Police: Dad charged with domestic violence for beating son

A Sandusky father beat his son with a belt Thursday after the boy got kicked out of school, a Sandusky police report said.
Sandusky Register Staff
Mar 17, 2012

A Sandusky father beat his son with a belt Thursday after the boy got kicked out of school, a Sandusky police report said.

Michael Miller, 32, was later charged with domestic violence.

The boy, 12, called 911 at about 11 a.m. and told police his father had just beat him up. Police arrived at the home in the 1600 block of Carr St. and located the boy, who had welts on his head, back and left arm, the report said.

“(The boy) advised his father ... arrived at the listed location in a gold four door car and told him to get in,” a report said. “(The boy) stated that Michael then took him to his girlfriend’s house and beat him up.”

The school principal sent the boy home Thursday for “disrespectful behavior,” the report said. The boy’s grandmother came to pick him up at school, but he ran off.

Comments

Professor Playdoh

Some people might think this was wrong.. The only thing I see is wrong was the kid was able to dial the phone.

 

OMGreally

I am actually with Professor on this...other then the welts to the head....when I was a kid I got beat with a belt several times..trust me you remember...

Super Judge
1 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 03/06/1992
Arr. Agency: SSPD Case #: CRB9200603
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: DOM VIOLENCE
Case Type: Criminal 2 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 07/16/1992
Arr. Agency: N/A Case #: CVI9201913
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: PERSONAL LOAN
Case Type: Small Claims 3 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 11/13/1992
Arr. Agency: SPD Case #: CRB9203917
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: DIS CONDUCT
Case Type: Criminal 4 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 09/07/1993
Arr. Agency: SPD Case #: CRB9303060
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: DIS CONDUCT
Case Type: Criminal 5 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 08/11/1993
Arr. Agency: SPD Case #: TR9304576
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: PARKING TICK
Case Type: Traffic 6 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 08/30/1995
Arr. Agency: SSPD Case #: CRB9503810
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: DOM VIOLENCE
Case Type: Criminal 7 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 02/01/1996
Arr. Agency: SSPD Case #: CRA9600373
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: DOM VIOLENCE
Case Type: Criminal 8 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 04/10/1996
Arr. Agency: SPK Case #: CRB9601103
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: TRESPASSING
Case Type: Criminal 9 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 09/05/1996
Arr. Agency: SPK Case #: TRD9607001
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: RED LIGHT
Case Type: Traffic 10 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 09/11/1996
Arr. Agency: SPK Case #: TRD9607191
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: SPEED 48/35
Case Type: Traffic 11 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 10/09/1996
Arr. Agency: SPK Case #: TRD9608053
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: 50/35 SPEED
Case Type: Traffic 12 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 10/09/1996
Arr. Agency: SPD Case #: TRD9608058
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: NO SEAT BELT
Case Type: Traffic 13 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 05/02/1997
Arr. Agency: SPD Case #: TRD9703190
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: FTY RIGHT WAY
Case Type: Traffic 14 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 05/02/1997
Arr. Agency: SPD Case #: TRD9703190B
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: NO SEAT BELT
Case Type: Traffic 15 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 08/04/1997
Arr. Agency: SPK Case #: TRD9705825
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: LEFT OF CENTER
Case Type: Traffic 16 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 08/26/1997
Arr. Agency: SSPD Case #: TRD9706358A
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: VIOL O L REQ
Case Type: Traffic 17 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 08/26/1997
Arr. Agency: SPD Case #: TRD9706358B
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: COMP W/POLICE
Case Type: Traffic 18 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 08/26/1997
Arr. Agency: SSPD Case #: TRD9706358C
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: VIOL TURN SIGN
Case Type: Traffic 19 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 08/26/1997
Arr. Agency: SSPD Case #: TRD9706358D
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: NO SEAT BELT
Case Type: Traffic 20 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 06/08/1998
Arr. Agency: SPD Case #: TRD9803944
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: 50/35 SPEED
Case Type: Traffic 21 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 08/26/1998
Arr. Agency: SPD Case #: TRD9806400
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: FAILURE/CONTROL
Case Type: Traffic 22 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 10/26/1998
Arr. Agency: SPD Case #: TRD9807847A
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: RED LIGHT/SIGN
Case Type: Traffic 23 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 10/26/1998
Arr. Agency: SPD Case #: TRD9807847B
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: NO SEAT BELT
Case Type: Traffic 24 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 09/07/1999
Arr. Agency: CP Case #: CRB9904236
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: INTOXICATION
Case Type: Criminal 25 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 12/06/1999
Arr. Agency: SPD Case #: TRD9908669
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: STOP SIGN
Case Type: Traffic 1 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 08/01/2002
Arr. Agency: N/A Case #: CVF0201930
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: MONEY ONLY
Case Type: Civil 2 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 09/26/2003
Arr. Agency: SPD Case #: TRD0306145
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: UNSAFE VEHICLE
Case Type: Traffic 3 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 03/12/2004
Arr. Agency: SPK Case #: TRD0401368
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: FAILURE CONTROL
Case Type: Traffic 4 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 03/17/2009
Arr. Agency: SPK Case #: CRB0900880A
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: DISORDERLY COND
Case Type: Criminal 5 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 03/17/2009
Arr. Agency: SPK Case #: CRB0900880B
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: OBSTRUCTING
Case Type: Criminal 6 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 03/17/2009
Arr. Agency: SPK Case #: CRB0900880C
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: INDUCING PANIC
Case Type: Criminal 7 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 08/18/2010
Arr. Agency: N/A Case #: CVF1001719
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: MONEY ONLY
Case Type: Civil 8 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 04/11/2011
Arr. Agency: SSPD Case #: CRB1100899
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: ASSAULT
Case Type: Criminal 9 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 05/12/2011
Arr. Agency: N/A Case #: CVG1100921
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: FORCIBLE ENTRY
Case Type: Civil 10 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 12/21/1992
Arr. Agency: SPD Case #: TRD9207392A
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: NO OPER LIC
Case Type: Traffic 11 Concerning: Miller, Michael
D.B.A./A.K.A.:
Filed: 12/21/1992
Arr. Agency: SPD Case #: TRD9207392B
Docket Entry: Click
Charge: F DISPLAY PLATE
Case Type: Traffic

Father of the year.

althenaruby

Super Judge-  32 of those entries are for a Michael Miller DOB 10/11/1952.  The guy in this article is only 32.

I didnt see any charges for someone born in 1980 or 1979

Pragmatic
  If anyone has the insightfulness to read between these lines….I think people would see something different than the connotations made in the previous posts.  Grandma…picking him up from school after getting kicked out. This calls for a parent to be present. If no parent is present for that sort of issue…are they absent in everything else? Then, dad took the kid to his “girlfriend’s” house. Is he being raised by grandma, dad, mom, the girlfriend…??? Then, rather than try and figure out what’s going on…he beat’s his kid with a belt. There is a lot more going on here than just a disobedient 12 year old boy. Most likely - this isn't the first abusive behavior by the father.    Research for decades has indicated that hitting on a child (or spanking…whatever people call it) absolutely does not work as a discipline measure.  This research comes from psychology journals which provide real evidence (not the Parenting magazine you can buy off a magazine rack with opinions).  Even a  judge in a court of law doesn't assign this to someone who has murdered someone...they don't give out the punishment of:  beating with a belt!  That's because...it doesn't work.  We think it would...because it sounds logical.    Hitting a child makes the parents feel like they “did something” - - it's much harder to use our reasonsing skills than it is to allow our emotions to take over and use our hand or an object to get the message across.      Look, say what you want to (based on how you were raised…or your own values)…but, looking at this deeper and more intelligently…I don’t think this 12 year old had a chance to begin with. It doesn’t sound like he has had anyone to parent him. There is discipline…then, there is just plain ole’ assault. There is a difference even if people cannot conceptualize that. However, good parents start discipline at a much younger age….all the while finding balance between that - - and love. Frontloading my time into my child starting at 2 years of age (creating habits, molding behavior) worked wonderfully. It was time consuming, but worth it now that he’s almost a teenager. He knows what’s acceptable and what is not. I’ve never had to hit, spank, slap, beat, or assault him. Spanking is a preference in discipline. It isn’t illegal. But, just because it isn’t illegal doesn’t mean it works on the psyche of the kid to form better habits and to be self-motivated.      Being a parent (a good parent) is hard. We are supposed to influence our children…and entice them to follow our lead (and to even reach higher than we have). We are supposed to be leaders. I don’t think this 12 year old had much to follow. Maybe…it’s the parents who need the discipline.    
Warhol_89

I'm just going to say that beating with a belt to the point of leaving welts on a child is abuse. But spanking, absolutely not. I was spanked as a child and while I still make mistakes like everyone else, i've turned out to be a decent human being growing up. If I was raised on time-outs or anything like that, I probably would have never learned. And to this day I still don't understand why people consider spanking "abuse" or think it's cruel when parents do it to their kids in public... I just don't get it. The parents have to let their kids know who's the boss and teach them right from wrong. Just as comedian Steve McGrew said "So you put em' in time out. Why? So they can plan more evil sh** to do?", and it's no closer to the truth. Just as long as they let their kids know every once in awhile that they spank them because they love them, i'm more than sure the kids will be fine.

SimpleEnough

Pragmatic, Like my Neice, who likes to play everyone and then the drama she adds to the equation.

SaraMac

 Years ago, I disobeyed my Dad.He whipped my butt with a belt. I also called the police.The officer that came to our house, listened to my smart mouth for a few minutes.And promptly told me I deserved every swat I received. And yes, I was bruised too. 

SimpleEnough

SaraMac, Did it scar you for life or was it the beginning of an eye opener for ya about life?

SaraMac

@SimpleEnough- A real eye opener!! 

beatstreet

Allowing kids the right and ability to have parents arrested for disciplining them, ( inspite of the many other challenging dynamics with this family), destroys the ability to control one's own kids. We read far too many calls in the police blotter where the police are called to be parents. Most of them don't involve welts on the head, etc.

Police handling parenting matters is a lose-lose for everyone. The trend needs to be reversed. Good, bad, or otherwise, we cannot use the police to settle every dispute with defiant kids. Arrest and prosecution is not a one size fits all solution to family issues.

Professor Playdoh

If I was teaching today.. I’d be in jail.. These kids walk through the school with their pants down, flipping off teachers with no respect for anything. They get suspended over and over and sent home to play Xbox. All we do is train them that there are no consequences for their actions…  If you spank me I’ll call the cops… Paddles rule…

EZOB

Pragmatic;

              So this new trend in teaching and parenting, how is it working-out for you.  I sure haven't seen thing improve for the Teachers, Parents, and Certainly the Children.  Do Ya think just maybe, the old ways were better or do you really like the "Change"???????????

bullydogs1971

 Kudos to dad!  Too many kids need a askwoopin and most parents are afraid or dont care enough to do it.  Maybe we wouldnt have so many "hoodlums" runnin the streets.  My kids were spanked as soon as they knew what no meant,( probably about 1yrs old) by the time they were 7 or 8 they "got it".  They are respectful, intelligent, and loving teenagers now.  They show respect to their elders, excel in all they do and dont dare raise a voice to their mother.  Thank god for the paddle!  Im tired of this "warm fuzzy" society that just wants to give everybody a time out.  I got your time out......it time to go out and cut your own switch just like the old days boys and girls....kids need discipline not timeouts.  Who is afraid or cares about a time out.  When my assk was beat i listened.  A few bruise when we are young is alot better than the scars left by a generation of undisciplined kids that grow up to think they can do want they want to who ever and screw the consequences......bring back corporal punishment!

happycamper01

The child just learned that he does not have to obey his father, grandmother, or the school.  The kid will now threaten his father everytime he tries to discipline him.  I am willing to be that this kid did not call the police because he was severly hurt, scared of, or emotionally damaged but because he was pissed off at his dad because he was punished for getting kicked out of school and then ran off when his grandmother went to pick him up.  If his behavior was that bad at school do you really think he would have cared if his dad sent him to his room, grounded him, or took other privileges away?  Maybe he should not have used a belt but the kid was obviously out of control and needed some firm and harsh punishment.  Next time send him to the DH and tell the court to take custody so they can send him somewhere so that he can learn that the grass isn't always greener on the other side.  Youngstown Youth Academy, Boys Village, or his behavior can go unchecked and he can end up at Indian River or any other state run youth "prison." 

Professor Playdoh

To the Judge that will "try"  Mr. Miller..................

Thank Him.......

Shake his hand...

 

grandmasgirl

I agree with most of these posts. I like the comment "Frontloading my time into my child starting at 2 years of age (creating habits, molding behavior) worked wonderfully. It was time consuming, but worth it now that he’s almost a teenager. He knows what’s acceptable and what is not." All I have to say is, if he isn't a teenager yet, you don't know what kind of a child you have raised. He might just surprise you someday and you will find out that you are no different than any other parent who has tried and failed. I say "good for dad". Maybe he just got fed up with trying and being disrespected while all the time trying to put food in this worthless kid's mouth. And maybe after a little more discipline the child might turn out to be worth something after all.

KnuckleDragger

The kid should have gotten his rear beat. I see nothing wrong with what the father did.  Thank God we live in the country.  My kids know that it takes the Sheriff 25 min to respond out here, and they take that into consideration when thinking of calling 911.  If more kids got it with the belt, they would be a bit less disrespectful.  As for superjudge, you posted the record of the WRONG Michael Miller.  Nice try.

KnuckleDragger

@pragmatic says, "Research for decades has indicated that hitting on a child (or spanking…whatever people call it) absolutely does not work as a discipline measure."

This is old research, the newest research coming out is showing that they were wrong and that the research methods used to come to those conclusions were flawed. Even the American Academy of Pediatrics found the research against spanking only to be correlational and DOES NOT show causation, which means the jury is still out in their minds.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/25/us/findings-give-some-support-to-advocates-of-spanking.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

 

http://humansciences.okstate.edu/facultystaff/Larzelere/

Researchers John Lyons, Rachel Anderson and David Larson of the National Institute of Healthcare Research recently conducted a systematic review of the research literature on corporal punishment.[6] They found that 83 percent of the 132 identified articles published in clinical and psychosocial journals were merely opinion-driven editorials, reviews or commentaries, devoid of new empirical findings. Moreover, most of the empirical studies were methodologically flawed by grouping the impact of abuse with spanking. The best studies demonstrated beneficial, not detrimental, effects of spanking in certain situations. Clearly, there is insufficient evidence to condemn parental spanking and adequate evidence to justify its proper use.

http://users.rcn.com/mgfree/Spanking/spankResearch.html

czechurself

In my opinion, everyone is right.  A combination of consequence and counsel is necessary.  Choosing one and not the other is lazy.   

I'll be willing to bet that the boy got the whooping for disrespecting grandma over anything else. 

lor70

If my kids were sent home from school for any kind of behavioral issue would've gotten a spanking!  I see nothing wrong with that, however, beating them with a belt until there were welts...that's a different story!  This is probably one of the reasons why the boy acts the way he does!!  How many times has this happened to him in the past?  There is a fine line between beating and discipline!

mamaC

the kid needs it again!  For calling the cops!!! Until kids stop thinking they have more rights then us parents this world will continue to go down hill. I am not saying beat your kids for no reason is alright. But when I was a kid if I came home with a detention I was scared and knew my butt was gonna get a spanking ... I turned out just fine! This generation is so screwed up with all these self intitled kids! 

Kimo

 

Will all the posters that think beating on people is the best way to prove a point, please stand.

No wonder this country is in the shape it's in.

 

November India Golf

yet meat beating is perfectly accepatable in today's schools

Publius

Hitler (head of the National German Workers Socialist Party - NAZI for short) created a police state using children to turn in their parents.  We all faced the belt as children, and I believe we are the better for it.  This boy is an example of how we are turning future men into... something else.  What kind of authority will this man have over his son now?  We relinquished raising our children over to the State.  This is the result, an inversion of values.  The kid now disciplines the father. 

Kottage Kat

Pragmatic,

 When I was growing up, getting disciplined by the hand to tush methold was very effective. My parents did not consult Dr. Spock (sp) on what do do when we needed to be corrected.

My father was not a user of the belt, and did not believe in it. At 6' 4 1/2" huis hands were big enough to get the message across. At barely 5" I did not try to outrun him. He was a gentle man, and very seldom had to use his hands on us. Mom was a diffrent story, she was chief of the "swatters"

With us it was a respect issue and that is the factor missing in the parenting equation in this day and age. My Mom may have raised a short fat kid, she did not raise a dumb one, and I was a fast learner. Not many offenses were repeated once I had been shown the error of my ways.  The fear of God and Mom sure influenced our behaviour.   Had I ben sent home ffrom school, I would have been wearing dentures before I was 13. 

I do not approve of the methold, I applaud the father for the discipline.         Kat

stepham2009

 I agree that the dad had EVERY right to discipline his son....I disciplined my kids when they were little with a belt when needed.....but to leave welts on his face etc was crossing the line....

Had Mr. Miller given his son a few good whacks to the backside I doubt anything would've been done to him.....

We ALL were disciplined with belts, switches (remember when mom or granny made you PICK your switch?) and their hands and we are all for the better.....I can honestly say my kids are not CRIMINALS, HAVE REPSECT FOR OTHERS, ARE NOT DRUG ADDICTS OR TEENAGE PARENTS and I credit that to DISCIPLINE and not just TIME OUT.....

Professor Playdoh

I wish I could explain to you about going to school in the 50s and 60s... Teachers were respected by the parents and the kids.. I can't imagine a student telling a teacher to “F off”  or whatever. …. The paddle or the fear of the paddle was a real deterrent not only to the paddled student but for the other 100 student that heard it, or heard about it. And heaven forbid what happen when you got home… I can’t think of anything worst than hearing your mom say..”Wait until your father gets home”.  And yes it was a better time.

Kottage Kat

Professor,  My fear of the discipline from a teacher, was not near as great as the fear that I had of what I would get when I got home. Teachers used to call the parents and advise them that the discipline had taken place and the reason. Parents were parents, NOT my friend. Respect for ones parents did not have to be earned, it was a given, because they were your parents. The lessons I learned then, are still with me today.

I graduated in 1966, my 4th grade teacher is still living, and when I see her it is Mrs.------, she has asked me to call her by her first name, just cannot do it, seems disrepectful. She is 96 years old and stil going strong. I respected her in 1957 and I do today. The same wirh all my former teachers. So sad that life and parenting have taken a turn for the worse, not ALL parents, those who just have not controlled their children and taught them to respect others.  Parenting is your JOB, and you need to do it. Not by beating your kids, discipline them and tell them it is being done to make them better and out of love. Be an example, and just maybe one or two might get the message.      Kat

WhatTheHeck

 Somebody should start a defense fund for this guy! Congratulations to Mr. Miller for having some old fashioned morals. And to all you free spirited liberals....you will be paying for the wrath of the over protected and unpunished youth of today for a very, very long time.

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