VIDEO: Suspect pulled baby from woman's arms

Police Chief John Orzech describes chaotic scene when police arrived. Get index to related articles, video and photo galleries here.
Jason Werling
May 18, 2013

 

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"They were both struggling to gain control of the baby," Orzech said. 

Denzel Castile, 19, broke away with the infant and stabbed her twice before charging at officers. 

An SPD officer scooped up Athena and rushed her out to the ambulance squad that had arrived. 

"They took off right away to the hospital. Lifeflight was there but they couldn't get the baby stabilized. They worked on her for several hours and she passed away," Orzech said. 

A woman in the house said Castile erupted in violence.

"He started going crazy. He just blew up. He just blew up. He lost it,” a witness told police immediately after Castile, 19, broke away and stabbed Athena.

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Comments

itypedformiles

I don't really think anybody needs to see this?

Kelly

I think everyone needs to see it especially the ones saying what a great guy the baby killer is.

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LeftwhileIhadAChance

Let me ask you a question; do you know anyone with any mental disorders such as bipolar or schizophrenia? I do. I grew up with one in the same house hold. He is a great guy, & when he breaks loose from reality he does some unspeakable things & then when he comes too, he doesn't even remember it. I KNOW Denzel. I grew up with him. That's not him. Something bad happened & had he gotten the proper treatment his family was seeking for, he'd be getting help & she would still be alive. I'm in no way trying to justify his actions. But maybe you should look at the whole picture instead of judging so quickly.

gringadeoh

I am so glad someone actually put a comment like this...working in the mental health field...this was my first thought about this tragedy ...and these disorders usually come out in early 20s. I pray for EVERYONE involved...including Denzel.

bondgirlM

I don't care about Denzel. That innocent baby did not deserve to die. If Denzel has mental issues then he needed to get mental help. So we are suppose to feel sorry for him and let him go to prison for a few years and be turned lose again to do more of the same. NO THANKS we have had enough of that...either put him to death or lock him up forever!

Kelly

Yes, my brother is bipolar. He's never killed anyone but if he had then I could not say that he's a good person. He would be a murderer...just like the babykiller is now.

RUKidding

I've always been one to agree that there needs to be more mental health awareness and aid. At the same time though, there needs to be family intervention. I don't care if he was "ok" at one point and snapped or whatever the situation was. If he had issues, then he shouldn't have been around a child that small.

SuspectBlackMale

BULL. Now play the race card too

VOTENO

*eye roll*

Kelly

Exactly! How can you not roll your eyes at people who make excuses for a baby killer?

vicariouslyAlive

Its the new big thing so its gonna be covered 3 times daily just like the Jake case has been...

Nice to see other stories covered with the same ferver... but this is a bit much... decent chance of pace though.

deertracker

I think some do. The outrage on here as been really strong and rightfully so but the facts can help some understand what happened. Of course he has to be held accountable for his actions but if he had some type of psychotic break that should be considered when handing down punishment. It is a sad and tragic situation for all involved.

happycamper01

I don't believe that a psychotic break should absolve him of his crime. I am a mental health professional but I can't justify this one with not guilty by reason of insanity because he knows right from wrong and was trying to kill himself in the hospital. I work with people who have been found not guilty by reason of insanity and do not believe or trust that they are safe for society but yet they are out living amongst us. I seem to remember someone else who was found not guilty by reason of sanity for murdering someone many years ago and then a few years ago he killed a police officer. No, not guilty by reason of insanity is a cop out. Guilty of murder. Period.

happyfeet64

I agree but unfortunately the state of Ohio doesn't agree with us.A psychotic break and the LEGAL definition of insanity are not one and the same but most people on a jury do not comprehend the difference. I too believe guilty of murder period.

deertracker

Your point is well taken but keep in mind no one spoke of "absolving" him of the crime. As a mental health professional you surely can be objective enough to look at the entire picture and be smart enough not to equate all situations. I am not sure who is the real judge if someone suffers a mental breakdown. You can't deny that this is totally abnormal behavior for anyone but especially someone who has displayed a different character and personality.

happycamper01

A "mental breakdown" or psychotic break as well call it does happen but in my expierience it should not absolve them from their crime. For insanity to be proven he must not have known what he was doing was wrong. He must have been so cognitively and mentally impaired that he had no clue about right or wrong. You can be insane or psychotic and still know right from wrong. From what I am reading I believe he did but he will be given extensive psychiatric and psychological evaluations to determine if he was insane at the time of the murder. However, even if he is found not guilty by reason of insanity would you really trust he would never have another psychotic break? He could spend years in a state hospital for the criminally insane (not much better than prison) and then get out. I would never trust him again, especially if he were living close to me. Medication stops working, person stops taking medication, or just has another psychotic episode after years of not having one. I believe those who commit very violent crimes and are found insane should have to spend the rest of their lives in a mental hospital where they can be monitored, made to take their medications, will never pose a danger to others and hopefully not to themselves.

Stating I was on drugs or alcohol will not absolve him from guilt. A psychotic break may.

I do feel bad for the whole family on both sides but this young man has proven he is not safe to be in society. Justice will be served but will it be in favor of the baby or for him? Either way he will be locked up for a very long time.

Katelih-Trailer...

I have a question for you, happycamper..If I see a loved one is acting and doing some unexplainable things..what can I do to get them help, or at least have them evaluated, even if the person is unwilling? I don't mean AFTER they have committed a crime.

happycamper01

You can call the police or squad and they can bring him or her into the ER where the emergency therapist will be called in to evaluate him. The unwilling part is where it gets tricky. If the person is a danger to himself or others he will be brought in. If the person is obviously out of touch with reality then they will be treated. If the person is just depressed but is not displaying suicidal or homicidal behavior then getting the person help can be quite hard. This is where people get mad at the system because they think we can force help on everyone but we can't. The person has to be a danger to himself and/or others. Adults have rights that we can't take away unless they are dangerous. This happened because in the past family members and others would have people committed just because they didn't want to deal with them or would be angry with them. It was meant to protect people from being hospitalized unnecessarily but it does have some negative consequences. One being people that really need help refuse. I mean we can't even make people take their medication. It is a flawed system but it is what we have at this time. We don't even have enough group homes for adults with mental illness. Between funding and maintaining people's rights our hands are tied.

Katelih-Trailer...

Thanks..I kinda figured as much. It's a shame that some people refuse help who REALLY need it, then do something horrific! Also, are there any adult group homes, in which you speak of, in Sandusky? Thanks for your input.

happycamper01

Yes, a few but they are usually full and they have to qualify but not every county have group homes. Funding to pay for these homes are also hard to come by at times. It is very sad because many times the families don't know what to do. They love the MI family member but don't feel safe with them in their home or can't care for them properly so many times when placement is not possible they wind up living on their own in the community with case management to help keep them compliant with treatment. Again, this doesn't always work because forcing someone into compliance is a last resort left to people who are so out of touch with reality or are actively a danger.

dorothy gale

Very good point. Thank you for posting this. An adult cannot be forced to get treatment or take meds, and it is a shame that the people who need mental health services the most AREN'T the ones who are seeking treatment. There are so many layers to this tragic situation, more than whether or not he was a "good kid" or a "monster," but the fact remains that he stabbed an infant and the infant died. If he is truly mentally ill then that should be addressed.

whazup

I like your statement that there are so many layers. He was a good kid but that night he clearly was a monster. The fact that he was still wild hours later in the jail makes me very curious of what was different about the young man I saw and the one that killed that sweet baby. Whatever the reason, it doesn't change what he did but the family deserves to know.

your master

but he was a good boy that boy is the best boy I have ever met he couldn't possibly do this the police must be lying how do anybody judge just boy why we should let him go today hold a banquet and then a parade in his honor. 11 week old baby that's all I have to say.

OH-IO

Your my master. I'll do whatever you say. Your weird and deviant. Your the boss. Your the master of everyone like the master of the girls in Cleveland. Whatever you say MASTER.

your master

Its the only thing I ever asked for. You will find your life will start to improve from this moment on. The Master has spoken.

OH-IO

If your on this page and calling yourself a master; your really a word that rhythms with master. LOL.

Maboom2Paul

He was NOT a good boy. A good boy wouldn't have harmed anyone let alone a baby. A good boy, knowing he did something wrong would surrender himself. A good boy simply would not kill an innocent baby. Good Boy My A** You must be sheltered if he is the best boy you ever met.

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LeftwhileIhadAChance

Have you ever met him? Did you see him on a daily basis? I did. He WAS a good guy. Good people are capable of doing horrible things when something bad happens. People break. Instead of sitting here bashing him, how about you just pray for that baby girl & her family?

YouDon'tSay

Everyone in that house deserves to get charged! People say he was acting "different" all day, staring at the newborn and talking to himself. If this was going on, why didn't someone leave with the baby or take his A$$ to Firelands for a evaluation? The officers show up to a bunch of adults in a pileup on the floor, with this tiny little baby under them all? Why didnt anyone step in then? The truth will all come out sooner or later.

starryeyes83

Maboom,

your master was being very sarcastic. Because that's all people are saying who are defending him {the killer}.

TakinOutTheTRASH

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KAM

I am very close with the mother and honestly many of these comments would probably hurt her. Not only has she lost her precious little baby girl, but she has also lost who she thought her cousin was, that did this to her baby. I know she is very confused and hurt. I am not saying that even though Denzel seemed to be a good kid in the past that what he did is justified, but I am saying that we do not have all the pieces to the puzzle. This sweet baby girl is dead and he will have to suffer the consequences no matter what he was like in the past. I just wish that some of you leaving harsh and disturbing comments would take into consideration that there is a hurting mother who is hurting over her baby and her cousin. None of us can imagine how difficult this must be.

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LeftwhileIhadAChance

I agree 100%. But people have nothing better to do than to sit here & harshly judge someone they don't know.

YouDon'tSay

Then maybe the mother shouldn't be on the SR reading the comments. I would think she would have more important things to occupy her time.

Katelih-Trailer...

KAM..since you said,"...would probably hurt her." I assume she hasn't read the comments and you should be a good friend and not tell her.

whazup

I don't think anyone who describes him as a nice boy, a friendly boy, a boy with manners is denying what he has done. I have been around Denzel enough to tell you that what they are describing is what I saw. People are just SHOCKED that he was capable of this, they never expected him to do something like this. How would you like to have a friend or family member who did what he did? These folks are just trying to cope with the situation. They are not excusing his behavior, just wanting to understand why he would be so violent. It is not easy having a family member murdered and it is not easy being the family member of a murderer. This poor family has both. The justice system will try him and if he is found guilty (mostly like will), the system will decide if he should die. Show some compassion to those close to the situation. There are a lot of people hurting right now.

DickTracey

What would turn a good, well mannered, educated boy psycho? I'll tell you, two words....

BATH SALTS

kaybebaby

That's exactly what I've been thinking, DickTracey.

saxkris

That is what I am thinking too

Krissy3

me too

BEHAPPY

Same here ....good ; ole bath salts!

DGMutley

Good point.

brassman

Or Schizophrenia, he's at the right age to develop it. Either way he should be locked up & never let out.

beatstreet

Proverbs 16:32 ESV

"Whoever is slow to anger is better than the mighty, and he who rules his spirit than he who takes a city."

Self discipline and self control are sadly lacking in far too many people.

saxkris

I think the public hearing the story as it unfolds, helps the public understand better how such a terrible tragedy happened. At this point is is unbelievable how someone could harm a innocent child in such an awful way.

Sitting In The ...

"There are crimes that, like frost on flowers, in one single night destroy character and reputation" - Henry Ward Beecher

Simple Enough II

Curious what would make a "normal" person ( I have to assume that as I don't know him) behave in such a manner. Was he on antidepressents? did he take or use drugs? As some suggested or wondered, did he take bath salts? What had this family out in the yard fighting or who were they trying to subdue this guy?

Julie R.

An 11-week old infant can't even support their heads yet. If the cops were there when he was trying to pull the baby from the woman's arms, why didn't they stop him? Why didn't they get him in a choke-hold or something?

bella39

@ Julie R..I asked the same question!...I mean really SPD were you afraid of the situation and didn't react as quick as you should have? I mean you were their...

YouDon'tSay

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bella39

I blame ALL that were there acting a fool in front of that beautiful baby PERIOD!!

jes1413

These officers are not afraid. Ask this question, how long does it take to stab someone? How many officers were there at the time the stabbing actually occurred? If you think you can do it better, go for it. If not, stop judging the people who put themselves in harms way for the city of Sandusky. This is like suggesting these officers simply didn't care that a baby was stabbed. Let me tell you, some of them have kids of their own, some don't... but I know that EVERY one of them walked away with a piece of their heart missing as a result of what they saw.

jes1413

This is more ignorant than the people saying this was a "good person". You have the NERVE to suggest that the officers responding simply sat there while a baby was killed because they were fearful?!?! The was ONE officer on the scene first, who was trying to break up the dog pile. The baby was then taken from the woman holding her. How long do you think it takes to stab someone? Maybe 2 seconds? You should be ASHAMED of yourself. If you think you can do this better, by all means, put your badge on and get out there. Or hide on your computer posting the most ignorant comment I have seen. These officers are REVLIVING seeing a DEAD BABY and you simply suggest they should have tried a little harder?!

bella39

I know the family most of my life and Denzil WAS a well respected young man! His mother did a wonderful job raising him he was brought up in the church heavy!..Now what happen that tragic night was unthinkable! and everyone that knows him would have never thought in a million years he would be capable of doing something so horrific to his own sweet baby cousin so here it goes {my thoughts}...If Denzil was in fact on a drug of some sort or the marijuana that was passed to him at a party was "laced" and he hasn't been "right" since.. OR the fact he was on bath salts that DOES NOT EXCUSE HIM!! HE HAD A CHOICE TO SMOKE THAT WEED OR INHALE THOSE BATH SALTS {Or whatever you do with them}WHATS SO EVER!! But in reality this family {all of them} are in GREAT pain because this family is very much in torn apart and in shock!...One infant dead and the other dead in the system however you wanna look at it he is gone too...PRAY FOR STRENGTH FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY NOT JUST SIDES...

Julie R.

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jes1413

Think before you speak. Those officers would have traded their own lives to save that baby.

whazup

Absolutely they would have!

brassman

You don't really think she'd have anything good to say about any public official, do you? Maybe he went nuts because he was tired of hearing the disinherited drone on about "fraudulent" deeds, titles, and Sheriff's sales?

dorothy gale

LOL!

Julie R.

brassman: Why did you have my comment deleted? All I did was ask was ask why nobody stopped that maniac when he was trying to pull that infant out of somebody's arms.

As for your sarcasm that I'm making things up about your corrupt Erie County courts "fraudulent" deeds, titles, and Sheriff sales --- duh, it's a matter of public record.

http://erie.iviewtaxmaps.com/Res...

jes1413

You forgot to ask why the family didn't try to stop him... you simply blamed the cops. And did you ever consider that someone did try to stop him and you weren't there so you just simply wouldn't know about it?

cockynurse

Jes: remember-the family said there wasn't a problem...according to the 911 playback. Nope-no problem-just a brawl ending with this "nice guy" stabbing a defenseless infant to death with a steak knife....which is somehow LE's fault, right? Pfftttt

I feel awful for the family involved-I really do. They lost a baby and a 19 year old loved one. At the same time-what do you do with a guy who is capable, for whatever reason, of brutally murdering a defenseless, innocent 11 week old baby? Even if it is mental illness-do we take a chance of ever letting him out of jail so he can have another psychotic break and do it again? Ugh-no.

There are no do-overs when you murder a baby...better not be anyways.

As for this attacking SPD-SHAME ON YOU, Julie and whoever else is questioning the actions of these officers. Why does this city show consistent disrespect for law enforcement?

jes1413

You are a prime example of the issues we are facing with our society. You are blaming the death of an infant on the police officers and first responders, rather than the person who stabbed her.

Julie R.

I'm not a prime example of the issues we are facing with society. It's the racist comments that are being made (example: TakingOutTheTRASH) that are a prime example.

jes1413

Oh believe me, he/she is another example of the issues in our society. But you should consider blaming the individual who stabbed the baby before blaming the people who tried to save the baby's life. They did everything they could to save that baby, and suggesting otherwise is disgusting.

Julie R.

Another prime example of what's wrong with society is right at your Erie County courthouse.

brassman

What does the courthouse have to do with this story, or most of the stories you comment on? Not a darn thing. Everything you complain about is a lie or you would have won a lawsuit and gotten restitution but you haven't. It was all legal and you are just bitter. The police did nothing wrong in this case and are not even the slightest bit to blame.

Brainiac2007

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brassman

What are you talking about? I haven't have anyone's comment deleted. I'm not surprised that you had one deleted but I had nothing to do with it.

That wasn't sarcasm, it was the truth. It's not public record. What is public record is that your mom changed her will and you didn't benefit. It's pretty obvious why she did that. If there were all these glaringly obvious defects you would have won a lawsuit...BUT YOU DIDN'T.

Julie R.

Everything is a matter of public record. Check out the Lorain County Recorder where the sneaky dirt-bags hid a forged power of attorney. You can even read it online.

candleburner

I'm just getting a chance to read all of these and from what I've read about the incident every article I've read said that the scene was so chaotic that they had to call in three other departments. I know that if I were there and I had the baby in my arms already and he snatched her out of my arms and started stabbing her I probably would have been shocked to the point where I wouldn't be able to move for a moment before jumping into action. I'm not sure who wouldn't be from what it sounds like. And for all of these people who are suddenly blaming it on his "mental instability" if they knew that he was having an problem why wasn't it pushed to have it addressed? Yeah I've read that he went to the hospital and there was "nothing done", well I worked in the ER and I know how that all works. I also know that there's a responsibility on the patient's part to follow thru too and apparently he didn't, he just let it all go because he #1, didn't feel it was a problem or #2, didn't want to get the help to begin with and that's part of why nothing was done at the hospital. If he truly has a mental illness I hope he gets help AFTER he's held accountable for what he did to that child. Even those with a mental illness can be held responsible for what they've done once they've been diagnosed and treatment has begun. He shouldn't just get off with a pat and on the head and "well go on and don't do it again" because of whatever is going on with his psyche. And I do hope and pray that the mother of this poor innocent sweet child isn't reading these. She shouldn't have to be put thru the pain and torture of seeing all that's being said. But if she is I do pray that she can get some peace over all this soon. If it's only in the memories of the short time that she had with her beautiful little angel. She was a beautiful little girl from the pictures I saw and such a sweet little smile.

TakinOutTheTRASH

I remember seeing a video a few months back where an SPD officer shot and killed a dog because the dog scared the mail lady. That officer shot that dog in the head and killed him. Why did they not shoot this monster?

Hoss McGee

He's only 19 so everybody that has been saying he a fantastic guy, will have him back by the time he's 30. He'll take a plea deal or plead insanity and he'll probably only get 10 years of being Willies girlfriend!

TakinOutTheTRASH

I hope Willie gives him a real good workout every single day he's there!

he said she said

Everyone remember Adrea Yates? She drown her 5 children in the bathtub? She had two attempts at suicide, had been in psychiatric care in a hospital four times and was taking medication for psychosis. Her delusions make her think she was saving her children because she felt she was evil and Satan told her to kill her children to save them.

Point is, she still went to prison for killing her kids even with all the medical and psychological history that she had.

A psychotic break doesn't keep you from going to jail and it surely doesn't explain why he did what he did when everyone says he was such a good kid.

happycamper01

Well said.

grumpy

In her (Andrea Yates) state there is a chance to find them guilty but mentally ill. They do their time either in prison or in a mental facility, depending on how mentally ill they are, till their time is served. If they never get mentally better I don't know if they ever get out. I haven't read that anywhere when I researched it, so I can't say what would happen if their time was served and they are still mentally disturbed.

happycamper01

I do want to add the majority of people who are diagnosed with mental illness are treated and are great people. Please don't stigmatize people with MI into an all must be dangerous/crazy category because it would be grossly unfair.

Mum-of-One

There is also a difference between mental illness and illegal drug use. Using illegal drugs is a choice, mental illness is not.

yea right

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happyfeet64

That's just plain wrong to even suggest something like that!

candleburner

How would SPD be racist when I would say that the majority of the department is africian-american. I mean I don't know the official numbers to give you an exact ratio but its a pretty safe bet to say there's no cheering in the locker room over any of this.

TakinOutTheTRASH

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Julie R.

They decrease their worthless population all on their own?

That sure is a more than cruel and evil thing to say about an innocent little baby. No wonder Sandusky is in the shape it's in.

OH-IO

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cockynurse

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jes1413

This is disgusting.

cockynurse

Yea right-are you delusional???

starryeyes83

Now it's the cops' fault?? I hope at least **yea right** was being sarcastic.

What in the hell is wrong with some of you. The family members are the ones who put that child in danger in the first place YOU don't have a Baby around people who do drugs.

He got the knife and was hellbent on stabbing someone dead. Unfortunately, it was a baby instead of himself!

No one in that house wants to accept responsibility for their actions or admit to his ... How typical.

I don't care if they are related. NO excuses. Not mental issues not drug issues. That is cop out. He's a danger to the public.

yea right

Talking about the way cops handle things as was stated abovementioned

TheScientist

As jes1413 has stated, let's not forget the police on your prayers list. Whoever those responding officer(s) was/were is going to require intense therapy. Those men and women are trained to think of their safety first. If there was a mob scene, then breaking things up on before backup arrived would have been suicide. Thankfully that LEO was there to immediately get the baby to an arriving ambulance. While we're at it, prayers of thanks and healing for those paramedics, doctors and nurses at the hospital too.

I hope the county prosecutor handles this case accordingly. Their office seems to have their plates full for the upcoming years with so many murders going on.

Julie R.

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itssad1

I have family members that are bi-polar and other issues it does not give them the right to kill any one and they say well I am bi-polar so slap me on the wrist give me some meds (that I probably won't take anyways)I will never do it again. a person with mental problems need to take it more serious than most do. Meds are a key roll in mental diseases and a person who doesn't take them should be court ordered to and have a nurse give them daily by injection(just to protect the rest of society.

Onemanforce

People that do these sort of atrocities to another person, especially the most defenseless of beings: an 11-week old cherub, can not and MUST NOT be referred of as "A good kid". Charles Manson, the Unabomber, Curtis Clinton and that despicable piece of undesirable waist that took my friend Andy, would you call them "Good boys"? Would you say of them that they were such good persons and what they did breaks your heart because they didn't get the mental health help they needed? Would you feel so companionate and forgiving if the little victim was your child? There is no absolution for this crime, and I am a firm proponent of administering as punishment to muderers, the same manner of death which their victims suffered. It is what it is: he stabbed a little defenseless baby girl. Not once, BUT SEVERAL TIMES!!! Let me say that again: he stabbed a little defenseless baby girl. Not once, BUT SEVERAL TIMES!!! Is it sinking in yet, leftwhileihadachance and other supporters of this maniac? IS IT?

Onemanforce

Julie R. I don't know what you posted, as it was promptly removed by the "freedom of speech" advocates that do what? Limit our freedom of speech in this website. But I have a feeling I would strongly agree with you. LOL

Julie R.

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Julie R.

Wow! My buds at the courthouse sure are after me on this thread. (chuckle-chuckle)

Brainiac2007

I will never give out my name on this type of public forum, I will not become a victim of this type of tragedy due to my personal opinions. But I will say I am one of those "Bible thumpers" that are also being discriminated against on here, the difference between me and the others is as follows
1) There is NO EXCUSE to EVER MURDER an infant, or any child (or human being in general)
2) If Denzel WAS such a wonderful child, he learned some very aggressive behaviors along his path to adulthood.
3) If thinking back correctly while following this story it stated a large group of adults were engaged in physical confrontation in the home when SPD arrived, this in itself is a disgrace. Im positive that baby was also in the mix while these "upstanding citizens" were acting like violent children with NO COMMON SENSE
4) This story hits home for me, as I am much more involved with this situation then Brittany Murphy, I too have known Denzel since he took one of his first breaths, and Brittany no pun intended but he has been in legal trouble for several years now. He chose to rob, fight, and become disobedient, he decided the law was below him and that he would defy it at every turn in the road. Denzel made these choices and he will have to suffer his consequences.
I do not believe there is any reason to discriminate when it comes to race, religion, ethnicity, or sex, we are all THE HUMAN RACE and the bottom line is we are all entitled to OUR FEELINGS, freedom of expression is something we are all entitled too but degrading one another is showing how little care we have as a generalized society for other human beings. So whether you are a "Bible thumper" like myself that finds comfort in reading this book, or whether your a person whom holds no religion at all TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED AND BY THIS HANG ALL THE LAWS! If this were the way of life there would be no murderers, robberies, nor any other violent crimes! Have a great night! If I offended anyone I refuse to apologize because regardless THERE IS NO EXCUSE TO INTENTIONALLY KILL ANOTHER HUMAN BEING, especially one that could have caused you absolutely no harm at all! Denzel I cant even find words to suit you, that would keep me guilt free in my promises to the Lord. Rest In Peace Athena, we all love you darling Fly Free and Nestle lovingly in The Lords Arms!

LisaLeibacher

Thank you Brainiac2007

DGMutley

Good post, Brainiac. Thanks.

Swiftshot

I guess what we are saying is that when you see a loaded gun... You either unload it, run away or take it for what it is. I would personally remove the bullets so it wouldn't do any harm to anyone. I guess the mom learned that the hard way.

anothersanduskymama

Regardless of his good he WAS, or his mental problems... fact is that he killed an innocent baby. He obviously wasn't a model citizen since he had been arrested for drugs and underage drinking not too long ago... and if his family knew he was having problems they should have gotten him help, but also protected the ones that can't protect themselves. I too have family that is bipolar, and although they are getting help and I love them very much... I do not trust them around my baby. Denzel is still responsible for the murder of an innocent baby, and needs to be held accountable.