New Medicaid enrollment begins

On Monday, Ohio began enrolling residents into Medicaid under new rules that allow additional people to qualify.
Tom Jackson
Dec 10, 2013


The state’s website for signing up,, appears to be working. That’s unlike the beleaguered federal site for signing up for private health insurance,, which has been plagued by problems.

Both programs are enrolling uninsured Ohioans for health care coverage that will start on Jan. 1.

Ohioans who make up to 138 percent of the federal poverty level are eligible to obtain Medicaid under new rules that went into effect when Ohio decided to accept the expansion of Medicaid included in the Affordable Care Act. The new Medicaid rules also extend coverage to certain people who didn’t qualify before, such as single adults without children.

Ohioans who make too much money to qualify for Medicaid, a safety-net program for low-income people, may well qualify for federal subsidies to help them buy insurance on

Sam Rossi, a spokesman for Ohio’s Medicaid program, said as of 3:30 p.m. Monday, more than 1,000 applications for Medicaid had been accepted by

“We’re having a good day so far” Rossi said.

He said people who lack Internet access who believe they may qualify can seek help instead at their local Job and Family Services office.

The state estimates 3,688 uninsured people in Erie County might qualify for Medicaid under the new rules. The figures are 3,329 for Huron County, 3,035 for Sandusky County and 1,718 for Ottawa County.

The state’s Medicaid site has an eligibility checklist on its home page. It asks a few questions to help visitors quickly determine if they might be eligible for Medicaid.

Wilson Forney is executive director of Family Health Services of Erie County, a local agency that provides primary health care in Sandusky at the southern campus of Firelands Regional Medical Center.

Forney said Family Health Services currently serves 3,026 patients, and about 42 percent are on Medicaid, while 30 percent have no insurance at all. While the program serves everyone, not just people who have little money, it does serve as a safety net for health care, Forney said.

He said he hopes the Medicaid expansion and the new health insurance exchange will increase the percentage of patients who have health coverage. That would likely allow Family Health Services to hire more employees and serve more people, Forney said.

Erie County’s health commissioner, Pete Schade, also hopes Medicaid expansion will help his clients obtain coverage.

To allow the health department’s new dental care program to support itself, the health department has to make sure at least 65 percent of its dental patients have Medicaid or another form of health insurance, Schade said. That would provide a 35 percent cap on the number of people who have no coverage and who might be able to afford only the $25 minimum fee, he said.

Currently, the balance between insured and uninsured is about 50/50, he said.



All you have to do is to turn in your 50" plasma and Gameboy and you are in like flint!


Its easier to sit and home and be a complete loser than to go out and be a productice member of society. What a shame.


@Andrew Google is paying 75$/hour! Just work for few hours & have more time with friends and family. On Sunday I bought themselves a Alfa Romeo from having made $5637 this month. I never thought I'd be able to do it but my best friend earns over 10k a month doing this and she convinced me to try this


I am one of those people that has to "sit" home. It's not by choice. And it really pisses me off when you jerks come on here and bash disabled people. Some of us are sick and can not work. I am not sitting here watching a 50" plasma or playing gameboy, but I still can't work. So I guess that makes me one of your unproductive members of society. You are probably the one sitting on your fat a$$ playing x box on a 50" plasma.


If you really can't work, then I don't argue that you should receive some help if it's needed. The problem isn't you. The problem is people who LIE about being unable to work and who PRETEND to have some disability or another! My guess is that the truly disabled would give just about anything to be pretending.

Meanwhile, the pretenders are sucking up resources that we can't afford, they're effectively stealing resources that people like you truly need, and few in officialdom seem to have the will to go after them. Realistically, instead of being angry at those of us who are truly disgusted by the rampant fraud, you should be angry at the people who deserve it: Those whose crimes hurt ALL of us, including YOU!


Apparently you have enough disposable income to pay for internet service though. If you can type away on a keyboard you are not to disabled to take some sort job.


In your world, disabled people should have nothing, right? You don't know if he has internet or if he lives with someone that does. Count your own money and being able to type does not guarantee you a job.


This being disabled stuff is all new to me. Trust me I would rather be working. I had no problem with my tax dollar going to help someone who truly needed it. You are right if I were a junkie or pregnet with 3 or 4 more kids they would be falling all over theirselves to give me aide. But I get nothing. And it does make me mad. But every time I see someone bashing disability I feel like I am tossed in that box too.


I hope you take this in the spirit it is given. There are disabled people and there are people who allow themselves to be disabled. I have a cousin who is in a wheelchair. She has a terrible time breathing. She gets up every day, wheels herself to her car, (she can walk from the back to the front seat), drives herself to work where she sits in front of a computer. She says she is not disabled. Then there are those that are disabled who can still golf, do home projects, etc. I understand that there are many out there who cannot do ANY labor. Those are the disabled ones.


Your cousin is very fortunate to still be driving.


Exactly! She doesn't sound like a "truly" disabled person.


Justchillin, I'm really glad that you'll get some assistance with your health care under the Medicaid expansion. Not all of us are heartless! Unbeknownst to a lot of the people that post on this website (probably because they only get their news from right wing outlets, and we all know that the right wing has done everything in their power to make the new law fail), the Medicaid expansion will probably help lower and/or maintain their own health insurance costs. This expansion isn't for those people sitting at home watching their 50" plasma TVs and doing nothing -- I used to employ a lot of young adults and middle aged adults. Although I paid a couple of dollars above the minimum wage, these people couldn't afford health care. A vast majority of the people I employed were very hard working folks, not at all the "takers" that people on this site make anyone needing assistance out to be. Here are some things about the Medicaid expansion that might surprise you:

- About half of the uninsured in America would be covered by Medicaid expansion.

- The uninsured currently cost State tax payers billions in unpaid hospitals bills.

- Millions of Americans will be able to get care before they are forced to use costly last minute emergency services in State's that support expansion.

- Unpaid hospital bills to hospitals are one of the main causes of rising premium costs.

- The Federal Government pays 100% of expansion costs for the first three years and 90% thereafter until 2022.

- Many States have shown that expanding Medicaid actually raises money for the State.

It's fashionable to talk tough and paint the less fortunate out to be a huge burden to our society. Let me tell you, a lot of the poor and working poor are in their situations not because they choose to be, but because they're dealing with the hand that was dealt to them. Many of them didn't have "Mommy and Daddy" there to pay for college, thus forcing them into lower paying jobs. Even maintaining a car and the cost of child care can be a huge burden to many of them. I just can't understand how we can even call ourselves a civilized society if we worry more about the few that take advantage of the system rather than worrying about how we can assure that no man, woman or child will go without health care, medicine and food.

Go ahead, let the tough talk and bashing begin. Fortunately for me, I don't really care.


Thank you!


Re: "The Federal Government pays 100% of expansion costs for the first three years and 90% thereafter until 2022."

And Fed govt. money originates from where?


Re: "I don't really care."

And therein lies the problem of most progressive-socialists - "we can have it all" and never mind the costs.

Old "joke" in Soviet Eastern Europe:

Yea, they make us all equal, equally poor.


I agree SA. Abuses need stopped. Heard some got on the draw/hillbilly retirement.


Know this:

Approx. 30% of Medicaid funds go to pay for nursing home care.

The avg. cost of annual nursing home care is $80K.

Approx. 10K of the 78 million baby boomers turn age 65 every day. Most have no assets with which to pay for nursing home care.

Medicaid increasingly needs taxpayer funds and will help financially break this county.

The progressive lefty "we can have it all" crowd made and continue to make promises that are fiscally impossible to keep.


I'm still looking for that 80k figure in the link you provided!


It's called MATH! You should try it!

"The national average daily rate for a private room in a nursing home is $248, while a semi-private room is $222 up from $239 and $214 respectively in 2011."

$222 per day x 365 Days = $81,030.00


Re: "I'm still looking,"

Click on the link provided, see the first bullet point and multiply.

We've HAD this discussion before.

You dumped your mother-in-law on Medicaid. Did you think that the cost of her care was FREE?


So you post links then do your own math? Well, figure in what the resident pays after all of their belongings are seized including their SS check then do the Math. You clowns really believe Medicaid sends a 6000 dollars check to the nursing home per resident each month? How dumb can you be? You can't dump anyone on Medicaid. Either you qualify for it or you don't. I know the cost isn't free because my wife sent a check to the nursing home each month. You have no clue what you are ranting about. As usual!


Re: "You clowns really believe Medicaid sends a 6000 dollars check to the nursing home per resident each month?"

Why, what do you think is the amount that Medicaid pays per resident ea. month?

So Metlife is lying about the avg. costs?

WHO is making up any and all differences in costs Cupcake?

Regardless, the total cost of the state payments is only going to increase due to the advent of the largely 'broke' boomers.

And YES, you "dumped" the cost of her care onto fellow taxpayers.

A 'good' socialist like yourself should have went broke providing for her.


I saw the bills and after her being there for three years the amount they paid was no where near 80k and yes the semi private room was over 200 dollars per day. Furthermore, she worked her entire life never needing or wanting any assistance so she paid in advance. Taxpayers paid SQUAT! Is "socialist" the word of choice today when you get busted embellishing? Metlife pays for nursing home care? I don't think so. How gullible?


Re: "semi private room was over 200 dollars per day."

Get out your "Hello Kitty" calculator and 'try' to follow along.

$200 x 365 = $73K

Close 'enough' to $80K for you Cupcake?

Metlife used to sell long-term care ins.

They like most got out the business because it was an actuarial nightmare due to ever rising costs.

The POINT remains: Medicaid funded nursing home care will help bankrupt this country.


NO! 73k is not 80k regardless of how YOU do the math. You need to upgrade from your "pooh calculator." Why does an insurance stop selling ins? Not profitable! Once again, listen carefully, either you self pay or Medicaid pays for NH care. That's the only way. Neither insurance or Medicare pay for NH care. Got it? Do you need a picture?


Re: "either you self pay or Medicaid pays for NH care"

AND if one has it: Long-term care insurance.

Medicare THROUGH a hospice will cover some expenses.

Good to see that you FINALLY got it Cupcake.


You mean that long term ins. most companies don't offer? Make up your mind. Hospice is medical care NOT NH care!


Re: "Hospice is medical care NOT NH care!"

But, it can be performed in a nursing home and offset cost.


My father-in-law had Hospice care in a nursing home, so it can be done and is not unusual. in the least.


deertracker, Re;NO! 73k is not 80k regardless of how YOU do the math.

It seems that what you are saying is that your cost was $200.00 per day so all of the nursing homes charged $200.00 per day no matter where they were located or what degree of care they were required to give.

I do think that different parts of the country may charge differently and I also think that not all patients are in need of the same level of assistance.


"For every dollar of allowable cost incurred in providing long term care for a Medicaid patient in 2011, the Medicaid program reimbursed approximately 90 cents on average."


The key word is "allowable" pooh. Ask your buddy GI Joe how much Medicaid pays? If a doctor bills Medicaid for 500 bucks, he might get 50 of it. I have seen the bills and the EOBs.


Shall we call you Barbie?

Mr. D

You are correct deertracker. . . Some of these big mouths lack the intellegence to comprehend what happens in nursing home situations.
Going thru it as POA for a relative. . . I really hope none of these "experts" on disability and medicaid neverhave to deal with; for they will most certainly find out it is not a free ride!


The gov't needs to re-evaluate EVERY person on disability. Kicking those who are not disabled out as well as possible prosecution for theft.


Agreed. And it should be pointed out that some disabilities don't preclude work. Sure, if you lose a leg you might not be able to stand on an assembly line all day or be a mail carrier. But why can't you work a desk job of some sort?

I've always believed that ANY kind of assistance should be "earned." Whether the woman who keeps popping out kids has to mop the courthouse floors, or the man who has "no skills" has to pick up trash in public parks, those "paychecks" should require work!

I'd only make two exceptions:

1. The TRULY disabled, and

2. Schooling/re-training counts as a "job" until graduation.

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What about the lawyers that get them on disability? READ THIS...


A lawyer gets you on disability? SMDH!!!!!


Only if there are jobs available and the employer wishes to hire someone disabled; with the increased cost of worker's comp and liability insurance costs.

That's a big IF. Most employers don't want the hassle.


Exactly and if you get too sick while you are employed the door awaits you.

Mr. D

So true, some disabled can work; most want to. However, the problem with your logic is most employers don't want an employee with a disabilities. Persons with disabilities are very highly discriminated against in the job market,
We can re evaluate and retrain and require persons with disabilities to do whatever, but until employers are made to stop discriminating in their hiring practices, your ideas are just a waste of time.




So the gov't gets to decide if you are disabled?


The government already does. If you file for SS Disability, Worker's Comp Disability, etc, isn't a government entity that decides?


And I recently read that approx. 60% bring an attorney to the hearing.

BIG BUCKS for the liberal special interest lobby campaign slush fund.


No Pete, they decide based on a physician's report. DUH!


The physicians report is sent to who? Who has the final say if a person gets it or not?


Hey, I found a website that may help you get out of the minimum wage job you have. Work at this and someday you may actually be able to support yourself and become a productive member of society!


They decide if you qualify, not if you are actually disabled. You may be unable to do the job you had but still able to do something IF you can get a job. Snap out of it, you sound dumb but hey, maybe you are!

The Big Dog's back

Are you two, sam and dr, willing to foot the bill to recheck everyone?

Dr. Information

Lets not forget the many of Dr.s that aid in this also. Patients will go to 12 different doctors claiming the previous one didn't listen to them because they NEED to be on disability. Eventually one caves in, fills out the papers and you have another dependent.


Well Dr., maybe you should change your unethical ways.

Mr. D

Really now dr. ; who could pay to go to 12 different doctors if they are disabled, unemployed and have no insurance. Even if that might happen, other medical evaluations are built in to the procedure to help prevent fraud.

Dr. Information

Regardless of what you say or believe it happens. Have a nice day in fairytale land.


Re: Nursing home care.

Beware of filial responsibility laws.

OH is one of several states that have statutes on the books that can hold children financially responsible for their parent's nursing home care.

Other states have 'indeed' exercised these laws.


deertracker writes: "Taxpayers paid SQUAT"

"My mother in law died in a nursing facility.....may she R I P......and the cost to Medicaid was nowhere near 80k."

– deertracker, Oct. 1, 2013

Medicaid IS taxpayer money.

The "average" cost of nursing home care is 80K. Costs differ according to region - some more, some less.


Deertracker winner. Contango also ran.


Re: "Deertracker (snip)"

Only in your off-topic demented mind Capt. Kook. :)


Sue Daugherty
Executive Director
Serving Our Seniors

Dear Sue,

I read with interest your recent article in the Sandusky Register, which I have attached. It struck me how opposite it was from what I have been reading from almost every news outlet and both sides of the issue. I think the reference of a “train wreck” by Senator Max Baucus, democrat and the driver of the Affordable Care Act Bill (ACA/Obamacare), in the senate. It has turned out to be an apt description. You mention that Mr. Forney, CEO of Family Health Services, advised to forget about the negative media attention. He reports many consumers have enrolled with no website crashes & an extraordinary success of an example of someone “paying less & getting more”. I happen to be a concerned senior and have done my own research. It seems to me there is plenty to fear for seniors, as well as all Americans, with the roll out of this disaster.

The issue of the faulty website is just the beginning of this fiasco. You have to understand what Obamacare was designed to do and for whom. It’s a redistribution of wealth scheme designed to give free or cheap insurance to 30 million low income Americans (10%) with no insurance. This low cost insurance is to be subsidized by charging young singles, middle class families, small business owners, etc., higher premiums & higher deductibles thus shifting insurance costs. This was done even though 88% of Americans polled by Quinnipiac, before the ACA bill was passed, were satisfied with their insurance. Already 15 million Americans have lost their coverage with another 90 to 100 million coming next year. That’s 33 to 37% of Americans who are projected to lose the insurance they’re happy with and reportedly will pay double premiums & triple deductibles for new insurance. Some of these high deductibles amount to having no insurance at all. Add to this the loss of doctors & hospitals that are not included in ACA system, you have a medical care scarcity that threatens to be epidemic.

In the case of seniors like myself on Medicare, we are not going to be unscathed either. First, we must be aware that the website has no security built into it as confirmed by Kathleen Sibelius, the Head of Obamacare. Experts have testified of the danger of hackers having free access to personal medical & financial information who sign on to this unsecure website. They have warned they would not put their personal information on this site now Second, for seniors, the so-called “death panels” where impersonal bureaucrats will make life & death decisions based on cost, concerns me & should other seniors. Third, it was recently announced that doctors, now learning of the decreases in reimbursement for Medicare patients under Obamacare, have to make the decision whether they can afford to treat them any longer. So it’s not just the incompetence of the system, the loss of coverage, the cost increases & the uncertainty; it’s the loss of quality and scarcity of care.

These are only some of the concerns I have as a senior. They are not rumors or “negative media” as you mention in your letter above. These are facts, being reported by both sides of this issue. It would seem to me that you and Mr. Forney, in your positions of servicing seniors & families, would be warning those who you serve of these problems, rather than telling us to “pay no attention to negative reports and proceed ahead as though everything is rosy”. In my opinion this is not “servicing our seniors” or families!


bigbear-- You have obviously been watching too much Faux News and listening to Sarah Palin. Death Panels--really???? Even today, people who wish to end their own life due to a disease-ridden body have to go through hell and high water. There are way too many folks out there who fell through the cracks due to the lack of affordable healthcare. I don't understand why people can't just sit back and give it a try before they condemn it.


Re: "Death Panels--really????"

It's a matter of economics:

Medical costs will be controlled through a price mechanism in the private sector, or made by bureaucrats (death panels) in the public sector.

Even the liberals' favorite economist Paul Krugman fested up:


Re: "I don't understand why people can't just sit back and give it a try before they condemn it."

You obviously didn't have your health ins. policy cancelled and have been unable to find a comparable one with the same provider network like millions of others have.

Just wait until the employer mandates start kicking in and employers dump their health plans and fire people.

Read PolitiFact’s “Lie of the Year,” it’ll explain a lot to you: