Henry says 'one or more' may be responsible for Jake's death

Sandusky County special prosecutor breaks silence on cause; threatens to ask federal authorities to go to Pennsylvania to take last tissue sample from Wecht
Register
May 9, 2013

 

Special prosecutor Dean Henry demanded the Limberios family surrender a tissue sample from an autopsy of Jacob Limberios by Dr. Cyril Wecht in September.

"I am demanding the immediate delivery of the intact tissue samples taken from Jacob Limberios’ corpse to Detective Sean O’Connell of the Sandusky County Sheriff’s Office," Henry wrote in an email earlier today to family attorney Dan McGookey. 

The family has already provided one tissue sample to the county and offered to make the last sample available to deputy Lucas County coroner Cynthia Beisser to examine, but Henry is demanding it be surrendered to county officials. 

"Your actions are inducing Dr. Wecht, the expert witness retained by you and/or your clients, to conceal evidence material to this investigation. ... Your actions are ultimately aiding one or more persons who may be responsible for Jacob Limberios’ death by causing delay in the investigation and possible prosecution of those persons," Dean wrote. 

Click here to read the emails. 

McGookey said previously Wecht had cautioned that the last sample should not be turned over to the country, and McGookey cited the destruction of evidence by county officials previously in the investigation and their refusal to inform the family of the status of the tissue sample that was already provided. 

Dean said he would file a complaint with the Pennsylvania State Board of Medicine and the Disciplinary Board of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania if McGookey did not comply with his demand.

He also seems to suggested that McGookey, Mike and Shannon Limberios and Wecht all could face penalties if they did not comply.

"All of you should give serious consideration to consulting experienced criminal counsel before making any further decisions on how to proceed," Dean wrote. 

McGookey fired off an email to Beisser asking her to state whether Dean's position on the autopsy mirrors hers. 

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Comments

MiddleRight

Piss on you Dean. The county had their chance, twice. Maybe if you would cooperate with the family and force some of those Barney's, including the Coroner to resign, then you can start demaning things.

Sharin' Johnson

Maybe McGookey get arrested!

voice of fremont

Why wouldnt the family work with Mr. Henry. This will answer all their questions and perhaps gives Justice for Jake.

mrite

Agreed! Finally, Mr Henry indicates that there may be something more to this and the people still whine about it.

sandtown born a...

Both of you ask your beloved Dean what happened to the sample already provided? Why now all the threats of prosecution? What about the miss steps by SC officials up to this point? The last remaining sample will vanish if turned over. What a travesty of our criminal justice system. And the hits keep coming

mrite

Sandtown, your life must be miserable, always focusing on the PAST. If my mom would have won the lottery, if I went to school to be a doctor or a lawyer. If I would have done this or that my life would be better. No way to live.

Yes, mistakes were made in the past. They are working on correcting them. At least let them move on.

WiseManOnceSaid

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sandtown born a...

Well said

mrite

That is an intelligent comeback. Just goes to show your ignorance.

WiseManOnceSaid

Please. You can defend the people who have screwed up all you want. You make logical fallacy after fallacy in every argument you try to pose. You don't have a leg to stand on. You know someone involved and are trying to personally defend them. Had they done their job this would not have been an issue. You claim everyone here is just bashing law enforcement. We are bashing the things they did wrong and how they handled them. You can say "people make mistakes" and it means nothing. When I make a mistake I try to fix it. I do not push it under a rug and attempt to abuse my power of office to make sure me and my buddies do not get in trouble. We want what is right. You are the one here with a motive.

mrite

You seriously have a comprehension problem! I have never said that the officials that are handling this are right. If you want me to break down I will just let me know.

I am just saying yes, there have been mistakes made which we all can agree on. I can also say that Mr Henry has pursued this investigation further and is trying to come to a resolution. Once his findings are made known then you can complain all you want.

Part of the investigation process is keeping some information secret. If he laid his cards out now then those that may be criminally involved may be able to take elusive action. Once Henry has come up with the right info he will present it to the grand jury. Then they will decide where to go from here.

What if, after presenting info to the grand jury, they decide there is not enough evidence to proceed?? The people making this decision could be your brother, mother, sister, father etc. What action will you then take?

Krissy3

They have offered to make the tissue sample available to Dr. Besser. They just want someone there representing them to ensure the remaining piece if evidence isn't destroyed like all of the others have been. If they are offering to make it available to the person who needs to examine it, they are not withholding evidence. Obviously you are the one with a comprehension problem.

If mr. Henry wants to file against Wecht with the board, perhaps it's time for the community to start filing complaints with the bar on Henry. After all, he is representing the taxpayers in Sandusky county...

Krissy3

Mrite and voice of Sandusky are clearly the same person. There can't possibly be two people that ignorant.

mrite

Because I believe that one should wait until Mr Henry has revealed the results of his investigation you think I am ignorant?

Once again and read this slowly, Krissy, so you can comprehend better. As stated before I believe that errors have occurred. I believe that this is very tragic. I believe that, if proven, any and all individuals who have committed a crime should be charged. Is that simple enough for you?

Krissy3

Mr. Henry stated in February this investigation was over. Mr. Henry stated in court earlier this month that Jake had indeed shot himself. Detective O'Connell said that these tissue samples were not necessary to this case in February. So, now all the sudden we should believe there has been some major change?

This case really isn't as complicated as Henry is making it out to be. if the gun was fired at over 24 inches away, he didn't shoot himself. Its common sense but just to clear up any misconceptions by people who just like to troll the comment sections and allude that he is, after all this time, trying to right the wrongs done in this case (by bullying everyone involved), The forensic video made regarding this case was done as a case study for a graduate school program. The case study was done by 2 active police officers and 2 other master degree students in forensics. The person who oversaw and approved this study is a retired police officer as well. This study was based on the forensic evidence on the case alone, no names were given in the study as to not prejudice the study participants. In 6 weeks it took them to find what Sandusky County hasn't been able to in 14 months.

happyfeet64

Thank you for stating the facts and facts only! I am as equally appalled and disgusted as everyone else! The forensics speak for themselves and the ONLY reason SC is trying to "correct" their past mistakes is because they KNOW how badly they screwed up and how politics is playing into this! The ONLY reason I see that they're becoming so aggressive in their investigation now is because of political pressure from the state! Someone must've received a phone call in the middle of the night! I'm not stupid!

Krissy3

mrite ignores the forensic evidence because it's too complicated for that level of comprehension. After all, he doesn't even understand the conflict of interest of Henry finding that Jacob's death was a homicide in the criminal case in which he plays the special prosecutor essentially means his client Wukie will lose the civil case the family has against him. It's much easier to argue about moot points and ignore the facts.

sandtown born a...

I seriously think the smell of cooking ketchup has made him forget right from wrong

sandtown born a...

My life is wonderful probably better than yours. I don't live in the past, I also dont forget the past or past screw ups, they expect everyone to roll over now. This would not even be a issue if the Register and others didnt continue to push, it would have been swept under the rug like usual.

sandtown born a...

Lets not forget the past so we don't screw up and repeat it. Heres the problem your beloved SC officials keep forgetting the past and keep repeating it one corrupt/incompetent investigation after another. I think mrite is a SC official in citizens clothing

mrite

Sandtown, like I said yesterday the corruption only continues because the voters of SC let it! Do something about it. If you live in SC, which I don't, then run for the office they hold. If you don't run for office then shut your yap about it.

Like I also said yesterday, if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem!!

sandtown born a...

Your part of the problem then

candleburner

I couldn't agree more sandtown!! Mrite is more of a problem almost than Sandusky Co is!!!!!

mrite

As stated earlier I don't live there so I can't control who is elected. You?

Krissy3

How many times do we need to explain to you that he is not an elected official?

mrite

Who? The Commissioners? Wukie? County Prosecutor? Every body knows that Mr Henry is not an elected official. He was, however, appointed by elected officials. I am not as stupid as you sound. This has been sorted out already. Please move on.

Krissy3

The county prosecutor isn't involved in this case because of a conflict of interest obviously. One of the judges who put Henry on the case has recused herself from this case. I do believe most will agree that you are the one who sounds stupid.
Although I do agree that taxpayers should remember Wukie at election time.

mrite

Hmmm, I really need to copy what I put on here. I thought I was being a good boy and not attacking anyone or calling them names. Could someone from the SR please e-mail me this message or do tell what word I had in here that was offensive.

Krissy3

Maybe you should. In every post you have put on here you have criticized someone for not agreeing with you. You have said someone's life must be miserable, someone has comprehension problems, told someone to shut their yap, said I sound stupid, and called people ignorant. Is that your idea of not attacking people?

RNR

If I were the family I wouldn't trust any of them either! Didn't they have a tissue sample and it was destroyed? Why would they give the only one left that proves Jacob did not shoot himself?......... so sandusky county can destroy that also?

Ithink

Why wouldn't Henry comply with the family's wishes to begin with? If Henry indicts someone for manslaughter, then the tissue sample would have to be turned over, as you cannot keep evidence from either side of the courtroom. I doubt a small piece of tissue will make or break this case. Move forward Henry. I wouldn't give him the time of day for fear of him disposing of it 'accidently'. They (SC) have proved they have been less than honest so far, so let him move forward without this. If it warrants anything important, then he can 'borrow' the tissue, as long as a representative from Jake's legal team is present.

Detrain

If they want the sample the lucas county can drive to pa to do test if its thats important

Foz426

agreed, Detrain! They have half of the samples taken. I wouldn't trust them not to lose, destroy or otherwise compromise the last bits of remaining evidence. If Dean Henry is willing to "drive to PA to get the other half of the sample," then he should just take the Assistant Coroner of Lucas County WITH him and let her look at said tissue samples THERE. Good for Wecht, McGookey, and the family for refusing! Justice for JAKE!

Foz426

double post

candleburner

Well in a way I'm glad that Sandusky County finally found that Jake didn't do this to himself but they HAD a clean sample that Dr. Wecht gave them back in September when the first autopsy was done - prior to and separate from Dr. Wecht's autopsy so his results would not have been included in their report - but Sandusky County seems to keep forgetting that and they conveniently want everyone else to forget that fact too so whatever they did with that sample is their problem. Now they want Dr. Wecht's sample and they want to play schoolyard bully to get it.

Justme...

Sandusky County did not find that he didn't this to himself. They are saying its a possibility. BIG difference. What a mess. The State needs to step in because Sandusky County won't want to find anything that shows they dropped the ball. Too much is at stake.

ilkyp

His incompetence has been seen over and over. Now he wants to threaten the family because it's "their fault" he screwed up and now has to eat his words. Dean, if you're reading this... the family isn't the problem. Wecht isn't the problem. YOU and the SCSO are the problem. Clean up your mess and stop insinuating charges against the family.

Hoss McGee

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WiseManOnceSaid

Dean Henry is just doing his best to make sure the County officials get in no trouble from this. He does not care about the witnesses, and everyone knows that one of them did it. He has proceeded slowly in the investigation to make sure when it is all said and done the county is not culpable for all their screw ups because he took the needed steps to cover them up. It's very sad for the family that he is basically more worried about the county officials than justice but that is how these things tend to work out. My biggest fear is that they will charge the witnesses and the officials will come out clean on this.

sandtown born a...

I agree the Ohio Attorney General needs to head a investigation into the terrible handling of this case. Do Not let some local department investigate, we all can guess those findings

jmac08

i think the witnesses AND the officials need to be charged at this point the witness's had their chance 14 months ago to tell the truth and guess what they didnt 14 months later sticking to thier story they deserve to sit now its gone on long enough

sandtown born a...

Charge all of the witnesses with obstruction including Henry and other SC officials

Kottage Kat

Sounds like Dean's statements could be perceived as threats. If Mike and Shannon feel threatened they and their attorney should address that for their safety.

Kottage Kat

Dean forgot to remember that E-mail prints and he is doing himself no favors with threats and innuendoes

Kottage Kat

Just wondered if the AG has all the articles from the press? With that information should be hustling right up here to help, Election commeth.

Darkhorse

This Henry guy is a piece of work. He is demanding samples be turned over to him after the family paid to do their own investigation, one that was botched in the first place by the Sheriff's office. Turning over the samples so they can be botched again leaves the family vulnerable as to the true evidence they collected. If the Sherifff's office would have done the job correctly, it could have had its own samples. Now the family is wondering if they turn over the samples, will they be compromising what is left of the true evidence so the sheriff can even cover up more. Does the family look like they are stupid or what?

Krissy3

I hope Dr. Wecht took pictures of the gunshot wound before he removed the tissue. By watching the forensic video on the case the characteristics of a wound are very visibly different depending on the range of fire.

Rich Close

Seems the Register was right on their report.

Its obvious that those who messed up with this investigation should be accountable with a loss of a job or a recall election.
There is NO EXCUSE that those in power refused to do their job in a professional manor, and as I see it charges should possibly be filed by DeWine.
What really angers me is how this proud arrogant little man won't admit that things were done wrong and unprofessionally but will attack and threaten the very family that asked him to do his job as he is expected to do!

I hate to admit it, but the Register took a LOT of heat with their reporting and I'm the first to admit I had doubts and was wrong. It would be nice if the Register would continue their reporting and interview DeWine and the Governor and ask them what their plans are concerning those who swept this under the table, do they make excuses for this form of behavior and lack of professionalism?

Krissy3

I agree. The family and dr. Wecht have made multiple suggestions as to how they can let Dr. Beisser examine the tissue sample without handing it over completely to Sandusky County officials, yet Henry declines all of them because he wants it done on HIS terms. His behavior is like that of a child stomping his feet when he doesn't get his way and it is completely unprofessional.
The threat of reporting Wecht to the medical board when he is the only one who has done a competent job in this investigation is laughable. Mr. Henry forgets that his representation of Wukie civilly at the same time as he is prosecuting a criminal case regarding this death is a conflict of interest violating the rules of the ABA.

Krissy3

Double post

sandtown born a...

Now if we listen to mrite it don't matter how bad they screwed up in the past as long as they do it correct now. Destroy evidence or loose it same end result it is gone, no investigating or just plain incompetence. This is why I will now refer to him as mwrong .

Krissy3

Oh but sandtown, all of that happened in the past so it doesn't matter! (Enter Sarcasm) mwrong sounds about right.

mrite

So, if I understand you two, once a person makes a mistake they can not recover themselves and try to right it? Wow, this whole world, including yourselves, would be in trouble as we have all made mistakes in our lives which we have tried to correct.

Krissy3

That's funny I can't seem to recall a time in which I bullied a family who is reburying their son for the third time. I also can't recall a time that I threatened to press charges against someone because they didnt do something the way I wanted them to, especially when they are willing to compromise. He is not correcting any mistakes by continuing to victimize the family.

Rich Close

THIS LITTLE MAN IS UPSET BECAUSE HE SCREWED UP HIS POLITICAL CAREER, he isn't trying to 'make things right" Please don't distort our posts. If there was evidence that he was trying to make things right there would have been a meeting called with apologies, instead he threatens the family!

I honestly don't know why you think he's trying to make it 'right'; in my opinion of what the Register has printed I see an angry brat that was caught not doing his chores and he's now doing it with a grudge.

I personally have NO respect for the authorities who have handeled this.

AND, what a terrible society we would have if everyone was excused for their past behavior and never held accountable for their actions. These officials basically thumbed their noses AT JUSTICE, so therefor they not only insulted the family but the entire county who pays them to PROTECT AND SERVE. Instead they swept the facts under the rug and a possible murder would NEVER had come to light if the family and the press didn't bring it forward to the public's eye.

Ps, Mrite, your wrote:
"So, if I understand you two, once a person makes a mistake they can not recover themselves and try to right it"
WHERE DID HE EVER ADMIT TO MAKING A MISTAKE? You assume too much. Once again, he's like a spoiled brat who got caught sneaking out to party when there was work to do. Why would voters in that county put up with such an arrogant and egotistical child who bullies those who turn them in for doing something wrong?

The ONLY way I would say he was trying to make things right is to publicly apologize.

Krissy3

If he or Sandusky County's Sheriff's Department had apologized to the family for the mistakes that they undisputably made, maybe they would have more credibility. Even O'Connell makes excuses for the department in his original interview with the family. His excuse is that "road cops" responded to the scene and didn't know what to do. Add to that the fact that Sandusky County refuses to let the Ohio A.G. step in to do an independent investigation. Why not if there is nothing to hide?
This family has been treated like garbage for 14 months simply for trying to find out the truth about their sons death. Not once has anyone from the County apologized or empathized with this family. Now he is threatening to prosecute them for not doing things on his terms. Ask yourself why he would insist on Wecht turning over the tissue sample to O'Connell. The family has offered to give them another half of the sample but he calls this tampering with evidence, although they already have the other half. The family has offered to have Dr. Wecht present while Dr. Beisser examines the tissue sample, but Henry will not hear of this either. The family has been more than willing to come to a compromise for Dr. Beisser to examine this tissue sample but it's his way or no way. His solutions in this case have been nothing but bullying, threatening, victimizing, and not commenting.
The department has lied to this family repeatedly, failed to preserve evidence, forced them to pay for their own autopsy, and failed to let an independent investigation be done.
Add to that the fact that Henry has something to lose by acknowledging that this was a homicide because he is representing Wukie in a civil case. He has a direct conflict of interest in this case and it is directly impacting the outcome of a criminal investigation, yet mrite thinks that it is okay. The whole point of a special prosecutor being brought in on this case was for unbiased representation.
ABA rule of professional conduct 1.7a states that an attorney must consider possible conflicts of interest when taking on a client. It is ironic that Henry calls everyone else unprofessional, but refuses to acknowledge his own violations. Reflecting much Henry?

Detrain

Well said rich and krissy.

mamaC

Dean, It is pretty SAD YOU make threats to the family as they are putting their son to rest for a THIRD TIME!!!! Why don't you arrest Shannon on Mothers Day and show everyone what your TRUE Character is! #JusticeforJake

mrite

Any news on the Jimmy Hoffa case?

gene44870

Unbelieviable . Are you telling me that you agree that this was murder after all this time?

GOOD LUCK IN CONVICTING THE PARTIES RESPONSABLE

I know if I were sitting on this jury I would have to wander if the ones on trial are guilty or escape goats for Sandusky County .

Iam not saying that this is murder , the only thing that I can say is that there is more to it then meets the eye and because of the way it was investigated from the start.
And as Henry is tring to force the doctor to give sandusky county the only possiable evidence to make this a muder leads me to believe Henry is tring to cover up . I mean comoen They were all ready givin a piece of the sample taken , why cant he just man up and admit that this could be a murder and not what they ruled it to be back in march of last year .
Why didnt Sandusky County due what needed to be done to reafirm what they stated when they said he killed himself either by suicide or accident ?
You know when it comes right down to it , I have to ask is he going to be the one that i going to be tring this case if and when it comes to that?
As far as I can see he shouldnt be , he should be called as a witness and if thats the case he can not try it . and like I said , IF IT COMES TO THAT
Its a matter of conflict of intrest not to mention it wouldnt make sense .

thetruthfairy

What once appeared to be a happy and vibrant family has turned into a family of sadness and despair. I can't imagine losing my child and then getting treated the way that Mike and Shannon Limberios have from incompetent officials and an arrogant lawyer. Let me guess Dr. Wukie, that nice salary attached to you County Coroner's title doesn't justify actually leaving your house to perform your duties, right? Just to remind you, there are many citizens in our county who make a whole lot less than you do in your very part-time position and have no problem performing their duties and earning an honest day's wages. Maybe Mr. Henry, you should think about turning your prized Dr. Wukie into the State Medical Board for his injustices? How lazy, careless and comfortable he obviously has gotten in his role. And to top it off, our Sheriff didn't care or question Mr. Wukies ethical standards when he took the order over the phone??? Two peas in a pod. If those are the standards of our county I want out! Mr. Wukie and Overmyer, have you even considered how you would feel if this were your child? Of course not. Oh and Mr. Overmyer rumor has is that you are so confident in how well you are managing the county that you can now afford to work 2-3 days outside of those duties as a traveling salesman? I bet not many citizens know this??? We are not as naïve as you obviously believe. What audacity you have to have a part-time job when you are failing at your full-time job???? Who is suffering because Mr. Overmyer obviously can't get past his big ego and admit he stinks at being sheriff? The Limberios family, the Jones Family and citizens of SC. I live in Sandusky County and am appalled that these people who are getting paid to enforce the law are breaking it at every turn. If I am right, Mr. Overmyer is a former detective? He didn't feel the need to get his detectives out or even BCI involved that night? mrite, before you go on your rant about "doing something about it or running for office" may I remind you that Mr. Overmyer has never been truly "elected". When the former Sheriff died Mr. Overmyer was appointed to his position by the Republican Committee, which by the way I am changing parties and becoming a democrat. We as county citizens didn't vote him in. Mr. Overmyer and Mr. Wukie both ran unopposed this last time so not much you can do about them winning their positions. Just so you know I didn't even give them a courtesy vote for ----s and giggles. I am sure that this time around the citizens of our county will speak loud and clear to both Mr. Overmyer and Mr. Wukie and let them know that their services are not wanted. Keep your part-time sales job you are going to need it! Or maybe grow corn or raise chickens, isn't that what you spent your first term concentrating on??? Lord knows we citizens had to read about it once a month in the paper.
Mike and Shannon Limberios, I sincerely apologize to you and all the people who loved your son! There is no reason to justify what you have been put through. These officials are a very small group that certainly don't represent the feelings and ideals of the citizens of Sandusky County. Our county will make things right come next election and put the right most ethical professionals in place. I know in talking to other locals I am not alone in my embarrassment of our officials! Their blatant disregard for a human life, for your son's life is gross and inhumane. Please know our county of citizens do care and want justice to be served in the name of your son, Jake Limberios. God bless you all....

FromMichigan

It would be very interesting to see what would happen if Mr. Henry decided to pursue charges against Dr. Wecht and the family; there is a great chance it would fast-track this case to the national news. Pennsylvania media will pick it up for sure. Probably the celebrity-related media (since Dr. Wecht is a celebrity and likely has a publicist) and the rest would shortly follow. I’ve been following this for a while and I’m amazed (but not surprised) at the lack of ethics and professionalism the Sandusky County officials seem to possess.

Krissy3

Good point. Dr. Wecht definitely is a celebrity. I'm surprised the national news hasn't picked up the case yet but that would definitely do it!

Sitting In The ...

I would have the Fed's take over this investigation because obviously these geniuses cant do it.

KURTje

Sure was mrite. On his deathbed Santos Traficante stated it was through his orders that Jimmie meet his demise. Stay on topic. Your attitude is truly showing.

Detrain

Well said thetruthfairy. I have heard the same thing from my friends in sandusky county. Maybe Dr Wecht needs to get media on this since he might have some influence.

FromMichigan

Is the Ohio State Bar investigating Mr. Henry on the conflict of interest complaint?

smart_girl900

Today is Mother's Day. A day to redeem yourselves, Dean Henry and Sandusky County officials. Admit that you are insensitive and incompetent and stop the corruption. Show some respect to Mrs. Limberious. She deserves respect and justice for her son. As you spend time with your Mothers today, reflect on the lessons that they've taught you and stand up and do the right thing. Or did they teach you to be evil and corrupt? Really, how can you look your own mother in the face after all of this evil corruption. Your actions bring only shame to a mother, not pride.

smart_girl900

Today is Mother's Day. A day to redeem yourselves, Dean Henry and Sandusky County officials. Admit that you are insensitive and incompetent and stop the corruption. Show some respect to Mrs. Limberious. She deserves respect and justice for her son. As you spend time with your Mothers today, reflect on the lessons that they've taught you and stand up and do the right thing. Or did they teach you to be evil and corrupt? Really, how can you look your own mother in the face after all of this evil corruption. Your actions bring only shame to a mother, not pride.

SanduskyCountyR...

hmm

DaisyC30

Are the witness's being questioned over and over? Why isn't some of the focus on them? And how do those young kids sleep at night? Knowing the truth and watching the poor family go through all of this! "The truth will set you free"!