Crosses challenged

A group advocating the separation of church and state is protesting a pair of crosses displayed for Easter on a tiny eastern Ohio village’s municipal building.
Associated Press
Apr 18, 2014
The Madison, Wis.-based Freedom From Religion Foundation challenged the claim by the mayor of Stratton that it’s constitutional to display the crosses during holidays.

Mayor John Abdalla temporarily removed the crosses in January after the foundation threatened to sue, but he returned them to celebrate the Easter season. One is Latin, the other Eastern Orthodox.

Abdalla told the Steubenville Herald-Star such seasonal displays were allowed. The mayor declined to comment when contacted Wednesday by The Associated Press. He told the newspaper he planned to remove them at the end of April. Easter is this Sunday.

In an April 8 letter, the foundation said religious displays on public buildings represent a violation of the First Amendment, regardless of what time of year it is.

“While the permanent display of these crosses by the Village is indisputably unconstitutional, the seasonal display of the crosses in recognition of Easter, the Christian celebration of Jesus’s resurrection, is no less illegal,” staff attorney Rebecca Markert wrote. “The display of these crosses is illegal because it represents government endorsement of the Christian religion”

The foundation said this week the village hasn’t replied to its letter, which requested the village remove the display.

Abdalla said he didn’t want to discuss the matter nor could he suggest anyone who would. “No one’s going to talk about this” he said. It’s not the first debate over religious freedom in the village.


Stop It

"Your" god is not everyone else's god. The sooner you get used to it, the happier you'll be. Your preaching in here has gathered you zero xtra parishioners as far as I can tell.

If ANYONE that comments on this site has turned toward thinkagain's god because of him, please speak up. I find his god too unforgiving. Especially if he created us.


If the Pharisees, who studied the Scriptures day and night could not recognize their Savior, I don’t expect you to be able to either. That is because the truths of God can be known only by the revelation of the Holy Spirit.

Maybe like myself, one day you’ll be looking up at a night sky, pondering in awe the wonder of our universe. What would you do if the Creator of all that infinity, made His presence known to you? And knowing that Jesus made that reunion possible, do you think you would still be in support of others not finding what you had found?

The night of my new birth, I remember the blinders coming off of my eyes in a dramatic and instantaneous regeneration of heart and mind. God became real and alive to me, not just off sitting on a cloud somewhere looking down… but next to me. God became as real to me as any person could be.

We are all born into this world, but there is a spiritual birth that awaits those that seek Him.

How can they understand before they are born again? Seekers must simply receive Him as their Lord and Savior. Even if the Bible didn't exist, I would still be a Christian.

Stop It
Fri, 12/27/2013 - 5:05am
“The gov't stole my home and my job. I’m old, unemployed and living with my mom. Been through catholicism , protestant, baptist , fundamentalist, evangelicalism, and pentecostalism.”

The truth is, life tested your faith, and unlike Job, who refused to curse God, you blame Him for all your shortcomings.

Now, you’re just a bitter old Christaphobe, who spends his days trolling and lashing out after the comments of Christians. Mocking, ridiculing and blaming God and Christians to shore up your low self-esteem after failing at life.

Jesus said IF we deny him then HE will deny us before the Father.

Stop It

Again....your god is not my god. My god does not damn it's creation to eternal hell. It forgives.


Haha miss stop it your god forgives but you know nothing but hate. Your god you are full of sh!+. Santan doesn't know forgiveness.

Stop It

And I thank you for the compliment, santown. May your day be as bright and shiny as mine is.


Your welcome I hate when someone lies just to see themselves or hear themselves.


+1 for think again.

Dwight K.

People can have their religions and what not, but Why does everything have to have god/Jesus included into it? If someone has a surgery people say oh this is gods plan or gift...uh where's the credit to the surgeons? After all they did do the surgery.

From the Grave



What if all the people in that town, or that county dont mind, or like the crosses ? I dont think someone from 1000 miles away , or uncle sam should dictate what happens there. Seperation of church and state has 0 to do with this type of senario. That government is not dictating to you what to practice. Israel has the Star of David on their countries flag, and people are allowed to worship other ways there.


Israel was EXPLICITLY founded as a Jewish nation.

What if all the people in that town decide that women have to wear burkhas? This is the USA, and the Bill of Rights applies everywhere in the country.


The government is not allowed to endorse a religion. That is in the constitution. Period.

Bleeding Turnips

I was born and raised catholic and attended St. Mary's. I remember that we were taught not to judge others, yet I see a lot of "judgement" from Christians. Whether crosses are displayed on government buildings or nativity scenes are in town squares at Christmas, these have no bearing on how I celebrate Christian Holidays.
This ridiculous notion that my religion is right therefore your religion is wrong needs to end. That's the mentality of the terrorists, only they take it to the extreme and kill those who choose to worship differently.
Let's leave the governments out of religion totally, all religions. Worship how you choose to, and allow others to do the same. I'm pretty sure that the message of Christ that I was taught, was to love others no matter who they are and to worry about my own affairs. Jesus showed tolerance and compassion, shouldn't we at least do the same? Especially at this most holy time of our Christian faith... Let it go


"This ridiculous notion that my religion is right therefore your religion is wrong needs to end."

If you stop and think about that for a minute, you should realize that it's a call for the end of religion.

If you say the sky is red, I cannot say it is blue without asserting that you are wrong.

But, hey, I understand.....logic is hard.



Tsu Dho Nimh

Why does a group in Wisconsin need to question what is going on in Steubenville, OH? Are the fine folks in Steubenville bothered by what ITS city has chosen to display? Has Steubenville refused to display symbols of other holidays associated with Jewish or Muslim faiths? This is a bunch of nonsense. Worry about your own community and let Steubenville take care of itself.


There must be a local resident acting as the named plaintiff or they wouldn't be able to establish standing.

Tsu Dho Nimh

Not necessarily. Many of these groups go around trying to find/create a controversy.

Kottage Kat

He is Risen
The Tomb is empty
Praise GOD
May each of you have a blessed " holiday"
How many of those here will have Easter baskets, and decorations for their children?
Just curious.


I'll be spending the day working in my garden. No bunnies out there! At least that I've found yet, LOL! And indoors, there's nary a colored egg or a cartoon chick to be seen. No Peeps in the cupboard, either!

I'm going to assume you're going to church. And I honestly don't care! That's not disparaging of your choices, but rather making the point that it's none of my business. As long as you're not hurting anybody else in your own pursuit of happiness, why on earth should anybody else make an issue of it? The town displaying the crosses has already made an issue of it, and it would just add insult to injury if the town then refused to treat other religions with equal recognition and respect.

As for those who've commented on the attitude some have that "I'm right, you're wrong!" or "Mine is the one TRUE religion!" I'd just like to say: We're ALL going to hell by SOMEbody's definition!

Stop It

Amen, Samantha.

Kottage Kat

Son Rise service.


Hallelujah, He is risen!

Kottage Kat



Keep all religious symbols off tax-payer buildings. That portion of the problem is solved easily.

Truth or Dare

Hey, it's as simple as Google, if you want to find the true origins of Easter and Christmas, which are both based in ancient pagan worship of Gods and Goddesses. Heck, every day of the week of our Roman Calendar is named after a God, ancient Roman Gods. Christ rode that donkey into town to observe the Passover Feast, just 1 of 7 He was raised to observe. They can be found by researching the Old Testament. The compromising of Christ's Christianity happened a long time ago, and yep, in Rome.

Remember the story of Christ getting angry and throwing the money-changers out of the Temple? There was a reason for that! There is no place for a cross on a government building, or any other religious symbol. The only symbol that should be on the side of any government building is a huge $$$$ sign.