West side fire station closed

SFD closes station due to financial situation/manpower
Register
May 10, 2014

 

In a release from the Sandusky fire department...

Fire Station Closed!

Due to the cty’s current financial situation and reduced manpower for the day within the fire department, we are announcing that fire station No. 7, located at 3816 Venice Road will be closed from 7 a.m. on May 9 until 7:00 a.m. on May 10.

Primary fire and EMS apparatus will be responding from fire station No. 1 located at 600 W. Market Street and you can expect an increased response time for incidents on the west side of Sandusky.

For additional information or to voice your concerns, please contact your city commissioners at 419.627.5850.

Click here to find out why the fire station closed

 

Comments

The Answer Person

Can't hurt, can only help the financial plight. No one wants to pay so shut it down.

DEATHnTAXES

Is this a notice or an unpaid political advertisement for more taxes?

Nor'easter

This is to inform you that there are people working to get the commissioners to to what they should have done years ago. Raise the admissions tax and REBUILD SANDUSKY!

topcop1991

If I lived in the west side of town, my rear would be at the next city commission meeting.

JERRY from SANDUSKY

Gather together west Enders fight fight fight for your rights…

Dwight K.

Fight for your rights to call fire department for bogus calls?

A Young Adult's...

Shouldn't have sunk all of that money into the new station downtown. Should have renovated the existing two stations. The financial implications would not have hindered the response time in that case.

stepham2009

What I don't understand is if there is such a financial crisis then why did these same city commissioners just give ALL of the SALARIED employee's RAISES???!!! I think the citizens of this city should flood the next city commissioners meeting and DEMAND ANSWERS!!!!!!

Curley

I agree with Stepham2009 if the city is in such a financial crisis the commissioners should have not given out raises. The commissioners are only making the problem worse by giving out raises. The people on the west side should go down to the next city commission meeting and demand answers. You do not cut the safety forces they protect the citizens of Sandusky. My answer would be cut the fat at the city offices.

wedge1

Standard Politician's MO - U want the public to give U more money, make cuts where it hurts them the most: fire and police safety. I guarantee that a thorough analysis of the city budget would bring areas to lights where the C.o.S. wastes taxpayer money, but the politicians intentionally stifle such conversations. Make the highest profile cuts as possible, the press gives them the most coverage possible, and the public gets frightened into giving the gov't. what they want.
Cleveland did the same thing last year. Cut 40 police officers, but keep the horticultural budget intact, and ignore all requests for comment about said decision.

eightballcuet1

Now we know where the money for these raises is coming from. Just take safety away from the citizens of Sandusky.

MJKSON44

Shutting it down is not the answer. Those people deserve fire protection!!

Licorice Schtick

Everyone does have protection. Some are closer than others. How do you avoid that?

4-wheeler al

Lot of people like me over 60 plus lives on west side. time means life or death. My wife call them one time for me ,took them 5mins. to get here and15mins to hosp. after 10 days in ICU Iam alive and well. thank you station no. 7. Job well done

my oh my

As bad as the situation may seem is the fact there have been and will be times when 7's crew is out on a response either fire or EMS and you will still either have crews possibly responding from 1's or 3's or even mutual aid if available.I am not condoning the city's action(s) in anyway.

sandman312

Maybe city commisioners should forgo their salaries until they can get their act together and put together a balanced budget, that provides adequate public safety services for ALL citizens.

We already don't get regular police patrols on the West end of town because they are always tied up with the trash downtown. Now we lose equal access to Fire/EMS coverage? We actually pay property taxes. The tourists, college kids, and foreign workers near station 3 DO NOT!

RNR

NO! NO! NO! Do not shut down #7!!!! What about the Lutheran memorial home, and Commons of Providence. #7 is essential to the west side! If I die because of response time I'm suing!!!! Find your money elsewhere Sandusky!!! Stop making bad decisions!!!!

Kobayashi Maru

If you die because of response time you won't be able to sue. You will be dead. Just saying.

wedge1

LMAO!! Thank you for pointing out the absurdity of that statement.

goodtime1212

station 7 and station 3 was closed today for a time, station 3 is now open staffed with overtime.

Curley

If station 7 and 3 were closed for a while today and station 3 opened staffed with overtime why wasn't station staffed with overtime people. I agree with RNR #7 runs a lot to either Common of Providence or the Lutheran Memorial Home for rescue runs or maybe the city commissioners do not care about the older folks in Sandusky.

BEHAPPY

Maybe if this town wasn't so full of useless, dumpy rentals there would be more decent people here to help pay so we can keep our firefighters and LE!!! Get rid of some of the TOP DOGS for a change~that's where all of the money is going everywhere~they are ALL OVER paid! I could go on and on~people running this town need to start get it right for a change!

Ralph J.

Didn't Sandusky promise protection to Venice and points west of Sandusky before Sandusky annexed those places west? Broken promise again? Do those people pay Sandusky income taxes on the west side? How about cutting services to Cedar Point Road? OH NO!!
NO WAY!!

YoMamma

Why not farm out the Obama care stuffy nose ambulance runs to the local taxi companies? If you look at the fire numbers most of the calls are PMS runs for the freeloaders that need a lift to the ER for Obama care! We are waisting manpower on useless "emergency" calls.

deertracker

Give it a rest!

Kobayashi Maru

I noticed everyone is blaming the commissioners. The release is from the Fire department. If he's out of money, then he didn't budget correctly or he is allowing too much overtime. If you want to be upset with anyone it sounds like the Fire Chief is to blame.

sandtown-warrior

Too much overtime? Typical lack of knowledge on the subject. They have no OT budget, that was given up in an attempt to prevent layoffs. It's rather hard to run a budget when the chief isn't given any money to utilize to build a budget.

Gardenman

So we close the fire station and give city administrators a salary increase. Guess we know where the priorities are of the leadership. Since these folks got raises maybe we can extend their normal workday to cover the closed fire station.

BEHAPPY

It's rediculous and sickening Gardenman. Time for this nonsense to come to a HALT! Happening everywhere and that's where all the money goes~check out the salaries of admin. everywhere!

sandtown-warrior

They already work 24 hour shifts, what hours exactly do you propose that they extend?!

my oh my

There have been times in the recent past that station(s) have been closed that the public didn't know about....

here in ohio

I don't understand this from what it reads that's only one day ??

we are announcing that Fire Station No. 7, located at 3816 Venice Road will be closed from 7:00am on May 5th until 7:00am on May 6th.

RNR

I am assuming it was a "test run" of how well things went with the fire station closed for a short period of time.

RES

You would assume wrong. Due to a recent retirement the on duty shift yesterday now only has 16 members. With 4 members off with contractual vacation and Kelly days. 1 member off on extended sick and another off on maternity leave, 10 members were on duty. 10 members is below the operating staff necesarry to keep all 3 stations open.

RNR

yeah, thats what you think.... so why dont they rotate closing fire stations, instead of closing the west side each time??

RES

That's what I think?

gene44870

Thats not going to give a true test cause the amount of calls is different from day to day . So if this is the case and they are running a test it isnt going to work .

Perkins Resident

Go to an all volunteer fire department. When I lived in PA that's what we had for a city larger than Sandusky. In fact, I recall most fire departments I came across were volunteer.

RNR

I would volunteer. However, I have one question, was this just a volunteer fire department? Sandusky fire departments run EMS as well, therefore I am not only worried about my house burning more because of response time, but also my family and neighbors health and safety due to longer response times.

Perkins Resident

If I recall correctly, the FD was volunteer and EMS was contracted out. Not sure about the particulars though. Maybe something to look into. Someone like North Central could be made responsible to collect ambulance fees from those that use and also abuse the service. Sandusky could possibly benefit by receiving a percentage of the funds that North Central bills out. Maybe something to look at.

RES

Why get a percentage when you can get it all by providing the service. Why throw away a service the generates income to purchase and maintain apparatus and equipment as well as fund a few positions so that the General Fund doesn't have to provide monies for those things.

Perkins Resident

That went right over your head.

RES

I don't believe so. Why get rid of a service that makes you at least 800k a year. How would a fraction of whatever a private company would make benefit the city? Their fraction I'm sure would be a hell of a lot less than 800k

Perkins Resident

Your overhead is gone. Must not be making too much with having to close a station.

RES

See comment earlier in this story for the explanation of why it closed

RNR

the article states ... Due to the City’s current financial situation and reduced manpower for the day within the Fire Department.

RES

Due to a recent retirement the on duty shift today now only has 16 members. With 4 members off with contractual vacation and Kelly days. 1 member off on extended sick and another off on maternity leave, 10 members are on duty. 10 members is below the operating staff necesarry to keep all 3 stations open.

Comrade Boose

Why are you worried about Sandusky's problems anyway? The fire department in Sandusky does a great job!!

sandtown-warrior

Volunteer? Are you kidding me? Let's see how many "volunteers" there are to respond to the heroin OD that wakes up swinging once their "high" has been taken. If you think response times are increased now, let's add a 4-5 minutes to get to the station, and another 4-5 to respond for a total of at least 10-15 minutes before help arrives. Compare that to the typical 3-4 minute response now, lots of property and life loss is imminent.

xtensionofme

What is closing the station for ONE day going to do?

seth137

The fire station being closed was not to prove anything or show anybody anything. It was simply a matter of not enough staffing due to budget cuts. As far as private EMS, if you look at the cities that use it, most have to pay the company, not receive part of the billing. Also while SFD and the other fire departments in the area have dedicated people staffing ambulances for emergency calls only, private companies make their money on non-emergency transports. In other words North Central may put three ambulances in the city, but two are on out of town trips to Cleveland or wherever, leaving you with one ambulance for the whole city. Not always the best option. Same thing with volunteer departments. Nothing against volunteers, they serve their purpose, but you may get two or you may get ten to respond to a call depending on the time of day. You also then have to add the time for them to respond to the station, adding valuable time to a life or death situation. So you can either pay to have a fire and ems department that is highly trained, staffed 24/7 and ready to respond to your next emergency. Or you can take your chances that a private ambulance is available and not on a trip somewhere or that you have enough volunteers not at work themselves.
Also while station 7 may have a high elderly population, nursing homes and factories, they are also the slowest station. Running approx 15% of the calls SFD responds to, it makes most sense with the overpass now to shut that station down first. If you closed the downtown station or station 3, the trucks from the west side would be out of the area responding to the higher call volume of the east and downtown. Shutting down any station is a bad idea, but its all a roll of the dice and playing the odds once you do

T. A. Schwanger

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@seth137

A question for you.

As a for instance, if fire station #7 is closed for the day due to one fire fighter from the city wide crew being off, for whatever reason, what happens to the rest of the crew working at #7 that particular day?

RES

Tim they are moved down to Station 1.

Rosa

I guess the WRONG people were voted in for commissioners. Where do their loyalties lie??!! Not with the citizens of Sandusky, that is for sure. Take back those raises and get rid of these commissioners asap.

KURTje

Said this waaay before this closing. Many scoffed when decent paying jobs left our area. Stated city services would be "hit." Not too funny now.

WhatTheHeck

The commisioners Meeting is May 12, Monday at 5pm I hope too see all you bloggers there! Remember 6 of our 7 voted against raising the admission tax for Sandusky! Besides closing 7 we have terriable roads too which is hard on our city equipment. Another 3% would take care our roads, infrastructure, and our safety forces.

RNR

I live and work on the west side. I would love to be there, however I work 630am until 8pm that day.

Comrade Boose

For updates on when fire stations are closed like www.facebook.com/RebuildSandusky on facebook they will send you alerts to station closings.

topcop1991

Do you really think that station 3, ( at the end of Cedar Point causeway) will be closed? No way! Too many lives living or working on that end of town. West Siders, it is time for you to stand up and demand services to your area.

Larry

Out of fairness, why don't they alternate closing the east side and the west side firehouses ?

Licorice Schtick

We need more stations, not fewer. Everyone deserves to be within six blocks of a fire station! That would be, um, how many stations? Wait. What?

Comrade Boose

Although you are trying to be a smart a$$ about this subject you are right we need more stations based on the increase in calls over the past few years. In the mean time if you or anyone else in the city wants to know when stations are closed go to www.Facebook.com/RebuildSandusky like the page and they will send you an alert.

GoBigLex2001

Time for Volunteers!

Comrade Boose

1. There are no such things as volunteers
2. You had a service that was and still is A plus
3. The commissioners caused this problem not the fire department
4. Wanna make a difference go to www.facebook.com/RebuildSandusky like the page and learn how to make a real difference

GoBigLex2001

Um actually there is a such thing as Volunteer Firefighters. Look at neighboring communities.

Comrade Boose

Um the one volunteer department in the area responds to approximately 100 calls a year the city of Sandusky fire department does that many in about a week. So that being said if that so called volunteer department averaged 100 calls a week how long would they be volunteers not very long.

YouMustBeJoking

Is it really "RebuildSanusky"? Wouldn't it be a little more effective if "Sandusky" was spelled correct?

Comrade Boose

Must be Rebuild Sandusky that's where it takes you when you click on the link. A committee for passing a ballot initiative this fall for a 3% admission tax increase to help provide essential city services is what it says.

WhatTheHeck

This 3 per cent tax increase is on the visitors, not us tax payers!

GoBigLex2001

Par for the course in Sandusky. Must be a product of Sandusky Local Schools....lol

gene44870

Yea and you can see that the city didnt close the one at the opening to cedar point . Everything that seems to get done you can bet its giing to be with cedar point and not the residents in mind . See where your hard erned tax dollars are going ?

gene44870

This is just what I am thinking . The city neefs to stop thinking short term and start thinking long term . And relying on Cedar Point tax dollars and a very few factory jobs that are atill here are in no way going to keep a city in the black . Yes it is nice to have the Cedar Point tax dollars coming in the few months that they are . But the fact of the matter is we need to get factories back in the area that can increase the tax base that the city needs to keep this city up and in the black This is whats going to keep police and fire dept open and give the residents some tax money back in there pockets

JT Adams St

Actually, increasing the admissions tax is a way to keep the city in the black. A 3% increase in the admissions tax could generate $2.5 million in extra revenue for the city starting next year, and $2.5 million every year after that. Yes, the city should try to attract manufacturing jobs to the area. But that's a long-term project. In the meantime, it should avail itself of the resource it has - millions of tourists. If you go to Cleveland to attend a baseball game, you pay an 8% admissions tax. If you go to Macy's to buy a shirt, you pay a 7% plus sales tax. There's no reason why Sandusky shouldn't collect a 6% admissions tax.

Nor'easter

Cedar Point has relied on the city resident's Taxes to supply a priority traffic route while streets haven't been addressed in 50 years in Venice Heights. Water and Sewage treatment was expanded to over 10 times the residents needs while Buchanan St and Pierce St haven't been repaved since the 1960's. Overpass was built in 1968, redesigned for 2 lanes to Cedar Point and Hancock St still has potholes exposing Street car rails and bricks. If you talk to the tourists, they will tell you that they are more than willing to pay an additional 5% in admissions tax to be able to avoid damage to their cars and ruined vacations as the broken suspensions cancel their planned stay in order to pay the car repairs. The condition of the streets should embarrass the commissioners. They are supposed to serve the citizens that elected them.

Dwight K.

I have an idea. How about noone have a fire or medical emergency. Boom problem solved :)

Truth or Dare

As I sit here, listening to trains slowly moving along, and reading this, it reminds me of the day I spent about 4 hrs. cleaning up the southwest corner (on the north side of the tracks) on Old's St a couple of Mondays ago. Within the first 45 minutes, from 10 a.m. to 10:45 a.m. I counted 7 east/west bound trains, 2 slow moving Triple Crown Trains and 1 slow moving coal train, so you can tack on a definite 5 minutes easy for a coal train, which cuts off everyone living and doing business west of the coal tracks on W. Monroe and Edgewater, increasing an already increased response time from about 7 min. to a possible 12. Am I off there Comrade Boose?

Let's see, on the west side of the coal tracks there are homes, businesses, homes, a park with a splash pad and beach of which you swim AT YOUR OWN RISK, which needs some sand dumped, homes, the Erie County Health Dept., homes, businesses such as Tsubaki, the Sandusky Marina and boat storage, factories, homes, and our very own City Services. Guess it's been a while since anyone from the city (other then laborers) has traveled further then Lions Park? It would serve them well to learn that there are those that have invested in their homes/property and have lived within this neighborhood for decades and there are those from out of town that have purchased homes and the dilapidated property next to them to make fresh and new and spend their Summers here, their retirement, and all just a football throw from Sandusky Bay. I'll be sure to inform the new local and out of town neighbors of their closest Fire House closing.

Fire House #7 closes, and folks get raises, and there is talk of downsizing Commissioners, then they get a raise? I voted issues only, will continue to do so and will work towards the Admission Tax being raised and hopefully going to a Ward System. If there are folks of like mind out there, willing to be supportive, please take the time to attend the City Commission Meeting this Monday, May 12th. @ 5p.m. No big deal if you arrive late. Should there be but a couple of folks from the west end, I'll take it you all don't care to much about having to figure out who your First Responder is going to be should there be a fire or medical emergency! Hint: YOU, as long as you're able bodied, have a vehicle and can drive! My sis and I actually laughed our arses off discussing what they would find her doing to save her home. Which by the way will take at least 12 minutes to get to her place from #1. We're all basically forced to be our very own First Responders! Volunteers of sort! Keep in mind, trains block the Police as well Fire and EMT!

Darkhorse

Station 5 has been closed before and no one put it up on the Register site. The city needs to put a disclaimer on the closings, trying to sell us on a tax increase. People have been spoiled in the past with expected services and now that we have the station shut down for one or two days, the sky is falling.

WhatTheHeck

First of all it is #7 closed, not #5. It is not a tax increase on the residents of Sandusky, it is on admission tax. This is the point, so us city residents do not pay. You pay it when you go to a Indians, browns, a concert, and ect. Read the article and meet me at city boilding Monday, May 12 at 5pm. Looking for donations to raffle off, if you Darkhorse would like to donate or better yet get on the committee to Rebuild Sandusky.

Comrade Boose

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sandtown-warrior

Volunteer? Are you kidding me? Let's see how many "volunteers" there are to respond to the heroin OD that wakes up swinging once their "high" has been taken. If you think response times are increased now, let's add a 4-5 minutes to get to the station, and another 4-5 to respond for a total of at least 10-15 minutes before help arrives. Compare that to the typical 3-4 minute response now, lots of property and life loss is imminent.

topcop1991

How many of you ney sayers have the balls to run into a burning building to save someone? It is so easy to set here without putting your name to it, and make stupid comments. I am getting sick of seeing people comment on something they have no knowledge of. Get a life!

gene44870

I said it three years ago snd I will say it again . The city is holding public safety hostage cause it voted down a tax levey and now they are still holding the safety hostage cause the tax payers said no knew taxes .
I have to wonder if maybe the residentz tax payers of Sandusky should stop hiding behind there key boards and pick up a pickit sighn and go xown for the next meeting . Let the people on the commission know they can and will be replaced if zomething is not done . I still hold the city rezponsable for the death of one of Sanduskys finist officerz xue to thd lack of support through lay offs and retirements .Get with it Sandusky before something else goes wrong.

davidb

The westend is the forgotten end of town. This is not surprising too US. We all knew,as soon as the overpass was finished,this would happen.

Comrade Boose

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JERRY from SANDUSKY

As far as I'm concerned the Westside is Venice not Sandusky

JERRY from SANDUSKY

It's time to move to the country townships take better care of the roads then Sandusky so does the state better than Sandusky.

sugar

This is how government punishes it's constituents when they refuse a tax increase. How dare we not give them more of our money. From the Federal on down, it is all corrupt.

Comrade Boose

Seems Sandusky Register is no longer posting station closing alerts.

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