Gunner, Kurt apply to be Findlay Schools superintendent

Perkins, Margaretta superintendents are two of 10 applicants revealed Thursday
Alissa Widman Neese
Nov 1, 2013

 

Jim Gunner and Ed Kurt, superintendents at Perkins Schools and Margaretta Schools, respectively, are vying to be superintendent at Findlay Schools, according to the Findlay Courier.

An article posted to the Courier's website Thursday lists Gunner and Kurt as two of 10 applicants seeking the job.

When contacted Thursday, Kurt said he submitted an application a few weeks ago. The application process ended Oct. 25.

"It's an opportunity I'm exploring," Kurt said. "I'm very happy where I'm at. We've accomplished a lot and there's still a lot to accomplish, but I'm looking into that opportunity."

Gunner did not return a call Thursday evening seeking comment.

Findlay school board members hope to announce their selection in late December, according to the Courier. Findlay Schools superintendent Dean Wittwer is retiring at the end of the current school year.

Comments

fifteenthgreen

Do you feel the asbestos emergency should be addressed instead of donating 1.7 million dollars to a new stadium??? Priorities....Perkins BOE! Fix the alleged asbestos problem first!

Kelly

No, not at all.

Bherrle

No, not at all 15th.

fifteenthgreen

What is wrong with you two???

Bherrle

Nothing 15th. It's not about Gunner. It's about the needs of the district. I happen to agree with the direction the board has chosen, and I agree with a lot of Gunners ideas.

I don't want to see Gunner leave, but if he does, he does. That will not change the challenges we are facing, or the direction I feel we should take.

Now, which way do you want it? You have been calling for Gunner to resign or be fired. You hear that he applied for another position and you criticize that ? Which way do you want it?

A lot of you no voters seem to think that yes voters have this love affair with Gunner. What is it you call us, Gunnerbots? Please, Our district is about much more than one man.

fifteenthgreen

He is gone, either way or the chances of this district getting anything done during his stay is zero. If this levy does not pass Tuesday and he remains on board, forget it! I think even you can figure that one out. All confidence is lost. What do you think is going to suddenly make over half of the voters change their minds, bherrle? I didn't criticize his applying for another position. I simply stated that I would feel betrayed. How can you work so hard for someone that never wanted to be here in the first place? It certainly isn't because of results!

Nemesis

Gunnerbot seems appropriate - since you appeared on this site you've unceasingly endorsed everything he's done, including subverting the consent of the governed. One wonders if there's anything he could do that would make you quit his fan club.

I think it's great he's looking elsewhere - it's the smartest thing he's done in a long time. If he really believes in this levy for anything but selfish reasons, he should realize that the most effective thing he could do to help it pass would be resign.

Strong Schools ...

Get your Perkins pride back and support the students! Vote yes in November!
http://perkinslevy.org/

Cowboy

I just voted NO again! I also voted for Franklin and Ahner! Can't wait to see Gunnie's eyes when he hears that Franklin and Ahner are on the board! That just might be enough for Gunnie to throw in the towel! We can only hope and pray! Time to get this train back on track!

bobshumway92

Please hire Gunner!

bondgirlM

lol that's funny us in Margaretta School District want them to hire Kurt.
Well may the "best man" win :)

bobshumway92

I can't wait for the Breaking News Headline to be Gunner Resigns or Gunner Is Fired.

Good 2 B Me

Funny. The guy that called me and tried to get me to vote yes told me that Gunner planned to retire when his contract ended.

Another LIE!

VOTENO

Vote yes.

princedenny

Are you surprised that one of the pro-levy people, member of the Perkins BOE, or a Perkins administrator lied to you?

Good 2 B Me

Sadly, I am not surprised at all. I am being reassured that I have made the correct decisions.

Strong Schools ...

Support the students in November! Vote yes.
http://perkinslevy.org/

Big Poppy

Guess I'll be calling Findlay Schools tomorrow, and tell them Gunner is a very honest and hard working guy. And that they would be stupid not to hire him!

Strong Schools ...

They would be crazy not to hire him. It will be our loss! Vote yes and support the students. Support the future of our community!
http://perkinslevy.org/

VOTENO

Vote yes.

VOTENO

Vote yes.

CAST THE FIRST STONE

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Allabout the kids REALLY

akmed

SHOW ME THE MONEY dose that sum it up? I wonder how his loyal clones feel now.

Finn Finn

They are embarrassed that they were so easily duped, and PO'd because they look like fools now, but they're not about to admit it. (see Kelly and Bherrle ^_^ )

Kelly

Duped how? Look like a fool how? It's just a job and it doesn't matter who does it. It's JUST a job and not one for life. He's not the friggen Pope. I personally like Dr. Gunner but it really doesn't matter to me at all if he stays or goes. It's never been about him, it's been about the district. You people are the ones obsessed with him.

Nemesis

Then you should encourage him to leave - at this point he's nothing but a polarizing figure.

Strong Schools ...

Support the students in November. Check out the levy website for the facts!
http://perkinslevy.org/

VOTENO

Vote yes.

Lil DAB

✰ lol

Bherrle

I'm here Huckleberry.

Perkins2060

Good news.

Big Poppy

All the Gunner Cronies are probably on their way to Findlay to protest. Or still under his desk

Strong Schools ...

Classy! Vote yes in November and support the students!
http://perkinslevy.org/

Centauri

http://www.findlaycityschools.or...
"The Findlay City School District is seeking qualified applicants for the position of Superintendent to replace retiring Superintendent Dean Wittwer who has led the district for the last eight years. The Board seeks an innovative and creative leader in education and administration. It is preferred that the new Superintendent take office by July 1, 2014."

Perkins2060

Can't Gunner start now?

Big Poppy

Hell I'll even buy him breakfast and drive him to Findlay if he stays!

Perkins2060

No, we pay him mileage. He'd lose money if you drove.

Big Poppy

Well I'll drive his car and I'll walk back!

Good 2 B Me

Can we all write letters of recommendation?

Strong Schools ...

He gets paid milage to drive to meetings. Not to commute to and from home. Know your facts before you post. Check out the levy website and support the students in November!
http://perkinslevy.org/

Gyro Cart Guy

I think this reeks of future school consolidation between Sandusky, Perkins and Margaretta. Gunner and Kurt know it's coming. It's sad but it's the only way to survive with the cuts in state funding.

Perkins2060

St. Mary's enrollment would go up over 10 X's what they have now.

queenjhb

Gunnerbots stunned ? wake up now and vote No.

buckeyeguy

VOTE NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Strong Schools ...

Wake up and vote yes. It is time to support the students!
http://perkinslevy.org/

Lil DAB
Perkins2060

NO NO NO!

bobshumway92

Did all the yes ladies give up? Where are they?

Strong Schools ...

We are here. Vote yes in November!
http://perkinslevy.org/

whazup

Maybe if Gunner goes, you can hire Fox. He needs a job!

Good 2 B Me

Don't give them any ideas!!

bobshumway92

Anything is better than Gunner.

Azure Ray

Apparently Gunner can't win - you say that you want him to listen to the voters. Doesn't it seem like he is? People claim that they won't vote for the levy until he goes. Well, he listened to the voters and he seems to know that leaving will be best for the district because so many people seem to be under the impression that he is the sole reason for all of the problems in Perkins (that fact will soon be proven wrong - there are many reasons for public education to be failing right now. It's just easier to point fingers). So, once the new board has been elected to office and a levy is up, I expect that all you "no" voters will be switching your vote?

Wald

Yeah, I'm sure Gunner applied to Findlay because he thought it'd be best for Perkins. Sure. In reality, Gunner never had his heart in Perkins. It was just a stepping stone to pad his resume. This is the second time he's applied elsewhere while at Perkins. That ought to tell you something. And yes, once new leadership is in place with the BOE and we have a new super, I will entertain voting yes for a levy, as long as the millage is moved back and there's a reasonable levy proposed. No trust in this BOE or super, especially now. The silence of the Gunnerbots on this speaks volumes.

goodtime1212

We are no voters and will NOT be changing our vote. Yes Mr. Gunner needs to go and he just proved once more why. There is no trust for him or the BOE. Until they totally drop the idea of a new school, come up with a plan that the tax payers can get behind and support (not the ideas of a small group and have that small group cram there idea down our throats) we will be voting no.

Strong Schools ...

Thank you, Azure! The "NO" people just want to complain. They have nothing better to do. Also, they never want to be the solution but they want to create more problems.

Support the students in November and vote yes!
http://perkinslevy.org/

Cowboy

I just voted NO again! I also voted for Franklin and Ahner! Can't wait to see Gunnie's eyes when he hears that Franklin and Ahner are on the board! That just might be enough for Gunnie to throw in the towel! We can only hope and pray! Time to get this train back on track!

Lin Williams

1st off everyone of these articles have the same comments over and over and over, pretty much from several of the same people, for gosh sakes take a step back and breath! If you want Gunner to go get another job somewhere so bad then QUIT writing these comments all over a public forum, I`m sure Findlay knowing Gunner applied reads and investigates this mess. 2nd off, voting NO is fine for anyone who chooses but face reality they will get their money one way or another don't they always? Since when do we the people matter to anyone In a higher position? I think its hilarious how so many of you complain that renters don't feel the impact when something comes about with taxes, are you serious? Rent goes up when property taxes do so owning or rent everyone is going to feel! Hopefully we get past this mess in Perkins and find something new to dwell on because this has been run in the ground for far too long!

Nemesis

Those making the hiring decision in Findlay in all probability share Gunner's fascist ideology and endorse his behavior here. Unfortunately, Gunner's thinking is far from the exception among the administrators and leaders in public schools. Their universal message seems to be "hand over your wallet and your kids then go away and shut up because we're experts."

Strong Schools ...

Vote yes and it will be over. Support the Students!
http://perkinslevy.org/

Darkhorse

Public meetings are always so great. Caught these two superintendents looking for a job. You can't keep anything a secret. There is always someone to find out exactly what is going on. Everyone must think the average taxpayer is stupid and doesn't know what is going on under their noses. There is always someone around to spill the beans.

bao

i was told back in september to expect an announcement like this just before the next levy, of course i didnt believe it. should the levy pass, expect another article "gunner backs out of running for findlay position"

fifteenthgreen

Either pass or fail, he needs to resign from leading this district.

WhatTheHeck

I don't live in the area any longer and boy am I glad I don't have to put up with the snooty crowd there anymore.

Strong Schools ...

I don't know why people in this community has lost their pride. We are the school district of choice! That says a lot about our schools. Vote yes and support the students in November!
http://perkinslevy.org/

Just Thinkin

Gunner has Perkins future on his mind! Crow goes great with whine eat away Gunner fans, it is time to fire him now !! you want levy's passed then do what the voter's ask

bobshumway92

Does anyone know of anywhere else Gunner can apply? Let's help him in his search.

donutshopguy

My understanding is that Mr. Kurt was given a new 5 year contract with 2 years remaining on his present contract by the school board in Margaretta.

Applying for a new job does not show appreciation or loyalty to those you work for and represent.

Doug7880

DSG you are correct. I was in the meeting when the new contract was voted on. Only 1 board member voted against the contract.

Strong Schools ...

Your family member just got a new job in another school district and they still support Perkins. Don't be a hypocrite! Vote yes in November and support the students!
http://perkinslevy.org/

icuthair

Well hopefully we get some new blood on the BOE and they'll get rid of Ed Kurt and his bonuses for being a Superintendent, not doing any actual teaching!

goodtime1212

Cant wait to see if Gunner gets the job and see if he moves to the district to pay taxes.

Nemesis

That's why he wants the job - he'll make a killing on mileage!

fifteenthgreen

Plus $140,000 per the last Findlay Supt.!

Strong Schools ...

And people think Gunner makes too much now. He does not get paid what he is worth. Vote yes in November and support the students!
http://perkinslevy.org/

gyrocartfluffikins

I think those that don't want consolidation with Sandusky Schools are ignoring the possibilities of the powerful school system that could be had in the Sandusky area.

Certainly, the sports teams would be powerful. With Coach Jayson's leadership, the Blue Streaks (yes, forget about it Pirate fans....there is too much history there to use your nickname) would be restored to previous glory in Division 1 football, not to mention how successful all the other sports would be.

And, consolidation would be great for the Perkins kids in terms of academics....there would be no more discussion of antiquated buildings, etc. A new, consolidated school district would be able to use the cost savings to build a sparkling new Sandusky High School where the Perkins kids could learn in safety....

A win-win, I say. Get on board Pirates!

fifteenthgreen

Why would you want to merge with Perkins, gyro and what the hell does athletics have to do with anything? That was sadly, your first emphasis. Last I checked, Sandusky would benefit from an athletic merger. You know why......because all of Sandusky's athletes have jumped the Perkins Avenue line and are already "merged" into the Perkins system thus the partial reason for this mess.

Both are in the toilet academically!

gyrocartfluffikins

fifteen, I really appreciate your comments on this situation. It's good to have vigorous discussion back and forth between community members....PERKINS community members. I attended the Perkins School System, so I love the black and red, AND the Big Blue. I don't see an imaginary boundary between the two systems. I see opportunity.

And while the athletic programs of both school systems can stand on their own, I think you have to be excited by the possibilities of a combined group.

Subtle

Merging the two districts would either cost the citizens of Perkins $5,732 per student to open enroll them or we would have to pay the Sandusky tax rate that is 13.6 mills higher than we currently pay (http://perkinslevy.org/content/s...)

Makes the current 6.73 mill proposal look like quite a deal.

Strong Schools ...

Perkins has great academics. They need improvements in two areas...that does not make the whole district bad. Get the facts on the levy website and vote yes in November!
http://perkinslevy.org/

observer

I don't understand why the people of Sandusky are always talking about merging with Perkins, because the people of Perkins want no part of that.
Anyway, this Perkins situation is a circus, and I'm very glad to see the Head CLOWN getting ready to leave!

gyrocartfluffikins

Well, I'm Perkins born and bred, not Sandusky, so I don't get your point. I think a fine school system could be made in the merger. I'm thinking of all the children of the 44870.

Rosa

Gyro, you are correct, I have 2 children, one graduated from SHS and one gradutated from PHS and both are doing equally well. I am all for merging.

fifteenthgreen

Why not! I agree. Many of the Sandusky students have already merged. Sandusky has the school size needed, as well. Rosa, how many students used to attend SHS in the 70's and 80's? I'm curious. People really don't give that system enough credit. You're going to have problem children in any district. Even combined, it wouldn't be close to the top 20 statewide in school district size!

Bherrle

I have absolutely no problem with Jim applying for the Findlay position. I do not feel betrayed at all. And I do not feel that it detracts at all from the long term objectives the BOE and Jim have been trying the accomplish.

For instance, whether we build new facilities or renovate the current ones, they will be here long after Jim and the current BOE members are gone.

I'm sorry, but the NO Voters are showing that they will complain and be negative no matter what. You want him gone, and then you criticize the fact that he applied somewhere else? How do you explain that rationally?? I can't help but sit back and laugh at the hipocracy being displayed.

I support Jim and the current BOE because of their ideas and plan. Because it's plan is what is best, overall, for everyone, in the long term. It's time to stop thinking short term, and think about the future.

fifteenthgreen

Oh boy, now it's Jim and not Dr. Gunner! Take me to your leader, bherrle. Who is it and why should I give them my vote of confidence? Be a leader and not a follower, Brad!!!

observer

^^^^ I love how he calls them...............Jim.............and..........Terry............like they're his best buddies. Did you guys have a "sleep over" last night?

I tell you, Bherrle, you look more ridiculous with every post!

BTW, it H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y, not........hipocracy. :)

So, you moving to Findlay anytime soon, Bherrle?

bobshumway92

B Hurlllll

Bherrle

Their names are Jim, and Terry. And Brian, and Brad, and Andy, and Matt.

No, we did not have a sleep over, but that's pretty funny.

Thanks for spelling correction, typing fast this morning, I have a lot going on outside of the Sandusky Register Comment world.

No - not moving to Findlay.

themomx6

[quote]Their names are Jim, and Terry. And Brian, and Brad, and Andy, and Matt. [/quote]

Well, you'll need to learn two new names next week! Their names are "Michael" and "J". :)

Wald

Of course Bherrle has no problem with "Jim" applying for the Findlay position, as he blindly follows whatever he's told without question, it seems. And I don't think people are hypocritically criticizing Gunner appyling to Findlay. Rather, it just confirms what most of us who aren't blind already knew...Perkins isn't his main priority. His resume' is.

Strong Schools ...

Vote yes in November
http://perkinslevy.org/

MrGadfly

Bherrle,

The "no' voters are trying to solve an immediate problem (building a school without public approval) to offer a clear path to the future in our community.

With two new school board members and the new superintendent the path presently filled with lies, bullying and distrust can be opened back to moving the school system forward with community support.

With continued "no" votes the majority of the community is using their constitutional rights to direct their school system and remove those who want to take away those rights.

The "no" voters are looking to the future. A future filled with maintaining their voting power on the direction of the school.

fifteenthgreen

MrGadfly....I approve your message.

Strong Schools ...

The No voters just want to complain. The NO voters want us to pay higher taxes by moving back the inside millage. The NO people are uneducated about Perkins schools but try to say they are. Support the students in November and get some pride back in this community. Check out the website for the real facts and disregard the misleading information from the NO voters.

VOTE YES!
http://perkinslevy.org/

oldpirate

No matter how this levy turns out the majority of the no voters on this forum will go back to their self-centered ways and the closest they will get to being involved in community or the school will be to comment about the next challenge dipping into their vacation fund.

Food For Thought

Really? You know nothing about the majority no voters, last time I checked there are more than just the 4 or 5 vocal posters here. I think you look petty and ridiculous saying that because I don't want to pay roughly $1 per square foot in school taxes I don't care about the community. It is people like yourself that sow the seeds of division rather than reaching out to those who oppose your viewpoint.

Strong Schools ...

The no people are ridiculous and can't think beyond themselves.
Vote yes for the students and show them we believe in them. Protect our future!
http://perkinslevy.org/

Wald

What a petty, small-minded comment. It's no wonder you're a levy supporter.

Lil DAB

Nothing self centered about protecting your household income from reckless spending. How and where I choose to spend the money I earn is none of your business either, oldpie. Also you would have NO idea about what volunteer activities, donations or community involvement any of the NO VOTERS or I am involved in. And I would be pretty confident in betting a Happy Meal that any one of us do more than you! Send your levy donation in to the board office. Bet they will appreciate your generosity!
✰VOTE NO✰

Strong Schools ...

Support the students and protect the valuation of our homes! Vote yes in November!
http://perkinslevy.org/

Brick Hamland

All the "No" voters wanted Gunner gone, that was why they voted "no" becasue they didn't like him. Many said, they would vote yes if he was gone... now that he is looking to leave they say vote "no." Isn't that what you wanted? Or is Gunner playing it that he is leaving to swing those votes for the levy... I just hope you No voters realize how underqualified Mr. Ahner is and that putting him in a position of authority is a joke.

fifteenthgreen

Last I checked, he is still employed by the Perkins School District. It will take more than just one person leaving. The entire stink needs to be removed from that administration!

Justme...

Fifteen you are just giving yourself a license to vote no forever. It is not possible to just wipe it all out and start over with a brand new board, and brand new super. After this election, you will want the other 3 to go before you vote yes to any levy. Then maybe one of the two that just got elected will do something you don't like, and you will say, I won't vote yes until that person is gone. You never have the option of wiping out an entire board and starting over.

fifteenthgreen

Correct, Justme!

Hawkeye

I do believe that adding 2 new people to the board will bring a little more balance make it more inclusive of all backgrounds, remember you were new once too.

Food For Thought

Brick, You are aware that when this country was founded the goal was to have average citizens serve the community in elected office. There are no requirements, so he's not qualified why? Because he's young? Because he disagrees with you? Because he's not a "Vice President" at a local company? All someone needs to be qualified is a spirit of service to the community and a willingness to listen to those they serve.

I in no way think that Ahner is a good fit for the boards, but thats because his idea's are really naive. What is wrong with everyone, why can't you disagree without being disparaging?

Brick Hamland

I don't have a problem with the fact that his views are different than mine. No problem, thats what makes this country great. Watch the debate. His answers to the questions... "i don't know, I will look into it, I will figure it out after i am elected," suggest that his not ready for this. He seemed more interested in name dropping his relatives and pointing out that he went to "THE Ohio State University" than answering the questions. Another issue I have is his criminal record in Franklin County Municipal Court. If you are serving on a board for the school it is my personal belief you should not have a criminal record, just my belief- I am not saying that is right or the view of the masses.

Strong Schools ...

Check out the facts and vote yes in November!
http://perkinslevy.org/

nofufucat

Let's see..............we've had folks on the school board that are supposedly qualified and look what a mess they have made. I figure a kid that is wet behind the ears and doesn't know "everything" may just be what the board needs. He has said he realizes he'll have to learn as he goes along but that means he has no intellectual pre-conceived ideas and will figure it out. He's got a good mind and the gumption to run for something he believes in. Good luck to both him and Franklin.

Subtle

I believe that Ahner initially stated he was in favor of considering a merger with Sandusky, a statement that he did a 180 on in the debate at Chet & Matt's. That pretty much cemented my thoughts on his qualifications, as that that is the single worst plan ever conceived, both financially and ideologically.

themomx6

".....voters realize how underqualified Mr. Ahner is and that putting him in a position of authority is a joke."

Yea, well, we tried to tell you the same thing about Obama!

As to us "no" voters now voting "yes" because Gunner might be leaving, why would we? We're voting for or against the levy to build a new school, we don't agree with that, and are waiting until the new board members come up with a better plan, and Gunner is gone. THEN, we'll support a levy.

Justme...

What about a plan you like WITHOUT Gunner being gone? You are giving yourself a license to vote no forever. There will never be 5 sitting board member and a super that you like. So why not vote yes if you like the plan?

fifteenthgreen

Only need the majority on the board (3) and a Superintendent with the community in mind and not himself. Thanks, Justme....

Justme...

Ahh, but momX6 wants a new board, a better plan and a new super. That will take years. Why not just a better plan? If they come up with a plan you like, isn't that what is important? Again...a license to vote no always and forever.

themomx6

No.....read my post again. I said the "new board members" i.e. Franklin and Ahner, not an entire new board, just removing a couple of Gunner mouthpieces, and a new plan, which voting down this levy and getting rid of Gunner will enable/force them to do.

fifteenthgreen

Justme, a "new board" is anything different than what currently exists. I don't care if it is just one voice right now. If that one voice is willing to be a conduit of information to the citizens of Perkins, we'll be on the right path towards resolving our differences. Others are willing to run once this process shakes out a little. As I've said before, the board is a puppet for the superintendent. They do everything they're told and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. That needs to change and a direct line of communication to the public needs to exist. Trust me!

Brick Hamland

I don't think the voters that voted for Obama were concerned about his qualifications, they were more interested in the handouts...

Rosa

What the h--- does this have to do with Obama, people on here are crazy..

Strong Schools ...

Vote yes in November!
http://perkinslevy.org/

Big Poppy

I find it hilarious that Gunner and his cronies and BOE are saying think about the kids. And vote yes. And Boss Hogg Gunner doesn't even want to be at Perkins. Vote NO

Ithink

Can I make a suggestion? Since both school districts are not big fans of either of these two people, let's send Gunner to Findlay and Kurt to Perkins. MHS can then roll the dice- anything will be better than what's there now.

Subtle

I don't understand the no voter's convoluted reasoning here. Are you all telling me that if for instance Perkins High School can be replaced for (using hypothetical numbers here) 20 million and would be in need of very little additional funding for the next 30 years (beyond routine maintenance) or the current problems could be repaired for 15 million, but those fixes will only last at best another 10 years, that you would still prefer to patch up the building?

It's the BOE's job to find the best long term option. It would have bordered criminal to offhandedly decide that repairing the school was the least expensive option to the tax payers over the next 30 years, if it will in fact cost much more to keep repairing it every 10 years.

That's not even considering energy efficiency. There is no instance where a home, office, or school built 30 years ago can be renovated to be as energy efficient as a building constructed today. Any new school building would be roughly 3 times as energy efficient as the existing ones. Three times the efficiency, means 1/3 the cost on a monthly basis to heat/cool/power the facility.

Regardless of who is on the board, it is 5 members who once presented with facts from experts in the fields, attempt to make the best long term decision that will benefit the most people with the least financial impact.

It's like the inside millage, no voters are actually complaining that the inside millage was set up to take the bulk of the support burden off the home owner to be shouldered by industry. How is this even a rational complaint? You would prefer the homeowner shouldered the bulk of the financial burden for the district?

Truth or Dare

WOW, everyone has to start somewhere, don't they? The others running, let alone the present BOE members, where and when did they start and what were their qualifications and what did they know about the position prior to being elected onboard? Might there been a tad bit of "school politics" and cherry-picking that went on?

As for wet behind the ears young Ahner who is a graduate of Ohio State (no small feat there)....don't kid yourselves in thinking he comes in with no pre-conceived ideas. He too is a product of Perkins, born and bred, experiencing the last (ugly) decade (high school anyways) at Perkins and has seen first hand just how things "work"! Best of luck Michael, and that first name basis comes with respect!

Please, someone remind me as to what qualifies Mr. Franklin, another resident, taxpayer w/children in or graduated from the district? His age? Has served in the Military? You know what I found interesting? When reading the full page of supporters for the levy, the names that were missing. Unless of course they were included in the batch of "and many more" that was EXCLUDED.

As for Mr. Gunner and Mr. Kurt applying at Findlay, don't think feathers @ the Polar Bear Den haven't been ruffled! Seems when "troubled waters" come into play, the game of Exchange Supers is played. History is a perfect indicator of that, and I'm sorry, but if you can't make a living off of $100K PLUS a year, a taxpayer funded income, you're living beyond your means.

I find it interesting that the question that is never answered here, is the one as to what the Administrators, BOE's included and all faculty are doing to address the issue at the State level?

ritt

Having only read random comments.......how very, very convenient for this article to run now. The mere thought that he may leave may swing some votes on Tuesday. Wednesday morning, the levy passes and Gunner says "Uhhh ~ changed my mind." The rumors have been that if he couldn't get a levy passed to build his legacy ~ he was going to leave. So ~ now what does one do. You can say its all about the kids as much as you want, till the egos start doing their jobs more thoroughly, the kids are merely pawns. Sad.

goodtime1212

I agree 1000% RITT. "HIS LEGACY". never was about Perkins Twp. or the students. He had already applied for the job and was read to jump ship before he wrote the open letter to the Register. He and the BOE have made a mess and now he is trying to run. NO TRUST, still NO vote

kal-el

The article references the Findlay-Courier. Are you saying that the Findlay-Courier has an interest in who Perkins' superintendent is?

Strong Schools ...

Stay focused on the students because they will be the ones suffering. Vote yes in November!
http://perkinslevy.org/

shucks

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cool ! Just playing.

Hawkeye

I'm confused. I don't remember Ahner or Franklin saying they wanted Gunner gone, and they are no supporters right? I think they were willing to work with him not knowing he was applying for other jobs.

Azure Ray

The superintendent who left Findlay was making $140k/year upon retirement.

Thomas Paine

Vote No because Gunner is staying...Vote No because Gunner has the audacity to look for another job. Who here has ever looked for another job while still working? Vote No because he only applied for another job to deceive YOU. Vote yes if you don't want it to cost more when the next levy request comes in a few months with a higher millage to offset deficit spending. Vote yes if you understand it really doesn't matter who the Superintendent is as long as we have a broken state school funding system. Vote yes if you realize when Gunner leaves a new super will come in and do the EXACT same thing costing us more. VOTE Yes if you understand there is no magic pill that will make the numbers any different. Vote Yes if you do not want to merge with Sandusky or have the state take over at double the millage we currently pay. Vote NO to putting someone right out of college into a board role. Vote NO to putting someone on the board who thinks reducing income and increasing expenses will balance a budget.

fifteenthgreen

Thomas, please retype it with bullet points or something and it actually might be worth reading. As it reads right now it is kind of how the districts whole message has been presented from the beginning........all runs together, changes by the second and makes no sense.

Subtle

You must use very short sentences with very simple words for 15th, TP ;)

Thomas Paine

See bullet points below

fifteenthgreen

Perkins Grad

kal-el

The next Supt and board will come to the same conclusion that Gunner has. If you people are really interested in not paying more taxes you will take this fight to Columbus. They are the ones who have created this broken school funding system. But, please, keep voting for Republican legislators who have done nothing but covertly raise your taxes and put local officials in front of firing squads because they want jobs for life.

Strong Schools ...

A lot of people look for jobs mid year. Vote yes in November and get your Perkins pride back!
http://perkinslevy.org/

Thomas Paine

1. Vote No because Gunner is staying
2. Vote No because Gunner is leaving
3. Vote No because Gunner deceived you by applying for a new job.

These would be you. Notice 1 and 2 contradict each other.

1. Vote Yes if you want to pay less now
2. Vote Yes because it will cost you more later
3. Vote Yes because changing a super now will cost the district more.
4. Vote Yes because money doesn't magically appear without a yes vote.
5. Vote Yes if you don't want a state takeover
6. Vote NO to a 20 something with no experience running a million+ dollar budget

7. Vote NO to board member who balances a budget by cutting income and increasing spending.

(This is the view point of yes voters and those that get school funding)

Hope that clears it up. The school has been consistent with the message. The misstatements on this blog have blurred what No voters believe the truth to be.

(Bullet Point) Do I believe a no voter that quotes the district, or do I believe the actual district and the actual quote. Pretty simple. I believe the source not some anonymous internet blogger.

1. The board feels the buildings are falling apart and we need to plan for the future. (Agree or disagree) Message is the same

2. Keeping up with state and federal mandates without passing a levy in 13 years has eaten away at the contingency fund and we have had to deficit spend with or without a millage move. Levy request will continue to increase each time one fails. (Agree or disagree) Message has been the same.

3. Without a Levy passage the district will run out of money and have to reduce staff, add pay to play, and find creative ways to continue to offer programs to the students. (Agree or disagree) Message has been the same.

fifteenthgreen

"6. Vote NO to a 20 something with no experience running a million+ dollar budget"

Why, so we can have older board members that are more "experienced". What are their credentials? You were a 20 something at some point, as well.

Thomas Paine

Of course I was 20 at some point. I also know now that I would have had no business running a budget this big or would have understood the politics involved that come with this position. I know I would have had a hard time following board rules and guidelines because they didn't make sense to me when I was 20. They make sense now after getting job and life experience. I know he is a good bright kid, and has the potential to be a good board member in the future. He just needs more experience. I applaud him for running (and my guess winning a spot, given the likely outcome of this levy attempt and my belief that voters are voting out of contempt for one person (Gunner) vs. looking at the bigger picture.) I hope he is a very quick learner after throwing himself into a situation like this because all the no voters out there that expect change will turn on him in less than a year when it doesn't happen and gets worse without a levy(which is what the current board has been saying since 2008). I am not sure any 20 year old will be able to handle the venom that will come his way from the no group. That is why I personally cannot vote for someone that young to lead the school district and my children's future education. I also think he is only spitting out what no voters want without offering any substance of not only what will be different but how that will be accomplished. I have yet to hear any substance from no voters that makes any sense concerning what constructive change will be made to push the district forward. Other than with Gunner gone our problems go away. It is my belief the district and how it operates is more than one man.

Brick Hamland

Well said. 10 years from now he may be a good fit. At 24 you odn't have the life experiences that would prepare you for a roll like this, but no voters see him as an alternative to what is there now. For all the no voters that voice concerns I am amazed at how weak the canidates are in this election from the No side.

Cowboy

I just voted NO again! I also voted for Franklin and Ahner! Can't wait to see Gunnie's eyes when he hears that Franklin and Ahner are on the board! That just might be enough for Gunnie to throw in the towel! We can only hope and pray! Time to get this train back on track!

themomx6

[quote]7. ..... balances a budget by cutting income and increasing spending. [/quote]

Oh, yes! The Obama system of government!!! LOL

goodtime1212

Vote NO due to there not being any trust. Weather Gunner stays or go's. Until they come up with a new plan that dose not involve a new school it will always be NO.

Subtle

NONE of the money from this levy will be used to build any new buildings (http://perkinslevy.org/content/n...); but again, I'll ask, since no one from the no campaign answered before: would you seriously want the board to choose to repair the existing buildings EVEN IF it turns out it would be cheaper to build new?? I'm not trying to beat a dead horse, I just can't wrap my head around statements like that.

There is no financial incentive for the BOE to choose to build new over repairing the old if it is not the most cost efficient course of action. As is typical with Boards of Education, they hire engineers, and architects, and independent contractors, and schedule state and health department inspections, have accountants go over cost analysis, have electrical and HVAC specialists provide estimates and recommendations, and then, after analyzing information from multiple experts in each area, attempt to develop a plan that has the LEAST FINANCIAL IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

I have seen no indication that they are building new facilities. They analyzed the prospect of building new facilities. To my knowledge, there has been no final decision made on the subject, but I certainly hope, speaking strictly as a tax payer and home owner here in Perkins, that they choose whichever option is cheaper in the long run.

If renovating the existing facilities is much less expensive, the experts feel such renovations would hold up for a couple decades, and the cost analysis shows that the extra expense of heating, cooling, and powering the existing structure compared to the efficiency of a new building do not negate any savings achieved by renovating; I'd prefer they repair the current buildings.

However, if the experts feel, as I suspect, that the overall cost to repair multitudes of aspects of each of the four buildings over the next 30 years is going to greatly exceed the cost to build a new building that should need nothing beyond occasional routine maintenance; and that the energy efficiency of a new structure would drastically reduce utility/operating costs per month, then I'd be in favor of building new.

Of course, I would assume they would make that decision on a building by building basis. The figures in the following link (http://perkinslevy.org/content/r...)are from 2009, and total apx. 50 million to complete all of the necessary repairs, though those estimates are over 4 years old so I'm sure they are a touch low. From that chart, it looks to me like Furry, Meadowlawn, and Briar MIGHT potentially be candidates for renovation, but I can't imagine there wouldn't be a huge financial loss renovating the HS instead of rebuilding.

You voted no on the campus, and they aren't building a campus... that doesn't mean they shouldn't build new if it is going to be CHEAPER to replace one of the buildings.

It also doesn't mean that you should insist they renovate even if it is going to cost more just to spite them for presenting a plan to the community and asking them to vote on a campus that had 50 million of it's cost supplemented. Punish them for presenting an idea for a community vote. Punish them I say! Even if it costs us more money... >.<

fifteenthgreen

What are your priorities, Perkins BOE?

Asbestos issues in the high school at a minimum should have already been repaired. Why is the board blatantly ignoring asbestos in the tiles and ceilings subjecting our teachers and students to that daily hazard? 2.5 million dollars to remove it and it is still there. Why is the asbestos still in the buildings, Subtle??? This isn't about numbers. This is about what our children are touching and breathing. Why donate 1.7 million to a stadium when 2.5 million would fix this issue, Subtle? Maybe you can wrap your head around this one.

Asbestosis, an inflammatory condition of lungs that can cause shortness of breath, coughing, and eventually scarring of the lungs that makes it hard to breathe.

Mesothelioma, a rare cancer that affects the lining of the lungs, chest cavity, or abdomen.

Lung cancer.

Other lung problems, including pleural plaques (changes in the membranes surrounding the lungs), thickening of the membranes that surround the lungs, and pleural effusions (abnormal collections of fluid between the lungs and the inside wall of the chest.

Studies have also suggested an association between asbestos exposure and other cancers, including cancers of the gastrointestinal tract, throat, kidney, brain, bladder, voice box, gallbladder, and others.

Was a sports stadium more important? Was a 3 million dollar loan more important? Are laptops more important? Keep kicking the can down the road, Perkins until you get your levy passed! In the meantime, our children and teachers are potentially exposed to Asbestos! Fix it now!

Priorities Perkins BOE! You posted this on your levy site. Why haven't the asbestos materials been removed? Because you know if you fix it, you won't have any campaign material!!!! http://www.perkinslevy.org/conte...

Bherrle

15th,

I had posted a response that would apply to the above on the article from last week two days ago. I'll copy and paste it here when I get home later today.

fifteenthgreen

That's ok, Brad. No response can excuse the BOE from not taking immediate action on this potential hazard and threat to our children. In my opinion, legal action should be taken against the district for using funds for matters that don't pertain to the well being of our students and teachers. They don't want to address this, though so they can play the role of a martyr and use it as campaign material. Why else would you film and post on your levy website asbestos laced materials with children's fingerprints embedded in said material. Are you kidding me BOE?

1.7 million donation for stadium vs. 2.5 million to fix potential airborne asbestos particles.

3 million dollar loan vs. airborne asbestos particles.

Laptops vs. airborne asbestos particles.

Bherrle

No, it's not ok . Your twisting and spinning again.

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