Ard fires 2 cops; looks for new handler for 'Justice'

The following is a statement from Nicole Ard regarding her recent decision to dismiss two Sandusky police officers.
Anonymous
May 1, 2012

The following is a statement from Nicole Ard regarding her recent decision to dismiss two Sandusky police officers.

RE recent police personnel matter (Smith & Ritterbach)

"This was an unfortunate situation. I wish both gentlemen well in their future endeavors. The FOP Union representative has indicated that both former employees will be pursing arbitration of their April 27, 2012 dismissal. Out of respect to both men and their families, and the potential arbitration, additional comment regarding their employment or dismissal would not be appropriate. 

"The City and Police Department are moving forward.  Justice, our crime-fighting canine officer, will continue to be housed with a trainer. Originally purchased via grants and supported by community donations, Justice will be receiving on-going training to keep his skills sharp. Since Justice is extremely mission-oriented in finding drugs and criminals, and is not as friendly as other dogs, Justice cannot be adopted or "fostered" by a non-trained person.

"Existing staff will be evaluated for potential assignment as Justice's partner.  Once selected, the training is rigorous. Justice deserves the best as we use and continue to develop his skills to keep him, our staff, and our community safe. This will be Justice's third human partner. The City must provide Justice with a good partner and good quality of life in return for his service to the City. In the interim, K-9 support will continue to be offered by other agencies." 

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Comments

DGMutley

Let's see, we investigate their personal lives and sex lives, find nothing illegal so we give the details to the media for the court of public opinion, and then have the nerve to fire them for behavior not becoming an officer?  Sorry, seems a little underhanded to me.

sanduskysteve

DG - again, I'll say - threatening to shoot another officer is not illegal?? 

And you stated that what they were doing is not illegal.  Makes me think about the Norwalk school teacher.  There was nothing illegal going on there either, but they still manged to make a big deal out of it as well as obtain an illegal search warrant and now going to file charges against her based on an illegal search.  What makes you believe that a police officer should be treated any differently than those whom are not in the public employment?  And why should they be allowed to do things that don't apply to them?

One other thing I forgot to mention - the officers were not being "completely honest" during the investigation - unfortunately, that was enough in and of itself to remove Kim from her position - why should the officers at SPD be held to a different level of honesty?

Doesn't make sense to me.  You're argument fails on many sides.

 

 

DGMutley

You are a SPD antagonist.  I stand by my statement.  Prove me wrong.

Tru Grit

@DGMutley

The details that were given to the public would have never gotten to the public if these two men would have taken care of it like men and not like children. So don't even try to blame the media or public on that, it rest solely on the those two men. They were fired because they lied, threatened a fellow officer, were insubordinate, and a couple other things from the other article about them being fired. What is underhanded is that these guys got to sit on paid leave while the slow city and moron's in charge down at SPD tried to figure this cut and dry problem out. I am sure like "beentheredonethat" you are friends either with the cops fired or friends of a cop and just have this whole thing against the paper now. Like it was said before by many people don't blame SR, blame the guy's doing the dumb s*** and acting like a bunch of foolish teenager's.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fireside

Just cleaning up the SPD...In memory of

dig this

   Does anyone in Sandusky respect the police? Times up!

Erie County Resident

Pretty sad when a police dog that normally has a short career outlast 2 going on 3 handlers.

Not a very good statement on the affairs (no pun intended) of the departments condition.

sanduskysteve

tru grit - thank you - I think everyone here is in agreement with you and I on most of this - there are only a select few who, as you said, must be friends with a cop or one of the cops in trouble.  If I recall correctly, DG was upset about the firing of the part-time drunk cop who can't drive and then leaves the scene of accidents and expected to be a full-time cop with a suspended license no less.  And, let not forget about the other cop who lied (yes, another fine upstanding, dis-honest officer of SPD) who now has the city attempting to defend themselves because that stupid ignorant union (also couldn't follow proceedures properly) arbitrator has demanded they take him back.  Can't wait to see the outcome of that one.

One thing for sure, the city will win the first arbitrator's demands, and I'm sure this one won't get too far either.  I had serious doubts about this Ms. Ard person, but as time moves forward, she is finally catching up to things and if she continues, she may very well get control of that "dishonest" police department - and Lang as well.

I still stand on my suggestion the city needs to fire Sams before he starts retirement to prevent more wasted city money from being spent.

If you stand back and examine things, you'll find those in charge who are still doing stupid things are the same ones that didn't want Kim fixing the problems at SPD.  Funny how that happens huh?

sanduskysteve

Erie County Resident - maybe you shouldn't bring that comment to light - the cops will start blaming the dog on their inability to act like adults and actually do their jobs.  Although you are right on the money in what you said.

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The tt

I've seen the City Manager.  Justice isn't the only one who looks like he needs a handler.

wiredmama222

TT........really, I have seen her, also.  I would venture to say I have not seen you.  But if you are any better looking then reveal yourself with a  TRUE picture before casting stones on another right here on this site. Otherwise shut up. That really wasn't necessary and pretty degrading.  Would you say that if she were a  man????? 

DGMutley

To the dynamic duo,

What I said happened is what happened.  You may not like it. You can make stuff up, say whatever you want to say, but it remains that 38 pages of lovers' triangle got forwarded  to the Erie County Sheriff in an attempt to find wrongdoing.  The Sheriff found nothing so the dept sends all 38 pages  to the media to stoke the court of public opinion, in violation of the contract.   Tuesday's front page headline in the Register says it all, "SPD LOVE TRIANGLE (in red), City fires two cops".   You may be comfortable with this being in arbitration to limit the city's liability but that doesn't mean these two officers can't sue the city.  I also think that they have a discrimination case they can pursue through the EEOC.    
wiredmama222

@DGMutley.....every time you and Been there done that open your mouths about the SPD and the SR you prove EVERYONE ones point right but your OWN. 

It would do you both good to be still and not say a thing more since you have both put your feet into it about up to the hip now. 

You cannot win a battle of wits with an unarmed man, gentleman. ( I am talking to Sanduskysteve and True grit).  The two of them do not listen nor do they comprehend).  They are both blinded by anger and fear.  You are right about the SS.  They are either current or ex cops....I think one of them may be Sams.....and they are fearful of what is to come or about to come.  Neither can take the heat nor get out of the kitchen and they do not know what to do.  They see their friends going down in defeat and it is killing them inch by inch.  But you reap what you sow and that is what they did not see coming. 

Good job guys.  You are both, Sanduskysteve and TGrit, an honor to the City of Sandusky and to the human race.  Honorable men in the face of bigotted liars and terrible people who would uphold those who are. 

DGMutley

To wiredmama222,

You can insult me all you like just reread message.
Tru Grit

@weirdmama222,

Thank you for your kind words it is greatly appreciated. I am times talk out of my butt with some things on this site, but when I do put some and emtions into a post I feel like I am un-biased and honest. DGmutley and beentheredonethat, whether friends, actual cops, or just people with a chip on their shoulder to protect the men for making very poor life choices do still not see the point of all this. No one is casting a judgement on these men because of them being police officers. The judgement comes and now is the the time to read carefully DG BTDT, they brought a non-work conflict into work. They could not resolve this outside of work and brought it into work. This becomes work related if you ask me. Whether it was 38 pages or 2 pages it was document material needed to determine the whole situation. These men were good cops, no one is going to deny that, but they made the choice to not be men and to be little boys and let this get into there work and it ultimately cost them their jobs. These guys let a love triangle control their thoughts and actions. It may be personal to them, but when you bring it in the work place, make it a problem for everyone in the department you have a serious problem. The SR found out about it, did was a paper should do, inform the people and they did. I don't always agree with the SR on their conduct of writing and position but that's reality if you don't like it read one of the following instead. Lorain Journal, Norwalk Reflector, Columbus Dispatch, etc, etc. Serious problems are happening at the SPD, the guys and girls doing their job have no worries, but the ones not and they know who they are. A time will come when they meet their maker and have to answer for whatever they have done. By the way as someone that has been arrested before and knows what it is like to feel ashamed about your self for making a poor choice the police that dealt with me were respectful and one actually sat in my holding cell with me and gave me inspiration that people can make a poor choice, but they can always make up for it.

 

I have friends who work for both the SPD and PPD. I am all for the police in this town. If you ask me, we need more of them. I go to places like "The Pump" great place but the conduct that goes down their and many other bars and places in this town has gotten worse and the amount of crime is just unbelievable. I read the daily log everyday and I am seeing kid 9-16 geting disorderly conducts, unruly, you name it. I see kids 18-25 getting OVI, DUI, posession, abuse, domestic's. I don't know whether it is parenting or kids just not caring about the choices they make. Minimal amount of kids these days want to put forth an effort and its just sad. I was at the pump last night shooting pool hanging out with a friend of mine who lives in Columbus and sure enough by about 1:30 a fight broke out and they shut the bar down, that's just one bar in sandusky with many.

wiredmama222

@true grit....you are every so welcome.  I meant every word of it.   (maybe I should change my name to weirdmama222 as most people think I am anyway.....lololol)  

wiredmama222

DG Mutley......I have no intention of insulting you PERSONALLY, it is your ideas for which I have no use. 

First of all, when you fail to even take into account ANY of the other people's points of view but your own, you are lost before you start.  Many of us have taken into account that perhaps these two may have had a right to be upset....but you do NOT bring your personal life to work.....never. 

Firstly, professional people just do not do that.  I would think you would understand that. 

Secondly, if you are having an affair with a co workers wife, you would not handle it in the manner in which this guy did.  Come on, are they in high school? 

Thirdly, when is lying EVER correct? 

Fourthly....these guys are supposed to be filled with the stuff that heros are made of.....where is that honor now?  One threatens to kill the other, one is a liar.  I don't call that hero at all. 

So you see, you have closed your eyes to what most of us see and expect us to forget all that and see only what YOU want us to see and believe. 

How can we do that when there is so much evidence to the contrary?   It isn't all of us that is having the problem here. 

I didn't mean to insult you presonally at all, just what you are trying to do.....to change a collective mind-set that sees the truth.  With your point of view that isn't making sense, it isn't right..  Why would you want to do that?  When something doesn't make sense, you tend to dismiss it for what it is.....false!  You cannot blame the SR for printing the facts as they are.  And that is what is upsetting you and your friend.  You cannot do that either.  Why would you want to try? 

dig this

   Ard made the right decision to fire them.  Why did Sams take cover back in Huron? If you look at Sams real close he resembles ET.

007

Na Sam's looks like the kid at the beginning of the movie Deliverance playing the banjo.

turner915

Look, Judge, Lawyer, Officer. Cook, baker, candlestick-maker.  Each has a right to their personal lives. When they cross the line in to LEGALITIES of their job, yes, they should be held to the peramiters that meet their job policies. The managing or responsible person should handle that employee as determined by their forset rules.  I do believe that putting forth the personal issues that should stay inside of particular departments as to not tarnish the integrity of a "whole" should stay so. A gang mentality errupts EVERYTIME  you "soap-opera"-like put out information that creates a vision that one bad apple ruined the whole bushel. I would like to see re-structure, yes. But I also would like to know that the SPD that I CAN count on doesn't have such low moral support  it creates a levell of  apathy. I don't think that has ever been a problem, but I'm sure that it has opportunity when everyone wants to be the SHERIFF and decde how things should be done! I happen to believe that the city is to blame not the SPD!

turner915

And before anyone jumps on this...I am NOT a friend, relative or affiliate of a Judge, Lawyer, Officer, Cook, Baker or Candlestick Maker!!  Ok, well I know a bunch of cooks.....but other than that.....shiz!

DGMutley

These officers committed no crimes by being involved in a love triangle.

This is a personal, personnel, human resource issue that should have been handled by Chief Lang, privately, in a human resource manner, without press, and without termination.

In my opinion all the terminations under Chief Lang's watch fall into the same boat. You don't terminate a police officer for chewing tobacco. You don't terminate a police officer for needing time off for his family problems. You don't terminate a police officer for taking a piss. You don't terminate a police officer for getting traffic ticket when your Asst. Police Chief gives him a recommendation to be hired.

turner915

@ DG

You are quite right...they commited NO crime in their relationships. No one but the triangle should've have known, When ONE out of the three decided to relate this dumb a$$ attack to a Superior...that's when the WHOLE THING  should've just been FACEBOOK! THat's the stupid decision on that particular officer. However when the investigation was interred to the department, it should've stayed there. I would've been just fine knowing that two officers had lost their jobs regarding misconduct and inability to perform within the department. I didn't need to know all of the personal rhethoric. No one needed to know that with the exception of the ignorant gossips that want to parlay this situation ino the whole department. I would like to see people to quit knocking the SPD and see that everything is an individual concept. The City of Sandusky needs to take the reigns, step up and make this place a better place to live. It's hilarious when I hear them talk about a VACATION town or a place to be??  When I can't leave my pop on the porch anymore..........it's not the place to be!!

sanduskysteve

Both of you are wrong, once again.  The triangle was brought to work with threats to each other, it is against policy to use tobacco during work hours, and so absolutely, you should be fired to chewing on the job, taking a piss is not illegal, doing it in the open public and turning off a dash cam so not to be seen doing it, however IS illegal.  Getting a traffic ticket is not something you should get fired for, however, attempting to leave the scene of an accident, especially where alcohol is involved and getting a license suspended for a year, DOES disqualify you as a police officer, especially if you attempt to get it covered up by a friend who is in charge of the SPD.

There are issues with each of those cases you mentioned and they deserve to be fired.  You two are unbelievably wrong and the majority of posters here agree that you are and apparently Ard does as well.

 

turner915

@sanduskysteve

When you say both of you are wrong? So which 1000 bloggers do you speak of?  I was regarding the article at hand not spitting  or pissing..which you are very concerned about.

 

turner915

I could almost expect SandukySteve has NEVER been in trouble for ANYTHING!! OOOps I was wrong!

turner915

@sanscrewy steve

When did I disagree with Ard? You are just one of those "citizens' I spoke about that require ALL the insides because your life is so boring, you need more!

DGMutley

Well, sanduskysteve, you can run your fantasy police dept anyway you like. I hate to be the one to tell you that it is crumbling right before your eyes. I wonder why? In my humble opinion you need to look no farther than yourself. You aren't there for your men.

FruGalSpender

"Na Sam's looks like the kid at the beginning of the movie Deliverance playing the banjo."  i just had to check out this statement. i think that there is a strong resemblance 007. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=myhnAZFR1po who is that hilljack clogging in the movie?

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