species as procreation is not possible. Homosexuality therefore is a sin- a "twisting" of what God had designed and also declared to be "good". I have to mention also that there are no greater or lesser sins- all sin places one outside of God's perfect will- thus alienating us from Him. This is the entire reason Christ had to come- He was the only one who ever lived a perfect and sinless life (because He was both God and man)- The Crucifixion of a totally innocent man in the place of all who were not innocent- thus fulfilling God's demands for justice against mankind for fouling up His whole creation.

SMCC_Panther

Yes Mr. Panetta will be greatly missed, but in the beginning he did sign a contract that he will follow the churches teachings. He broke the contract and therefore he has gotten his punishment. He should not have signed the contract that he didn't have the intention of upholding. I know that many of the students were crushed by this news, but a contract is a contract. Don't blame the school for what has happened, the school had no choice. Mrs. Melody Curtis was doing her job.

John Harville

Mrs. Melody Curtis and others have stated they knew of his relationship with David. Did it only become an issue when he announced his attention to marry in 2015?
Are you following the Church's teachings?
More importantly, are you following Christ's teachings. As one who has taught Confirmation classes, I would have to encourage you to head out to Reconciliation - if you can be truly contrite for the sin of judging harshly and passing a judgment for which you have no authority.
Are you and your parents upholding your contract to be a student in Sandusky Catholic Schools?

PagingSanity

The bottom line is that Brian was ousted because he violated their contract. The only questions that matter in my opinion are: Are any other faculty/staff members ALSO violating their contract in some way, shape, or form? If so, are they also being pushed out of their jobs or is Brian being singled out due of his homosexuality?

John Harville

The bottom line will be whether the contract is legal on its face. Can a Catholic school district which accepts state and federal funding for some of its programs, require such language?

John Harville

Naming names. Maybe it's time for those of us in the 'know' to begin sharing names with the Diocese....

sugar

SMCC student, who planted you here. You are either being told to do this or you're not a student.

themomx6

Just because someone disagrees with you they have been "planted"?

sugar

For a mom x6 you don't know kids very well. These aren't the posts of kids.

Panther Student

SMCC has taught us to form our own opinions on things...

John Harville

Form your own opinions.... but to speak them openly if they disagree with Church teachings?
So opine for us please... is masturbation a sin?
Is divorce except for unchastity a sin?
Is ANY form of sexual activity outside Sacred Wedlock a sin?
If Catholics marry outside the church, are their children bastards?
You might want to check your catechism before you answer.

Panther Student

I do not go against the Catholic Church's teachings. I think you misunderstood me. I am referring to the fact that a previous commentor mentioned that the students on here were planted. We'll defend our school and our Church by our own will.

Smcc Alum

@Sugar

-Nobody planted me here. I made this account when I was a freshman and have had it for a few years. I am still a student. Is your knowledge to superior for a "kid" to disagree with? I am flattered that you think my posts could not be written by a kid. I can credit my great St. Mary's education for teaching me well. Congratulations, you just indirectly complemented the same school that you hate.

cody6202000

Well, if your "education" was so "great," you would have likely learned that every reputable institute and organization in existence (and I'm not talking the Family Research Council, the Ruth Institute, NARTH, PFOX, National Organization for Marriage, Focus on the Family, Concerned Women for America, American Family Association...I could go on) holds that your position on our existence is incorrect.

Organizations such as the American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association, American Sociological Association, American Pediatric Association...if I can dig out a few more, I'll post them, but let's just say that the *vast* majority of clinicians and people who have studied the subject over the past 40 years (ever since DSM-III removed sexual orientation from the classifications in 1973) have come to the conclusion that, while it might not be *fully* so, there *is* something inherent at work that is part of one's sexuality and one's sexual identity.

Smcc Alum

I do not understand what you are saying. What does this have to do with breaking a contract?

cody6202000

"God didn't create homosexuality... It is a personal choice, yes God is perfect, he did create us. But he gave us free will. Indicating that it is your choice. God simply created us, he doesn't create our personal choices. "

That's the comment I'm responding to.

Smcc Alum

You're responding to the wrong user.. I'm not "Panther Student". I have no idea who that is. But they made their account name almost identical to mine.

sugar

I don't hate the school, this is where the extent of you education ends, you have no wisdom beyond your high school education, and your lack of life experience to judge my comments, so please go back to instagram and leave it be.

Smcc Alum

You think that you can belittle me because of the fact that you are older than me? After the last few days judging by the content of your comments I can tell you for sure, your ignorance and hatred by far outweighs your "experience" and "education" . Get off your high horse.

John Harville

I cannot speak for sugar. However my knowledge is not TOO superior - though I try not to end sentences with prepositions, especially unnecessary prepositions (I learned that in public school). And perhaps one of your St. Mary's educators can help you with the difference between 'complement' and 'compliment'.

Smcc Alum

Thanks for pointing that out, I'll get some help from my English teacher tomorrow.

I don't think you can judge the school based off of one single student's spelling and sentences. After all, I'm not as smart as half of the students that walk through those halls.

The subject of government is my cup of tea.

whyilefttown

but yet the catholic church will go to great lengths to hide their Pedifile priest by sending them off to other countries or churchs, but not fire them....grow up Catholics and stop using a beautiful religion as an excuse to be racist. Do they kick gay students out of the school too? O wait it's a private school so they would just deny them I forgot, part of the reason why a graduating class has maybe 50 students now if that in 15 years St. Mary's won't exist

cody6202000

Here's the petition I promised yesterday afternoon: (As mentioned before, as a former Willard HS student, I can't say I know Mr. Panetta, but as a fellow LGBT young-adult, I can say I stand in solidarity, and hope that we can open some eyes to these situations, as a reason for needing to pass the Equal Housing and Employment Act in Ohio, if not getting a full-fledged ENDA for the nation!)

http://www.change.org/petitions/...

PLEASE SIGN!

themomx6

n/t

MBR

Sorry if this has been addressed, but are the "the moral and religious teachings of the Catholic Church" spelled out specifically in the contracts that teachers sign?

Cody, here is another petition that is further along, you might want to sign this one, too: http://www.change.org/en-GB/peti...

cody6202000

Thanks for the heads-up on that :)

John Harville

"are the moral and religious teachings...."

Impossible. There are more than 9000 precepts in the Catechism that was fostered by Pope John Paul II (the protect-the-pedophiles saint-to-be) and his successor and chief hatchetman Ratzenberger aka Benedict.

One example to which one who signs such a contract:
The Church does NOT allow administration of drugs with an intent to hasten death.
The Church DOES allow administration of pain-killing drugs to bring comfort, even though there is the knowledge that such drugs in such doses could shorten natural life.
It is then a matter of 'intent' - as are most of the Church's "moral and religious teachings".
Just as there are two Acts of Contrition:
1. Act of Contrition: Being 'contrite' because one is afraid of hellfire and damnation. (Told by Mom to 'shake hands and say I'm sorry)
2. PERFECT Act of Contrition: Being 'truly contrite' because one's actions have caused pain or worse to another. This act is not 'perfected' until the sinner sincerely apologizes to and seeks forgiveness from the person/s wronged.
Interestingly, most Catholics cannot explain - or even know - this difference. Of course, most Catholic churches rarely offer personal reconciliation (confession) and years ago changed the Sacrament to 'Reconciliation'.

John Harville

2537 et seq in the Catechism states that homosexuals are allowed to be members of the church...

sugar

It's gone national, no turning back now. This man is so gracious he left his students words of love and encouragement on the white and black boards in their classroom. Class act, good luck to whomever tries to fill his shoes.

sugar

Happyfeet, I can't find the post but I was NOT referring to you.

MarbleheadNative

Shame on St Mary's. Will there be a "stoning?"
Isn't it 2014 after all???

cody6202000

ThinkProgress just picked this article up! As sugar has mentioned, it looks like this has gone national! :)

sugar

YES!!!

John Harville

"Because Sandusky Central Catholic School is not funded by taxpayer dollars, it is not required to release personnel files or other documents to the Register."

NOTE TO REGISTER... BULL!
Sandusky Catholic Schools recieve state and federal funding for lunch programs, reading specialists, a variety of supplemental programs as well as grants that REQUIRE their records to be open.
DOUBLE BULL. Sally Oberski gave you the Party Line about 'local decisions'. ALL EMPLOYEE CONTRACTS are with the Diocese and not the 'Local District' primarily because any labor disputes/legal action must be taken against the Diocese (case in point, a Clyde St. Mary's teacher who sued the Diocese - and won). Further case in point... the multi-million $$$ lawsuit 10 years ago in Toledo regarding Priests/teachers who allegedly molested several boys was filed against the Diocese even though the abuse happened within specific schools which failed to take action.
All items pertaining to this specific termination/resignation will be maintained in Toledo.
Shumaker, Loop and Kendrick is legal counsel for the Diocese. Might want to give them a call.

Dcfred20036

Update: Story has hit Washington, DC!

cody6202000

"What your petitions fails to mention is that Brian Panetta signed a contract when he was hired as a teacher-minister agreeing " to act and speak in a way that supports the Roman Catholic Church and its teachings. I understand that serious actions contrary to the Church's teachings (including but not limited to publicly living together outside marriage, public support of abortion, public support or use of a surrogate, public use or support of in vitro fertilization or flagrant deceit or dishonesty) will not be tolerated." By signing this contract "I acknowledge that I have read and understand this contract in its entirety. I understand that any violation of any section of this contract may result in termination of this contract and employment immediately.""

--Sally Oberski, Director of Communications/ Catholic Diocese of Toledo

Oy, vey... O_o

John Harville

And yet they knowingly baptize in-vitro babies in public ceremonies.

But read closely... each item is preceded by 'publicly' or 'public'. At what point - BEFORE the newspaper story - did the teacher 'publicly' do any of those things?

But don't check too closely on Sally Oberski - some of 'know'.

"...may result in termination..." not WILL RESULT

No contract can require persons to foreswear First Amendment rights - which is why the Diocese has lost/settled lawsuits so many times.

sugar

Brian Panetta on channel 8 FOX news out of Cleveland!

starryeyes83

So the crux is Gay people are ALLOWED to BREAK contracts (any contracts). And it's okay as long as the gay card is played? Right?

But straight people aren't? Hmmm?

Isn't MARRIAGE a contract?

Just asking ....

cody6202000

The contract has to be a *legal* one, and the crux of the question is, and may be in the future: "Does an entity that receives public funds have the right to set out criteria in a contract that runs counter to the rights of already-protected minority classes?"

This is a bit of a moot point in a state that doesn't have an anti-discrimination statute, but in a state or locale (let's use Kalamazoo, MI, as an example, since they famously passed such a clause a couple years ago) that *does* have LGBTI protections, would that contract pass judicial muster?

John Harville

The point is not moot.
There remains that "freedom of speech" thing in the Constitution that the Duck Dynasty and TP shout about all the time.

...and I've been to Catholic baptisms of children born of surrogacy and in-vitro to Roman Catholic spouses.

This decision was entirely up to the school leaders - Melody et al - who reacted homophobically to 'protect the students'.

Babo

It's a legal contract. Do you think an Institution with 1.2 billion members doesn't have some very good lawyers?

The Supreme Court of the United States has held that teachers in religious schools cannot assert discrimination claims against their employer church for conduct that violates basic tenets of the faith.
See Hosana Tabor Lutheran Church v EEOC (2011).

John Harville

WRONG AGAIN Babble. If you want to impersonate a lawyer you at the least should read the opinion.
1. It's a 2012 decision.
2. The ruling narrowly kept the scope to the right of religious organizations to hire MINISTERS.
3. The school minister was fired for insubordination after she threatened to sue when not allowed to return to work after medical leave.
4. The Court - all nine concurring - noted the decision did NOT affect actions pertaining to non-ministerial employees.

Wherever you got your information, you REALLY should go to the original decision (oh, but you don't know how, do you?)

Babo

Teachers are considered to be in ministerial positions, that's the point. The woman was a teacher. (Read the Opinion) Again, if he has such a great case, why aren't lawyers standing in line to sue the deep pocketed Roman Catholic Church?

John Harville

Contract language " to act and speak in a way that supports the Roman Catholic Church and its teachings. I understand that serious actions contrary to the Church's teachings (including but not limited to publicly living together outside marriage, public support of abortion, public support or use of a surrogate, public use or support of in vitro fertilization or flagrant deceit or dishonesty) will not be tolerated."

Since when does even the Roman Catholic Church have the power to force ANYONE to sacrifice his/her Constitutional Rights (remember that 'free speech' thing?) in order to be employed?

This is why - even if this teacher doesn't sue - the Diocese of Toledo will eventually lose the 'contract' argument and be required to remove or revise the language.

The contract language - as provided by Sally Oberski - says action MAY RESULT... thus leaving it up to officials to choose their actions which could have included resignation effective with the end of the school year.

John Harville

The ceiling of the Sistine Chapel was painted by a homosexual.

But centuries of popes have worshipped there almost daily.

John Harville

2. Who can get free meals?
All children in households receiving benefits through the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) or Ohio Works First (OWF) benefits can get free meals regardless of your income. Also, your children can get free meals if your household’s gross income is within the free limits on the Federal Income Guidelines.

3. Can foster children get free meals?
Yes, foster children that are under the legal responsibility of a foster care agency or court, are eligible for free meals. Any foster child in the household is eligible for free meals regardless of income.

4. Can homeless, runaway and migrant children get free meals?
Yes, children who meet the definition of homeless, runaway, or migrant qualify for free meals. If you have not been told your children will get free meals, please call or email the school at 419-626-1892 ext. 276 or email jrunner@sanduskycentralcatholic.com to see if they qualify.

5. Who can get reduced price meals?
Your children can get low cost meals if your household income is within the reduced price limits on the Federal Eligibility Income Chart shown on this application.

WHICH MEANS... SCCC accepts federal and state taxpayer dollars and therefore relinquishes any assumed privacy privileges.

Karma2u

Soon everyone will know that MELODY CURTIS is totally behind this firing and betraying Brian. She has a history of tearing schools and communities apart. I listened to the interview with Brian and he went to her confidentially. Everyone knew that he was in a relationship.

sugar

I have heard this rumor too, some people saw through her from the get go.

John Harville

Contract language " to act and speak in a way that supports the Roman Catholic Church and its teachings. I understand that serious actions contrary to the Church's teachings (including but not limited to PUBLICLY LIVING TOGETHER OUTSIDE MARRIAGE [I know of at least three same-gender employees who are roommate - is that covered here]), public support of abortion, public support or use of a surrogate, public use or support of in vitro fertilization or flagrant deceit or dishonesty) will not be tolerated."

And then there is that 'deceit' thing where Melody Curtis took information in confidence and made it public.

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