Update: Crew sent to clean up ball park

Someone ordered it done
Register
Jun 4, 2013

 

Update: The ball park the city forgot about for the last few years got a quick makeover Tuesday hours after an article about concerns from two commissioners was posted at sanduskyregister.com.

Sandusky city commissioners Diedre Cole and Wes Poole both wanted a cleanup but were unable to get fellow commissioners to act.

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City manager Nicole Ard did not immediately respond Tuesday to an email inquiry asking who ordered the cleanup. Ard generally does not return phone calls or respond to email inquiries. If she does respond her replies are sometimes non-responsive to the questions or nonsensical. 

Commissioners Julie Farrar and Jeff Smith both complained about Cole and Poole asking for the cleanup. Farrar suggested Poole was ignorant and Smith posted inaccurate statements about the Register's role in reporting the information. Neither commissioner responded to a request for additional information. 

Commissioners Keith Grohe, Pervis Brown and ex officio mayor John Hamiltion, who together with Farrar and Smith make up the majority coalition on commission, also did not respond. Poole also did not respond. 

Farrar and Smith also said the city couldn't afford to send a work crew to the park. It's not clear how that was overcome Tuesday. 

Cole said all she hoped for was that the park would get cleaned up. 

"I'm surprised it was done so quickly but I'm not complaining," she said. 

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Original post, June 4, 2013
7:33 a.m.

City's park maintenance under fire 

SANDUSKY — The city has let the Huron Park baseball field go un-maintained for years, and now two city commissioners want that to change. 

"We just need to have the field repaired to a standard suitable for safety and reasonable use now," Sandusky city commissioner Diedre Cole stated in an email to fellow commissioner Julie Farrar. 

Cole suggested that Farrar's opposition to maintaining the baseball field was ignoring the needs of neighborhood youngsters who still use the field quite frequently despite the city's refusal to properly maintain it. 

"From outward appearances it looks like the poor inner-city kids get the crap field while those who can afford league participation get the well-adorned fields of Dorn Park and Amvets Park," Cole told Farrar. "Like it or not, that's how it looks and your continued support concretes that position." 

Farrar suggested the city cannot maintain the park due to manpower issues and finances. 

"Our grounds department has nearly 600 acres of grass to mow in our parks, weed spraying that needs done, public bathrooms to clean, setting up for special events, equipment that has to be moved all about the city and they only have two full-time employees and two seasonal employees to do it," Farrar wrote in response to an email from city commissioner Wes Poole. "I guess you could get all that work done with just those four people and that wouldn't overwhelm you? You're so awsome!!"

Farrar also suggested Poole was stupid for inquiring about the field. 

"I cannot even believe I am responding to your uneducated yammering about something you weren't even around to take part in," Farrar wrote in her email to Poole.

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Comments

Julie R.

I had to laugh when I saw the first two articles on here this morning.

1st story, City commissioners squabble ........ and the 2nd story, Some things never change.

phroggy

"Your so awesome!" Apparently so is not learning grade school grammar.

mrite

So here is an idea. Let able bodied recipients of welfare maintain these parks. If they are not working yet collecting gov't assistance there is no reason why they can't maintain them.

grandmasgirl

Not going to happen, and anyone who thinks this is a bad idea is probably on welfare themselves. I have long thought that not only people on welfare but people serving jail time for nonviolent crimes, need to do this. Days of having pride and not wanting to accept charity are over. It's a gimme, gimme world.

JERRY from SANDUSKY

Get the salary people off thier a$$ and do some work

KnuckleDragger

Not gonna happen. The two full time parks employees are unionized. Have you ever heard of a union contract that allows management to do the job of union labor? No? I didn't think so.

The Bizness

I don't think they really need to do much other than fix the chain link fences, fill in some low spots with dirt, and spruce it up a little. No need to put turf in or do anything crazy. Just have it look respectable. It is a fairly visible part of town.

KnuckleDragger

There seems to be quite a few community activists in this city, I'm sure a call to volunteer would net quite a few people who would clean it up for free.

yogiberra

This is extremely sad. I remember practicing there in Atom League and 7th Grade Football Practice there too. I wish I still lived in Sandusky to help. Ms Cole...it may be time to ask to community to come together and help. See if any area business would donate to bring it back to good condition.

sandtown born a...

Yeah then the ground will be covered in trash and who knows what else. Problem is most of the youth in this town have no respect for people or property. Trash everything possible and complain the city isn't doing nothing for the underprivilaged. BS, I have seen the trash strewn parks for years they throw trash on the ground next to the trash can, no problem our city workers will pick it up yeah we have a budget to support that

The Bizness

I agree that many people at that park in particular do not respect the area, but don't you think the city should keep the fence in operating condition and make sure the ground is level so a kid doesn't break his ankle when running the bases?

I have walked through that park after a hot summer day many times and have seen what looks like almost a disaster scene with trash, diapers, food waste, and everything you could imagine on the ground.

grandmasgirl

It's not just Sandusky where kids do this. I have sat in my car and watched someone get out of their car and throw a "big gulp" cup down. It amazing, like I said, it's a gimme world. And a lot of these people know that someone like you and me will pick up after them just because we don't want our town to look bad.

gene44870

whats wrong with having high school students or even better , get some of the ones that ow back fines through sandusky muni to go out and clean up and fix up and maintain the parks . Problem solved

sandtown born a...

The best suggestion yet, have the trustees from the county jail (chain gang) cleaning up the park. Better yet I remember when people on welfare were required to work as janitors in schools etc. to get assistance, why aren't they cleaning up the parks for the free income??? That would help a lot with budget problems

margaritaville88

people on welfare were required to work as janitors in schools etc. to get assistance, why aren't they cleaning up the parks for the free income??? That would help a lot with budget problems... TRUE, SOO TRUE !!!

SamAdams

A staff of four (seasonally) doesn't sound like a lot, but it must be... I STILL see City workers wandering around at half speed (and that's generous), leaning against trucks, chatting with passers by, WATCHING each other work, etc. If I saw them hustling all the time, I'd have more sympathy. As it is, not so much.

Be that as it may, maybe summertime community service sentences ought to involve things like picking up trash in the parks, digging, weeding, filling in holes, etc. Why not?

Minuteman

These are qualified elected officials? They could be a little more professional, unless they are volunteers. Then we could overlook some of this juvenile behavior.

If the park needs maintenence, do like Americans used to do. Get the kids together with some of the grownups and head over there with rakes and tools and fix it. Take some trash bags for all the trash left there. Then put up a sign to let the uneducated know we take pride in our park. It'll take a Saturday morning to get it done. Those trashing it will see that it is being cared for. They might even join in keeping it up to standards. If it were my neighborhood park, I'd be there this weekend getting started. Unless it was against the law to spruce the place up. If the neighborhood keeps trashing it, then too bad, no park.

sandtown born a...

Excellent answer

T. A. Schwanger

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I am the one guilty of bringing the condition of Huron Park to the attention of City Commissioners during the course of the May 28th City Commission meeting. I did not intend to start WWIII.

There are at least two Little League teams using the park daily until July.

The last two years, there has been increased activity through neighborhood pickup games-an indication, perhaps, of our young adults getting out from behind the Xbox.

I spoke with one of the Little League coaches using Huron Park and the team is more than willing to help with improvements at the park.

In addition, I began a conversation with Team Depot (Home Depot) and the initial impression is they are very interested in taking on the Huron Park ball-field as one of their community fix up projects.

For commenters with Facebook, search Rejuvenate Sandusky sponsored by community members encouraging parks improvements via input, ideas and volunteer efforts.

T. A. Schwanger

VTX Rider

Thank you for all of your efforts. My wife and I have adopted a small area near Central Park that has been neglected for over 10 years. We also pick up trash in the park during the summer. This is where we live so we do what we can to keep it nice.

T. A. Schwanger

A tip of the hat to you and your wife. Thanks for all you do. If you need a hand, I can be reached at waterfrontwatch@aol.com

Tim

donutshopguy

VTX Rider,

It's sad when hardworking citizens have to clean up for the entitlement generations. It's alway somebody else's responsibility to be part of a community. It's their right to trash and destroy what ever they want. Just ask them.

wetsu

I agree, Minuteman. When communities were thriving it was considered intuitive to help maintain the facilities even if it simply involved picking up after yourself. How many parks, grounds and ball fields were constructed by volunteers decades ago? We know it was plenty. The fly in the ointment was the precedent set when the guy caught the devil for taking the initiative to mow some city grass a few years back (it was city property, right?). I realize that there are people who would likely volunteer but are fearful of some of the neighborhoods. I don't have a good answer for that.

gene44870

If its against the law ? well let me tell yea that the city does not have the right to tell homeowners to keep their property up , if the city dont keep theirs up . what is good for the goose is good for gander ,

lugnut2511

During the summer, Sandusky makes so much money from bed taxes and the tourist. They can atleast spend a little time and money for the young children of the city, so that they may go play at a park, instead of the middle of a street..Com'on Sandusky!

KnuckleDragger

Unfortunately, most of the money from bed tax comes from Perkins and goes to the county, because it is a county tax.

T. A. Schwanger

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Greetings KnuckleDragger:

Actually there is a 3 percent City of Sandusky Bed Tax and it stays right here in Sandusky.

Just Sayin IMHO

Get a chain gang out there. Get community servers out there. Get off the excuse highway and put these people to work. They are in jail because they took something precious from our community. Why shouldn't they give something back? There is always a solution to a problem. Our officials are too busy pointing fingers to actually FIND any solutions. Well, I just gave them two to work with. These politicians and public officials are really making me sick. Farrar was way out of line in her email. The stupidity lies with her.

Darkhorse

We are still collecting income tax and that money goes towards some maintenance. It seems that if the foundations are supporting a park, they get what they ask for in money and maintenance, but another park that hasn't been adopted by a foundation gets nothing, no mainteance or money. All of a sudden we have money and time to put into a foundation park but no time and money for a smaller park that no one cares about.

T. A. Schwanger

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I am the one guilty of bringing the condition of Huron Park to the attention of City Commissioners during the course of the May 28th City Commission meeting. I did not intend to start WWIII.

There are at least two Little League teams using the park daily until July.

The last two years, there has been increased activity through neighborhood pickup games-an indication, perhaps, of our young adults getting out from behind the Xbox.

I spoke with one of the Little League coaches using Huron Park and the team is more than willing to help with improvements at the park.

In addition, I began a conversation with Team Depot (Home Depot) and the initial impression is they are very interested in taking on the Huron Park ball-field as one of their community fix up projects.

For commenters with Facebook, search Rejuvenate Sandusky sponsored by community members encouraging parks improvements via input, ideas and volunteer efforts.

T. A. Schwanger

ladydye_5

That is just it, people LOVE to complain and point fingers. But, sadly they are also the ones that want everything done for them, not by them. I see it all the time where I live too. Everyone has something to say but do not want to actually DO it. Point a finger and make someone else do it.

LifeIsCrazy

Maybe I'm missing something, but AMVETS fields aren't kept up that well either.

This city needs to get it together for their youth. It's no wonder kids don't get outside to do things anymore...

T. A. Schwanger

The Amvets park is on of the "priority use" fields where Amvets takes care of the park in exchange for first priority use of the field for games/practice. When Amvets is not using the field, the public can.

T. A. Schwanger

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As of 3pm today, the infield was dragged by City crews. Thanks City crews.

gene44870

And as far as Julie Farrar is concerned , if she wants to get things done , she could if she wanted to bad enough , she got elected didnt she ?
She needs to take more intrest in the way Sandusky Looks and stop sitting there telling us that the city is short staffed and can not keep up with what the city is required to do .
You have a responsablity to the residents of Sandusky to find a way to get things done that need to be done , and if you cant , Step down and let someone in that can
For to many years city members have blow smoke in the faces of the very tax payers that place their trust in the city to do the things that need to be done , and now its time to step up to the plate and do what your elected to do and if you can not , then step down .
You have kids all around the city as wella s people that owe court cost that would be willing to go out and work off the money owed and if I recall there was something directed at Sandusky Muni court about not placeing people in jail that cannot afford to pay , Now you have the answer right in front of you that would be a good deal for everyone .Not only that but maybe it would stop repeat offenders from reoffending at the same time .

OnlyfoolsAssume

Ok. 1. First rule of good finance if you don't have money don't spend money, which the city is broke around 60% of the city does not pay taxes so of course the city if broke. 2. Deidre Cole is on welfare and there is unable to support herself, so how is she making decisions for an entire city? 3. It would be nice to have a nice ballpark for the children so why not have Erie County Inmates and or able Bodied Social Security Recipients put in a few hours each a month to maintain the parks. Sounds fair since those of us who do pay taxes support them

KnuckleDragger

So you are suggesting that we put elderly people to work on the parks (Social Security). Most SS recipients are elderly, and most don't consider SS as being welfare since you pay into it over your working years. Now if you mean, non-working baby mama's collecting a check for being nothing more than a reproduction vessel, by all means. If they are working, they will have less time to lay on their backs and produce more future welfare recipients.

santown419

Or maybe people who sit online and make up jobs they dont have instead throw out jabs help out.

OnlyfoolsAssume

And gene44870, they can no longer enforce court fine warrant so there is no incentive to work off court costs

OnlyfoolsAssume

warrant's*

LadyC

How about offering residents tax breaks for cleaning up or maintaining property belonging to the city? They could have a trustee, commissioner, or supervisor to post a list of things needed to be done, monthly. Then people could sign up and on completion of the work, get x number of dollars towards their city tax liability. It would be great for those with back taxes owed and not enough income to catch them up.

lifetimeresident

Was this the Cliff Schirg Park they are talking about?

God Of Thunder

Yes...By the city greenhouse. Not sure why they got away from that name.

I think it would be awesome to see these inmates and convicts out there working instead of sitting in the air conditioned jail. Not only in the city but throughout the county. As far as having welfare recipients do this work, the city has no control over this, although I like the idea..

sandtown born a...

My mom lives in a town that was recently struck by a f2 tornado guess who was picking up the debris and carrying the cut up trees???? COUNTY JAIL INMATES up there you do the crime they have trash on the xpress ways to pick up

anti-sanduskian

This is why the sports in this town stink. Places like Huron, Bellevue, Fremont all have facilities or nice ball parks for the kids. What happened to that 'so called" Legends Park that was suppose to come to the area??? Why is it that smaller communities all have nice rec centers, but Sandusky doesn't have these things??? We wonder why people keep leaving the area to move to other places that offer their children an opportunity at a better life. Sports in Sandusky use to mean something, but in the last 20 years or so it has become a punchline to a joke. It truly is laughable to see what is going on in this city and it's past time to change it. Look at this city's leadership and start there. Hell, the city manager is from out of state.

VTX Rider

There really is no need for you to comment on any article. Your screen name appropriately describes exactly how you feel about the city of Sandusky. Frankly, I love living here.

Have a nice day :)