Limberios may be exhumed again

Almost a year after a Castalia man’s death, authorities plan to dig up his body. Again.
Emil Whitis
Jan 26, 2013

 

“The only thing we don’t have right now is a date,” Sandusky County special prosecutor Dean Henry said. “It’ll be sometime in the next few weeks.”

Jacob Limberios’ parents, Mike and Shannon Limberios, signed off on the plan, Henry said.

But Henry’s in for a surprise.

Late Thursday night Mike told the Register he’s withdrawing his support, at least temporarily, for a second autopsy.

“We were never for this,” he said. “I want all these other tests done before they dig up my son again — before they cut him up again.”

Mike wants DNA results from the handle of the gun that fired the fatal bullet. He wants results from ballistics tests. In short, he wants investigators to complete every other possible test before they stick a shovel in Jacob’s grave again.

After fighting with Sandusky County officials for almost a year, Mike said he’s fresh out of faith.

Jacob, 19, died from a single gunshot wound to the head at about 9:30 p.m. March 2. Sandusky County deputies rushed to a house in the 100 block of County Road 294 where they found his body lying on the living room floor.

Also inside the house were three witnesses and a .357 magnum pistol. All three told deputies Jacob shot himself.

Before midnight, Sandusky County coroner John Wukie ruled it a suicide. On his coroner’s report, under cause of death, Wukie wrote: “suicide … deceased shot self in
head, may not have realized gun was loaded.”

Renowned forensic pathologist Dr. Cyril Wecht later called Wukie’s ruling an “oxymoron” — a contradiction in terms. It couldn’t be a suicide if Jacob didn’t mean to kill himself, Wecht said.

Regardless, Sandusky County deputies released Jacob’s body to a funeral home, where it was embalmed the day after the shooting.

For months, the Limberios family fought to get authorities to examine Jacob’s body.

In August they gave up and paid to have the body exhumed and sent to Pittsburgh for an autopsy. There, Wecht did a full autopsy, although his findings were inconclusive.

However, the examination did show the bullet entered Jacob’s head at a downward angle from behind the left ear. Somehow, the bullet ended up in the ceiling of the home.

Although it was an awkward angle, it’s still possible Jacob shot himself, said private investigator Greg Majoy, hired by the Limberios family.  

The case is still an open investigation at the Sandusky County Sheriff’s Office.

Thursday afternoon, Henry said he’s still trying to pin down an exhumation date, although he may need cooperation from the Limberios family, the Lucas County coroner and

Margaretta Township officials, given that Jacob’s body is buried at a cemetery in the township.  

Henry is serving in the case as a specially appointed attorney for Wukie.

“I hope we can get to the bottom of this,” Henry said.
 

Watch a special edition of Between the Lines from Dec. 13 with the Limberios family HERE.

 

Comments

huronres1

The worst thing any family member could do is talk to the Sindumpsky Rag. They will butcher up statements big time!

happycamper01

I bet if you asked their son he would just want them to move on so he can be left to rest in peace. I could be wrong though. Maybe there is truth to be found and he can't rest until the the truth comes out. I just think it is sad that he keeps being exhumed. He should be able to rest in eternal peace.

Just Saying

"Dig up his body" - Seriously, Sandusky Register has no consideration for this poor family. I would think a better choice of words could have been used.

YAWWNN

My God, let this poor kid rest in peace. All this so the family can cash in on the insurance policy and try to gather enough dirt so some scumbag lawyer can make a buck. I know this will likely be bashed but I'm positive I'm not the only one thinking it. After all, the family let it slip in the very first interview with them, when they said, "his insurance policy won't pay because of the listed cause of death."

Kayleigh.Bowers

Just an FYI I am the mother of "this kid's" daughter another FYI he had a name (Jacob Limberios.) we are not doing this for money, we simply want the truth if what happened that night because SANDUSKY COUNTY FAILED TO DO THEIR JOBS. & no JACOB did not commit suicide so how would you guys feel if this was your family member and you didn't know who was holding the gun at the time of discharge? How would you feel if you were in my shoes and couldn't explain to your daughter why daddy isn't here?
Before you guys get on here and post negative comments like we are only doing this for money, think again because we aren't. Behind these register articles is a distraught family simply seeking the truth because corrupt county officials failed to conduct an investigation and they are trying to cover it up since they have already failed miserably.
And if you guys commenting were in our position wouldn't you want answers too? 11 months is too long to wait if you ask me. 3 witnesses all inconsistent statements and scientific evidence. Re read articles and if you have any other questions you can contact me specifically since this is supposed to be an open investigation i feel it should be shared with the public . 4196561189.

Kayleigh.Bowers

Oh and scumbag lawyer? Dan mcgookey has stood by our side fighting for answers. The last thing he would do was try to make "a buck" off of this. I don't know why everyone is concerned about money. As far as I'm concerned you people should be more worried about the officials who are there to protect you and your family. I'm sure you wouldn't want road cops controlling a crime scene. So for a second forget about money and respect Dan mcgookey for never leaving our side, for helping us fight for the truth. Is the truth too much to fight for?

Perkins2060

I wouldn't post your phone number on here. There are a lot of whackos on here. Good luck with this situation. I hope it all works out for you.

bmgasser

Yawwnn, do you think that you or anyone else would like Jake to rest in peace more so than his girlfriend, parents, or any other family member or friend? All of this so the family can get a payday huh? All of Jake's insurance policy money is going to his daughter, which would not even be enough to cover the cost of his funeral. You think it's wrong to fight for that insurance money to help that little girl who has to grow up without her dad? That isn't even the main issue: it's finding out the truth. We don't have to try to gather dirt, the lies, the coverups, the corruption, and the SCIENCE is in your face! I appreciate the majority of Emil's contributions, but Dr. Wecht's findings were NOT inconclusive; I can't say if he was aware of this or not. The father is on the verge of making public every single paper, audio, and visual document in regards to this case on the Justice for Jake Facebook page. There are spine chilling details that were discovered last night that their lawyer, investigator, or the special prosecutor have even been exposed to yet. The death certificate is a piss poor lie. If you haven't noticed Jake would never have been exhumed in the first place if it weren't for the misconduct of Sandusky County officials. Can you imagine how much time, stress, anxiety, and yes-money that this entire ordeal hast COST the family. These parents are NOT interested in any type of monetary compensation for themselves, and their lawyer Mr. McGookey deserves to see a payday for all of the hard work he has done in helping this family. What is truly regrettable in the aftermath of Jake's death are people like you that can not bare to support a struggling, hurting family in this community.

bmgasser

(419)202-3692

JHudson320

I don't understand how people could ignorantly comment on such a sensitive situation about a family and group of people they don't know at all. If you knew any of Jake's family or friends you wouldn't think for a second that they were in this for the money. Like Kayleigh said, if you lost a family member or loved one and didn't know why, wouldn't you go to any length to find out why? And what if a loved one passed away and was wrongfully labeled as committing suicide - something that Jake's daughter will see when she gets older, if nothing changes after my family's hard work to find answers. No, it doesn't bring him back, but it could give us some closure. I'm so exhausted by these awful comments from stupid people who don't have a clue what's going on. Why comment at all, if all you have to say are hurtful, ignorant things.

nosey rosey

Move on, get over it, you play with guns bad things happen. At this point, all the money will go to the lawyers cause that's what they do best.

Kottage Kat

Perhaps the action and diligence of this young mans family will expose corruption and the truth will prevail.
God bless you in your quest for the truth.

Kat

Brittany Bowers

Stop exhuming him for nothing, what more are they going to possibly find on him that they didn't catch the first 2 times? I am witness also Kayleigh's sister. Not only is this tearing our family apart but this is also putting extra stress on us witnesses as well. We have been nothing but cooperative this entire time. We have sat through 3 hour long polygraph tests, not to mention answered all the questions from the cops and lawyers involved. Really what else do they need from us? (Our tests came back completely honest by the way) but this is still ongoing because?.... It is a shame that it has come down to this. and I realize by posting this I may have opened up a can of worms for myself, however I am ready for all of this to be over. Let him finally rest in peace. If you need more "answers" find them in other ways. This is getting to be pathetic.

Ithink

Then tell Mike, Shannon and the authorities what really happened and stop covering up things

tankman12

I'm not sure how any user on here could talk about negatively about such a sensitive subject which does not even involve them. Seriously get a life. Put yourself in the shoes of the people who are effected by this and think before you say anything. Prayers to the family.

Kayleigh.Bowers

It's time for you to be truthful. Lets clear this up today you want to do this on a public website?

lolllllll lol

Looks like you've found the truth and you're just trying to crucify someone for some money. This isn't CSI MIAMI.

Kayleigh.Bowers

Thank you tankman I appreciate your kind thoughts!

Kayleigh.Bowers

Crucify a person who may have shot my boyfriend?

bmgasser

Brittany, you have much courage for making a public statement like that. We know that Will and yourself sat through a long and strenuous polygraph test. We also know that 9 out of 9 FBI agents found that you were both deceptive after reviewing the long scrolls of your tests. Deceptive means lying in case you were unsure. Is there anything that Bill Kaiser told you and Will off the record back in July? I have to ask because Bill prematurely turned off his tape recorder when interviewing Will, and then asks you if he can talk to Will again after your interview; also not recorded. Are you aware of what Dr. Wecht found in his autopsy report? Or should I say what he did not find. What Dr. Wecht did not find was "..." I'll let you guess, unless Evan already told you. He then concludes that "...", and finishes by suggesting that the case be treated as a "..." from this point on. Remember when you told Zach Zender partner back in November, "...the night of the murder...?"

bmgasser

I forgot to mention that Will goes into great detail with Bill in describing how he was fooling around pulling the hammer back on the gun to test the resistance. Pretty strange that Bill did not mention this in his report; along with the fact that the audio I'm referring to was withheld from the family for a very long period of time.

These are the facts folks. Interesting huh?

Brittany Bowers

Just like Jesus was wrongfully crucified? - Kayleigh call me, apparently this is the only way a conversation with you will happen.

bmgasser

Now you're comparing yourself to Jesus Christ?

liveurlife

Hahahah bmgasser thats what i said.. wtf Jesus died for our sins.. U didnt do nothing for us.. Compare appLes to apples here..

Brittany Bowers

- I am just sick of everyone else having something to say about the case but the witnesses, and if no one else is going to say something then I will. I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING BUT BE COMPLETELY HONEST WITH ALL OF YOU, AND THIS IS HOW I AM TREATED. Its guilty until proven innocent I guess. What else do you want from me Brady? I wish our roles were reversed so that way I don't have to remember that night at all, you could get your answers and THEN have everyone bash you for being a liar! HE WAS YOUR BEST FRIEND BRADY, do you see why there is no reason for him to be exhumed again? You are looking for something that didn't happen, and until you come face to face with reality you will never begin to heal. This hurts everyone* involved, Ella too. I want my sister back in my life but that isn't going to happen until she believes me. WHY WOULD I LIE ABOUT SOMETHING THIS TERRIBLE? Shows how little you all think of me, of us. I am done writing about this, if you are too scared to answer a phone call then you obviously aren't looking for answers, you want public drama.

bmgasser

What's your number my phone did not ring; I was in Jake and Kayleigh's basement taking a shower. You know how the service is down there. He WAS my best friend that's why I care about finding out the truth. Stop side stepping the facts. When did I say I want him exhumed again?-If Dean Henry tries doing that I plan on being at the cemetery, putting my body between him and the shovel. Don't talk about Ella.

Ithink

Just curious, how did a right-handed person shoot himself at a downward angle behind his left ear? And how did that bullet end up in the ceiling? Just asking you, since you were there and haven't lied about anything.

lolllllll lol

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bmgasser

The coroner never examined Jake

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bmgasser

Hey bro the coroner never examined Jake that's what the problem is. The family had to hire the world renowned forensic pathologist Dr. Cyril Wecht to examine Jake's body. The paper misprinted that information and on no document does Dr. Wecht say anything remotely close to that. I'm at the family's house right now and have been for the majority of the last 10 months of my life. I have seen every single paper, audio, and visual document in regards to this case and their are things that few people know that will be released to the Register very soon. You think you know about the facts of this case by reading the paper?

lolllllll lol

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bmgasser

I'm not going to dignify that with a response. Check back later for the real report..noob

mstacy

I have read Dr. Wecht's findings and there is a staunch contradtition about the distance to what was stated in the paper. The Sandusky Register was mis-informed about the actual distance. They made a factual error as they due from time to time. No paper is perfect. Also I do not stand behind a surname as I write my comments. If you want to be taken seriously then put your name out there or at least pick a diffent one. Lolllllll lol is just pathetic.

Sincerely,
Marcus

lolllllll lol

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Kayleigh.Bowers

Lol- I don't know who you are and I don't care to know who you are but you acting like you know anything about this case is absurd. THE CORONER NEVER ONCE SEEN JACOB, bro. You can ask a witness who had seen dr. Wechts report this past monday and ask him how far away it was from Jacobs head, bro.

lolllllll lol

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hbowers

Lol, I'm not sure why you're arguing with Jake's family and closest friends on this. You look like an idiot, BRO.

Kayleigh.Bowers

We have dr wechts FULL REPORT which states otherwise, I apologize for the papers misprint, lol.

Just Saying

Wow are there no lawyers for the people involved advising them NOT to be posting this type of information on a public forum? "Any thing you say can and will be held against you in a Court of Law" ring a bell?

rdgasser

To all of Jake's family and friends, I'm so sorry that in the midst of your grief and exhausting struggle for truth to finally come to light, that you have to deal with inconsiderate, ignorant, troublemakers like "lollll lol" who don't have all the facts, believe everything they read, have no business making comments, and cowardly hide behind anonymous usernames to spew worthless, spiteful garbage from their filthy mouths. You are all bigger, better people than those cowards. Don't let them push your buttons. Y'all still have our support and prayers. God bless you, and may the truth soon be known to all.

eightballcuet1

I truly believe that Sandusky County dropped the ball on this one. There are so many unanswered questions. I don't know if exhuming Jacob will answer these questions but I hope that the family will finally be able to get some closure.

grinenbareit

Kayleigh and Brittany...I know you both are upset, I'm on your side. But you have to remember you have an "on going" investigation and posting on here can possibly hurt your case.

grinenbareit

Let him rest in peace. It's not his fault that Sandusky County and the coroner didn't do there job correctly. I posted earlier Kayleigh, the S.R. must not have liked it. I am with you.

asweetnessabove

To all of the loved ones of this young man, you have my deepest condolences. I hope you find the answers you so desperately need and deserve. No one deserves the unknown of what truly happened to their loved one.

Do not let the simple minded, negative and ignorant people who comment, get to you. They do not understand what you really are going through. If the tables were turned, they probably would not be as strong and fight for what is right as you are doing. Good luck!

Simple Enough II

Who was the investigating detective? There was a detective called to the scene wasn't there?

mstacy

There was no detective called to the scene that night. Sandusky County Sheriff Overmeyer left road cop Meggitt in charge. This is where the stupidity begins.

mstacy

Futhermore Meggitt remained in charge, until Sandusky County closed the case with no answers the first time.

Simple Enough II

Huh, Didn't he have 2 detectives in the dept. at the time?

wiredmama222

My sincerest sympathies to the family of this young man. Whoever stated that those closest to this investigation should not speak is exactly correct. It is fool-hearty at least for them to post anything at all, least of all their phone numbers, for someone to call them and give them information that probably has nothing to do with this case at all. Or to give them false information. By now, anything ligitamate would have been given to anyone connected with this case. Anything else is covered up well by now.

Yes, it appears this case was botched by the investigating police. And it is shameful that the coronor didn't do his job. It should never have been assumed that this young man took his own life. That was a false assumption from the start. The police should have been more skeptical right off the bat.

Undoing the wrong is being tried but you need cooperation and you would think the police, the coronor and the parents (who are asking with the attorney) would all be on the same page. I find it strange that the parents are the only ones asking anything and the others are fighting so hard to keep them from getting the answers they are looking for? When you act like this it makes everything seem more suspicious than it need be.

If those acting like this have nothing to hide, then pony up the evidence and let it go. Why all the mystery? If you have something to hide, then come clean, admit the errors and be done with it. All this treachery will only make it worse.

How is it that no one found it strange that the bullet became lodged in the ceiling? Has no one heard of "tragectory" on that police force? Or did it not occur to the cop that a bullet in the ceiling means the shot went upward or richoceted in that direction? If the kid pulled the trigger himself, how did he manage that? Try it yourself by holding the gun that way with a non-dominant hand. It cannot be done. So what does THAT tell you?

That leaves very few questions in ones mind, does it not? And I am no brain trust when it comes to police work. So what is going on?

Why the haste to an end? Why the fast track to the cemetary and no autopsy? Makes me wonder?

Now, they want to go through another autopsy. Why? What will that prove? You can't tell what happened. Even Ceril Wecht couldn't. So why be disrepectful to the dead again?

Seems to me they have what they need. The gun, the DNA on that gun and three witnesses to the incident: all with lie detector tests.

Please do not exume this young man again. He has been through enough. The authorities have had plenty of time and information for what they need. They blew their chance at an autopsy. They don't get a second chance to do the right things. Why should they? No....that isn't fair to HIM.

I am not a family member, just a person who doesn't believe that the law gets a second chance to make still another mistake when they blow it any more than a criminal gets a second chance at the law. It isn't fair.

Luke Eddy

lollll lol do you really have nothing better to than to cowardly sit behind your computer screen and insult Jakes family and friends.

24productions

419-626-1211

bmgasser

Wiredmama, if we did not release new information how are would people like you ever know any of the facts regarding this case. Where do we ask people to give us information when posting information? The purpose of that goes along with using our real names. As far as what Dr. Wecht found make sure you see tomorrow's paper

bmgasser

Asking for info when posting phone numbers sorry.

wiredmama222

I would think you would ask in the paper...as before, but not on here. I mean no disrepect and I can only GUESS at the frustration that you all feel over this mess. But please watch what you are posting, especially when using your phone number on these pages. When all is said and done, you will be bombarded with things you do not want. Then how will you stop it? By asking? It won't stop.

Just let this go to the hands of your attorney. I know him. Let him do what he needs to do. Let the courts handle this one. I understand you haven't had your day there yet, but eventually you will. Give it a chance. Ever "dog" has his day. (I am not trying to be funny...there is nothing funny about this).

But for yourselves and your family...try and be patient and wait. Patience will get you through it and patience will find the truth.

starryeyes83

I don't know any of these people , but, I hope these comments are monitered by the authorities.

bmgasser

Everything we posted is public information

starryeyes83

Perhaps, but all the personal issues and phone numbers aren't.

reporter54

yeah, 'sis', you should not be posting and everyone else should just let it be too. this is a private issue between your family and the authorities and there is no need to debate it here. also, using the term bro' is passe (which means no longer popular or regularly used)

liveurlife

This would prob go a lot smoother if the witnesses didn't lie to the ppl investigating..how can you all be sitting there with him and all have different stories? Something fishy about that.. the people that will do another autopsy will find out that more than likely he didn't pull the trigger and you ppl that were there with him will get charged with murder. It sucks they didn't figure that out the first time and jus ended it without further investigation..hope the family and friends will get closure soon and the witnesses will stop lying and being scary and come clean..

Kelly

*getting popcorn*

Kayleigh.Bowers

Thank you liveurlife! Perfectly said!

liveurlife

Ur welcome!! It jus doesnt make sense but it will cuz if none of them confess they will all three go down for it.. Three birds with one stone.

EdO's

I think that the Sandusky Register has a responsibility to monitor these comments and uphold a standard of public decency.

I support the efforts of the family to find out the truth of the matter whatever it is. We would want the same. We are a community and we want the people who are sworn to uphold justice to be held accountable to do exactly that. Enough stonewalling.

For the Register to allow anonymous posters to libel the family in comments to this article now becomes as much the fault of the editor as the poster.

wiredmama222

Oh, wait. I take extreme exception to this posting. I have no stake in this on either side, but what you just stated is truly unfair.

Family members made some pretty hard veiled accusations against people who were there themselves. What would you have the SR do to the FAMILY members? To say that the SR should take action against others for what they say to the FAMILY members is totally unfair.

You cannot have it both ways. What is fair for one, should be fair for all, do you not agree? The story is about the possible exhumation of the deceased young man. A supposed family member comes on here asking questions and making comments right off the bat. After several terse and heated comments later, you say the SR should "hold anonymous poster for libel" against the family? How do you figure that one?

See, this is exactly why family members should NEVER post on a site about family. Someone always takes exception. They get too involved and do not remain objective.

This is a totally biased statement on your part EdO and you might want to think about this: The family gave as good as they got. No one got anywhere near libel and I don't think the SR should have to do anything about the postings any more than they did.

I feel sorry for this family, I really do, but not to the point of silencing every opinion but that of the family.

EdO's

When a poster says "...All this so the family can cash in on the insurance policy and try to gather enough dirt so some scumbag lawyer can make a buck..."

it's incumbent on the editor to make a call in the interest of decent behavior.

deertracker

I see your point but that would be censorship in which is suppose to be a free society. Those that hide behind a keyboard and say "whatever" are cowardly in my opinion. Sad but true!

tk

I do not blame the family of this young man for trying to find out the truth of what happened. If it were my son I would do the same. I hope they find the answers they so desperately need.

bmgasser

http://www.thenews-messenger.com...

there it is everyone. what do you think about that lolllllll lol? is that enough documentation for you?

bmgasser

Jake Limberios MURDERED, county road 294, March 2nd, 2012

bmgasser

Dr. Wecht was very upset to hear that special prosecutor Dean Henry is attempting to conduct a second autopsy in Lucas County. Dean Henry is trying to suggest that Dr. Wecht was paid off by the family for the results that they wanted. Shannon Limberios contacted The Ohio State University when the family first sought to have Jake examined by a forensic pathologist after Sandusky County Prosecutor Tom Stierwalt refused to conduct one. The representatives at OSU were appalled by the situation and referred Shannon to Dr. Wecht. They were unaware of who Dr. Wecht exactly was until after they hired him. The original distance published in the Sandusky Register of about one inch was misinformation that came from Dr. Wecht's assistant who is NOT a pathologist. Dr. Wecht was also unaware of this mistake until very recently and apologized for the tragic mistake.

bmgasser

JUSTICE FOR JAKE...look out for Emil's contribution in Tuesday's SR

concernedmom81

Brady, I think Jake was very lucky to have you as a best friend. It's pretty rare to find someone that would fight for them the way you have along with the family, Kayleigh and Ella. I'm glad things are finally coming out. It's a shame this has had to go on so long and cause so much pain because people failed to do their job. I hope they all are held accountable. I laughed yesterday when i read somebodies post about "this isn't CSI Miami. Obviously because they would've done the job right the first time! I support the Limberios family 110% - I would do the same thing in heart beat for my child!

bmgasser

Concernedmom81, I can not thank you enough for your kind words. Many people have contributed to this cause in many different ways. Again, we all greatly appreciate your support.
-Brady M Gasser

Kayleigh.Bowers

Wiredmom our lawyer doesn't care if we state the truth. Someone has to. I will continue to post on what I believe in and defend Jacob until the truth comes out, not only for Jacob but for my daughter. I don't let the inconsiderate statements posted on here phase me I just simply reply with complete honesty to give you simple minded people details since you guys read an article and make false statements when you guys have no idea what's really going on. Judge me for it but no matter what you say I will not change what I do for you. I'm in this til the end! I'm sure if you were in our position you would do the same.

Kayleigh.Bowers

Friends like brady make the statement "family doesn't always have to be blood" true.
Love you b-rad-a-tat-tat.

asweetnessabove

That is true, family can be who you choose it to be. And looks like your little girl will have a very wonderful "uncle" in Bmgasser. I wish you and your * chosen FAMILY* (all that have supported and loved you through this terrible ordeal) the best of luck. I hope you all find truth, and I wish you the best of luck raising that baby girl of yours and Jake's.

I do not know anyone in this case, but my heart breaks for you. You have my deepest sympathies, condolences and utmost support.

bmgasser

We can not express how much that kind of public support keeps us going. Voices from members of the surrounding communities will help make sure that this does not happen to anyone other family. I appreciate your kindness.
-Brady M Gasser

asweetnessabove

You are very welcome! You will all be in my thoughts and prayers.
-Angel

bmgasser

And this family knows a hard rain's a-gonna fall! Love you too Bratty B*

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2cents

Three teenagers, a revolver, and probably goofing around. Just a bad mix no matter what! If someone else pulled the trigger and the three were not a bunch of hardened criminals I am sure the real story would have slipped out if it were more than a tragic accident that all involved with must live with for the rest of their lives. Personally I do not like revolvers, because a round can be in front of the firing pin and I never have one in the chamber unless I am ready to fire the firearm.

rickross2

Word.....my .40 always has 14 in the clip, 0 in the chamber. it only takes .45 seconds to make it hot!