Gunner, Kurt apply to be Findlay Schools superintendent

Perkins, Margaretta superintendents are two of 10 applicants revealed Thursday
Alissa Widman Neese
Nov 1, 2013

Jim Gunner and Ed Kurt, superintendents at Perkins Schools and Margaretta Schools, respectively, are vying to be superintendent at Findlay Schools, according to the Findlay Courier.

An article posted to the Courier's website Thursday lists Gunner and Kurt as two of 10 applicants seeking the job.

When contacted Thursday, Kurt said he submitted an application a few weeks ago. The application process ended Oct. 25.

"It's an opportunity I'm exploring," Kurt said. "I'm very happy where I'm at. We've accomplished a lot and there's still a lot to accomplish, but I'm looking into that opportunity."

Gunner did not return a call Thursday evening seeking comment.

Findlay school board members hope to announce their selection in late December, according to the Courier. Findlay Schools superintendent Dean Wittwer is retiring at the end of the current school year.

Comments

Subtle

/facepalm

I am without words 0.0

fifteenthgreen

Subtle - Answer my "self centered" question above. Would you immediately fix the asbestos crisis like we immediately fixed the stadium bleacher crisis?

Bherrle

So, just to be sure that I understand you correctly, Jay Franklin wants to cut all Athletics and Extra Curiculars?

And , Michael Ahner wants to fire Gunner?

Hawkeye

Bherrle-Did J tell you this???

Bherrle

Hawkeye,

Belikemike is stating that above. I am merely asking him to confirm his statement.

fifteenthgreen

Brad, add your thoughts to the discussion below with Subtle.

Strong Schools ...

So, you are saying it is okay for people to sleep on the job and his grandmother should not have lost her job for that. She got in trouble for other things as well. Good for Gunner for keeping quality in our schools. Vote yes in November and support the students. They will be the ones suffering if it does not pass.
http://perkinslevy.org/

Subtle

I believe, and unfortunately, I don't have time to research this at the moment, that asbestos poses no danger unless it is disturbed. If I remember correctly from just out of high school when I was helping renovate old buildings for a summer job, as long as it isn't disturbed, it is no threat.

Once you begin working on however, particularly its removal, the entire area must be sealed off as the tiny airborne particles are what really pose a threat.

I honestly doubt that it can be fixed for 2.5 million, but I don't have access to the contractor quotes so I can't say either way. What I do know is the 2.5 million is only 10% of the total cost of repairs needed on the entire high school.

I would bet, a brand new high school could be built for less than 20 million with no asbestos and completely up to current fire codes. It would be energy efficient, and certainly more secure than the current building.

So the question is, would I prefer they attempt to safely quarantine wings of the school while they remove the asbestos, all while renting trailer type classrooms to house the displaced students that will not be able to use those areas while the repairs are completed. For a cost of 2.5 million dollars that would be money simply thrown out the window if it proves to be a more financially sound decision to build new.

As I said earlier, I suspect they could build a new high school for under 20 million. If you subtract the 2.5 million from the 25 million dollar estimate from 2009 to renovate(that is probably now closer to 30 million), you are left with 22.5 million. Since that number would still be greater than the cost to build new, those asbestos removal expenses would just be demolished with the old building that is unsound in every way, from foundation to roof.

I realize you are concerned, so if I finish up early today, I'll go see what I can find about the asbestos removal process, completion timelines, and risk of the undisturbed asbestos.

Sorry for the slow reply, I had to go bang my head against the wall after reading BeLikeMike's post...

fifteenthgreen

I get what you're saying but allegedly this levy is not about a new school. You yourself said it. The removal of this hazard could have taken place during the summer....not during the school year. Why worry about sealing off any areas. They walk amongst it daily. It's "everywhere" according to the spooky, scary, frightening video posted online. They removed it years ago from the pool ceiling during the summer. Again, I'm not subtracting numbers from pseudo dollar figures. This isn't about the bottom line. This is about child safety and your BOE and levy committee took it upon themselves to film fingerprint indentations in hazardous materials. This is NOT contained if they are touching it. How can anyone argue this?

High School - 20 million? No way - More like 50-60 million or more! 2.5 million could save lives now....if you watch the video on the Perkins Levy Website! Which is it? What's the message?

Subtle

The entire campus that was voted down, all four buildings on one single set of grounds was only going to cost 50 million. Of course there was going to be an additional 50 million supplemented by the state, but still all 4 buildings were only going to cost US 50 million.

fifteenthgreen

So it would be 100 million plus now for all four buildings? Honestly, Subtle you would have to consider merging at that point. I would be curious to see what the student numbers would be with a merger/campus like that. It couldn't be any bigger than the top 15 school districts in the state. Again though, can this area support it without the industry to include a city wide merger. We've discussed this at length and I get what you're saying about people living outside of the city and living in rural areas. That used to be the Sandusky/Perkins relationship. Everyone worked in the city and wanted to live in the township. Now that most of the viable industry and manufacturing has left the entire rust belt, the challenges are rearing their ugly heads! Interesting discussion, though!

Also, you can't really fault those opposed to any additional expenditure a few years back to include a school of that magnitude. We all were coming out of an economic, global disaster and barely on the upswing of a recovery. We still aren't there yet.

oldpirate

15th you flip so much I wonder what your real agenda is. maybe you don't want to pay tax increase and tuition to SMCC? Yes there is asbestos in the school and needs addressed. But as stated by the health dept. report it is contained. Mainly because of good attention by the school. The health dept. report never stated that the issue didn't need to be addressed only that it was presently contained. You only speak of half stories. You have no interest in the whole story.

fifteenthgreen

No, oldpirate. The district brought up the asbestos crisis prior to the health department being called in by the citizens of the township to get the facts straight. The district is obviously choosing to ignore the health department's report, as well because they keep emphasizing it in their "scary, spooky" videos posted on their website. "Good attention"? Children are sticking their fingers in the stuff. How is that "contained"? Why do these children have the ability to stick/embed their fingers in these materials containing asbestos? Hey, we may have to get the health department back in there because their focus per the report was strictly on the piping. What do you think, oldpirate? Also, I flip because their/your message continually flips looking for anything that will sneak this levy through!

Strong Schools ...

Support the students in November. I have all the facts for you on the levy website!
http://perkinslevy.org/

oldpirate

Yes they did. A long term plan. Just like that high mileage car. Isn't broken now but you better do something about it. The health dept. report simply states that there aren't any active issues. I doubt your children often do things you tell then not to.Is every act of poor judgement your fault? We have a dim future with your lack of vision.

fifteenthgreen

No they didn't. A long term plan to an immediate crisis??? If the kids are touching it, it is being disturbed. I know that stuff and I can't believe it is accessible by the students. A "dim future" for any child breathing in those particle per your ignorance and the boards negligence. You must not care, though. Hell, you don't go there. It's your kid. Take one for your ole parents, kids!

oldpirate

Don't be so sure.

oldpirate

If so then the health dept report was in error?

fifteenthgreen

I think the health department report was way too vague for all parties involved. Were they aware children are disturbing these areas with their fingers? I think it is something that needs to be addressed beyond any levy campaign and I think you would agree. Questions just need to be clarified by experts in the field and all evidence needs to be presented. Still, for 2.5 million fix it for now and should a new school be built in the future, we can be rest assured that our children were safe in the meantime. They should not use it as levy marketing material and not expect to be called out on it. Safety first!

Your long term plan? http://www.perkinsschools.org/Do...

Subtle

Honestly, I share your concern about the asbestos, and ALL the repairs needed. If the boiler explodes, if the foundation causes some sort of structural collapse, if the old pipes allow sewage to leech into the drinking water, there are many things that need addressed.

Unfortunately, due to the state stealing from us to pay for other districts, and the fact that Perkins residents only contribute a fraction of what other area schools residents do in tax revenue, there hasn't been a sufficient revenue stream to address the problems. If Perkins received even close to what all other area schools receive in tax revenue, those problems probably wouldn't even exist.

I believe you or Centauri asked on another thread who decided to use PVC to patch the busted sewer pipes. I realize many of the readers here don't realize this, but Dr. Gunner does not have a position that is like the president of a company. He cannot implement changes, or hire a contractor, or have the pipes replaced without board... he can't even veto an idea. He can research options and make recommendations, but ultimately, the decisions rest with the board.

He applies policy and changes approved by the board and makes sure they are carried out to the board's specifications. From the looks of the sewage pipes in the video, it appears one ruptured. While replacing the pipes with cast iron would require board review and a vote, as well as bid submission from local contractors, Dr. Gunner does have the ability to use a small emergency fund to hire a contractor to patch said pipes in what was likely an emergency situation.

oldpirate

Boy you are startin to almost sound like a yes voter. Maybe hope for you yet.

fifteenthgreen

I am a yes voter when I believe in the direction and leadership of what it is I'm being asked to vote on. I'm not simply going to vote yes for something I don't entirely believe in. I strongly feel we all can resolve this but you have to admit, many, many mistakes have been made with this campaign. I too am an old pirate and love that school district. I don't like the way it is currently being administered and their mixed message.

fifteenthgreen

bherrle, add to the discussion and quit policing other comments. oldpirate gets it and is a big boy!

Bherrle

15th,

Quit playing games by changing your comments/questions after someone answers you.

Strong Schools ...

Get with it fifteenthgreen and vote yes in November!
http://perkinslevy.org/

oldpirate

xxx

oldpirate

Go Pirates!

queenjhb

vote no

oldpirate

15th I think we need new now. We missed the boat when we could have received state funding. If we aren't moving forward we go backwards. The issue is becoming critical. That said I don't have any indication whether the plan will be to fix the old or build new. I feel we have more to gain with a new bldg.

oldpirate

If we continue to vote no because we aren't happy about certain issues, soon there won't anything to fix. I have not been happy with everything that occurs but none of that changes the situation. I decided to get involved. I have learned many things. The idea of hidden agendas are nothing more than a ploy to confuse the issue and tear the community apart. There are so many splintered groups each with a different goal for the levy to fail. I only hope that enough people who support the Perkin Schools votes yes and then becomes involved in making the system the best it can be.

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