Perkins, Margaretta school leaders apply for other districts’ openings

Includes pdfs of applications.
Alissa Widman Neese
Nov 7, 2013
Perkins Schools superintendent Jim Gunner said he’s available to leave the district Jan. 1, according to a job application the Register obtained Monday.

Gunner recently applied to be superintendent at Tiffin Schools and Findlay Schools.

Margaretta Schools superintendent Ed Kurt is also vying for the Findlay Schools job.

The Register obtained copies of applications and resumés they sent to the districts.

In Gunner’s application to Tiffin Schools, he lists his “date available for employment” as Jan. 1, but says his “preferred hire date” is Aug. 1. The current Tiffin Schools superintendent is set to retire Dec. 31 and board members hope to select areplacement by the end of the month.

Gunner’s contract with Perkins Schools ends July 2015. He currently receives about $117,000 a year and is requesting a $120,000 salary at Tiffin Schools.

In their applications to Findlay Schools, Gunner and Kurt were not required to list their preferred hire date. Board members hope to announce their selection in late December. Their superintendent retires at the end of the school year.

Gunner is requesting a $150,000 salary at Findlay Schools, while Kurt is requesting a $135,000 salary. Kurt receives about $118,000 a year at Margaretta Schools. His contract ends July 2016.

Gunner has not returned calls seeking comment on his job applications and other Perkins Schools issues.

When contacted this past week, Kurt said he is happy at Margaretta Schools, but is exploring other opportunities.

Copies of the applications and resumés have been posted below

Comments

oldpirate

What person in their right mind would ever come to Perkins with all the intelligent people willing to offer insightful advice about how to move forward. Maybe Ralph Roshong will come back. He can't screw it up any more than he did the first time.

whattheBucks

Rrrrrrrrralphyyyyyyyyyyyy !!!!!!!!!!

The New World Czar

A few thousand more dollars and an available date of January 1? No wonder he's not returning any phone calls. I'm actually surprised he isn't taking the remainder of the year off.

Keep Focused

To: Nemesis

Somehow I just now discovered your post.
I enjoyed your response.

I do believe in a democracy (through our elected representatives).

Just one very important point. The School Board and Dr Gunner presented, at least twice in public session, the options for funding new facilities. I was there to listen.

Moving the millage and using stimulus money was only one of the options. It was explained why that option, financially, was the best option.

Your Nixon comparison is not appropriate.

I am tempted to agree with you that the marching orders from the voters it to do the best you can with the money you have.

While many may feel that way at the moment, that game plan will completely fail in the next few years. An example would be a failure of the outside electrical system.

Several people have stated here that it is time to find the game plan that people can support. I support that idea. Now that everyone is paying attention and is pretty well informed, we have a better chance at this.

I ask you now to be part of new game plan.

fifteenthgreen

I'm in.

Nemesis

"Moving the millage and using stimulus money was only one of the options.
It was explained why that option, financially, was the best option. "

It was explained why Gunner&Co. BELIEVED it was the best option. The voters disagreed. Sometimes I present what I think to be the best option to my boss, and he disagrees. When that happens my choices are do it his way or look for another job.

"Your Nixon comparison is not appropriate."

It's very appropriate. Nixon accomplished a lot of good things, but ultimately, he was unwilling to work within the legally established structure of who was subordinate to whom. He did this because his arrogance told him that his ideas were so right that he couldn't risk them being rejected due to our system of limited government powers. That's very applicable to Gunner - he and the board have more than amply demonstrated that they refuse to accept the will of the electorate and will do anything they can to subvert it.

"I am tempted to agree with you that the marching orders from the voters it to do the best you can with the money you have....Now that everyone is paying attention and is pretty well informed, we have a better chance at this. "

Don't hold your breath. I've seen this happen before in other school districts. What do you want to bet the returning incumbents' first impulse is to go for another levy of the same or nearly the same size in a special election in February (which will cost the district 10's of thousands of dollars) or in the primary election? The tried and true strategy is to keep shoving a levy down the voters' throats until their gag reflex wears out and they swallow it out of sheer election fatigue. I'm pretty sure they'll have to put the levy up 7 times to break the current record. It's just more of the same arrogance Gunner&Co. have displayed up to now - "You're going to keep voting until you vote the way we want." A good illustration of their attitude is bherrie's elitist outrage that township voters DARE to vote against the will of those he believes to be their betters.

Here are some ideas based on the clearly (and repeatedly) expressed wishes of the voters.

-The voters have made it clear that they will not tolerate end runs around their power of the pursestrings, so step 1 is to move the inside millage back.

-The voters have made it clear that they do NOT want new buildings built, so step 2 is an ACCURATE assessment of the infrastructure that does not depend on the judgement of those who stand to financially benefit from the construction of new buildings.

-Triage what absolutely needs to be done, and submit the smallest possible fixed term levy to handle just those things.

-Continue pay to play. The operative word in that is "play," and most of the 'no' voters have made it clear that they do not intend to tax
themselves to subsidize the recreational preferences of other peoples' kids. People pay for their kids to play Little League in the summer, why should it be any different for sports that are played during the school year? Actually, sports programs should be privately run and community based, so the schools can concentrate their resources on their core mission (which is NOT playing games.)

-NO MORE IPADS. It's not the schools' job to outfit people with personal electronics, but if Perkins parents REALLY can't afford digital hardware for their kids (who I bet all have the latest smartphones) then comparable Android devices cost HALF as much, and should be furnished on a need basis, e.g. only to kids eligible for reduced or free lunches.

-The boosters need to start a fundraising campaign to payback the portion of the stadium costs that the Board borrowed, and the Yes campaign needs to start a similar one to retire the portion of the loan that went to planning a project that had already been denied by the voters. If it were up to me, Gunner and the Board members who voted for the loan would be held personally liable for it. I don't see how they even got it since Ohio law requires balanced budgets for school districts absent a voter approved bond issue.

- Cut the administration - we always hear about teacher layoffs, but never about any administrative ones.

- Contract out groundskeeping and landscaping, snow removal, and food service. The private sector knows how to do these more efficiently. A friend of mine who worked for one of the major vendors overhauled one district's food service to the point that it was returning enough profit to the general fund to pay for two additional teachers after one year, and twice that much the second year.

PyrkinsPyrate

This post is simply the most clear and concise statement defining the values of the No Voter. This is so succinct. Great work.

Nemesis

I'd like to add that the difference between the two sides in this is NOT about wanting good schools for the children of the commmunity.

The difference lies in acceptance/rejection of the proposition that dollars spent is a meaningful metric of quality education. Superintendents and board members almost always accept that proposition, and why shouldn't they - they're the ones doing the spending, and spending money is a very pleasurable thing. I once challenged a school board president to name a percentage of the community's local GDP going to the public schools that he would accept as "enough." 5%, 10%, 20%? When I got as high as 50% and he still wasn't willing to say it was enough, I just walked away in disgust. Imagine you and everyone in your community paying 50% of your income to the school district, and they STILL aren't willing to say it's enough.

donutshopguy

Keep,

Would love to be part of the new game plan. When is the first meeting?

Bherrle

I'm in as well, I would like to participate.
In the interim, the next board meeting is this coming Wednesday at 7 pm.

We need to have real, fact based, face to face discussions about these issues. Eliminate the emotion and work together on solutions.

wetsu

According to the Courier web site, Gunner and Kurt are scheduled for interviews this weekend. They whittled it down to five pretty early and those two made the first cut.

Common Sense

Good luck to both candidates. For all those who have criticized either man, just be careful what you wish for as it may come true. You have no idea what you may face should either of these men leave their current positions.

PyrkinsPyrate

Did anyone bother to check out ole turkey neck's resume? Just a long list boasting about raising taxes and handing out laptops. That is all this whole 100 million dollar campus would be, bullet points in his resume.How I wish we could get someone in here who actually cared about the community, wanted to live here and help make it a better place.

Nemesis

"Did anyone bother to check out ole turkey neck's resume? Just a long list boasting about raising taxes and handing out laptops"

Well, that's appropriate, since, when all is said and done, what most school boards REALLY mean by the job description boils down to "spend other peoples' money."

"That is all this whole 100 million dollar campus would be, bullet points in his resume"

BINGO!!!! That's what it's been about all along - how better to land a job running a high spending district (the brass ring for a superintendent) than being able to say you managed a 9 figure campus replacement project. It's also nice for the board members to have their names on a cornerstone. I like to call it their edifice complex.

Keep Focused

Nemesis

Our dialogue has reached the point of diminishing return.

I only offer one additional thought. Your criticism of "arrogance told him that his ideas were so right" might be directed back to you.

Just give it a thought. In this discussion I give you the last word.

Nemesis

"Our dialogue has reached the point of diminishing return."

That's funny, since no one else has offered any of the game plan ideas for which you asked.

"I only offer one additional thought. Your criticism of "arrogance told him that his ideas were so right" might be directed back to you."

That's utterly ridiculous. You have a major failure to grasp the concepts at issue.

Gunner subverted the consent of the governed - I'm not even in government. I've never said that if the vote goes against what I believe, I'll take measures to subvert it. I've never come anywhere close to faulting Gunner for vigorously ADVOCATING for what he believes - he can write all the open letters, hold all the information sessions, and say whatever he wants. His material actions with other peoples' money are the issue. I haven't confiscated money from people under threat of imprisonment or losing their home and then decided my ideas justified me doing other than what the voters said. If you don't grasp the difference between advocating for one's point of view and abusing a position of authority to force one's point of view on a population, then yes we have reached the point of diminishing return, because it means rational discourse is lost on you.

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