Ohio communities to urge sign-ups under health law

Ohio communities are stepping up efforts to enroll their residents in health care coverage ahead of an important federal deadline this month.
Associated Press
Mar 9, 2014

By March 31, almost everyone in the United States is required to be signed up for health insurance or risk paying a fine under the health overhaul.

The leader of Ohio’s largest county said residents will have the chance this month to enroll at county facilities that include the probate court and justice center.

Cuyahoga County Executive Ed FitzGerald said those seeking coverage can meet with people trained in navigating the federal insurance marketplace.

In Columbus, Mayor Michael Coleman said the city will partner with the nonprofit Enroll America to help spread the word.

More than 1.5 million Ohio residents, or about 14 percent, lack insurance.

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worddrow811

Here I am, come and get me because I'm not doing it.

SamAdams

Oh, sure, line up to sign up for coverages I don't need at a price I can't afford to comply with a law that's just about as unconstitutional as it gets. Just how stupid does this administration think we are, anyway? (No need to answer that. The proof that this administration EXISTS is adequate to show that too many are just about as stupid as our "betters" believe we are.)

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The Hero Zone

What is really scary/idiotic is that using the same thought process that gave supposed justification to this we should be allowed to "force" (coasterfan's seemingly favorite word regarding the imposition of this tax/law/penalty/whatever-of-the-day) people to pay penalties for the following:

1. We pay for people who don't earn high school diplomas. Either in government benefits or their lack of education has them contributing ~$260,000 less to the economy over their lifetimes. People who don't have a diploma should pay a tax every year they don't have one to help offset the damage they are doing to America's middle-class. Every year you will be required to provide proof you have your diploma or equivalent on your taxes and the IRS will impose a penalty on you for failing to carry avocation insurance. Everyone with a diploma will be required to pay a yearly tax to help offset the costs of the progam forcing money from people who don't have it to begin with in order to monitor and certify them.

http://knowledgeworks.org/worldo...

2. We pay for environmental mitigation every day in this country. Human beings themselves constantly and directly add to three of the major greenhouse gasses by existing: water vapor, carbon dioxide, and methane. This doesn't even take into account everything they do leaves a carbon footprint, and it is unfair that we don't pay for enough janitors to clean those footprints up. Because of our sin of existence itself, we need to place a life tax that everyone who provides proof they are alive must pay. To help offset costs the dead, while they no longer contribute to the problem of life, will be taxed their entire estates to help the living clean up after themselves. Every year on your tax form you must provide proof that you are living or dead and pay the appropriate penalty to ensure that our sin is absolved by hand of government. If you can't afford the life tax, you will pay a penalty which you also can't afford.

http://www.slate.com/articles/ne...
(Above provided to show that as long as the declared reason for a law seems to make sense, the actual professional, scientific measures of the scope of the law don't mean anything. We're talking intentions, not rationale.)

3. Every dollar someone doesn't spend costs our economy dearly. We need a law that penalizes savings. Or, rather, "taxes" them. It's unfair that some people are just allowed to save whatever they want and others can't. Unless they provide proof they are adding to the economy (located on their tax forms) their money will be taxed on a fair and increasing scale. The tax money collected will subsidize the spending of others who can't spend as much as others. But the spending must be on regulated items and in many cases the government will just spend the money (a stimulus, let's say) for the citizens since they can't take care of themselves responsibly.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/cfai...

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Kinda makes you wonder how valid the opinion of a cattle driver is in calling one of the herd "stupid" for not being funneled up the chute to be loaded onto the truck. Or perhaps it reflects our opinion as a reader of the character Boxer, the cart-horse from Animal Farm, as he willingly let's himself be sent off.

"The most sympathetically drawn character in the novel, Boxer epitomizes all of the best qualities of the exploited working classes: dedication, loyalty, and a huge capacity for labor. He also, however, suffers from what Orwell saw as the working class’s major weaknesses: a naïve trust in the good intentions of the intelligentsia and an inability to recognize even the most blatant forms of political corruption. Exploited by the pigs as much or more than he had been by Mr. Jones, Boxer represents all of the invisible labor that undergirds the political drama being carried out by the elites. Boxer’s pitiful death at a glue factory dramatically illustrates the extent of the pigs’ betrayal. It may also, however, speak to the specific significance of Boxer himself: before being carted off, he serves as the force that holds Animal Farm together."

http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/an...

Boxer - The cart-horse whose incredible strength, dedication, and loyalty play a key role in the early prosperity of Animal Farm and the later completion of the windmill. Quick to help but rather slow-witted, Boxer shows much devotion to Animal Farm’s ideals but little ability to think about them independently. He naïvely trusts the pigs to make all his decisions for him. His two mottoes are “I will work harder” and “Napoleon is always right.”

SamAdams

I am NOT amused by your Point #3 above, largely because that's already in the works. And if you want to place bets that the taxes on savings will be higher than the interest paid on savings, well, you won't find a taker from anybody whose IQ is above room temperature!

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The Hero Zone

Oh I understand. That's the crappy MyRA plan the President announced. It's meant to force the public to consume our own U.S. debt (bonds) with no other option since it's becoming unattractive for the Fed to continue doing the same. Just as the ACA is a stepping-stone pile of law, the MyRA will eventually replace private retirement options in a similar way private insurers are being "nationalized".

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The Hero Zone

Here's some fun videos you may enjoy as I've picked up you are a bit of a geek and enjoy some intelligence in humor:

History of the Soviet Union to the Tetris Theme
http://youtu.be/hWTFG3J1CP8

Epic Rap Battles of History: Rasputin vs. Lenin (some NSFW language)
http://youtu.be/ZT2z0nrsQ8o

The Big Dog's back

That's OK, don't sign up, the rest of us will take care of your freeloading ... .

Maggdi

One of the carrots for this program is subsidies..... but thanks to "double speak" that doesn't equate to freeloading

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The Hero Zone

That's awfully Republican of you to say, Big Dog. Perhaps my suspicions of you being a spy weren't too far off?

Humor aside, with that same attitude, we find ourselves in exactly the same position we were in before the ACA and all the expense, drama, distraction, and destruction it has caused. So we spent under a trillion for about...nothing at all. We'll even supposed that what you say is true and that you are paying for others who don't...what do you think a single payer system is/does?

The Big Dog's back

Everybody pays. Everyone is responsible to pay. Isn't that what you advocate? Personal Responsibility?

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The Hero Zone

Complying with coercion now equates personal responsibility? Heck, we have the most responsible inmates in our penal system then since their responsibilities see them voluntarily remain in jail. Requiring things of people then claiming personal responsibility when they comply is absurd. It's like saying that everyone in North Korea is actually happy because they are litigated to be under penalty of death.

Smile at our responsibility, friend! If we weren't told how to be responsible, how could we ever survive?

anthras

Re: "That's OK, don't sign up, the rest of us will take care of your freeloading ... ."

Let me ask you who will take care of the subsidies that Obama is giving many people that sign up maybe the persons singing up that do not receive a subsidy will pay more to make up the difference ? Do you feel that possibly the tax payers may pay for the food stamps and other government hand outs for the persons that had 40 hours and health care will now have 28 hours and no health care? Who do you think will pay for all the persons that signed up to Obamacare and were placed in medicaid? Also it is reported that Obama is slashing billions from medicare to help pay for Obamacare you think he can do that and medicare will do all that it has been doing?

Truth2u

Dog, you'll have enough to do with this news.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/bi...

The Big Dog's back

washington examiner = false news in print edition.

SamAdams

Don't bother. Big Dog gets his news from John Stewart and his opinions from Bill Maher. Who needs facts when you've got all that, eh?

coasterfan

Republicans were in favor of nationalized Heath care until Obama took up the torch. One of the biggest supporters of it prior to 2008 was the conservative Heritage Foundation. The same local yokels who always push for "personal responsibility" and gripe about "freeloaders", are, for some odd reason, taking the exact OPPOSITE stance with Obamacare.

They apparently want to continue doing a 100% subsidy for people with no health care. Under the ACA, of course, everyone is responsible for paying at for at least a portion of their when healthcare expenses. It's amusing to hear them try to explain away the obvious inconsistency in their beliefs...

Darwin's choice

Blah,blah,blah...

More lies from the king of fairy tales.

So, 7 million sign ups yet? hahahahahahahaha!

Oregon has spent over 304 million on obamafail, with -0- signups! Way to go democrats!

Darwin's choice

Here's the state of the union in real world terms!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...

Watch this and tell me that this isn't the "real" obama......and congress!

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The Hero Zone

Hmm since the ACA is a way to ensure profits for private companies by collecting tax dollars it does show signs of Republican fingerprints left by the authoritarian hand of Democrats, eh?

Contango

Re: "Under the ACA, of course, everyone is responsible for paying at for at least a portion of their when (sic) healthcare expenses."

Even the millions of new Medicaid sign-ups?

kURTje

While I can not speak personally for Mike DeWine, I'm sure Mike is glad he has health care. Oh that's right...we pay for his.

arnmcrmn

You act like Mr. DeWine doesn't work?

Contango

Pres. Obama needs to do the right thing and get out his "pen and phone," wave his 'magic executive order wand,' say “abracadabra” and delay the individual mandate.

Contango

"Marketable U.S. government debt outstanding has surged to a record $12 trillion, up from $4.5 trillion at the end of 2007, according to U.S. Treasury data compiled by Bloomberg."

Not to worry, there is no reason for concern; the central planners are in firmly in charge and soon with single payer, free unlimited health care will be a reality for all Americans.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/20...

coasterfan

Democrats campaign on a platform of doing things for people. Republicans campaign on a platform of taking things away from people. Well, except tax breaks for the 1%, of course.

It matters not to me if conservatives don't want Obamacare to work, just as it doesn't matter if they want to pretend that it isn't working better and better each month. Just as with climate change, their denial doesn't change what's actually happening. Obamacare isn't going anywhere. The Republican base, however, is a shrinking, angry minority, and they see everyone else as the enemy. It's probably a good thing that the party of negativity isn't running the country.

grumpy

Re: "Democrats campaign on a platform of doing things for people. Republicans campaign on a platform of taking things away from people."

It is easy to campaign on gov't giving more bread and circuses. The tough part is when you run out of other peoples money... as is what is happening when we now have the lowest labor participation of all time. And what is this administration switches over to global warming, and the ACA instead of cutting regulations and getting out of the way of free enterprise to start producing more jobs. More bread and circuses paid by fewer people every month. This is what dims campaign on except that they don't mention that fewer and fewer people pay more and more for those breads and circuses. Pay the gov't more and keep less year after year, but we get more bread and circuses.

See the beads and circuses swirling there as it flushes down the toilet? That is what happens when countries start looking at taxing wealth instead of just income.

Contango

Re: "Obamacare isn't going anywhere"

The wrongheaded progressives said the same thing about the 'well intended' but disasterous 18th Amend.

Contango

Re: "Democrats campaign on a platform of doing things for people."

That's the increasingly bankrupt fiction that helps to perpetuate the BIG LIE.

The American progressives will succeed where other authoritarian left wing ideologues throughout history have failed.

Uh huh.

FORWARD SOVIET!

Darwin's choice

You're a liar coasterfan.
Your daily azz kissing of all things obama on these blogs says just the opposite.
Your blind following of the reicht in washington is exactly "jackboot thuggery" in a different timeframe.
When I watched this video, you're the very first idiot I thought of! You can easily play a part in this "history lesson". Watch and learn "teacher"!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...

This is called "How to kill 11 million people",the similarities are uncanny to "citizens" of today. Sadly.

Contango

"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security.

And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it."

- "They Thought They Were Free; The Germans, 1933-45"

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Mi...

"National security"? "Secret"?

IRS, DOJ, CIA, NSA, NDAA, Patriot Act, Homeland Security, et. al.

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