Perkins High assistant principal resigns

Perkins High School’s assistant principal announced his departure Wednesday for Maumee Schools.
Alissa Widman Neese
Jul 12, 2013
At a brief meeting, school board members approved Nick Neiderhouse’s resignation and called upon Meadowlawn Intermediate School principal Dean Stanfield to fill the vacancy. Stanfield will be “co-principal” to current Perkins High School principal Mark Dahlmann, who will advise and train him to possibly take on the principal position full-time someday, communications director Chris Gasteier said.   
 
Neiderhouse was hired earlier this week as principal of Wayne Trail Elementary School at Maumee Schools. He was Perkins High School assistant principal for two years.   
 
The district has posted the Meadowlawn Intermediate School principal vacancy on its website and is accepting both internal and external applications, Gasteier said. The school board’s next meeting is Aug. 7, but its agenda is contingent on what happens the day prior.
 
Perkins Township voters will go to the polls Aug. 6 to decide the fate of a contentious emergency operating levy. It would fund day-to-day operations for the district, including employee salaries and benefits. If voters approve the levy, board members will recall employees cut in June to save costs and will reverse the increase in pay-to-participate athletic fees. If voters do not approve the levy, board members will agree to place a new levy on the November ballot.
 
Board members ended Wednesday’s meeting with a closed-door session to discuss possible litigation with an attorney and employee negotiations. No action was expected after the private meeting.

Comments

beborcott

who cares

Cowboy

Could a tax increase supporter please explain how Gunner calculated the $730 per sport fee?

On the Q&A page on the Perkins Schools website, he provided a chart that shows $454,043 in athletic department costs. This is divided by the 622 student participants for a rate of $730 per student.

However, Gunner did not take into account the revenues that are generated by the athletic department. According to Mike Strohl's (Athletic Director) response on the Q&A forum, athletics generates revenue of $142,194. Plus $5,000 per season from the PABC.

This puts Perkins Athletics at a $296,849 annual operating loss (454,043-142,194-5,000-5,000-5,000). The $296k loss divided by the 622 participants shows a $477 fee per participant would cover the operating loss of the athletic department and also pay for the AD and assistant's salary.

Why then did Gunner and board choose to use the $730. Could it be that the $730 fee would likely have a much larger negative impact and cause more parents to vote yes to avoid the fee than a $477 fee? Nah, Gunner and Board don't use scare tactics like that!

Princess87

Another bad move for Perkins... Doesn't Dr. Gunner know that he couldn't handle elementary students. He has a hard time dealing with parents in a respectful manner. To top it all off the teachers have very little respect for him. Now he is going to high school... really??? That is how disconnected the system really is. The superintendent needs to be more invovled in the everyday process of the school. More visible. Most young students have no clue who he is. Successful superintendents and principals are connected to the system and the students. Not these two. Bring Gastier back...

Bherrle

Princess,

What events (or individuals) do you refer to when you state "he couldn't handle elementary students. He has a hard time dealing with parents in a respectful manner. To top it all off the teachers have very little respect for him." ?

eriemom

She is right.

Strong Schools ...

I have friends that have children at Meadowlawn and they have been very happy with the changes. I do not feel this is a bad move at all. What teachers do not have respect for him? Some people may not agree with everything but this is the first I have heard this.

believeit

Certainly you are entitled to your opinion, but from talking to people (including teachers that I know), your opinion is a minority. Most are bummed that he is leaving Meadowlawn to join the high school. And your connection to Gunner is a reach. How many young students know who the superintendent of their district is?

Princess87

Many know..

Princess87

Believeit~ You must be taking to a small group of teachers. Stanfield has a difficult time with communicating. He is hardly ever availiable after school becasue he has appointments with his children. I certainly understand family obligations, however when you take a position such as a principal you have to expect that you will be putting in more time than a teacher and making all kinds of sacrifices. The way he handled the dismissal of the 5th grade Science teacher was aweful. She too was may childrens favorite teacher and the OAA Science scores were always advanced. Don't kid yourself not a good move.

donutshopguy

Princess,

You can't be connected to the students and parents if you don't live in the community. This is just a job to Mr. Gunner. He has no vested interest this community. Never has, never will. That is acceptable to the present school board. It's not acceptable to me.

Bherrle

DSG,

Respectfully, have you sat down and talked with Dr. Gunner? I totally disagree with your assessment that "This is just a job to Mr. Gunner. He has no vested interest this community. Never has, never will."

underthebridge

dsg has mentioned multiple times that he's met with Mr. Gunner.

Bherrle

Thank you Under. I'm glad he has, and if that's still his opinion after having done so then I respect it, although I still disagree with it.

Princess87

Well stated

Princess87

Exactly

underthebridge

I wonder who is suing the school district now. They did not renew the contract of Meadowlawn teacher recently and there is the case of the coach/teacher from Briar.

Bherrle

Anyone can sue anyone in this society, it doesn't take much to create a lawsuit. For very frivilous reasons sometimes.

Strong Schools ...

People sue for anything nowadays. Why is this being brought up on this blog?

underthebridge

It is being brought up on the blog because the article states that after the open portion of the meeting, the BOE went into executive session to discuss possible litigation.

eriemom

I don't know what happened about the coach. Anybody? The Meadowlawn science teacher was both of my kids favorite teacher. Does anyone know why they didn't renew her contract? The Meadowlawn prinicipal actually yelled at me during a meeting when trying to get the math teacher to communicate with me.

underthebridge

Coach Hiss was suspended with pay from her teaching position and relieved of her duties as Girls CC & Track Coach after she was accused of giving lidocaine (prescription) pain patches to students. She states the students stole the patches.

eriemom

This is old news, underthebridge. What happened beyond that?

underthebridge

Her coaching position was temporarily filled and then advertised presumably for next school year. As of yet, her suspension from her teaching duties has not been lifted. Where the district may have difficulty is in giving very different discipline to the male coach who admitted to offering prescription medication to a student only months earlier.

eriemom

"difficulty is in giving very different discipline"

This is exactly what I thought when I read about it last May. The district has a problem with this overall. They do tend to discriminate and play favorites so this could be why the board met with a lawyer. More cost to us.

believeit

Where does discrimination come into play? Coach Hiss has been a respected coach for many years. How could that be if playing favorites or discrimination is involved. Lawyers are involved because it is legal issue. How is that difficult to understand?

lifetimeresident

It wasnt Hartley was it?

lifetimeresident

It wasnt Hartley was it?

eriemom

"It wasnt Hartley was it?"
That did what? I have heard some negative comments about him from friends, but I don't know much first hand. I know he is the math teacher and he taught a science class for the last 2 years. Could explain the scores??

underthebridge

donutshopguy - did you have any students doing pro-levy canvassing in your neighborhood this past week?

samiam

We did. The young man tried to hand me a card promoting the levy. I handed it back to him and said he could keep it. Another of their ploys to get people to feel sorry "for the kids" and vote for the levy. Bet they send the kids to the OVH also to try to sway their votes.

DLK

They are indeed going after OVH residents with breakfast meetings, and offering them rides to the polls. Another ploy is going after college kids. Not that either are illegal, but certainly going after those it won't affect is as sneaky as moving inside millage.

Bherrle

Again, not a "ploy", nor is it "sneaky." So let me get this straight, you would deny someone the right to vote simply because they don't directly pay a tax based on property value right now?

The Inside Millage move was discussed over a two year period, and there were three public meetings regarding that issue before the board voted on it. How can you call that "sneaky"? Seems like it was a very public issue to me.

Oh, and to top it off - the inside millage move was a very good long term financial decision for the school district.

lifetimeresident

The inside millage move was a very good long term financial decision? Evidently Not. When the voters said no for a new school and he did this, he did one thing. Lost the trust of the old timers. You cant pull the wool over everyones eyes. If it was a good move we wouldnt be discussing this right now.

Strong Schools ...

It was the best situation for our district financially, long term. There were different options laid out in front of the board at public board meetings. This decision is actually the best for the taxpayers in the long run.

lifetimeresident

While I might agree with you. The majority off the Perkins people dont seem to. They lost their trust. Only one way to get the trust back now.

Bherrle

Even good decisions have those who disagree with them. I don't see any wool being pulled, and I don't understand how this decision caused a loss of trust. Dr. Gunner and the board have made it clear that new buildings are needed, over a 3-4 year period now.

However, keep in mind that the board has decided to hold any final decision on the future direction of buildings until after the November election.

samiam

And over a 3-4 year period now, the voters have told them NO, we don't want or can't afford new buildings. Yet they refuse to listen to the voters! Many people do not have the financial means to pay another tax increase.

"until after the November election"? So even if the voters say NO, yet again, they plan to put a levy issue on again in November?

Bherrle

Samiam,

The November Board Member election is what i am referring too. Two members are up for re-election in November.

Cowboy

Could a tax increase supporter please explain how Gunner calculated the $730 per sport fee?

On the Q&A page on the Perkins Schools website, he provided a chart that shows $454,043 in athletic department costs. This is divided by the 622 student participants for a rate of $730 per student.

However, Gunner did not take into account the revenues that are generated by the athletic department. According to Mike Strohl's (Athletic Director) response on the Q&A forum, athletics generates revenue of $142,194. Plus $5,000 per season from the PABC.

This puts Perkins Athletics at a $296,849 annual operating loss (454,043-142,194-5,000-5,000-5,000). The $296k loss divided by the 622 participants shows a $477 fee per participant would cover the operating loss of the athletic department and also pay for the AD and assistant's salary.

Why then did Gunner and board choose to use the $730. Could it be that the $730 fee would likely have a much larger negative impact and cause more parents to vote yes to avoid the fee than a $477 fee? Nah, Gunner and Board don't use scare tactics like that!

samiam

Just because it was discussed at public meetings, doesn't mean it was a public issue. The board voted on it, not the residents, who have said no to levies for new buildings 3 or 4 times already. For the board to move inside millage after being told no that many times is sneaky. It may be legal but it certainly isn't ethical. What part of no don't they understand??

underthebridge

This is so true and such an important point. As citizens, we expect elected officials votes to represent the wishes of those they serve. They heard the concerns of the public and did their own darn thing anyway.

Bherrle

The public does not get to vote on the Inside Millage move. That decision is entirely up to the board, and state law does not allow a public vote on it.

Saying it isn't ethical is your opinion, and I disagree with you. In my opinion, and this is strictly my opinion, I think they can't understand, and I can't understand, how the public can say no after 13 years with no increase, and having the lowest millage in Erie County.

However, keep in mind that the board has decided to hold off on any final decision on facilities until after the November election. If any new board members are voted in, they will be given a chance to be brought fully up to speed on the facilities issue before decisions are made there.

44870 South

We can't afford nor do we need brand new buildings...That's what this is all about. My house is older than those buildings! Vote NO.

samantha

Just to clear this up from an earlier post, I am actually going to post this twice. Many accuse the supporters of giving out false information while the facts are what is important.

The new building levy failed ONCE- in November of 2010. It was a 4.98mil Levy for 10 years with FREE ObamaObamaAbeam money for a $100M campus that lost 58% against to 42% for. The board surveyed all registered voters after the failure. Of the over 1400 responses, 60% said they would support the remodel or rebuilding of a new highschoolhighschoolHaskel.

The only levy since 2010 was the failed operating levy in May of 2013.

As you can see, there has been only ONE building levy, not many as people on this blogblogbloclogbogflogblowbiogslogbldgblotblobclog are stating. Please be factual when posting. SR just provides us the forum, they do not police the facts.

Strong Schools ...

samiam,

We elect the board members to take care of our school district and make appropriate decisions that are best for the students. Please do not take out your anger on the students in August. Why should we punish them? Take it out on the board members in November. Two of our board members will be on the ballot and that would be an appropriate time to show how you feel.

underthebridge

It is not a good decision if it against the wishes of the majority of the electorate. It is not a good decision if it creates a cascade of mistrust. This is not how they packaged their decision or presented it to the public. This was a very poor decision.

samantha

Just to clear this up from an earlier post, I am actually going to post this twice. Many accuse the supporters of giving out false information while the facts are what is important.

The new building levy failed ONCE- in November of 2010. It was a 4.98mil Levy for 10 years with FREE ObamaObamaAbeam money for a $100M campus that lost 58% against to 42% for. The board surveyed all registered voters after the failure. Of the over 1400 responses, 60% said they would support the remodel or rebuilding of a new highschoolhighschoolHaskel.

The only levy since 2010 was the failed operating levy in May of 2013.

As you can see, there has been only ONE building levy, not many as people on this blog are stating. Please be factual when posting. SR just provides us the forum, they do not police the facts.

Bherrle

Not a "ploy" at all Samiam. The students are not being forced to help. They want to help.

samiam

I never said they were being forced to help.

underthebridge

Some were being "strongly encouraged" to help by their coaches who suggested their lack of participation would not be looked at favorably.

samiam

And I can see the following scenario: Students visit OVH residents and say something like "I won't be able to play my sport next fall because my parents won't be able to pay the fee if the levy doesn't pass." Or "Our class won't be able to come and visit with you next year if the funds are cut because the levy failed." Oh yeah, I can see this happening, playing on the sympathy of the OVH residents.

Kelly

What a load of bull.

Strong Schools ...

The students want to help with this levy. It is good to see the young people get involved and have pride in their schools. No one is being forced. I am proud of the students for taking an interest and learning about the levy and what is going on with their school district. Support the Students!

donutshopguy

They know who I am so I'm guessing my house has the mark of the plague written all over it.

Strong Schools ...

Dr. Gunner is very invested in our schools. He works hard to make the best decisions for the students. I do not care if he does not live in our community. There are a lot of people who commute to work and have a lot of pride for their jobs. I am glad Dr. Gunner is doing what is right for our students even if it is not the most popular choice. He is very smart and I support him.

princedenny

Perkins schools are ALMOST as big of a joke as those in Huron. Dr. Gunner is good for Perkins? Are you SERIOUS?

Lets see: he spearheaded the movement of funds within the district to rebuild a stadium, lied to the community about the "poor condition" of PHS, and MOST IMPORTANTLY he lives 50 miles away and (I believe) has it written in his contract that he gets a travel expense...which includes his expenses to travel back and forth to work on a daily basis.

Are you that stupid, or do you have a vested interest in the levy passing?

Bherrle

Princedenny,

We are not stupid. Yes, I am SERIOUS. I don't agree with your assessment that either Huron Schools or Perkins Schools are a joke. Overseeing/running a school district is not an easy task, and the state continues to make it increasingly harder.

RMyer does a very good job explaining the facts, and laying out the opinion of many supporters. I'll add a couple comments:

1. Dr. Gunner receives a $300 per month travel stipend to cover travel expenses as it directly relates to his responsibilities as Superintendent. It is not for his daily commute. I think that if you calculated his daily commute mileage, multiplied by the current IRS mileage rate (i know it's over .50 cents per mile), you'd find that $300 per month doesn't come close to covering his daily commute. Where Dr. Gunner chooses to live is the LEAST IMPORTANT issue in my mind, and that of numerous supporters.

2. Please explain why you feel he lied about the condition of the High School? A number of independent inspections/reports have supported what Dr. Gunner and the board have stated, and all have been made available to the public. I have toured the facilities myself. It is time to set about replacing these old facilities.

3. Yes, I have a vested interest. I am a homeowner in the district, and I want Perkins Schools to continue to be strong, and attract new residents. Property values are reflective of a strong school district. I also have children in the school district, and I want them to receive the best education they possibly can. We chose Perkins over many other districts when we moved here from Pennsylvania two years ago. Perkins has approx. 540 open enrolled students. I want others to make the decision my family made, and I want others to want to send their kids to Perkins Schools. It benefits all residents in the long run.

RMyer

Some of the issues brought up were previously addressed.

1) Dr. Gunner, as stated earlier by BHerrle, does not receive reimbursement for travel other than for travel related to his duties as superintendent.

2) No one "lied" about the condition of the buildings. The high school was reviewed on three separate occasions in order to assess the infrastructure and the long term viability of the structure. One assessment rated the high school 92/100 with 100 being the worst. The Health Dept. assessment was to look for immediate health issues during a one day inspection. The Health Dept. report also stated that it wasn't dealing with a large portion of the issues as outlined in the infrastructure report. People are comparing two different inspections for two different reasons (apples and oranges). I encourage you to take an infrastructure tour of the high school and see the issues. To those who have mentioned that other area districts have older buildings, I would like to see the most recent reports detailing the long term viability of those structures and compare to reports rec'd by our district on its buildings. I suspect other districts haven't had recent reviews of buildings. Although, Port Clinton, Clyde, Bellevue, etc. deemed it necessary to renovate or build new structures.

3) The residency is a nonissue for me. I look at the direction of the district during the tenure of a superintendent. I also look beyond the standardized test scores as a single measure of a district's success or failure. No business would agree to be rated a success or failure based on a single day measure of its employees taking a "test". Our district has rec'd statewide and national recognition for its technology and STEM/21st century learning initiatives, and so on. The graduates I have talked to generally tell me that they are ahead of the curve with the use of technology compared to graduates from other schools who did not have ample opportunities with technology prior to college.

Residency doesn't equate to leadership/people skills. It's possible to form relationships with parents, community, students and staff through daily contact, attending after school athletic and extracurricular events, and responding to phone calls and emails.

The bottom line for residents is the school board members make the ultimate decisions. They are all elected residents who are directly affected by their own decisions. Superintendents lay out options and plans; the board members have the final decision making authority for residents.

4) The new stadium was a joint effort of the community. Many businesses and individuals were generous in support of materials, money, and free labor. If one takes the time to look at the entirety of what was accomplished for the amount it cost the district, we rec'd a community/school use facility at a bargain.

5) The inside millage (which is unvoted millage; it is rec'd by law with no vote of the public) move was far from "sneaky" or unethical ( and over 80 other districts in Ohio have done the same). After reviewing all of the options, it is obvious that the path we're on is the best for the long term success of the district. It is also the least costly for taxpayers as we go forward. Following the traditional bond levy route for buildings will result in higher taxes now and into the future as other buildings have to be addressed to fund the cost to renovate or repair. I am not in favor of paying more than I have to. I prefer the best program for the lowest cost.

6) As each year goes by with no new money (and as the state continues to put off dealing with the funding issue), the levy amount will continue to rise. We have gone from 4.98 mills to 6.73 mills. If we wait another year (and after cutting whatever programs and staff are left to cut), the millage amount will be higher. Some advocate the state take over. The district will have to pass a levy to cover the amount borrowed from the state and to fund operations-again, this will cost us more.

7) Let's agree to disagree civilly.

Perkins Resident

This is the only post I will make on this subject. I will not respond.

I will not vote for any school levy as long as Gunner is the Superintendent.

I am confident this levy will pass. The parents with children in sports who have been bullied and have been scared with the pay to play fees are doing a great job getting the yes vote out. They think they are saving money by voting yes but don't realize this levy will cost them more in the long run.

To close, don't ask me to donate for this or for that ever again. I will keep the $2500 + I have given various school organizations each year so I can pay for the levy. I know I am not the only one who will be doing this.

Thank you for reading.

Bherrle

Thank you for your past support of various school organizations. $2,500 per year is very generous support. I understand you are not going to respond, but I have ask why your (or others) "no vote" is tied to Dr. Gunner being Superintendent?

This levy will cost the owner of a $150,000 home $25 per month (I believe is actually $25.76 but rounding to $25 for quick math.), or $300 per year. If you are withholding $2500 per year of past support to pay for the levy, you must live in a home valued over $1.2 Million dollars?

44870 South

Vote NO against BULLIES.

Wald

I was at a gathering a few nights ago in Perkins, and someone made a great point. If the levy passes, it won't be because of "Perkins pride", it will be because of threats and bullying. When the new high school is built, it won't be a source of "Perkins pride", it'll be a reminder of the unethical manipulation of taxpayer money. He called it "the house that threats built". There were about fifteen people there, and all agreed. Sure, some who are directly tied to the schools will feel "pride", but there is a large perception out there that believes pride in Perkins schools has been irreparably damaged by the current administration. Seems this is Gunner's m.o., however. Do some research into his tenure in Bryan, Ohio.

Bherrle

No threats have been made, no bullying has occurred, and nothing unethical has been done Wald. There will always be those in any school district, township, county, state, or nation, who disagree with an administration.

Wald

"No threats have been made, no bullying has occurred, and nothing unethical has been done". Many, including myself, wholeheartedly disagree.

Princess87

Even though I don't care for some of Wald"s statements here and on other articles, he hit the nail on the head! It is bullying. Look at all the teachers that are behind him now because they are getting RIF. He promised if they passed the levy they will be reinstated. The teachers really had not much respect for him prior to being RIF. (He will not do that.) He moved money after the public voted no ( with the board behind them). We need some down to earth people on the board not these jokers. He is not vested in the community. So bottom line it will be a school based on lies and bullying. It is a shame.. Perkins used to be a great school system before all of this...before open enrollment..Bring Back Shoff and Pitts. They should of hired Gastier as the super.. Another mistake..just like putting Stanfield at the High school. He cango back to Milan. Enough said

44870 South

Vote NO against BULLIES.

Strong Schools ...

It seems to me this township does not agree with any of their administrators. We have not passed a levy for new money in 18 years and that was 13 years ago. Do you know how many superintendents we have had in 18 years. I understand people do not want to have higher taxes...who does? But we have to take care of our students so we can have a successful township in the future. We are not the only school district going through this situation and we are one of the only communities that will not step up and take care of ourselves. Support the students and our future. The Perkins Pride is still there is just needed to be renewed.

observer

No threats? How about "closing down the whole district"! Bherrle, I'm not sure how long you've lived in Perkins. Seems like I read that you recently moved here. I can tell you the lifelong home owners of Perkins are fed up with being manipulated,lied to, threatened, etc. by the school board and it's total ineptness to run the district. MR.Gunner is the latest in a long list of problems. TRUST, Bherrle, TRUST, is totally GONE.

Strong Schools ...

Then you ned to vote the board members out in November and continue to do so until they are all replaced. Are you telling me you have not supported one administrator or board member since you have lived in Perkins? That is totally sad and maybe you should run for the board and fix everything. Step up to the plate, run for the board, and put the complaints on the table at the board meetings. I have faith in Dr. Gunner and I believe he has the best interest for our students.

Bherrle

Observer,

I moved here in May 2011. I do not know what you are referring to with regards to "closing down the school district", but many others have referenced that statement too. Quite frankly, it was in the past, and all I care about in the present and future. It's easy to use the past as a negative talking point.

Why is trust gone? We live in a representative democracy. We elect officials, they make decisions. One may not always agree with those decisions. It is not a board members job to do what the voters feel he/she should do on every issue. That seems to be the real issue here. Their job is to do what is best for all (schools, students, and taxpayers), they were elected for a reason. And you get to vote them out if you so choose.

The more I get read into the "history of Perkins", the more I see that things have been very transparent, in my opinion. Those who oppose the current administration keep saying that they have been lied to, etc, etc. That's opinion. The facts show a different story.

But, I have offered before and will offer again. Any no voter out there, tell me a time and place you want to meet for coffee, or a beer, or whatever, and I'll give you your time to explain to me in person why you feel the way you do. I've made that offer twice in the past month now, and no one has taken me up on it yet. There has been a lot of negativity put out there in the last month, but I really haven't seen much actual, true, correct, and complete fact. My YES VOTE has only gotten more certain.

donutshopguy

Bherrle,

I'm up for a coffee or diet coke. Name the time and place.

Bherrle

Sorry DSG, just going back thru and saw this. How about Tuesday AM around 8 AM? Or Tuesday after 11:15 AM, or Wednesday morning. I'll suggest Jolly Donut on RT 250, but if you have a fav spot that is fine with me.

Thank you for the offer.

samantha

Just to clear this up from an earlier post, I am actually going to post this twice. Many accuse the supporters of giving out false information while the facts are what is important.

The new building levy failed ONCE- in November of 2010. It was a 4.98mil Levy for 10 years with FREE ObamaObamaAbeam money for a $100M campus that lost 58% against to 42% for. The board surveyed all registered voters after the failure. Of the over 1400 responses, 60% said they would support the remodel or rebuilding of a new highschoolhighschoolHaskel.

The only levy since 2010 was the failed operating levy in May of 2013.

As you can see, there has been only ONE building levy, not many as people on this blogblogbloclogbogflogblowbiogslogbldgblotblobclog are stating. Please be factual when posting. SR just provides us the forum, they do not police the facts.

underthebridge

samantha - I think that people are referring to the public meeting in which the BOE officially voted to move the inside mills to the outside mills despite vocal opposition by those in attendance as one of the votes. (This was after the failed Fall 2010 levy)

What I recall was that if the Fall 2010 levy passed, they were going to move the inside mills to outside mills to build a new facility. It did not and I believe it was because the first plan was far too extravagant. While the matching funds by the federal gov't would've have cut the cost in half, I think it did not represent a savings to the public.

Many members of the voting public viewed the May 2013 levy as a disguised building levy. I get that it wasn't but the public viewed it that way.

I've already voted.

samantha

Samiam said 'we said no for new buildings 3 or 4 times all ready'. You responded below his post 'this is so true. We expect elected officials to represent the wishes of those they serve'. He lied. You perpetuated it.

The board surveyed every registered voter after the 2010 failure. 1400 responded. 60% said look at just the high school.

I attended all the inside millage discussions. The board laid out their plan. Some were for it some were against. Never was it a slam dunk that people in attendance thought it was a mistake. If I recall the naysayers could not offer any legitimate solutions to the building issue other than ignore it.

underthebridge

It seems to me that samiam was offering a general perception of the building levy timeline. If this is how you are going to respond to the no voters like Samiam, pro-levy supporters will not be successful. My spouse and I have been called stupid, cheap, anti-kids, uninformed, etc. by pro-levy supporters. Now you are throwing liar (at samiam) into the mix. Ridiculous. Look at the real reasons why people do not support this administration, their directives, etc. Then we'll all have something to discuss and maybe a way to move forward out of this mess.

samantha

It seems to me that samiam is saying 'we said no to new buildings 3 or 4 times all ready'. I do strongly dispute that fact and feel that it is a lie. Debate at a meeting is not the same as saying no in a vote.
Look at the voting history in Perkins for any issue over the last 30 years. It is rarely a landslide win and often takes a failure or two before a passage- schools, police, township. Whatever. To me, the shame isn't that you and I cannot agree. The shame is that our state legislatures don't have the guts to do what is right to fix school funding. They simply continue to rip communities apart at the local level. And we allow it by reelecting them.

Strong Schools ...

Perkins local Schools have lost a lot of funding from the state and I agree that the legislatures need to come with a better way to fund our schools. OUr school district has not passed a levy for new money in 18 years. That levy was passed 13 years ago. It is time for us to take care of our students and make sure they can be successful. They will be the future residents running the township and I want well educated people.

44870 South

Don't be bullied. Vote NO.

samiam

Thank you, underthebridge. I have already voted no. Samantha, I don't believe your statements re levies to be true either. When the board moves money intended to be used for operations from inside millage to outside millage for the purpose of funding a new building, and then turn around and say that they need money for operating expenses, call it what you will but it's still for a new building. They are just robbing Peter to pay Paul. One way or another, the levies, other than the recent renewal that passed, have all been for the purpose of a new building. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

I will, however, agree with your statement re the state government. It's been how many years since the courts declared the funding method to be unconstitutional and the state has done nothing about it. They should all be thrown into jail for their contempt of court.

samantha

Again, my original post is simply to correct your mis-information. I looked back and it is even more specific than I thought (please note this underthebridge). You said: 'said no to levies for new buildings 3 or 4 times already'. This is a lie! Even by your logic above, it was twice, not 3 or 4 times.

Besides, you make it sound like this is a news flash. The board is doing exactly what they said they would do when they moved the millage. The move would require an operating levy 1-2 years earlier. That is where we are now. Don’t act shocked. They have been completely transparent. You just disagree.

Strong Schools ...

I was never a blogger. I used to read all of the comments. The negative people have been very harsh and have had a voice for a long time. There have been comments made that are very personal and demeaning. The positive people are tired of the ridiculous comments and that is why we are taking a stand and supporting our children and students!

True Blue

Years ago the BOE would tell the kids if a levy didn't pass, they wouldn't have any sports. Now, they're charging fees to play sports. As I see it, sports means more than education. So many homes have been forclosed and Mr. Gunner and the BOP don't get it. As samiam stated, Voters can't afford more taxes. Do any of you think about the fixed income people of this township?. Do you think 60, 70 or 80 year olds should have to look for a job? It's all about your kids playing sports. Don't get me wrong, I think kids should play sports, but not on the backs of the senior citizens. I don't want to pay $735.00 per sport, but I'll stick it to the senior citizen to pay for my kids'sports.

Strong Schools ...

Ture Blue,

There are many people that live in this district of various ages. We have support from various age ranges that support the students and want to make sure they have a great well rounded education. Academics are a major priority but there are students that do receive scholarships for the athletic and musical talents. It is important to remember that our property values will decrease if we do not have good schools in our township. The school are really the only thing we have and we need to make sure we are staying competitive so people will want to move into our community. Keep the students first and think about our future.

Wald

You hit the nail on the head, True Blue. Why the big push from the levy committee now? Why not in May? The threat of the pay-to-play fee. It's no coincidence.

samiam

Good point.

Bherrle

Wald,

Pay to play is not a threat. It's a reality. I totally disagree with your, and other no voter's, characterization that the latest proposed cuts, including pay to play, are a "threat." It is a very tough situation, and hard decisions have to be made.

It is very easy to criticize, it is much more difficult to propose solutions. What are your solutions? Specific solutions, not generalization? Are you gonna run for the board?

Wald

First of all, to say anyone voting no should run for the board to see if they can do better is shallow and egocentric. One doesn't need to run for the board to be allowed to dissent. Secondly, I've mentioned an idea I would support on other threads. Look it up if you're so inclined. Of course, any idea that isn't a brand-new $50 million palace is met with negativity. Thirdly, my point was that it took the pay-to-pay threat to mobilize such a widespread yes campaign. There was nowhere near the campaigning in May before the ptp threat was on the table. I dont remember seeing your name on the blogs prior to May's vote, though maybe I'm mistaken. Shows you where priorities are.

Vote4Perkins

How is it shallow and egocentric? Explain...

Bherrle

Wald,

I could care less what you think my priorities are. I will say again, it is not a threat, it is reality. You want to call it a threat to further your agenda and have more to complain about. There was no campaign for the May levy, however I did vote, and voted yes for both the renewal and the new levy.

I decided to start going public with my perspective before pay to play and the cuts were announced. As someone who looked in on the district from the outside when we moved here two years ago, and now has somewhat of the pulse of what is going on here, I have to say that it is very sad that there is so much negativity here. Very sad that so many people want to play Monday morning quarterback on every issue and article the SR publishes. Take it from someone who has had it far worse. You have a great school district, and a great community, and it seems to me that there is a portion of the population that just doesn't realize just how good we have it here. Even with a levy passage. The evidence is right here on the SR blogs. I've read and heard the comments of those who are against the levy for over a month now. I still can't figure out what you are trying to accomplish. It seems to me the goal, whether spoken or not, is to shut down the school district, or at least significantly weaken it. In my humble opinion, that's what will eventually happen if this coarse continues. That's not a threat, because I have no control over that, other than 1 vote, but it is my opinion.

Tell, when was the last time you were happy with the district, the board, the super? I say "run for the board" because enough is enough. I see so much mis-information and opinion based on wrong information on this blog in general, it's really sad. I am not on here to change your vote. I am on here to make sure the wrong information and opinion is pointed out and correct. The negative contingent has controlled the message for long enough.

Bherrle

Wald,

I spoke in anger yesterday, which is usually a mistake. My statement "I could care less what you think my priorities are" does not accurately reflect what I meant, and I apologize for that.

What I meant by that statement was that I don't feel it is fair for you to judge my priorities based on when I started blogging. If you really feel that way, for that reason, then I don't feel your opinion garners much weight. Again - I voted for both levies in May. PTP was not on the radar then.

To be clear, my priorities are for Perkins to remain a strong school district, and to remain strong in all facets of academics and athletics, because I believe they go hand in hand. I want this now, 10 years from now, 50 years from now, and so on.

I believe that current technology program is a part of being strong academically, and that the $200-300K spent per year on it is a wise investment in Perkins children's futures.

I believe that the new stadium, while perhaps creating some short term financial pain, was a very wise long-term investment, and it is was a decision that could not be put off any longer. I do not believe in nor agree with anyone who has the position that Dr. Gunner or the board value a building or stadium over teachers and students. Facilities are just as important as those who are teaching/coaching in them, and those who are being taught/coached in them. They go hand in hand, and our facilities need severe renovation, or replacement. Several studies have shown replacement is the better choice.

After numerous conversations with him during the past two months, I believe that Dr. Gunner is the right choice for our district. I believe he is being unfairly criticized in the public eye, being called a liar among other things. He has a vision for the district that will keep it strong long after he is gone. I wish more people could see that, and get to know him better.

I believe our current BOE to be made up of very intelligent, engaged, community oriented, fiscally conservative men, who have been faced with some very tough decisions in the past 4-5 years. It would be so much easier for them (and Dr. Gunner) to not take on these tough issues, and avoid the public scrutiny of those who disagree with them. Unfortunately, the disagreement comes out in public much quicker than the support does, and that does need to change. However if they did so, they would not be doing their jobs, which is to think about the future of the district, not just the right now.

Lastly, I believe it is a shame that the Sandusky Register provides such as easy forum for anyone who wishes to criticize, to make unsubstaniated accusations, and to spread false information anonymously. I'm not saying that is you Wald, just a general statement.

donutshopguy

Bherrle,

I presented another option to Mr. Gunner. He had no interest. It didn't fit his grand scheme. When are we going to get together for that talk?

Bherrle

Sorry DSG, just going back thru and saw this. How about Tuesday AM around 8 AM? Or Tuesday after 11:15 AM, or Wednesday morning. I'll suggest Jolly Donut on RT 250, but if you have a fav spot that is fine with me.

Thank you for the offer.

Princess87

Oh that would be Huron

Bherrle

To be clear, I mean RT 250 in Sandusky, across from Pat Cataans, Little Ceaser's, etc.

Vote4Perkins

If you moved to any other district the taxes would be considerably much higher.

44870 South

Don't be bullied into passing this levy. Vote "NO".

RMyer

The board has been very up front with all actions taken (or projected to be taken) as a result of levies not passing. There have been lists published in advance with potential cuts based on available finances and projected finances. This is the same scenario that is played out in districts around the state due to the inaction of legislators to fix our funding issue (I hope you also direct your frustration toward them). I have been at numerous board meetings where there have been open discussions about various issues. There are always some who agree and some who disagree. The board's job is to evaluate input, facts, evidence and to make the best decisions for the district both in the short and long term. I disagree with the "total ineptness" phrasing and would be happy to discuss that with you if you are so inclined.

I want to be a part of and live in a district that is moving ahead and has a long term plan to continue to offer a well-rounded educational experience. I also want a district that will entice those looking to locate to the area to decide to buy or build here. School districts help drive or maintain property values. Most of us have our wealth tied to our property. I prefer my property value to increase. Families who have children or are planning to have children investigate the school districts and rank that as an important factor when making a decision as to where to live.

I have lived in the district for 26 years and respectfully don't agree with your assessment. I believe recent and current board members have approached their elected responsibilities in an open and thoughtful manner (even when I may have disagreed); their rationale for making decisions has also been publicly discussed at meetings. I have not had any issue (lack of trust, being misinformed, etc) or met with resistance when asking for information or when speaking to a board member about facility or educational issues.

Resident51

Why do you feel you can't continue to provide a good education in the building you have?

We have a stem school, and a laptop program...shouldn't we be receiving "excellent" report cards? I heard the current report card is even worse.

You just don't get it. The majority of voters have continued to disagree with the board's decisions, yet they continue to force it down our throat. If this levy passes, it will be because of the threats they've made. And of course you're going to agree with what they say and do...you do in fact work for the school.

RMyer

I do work for the school; that is fact. I also worked in business for 19 years prior. However, I do not "agree with what they say and do" because I work for the school. My opinion in the matter does not affect whether or not I continue to work for the school. I have taken a lot of time over the past eleven years to understand the finances and operations of the district. If I believed that the facts and evidence pointed to a better direction than the road we are on, I would say so. I have addressed the school board both when I have disagreed and when I have agreed. I have not hidden behind anonymous postings and will not do so.

The fact is that the district has gone a long time (thirteen years) without a voted increase and only 2.9 mills in 18 years. The district has made it work by seeking revenue and controlling costs where possible. The district can't make up for the loss in $2.6-2.8 million dollars the past couple of years due to cuts in state funding and phasing out the business tangible personal property tax the businesses used to pay and other lost revenue through no fault of the district.

The district also has aging facilities to address (or ignore; I prefer the former). The high school was rated 92/100 with 100 being the worst; the report is still posted on the district website. The levy amounts put forward (4.98 mills in 2010/May 2013 and now the 6.73 mills) are needed to keep the district from sinking to state minimum standards. That would be a negative for all property owners. The inside millage move and the current levy amount is the least expensive for taxpayers. The longer the operational levy is delayed, the higher the cost will be. The longer the facility issues are delayed, the more expensive they will be to address. Using traditional bond levies will increase the cost to taxpayers overall in both the short and long term; I am not in favor of that strategy.

The laptops don't automatically equate to higher standardized test scores and neither did the old desk top computers that were used before the laptops. There are many factors and variables that need to be successfully addressed to achieve an excellent rating; each district has it own challenges-some more than others. The laptops do provide a much better tool for staff and students to complete work, research, and communicate, and they prepare students for what they will encounter in college or the work place. They also even the field for those students who are not able to have technology of their own at home.

No business asks potential employees what they scored on state standardized tests. They ask about communication skills, collaboration skills, group cooperation experiences, about creativity, etc. Those are some of the traits most sought after by businesses. Those traits are not tested by the state. The STEM/21st century learning experience (application of knowledge, thinking creatively, collaborating with others, etc.) is more valuable to students in the long run than any state test score.

As I have said before, the focus on these test scores is overblown (a discussion topic for another forum). It is a rare business that would agree to be evaluated or evaluate its own employees in the same manner as school districts are being evaluated.

believeit

This levy is not for a new building. Any discussions about a new building will not occur until after the community has an opportunity to vote in a new board. Even so, nobody feels that a good education cannot be obtained in our current facilities - losing teachers and programs will potentially lead to that. As far as the current report cards, there are many factors involved in those ratings, many socioeconomic. For instance, the high school has been rated "Excellent" since the ratings were devised, and overall district scores missed that rating by only a point or two in several cases. More importantly than those scores are how well prepared the students are for what they will face in the real world, thus the laptop program (nationally acknowledged). Whether facilities or programs, the truth is that the need for funding is not going away, or becoming less expensive. Cold as it sounds, pay now or pay more later.

Rosa

I can remember one of the teachers told the kids to tell their parents to "vote for the levy" to receive a good grade.... Sad...Almost as bad as our congress...

Bherrle

What teacher, what student, and when did this occur Rosa?

believeit

Again, those supporting the levy are delivering facts, and the no voters are coming up with unsubstantiated, and frankly, absurd stories. That is what is sad (although I agree with your congress comment)

Vote4Perkins

Don't post rumors...post facts.

citizen

Bherrle

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 10:35am

No threats have been made, no bullying has occurred, and nothing unethical has been done Wald.

WHAT? No threats have been made? Wow... what are you smoking?

Bherrle

Not smoking anything Citizen. What you characterize as threat is your choice, but I do not agree with you. That is your opinion.

I call it explaining reality, and having to make tough decisions. It seems there are a lot of naysayers who feel they could do a better job than the current BOE, as evidenced by continual criticism behind fake screen names and a computer. What are your specific solutions? No generalities.

Strong Schools ...

No threats have been made. The district has tried multiple times to pass a levy for new money. These are not threats they are reality. Vote Yes and quit holding grudges. Put your name on the ballot in November and solve the problems if you don't like it!

RMyer

I guess we have different definitions of what constitutes a "threat". The board has been up front with the consequences of levy failures, has published those consequences, and has followed through with some of those consequences due to financial constraints. The board members have also stated their intent to maintain as much of the educational experience for students as they can and to make sure that safety (i.e. bussing) is not compromised. The pay to play was the only option other than eliminating activities and sports or a large share of those. The only other way to approach this would be to be silent. Then, once a levy fails, announce what is going to happen (now that would be unethical). It is much better in my mind to know what the consequences will be prior to an event taking place. I can then make a more informed decision about my support.

meplus5

I have multiple kids in the district and own/reside in the township. My kids do not play sports at this time but that still wouldn't change my vote. Kids go to school to be educated...not to play sports and the education come second. My vote is no... For many reasons but mainly and most importantly our family cannot afford for our household budget to go up. It's not just senior citizens on fixed incomes, its families too. 2 parent household both working full time jobs.

Bherrle

meplus5,

I can relate to your financial position. My family can't really afford it either, but we will figure it out. Our home is under the $150,000 average, so the impact on us is less than $25 per month. Both my wife and I work FT as well, I am actually in between jobs right now. I don't assume at all what you spend your income on when I say this, but for us, it will be less eating out. One or two less fast food family dinners a month. We generally do this about once per week now, usually out of convenience and busy schedules. So we'll have to plan better. Again, I make no assumptions about your family, I'm just explaining how we will adjust.

I respectfully disagree with you on your comments about sports and education. I don't at all see Perkins putting sports first and education second. Sports teach life lessons, can lead to post-secondary educational opportunities, and in my opinion are an important part of an education, for those who choose to play sports. For other "extra-curriculars", the same can be said.

believeit

The fees are not just sports related. They are associated with any extra-curricular activities. That means music, drama, clubs and even organizations such as the National Honor Society. Of course only you have to decide what your budget priorities are, and the decisions are obviously not always easy. If any of your children do anything outside of the core curriculum (which I hope they do), any fee should the levy fail would most likely offset the levy increase.

Strong Schools ...

I understand you are having financial hardships. My family and I are too, but I am willing to make sacrifices with our family functions (movie night, pizza night, etc.) to make sure my children can get a great education and be successful in this competitive society. I want my children to have better opportunities than what I had. Someone voted for me and I need to pay it forward and vote for other people's children. Perkins Schools puts a lot of emphasis into their academics and they have great programs and technological opportunities for our kids. I am very pleased with the education and I will vote yes!

ohioredbabe

This community has not stepped up and given to the school system in 13 years! That is shameful. 13 years without a property tax increase????? Disgraceful. Education of our children should be a high priority for everyone in the community whether you have children in the school system or not. 18 teachers will loose their jobs if the levy does not pass. 18 people in or around the community jobless. And it seems that a lot of the vote no people are strictly voting no because they hold a grudge against Dr Gunner or the Board.

Wald

I'm not holding a grudge, but based on the stolen operating funds moved for new buildings, I simply don't trust them. I'm not going to vote to give my tax dollars away to spend to people I don't trust. I don't care about the supporters' attempts to justify previous manipulations. We'll have to agree to disagree on that.

ohioredbabe

FACT: Eighteen educators are going to loose their jobs.
FACT: We have the power to help them keep their jobs by voting yes.
FACT: No operating funds were stolen.
FACT: Property taxes have not increased in 13 years.

Wald

FACT: the BOE and super have lost the trust of much of the community.

ohioredbabe

So what are your solutions?

Wald

I've talked about them time and again in other threads which you can search. In the end, the millage move stripped the taxpayers of their voting rights, setting a dangerous precedent for this community. I'd like to continue living in a democracy, not a dictatorship, so I'll be voting no. Thank you, and goodbye.

RMyer

There are board members who are up for re-election in November. No one has lost the right to vote; no "dangerous precedent" has been set. As for board operations, all regulations related to state law and conduct of boards have been and will continue to be followed.

We elected the board members to make decisions; they made a decision they believed was the best at the lowest cost for residents given the facility and educational needs of the district's students and residents. After carefully reviewing the evidence and possible options that would result in higher cost to me as a taxpayer, I agree with the path taken.

donutshopguy

RMyer,

After reviewing the path explained by the school board and superintendent there will no need for public vote on the scope, design and cost of school buildings. They will have sole right and privilege to make those decisions.

All previous buildings prior to this millage move have needed the approval of the taxpaying public to proceed. Yes, from the beginning of Perkins Schools this fundamental right has been used. Now, this board wants you to give away that check and balance.

It is always a bad precedent to give up your rights to a bureaucrats. The school board's job is to oversee the financial needs of the school. Not control the process and eliminate the taxpaying public's vote.

ohioredbabe

It is your OPINION that the BOE and super have lost the trust of much of the community. FACT: You do not speak for the entire community.

Wald

FACT: Neither do you.

ohioredbabe

Wald - congratulations you have made a factual statement. I do not speak for anyone else but myself.

So what are your suggestions so that the 18 teachers are not contributing to the unemployment rate. This is a real problem that needs a real solution.

Vote4Perkins

That is not a fact...you can't prove that.

Bherrle

Wald - again, negatively spinning mis-information. Nothing was stolen. Nothing was done secretively. Three public meetings were held on the millage move. How many meetings should they have had?

I'm sorry that you feel manipulated. It is your choice to feel that way.

Bherrle

Wald,

The Funds were not stolen. I understand you disagree with the move, but it was the board's decision to make, not the voters. The board didn't have to, but it held three public meetings on the issue, before voting on it. Perkins is not the only school district moving millage. It is a very sound economic/financial decision.

Wald

I'm sorry you feel that it is a sound decision to take away the taxpayers' rights. As for me, I'll continue to support the democratic process, not dictatorship.

Bherrle

Wald,

You (and some others) and I will just have to agree to disagree on the status of taxpayers rights. I don't feel anyone's rights are being taken away. I'd love to explain in more depth in person.

Strong Schools ...

Wow...nothing was stolen. It is like moving money form your checking account to your savings account! People do it everyday to pay the bills. You may not trust the board but it is a poor excuse to not vote for the students. Take it out on the board in November! Wald, Why don't you run for the board? Support the students and vote yes!

44870 South

Don't be bullied into passing this levy. Vote "NO".

RMyer

No money was "stolen", no crime committed. Certainly not unprecedented in the state to move inside millage to provide for capital improvements due to lack of levies passing. The inside millage, or "unvoted" millage is provided by the state constitution and school boards have the authority to use it for operations or permanent improvement funds provided they have open, public discussions and those requirements were met. You may disagree with it, but it is not a crime.

Boards are responsible for facilities and district education policy. This board (and three separate reviews since 2008) recognizes that we have infrastructure problems that need addressed. This board has also made it known that not addressing the building issues and putting it off for some other board to deal with is not acceptable to them. I support their position; it was not an easy issue to take on as can be evidenced by the types of comments that appear on here. What is interesting to me is that there are shockingly few people who contact a board member directly to discuss this (even during the deliberation stage before the millage was moved)-I suspect that the majority of posters on here making comments have not done so.

The only other two options for facility renovation/construction are (1) ignore the issue, or (2) pass bond levies for each building. Going that route will cost all of us more taxes; I am not in favor of that. Are you willing to support and encourage the majority of taxpayers to support an operational levy of 5-6 mills, plus an additional 6-8 mills for the high school, then in 25-30 years (or sooner) another bond levy of 6-8 mills for the next building and so on (plus operational levies as needed)? I do not want to pay more for something that can be accomplished for less. It is already a higher cost at 6.73 mills vs. 4.98 mills just a few months ago, and that after having gone through a second round of layoffs and program cuts and increase to participate in extracurriculars. It will only get more expensive the longer we delay; I cannot support that.

Wald

I didn't read your post, as I'm sure it's the same old propaganda. As I said, we'll have to agree to disagree.

ohioredbabe

So what are your solutions?

DLK

I'll make it simple for ya....don't build.

ohioredbabe

I really don't need simple answers. I am an educated person and I like to make informed decisions. What are your solutions for the 18 teachers that are going to be unemployed? How do we prevent them from becoming unemployed?

Resident51

Oh oh, I have an answer for that one. Move inside millage back where it belongs....and use it to "operate" as it was intended.

If you want to blame someone for 18 people losing their jobs, programs being cut, pay to play fees....blame the board for their lofty ideas (stadium, laptop, inside millage, new school) before their employees.

I'll make myself clear, I do not want anyone to lose their job.

ohioredbabe

You have not given a solution. I am not looking for anyone to blame. Decisions that have been made are the past. We need to move forward with benefical ideas and solutions.

Vote4Perkins

Don't build...and then what? What would you do with the deteriorating buildings? What happens when you can't afford to keep patching?

RMyer

Wald: I am sorry you feel that way. I try to present my stance based on facts, evidence, and what makes the most sense to me given the situation. Reasoned debate/disagreement is healthy and should be encouraged; innuendo, name-calling, false accusations, character attacks, and purposeful misinformation should be discouraged (unfortunately, anonymous commenting encourages those), and we should work to eliminate those from our discussions at all levels.

Resident51

**sigh** RMyer, you spend too much time debating here, but you're not going to change the no vote. I hope Gunner pats you on the back for a job well done...but let's face it, he cares more about facilities than he does his people. Step away from the computer. Go enjoy the sunshine today. Visit your local amusement park. Go on a date. Do SOMEthing.

Vote4Perkins

Resident 51...you are on here a lot too.

ohioredbabe

It is called passion. Passion for our children passion for our education system passion for our community. WE are not here to change the minds of the vote no people. WE are here to help encourage real solutions. WE are tired to your cynical voices being the only ones heard in this forum. And WE are not looking for pats on the back from the super or the board. WE are here to encourage a positive future for the Perkins Community. WE do not want the Perkins School System and Community to cease to exist.

DLK

Yawn.

Stop drinking the Koolaid.

Strong Schools ...

I appreciate that RMeyer is on this blog stating the facts and keeping the public informed. Keep up the great work RMyer!

Bherrle

I agree Strong Schools, RMyer is doing a great job laying out the facts.

Strong Schools ...

I bet it is hard to read the truth because you can't argue with it. Don't be stubborn and stop holding grudges. Vote Yes!

44870 South

Don't be bullied into passing this levy. Vote "NO".

Tool Box

Fact: Voting NO especially since I just learned yesterday at the Fun Flop that Gunner is tacking on an additional 2mill to the August levy! I did not drink the Kool-aid yesterday like the rest of the robots!

ohioredbabe

Are you referring to the Perkins Fun Fest? I don't believe you that you were there. There was not a Kool-aid stand set up. And there definately were not any robots. Oh wait. You are trying to make a funny. You are trying to compare our community and school system with Jonestown. That terrible event where hundreds of people died by committing suicide. I do not find you humorous. That was a horrific event in history. Your sarcasim and attempts at humorous are not helping our community or our future.

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