Off-duty Pennsylvania cop arrested

Man drinks at Milan Road bar while carrying gun
Courtney Astolfi
Mar 22, 2014

 

An off-duty Pennsylvania police officer was arrested Friday after he carried his gun into a Milan Road bar while he’d been drinking, police said.

Lee Bartolicius, 21, of Butler, Pa., was arrested for using weapons while intoxicated just after midnight Friday.

Bartolicius and his relatives were at Kalahari Resorts to celebrate his cousin’s 21st birthday Thursday evening, and they decided to head to Cheers in the Sandusky Mall later that night, according to a Perkins police report.

At Cheers, Bartolicius went into anaphylactic shock, likely triggered by dairy in one of his drinks. He called Perkins Township paramedics and asked for a police officer, knowing he had a loaded, holstered Glock on his hip, the report said.

Officers seized the weapon when they arrived at the mall, and informed him it was illegal to carry a gun in Ohio while drinking, the report said.

An apologetic Bartolicius told officers the act is not illegal in his home state, and he’d brought the gun with him because he was in an unfamiliar area.

His blood-alcohol content registered 0.077 percent, the report said.

Bartolicius was treated at Firelands Regional Medical Center, then taken to the Erie County jail.

He was later released on about $3,000 bond.

Comments

sandusky2012

what happened to that perkins cop who wanted to go to work drunk with her weapon. or them cops who drink while carrying

phroggy

There has to be more to the story or are Perkins cops really that big of pricks to arrest one of their brothers?

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WinstonSmith

One of their brothers!? You coward cops and your thug-blue-line gang is being exposed for what you really are... Coward thug criminals who think their badge grants them extra rights. That ship has sailed buddy, and you better get used to it. Police should be held to a higher level of accountability, not less.

Mew08

Really? "You coward cops and your thug blue line gang" I sincerely hope you never need the assistance of one of these "cowards" you speak of.. Since those who speak bad of the police are the first to call them.. You're an idiot, Winston smith.

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WinstonSmith

Yeah, like anyone has ever been 'helped' by police... Police come after you need help to collect evidence so the state can collect revenue. Not only does the victim not EVER get protected, the victim is NEVER is made whole again by the 'just-us' system.
I may be an idiot, but you are a sheep and I'd rather be a free idiot than a slave sheep.

mikeylikesit

tell it winston smith!

Morningbreezes1

Wow! WinstonSmith... Got a little anger issue going on ?? I for one think that they should have given him a break. He wasn't " drunk" And he didn't know the law. How many of your thug buddies have been out drinking with a loaded weapon?? I bet more than you're willing to admit.

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WinstonSmith

Me or my thug buddies don't wear silly costumes pretending that we are allowed to use force on people. Police are the only thugs in town that don't think they're thugs.... News Flash! Police are the largest street gang in Sandusky.

phroggy

I'm afraid that you are mistaken, sir or madame. The man did not commit a heinous crime to warrant an arrest. You are obviously ignorant to how the world really works.

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WinstonSmith

What's good for the goose is also good for the gander... Silly costume and F.O.P sticker or no silly costume and F.O.P sticker.
If they'd charge a non-gang member, then a fellow gang member should be charged as well.
All cops are bad, all of them... Even the one's that don't commit felonies, but they provide a valuable service for their criminal counterparts... They cover it up. That's called accessory after the fact, and for a non thug-blue-line citizen you go to prison.

deertracker

PREACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mikeylikesit

amen! amen!!

Ithink

I LOVE IT!! Finally someone has the nerve to tell it like it is. These area cops drink and drive more than anyone I know. Watch for the swimming parties this summer at the Castalia home of a Sandusky officer, where many of the guests are fellow police buddies. Pictures of drunken beer-fests are posted on Facebook--then these upstanding citizens drive home!

beepx22

So if I'm drinking in cheers (posted no gun signs) while carrying a gun (violation of the CCW laws) I should get off too right?

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WinstonSmith

Do you have a magical costume that you pin an ounce of tin to? If you do that means the oath to the brotherhood trumps their oath to the constitution so you should get away with anything you want.

beepx22

Nope no magic costume. Dang I guess I'm beholden to the law

bondgirlM

I can't believe they would arrest him. GEEZ!!!! I have a new "respect" for Perkins Police, NOT!

yea right

well Perkins cops are D**B.. i put one such "cop" in their place about 2 months ago..hahaha

DGMutley

You're on shaky ground. Why ask for it?

Nor'easter

This just shows the folly of attempting to control guns. Calls for medical emergency and we try to criminalize civilized behavior. Drop charges and apologize for harassing person with health problem. If he hadn't told he was an out of state officer that was legally carrying by the laws of his state's laws, there would not even be an issue. He was not impaired, but he was harassed.

GoBigLex2001

He of all people should know that you need to abide by the laws of the local jurisdiction and state. Just because you go to another state does not mean your home state laws come with you. Dumb move dude. Good for Perkins PD for arresting him. If it were me and I were drinking while armed, I would expect the same thing to happen. NEVER drink while armed.

DickTracey

There is no excuse, ESPECIALLY when your a cop, to say he didn't know Ohio Law. It's an easy google search on his phone while he was driving up here.

I'd say someone in the bar saw the gun and warned him, and he made the phone call, thinking the local cops would extend courtesy.

If no one saw the gun, how did he know in advance, that he was in trouble? If no one saw it, he could have given it to one of his friends to take out and throw in the trunk, before the ambulance got there.

Having said that, what kind of pus$y needs a gun in a Mall sports bar?

I've been in the back woods of Pennsyvania in dive bars that don't even take credit cards and I have more teeth than every one in there combined and I never once thought to carry.

Alpha Dog

The law is the Law, no discrimination here. If I go to another state, I educate my self on what I can and cannot do!
No one should consume alcohol and carry a weapon, no one!!!!!

SamAdams

Gun laws vary from state to state. The average gun owner knows that. How could the average cop NOT know that?

I respect that the man requested a police officer along with the medical aid since it's better to be safe than sorry. There's no question he did the right thing THERE! But once the local police knew he'd broken Ohio law, it doesn't matter whether you, I, or they agree with that law. The only thing to do is to charge him with the crime he committed.

It's entirely possible he'll get off with a warning or a slap on the wrist. Since no trouble was caused, since there was no criminal intent, and since he now knows for sure what at least ONE gun law in Ohio prohibits, I'd be okay with that. What I WOULDN'T be okay with is if the Perkins Police treated him differently than they would you or me just because he happens to be a cop somewhere.

P.S. Lots of people who carry concealed do so on a regular basis. It's not a question of whether or not you go somewhere that you think you might NEED to be armed. I doubt diners at Luby's Cafeteria thought they needed to be armed, either! Criminals are often successful not because they confine themselves to "bad" areas, but because they DON'T. Regardless of your skills or your mindset, however, you still can't carry where it's prohibited without breaking the law yourself.

Restless1

Sam: That's the first sensible post of all the comments above.

Tru Grit

When I read the comments on here my first thought was how do such moronic and dumb people even have access to the Internet. I then remembered Obama gives out basically free cell phones and the Sandusky Library has Internet access and I answered my own question.

It's sad that people have such a hate for LE and even worse hate for the good ones, because yes being one my self there are good ones and dirty ones. People like Winston while he could be a law abiding citizen who just has a taste for bashing LE, I just think he has been on the wrong side of the law so many times he is not only biased but has a hatred for them. It happens that's life, some people rape kids, some people rob banks, Winston in his own way broke laws and had to deal with the police, he is some definition is a criminal I get it, but don't be biased about it.

Sounds like this young cop because 21 is young for being a cop made a poor choice and hopefully he learns from it. I also think Perkins PD did the right thing. It didn't matter that he was a fellow LEO, he broke the law an was held accountable for his actions, plain and simple.

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WinstonSmith

Nice attempt at deflection PUBLIC SERVANT... How about this angle:
I'm the beneficiary in this equation. You, public servant, are the trustee and are to abide by the will of the holder of the equity (the beneficiary). I, among a majority of the equity holders, are not happy with the less than quality service you provide PUBLIC SERVANT, but there are no obvious alternatives being you operate under a monopoly.
And before you accuse me of stealing girl scout cookies, or masturbating with a preteen, or being supported by Obama you might want to take a 2nd glance at your paycheck bub. The only difference between a welfare check and your paycheck is you are brainwashed enough to believe you earned it.

And concerning your mythical 'good cop'... Why are there not regular news stories everyday about a good cop arresting another cop from his department for a felony?
I'll tell you why, and I know this first hand.... Those cops who would turn on their felonious 'brothers' end up being sent on a call where they need backup and backup never comes.

slightthroat212

Mr. Smith, despite your feelings that all cops are bad, they are not. Not ALL cops are bad any more than all people arrested have done the crime. To lump everyone together like that is just not so. Some people are worse than others and to make such a broad statement is not only unfair it is unjust as saying that every person being arrested should automatically go to jail.

You said in one post that the police don't protect the innocent...that isn't true either. They have helped my brother and his wife out a couple of times in their home ( I know that for a FACT) and rightfully so. So you will never convince me that ALL of the SPD is corrupt, on the take or drunks. They aren't. A few have been and are gone now if I am not mistaken and you want to beat the entire department up for what they have done. Unfair again. Should the entire city of Sandusky be beat up for people like Dunn's killer or others? I don't think so. So why lump everyone together? It would be JUST as unfair. You can't do that.

It sounds like you have a PERSONAL axe to grind against cops for some reason and that is on you and no one else, so if you know for sure that some cop is bad and can prove it, turn them in. They deserve to go to jail, but don't do it by innuendo and general complaints on all of them. There is a thing called citizens arrest. If you see a cop driving drunk , call the cops on him and file a citizens arrest complaint. They can't wiggle out of it then. You got them dead to rights.

You should be applauding the Perkins PD for what they did here which was the right thing to do. Instead of complaining about them. They did what was right, not what was popular. And don't think when that young man goes home he won't have to answer to his own captain either. I am sure he will.

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WinstonSmith

I'll bet the farm the cop(s) that helped your brother and his wife have watched fellow cop(s) commit a felony and did nothing about it.
All cops are bad and you will not convince me (or anyone that understands what police really are)otherwise until you can point to an example of a cop arresting another cop (from his own department) for a felony.

topcop1991

Better idea, if you are going to be out drinking, leave the gun home, or someplace safe. Common sense goes a long way here. I see he is 21 yrs young, which tells me he is a rookie, making rookie mistakes. Probably will never make it as an Officer unless he wises up.

Good 2 B Me

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. That is exaclty what they would tell you and I if we did that!

candleburner

I don't know for absolute certainty but I'm about 99% sure that on all the doors of the mall there's stickers stating what you can or can't bring in (ie. animals, handguns, etc.) I mean I know it's possible to overlook things like that when you're just walking in but if I remember right these stickers are fairly good sized circles on the doors and someone would have noticed a gun with a restriction circle wrapped around it and you would think someone in his party would have mentioned it to him. I don't know that while suffering from anaphylaxis is the proper time to charge him with carrying a gun inside a bar though. That could have severely jeopardized his life, wait till he's in a more stable condition and then take care of business.

beepx22

The mall isn't posted but cheers had a large no gun sign. Obviously they should fire the sign

DickTracey

I was 99% sure that Cheers has at least two signs, and one on the door, hard to miss, but I didn't want to post that last night because I wasn't 100% sure.

holysee

TAX THE CHURCHES

downthemiddle

The REAL issue is why anyone feels the need to have a gun with them in an everyday situation, like going to the grocery store.

People like that are usually making up for some shortcoming or other inadequacy. Do you REALLY feel safer knowing that the person in the checkout line next to you has a gun?

Tru Grit

Mr Smith, you may call me whatever you want. We're all servants in a way unless you don't have to work. Hopefully you don't ever need a police officer.

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WinstonSmith

Why don't you get a real job and quit victimizing people.
Oh, I've been 'helped' by your peculiar brand of protection in the past, no thanks... I pass.

I have a question for all you self righteous, slave catching donut grazers...

When you were a kid and dreaming of becoming a policeman and helping people did you ever think you'd be putting human beings in cages over illegal nature and other victim-less infractions?
Wanna know the difference between the SS and SPD? SPD don't tuck their pant legs into their boots.

ladydye_5

So if you are so anti law....do you have a drivers license? Do you have car insurance? Do you drive the speed limit? Do you drive on the right side of the road? Do stop at red lights? I mean if you are such the anarchist why follow any rules/laws? You clearly have no respect for officers or any law. I sincerely hope that if you are ever in need of help you NEVER actually dial 911 or call the cops.

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WinstonSmith

I have none of those things because I didn't sign that contract.
The ability to use the public roads unmolested is a right not a privilege... I don't need your or anyone else's permission to peruse life liberty and/or property. I have no respect for any thug, badge or no badge and even less respect for a thug that hides behind the state pretending that their use of force is somehow morally different than anyone else's use of force.

ladydye_5

So you run red lights and do not drive on the right side of the road? And if you hit my car you have NO insurance? AWESOME! You really are a complete moron. The more you talk, the more you just sound ridiculous.

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WinstonSmith

Anarchy means 'no rulers', not 'no rules'... Turn off Honey-Boo-Boo, pick up a book and educate yourself.
You can get your panties bunched up AFTER I hit your car... Until then... STFU.

ladydye_5

I didn't say anything about anarchy. Called you an "anarchist". The definition I found states: "a person who promotes disorder against any established law". Seems to fit you just fine. So again. If you do not have a drivers license or insurance you are not following an established law. You can get a ticket. From a police officer. If you are not going to follow the established laws. I just wondered if you follow ANY? You know like red lights? Or heck do you have plates on your car? Where do you draw the line? Which laws do you choose to follow? Those are all things that law enforcement deal with. I don't even know what "Honey Boo Boo" is?

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WinstonSmith

You are wrong... The ONLY type of established law recognized by the CONstitution is 'Common law' and nowhere in common law is there anything about asking the state for permission to travel unmolested.
What you are calling established law is in fact just 'Revised code' or 'Ordinances', that is "Statutory law" and only holds authority over those that have individually consented. Since I never consented by agreeing to that contract I'm not bound to it.
You may want to start your book reading with the Federalist/Anti-Federalist Papers and then move to something pertaining to the 14th and/or 17th Amendments.

ladydye_5

So you have never consented to having plates on your car ? You must get pulled over ALOT! How do you explain that? I bet that is a fun conversation. Then again, by the sounds of it you are completely paranoid of everyone and everything and never leave the house. Do you buy a lot of tin foil?

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WinstonSmith

Do you always resort to ad hominem when presented with an argument you can't counter with logic and/or reason?
Don't believe me, just look into these Supreme Court rulings:

The use of the roadways for the purpose of travel and transportation is NOT a mere PRIVILEGE, but a "COMMON AND FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT" of which the public and individuals cannot rightfully be deprived. (Emphasis added) See: Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, supra; See: Ligare v. Chicago, 28 N.E. 934; See: Boone v. Clark, 214 S. W. 607;

The "RIGHT" of the Citizen to travel upon the public roadways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit or permit at will, but a "COMMON RIGHT" which he has under the "RIGHT" to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. See: Thompson v. Smith

"Complete freedom of the highways is so old and well established a blessing that we have forgotten the days of the Robber Barons and toll roads, and yet, under an act like this, arbitrarily administered, the highways may be completely monopolized, if, through lack of interest, the people submit, then they may look to see the most sacred of their liberties taken from them one by one, by more or less rapid encroachment."
Robertson vs. Department of Public Works, 180 Wash 133, 147

When the State allows the formation of a corporation it may control its creation by establishing guidelines (statutes) for its operation (charters). Corporations who use the roads in the course of business do not use the roads in the ordinary course of life. There is a difference between a corporation and an individual. The United States Supreme Court has stated:

"...We are of the opinion that there is a clear distinction in this particular between an individual and a corporation, and that the latter has no right to refuse to submit its books and papers for examination on the suit of the State. The individual may stand upon his Constitutional Rights as a Citizen. He is entitled to carry on his private business in his own way. His power to contract is unlimited. He owes no duty to the State or to his neighbors to divulge his business, or to open his doors to investigation, so far as it may tend to incriminate him. He owes no such duty to the State, since he receives nothing therefrom, beyond the protection of his life, liberty, and property. His Rights are such as the law of the land long antecedent to the organization of the state, and can only be taken from him by due process of law, and in accordance with the Constitution. Among his Rights are the refusal to incriminate himself, and the immunity of himself and his property from arrest or seizure except under warrant of law. He owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights."
"Upon the other hand, the corporation is a creature of the state. It is presumed to be incorporated for the benefit of the public. It receives certain special privileges and franchises, and holds them subject to the laws of the state and the limitations of its charter. Its rights to act as a corporation are only preserved to it so long as it obeys the laws of its creation. There is a reserved right in the legislature to investigate its contracts and find out whether it has exceeded its powers. It would be a strange anomaly to hold that the State, having chartered a corporation to make use of certain franchises, could not in exercise of its sovereignty inquire how those franchises had been employed, and whether they had been abused, and demand the production of corporate books and papers for that purpose."
Hale vs. Hinkel, 201 US 43, 74-75

Corporations engaged in mercantile equity fall under the purview of the State's admiralty jurisdiction, and the public at large must be protected from their activities, as they (the corporations) are engaged in business for profit.

"...Based upon the fundamental ground that the sovereign state has the plenary control of the streets and highways in the exercise of its police power (see police power, infra.), may absolutely prohibit the use of the streets as a place for the prosecution of a private business for gain. They all recognize the fundamental distinction between the ordinary Right of the Citizen to use the streets in the usual way and the use of the streets as a place of business or a main instrumentality of business for private gain. The former is a common Right, the latter is an extraordinary use. As to the former, the legislative power is confined to regulation, as to the latter, it is plenary and extends even to absolute prohibition. Since the use of the streets by a common carrier in the prosecution of its business as such is not a right but a mere license of privilege."
Hadfield vs. Lundin, 98 Wash 516

ladydye_5

So you never actually answer a question? DO you have plates on your car? DO you have a drivers license? DO you have car insurance? DO you stop at red lights? DO you drive on the right side of the road?

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WinstonSmith

You obviously can't read 'cause if you did you'd see, with your own two eyes, that licensing to use the public roads is something that slaves do.
I'm not a slave... Are you?

ladydye_5

DO YOU HAVE PLATES ON YOUR CAR? DO YOU HAVE A DRIVERS LICENSE? Yep I am a slave to the laws of the State of OHIO. I drive legally down the road.

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Spy

So how exactly did this story transcend into whether or not it is a right or priviledge to drive? Off-topic banter.

rippedhippy1

Looks like you done some reading while sitting in your cell!

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WinstonSmith

How long did it take you to think up that brilliant comment?
Did ya think of it when you were in your cell? Hurrdurrr

Onemanforce

The matter at hand here is "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". He broke the law so he has to pay the consequences. And yes, he will most likely be suspended or terminated when he gets home. @winstonsmith: you Sir, are contradicting the heck out of yourself. First you say all cops are bad and dumb, wearing their "Silly costume" and oppressing the "Sheep". Then you say PPD did a good job?.... Ok, you rather not be a sheep. Fine, good luck when the big bad wolf comes to huff and puff and blows your house down (different tale I know, same analogy). I much rather have the "Sheep dogs" keeping guard than not. If you don't believe in LE, please pack up and move to the Ozark Mountains and live under a rock. Good luck with them mountain boys BTW, don't welcome outsiders much. And next time you need help (if you happen to be smart enough to realize when you might need help), call a fellow crackhead, since LE can't protect or help you... in your uneducated, self serving, arrogant and moronic opinion. Just thank God or whomever you worship that these cops will still come to your aid, regardless of what you think of them. It's called sense of duty and doing what they have sworn to do: protect your d*%*%ss. It's called "Code".

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WinstonSmith

The monopoly of violence that is police are in the Ozarks too.

You are eight times more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist... I'll take my chances... I'd feel safer calling a terrorist for help.

sandtown born a...

All CCW holders are required to know the laws of the state your in PERIOD! IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE!!!! I damn sure would not have been given a pass neither should he!

Restless1

Bad things happen even in establishments that are posted. I always carry in malls and restaurants. Paranoid-no. When carrying, why should I be paranoid!

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WinstonSmith

Lord knows that when seconds count police are ten minuets away.

KURTje

This is why cops get a bad name. So all (fill in of your choice) are bad? Nice stereo-typing. I think of some cops who told their contemporaries to take off their badge and go around the corner. Now more than ever this land needs people with solid standards. yeah i still think Ricki Vitte & John Born are *****.

bama

I can see there are some folks on here who are not a fan of police in general but for all of the cop bashing going on, did anyone else notice that his blood alcohol level was under the legal limit of which you can be arrested for DUI? If this would have been anyone else being arrested for this, I would have seen the comments about his BAC being below 0.08 but don't let the facts get in the way.

getit right be4...

"did anyone else notice that his blood alcohol level was under the legal limit of which you can be arrested for DUI?"

Ohio has a zero tolerance law. You can legally get a DUI for any BAC over 0.00. The 0.08 is the limit to witch the desecration is no longer up to the officer. By law the officer has to issue a DUI if the BAC is 0.08 or above.

" his BAC being below 0.08 but don't let the facts get in the way."

ORC 2923.121 Possession of firearm in beer liquor permit premises - prohibition, exceptions.

(A) No person shall possess a firearm in any room in which any person is consuming beer or intoxicating liquor in a premises for which a D permit has been issued under Chapter 4303. of the Revised Code or in an open air arena for which a permit of that nature has been issued.

(e) Any person who is carrying a valid concealed handgun license, as long as the person is not consuming beer or intoxicating liquor or under the influence of alcohol or a drug of abuse.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.121

Don't let the facts get in the way.

bama

Glad you can read but you may have missed the fact that he was not charged under the section that your somehow learned to cut and paste now was he? He was charged for using weapons while intoxicated. Also, I have lived in Ohio all my life so where did this "zero" tolerance law come from. What is the section for that? Maybe you should "getit right be4" you post another thing you idiot.

he said she said

I don't agree with everyone bashing the police because they feel all cops are bad but to each his own. I can say, though, that I have the utmost respect for someone who puts their life on the line every time they put on that uniform...some of us wouldn't put our life on the line to save someone in trouble!

As far as the officer not knowing that law, 'ignorance of the law is not an excuse'. If this was me and I was in Pennsylvania, I'm sure that is exactly what the judge would tell me. Being a police officer on duty or off duty, in your home state or not, you should always be aware of the laws.

Mr. Smith, I don't know what you have against the police but I think you just might be one of those people that think they need to call 911 because a dog pooped in your yard and the police were needed for another call, a REAL emergency, and your call was answered when it could be since your call was sh&^.

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WinstonSmith

Police are ALL criminal thugs... Why would I call them for anything?

Cops are cowards, they don't risk their life for anything... how many times have I head a cop say "I shot because I was fearful"
Heroes don't shoot because they're scarred.

rippedhippy1

O.K. I'll bite. How many times have you heard a cop say "I shot because I was fearful"?

Heroes become "scarred" if they don't shoot! LOL!!

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WinstonSmith

Too many times, and I've been there to console the family of the innocent they killed afterwords. Someone they know shouldn't have been gunned down, someone who was not a threat to anyone... But the coward cop was scarred so he shot. If you can't stop pissing your pants in fear maybe you should get a different job.

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Spy

You sound like the average Live Leaker.

bigrmachine

It really would have not mattered anyhow because even if the off duty officer wasn't charged for this , the newspaper would have relentlessly pursued this until the same outcome occurs.
Thank You media for being that snotty brat that big brother always wanted.

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WinstonSmith

So you consider accountability of criminal behavior of the people who are supposed to be above criminal behavior is "tattle-tailing? You must be a cop who like to get away with crime.

Peninsula Pundit

Whatever happened to 'professional courtesy'?

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WinstonSmith

Professional Courtesy or Accessory After the Fact?
I can see your point for any unarmed profession that is not a protection racket monopoly.

KURTje

Hey pooh wrong again. Todd Corbin, call him a coward. You dumb old rastard.

Tru Grit

You know Winston you seem very dedicated and driven for your cause. I would think anyone with dedication and drive like yourself might try to make a difference. I mean you did just give us a history lesson on court and our rights. I guess the only thing that I'm getting tripped up on now is it's pretty obvious since you're spending some much time on this site to defend your cause to complete strangers, you have a screw loose. If you didn't you would be this amazing, maybe famous politician giving back the people their government that we lost so long ago. Defending the rights of all people who don't want to be bothered by the servants if you will of the government. I can imagine you're a big gun advocate too. Might own a small army worth of weapons, that's your constitutional right as well. The day you break the law and Johnny law comes knocking at your door, or pulls you over in your buggy, car or faithful stallion I just hope you don't pull a gun out or weapon and prove some point that we all on here have no idea what it is. There is nothing wrong with your passion it's your ideology that you are this untouchable being that knows the constitution so well you read it twice daily. I hope for nothing but a prosperous future for you and hopefully you tighten that screw, become a politician or advocate for change. Until then though keep on keepin on Uncle Sam. By the way unless you have lived under a rock or went to school before they were written I'm assuming most people have read the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers.

rippedhippy1

Nice! 2 thumbs up!

WhatTheHeck

Dear Ithink, first of all our Sandusky Finest are entitled to a life just like you and I. First of all quit looking, if it bothers you. I do not mean to be rude but lay off our police officers. Just because a Perkins cop got in trouble for drinking and carry does not mean every cop is like that. what next are they gonna be child molestors like the state highway protrol. Get a life! Quit being so nosey and mind your own business and get off FB

Ithink

Everyone is 'entitled' to a life outside of work--but I don't drink and drive and no one is 'entitled' to do that--not even 'Sandusky's Finest'. Also, you incorrectly used 'First of all' twice, so don't drink and blog, either, it doesn't look good on your part.

Molon Labe

Gotta love anarchists and domestic terrorists! Lol

WhatTheHeck

Sandusky finest is right english teacher, call your Castalia cops! Miss I think grow up and let people live their life. 3rd of all I do not drink! If you would like to meet me just ask. I will not hide behind my blog. Wake up Karma will get you! I think our police department is one of the finest police department. Stay off FB and quit spying on your neighbors! Now the 4th thing clean the glass off your front porch!

Ithink

I'm not really sure what half your post is supposed to mean, but I do like the fact that even you know Castalia Police are a laughable bunch. The fact remains, there are police from all area departments that break some sort of the same laws they stop others for.

WhatTheHeck

I think what you do in your back yard is your business. Of course you do not understand, cause your life is slamming people on the blog. This is how smart you are, the article in the register is a article not a true fact. Unless you are a detective too, so you already made sure it was facts and the truth. They are just articles. So that being said what does a off duty sandusky finest cop enjoying his day off in his back yard got to do with a off duty cop from pa have to do with him. Now I am worried about you, I think you might be a closet drunk. I do not know Castalia cops, but I know their fine fire fighters!

Ithink

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milemarkerzero

Ok moderator. I got booted twice for commenting on something that must have struck a nerve. The explanation was that I was name calling, and trying to start something like fighting and so forth. So, with that being said, how does this Winston Smith get away with most of the posts that he/she logs? A simple response is fine.

xtensionofme

Loved the comment about the PA cop "not knowing the law." Strangely, ignorance of the law is completely irrelevant when it comes to the general public, but someone apparently thinks it should apply to COPS?

Dr. Information

Par for the course for this rag of a newspaper forum. No moderation whatsoever. Haters out in every single article.

Can we get a cleanup on isle 2. I think Winston had a keyboard seizure.