UPDATE: Family called to grand jury

Jacob's girlfriend, Kayleigh Bowers, on witness stand
Nov 19, 2013

Nov. 19, 4 p.m.: Mike Limberios was on the witness stand for about 90 minutes. The grand jury met for about an hour with just jurors and prosecutors in the hearing room without any witnesses. The grand jury is expected to return Wednesday but it's not clear if any other witnesses will be called. 

 Nov. 19, 10:30: Kayleigh Bowers, who was Jacob Limberios' girlfriend and mother of his daughter Ella was called to the grand jury hearing room this morning and testified for about 40 minutes. Shannon Limberios, Jacob's mother, was called to the witness stand immediately after Kayleigh Bowers.  

Nov. 18, 3:30 p.m.: Dr. Cyril Wecht was called to testify early this afternoon. Sandusky County sheriff's Captain Michael Meggitt was recalled to testify. He was inside the grand jury room about 15 minutes. 

Nov. 18, 5 a.m.: Dr. Cyril Wecht is expected as a witness today in front of grand jurors looking into the March 2012 killing of Jacob Limberios. Wecht conducted an autopsy in September 2012 and determined Jake was a homicide victim. Mike and Shannon Limberios, and Kayleigh Bowers, Jacob's girlfriend and mother of his daughter Ella, also are expected to testify this week.

Wecht, a renowned forensic pathologist will follow another high-profile expert as a witness. Dr. Michael Baden testified Friday. 

There's no indication any of the three witnesses inside the home with Jake when he was killed were subpoenaed. Brittany Bowers, Kayleigh's sister, and Will Lewis both appeared as guests on two "Dr. Phil" shows last week. They both failed lie detector tests during the program administered by retired FBI agent and polygraphist Jack Trimarco. 

Lewis, in a Facebook post, said the test on the Dr. Phil program was "a (expletive)-up polygraph test that isn't even admissable in court because they suck so bad." The post is profanity-laced and Lewis appears to be angry at Justice for Jake & Ella supporters, attorney Dan McGookey and the Register. The post includes information about mental anguish Lewis is suffering from as a result of the attention. 

In a message at Facebook that appears to be from Bowers, she said she was not concerned about the grand jury proceedings. "While your are all talking s**t, I'm here in Florida laughing on the beach," the post, directed at Justice for Jake & Ella supporters, states. "Good things happen to good people, guess my karma isn't all that bad." Bowers told Dr. Phil on Friday's program that she felt "set up" by him and show's producers and the polygraph results were fabricated. 

“This is for TV, right?” she asked Dr. Phil. 

“You either know something that you’re not sharing, or you don’t know what your claiming to know,” he told her.

The third witness from inside the home where Jake was killed, Evan Neidler, did not appear on the "Dr. Phil" programs. Through an attorney, he has indicated he would invoke his 5th Amendment right not to testify. 

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Nov. 15, 6 p.m.: Dr. Michael Baden testified for nearly two hours Friday. Baden was asked by the Ohio Attorney General's office to review the autopsy reports, witness statements and other materials. A former New York medical examiner, Baden told Mike and Shannon Limberios after he testified that he would be available to answer any questions they had after the grand jury finished its work. Erie County Sheriff Paul Sigsworth and Erie County chief deputy Jared Oliver also both testified on Friday. It's not clear what information Erie County officials might have about the Limberios investigation. Mike and Shannon Limberios, and Kayliegh Bowers, Jacob's girlfriend and the mother of his daughter, Ella, are likely to testify next week. Check back here for grand jury updates as they happen.  

Nov. 15, 10 a.m.: Dr. Micheal Baden, who reviewed autospy reports and witness statements for Ohio attorney general investigators, was called to the witness stand at about 10 .m.  

Nov. 14, 8:30 a.m.: It appears the grand jury will not be calling any witnesses today. 

Nov. 14, 6 a.m.: Dr. Cyril Wecht and Dr. Michael Baden both could be called as early as Friday to testify. The grand jury hearings into the death of Jacob Limberios are expected to continue into next week. Meanwhile, five witnesses appeared on the "Dr. Phil" program and two of them, Brittany Bowers and Will Lewis agreed to take lie detector tests, the results of which are to be revealed on Friday's segment. 

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Nov. 13, 1:15 p.m.: David Hughes and Scott Hughes testified after being subpoenaed by the grand jury. Their mother, Ann Hughes, also agreed to testify Wednesday. It's not clear what information the witnesses may have. The grand jury remains in session 

Nov. 12, 2: p.m. update: Coroner John Wukie testified for about 40 minutes and was excused by the grand jury. Lucas County deputy coroner Cynthia Beisser is now testifying. Beisser conducted an autopsy in June 2013 and said her findings were "not inconsistent" with Wukie's suicide ruling. 

Nov. 12, 1:18 p.m. update: Sandusky County coroner John Wukie was just called into the grand jury hearing room. 

Nov. 12, 1 p.m. update: Sandusky County coroner John Wukie is at the courthouse and apparently could be called to testify today. Three witnesses each testified, briefly, this morning, but those individuals could not be identified for this update. Speculation was they were part of the state Bureau of Criminal Identification team that assisted the Sandusky County sheriff's office during the initial stages of the investigation. Erie County deputy Jeremy Smith was called to testify after grand jurors returned from a lunch break.

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Nov. 12, 2013 update: Three witnesses gave testimony in front of the grand jury and just about 30 minutes. Other witnesses that could be called this week include Lucas County deputy coroner Cynthia Beisser, former New York medical examiner Dr. Michael Baden and Dr. Cyril Wecht. Check back here for updates. 

Nov. 11: Today is Veterans Day. No grand jury sessions are scheduled. 

Nov. 10, 1:15 p.m. update: Retired Sandusky County sheriff's detective Jim Consolo spent about about an hour on the witines stand, followed by deputy Zack Zender, who testified for about 25 minutes today. Greg Majoy, a retired Erie County sheriff's deputy who now works as a private investigator, was recalled to the witness stand after Zender testified for about 45 minutes. It appears that no other witnesses will be called today. 

Nov. 10, 11:15 p.m. update:  Detective Sean O'Connell testified for a second day for about 90 minutes. When called to testify, O'Connell was easy to find today. On Thursday, the grand jury had some trouble locating him when he was called to testify but then found O'Connell inside county prosecutor Tom Stierwalt's office. Retired sheriff's deputy Jim Consolo was called to testify immediately after O'Connell. O'Connell has in the past made disparaging remarks about Consolo, saying he was not a "team player." Sheriff's deputy Zack Zender also is at the courthouse today and appears to be waiting to be called as a witness.  

Nov. 8, 9:15 a.m update.: Sandusky County sheriff's detective Sean O'Connell was just  recalled as a witness and is inside the hearing room. O'Connnell testified for about two hours on Thursday. Also at the courthouse, retired Sandusky County sheriff's deputy Jim Consolo, who was the person Sandusky County coroner John Wukie wanted to conduct the investigation instead of O'Connell. Consolo voluntarily stepped aside, according to sheriff Kyle Overmyer, but notes exchanged between Consolo and Wukie suggest he felt pressured not to participate in the "coroner's inquest." O'Connell told the Limberios family Consolo was not "a team player," after he replaced Consolo as lead detective in November 2012. 

Nov. 7, 3:15 p.m. update: Greg Majoy, a retired Erie County sheriff's deputy who now works as a private investigator was called to the witness stand at about 3 p.m. Majoy and McConnell together own M&M Investigative Services and were hired by the Limberios family after Sandusky County sheriff Kyle Overmyer shut down the investigation in April 2012, refusing to answer the family's questions. 

Nov. 7, 2:05 p.m. update: A grand jury heard testimony from Sandusky County sheriff's detective Sean O'Connell for about two hours today. O'Connell initially could not be found when he was called to the stand at about 11:15 a.m., but was later located in Sandusky County prosecutor Tom Stierwalt's office. Brent McConnell, a former Huron Police Department employee who works as a private investigator was called to testify at about 2 p.m. (Note: the witnesses name was incorrect in this post earlier.)

Nov. 7, 12:15 p.m. update A Sandusky County grand jury is in its third day of proceedings, with Sandusky County sheriff's detectives on the witness stand today for the last hour.

Sheriff's captain Sean O'Connell was called in at about 11:15 a.m. today. He took over the investigation one year ago today, after county coroner John Wukie launched a coroner's inquest when questions about the competency of the sheriff's investigation persisted. O'Connell initially told the Limberios family he believed Jake was shot by one of the witnesses in the home, but later concurred with the findings of earlier investigations that Jacob Limberios shot himself on March 2, 2012.

Wukie wanted Sandusky County sheriff's detective Jim Consolo to conduct the coroner's inquest, but sheriff Kyle Overmyer said Consolo chose not to be involved. Notes between Consolo and Wukie suggest Consolo felt pressured to step aside.

Brady Gasser, a friend of Jacob Limberios and a founder of the Justice for Jake & Ella Facebook page testified earlier on Thursday for about an hour. Gasser was talking with Jacob on the phone just minutes before Jacob was killed and he has taken strong issue with how Sandusky County deputies and Wukie handled the multiple investigations that occurred.   

Nov. 4, 3:15 p.m. update: Sandusky County sheriff Kyle Overmyer just called into grand jury.  Overmyer testified for about 15 minutes. 

Nov. 4, 2 p.m. update: A grand jury that convened this morning is interviewing one of the deputies — Mario Cavillo — who was first to arrive March 2, 2012, the night Jacob Limberios was killed. 

"He's been in there for about an hour," said Christine Wiedle, a Limberios family friend and a founder of the Justice for Jake & Ella Facebook page. 

Wiedle, who is stationed at the Sandusky County Courthouse, said Sandusky County sheriff Kyle Overmyer arrived at about 1:30 p.m. and appears to be getting ready to be called as a witness. Wiedle said several other deputies also are at the courthouse and appear to be waiting to testify. 

Cavillo, deputy Robert Arp and sheriff's captain Michael Meggitt arrived first at the York Township home after a frantic 911 call.  

Nov 4, 6 a.m. original post:

A grand jury is set to convene today to review the Ohio Attorney General's investigation into the death of Jacob Limberios on March 2, 2012. 

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The grand jury proceedings, which could last several weeks, are a far cry from the original finding in April 2012 by Sandusky County sheriff Kyle Overmyer's office. The final report written by deputies contained just 59 words: 

"Dispatch advised of a shooting that occurred at the above location involving a male subject. Upon arrival, scene was secured and EMS was cleared to enter residence. County coroner was contacted. After interviewing witnesses and investigation, deceased died from a self inflicted gunshot wound and from witness statements deceased may not have realized that the firearm was still loaded."

More than 20 months after he was killed, there's been speculation that up to 100 witnesses could be called, including famed forensic pathologists Dr. Cyril Wecht and Dr. Michael Baden.

Brittany Bowers, Will Lewis and Evan Neidler also likely were subpoenaed. They were inside the York Township home when Jake was killed. 

Bowers and Lewis also appeared as guests on the "Dr. Phil" program for segments of the talk show about the Limberios story scheduled to air Nov. 14-15. Check back here for updates on air dates. The Register will provide a link to the programs when they become available. 

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Can a Dr Phil show polygraph prove anything? Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas noted in his majority opinion in the 1998 case U.S. v. Scheffer, "there is simply no consensus that polygraph evidence is reliable."
A day after killing Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman passed a polygraph test. Was Zimmermans polygraph evidence reliable? Are any of the numerous polygraphs test given worldwide reliable? Depends on which experts you ask.
You may not know this but the father of the modern polygraph was Dr. William Marston who is known for creating the comic-book character Wonder Woman.


It is my understanding that a polygraph test can be considered as evidence in a grand jury but is not admissible in a real criminal trial.

Quite frankly, the polygraph test conducted on the Dr. Phil program is of minimal importance. Other scientific evidence and testimony that I can't speak to right now is more than enough to indict.

The polygraph test that is important is the one conducted by Steve Stechulte of the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation; not because of the results, but because of the manner in which it was conducted. From Jack Trimarco, to numerous other former F.B.I. polygraphists, that first polygraph exam was purposefully misconducted, and it should be questions why.

Simple Enough II

Can you supply a reason or reasons why the sheriff, the sheriff department, the coroner & the prosecutors office would intentionally produce a flawed investigation? What would there to be gained by it? What would make one Or all three of the that were there so important to cover up a shooting?


A dishonest investigation could cover the mistakes and laziness from the initial "investigation". The witnesses may have covered up an accidental shooting because they were frightened that the truth would necessitate some rate of punishment. Both parties likely had mutual benefits. The more coddling by law enforcement, the longer it's easier for them to keep their lie.....one can see how that could rapidly snowball into what is happening now.


There are things that the Sheriff's department did that night that were damning to say the least. If they could somehow "prove" that they at least got the important part right (Jake shot himself), they come out looking way better than if their botched crime scene and destroyed evidence actually caused them to get the cause of death wrong.

Simple Enough II

Can you supply a reason or reasons why the sheriff, the sheriff department, the coroner & the prosecutors office would intentionally produce a flawed investigation? What would there to be gained by it? What would make one Or all three of the that were there so important to cover up a shooting?


Yet, Zimmerman was just arrested on assault and other various charges that I don't care to pay attention to. Yes, polygraph tests can be unreliable, especially in situations where the answers given were borderline deceptive, but we're talking about two healthy young adults who failed with an 8. Two people, and 8's across the board? Shouldn't that set off an alarm in your head? Not to mention the way Brittany acted after learning the results. Why wasn't the other kid at the scene on Dr. Phil? Time will have to tell, huh?

Stop It

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And the results will be the same no answers as before. The evidence was destroyed and the investigation flawed. No way to come up with a real answer so no change. A big waste of taxpayers money. Parents I am sorry for your loss and the fact that you have no closure for this. The best thing you can do is remember this when you vote for your next sheriff.


glad your assumptions show you haven't been reading these articles... there is clear forensic evidence he couldnt have pulled the trigger, which means by process of elimination that one of the other 3 did..... this is just to figure out what type of charges these kids are going to face for lying and hopefully what charges a few deputies and Sandusky County cronies get for conspiring to cover up a homicide


2 corners who come up with same results 1 paid medical expert comes up with different theory. There isnt clear forensic evidence because either it wasn't properly obtained or destroyed. Unless they get one of the 3 people to turn on the others nothing will come of this.


Agreed, bigdad.


Only 2 coroners have examined Jake's body. One a hand picked sandusky county crony(Beisser), and one a world renowned pathologist(Dr. Cyril Wecht).... you do the math. Sandusky county botched this investigation from top to bottom and front to back. Stop defending the idiots that are the reason we are still talking about this right now, and use some damn common sense, unless you dont have any. JUSTICE FOR JAKE!!!!!!!!!!!


You really want to talk about idiocy? There was absolutely no common sense in the steps leading up to the insuing investigation. There was absolutely no need to take a loaded firearm to someone else's house in the wee hours of the night. And most definitely no need to do it while drinking. Mistakes were made all the way around, not just by SCSO. Like it or not, that's reality!

Simple Enough II

It starts with the guy who brought the handgun there, yeah, I know he was looking at selling it as the story goes.


4 people have examined Jake. 2 say homicide, 1 says not inconsistent to wukie, and we find out the last one in court.–Codey


Wukie never examined the body, he literally phoned it in!! only 2 autopsies have been done.... what stories are you reading. By medical examination i mean an autopsy and only 2 have been performed.


I don't have to read the stories.. I am one of Jakes best friends and have along with Brady, Christine, and others run the j4j page. I've been there since day one.


But technically 2 have physically looked at his body... Other two were tissue samples.. So if that's what you meant I apologize


no apologies needed, and no disrespect meant on my part either.



Stop It

"The evidence was destroyed and the investigation flawed."

If that is so, someone needs to be held accountable.


In a perfect world you are correct. But in this world cops mess up investigations all the time and other than another piece of paper in their file nothing rarely comes of it.


Does any know or remember was there a blood alcohol on everyone?



dont blame me

I wonder how many lies he told this time. Then again we'll probably never know because they'll keep everything nice and sealed, again.


I hope Overmeyer was asked why he was laughing/joking over Jake's body onside the house that night. I saw him doing it through the picture window when I arrived at the scene. Don't believe me? Will Lewis (one of three witnesses and possible shooter) told O'Connel on the record last November that he saw/heard the same thing.

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