Battle plans drawn

District seeks support for 10-year, 6.73-mill levy.
Alissa Widman Neese
Jun 18, 2013

Jason Bennett stood before a crowd Monday night to offer a simple but clear rallying cry.

As a contentious levy debate effectively divides the Perkins Schools community, Bennett urged a group of passionate levy supporters to consider it a unifying matter.

“The only way we’re moving forward is as a team, a community and as a cohesive school system,” Bennett said. “Put any personal interests aside and do this for our students and our school district.”

About 125 people gathered in the Perkins High School cafeteria for the kickoff meeting of Citizens for Perkins Schools, the district’s newly formed levy committee.

The group includes parents, teachers, school officials and township residents, all volunteers aiming to promote the district’s upcoming August levy.

The supporter turnout was at least 10 times that of the past levy campaign’s turnout, district communications director Chris Gasteier said.

“I won’t pass judgments as to why, because we’re just happy to see them here,” Gasteier said.

Perkins Schools is proposing a 10-year, 6.73-mill emergency operating levy on the August ballot, nearly 2 mills larger than a May proposal which voters overwhelmingly rejected. The levy would fund day-to-day operations for the district, including employee salaries and benefits.

Although the county auditor hasn’t yet certified its official amount, superintendent Jim Gunner has said the levy will cost the owner of a $150,000 home an additional $310 in taxes per year.

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This past week, board members approved about $2 million in district-wide reductions, including eliminating 15 staff members and hiking pay-to-participate fees to as much as $730 per sport for high school athletes. If voters approve the August levy, the cuts could be reversed and fees will return to normal.

Brandy Bennett, Citizens for Perkins Schools committee chair, organized Monday’s crowd into focused subcommittees with Jason, her husband. In the next couple months, subcommittee leaders will oversee various levy campaign efforts, including distributing signs, collecting funds, visiting residents door-to-door and dispersing information online and in-person.

“Everyone here is very passionate and ready to commit to getting this levy passed,” she said.

The group knows convincing a majority of township residents to vote in favor of the levy won’t be an easy task. Voters haven’t approved an emergency operating levy for the district since 2000, its only levy for new operating money in the past 18 years.

Still, the Bennetts are determined to do all they can to promote the cause. They moved to the area so their two children — now students at Perkins High School and Meadowlawn Intermediate School — could attend Perkins Schools. They don’t want to see the district’s stellar reputation marred by costly cuts, they said.

“There are still questions that need answered and still misinformation which we need to address,” Jason said. “We’re dedicated to doing it as a team. We’re all pulling in the same direction.”

Comments

VOTENO

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Vote Informed

A new building won't be build until we are fiscally stable. Although it would be great to have a new building, this levy is strictly for school funds. VOTE YES!

VOTENO

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Vote Informed

I cannot make this any easier to understand. This levy is for school funds. None of the money from this levy will go to the new building. Please visit http://perkins.k12.oh.us/Levy.aspx and you will see this to be true. Stop spreading false information. VOTE YES!

VOTENO

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Vote Informed

Question: Levy Money Use

If the levy passes in August, will any of that money be used for new facilities or building renovations?

Answer:

No. This is a general operating levy for the day-to-day operations of the school district. This money will be used for salaries, benefits, supplies and materials to operate the school daily. The Board previously has set aside the 5.2 mils of “Inside Millage” to be used for facility renovation or construction. The Board intends on using the “Inside Millage” funds to address school facility needs sometime in the future. At this time, any building project has been placed on hold until we can stabilize the day-to-day operations of the district.

I have the facts. VOTE YES!

VOTENO

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Vote Informed

We're the minority? You'll see, vote no. You'll see. They're not the lies, you are.

Vote4Perkins

I agree "Vote Informed," people are just writing with emotions and not with facts.

Vote Yes!

Strong Schools ...

Stay strong positive voters! Vote yes and support our students!

fifteenthgreen

Wasn't that long ago the teachers were crying for public support against the board and Superintendent while on Strike! Can't win either with these juveniles that can't even get the job done. Most got a job because they're either alumni or their parents taught in the system when the district was excellent with distinction. Will forever have their hand out. Pride, Tradition, Simply Efficient!

eriemom

" Most got a job because they're either alumni or their parents taught in the system when the district was excellent with distinction."

Who hires staff? When will we hire/retain core subject teachers based on objective data rather than subjective opinion?

Vote4Perkins

That was a different Board, different Superintendent, and a different Time.

so.....

I wish this sight had "like" buttons

Save R Students

This levy is for school funds, not a new building. I am with Vote Informed. VOTE YES!

VOTENO

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Vote Informed

You no voters are putting false information out there! The need for this money came from lack of state money! We recieve $500,000 less state aid today than we did in 2002. This levy is for day-to-day funds! VOTE YES!

bobshumway92

You yes voters are spreading false information. Move the inside millage back and get the money back for the stadium that we didn't need. Gunner has a group of scared people believing him. VOTE NO!

Vote4Perkins

Not to mention the 2 Million dollars in cuts from the state for next year

Wald

What's to say Gunner won't steal money from the "school funds" to build his new building? He's done it before, right? There is no trust in anything he says. Vote no!

Vote Informed

"Who's to say?" Gunner himself said that he wouldn't use any of that money for the new building! I copied this from the levy Q&A website (http://perkins.k12.oh.us/Levy.aspx)

Question: Levy Money Use

If the levy passes in August, will any of that money be used for new facilities or building renovations?

Answer:

No. This is a general operating levy for the day-to-day operations of the school district. This money will be used for salaries, benefits, supplies and materials to operate the school daily. The Board previously has set aside the 5.2 mils of “Inside Millage” to be used for facility renovation or construction. The Board intends on using the “Inside Millage” funds to address school facility needs sometime in the future. At this time, any building project has been placed on hold until we can stabilize the day-to-day operations of the district.

If you have any further questions ask the board at the link I provided. If you don't like the leadership, then vote them out! Don't punish our students and teachers because you don't approve of the board. VOTE YES!

bobshumway92

Like Vote NO said before. As soon as a levy passes they will be breaking ground on the new school. Move the millage back!

Vote Informed

We're not scared Bob. And we're not scared of you no voters either! We have the facts, and you have the opinions!

Question: Levy Money Use

If the levy passes in August, will any of that money be used for new facilities or building renovations?

Answer:

No. This is a general operating levy for the day-to-day operations of the school district. This money will be used for salaries, benefits, supplies and materials to operate the school daily. The Board previously has set aside the 5.2 mils of “Inside Millage” to be used for facility renovation or construction. The Board intends on using the “Inside Millage” funds to address school facility needs sometime in the future. At this time, any building project has been placed on hold until we can stabilize the day-to-day operations of the district.

Vote YES!

DLK

It's almost funny that supporters believe this levy is not for a new school.

Technically you are right. But don't you get it's to replace the operating money they moved to PI so they can build a school?

Yet you supporters - mostly parents and staff - want to blame us for voting no, for teachers losing job and for programs being cut. We support Perkins Schools. We don't support this plan.

bobshumway92

+1.

Vote Informed

The money shortage came from lack of state funding. If you think its funny that we believe Dr. Gunner, then you'll laugh real hard when you try to sell your house when property values plummet if this levy fails. (which it won't) VOTE YES!

bobshumway92

I don't plan on selling my house so I hope the value plummets. That means less tax money i pay that would be wasted by Gunner.

citizen

First sentence is either a lie or you are buying the propaganda.

RMyer

DLK-Please present your plan that will accomplish the goals of stabilizing operations and solving the facility issue, and which will not cost us taxpayers more than what is being asked for now or into the near future (2-5 years out)? Please provide some realistic numbers/projections. If you don't like the current plan for stabilizing operations and addressing the facility issues, then you should be prepared to offer a better one. During the past few years, there have been several options put forward. After reviewing the numbers, the current plan is the best option presented that accomplishes short and long term goals and is at the lowest cost to taxpayers. Should anyone commenting on here wish to review the numbers, please let me know or contact the board office.

What concerns me is that we will look back at the 4.98 emergency levy in 2010 and wish it had passed. We are now up to 6.73 mills, and I hope that we won't look back and hope we had passed this one. Passing this emergency levy (which expires and has to be renewed in ten years) now will accomplish short and long term goals. Waiting, delaying, etc. will only cause the amount of the levy to increase.

Strong Schools ...

The last levy we passed was in 2000. We have not passed a levy for new operational money for 13 years. It is time to take care of our schools and students. Only one levy has been passed in 18 years and that was the levy in 2000. Vote Yes!

Vote Informed

I agree 100%! VOTE YES!

bobshumway92

I'm wondering how many parents will open enroll in other districts or SMCC to avoid Gunners ridiculous fees.

Vote Informed

They won't have to when this levy passes. We have too much Perkins Pride to see something like this happen. VOTE YES!

bobshumway92

No way your levy passes.

Vote Informed

Our levy will pass. We have the facts and we have the support. I encourage you to visit http://perkins.k12.oh.us/Levy.aspx to read the Q & A and even ask the board a question. Please don't spread false information. We believe Dr. Gunner and we believe in our children, the future of our community. We're not naive. And we will do whatever it takes for this levy to pass. Don't punish our students and teachers as a result of your hatred towards the board.

44870 South

You are brainwashed.

bobshumway92

Vote Informed means voting yes because you believe the lies from Gunner and the Board.

Vote Informed

They're not lies, they are the facts. If you have any doubts or questions ask them personally instead of telling people of our community false information. http://perkins.k12.oh.us/Levy.aspx

citizen

Informed, allow me to inform you. Just because Gunner and the Board type something in a Q&A on their website, it doesn't make it fact.

Gunner also stated on video that if this levy doesn't pass we will "no longer have our district." And he will have to "dismantle the district." How can you believe a word that man says. He will say absolutely anything to get his new buildings built!

Vote Informed

And some people will take anything out of context to get people to vote no. This levy is for school funds due to the lack of state funding. VOTE YES!

Strong Schools ...

Dr. Gunner and the board have shared information at all of the board meetings. They have not lied to us but rather they have tried to inform us. They have been open about their decisions and why they have made them. They keep the student's best interests in mind when making their decisions. We need to step up and take care of our students and community.

Vote Yes for the Students!

RMyer

BSWA-In my opinion, voting informed means voting yes because you have reviewed the data and options and realize the best, least costly one has been presented to the community. Voting no due to personality or misperception or misunderstanding would be an uninformed vote.

bobshumway92

These parents want the levy to pass because they think they will have to pay thousands in fees for all their kids to play sports, etc.

Save R Students

It's not something we think, it's something we know. That's not the only reason we want this levy to pass. If it doesn't teachers jobs will be at risk and the value of our homes will decrease. Vote Yes!

Vote Informed

Totally agree with Save R Students! We as a community have a choice. $25/month or $730/sport. The choice is clear! I will be voting yes for the sake of my house value, for the teachers' jobs, and for our students' education. VOTE YES!

bobshumway92

Exactly! Gunner has you running scared with the threats! Too funny!!!

Vote Informed

This is not a laughing matter Bob. No family can afford to pay over $1,000 in pay to play fees. We're not scared and these aren't threats. We have Perkins Pride and we will get this levy passed for the students and the teachers! These are simply the reaction of lack of state funding and the fact that we haven't passed a levy since 2000. VOTE YES!

Vote4Perkins

I agree...

Look at your choices...

Vote Yes

Strong Schools ...

We want this levy to pass so can be operationally stable. Also, we do not want to see any of our amazing programs and teachers to disappear!

Vote Informed

I agree! Too much is at stake here! The programs that will be drastically cut down are programs we've been building up for years and years! Vote yes!

Strong Schools ...

I have submitted your question to the Perkins Local Schools Website. Please check there for your answer. You will also find other questions and answers available.

http://www.perkins.k12.oh.us/Lev...

fifteenthgreen

Thank you!

Strong Schools ...

The ratings have improved. Look at 2006 to now! The state mandated tests have been changed repeatedly and the state has adopted new common core standards. Times have changed and we can't keep looking to the past. We have to change the future.

Vote Yes in August!

44870 South

Strong...you are for sure a teacher or administrator, it is quite clear.

Wald

Until I see something legally binding that says Gunner can't use these funds for a new building, I'm voting no. There is absolutely no trust in him or the BOE to not use these funds for a new school. I inform myself based on Gunner's past practices, which is why I will vote no.

Strong Schools ...

This is a general operating levy for the day-to-day operations of the school district. This money will be used for salaries, benefits, supplies and materials to operate the school daily. The Board previously has set aside the 5.2 mils of “Inside Millage” to be used for facility renovation or construction. The Board intends on using the “Inside Millage” funds to address school facility needs sometime in the future. At this time, any building project has been placed on hold until we can stabilize the day-to-day operations of the district.

bobshumway92

Gunners 3rd shift of posters were busy last night. The robots were out in force.

Vote Informed

Just proving that there are more dedicated YES voters out there. We don't work for Dr. Gunner, we are simply promoting the levy so the teachers and students won't suffer the consequences of an uninformed no vote.

VOTENO

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Vote Informed

We'll see in August. We've only just begun. Citizens may not approve on Dr. Gunner's decisions, but we're not compromising on our children's education! VOTE YES!

VoteYesNow

"We've only just begun". That's your problem. You should have been stopping Gunner a few years ago from creating this mess. Vote no!

Vote Informed

This mess was not caused exclusively by Dr. Gunner, who has nothing but good intensions for our school district. It was mainly caused by the lack of state funding. If you do not approve of the board then I encourage you to vote them out. Please don't punish our students and teachers for the common hatred that arises from uninformed voters just looking to put the blame on Dr. Gunner. VOTE YES!

DLK

OK RMyer, since you asked...here is my plan for Perkins Schools' economic stability. Listen carefully because it is a complicated one.

Don't build.

RMyer

Have you looked at the projections from the various options? Your solution solves neither the short nor long term financial picture.

The New World Czar

Another uncomplicated solution would be decertifying the PEA and hiring of non-union teachers. Who do you think really is behind this levy? More tax $$$ => More OEA and NEA lobbying money. "For the kids"...HA!

Strong Schools ...

Both unions have given to help our schools financially:

Teachers Union agreed to a two year pay freeze to save $528, 000
Teachers Union saved the district $465,000 in insurance

Non Teachers took a four year pay freeze which saved the district over $647, 000.
Non Teachers saved the district $457,000 in insurance.

Both unions are aware of the situation and are trying to help as much as they can. Get your facts!

VOTE YES!

fifteenthgreen

Not helping with that "Effective" rating, though. Get your facts!

Bherrle

15th,

In response to your comment: "Not helping with that "Effective" rating, though. Get your facts!"

Below are all of the facts, not just the one that you seem to be focused on:

Here is a brief explanation of the Value-Added Measure.

http://stateimpact.npr.org/ohio/...

Here is a brief overview of how Perkins has faired on the ODE District Report cards from the previous ODE link.

Furry

08-09 Effectiive
09-10 Excellent
10-11 Effective
11-12 Effective

Meadowlawn

08-09 Effective
09-10 Excellent w/Distinction
10-11 Effective
11-12 Effective

Briar

08-09 Excellent
09-10 Effective
10-11 Effective
11-12 Effective

HS

08-09 Excellent
09-10 Excellent
10-11 Excellent
11-12 Excellent

District (with additional years)

03-04 Effective (Buccieri)
04-05 Effective
05-06 Continuous Improvement
06-07 Continuous Improvement
07-08 Effective (Rechtenwald/Gunner)
08-09 Effective
09-10 Excellent
10-11 Effective
11-12 Effective

Perkins seemed to decline significantly with the administration of Buccieri, the strike, etc. Things that have changed over the years include, among other things, the Curriculum Directors.

fifteenthgreen

Ohio gives public schools and districts one of six ratings. The state does not award schools letter grades, but the official ratings can be roughly translated as follows:

Excellent With Distinction = A+
Excellent = A
Effective = B
Continuous Improvement = C
Academic Watch = D
Academic Emergency = F

Those grades are based on:

The percentage of students passing state tests;
How well students score on state tests;
For elementary and middle schools, a calculation showing how much progress students made in a particular school year;
Attendance rates;
High school graduation rates; and
Whether or not the school or district meets federal standards. (Those federal standards are called Adequate Yearly Progress and include reading and math test passing rates and test participation, attendance and graduation rates.)

underthebridge

DLK +1

Rosa

We need Perkins & Sandusky to merge, what a great school system that would be!!! My address is Sandusky, not Perkins, Ohio. And for those Perkins residents who think they are so much superior to Sandusky, wake up and live in the real world!! Sandusky has so much more to offer and your children need to learn at a young age to effectively interact with all people. And also if you have a gifted child, enroll them in the new gifted program at Jackson school, Sandusky Schools. Kudos to Sandusky for offering this to the children and families of this area. My children are grown now, one graduating from Sandusky and one from Perkins, and I can honestly say that they both had great educations, so if we merge, think what a super power school we would have!!! Perkins Avenue should not be like a line drawn in the sand!!!! Let's do what is right for all the children. And really Perkins, it is way past time for uniforms!!! The way some of the jr. high and high school kids dress is awful.....

44870 South

I agree Rosa, I think he time has come....the problem is the adults and their selfish pride, who are equally as stuck in in their traditions. I too feel this would be a good thing....ONE large, diverse school district with tons of potential and opportunities...FRMC Field can be the soccer field.

PIrate4Ever

This is another thing that bothers me. "You are a Sandusky resident, not Perkins".... Okay then. Why are you on this blog? Not meant to be a rude question. But why is it that you are a Sandusky resident and worried about Perkins? You don't have to be. It is none of anyones business beside3s the Perkins Tax Payers and Students.

fifteenthgreen

Pride, Tradition, just Effective! Grade B

Pirate Mom

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Vote4Perkins

Thanks Pirate Mom...

fifteenthgreen

Wasn't that long ago the teachers were crying for public support against the board and Superintendent while on Strike!

Vote Informed

Dr. Gunner wasn't the superintendent when the teacher strike took place, and most of the board has changed since then. The strike took place 8 years ago. And I must say that you are very wrong with saying so much negativity about our teaches. It's such a shame. Our teachers are talented, intelligent, and hardworking individuals. I have 3 kids in the system, and two have graduated. I've never heard anything like you've just said and I have to say that I'm quite astonished about how little you know about our teachers and how much negativity you have to say about them.

Strong Schools ...

That was a different situation with different leadership. Get some real facts!

Support Our Students!

Bherrle

In response to your post: "Wasn't that long ago the teachers were crying for public support against the board and Superintendent while on Strike!"

It was 8 years, two Superintendents, and numerous board member elections ago.

Vote4Perkins

That was a different Board, different Superintendent, and a different Time...

fifteenthgreen

Same teachers!

Vote Informed

I'm in full support for the levy, the teachers, the students, and the board. I find it hard to believe that the no voters would not only spread incorrect facts, but criticize the teachers. If you have kids in the school system, and this levy fails, they will be affected. If they're in band, they'll loose the best band director that Perkins has ever had. We YES voters will not stand for the bullying from the no voters! Don't criticize the teachers and don't punish the students because you're mad at the board. VOTE YES for the students and teachers!

Finn Finn

You have the audacity to say you "will not stand for the bulling from the no voters!" Clearly, you have no clue what you look like to other people. Your sophomoric cheerleading isn't swaying anyone.

Vote Informed

We are simply informing residents of Perkins of what will happen if this levy fails. Think of all the students and teachers! Students will not be able to play their favorite sports because most families cannot afford to pay $730/ sport. By voting no, we as a community are punishing the students and making it harder for them to get the quality education that we did when we were kids. I intend for my kids to be able to play sports and be in National Honors Society, and all other activities they choose to be in this year. I am voting YES for the students! The teachers! And the community! Don't let the hatred of the board decide your vote. Think of the families that will be impacted.

Finn Finn

ZZZzzz . . .

Vote Informed

Yes, leadership. If you don't like the current leadership its your job to vote them out. Complaining does absolutely nothing but generate hatred and negativity. I encourage you to think about the situation and decide what's more important. The hatred of the school board, or the quality education for our students? I will be voting YES because I believe in our hardworking teachers and students and I will not let them be punished! VOTE YES!

fifteenthgreen

Unfortunately.....fifteen less!

Vote4Perkins

and....

Roz1110

Has anyone considered what Obamacare is going to do for people and their paychecks on Jan 1, 2014. For those voting yes or no this also has to be taken into consideration since most health care will be going up for people across the board. Will the teachers union take this into effect and adjust how much they pay themselves or will the schools portion of the health insurance go up? And why did the schools excellent rating change to effective and exactly what does that mean for college bound students?

Just some questions to open up a different discussion than voting yes or no. That seems to be pretty apparent to everyone involved how difference groups are voting.

Vote Informed

Roz1110- I encourage you to use the levy page (http://perkins.k12.oh.us/Levy.aspx), and you will get a full and complete answer to all of your questions directly from the board.

Bherrle

My opinion - Obamacare needs to be rescinded. I don't see it actually getting to the point of going into effect, especially with Obama's public approval numbers dropping fast. That issue is an important one, but not one I link into my thoughts about the levy.

Bherrle

Welcome to the discussion Roz1110.

Roz1110

Yeah and you all know who I am since I don't hide when I have something to say.

eriemom

@Roz: I know who you are. Welcome to the discussion. To answer your questions...

Contracts have been negotiated and all staff pay a percentage of the cost. What ever that cost may be.

I believe that district or building state ranking has no affect on individual student college admission. Colleges pay attention to SAT and/or ACT scores.

In my humble opinion we spend way to much time and money on tests. I also believe that our district makes staffing decisions based on coaching ability and community affiliation.

citizen

Gunner and the Board's plan has been playing out just as they want. Gunner and Board have somehow successfully managed (on this Board anyway) to turn the conversation of a building levy into one talking about teachers jobs, sports fees, programs, and the impending financial doom of Perkins Schools.

Sad, really, that some people fall for this.

Look at the facts. Look at history. This is a building levy. As soon as this levy passes, construction will being on the new high school and junior high school buildings. Jim Gunner has already taken out a $3,000,000 to design and plan these buildings. Obviously, this is a building levy with threats of cutting sports, teachers, band, programs, mesothelioma thrown in to make sure the tax increase is passed so Gunner can build his new school.

Vote Informed

Citizen, this is not a new building levy. Gunner has stated to the public that no advancements will be made on facilities until the district is financially stable. Please don't release false information to the public. The of money shortage came from lack of state funding. Did you know Perkins Schools is the lowest tax paying district in Erie County? Also, with 500+ more students than 5 years ago, the district operates with less staff. If this levy fails, your property value will decrease, 14 amazing teachers will loose their jobs, and families will not be able to afford to play sports or be in any extra curricular activities. Those activities include NHS, Aim For Excellence, and Student Council, programs colleges look for the most. By voting no because of the rumors and lies that are being created only punishes the students and teachers. Voting no doesn't affect Dr. Gunner at all, except for the fact that he will have to continue making cuts. His job won't be lost. The "no votes" aren't proving a point, they're just hurting the students.

Finn Finn

Sweetheart, get a job. You're boring everyone.

Vote Informed

I am voting YES for the students and the teachers! I cannot afford to pay thousands of dollars in Pay to Play fees, but I know my family can cut back on something to pay $25/month. Think of the students.

Finn Finn

ZZZzzzzzz . . .

Save R Students

Finn Finn-Vote Informed is telling the truth. My household cannot afford these fees. I want my kids to have the best education possible. I don't want 14 of the most talented teachers at Perkins to loose their jobs because of how this community hates the school board. The clear decision is to vote yes!

Finn Finn

Do you think I care if Vote Informed's kids play sports or not? Do you think Vote Informed cares how another $30/mo. in new taxes is going to effect my family? Do you think the teachers stay up at night worrying if I will lose MY job due to cut backs? I assure you, they don't.

Vote Informed

Finn Finn- We're also on a tight budget in my household. This will affect us as well, but I would much rather pay $25 a month rather than thousands in fees just for my kids to participate in regular activities. The tax increase is $25/mo for a house valued at $150,000. I have my decision made and I will be voting YES for the students and teachers! You can make fun of my decision as much as you want.

Finn Finn

ZZZZZzzzzz. . .

bobshumway92

Loose? Did you learn that from Perkins?

PIrate4Ever

If anyone has even cared to notice. Not one of the Support bloggers has been rude to the no voters. But in my view, it seems that most of the "No" voters are rude to everyone else. I'm just point this out.

citizen

"Citizen, this is not a new building levy. Gunner has stated to the public that no advancements will be made on facilities until the district is financially stable. Please don't release false information to the public. The of money shortage came from lack of state funding"

Again, just totally false or misleading comments from you, VoteInformed.

I will ask, yet again, what SPECIFICALLY does "financially stable" mean? I will tell you what it means to Gunner and the Board- as soon as this "operations" levy is passed.

Reduced state funding had been projected or known for several years. That is not the reason Perkins Schools are allegedly on the brink of financial disaster. It is because Gunner and the Board decided to move millions of dollars from operations funds into building/permanent improvement funds against multiple, overwhelming taxpayer voters.

Your quote above is misleading and informed at best, and flat-out lies at worst.

Finn Finn

Let's see how long it takes Vote Informed to give us another cheer. Rah-Rah

fifteenthgreen

Compare for yourself: Grade: B Value: BELOW State Rank: 391
http://stateimpact.npr.org/ohio/...

District OH Rank 11-12 10-11 Per.Ind Value Low Inc.
Edison Local Erie 247 A A 100.8 Met 33%
Huron City Erie 124 A A 103.7 Met 30%
Margaretta Erie 412 B A 97.6 Met 37%
Perkins Local Erie 391 B B 98 Below 33%
Vermilion Local Erie 371 A B 98.4 Met 41%
Port Clinton Ottawa 430 B B 97.2 Met 47%
Put-In-Bay Ottawa 21 A A 108.7 Met n/a
Danbury Local Ottawa 241 A A 101 Met 45%
Oak Harbor Ottawa 240 A+ A 101 Above 34%
Norwalk City Huron 332 B A 99.3 Met 49%
Sandusky City Erie 585 C C 86.5 Met 78%

Save R Students

Voting yes for this levy will save 14 beloved teachers jobs, I won't have to pay thousands of dollars in fees for my kids to play sports, and my house value won't decrease.

Wald

Vote no to the Perkins building levy this August. The levy might say its for operational funds, but Gunner moved operational funds before and spent $1.7 million on a new stadium. Think of the programs and teachers that money could now save! Gunner took taxpayer money before! He'll do it again! Spread the word to vote no! I am!

citizen

We now have the same Gunner supporters under multiple user names, I assume, in an effort to boost perception that there is support for this levy.

VoteInformed and Save R Students is the same person! Both spelled "lose" "loose" and both are concerned Perkins will "loose" "14 of the most talented teachers"

fifteenthgreen

......or they both went through the English program there. Grade B is acceptable!!!

Save R Students

Just because we want teachers to keep their jobs, doesn't mean we are the same person! With 500+ more students than 5 years ago, the district is operating with less staff. If you take more teachers away, the education at Perkins will go down and they will have more students that fail rather than pass.

eriemom

The B grade could be acceptable for a district/building with a very diverse population. Just like a B grade could be acceptable for a class with high expectations. Think about the difference between maybe a general math class and a calculus course. As a parent I would weigh the two differently.

Finn Finn

I see what you're saying. Keen observation!

Save R Students

VOTE YES! The cost per month for the average homeowner will only increase by $25.76 for a $150,000 home value. I would rather pay $25.76 a month more than $730 a sport.

Finn Finn

ZZZZzzzz . . .

eriemom

I observed the same thing early last spring. Two no voters consistently misspelled no one to noone.

Save R Students

The last levy that was passed was 13 years ago in May, 2000. Vote Yes! We are in need of a levy to pass.

Erie County Resident

You want a YES vote from the taxpayers?
2 things need to be done to acquire them.

1. Move the millage back where it belongs.

2. Remove Gunner immediately.

Bherrle

Did You Know?

In the 2012-13 School Year, Perkins spent $9,836 per student, which was less than Perkins spent 5 years ago, and is $1,800 dollars per year, per student, under the statewide average.

bobshumway92

Back up. How much did we spend per student? How does open enrollment cover this? Don't we get $5500 per student? No wonder they're broke! VOTE NO!

Bherrle

If it weren't for open enrollment, the spend per student would be higher. It is not accurate to say we lose money on OE students.

VOTENO

Are you kidding me? We spend more to educate open enrolllent kids than what they bring in? Are you kidding me? I'm glad this was put out there! Get the word out! Vote no! This is insane!

Bherrle

If it weren't for open enrollment, the spend per student would be higher. It is not accurate to say we lose money on OE students.

Perkins brings in over $3,000,000 in open enrollment revenue. 536 Open Enrolled students, $5,700 per student in state funding received. Perkins spends roughly $900,000 in additional staff/teachers to support the extra student body brought in by open enrollment.

Open enrollment is a revenue stream of $2M plus after expenses.

Strong Schools ...

Absolutely False...Open enrollment has brought in million of dollars to our district and kept us off the ballot for that last five years. The state has cut funding and now the voters have to take responsibility.

Vote Yes!

VOTENO

I thought we made money from open enrollment and that open enrollment saved us from a levy a few years ago! SOMEONE NEEDS TO EXPLAIN THIS! SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE FIRED!

Bherrle

Perkins brings in over $3,000,000 in open enrollment revenue. 536 Open Enrolled students, $5,700 per student in state funding received. Perkins spends roughly $900,000 in additional staff/teachers to support the extra student body brought in by open enrollment.

Open enrollment is a revenue stream of $2M plus after expenses.

Strong Schools ...

The state has cut over two million from our budget. This is out of the district's control and we need to step up as a community and take care of the students.

We have the lowest tax rate for schools in Erie County. When this levy passes we will still be 7 mils under the state average.

Vote Yes!

VOTENO

Why aren't we charging the parents for the balance the state doesn't cover for open enrollment? Someone needs to be fired if we are paying for kids from other districts!

Bherrle

Because by law that is not allowed. No one needs fired.

bobshumway92

How does no one need fired? We are making up the difference as taxpayers of this district to educate kids from other districts! How is this not a fireable offense? Especially after we were told that we are making money off open enrollment! Lies lies lies lies!

Bherrle

Perkins brings in over $3,000,000 in open enrollment revenue. 536 Open Enrolled students, $5,700 per student in state funding received. Perkins spends roughly $900,000 in additional staff/teachers to support the extra student body brought in by open enrollment.

Open enrollment is a revenue stream of $2M plus after expenses.

Bherrle

No one is lying Bob.

bobshumway92

Doesn't open enrollment only bring in under $6k per student?

Bherrle

Answered above Bob.

RMyer

Open enrollment has netted this district $2,000,000 dollars per year or more since it's inception. It is the equivalent of 7 (give or take) mills in operating revenue for the district. If it is a money losing proposition, then 480 districts in Ohio are losing money with it. See the last sentence in the quote below.

"According to the Ohio Department of Education, about 430 of the state’s 611 school districts now have open enrollment policies in place. Based on data from Fordham’s recent statewide study on student mobility, as of 2011 (last year for data) more than 61,000 students attended a public school outside of their home district. There are 29 districts in the state with 20 percent or more of their students as open enrollees, and 12 districts have more than 30 percent of their students enrolled in another school district. Since the fiscal crisis of 2008 more and more Ohio districts have embraced open enrollment policies" (Thomas Fordham Institute). In the same article is this quote from a superintendent, "Open enrollment is our life blood."

Perkins students leave our district for other districts taking state money with them to their new school district. The funding problem in Ohio has forced the majority of districts to open enroll. The state has reduced funding to Perkins by $2,000,000 and counting the past couple of years. Those losses have offset a large portion if not all of the benefit we received from open enrollment dollars.

To continue to state that open enrollment students cause a net revenue loss to the district is incorrect.

eriemom

@Bob: Dude you don't have to read the entire explanation. Just subtract (rounded):

$3,000,000
<900,000
__________
$2,100,000

Bherrle

Open enrollment brings in $5,700 per student. The district spends under $1,700 per open enrollment student on extra admin/teaching staff. This results in a $4,000 per OE student revenue stream.

YepThatsMe

Wow a lot of negativity on these blogs, and misinformation from most of the No People. I can respect anyone for their thoughts and values, but it should be based on something that is true and factual. The Register, and especially this blog, is more like the National Enquirer than an actual site of facts and information. Venting on here is fine I suppose, everyone is entitled to that. I have spent a great deal of time researching the mils, property tax, and other things that I did not understand. These are the things people seem the most misinformed about. I believe the information presented by the Super to be true, based on what he and his staff have from the state and treasurer. The school board has dug themselves a hole for sure, with misinformation and lack of communication, but as they say, "It is what it is". Where this school system is now financially is a culmination of a lot of things, some preventable, some not. The bottom line is, I am not going to turn my back on my kids, my neighbors kids, or Joe-Schmoes across town. I graduated from this school and the community was there to support my education and extra-curricular activities when the time came to step up. Now its our turn. This levy is needed to keep the good things- no great things going that this school system offers!

As for a new building- I agree with some of you. That new high school will be built sooner or later. But do you know why? Because it is warranted. I do not know or recall the exact way the State of Ohio did its evaluation on the high school, I just remember the review was bad- almost emergency-like because of the infrastructure and underlying problems, not visible to the public. In my opinion, we blew it a few years ago when the proposition for a new building- funded heavily by the government- was shot down at the polls.

Its very simple to me. I would vote for a school levy no matter where I lived. Its our civic duty really.

bobshumway92

"Misinformed" A keyword Gunner told these yes voters to use on here.

Finn Finn

Yes, "civic duty" is another key phrase for them. They don't see how offensive they are being when they throw that phrase around. As though we haven't been paying our taxes and supporting the schools all our working lives. Incredibly self-righteous and pious. Unbelievable!

bobshumway92

I served 6 years in the military. These do gooder yes voters don't need to be lecturing me on civic duties. Did they serve?

Finn Finn

Exactly. And thank you for your service.

Bherrle

Thank you for your service Bob. My father was a Marine and served in Vietnam as a machine gunner on a Helo.

Wald

Did you know the Erie County Health Department inspected Perkins High School and said it was fine? Of course, they weren't paid by Perkins like the other inspector was. Hmmm...

eriemom

The health department inspects for immediate threat.

Bherrle

Erie mom is correct. Not long term chronic threat.

fifteenthgreen

So if a student busts one of those asbestos tiles, what threat level is that considered?

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