House passes bill on conceal-carry for school workers

A bill would require the state’s attorney general to develop a training model for school employees who are allowed to carry concealed weapons.
Associated Press
Jan 23, 2014

 

School boards would have to consult with local police to develop school safety protocols, if districts decide to let certain employees carry concealed weapons. The measure would shield the names of gun-carrying employees and block protocols for carrying concealed weapons from being part of collective bargaining negotiations.

State law limits the people who can have a deadly weapon in a school safety zone to security guards, on-duty officers and others whom a district’s board has given permission. The bill would allow off-duty officers to also carry weapons.

The House passed the bill 62-28 on Wednesday, sending it to the Senate.

 

Comments

coasterfan

This whole topic troubles me. Hiring an armed guard to stand inside a school sounds like a good idea, but how can we assure that one guard with a handgun will be enough the match the firepower of an Adam Lanza who comes to the school with far bigger firepower? There was an armed guard on duty at Columbine, and we all know how that ended.

An armed intruder will also have the element of surprise. I occasionally visit schools in my current employ, and with those schools who have guards on duty, probably 3/4 of the time, I see them before they see me. Typically, they're distracted and relaxed, talking to someone else in the lobby.

Finally, after the recent movie theatre shooting, engineered by a former police officer and legal gunowner, how do we know that the people we place as armed guards in our schools aren't going to go nutjob and do an Adam Lanza Part Deux? After all, we've invited them inside our school with a gun.

I'd feel a little better about the situation, if we'd here something else from the Right besides "we need to do a better job identifying people with mental health issues". That rhetoric rings pretty hollow when you consider that they always vote to remove funding for programs that would do that.

Of course, unfunded mandates have been their specialty over the past 10 years or so, haven't they? Iraq and Afghanistan wars, "No Child Left Behind", not to mention the recent TeaParty-led government shutdown (which essentially said we aren't going to pay for things we already agreed to buy on the country's credit card).

rbenn

you forgot obamacare, tax credits for illegals ect, but you libs seem not to mention those for some reason.

coasterfan

This whole topic troubles me. Hiring an armed guard to stand inside a school sounds like a good idea, but how can we assure that one guard with a handgun will be enough the match the firepower of an Adam Lanza who comes to the school with far bigger firepower? There was an armed guard on duty at Columbine, and we all know how that ended.

An armed intruder will also have the element of surprise. I occasionally visit schools in my current employ, and with those schools who have guards on duty, probably 3/4 of the time, I see them before they see me. Typically, they're distracted and relaxed, talking to someone else in the lobby.

Finally, after the recent movie theatre shooting, engineered by a former police officer and legal gunowner, how do we know that the people we place as armed guards in our schools aren't going to go nutjob and do an Adam Lanza Part Deux? After all, we've invited them inside our school with a gun.

I'd feel a little better about the situation, if we'd here something else from the Right besides "we need to do a better job identifying people with mental health issues". That rhetoric rings pretty hollow when you consider that they always vote to remove funding for programs that would do that.

Of course, unfunded mandates have been their specialty over the past 10 years or so, haven't they? Iraq and Afghanistan wars, "No Child Left Behind", not to mention the recent TeaParty-led government shutdown (which essentially said we aren't going to pay for things we already agreed to buy on the country's credit card).

coasterfan

Not sure why that posted twice.

I meant to say that the only good thing about the new law (if it passes), is that theoretically, a 2nd school official could carry a gun, to stop a massacre carried out by the other school employee with a gun. And then, we could give a 3rd person a gun to stop the 2nd guy from going postal.
Anybody see where this is heading?

If the NRA and the 2nd Amendment proponents were truly interested in anyone's safety, they would agree with the 92% of Americans (from a recent poll) who want universal background checks for gun purchases.

The current system, in which background checks are not required for a 100% of gun purchases, is essentially the same as building a fence around only 1/2 of your backyard, and wondering why your dog got out.

People with mental health issues aren't stupid. They know what gun purchase situations require a background check and which ones do not, and they simply buy their guns where no background check is required.

I would be more impressed with the NRA if their push for gun owners rights was matched at least a little by a concern for the rights of innocent gun victims. There was a time when the NRA pushed for universal background checks. I even read a late 1990's comment from Wayne LaPierre in which he pushed for that. It's sad that they have changed their stance since then.

Donegan

What you fail to acknowledge is this government abuses citizens rights and only the fool hardy trust them with anything. Universal background checks just opens a door to the corrupt government officials that admit they want to take guns from law abiding citizens. If those on the left would actually have a decent conversation about it it may be a little different, But as it is gun owners see the corruption and have no incentive to give the government their information or having a decent discussion with people who believe there are such things as assault clips and no idea how a weapon works.

Darwin's choice

Maybe some gun turrets and barbed wire?

Troll.....take your obama opinions south where you belong!

I feel for the people you've "taught" in you lifetime, criminal!

getit right be4...

Some people are just stuck on stupid. This made up poll with 92% of Americans in favor of Universal Background Checks.

UBC's will do nothing to stop violence, UBC's will do nothing to stop bad guys from doing harm. UBC's will do nothing to keep people from getting guns. UBC's will do nothing to make you safe.

If 92% of Americans are in favor of UBC's why is it that the jittery democrats that are up for reelection voted against it? Because made up polls can't vote.

vicariouslyAlive

Sandusky city schools has had an armed officer there for years... your point is invalid...

vicariouslyAlive

Sandusky city schools has had an armed officer there for years... your point is invalid...

The Big Dog's back

More guns always solve everything. NOT!

Darwin's choice

"The best deterrent to a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun."

Keep licking under your tail to get that obama taste out of your mouth.

lmalley77

I would rather have a few school officials armed and ready for an attack on our children than to have none!
What people also fail to realize is that "criminals" and the "mentally insane" people can get their guns right off the streets of the good olé USA if they want them bad enough!!! I agree with mandating background checks for those who seek a gun legally, but this will NOT stop the biggest criminals of all from obtaining them another way! It will open up the doors for more break ins from criminals seeking weapons to steal if they aren't readily able to get them from anyone on the streets. I say every School should have a retired or active duty member of the armed forces! I know I know, that's a little far fetched since there are so many schools in the US, but if you think about it, sandusky has 6 maybe 7 schools, so that's only 6-7 armed forces people per city!!

Restless1

Just the idea of multiple people being armed in our schools might be a deterrent to some idiots. As a parent, how can you send your darling child into a building that advertises, on all doors, that it is a "No Gun Zone". What the h-ll are you thinking?

JOATMON

If guns are really the problem then why do most of these mass shootings always occur in places like schools, theaters, and shopping malls where firearms are prohibited as opposed to gun shops and gun shows where firearms are readily available?

Nemesis

Several years ago, some fool actually tried to hold up Atlantic Gun and Tackle in Cleveland's southeast suburbs. When the police arrived, he walked out the door, hands up, and said, please, get me out of here.