Obama plans to change overtime pay

Bypassing Congress, President Barack Obama intends to order changes in overtime rules so employers would be required to pay millions more workers for the extra time they put in on the job.
Associated Press
Mar 13, 2014

The rules, which would not likely take effect until 2015, are aimed at workers currently designated as supervisory employees but who are exempt from overtime because they get paid a salary of more than $455 a week.

Obama plans to order his Labor Department to recommend regulations that would increase that salary threshold and change the definition of what constitutes a supervisor.

The president’s directive, to be announced today, leaves the details of a proposed rule to the Labor Department, which is not expected to come up with a recommendation before the fall. Still, it drew swift protests from Republicans, who complained he was sidestepping Congress and from the business community, who said such rules would increase burdens on employers.

“How does he expect us to work with him?” complained Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. “It’s just a poisonous relationship”

The salary limit separating those who get overtime and those who don’t was increased to $455 in 2004 during the Bush administration. At the time, it hadn’t been increased since the mid-1970s.

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There you go again

Yep, that move will certainly encourage companies to hire more workers. And this helps the unemployed how, Mr. President?

holysee

racist piggy

Dr. Information

Race card pulled early over a question, how typical. Let me guess, you are black?

JudgeMeNot

No, just a racecard puller with nothing intelligent to add to the question.

Commenter

It's stupid comments like this, littered throughout this thread that make me not like to participate on the comments. Too bad you can't hide someone's comments

SamAdams

The Obama solution to higher paying jobs? Why, demand that people get paid more, of course! It's so simple a 5 year-old could have thought of it! And in this case, it's also dumb enough that a 5 year-old probably DID.

holysee

racist piggy

JudgeMeNot

dumb piggy.

coasterfan

Not the only solution. Just one of many things that can and should be done to increase worker wages. Are you saying that workers should not be paid fairly when they work overtime?

Contango

Re: "Not the only solution."

As you wrote:

“Please…provide scientific evidence and/or results from research studies that support your viewpoint.”

- coasterfan, 3/13/14

SamAdams

What is a "fair" wage? I believe a fair wage is the one the employer offered and the employee accepted. (Even if an employer were to offer an UNfair wage, the employee doesn't have to agree to it! This, in turn, encourages employers to offer fair -- or fair-er -- wages since nobody accepts the unfair offers).

Part of the offer and acceptance of a given wage is whether or not the position is exempt or non-exempt. Once offered and accepted and with the full cooperation of both parties, to coerce changes by an outside force is neither fair NOR ethical.

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The Hero Zone

I'll be jealous of you Sam if you get him to define one of those nebulous, bumper sticker phrases. I've been trying for a while and only gotten no reply or I think Big Dog gave me a "if you have to ask I'm not going to tell you" type responses.

They sound great to say. After all who doesn't want "fair" anything? But unless it is accompanied by a descriptor it is as meaningless as telling the police your assailant was a male and that's it. Are you just going to presume that the police know who it is based on that? After all, you do since you are the one providing the description.

To be fair to coasterfan, maybe he doesn't realize that he is doing it. When you read party emails or only source your info from one biased viewpoint both of those are written to cater to their consumers' expectations. So it is lost in translation what those throwaway phrases mean when he steps outside his bubble to convey those points to people who think differently than he. That also explains his relative lack of sources since he unquestioningly accepts whichever convenient slogan or statistic is placed in his news source.

That is why I am frustrated that he is/was a teacher.

I don't know about you Sam but I would love to have a commentator here that was more "left-leaning" who can articulate points and explain his/her position in-depth. Someone who could challenge my thoughts, inspire new ones, and try to convince me of something instead of tearing away. I'd love an honest, civil discussion that focuses on ideas and not parties.

LadyC

Many times, things change after a job has been accepted. Full time is normally thought of as 40 hours, not 50 or 60. And duties may be added after the person accepts the job. It isn't always as cut and dried as it appears in a job description. And without a contract (as in where the dreaded U word comes in), the employee has no bargaining power at all, and is at the mercy of the employer. Of course, they could always just happily skip to another full time position, there is such an abundance right now. (sarcasm) Much as I despise greed and trickery by higher-ups, I think this will backfire and should probably be left alone.

Donegan

fas·cism
[fash-iz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
( sometimes initial capital letter ) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
2.
( sometimes initial capital letter ) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.
3.
( initial capital letter ) a political movement that employs the principles and methods of fascism, especially the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922–43.
Sound familiar?

2cents

Hey! I got a pen too : )

http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/q...

Truth2u

The only difference between Obama and Adolf is Obama didn't need a Kaiser hand the presidency to him, the closed minded and selfish who want government to steal from others and give it to them just threw the lever and opened the door for him.

Great post Donegan

SamAdams

Well, and Obama hasn't engaged in in-country mass extermination of a particular group of people. Yet.

holysee

racist piggy

slightthroat212

that isn't a racist comment, Holysee. Not at all.

coasterfan

Dream on, Donegan. It's well documented that Obama has used Executive Action FEWER times than the previous 4 Presidents. That fact is all the more eye-opening when you consider that the current Congress is far far FAR more intransigent than those of the past.

Cracks me up how Republicans vacillate back and forth between calling Obama a weak, ineffective leader and a dictator/tyrant - often in the same week. Do you have any idea just how silly you sound?

Contango

Re: "It's well documented,"

As you wrote:

“Please…provide scientific evidence and/or results from research studies that support your viewpoint.”

- coasterfan, 3/13/14

Donegan

Do you understand how silly you sound trying to argue with a definition of a word that as everyone can see (Except you and other worshipers of Obama) Is playing out in front of us? As far as I know the US government was specially created to stop a dictator from bringing out his pen and phone to dictate to private citizens exactly how to live and run their businesses. Try reading some it may help you, start with a dictionary.

The Big Dog's back

dummygan, I'm invoking Godwin's law for you.

anthras

Re:"Dream on, Donegan. It's well documented that Obama has used Executive Action FEWER times than the previous 4 Presidents."

I do think that many persons are not alluding to the times he has used executive action however the reasons he is doing it and what he is doing with it.

Executive orders are meant to keep the day to day operations of the government flowing not to get around congress. Someone once told me that the different branches of government are for checks and balances. I do realize that congress has a very low rating however Obama is also sinking fast and the way the people correct that is at the ballot box.

Darwin's choice

Obama/failure....."community organizer"....Hahahaha!!!!!

holysee

racist piggy

bdid.d519

Dear Obama, Please don't "fix" this for us too....

holysee

racist piggy

KnuckleDragger

What...are you like 12?

Commenter

Right?

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