School board cuts $2 million from budget

Sports and extracurricular activities dominated discussions Wednesday evening as Perkins Schools leaders agreed to hike pay-to-participate fees and eliminate 15 staff members.
Alissa Widman Neese
Jun 13, 2013

 

The topic was fitting for the packed Perkins High School auditorium, where more than 200 people cheered on their side of a contentious levy debate with applause and praise.

Reductions approved Wednesday totaled about $2 million, a result of a failed May levy and state funding cuts, board members said.

Pay-to-participate fees for high school students increased to $730 per sport for the upcoming school year, up from $150 approved in April. Costs for dual enrollment classes, clubs and music activities also increased substantially for high school and middle school students.

“I don’t approve of this, and I don’t think you guys understand,” a mother shouted from the back of the crowded auditorium. “I want my son’s senior year to be a good one, not ‘mom and dad couldn’t pay for me to play my sports.’”

Board president Matt Koisor told parents no board members think the cuts are a good idea, however, they do recognize their necessity.

“Unfortunately we only have a certain amount of money to balance our budget,” Koisor said. “None of these cuts are cuts we want to make.”

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If township voters approve the district’s August levy, the reductions could be reversed and pay-to-participate fees will return to normal, superintendent Jim Gunner said. The district is proposing a 10-year, 6.73-mill levy, nearly 2 mills larger than its May proposal.

Before Wednesday’s cuts, Perkins Schools was projecting a $2.3 million deficit for the upcoming school year, with a budget of about $21 million, according to its most recent five-year financial forecast. It was set to spend all its reserve cash by 2015.

In early April, board members approved two rounds of permanent cuts totaling $12 million for the next four years. 

In addition to sports fees, several parents also voiced concerns Wednesday about cuts to music and art programming.

Conversation was calm, but tense, until parent Jason Dulaney commanded attention with an objective perspective. He criticized the board’s ineffective communication strategies, but also reprimanded voters for going to the polls without proper knowledge of the issues.

An angry “no” vote doesn’t punish board members or administrators — it only punishes students, said Dulaney, a levy supporter.

“I don’t want you to vote ‘yes’ and I don’t want you to vote ‘no,’” he said. “I just want you to vote informed.”

Levy committee members, many district parents, remained in the auditorium after the meeting to recruit supporters for their cause. They will kick off their campaign with a meeting 7 p.m. Monday in the Perkins High School cafeteria.

Township voters haven’t approved an emergency operating levy for the district since 2000.

Perkins Schools cuts approved

•Furry Elementary School: 3 teachers (art, music, physical education)
•Meadowlawn Intermediate School: 5 teachers (art, music, computer, gifted, physical education)
•Briar Middle School: 2 teachers (computer, music), 1 guidance counselor
•Perkins High School: 2 teachers (health, Chinese)
•District Office: 1 communications director, 1 EMIS secretary, full pay-to-participate fees

TOTAL SAVINGS: About $2 million for upcoming school year

Pay-to-participate fee amounts approved

•High school athletics: $730 per sport
•High school extracurricular clubs: $150 per club
•High school band or choir: $220 per music participation
•Middle school athletics: $185 per sport
•Middle school clubs: $150 per club
•High school dual enrollment classes: $300 per class per semester

Comments

Foryourinformation

WOW!!! Gunner and his crew are not going to stop until they smudge all of the grit and grim of the failed May levy back in the faces of the tax payers. What a vindictive and very vengeful way of saying "I am going to show you all"! Get parents and students more upset than what they are and but also place the blame on them for pulling all of these kids in from outside of the Perkins District and making the tax payers of Perkins pay for them being there. Yeah...I know, their money follows them, but think about you as a parent, can you raise 1 child each year on $5500 dollars. No! There are always undisclosed expenses that comes with every child that will far exceed the planned amount. If all these parents want to live outside the Perkins School zone but attend the schools, have them pay tuition to attend Perkins Schools to make up the difference instead of making the residence of Perkins pay. It's wasn't the choice of the Perkins residence for Gunner and his Board to accept all these open enrolled kids. He even publically admitted "if it wasn't for Sandusky..." well make those parents be the ones to make up the difference. But again...these scare tactics always come out when they want to get their point across and make the citizens pay for not doing what they asked. Gunner and the Board has overstayed their welcome and made some very poor choices relating to the district. You all failed the people...suck it up as a loss...and move on and out for new leadership. Good citizens of Perkins, don't get trapped in their threats and desperate tactics to fulfill their selfish agenda. You will definitely pay them if you fall for it.

BooBeeDoo'

I agree. Why don't we ask the residents of Bryan Ohio School District why Gunner is no longer their superintendent. They drove him out of their district. Why do you think he's driving to Perkins daily? Also, Gasteier's position as Communication Director is a made up position so that he can retire with full benefits. I think the residents of Perkins should do their homework before they vote yes on this unnecessary levy. As I stated numerous times, Meadowlawn School runs just fine with one administrator. Why does Gunner insist on having two administrators at Briar School (the amount of students in both school are almost identical). Finn retired last year and was hired back by Gunner and the board at $77,000 and getting his retirement pension. A job reduction at Briar (Finn) could save two teaching positions or be used for something worthwhile. My taxes are almost $6,000 yearly and once again Gunner is still living in his hometown with no plan on moving to Perkins and paying taxes. I wonder what Gunner is paying in taxes? Also, why should we pay for someone elses children to play sports? My children are grown and we did our fair share. Why should I have to pay for someone else's child to play sports? My family have been lifelong members of this community and Perkins graduates. We have a strong bond in this community and it offends me that Gunner wants us to continue to pay more and more when his doesn't live or never will live in Perkins. Go back to where you came from GUNNER, we won't be sad to see you leave just like the residents of Bryan Ohio!

UgtaBkdnMe

Good points yet you have made several negative comments online about Huron residents who supported the removal of Fred Fox over the last 12 months. Why is it okay for you to be anti-Gunner and to question the "made up" position? Don't you remember criticizing anti-Fox supporters and defending our transportation/maintenance director's position? At least Huron took action - a new superintendent and no more made up position so a close buddy can retire with full benefits. Maybe what your BOE needs is our "three stooges" to clean up your mess !

BooBeeDoo'

UgtaBkdnMe:I never defended the transportation director in Huron. However, at least Fred Fox lives in the Huron School District. If Fox and the BOE tried to raise taxes for residents, they too would also be paying them. Gunner is not affected by raising Perkins Township taxes because he doesn't live in Perkins and has no intention of moving. What does he care if we as Perkins residents pay more and more taxes. You're correct, maybe the BOE should consider getting RID of Gunner. Do us all a favor. The problem with that is the Perkins BOE doesn't have enough b_ _ _s to do so!

Nemesis

Ugta, your response assumes Fox and Gunner are identical in their conduct and discounts the possibility that one super's conduct rises to the level of warranting dismissal while the other's does not.

Yes, I know, logic is hard.

UgtaBkdnMe

Nemesis, I don't know enough about Gunner other than what I read. I am merely pointing out that Boo has made some pretty strong comments about those of us who support the board majority in Huron. I just find it ironic that Boo criticizes your super but thought we Huronites are wrong.

Nemesis

Your response is a classic example of doubling down on not thinking.

You don't need to know ANYTHING about Gunner to see there's nothing ironic about it. We have two different situations, two different sets of circumstances, two different superintendents, two different chains of events, and you can't get your head around someone drawing two different conclusions.

Just because he thinks one superintendent in one district hasn't done anything worthy of dismissal doesn't mean he has to come to the same conclusion for every superintendent in every district until the end of time.

Perhaps a more stark illustration will help you grasp the concept:
If he defended a superintendent who was being threatened with dismissal because he got a parking ticket, would he then be obligated, according to your sense of irony, to then defend another superintendent who murdered a student in front of hundreds of witnesses?

UgtaBkdnMe

You are thinking too deep here, Nemesis. I find it ironic that Wald was pretty ugly with his words about Huronites but it's ok for him to dislike your super. Here's a thought: maybe the people in Perkins know more about the situation beyond the Register to come to an informed conclusion and the same with the people in Huron. Notice that I never said you have a gem of a superintendent. Again, I find it ironic that he's right about his super and we're wrong about ours. If you don't live in a community, you don't know all of the details!

Wald

Putting words in my mouth again. I never said anything ugly about "Huronites" in general. I've commented on the stooges and their vendetta and a few posts from stooge supporters I found ridiculous. You have a real problem with generalizations.

Raoul Duke

Music and art should be eliminated totally and they should add classes on how to handle a weapon, and how to identify illegal aliens and terrorist groups. Otherwise we are just sitting ducks, this generation of pansy artsy hippies.

Perkins2060

Sounds legit.

Strong Schools ...

Duke,

That is a very interesting approach but I don't think this is appropriate for our Furry students or any students for that matter. The Perkins School District provides multiple opportunities for our students to succeed in academics, arts, and athletics. We need to prepare the students for the 21st century and provide a quality education. A lot of our students receive scholarships in all of the three "a" areas. They will have less resources to a scholarship if we cut arts and athletics.

Weapons, aliens, and terrorist groups are not apart of the common core standards. We need to stay focused on our students! Vote Yes!

Nemesis

So they can produce more people like you who don't grasp sarcasm?

Raoul Duke

Football and basketball should still be free since they bring in all that money in ticket sales. Let those pansy golfers, runners and tennis players pay to play.

Raoul Duke

Maybe now those open enrollment kids will go back where they belong and play for free.

God Of Thunder

I don't understand how, in just only 3 months, they are asking for a levy, 2 mills larger than the one in May.. Gee...That's the way to get support..

Strong Schools ...

Thunder,

The millage has gone up because the state is sending out new information about their budget. They have to have their budget in by July 1 but it keeps changing. The state has predicted that we will be receiving less money than what we have already lost. The state has cut 2 million from our district and we could see more loss.

Nemesis

Except all the money they need is right there, sequestered off into a slush fund for building s shiny new building that they don't need.

Vote4Perkins

Even if they moved the millage back, they would still have to ask for a levy in a year...

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

Pirate Mom

The points made here that don't jive with your position do not necessarily come from ignorant followers of Gunner, teachers, etc. They are our opinions formed by attending meetings, going into the schools to see for ourselves, and fact finding. We have our rights to give pro-levy information the same way you have your right to post your position. We are not going away; we've just decided to become more vocal to support our schools. Vote yes on August 6.

Vote4Perkins

Thank You Pirate Mom

Common Sense

Go to the BOE meetings to ask that question. Become informed! I wanted this published under the head scratcher who asked about getting support. Yet, now I realize that this could fit so many of the "vote no" followers.

Just Thinkin

Can we say BLACKMAIL ,VOTE NO ! My wages were cut by 50% Plus when I was forced to retire from GM,Let the Honda and Toyota supporters pay, I remember when everyone cried about the over paid auto worker, Well ya'll seem to be hurting without them, And I for one WILL NOT pay anymore tax I just can not afford it, As for sports tsk ,tsk Chinese oh well, VOTE NO !, save our lifestyle,take care of #1, We need to vote a new board and get the voter's to revamp the State's funding and tax allotments is what we need to get done.

Strong Schools ...

Our students had nothing to do with the auto workers losing their jobs. I am sorry for your situation but please do not take out on our students.

Majority of the people voted our board members into their positions because we believed they would make the right choices for our district. If you are unhappy, then do not vote for them again when their name is on the ballot. But do not take it out on the students or the teachers.

All we have is our schools! We do not have a community center or something else that defines us. We need to take care of what we have and keep the Perkins Pride.

The state has cut so much from our district and the administration can not control their actions.

VOTENO

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Nemesis

They don't need any new millage - they have the money they need right partitioned off in the slush fund earmarked for a new building that isn't needed.

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

Pirate Mom

The points made here that don't jive with your position do not necessarily come from ignorant followers of Gunner, teachers, etc. They are our opinions formed by attending meetings, going into the schools to see for ourselves, and fact finding. We have our rights to give pro-levy information the same way you have your right to post your position. We are not going away; we've just decided to become more vocal to support our schools. Vote yes on August 6.

Common Sense

Since you were "forced" to retire from GM, why don't you also tell us what your compensaiotn package for retirement was? Locally, many of those workers felt the package was good. Delphi salary retirees weren't so lucky...

TrollingRageind...

"Let the Honda and Toyota supporters pay,"
Unfortunately, it's Honda and Toyota opening factories in America, and not America car companies.
GM is building a $1.3 billion factory in China, while Honda and Toyota, the foreign companies, are opening factories in America. Unfortunately our government used our tax dollars to bail out struggling companies, GM included, for their own failures.

Vote4Perkins

Its not just sports and Chinese...its is Physical Education, Music, Art, Computers, Gifted Education, Guidance Councilors....Could you imagine going to school without these classes?

yesshedid

FORYOURINFORMATION and GOD OF THUNDER: did you even bother to come to the meeting last night?? Doesn't sound like it. PLEASE inform yourself before you go spouting off like you are an expert on this matter! Don't punish the kids because you don't like Gunner or the Board. "We" put the board in place therefore WE hired Gunner. If you don't like it, vote someone else in next time. Don't make the kids suffer!

Foryourinformation

Yesshedid: "FOR YOUR INFORMATION", you don't know if I was at the meeting last night or not, and I don't have to answer to you as to who or what issue I vote for any time I go to the voting polls. So before you "spout off at the mouth," why don't you inform yourself before you get on this blog speaking out of turn as to where I was, my knowledge of the situation(s) at hand, and what or who I vote for. I don't have to defend my point to you, but I will say again...it's not the taxpayers of the Perkins Community that are making "the kids suffer," but the over 300 families that live outside the Perkins District who don't pay taxes to the school system but to the school system in the community they live in, but are expecting the Perkins residence to make up for their kids attending. If you are on an already tight budget in your home and taking care of your family on the income you have, are you going to take on someone elses kids without the extra necessary means to do so. I don't think so! It will take away from your own childrens livelihood and the extras that you are saving for them to have the necessities and extras that you would provide. My point is...instead of draining a well that is already dry from the Perkins taxpayers, replenish that well with a tuition for those students who do not live in the Perkins District and pay taxes so that the students and families of the Perkins Community "do not suffer" any more because of this disaster that was created by Gunner and his crew. Yes...Gunner is to blame in many ways and he will NOT be affected if this levy fails again because OH...HE DOESN'T LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY EITHER TO PAY A PENNY OF TAXES TO THE DISTRICT!" Now why don't you stop spouting off and get your own self informed!!!

Lynn222

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Perkins2060

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Pirate Mom

The BOE made the decision to go with open enrollment to fill classrooms and bring in much needed money that 13 years of levy failures did not. What were your reasons for voting no on all of those levies? I voted yes all those years and will vote yes on August 6.

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

Pirate Mom

The points made here that don't jive with your position do not necessarily come from ignorant followers of Gunner, teachers, etc. They are our opinions formed by attending meetings, going into the schools to see for ourselves, and fact finding. We have our rights to give pro-levy information the same way you have your right to post your position. We are not going away; we've just decided to become more vocal to support our schools. Vote yes on August 6.

RMyer

Not "blackmail"-the result of 18 years with only 2.9 mills in additional operating funds coupled with massive state cuts to local school districts ($2,000,000 and counting for ours) that will not be sent back under the current state administration. The district has done a lot of work to increase revenues and control expenses. We are 14 mills under the state average, 7 mills under the next lowest district in the area. During the 18 year period other districts have passed additional operating levies (1 other local district has passed 26 mills in additional levies during the past 18 years).

Perkins spends less administrative dollars per student than other local districts. Spend a couple of weeks at the middle school, and you will understand why an assistant principal is needed there (and at the high school). Middle school and high school students come with a lot of issues that have to be addressed; wouldn't be possible for one administrator to handle that plus all of the other daily operational functions and do it to any degree of effectiveness.

The levy amount continues to go up because of the timing. The longer and bigger the deficit spending occurs, the greater the levy amount becomes. It will continue to rise the longer it is put off. Happens in every district in the state. If the state comes in, the amount of the levy will still increase until one is passed (research what happened in Huron, Lorain and other districts under fiscal emergency).

The board members all live in Perkins and are making decisions that affect their school age children as well (four have children in the district currently). They are not "blackmailing" themselves; doesn't make sense. In the past 18 years, levies have failed under superintendents who have lived here and who haven't; the board makes the final decisions about school operations and facilities, not the superintendents. Personally, I believe this board has attempted to put the best programs and least costly options in front of the community. They stepped up to run for office and have attempted to keep the district as one of the best in the area. Now, they need some financial assistance from the community.

Wald

Of course you believe in this BOE, since you teach in Perkins. Kind of nullifies your objectivity, wouldn't you say?

Perkins2060

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asecretlife

Mr. Myer being a teacher doesn't nullify the simple facts that he is stating.

"We are 14 mills under the state average, 7 mills under the next lowest district in the area.levies during the past 18 years)......
Perkins spends less administrative dollars per student than other local districts.
The levy amount continues to go up because of the timing. The longer and bigger the deficit spending occurs, the greater the levy amount becomes. It will continue to rise the longer it is put off. Happens in every district in the state. If the state comes in, the amount of the levy will still increase until one is passed (research what happened in Huron, Lorain and other districts under fiscal emergency)."

Finn Finn

Well it is a lot easier to support new taxes when your salary has gone up by almost 23% in the last five years. While the rest of us are struggling with stagnate wages (I haven't had a raise in 7 years) coupled with inflation, Mr. Myer's salary has gone from $43,766.00 in 2007 to $57,086.00 in 2012. I think some of these teachers just don't have a clue how fortunate they are. They can't comprehend that the rest of us aren't getting double digit raises. AND WE WORK 12 MONTHS OF THE YEAR!!

Nemesis

"the result of 18 years with only 2.9 mills in additional operating funds coupled with massive state cuts to local school districts "

WRONG. It's the result of siphoning off a huge chunk of the operating funds into an earmarked slush fund for a new building that isn't needed.

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

SPEEDY GONZALEZ

I DONT EVEN LIVE IN THIS DISTRICT OR HAVE KIDS THAT ATTEND THERE, BUT IT SEEMS THAT AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT (ELECTED OFFICIALS) THAT THERE IS A GROSS ABUSE OF THEIR POWERS. IF THEY DONT GET WHAT THEY WANT, THEY BLACKMAIL OR MAKE THREATS! WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO DO IS HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND GET RID OF THESE LOWLIFES. SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO DOES IN MARRICOPA COUNTY AND GETS RESULTS. I WOULD VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN STREAMLINE EXPENSES AND GET THINGS DONE AND DONE RIGHT! ISNT THIS WHAT WE ELECT AND PAY THEM FOR? HOW ABOUT SOME REAL SOLUTIONS AND ANSWERS TO THE PROBLEMS THAT CONTINUE TO PLAGUE NOT ONLY THE PERKINS DISTRICT, BUT ALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN OHIO.

asecretlife

Please stop yelling!

eddiec1985

Speedy - obviously you have no idea what is going on. Perkins has "streamlined expenses". The State continues to cuts funding and refuses to change the way schools are funded even though it has been ruled unconstitutional FOUR times!

Nemesis

They streamlined revenues from the operating budget to their slush fund for their self-aggrandizing building project, in direct defiance of the will of the voters to whom they are properly subordinate, and now they further refuse to take no for an answer.

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

Vote4Perkins

First of all, if you haven't been to any of the meetings and you are believing the banter on here...wow. Please be informed.

Perkins2060

I love the teachers and staff posting on here trying to save their jobs. They should be focusing on how to get rid of Gunner.

Foryourinformation

So true, Perkins2060! Oh, but let "yesshedid" tell it, we are "spouting off at the mouth and misinformed." It's not making the kids suffer...it's about their own fear of not having a job. Make the over 300 kids pay a set tuition to attend.

yesshedid

I was at the meeting last night. Had you been there, you would have heard that it is illegal to have the open enrollment kids pay tuition. I, too, am on a tight budget, however, I appreciate what the Perkins School system has done for me as well as the people who paid taxes 30-40 years ago when I was in the system. I also know that our future is in the hands of today's students. My child came to Perkins through open enrollment. We have since moved into the township, however, I still feel open enrollment is a great thing. ALL of Perkins finance issues were NOT caused by open enrollment. The open enrollment kids did not require any new teachers; they filled open spots in current classrooms. Stop blaming Gunner and the current board. Blame the State for the funding cuts. If you don't like Gunner and board, vote the board off and instruct YOUR EMPLOYEES to hire someone else.

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

eddiec1985

Hey miss information, every open enrolled student adds $5700+ to Perkins Schools while costing MUCH less than that to educate. Open enrolled students are a big plus, financially, socially, and educationally, to Perkins Schools. Please learn the facts before you post again.

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

Strong Schools ...

Perkins 2060,

Could you please give me factual information on why you are so against our students? Are you even a community member? I am a community member who believes in my children and believes in the quality education our district offers. Not all of us are teachers. Believe or not...there are community members that support the students.

citizen

No one is against the students.

I am against Gunner and Board not listening to taxpayer when we twice told them NO on new school campus buildings. And then they unethically removed millions of dollars set to educate the students, pay the faculty, pay for athletics/arts etc and moved it to the building fund, essentially bankrupting the school. Taxpayers already said TWICE, NO to new buildings/facilities.

Gunner did not listen. The question is why is Jim Gunner so against the students he chooses buildings over their education... which is exactly what Gunner and the Board did.

VOTENO

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Strong Schools ...

This has nothing to do with the buildings. We want to keep our current programs in place!

Nemesis

It has EVERYTHING to do with the buildings. They HAVE the money they need to maintain staffing and programs. They've STOLEN it from the operating budget and squirreled it away in a slush fund to pay for new buildings that aren't needed and that the voters have twice said they don't want.

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

Perkins0602

Getting rid of Gunner is done by the board. The board is elected by the taxpayer.

Perkins2060

It's time to merge with Sandusky and cut out a lot of fat.

Perkins0602

Go ahead and merge. You will pay the millage of the highest district, which would be Sandusky! Remember back a couple of months ago, when you said you pay more property tax then I ever would? Yeap, you would be still be paying even more at a higher millage.

Nemesis

Merging has to be the most idiotic move conceivable. The unproductive of Sandusky will use their greater numbers to bleed Perkins property owners for more money to throw at futile attempts to teach kids who don't want to learn.

UgtaBkdnMe

The "unproductive of Sandusky"? My, aren't you just nasty and arrogant. Why don't you just say what you really mean?

oldpirate

Whole lot of hate being spewed on here. Can anyone say CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY.

Nemesis

And just what would that responsibility entail?

Wald

I'm sick and tired of levy supporters calling those who vote no "uninformed". I mean, you might as well just call no voters dumb. What is it you don't think we understand? How Gunner stole our money from operating fees to build a palatial new high school? How $1.7 million of taxpayer money was wasted on a new stadium? How Gunner doesn't even pay taxes to the district? How open-enrollment has caused overcrowding in our schools, burdening already busy teachers? Don't tell me I don't understand; I understand perfectly well. Gunner and the BOE have made their bed, now they can lie in it. They did this to the students, not no voters. Blaming us makes me want to vote no even more. Maybe the levy supporters are uninformed about the realities of their community. People can't afford to support Gunner's grandiose new school. I wouldn't trust him with my money as far as I could throw him. A levy just passed in May, now he wants more. It doesn't make much sense to ask for a bigger building levy than the one that just lost by a landslide. Arrogance at its finest. Vote no to the August new school levy!

UgtaBkdnMe

Wald, I have read all of your posts and they make a lot of sense. You clearly have a valid point of view. What I don't understand is how you have made numerous, unfavorable comments about Huron residents who support our board's action of removing Fred Fox. It make no sense! Looks like the shoe is on the other foot. If I were a Perkins resident, I would want to see Gunner go but let's be honest, at least he isn't breaking laws. Your board would be lucky to have our "three stooges"!

Wald

Fox made personal mistakes but he effectively ran the school system and was cleared by the state. His ousting was based on personal vendettas of the stooges, not fireable offenses.

UgtaBkdnMe

If his "personal mistakes" were blown out of proportion, why is the OEC on round four of the investigation process? Filing an allegation with the OEC is not an easy task. There is a lot of screening before the agency will even send out an allegation form. What has Gunner done that warrants an investigation? I am not saying that Gunner is good for Perkins but he hasn't violated his contract like Fox. But as long as we have an excellent rating, it's ok - right?

Wald

Where did I say that Gunner should be investigated? Where did I say Fox's indiscretions were blown out of proportion? You're only hearing what you want to hear, like the stooges.

UgtaBkdnMe

No, you are reading what YOU want to read. My point is that you criticize your super and boe and it's ok but yet you criticized our district for taking care of its problems. I am hearing the pot call the kettle black. I personally don't have an opinion of what is going on in Perkins and not being a resident, it really isn't any of my business. You sure can get wound up about what happens in Huron. Why is that when you live in Perkins?

Wald

Wrong is wrong no matter where a person lives. The stooges are on the leash of the football coach in Huron and fired Fox because of personal vendetta. What Fox did was personally wrong but not a fireable offense according to the state of Ohio. What's so hard to understand?

Strong Schools ...

I have noticed that there are a lot of bloggers that do not live in Perkins. Frankly, their voice means nothing. Start paying our taxes before you start judging us. I am so tired of hearing them whine but they choose to sit on their comouters all day and do nothing about the situation! Support our students and vote yes!

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

UgtaBkdnMe

I feel the same way but I am just returning the courtesy to BooBeeDoo, Nemesis, and Wald. They were very active on the Fred Fox blogs. I have been having conversations with them.

Nemesis

Ugta, you just don't get it.

TWO DIFFERENT SITUATIONS - but you can't get your head around someone drawing two different conclusions on the fate of the superintendents.

Ever watch Sesame Street as a kid? "One of these things is not like the other....."

UgtaBkdnMe

I did watch Sesame Street. Want to know what's different about the two situations? You, BooBeeDoo, and Wald don't live in Huron!!!!!!! Me thinks you might be a relative of someone directly involved in the Huron mess because you are really getting worked up.

Darkhorse

An operating levy means more money for the teachers. You are feeding the union with higher wages and benefits. The situation is not sustainable. Long ago, they just taught plain old school and now there are sports, music, art, etc. Let's get back to basic. How do you account for the added 2 percent increase since May? The schools need to cut the fat.

Strong Schools ...

This does not mean more money for the teachers. Our teachers have given a lot over the years to help the financial situation. If anything, the teachers have been trying their best to help the district. The teachers have been on a salary freeze for at least the past three years and have taken an increase on their insurance.

We want to keep the programs that are already in place. If the levy fails, we will loose them. Our students depend on the arts, academics, and athletics to be successful. These opportunities help mold a well rounded student.

Nemesis

Yeah, about that salary freese - it's a scam. They eliminate the cost of living increases and call it a freeze, counting on widespread ignorance of the step increase schedule.

All those programs can be maintained by simply returning the funds they stole from the operating budget to feed their building fund.

Vote4Perkins

Along with a salary freeze....they have increase insurance...so actually they are giving up money...

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

Common Sense

Cut the extras and you cut the chances for the students to be accepted in to great colleges. Cut the extras and you will see an increase in juvenile crime (nothing to do). Cut the extras and you will see the community fade. As our schools go, so will our community. Once again, the question you ask could be addressed at a BOE meeting. Attend and become informed.Again, this was a response to Darkhorse, but it is a benefit to all.

Wald

There are so many things wrong with this post it's laughable. You're basically saying a student that goes to a school with no extras can't go to a great college? So inner-city students with no extras don't have a chance, huh? All students not involved in extras are criminals, huh? That's awfully arrogant of you. You ought to choose a different username.

Nemesis

To say nothing of all the home-schooled kids who are attending top universities.

UgtaBkdnMe

Communities do benefit from the extras made available to children. Since the inner-city student was mentioned, the facts are that inner-city kids are under represented in colleges and over-represented in criminal activity.

Wald

Wow. You're definitely from Huron.

UgtaBkdnMe

So you are suggesting that inner-city kids attend college at the same rate and are not more likely to be involved in criminal activity? Do opportunities given to young people have no bearing on their chances to succeed? Are you saying that if you can read the statistics that support this that you must live in Huron? If you can't see this, it has nothing to do with where you live instead it just means you are clueless.

Nemesis

Their chances to succeed are based almost entirely on their upbringing at home. The reason inner-city kids are underrepresented at college is that most of them are raised by a single mother who bore them before she could finish high school.

Wald

Clueless? Weren't you saying something about pots and kettles? The original post said without specials, kids can't get into good colleges. I made the point that it is possible for kids without specials, like inner-city kids, to still get into good schools and not be a criminal. You made a sweeping, stereotypical generalization about inner-city kids that was beside the point which betrayed your provincial, small-minded prejudice. Nemesis pointed out your faulty logic. But I don't know why I'm trying to reason with you. I'm more likely to win the lottery.

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

Perkins2060

Merge with Sandusky!

Strong Schools ...

Get a life and worry about your own community!

Perkins2060

I'm pulling my kids from Perkins next year and open enrolling them in another district. It's time to merge with Sandusky! Fire Gunner and let Sandusky's super take over!

Oh wait, that won't work. The parents in Perkins with kids in sports would never want that. Their kids would ride pine.

Strong Schools ...

Okay, You want to live in our community but transport your children elsewhere? Open enrollment students do not receive transportation from their chosen district. So you will not pay 25 dollars a month but you will pay 25 dollars in gas a week to take your child to and from school? You are out $75! I don't think you are a Perkins community member. You bring up Sandusky way too much.

I am glad their levy passed because I do not want to see anything cut from any student. You obviously have never attended a Perkins board meeting because you never state any factual information.

Blog readers...please take note of this! A lot of the negative bloggers do not have anything to stand on. They are just mad! Please go to the Perkins Schools website and submit a question. You do not have to give any personal information. Someone will provide you with an answer. You can also ask your question here on the blog and someone will give you the correct factual information.

VOTENO

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bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

Be Positive-Vote Yes

People, understand this! School Supporter makes a good point below stating that you will pay more in gas money to transport your children to Sandusky than the $25 dollars a month that it takes to pass this levy, but let me also add- YOUR HOME VALUE WILL GO DOWN in Perkins! Understand the truth is, people pay extra to live in the Perkins District. It is a district they want to live in because of the past success of the Perkins schools and the successful students it has produced. If we become part of Sandusky Schools, our home value will go down as not standing out as part of one of the greatest districts to be a part of. When businesses think about moving to an area, one of the top 3 things they look at is the school district and if it is one they want to be a part of - if we merge with Sandusky or even don't and still lose all of these programs and have to pay to play, then we will lose business coming to our community and stop community growth as well as lose the legacy status of being a part of the Perkins School District. So yes, home value will go down because of it. People pay a heck of a lot more to be in a particular school district- location, location, location, as they say, and people want to be a part of Perkins for a reason! We need to keep that reason going!

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

Be Positive-Vote Yes

People, understand this! School Supporter makes a good point below stating that you will pay more in gas money to transport your children to Sandusky than the $25 dollars a month that it takes to pass this levy, but let me also add- YOUR HOME VALUE WILL GO DOWN in Perkins! Understand the truth is, people pay extra to live in the Perkins District. It is a district they want to live in because of the past success of the Perkins schools and the successful students it has produced. If we become part of Sandusky Schools, our home value will go down as not standing out as part of one of the greatest districts to be a part of. When businesses think about moving to an area, one of the top 3 things they look at is the school district and if it is one they want to be a part of - if we merge with Sandusky or even don't and still lose all of these programs and have to pay to play, then we will lose business coming to our community and stop community growth as well as lose the legacy status of being a part of the Perkins School District. So yes, home value will go down because of it. People pay a heck of a lot more to be in a particular school district- location, location, location, as they say, and people want to be a part of Perkins for a reason! We need to keep that reason going!

Perkins0602

Why wait? Do it now, since you have all the answers, or is this just "Scare Tatics"? Gunner has been here five years, so you have waited five years to find a better education for your kids?

Common Sense

Read the police blotter? Types of crimes occurring at 2100 Hayes are more violent than at 3714 Campbell.

badboy

Sounds like that open enrollment scheme wasn't all the blue sky and apple pie they thought it would be.

asecretlife

Kept us out of this situation for 5 years.

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

oldpirate

Wow Wald. 30% voter turnout a landslide? More like voter apathy. Most no voters are set. If those who didn't bother to vote decide to support the levy can pass. Please vote yes because you know it is the right thing to do.

Wald

The levy was defeated by a wide margin. I think it was 65%-35%. I don't know about your math, oldpirate, but, as far as those who voted, it was a landslide victory for the no voters. I welcome a larger voter turnout. It would be an even wider defeat for the levy. Vote no if you want to keep your democratic rights. See through the lies...a yes vote is a vote for a new school.

Strong Schools ...

I agree with Old Pirate. We just need to get more yes people out to vote.

Wald,
Why don't you want our community to flourish? If we do not have strong schools then the community will go down in value and pride. We need to keep what we have and support the students. Our home values will decrease and people will not want to move here if we do not support our schools. Think long term, stop living in the past, and think about what this can do for our community.

Wald

We have a strong system now. We don't need some grandiose building the taxpayers can't afford. We don't need a superintendent stealing our money to build it. I don't trust him with my money. I'm voting no.

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

Nemesis

oldpirate, special elections are known for maximum levy supporter turnout. Boards choose them specifically to improve their chances.

Perkins2060

MERGE WITH SANDUSKY AND CUT THE FAT! Perkins parents you have a choice to open enroll your kids in a good district. I'm making that choice. Margaretta, Huron, Edison! Send your kids there along with the state funds. This district has been ruined by Gunner and his minions! VOTE NO!

Strong Schools ...

Again, you have no factual information...just emotion!

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

senioritis

Perkins2060,

Ok. You've made your point. At least twice now. That's...hmm...TWICE more than you've attended meetings or read the literature that is mailed to inform voters. Correct?

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

Nemesis

Will you stop with this idiotic merger talk? Sandusky has 5 times as many registered voters as Perkins, with a huge number of them being renters already on some form of public assistance. Perkins has far more property valuation. How do you think that will work out?
Everywhere that situation exists in a combined district, the higher population steamrolls levy after levy and the other one is bled dry.

UgtaBkdnMe

Don't want those "under productive people in Sandusky" bleeding you dry, now do you? (your description of Sandusky, not mine)

guano

I will never, ever support this levy. When it finally came out that there was an older female teacher sleeping in front of her class for years, that was the last straw for me! Add the stadium, failure to enforce residency on the supt., and the rather awkward blackmail and extortion and we have a recipe for the state to eventually take over the district and correct the mismanagement. Why do we have to buy all students, so-called teachers and administrators multiple new laptops and ipads? Why were those teachers paid last year to go to columbus and wear silly costumes to protest sb5. They will now get what they deserve! Come on August, we will defeat this levy by 10 to 1.

Strong Schools ...

Guano,

You are blaming all of the students for something that was out of their control. It does not matter if Gunner lives in our district! I bet most of the people on this blog do not live in the same community in which they work. Gunner has been very dedicated to our school district and kept us off the ballot for five years with his creative financial solutions. The well has run dry because the state has cut more than 2 million from our school budget. Gunner has no control over that.

NONE of the teachers got paid to go down to Columbus in protest of SB5. If any of th teachers went to Columbus they went on their own time and did not get paid.

As for the laptops and iPads...Our school district is very innovative and is ahead of any other district tin our area when it comes to technology and programs. We have received some grant money to help fund the computers, etc. The job of our district is to prepare the students for the 21st century and that includes technology. Students operate through technology and we need to foster this. Our students have had some amazing opportunities inside and outside the classroom due to the advanced technology. Please check your facts and only give factual information.

Wald

"creative financial solutions". Lol. Try taking taxpayer money earmarked for operations and moving it to waste money on an ostentatious new stadium and a new building we voted no to and can't afford. See through the propaganda. Vote no.

bao

strong schools, please check your facts, "we have received some grant money to help fund the computers" that wasnt true in the beginning and still is not, capital funds pay for the laptops every year.

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

holycow

Easy on the caps button. Was it stuck or just really really mad

Perkins2060

A ? at the end would get your point across much better. In a hurry or just don't know any better?

Perkins Resident

I, along with my entire family, and every single person I have discussed this issue with, will be voting no. These comments from the teachers on here and the levy supporters only solidifies this decision. We will not be threatened, harrassed, or talked down to. We will be out in force. We will defeat this levy. Stay strong Perkins Residents. We will defeat this levy yet again.

Strong Schools ...

You really think all of the bloggers are teachers? Have more faith in your community members. You say that you will not be harassed, threatened, or talked down to? Have you checked the negative bloggers. They are the worst at all of these things and they still don't list any factual information.

There are plenty of people that are working hard and doing everything they can to make sure our kids and students are put first. Stay Strong Perkins Residents and pass this levy for our students and our community! We are only as strong as our schools and the students we put out into the real world!

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

Common Sense

Again, no evidence of true information as a voter, just an opinion.

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

Wald

Spread the word. Vote no.

Strong Schools ...

Spread the word...Vote Yes.

arnmcrmn

People want the schools to make cuts....so they do and now the outrage. You people cannot simply have it all your way. Pay more for sports or pay more for a levy....your choice.

Strong Schools ...

It is cheaper to pass this levy than to pay for sports.

levy passage = $25.69 a month
Pay to Play = $730 per sport

fifteenthgreen

Free $1 million plus laptops!

Nemesis

Not if your kid isn't interested in sports.

starryeyes83

Not to mention the people who no longer have kids in school.

bobshumway92

Gunners talking points.

The New World Czar

Perkins is now the second lowest in the county as far as meeting state indicators (Ohio Department of Education data). Stop and think- open enrollment, laptop computers, widespread IEP's, et al- are they improving the end product?

When you are short on funds, go back to the basics. Whether the 3R or STEM path, prioritize what will make the student function in society.

Bherrle

The New World Czar - How does Perkins rank statewide?

DLK

I know, I know....they are "effective".

Bherrle

NO DLK, I want the number. What out of how many statewide? I'm not interested in monikers like "effective."

fifteenthgreen

Find out yet?

Wald

Google is your friend.

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