Fox appeal, more suits to follow

Fred Fox's legal battle to be reinstated to his position as superintendent at Huron Schools is just getting started.
Register
Apr 4, 2013

 

His attorney, Patrick Murray, says he'll file an appeal of the school board's Tuesday decision to fire Fox — and at least three other lawsuits.

"By ignoring the findings of the referee, they simply said they're not going to abide by anyone's objective findings," Murray said. "We're filing multiple lawsuits, for mental anguish, bad faith, defamation and others as a result of their actions."

Fox has 30 days from the time he receives the written termination notice to file an appeal.

"They're on a frolic of their own and don't care a thing about the school system," Murray said. "What you have here are three people who are willing to spend any amount of school money to get even. And they're going to lose."

For more on Murray's reaction, his opinion of the school board, and his plans to duke it out in court, pick up Friday's Register. 

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Comments

4-wheeler al

whos pockets is going too pay for this mess.

Julie R.

Dry up, Murray. Go retire or something.

google me

Great example of the true Fred Fox.

princedenny

How well do you know Fred? Have you worked under/with him? Have you spoken with him at length on any subject matter? My guess is NO, you haven't done either.

If I was in his shoes, I would do the same thing...and imagine you would as well. Put your name on here and I'd be happy to google you.

There you go again

Have you read the board's decision report? I was embarassed for Fox. And he thought he was going to get away with all that mess? Ha ha ha.

Kelly

Good for him!

UgtaBkdnMe

Hey Mr. Murray, would your family members,who sit on area school boards, sound like Asher and Caporini or the three stooges if given a similiar situation? I'd bet they wouldn't tolerate it.

bobshumway92

I hate lawyers.

Elemenopy

Who doesn't. The sad part is lawyers tend to be intelligent individuals as a whole. If only they had decided to do something PRODUCTIVE with their lives and talent.

NotYourAverageF...

Price Denny - I have an close family member who has worked with Fred Fox. I do know Fred Fox. I have spoken with Fred Fox. His shoes are rotten. His morals are Rotten. His level of concern for any child, administrator, parent or taxpayer in the City of Huron is not there. He has proven that over and over. He cares about nothing but himself. The Crap lawsuits prove it.

clementine

Spot on!

wiredmama222

why is anyone surprised by this? Did you just expect him to go quietly off somewhere and admit defeat when the State said "reinstate him"? This was no surprise to many people outside of Huron, but obviously to those IN Huron. LOL, this won't be over for some time to come and will be the "hot topic" in your town for some time to come. The term "hot Huron" won't refer to your real estate anymore, it will refer to your BOE and Fred Fox's many lawsuits over the next several years, many of which he will win through either out of court settlements or in court victory by jury trial. It may not be for fortunes, but the man sure has enough fuel for his fires just be using the postings off these boards. LOL. What mess the BOE handed him to use in their own demise. All unnecessary just to "get him". I guess the term "enough already" isn't in their vocabularies.

Huron_1969

Only you would think postings on a blog could be used as fuel for his law suits. I truly hope the comments about your interest in running for public office are just silly conjecture

wiredmama222

Huron....what possible difference could it make to you if I ran for something in Sandusky. You don't live there anyway, so it has NOTHING to do with you. At least I know enough not to do dumb things like your BOE does. I would expect such a comment from you!

As for the comments on here be advantagous for a suit. (I refer you back to the attorney letter to the administration and teachers).

The comments definitely show the CLIMATE AND LEANINGS of people in your fair town. They definitely do. And if that is the true way people feel over in Huron, expect to get sued. After all, the mob mentality of this entire matter got what they wanted, now be prepared to reap the wind.

And after the last two days, I must be right, as suits have been filed, have they not? What did you all expect? For him to run and hide?

Huron_1969

1) neighboring communities do effect each other. 2) show me one time where blogs were used in a lawsuit where the authors remained anonymous. 3) the Climate demonstrates many people expect conduct from a public servant and leader to be morally and ethically appropriate while on the job. 4) anyone can file a lawsuit.... our country is overloaded with them

clementine

The State did not say "reinstate him". This was just one man's opinion. If you would join me in reading the many, many pages provided to the public, you would certainly change your mind as I did. The best thing for this town would be for Mr. Fox to join his like kind in a burrow. You're correct - enough already is not in the vocabulary Mr. Fox uses. His actions and lack of common sense caused this. His demeanor, his poor ethical decisions and his inability to admit his wrong speak volumes about who this man has become. I wish him the best, but not here in Huron.

wiredmama222

@ clementine. Had the State agreed with your BOE instead of Mr. Fox, you would all have been elated and said they had the right idea, isn't that true? Instead, they did NOT agree with your BOE and now they don't know what they are talking about. They didn't understand and they got it wrong. I read the report they sent to Huron.

The statement I read from the state said to give him back his job and let him finish out his contract and give him his back pay. I sincerely do not know how many ways that can be taken except to return him to his job.

Your board chose not to accept it. That is their right to ignore what the State says. HOWEVER, why bother to even ASK the State if you don't intend to do what their independent research tells you? Because it didn't agree with what the board wanted to do, isn't that right??? Yes! That's fine, but when you go against the State's findings for the reason's the state says, then don't expect NOT to get sued in the process. Emotion cannot dictate over reason. That has been my point all along.

That is what has been wrong with this all the way. You cannot make charges based on emotion, religion and theory like this. You cannot use those ideas to fire someone. And they way this was handled was not done the right way. Not from day one. From what I read from the state, they certainly agreed with my ideas. Sorry, that is just the way it is. When you hold down a position on ANY board, you leave your emotions at the door and stay neutral. You guide with your HEAD and not your HEART. That's all I am saying....you cannot afford to lead with your heart, it makes bad mistakes even worse. Sorry....just saying.

whazup

In all fairness, the board did not ask for the referee. Fred Fox had a right to a hearing and HE chose the opinion of a referee, which BOTH parties knew would be nonbinding. He had the right to a hearing and this is the type that HE chose. If the finding would have been in favor of the board and they fired him, he still had the right to, and in my opinion would have, sue the district. He knew that the 3 board members had enough to fire him and chose the path that would allow him to sue regardless.

whocares

When is Murray & Murray going to find the Conseco Insurance bandit

Lissa4u

If the school board wants him out that badly, why would he still want to work there?

Darkhorse

Where is the Ethics Committee in all this? Have they not ruled by now? I don't know where they got that refree at but he was way off base.

xtensionofme

I wish Fox would just go somewhere that he's wanted, like another state, country or planet. He's about the biggest waste of air I've ever encountered. He had NO real interest in the children he was being paid to oversee, only in the money they could bring him. Thank goodness he was fired!

queenjhb

just because you can sue , doesnt mean you should. Fred do you care about Huron? Drop it , let everyone heal, Huron doesnt need you.......

Retiree

I hope that this get to court very soon. I am tired of hearing what Fred's future plans were that got sidetracked. Fox wanted Ms. Vonthone removed from her position and was going to replace her with the principle of Fremont Elementary School. He was putting to many miles on his truck.

Darwin's choice

Please stop drinking from the round porcelin fixture in the bathroom before you post on here.

wiredmama222

Gee, retiree.....I don't remember reading that or hearing that anywhere in anything thus far? Where did that information come from? Did you get that information from somewhere recently? Wow, the SR even missed that little tidbit of information in every story that printed. Man, I never heard that one in the amost YEAR of this entire mess. You should write stories for the SR with your information gathering abilities. I hope you can prove that one. Just saying.....wow

BooBeeDoo'

Retiree. Where did you get your information about Fred wanting Ms. Vonthron removed from the principal's position to hire the Fremont principal. That is the first I've heard of that and I personally know both. Why do you make up stories to stoke the fire?

whazup

It makes as much sense as the conspiracy theory that your boy Kevin filed in October. At least Retiree isn't filing his story in the court system.

Huron parent 1st

Obvious that the students are not important to the lawyers......I am sure they will come up with BS about defending the rights of Fox, or whoever.......and any money that is awarded, the lawyers will get most of it. If Fred Foxcared about the kids, he would move on, find a job where he can help kids....he won't

doc5798a

Remember the Huron Water Festival. Same type of situation, just a different arena, with different players.

takeastand

Hey Fred come on over to Margaretta. Rather have you than Ed Kurt and his good ole boys!

Hoss McGee

I 2nd that idea!

james4

It is all about the money! Fred says "Show me the money" Thats all it has ever been about and thats what it will come down to. It has never been about the kids. He could care less!!! What a low down shame!

Gardenman

I have a brother who is an attorney in and specializes in labor law. Talked to him over the weekend. He said there is nothing brought to date that is grounds for termination. Said absolutely for non renewal of a contract but not termination of the current contract.

I asked him how do you think this will play out. He said my best idea it will go to the Common Pleas court and it will be settled before it ever makes it to trial. The insurance company will make that decision as Board has no choice in the matter. It will purely what the bottom line is going to cost the insurance company. Said they will not win the case so they will try and keep the payments to a minimum. I said so in the end Fred Fox and his attorney laugh all the way to the bank with settlement checks. He said you got it !!! He said this whole thing was never handled right from the very beginning. Said I would not be surprised at all if the Board D & O insurer cancels them at the end of the policy. They may be hard pressed finding another insurar and if they do it will be costly based on their track record to date.

So guess will see if my brother calls this one correct.

wiredmama222

@Gardenman....I rest my case. This is exactly what I have been saying since this thing started. Tell your brother I said thank you very much. My vote is with HIS comments as well. He couldn't be more right about anything in his life. Kate

The Answer Person

GIT'EM!

mikel

$$chaaaaaaaaaaa--chinggggggggggggggg$$ or $$moneyyyyyy moneyyyyyyy moneyyyyyyyy$$

either way freddie boy is gonna get some!!!!

Retiree

Your brother's name Kevin?

whazup

You read my mind!

Retiree

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Retiree

All Fred will probably get out of this is jail. It is against the law to steal from taxpayers, steal a school bus, steal tools from a garage, threaten a person, intimidate people, illegal use of school funds, perjury, and most of all he is disloyal. Get it through your thick head he is gone. Like good-by

Still Sold

Retiree
Thu, 04/04/2013 - 8:29pm
I hope that this get to court very soon. I am tired of hearing what Fred's future plans were that got sidetracked. Fox wanted Ms. Vonthone removed from her position and was going to replace her with the principle of Fremont Elementary School. He was putting to many miles on his truck.

Going to continue to post this to show how absurd your thinking is.

Julie R.

One would think if a school board starting getting numerous complaints from teachers and others about the conduct of a school superintendent, then it would be the school board's obligation to investigate the complaints --- which obviously they did.

That's why it will be interesting to see how this pans out in the Erie County Common Pleas court.

pavedparadise

All elected officials whether they be local, state or school boards should be open to recall.

wiredmama222

@paved....aren't they? But that won't stop the mess now.

Julie R.

Murray says: "Sowecke, Slocum and Green are on a frolic of their own and don't care a thing about the school system. What you have here are 3 people who are willing to spend any amount of school money to get even. And they're going to lose."

My, he certainly does sound like he has a lot of confidence, doesn't he? Sort of reminds me of that arrogant Lorain County attorney that said: "Face it, Lady! That property's getting sold at a sheriff sale if you like it or not and there isn't a (*expletive*) thing you can do about it!"

wiredmama222

@Julie, I love you dearly, girl, but he has great reason to sound so sure of himself. He has a great deal of evidence with which to win his cases. When these people started dealing in emotions rather than with fact and let that take over, their collective goose was cooked. You cannot do what they did. Two wrongs don't make a right no matter what happened.

You said you thought they should have investigated the complaints. Did they? It sounds like they didn't do much investigating until it was on an emotional level. Till emotions ran high. Until a board member was involved. THEN they got involved really heavily.

If the board thought he wss out of line, they should have done this the right way from day one. Instead they tried the "humiliation" technique and they were lost from the word go. I have been saying that from the first day. The State Board said the same thing. When you attack and do it wrong like this, you just plain lose. I am not defending what Fox did. Not by a long shot. But I am defending the difference between handling things the right way verses the wrong way.

You, above all people, should understand my point on that one. Ya know? This board is now going to pay the biggest price of all. It is they who didn't think of the kids nor what it will cost this school in the long run. Not as long as they got what they wanted. When you go the wrong way, you always lose.

I feel bad for the kids of Huron. This was totally unnecessary. I hope the price of causing this guy humiliation was worth the price of admission to this farce. The board had to know they would get sued when they fired him and ignored the State recommendations. They simply didn't care. They stripped him naked and kept kicking him when he was down. What more could they expect?

What ever happened to that ethics report? That should have been back by now? They should have it. What did that ever say? You know sooner or later that one will have to be released as well. What happens if that one proves to side with him, too?

Still Sold

You are correct WiredM..

No doubt that this was not handled correctly.

SoldOnAcorns

You sure do have a woody for this & you do not reside in Huron ? I'm sure the people of Huron could care less about your opinion on the matter. My Lord go play with your grandchildren or do something a little more productive with your time. In short, get a life there Queen of Blog land !

Still Sold

Is that you Sit n Spin ?
Stop stealing my psuedonems..

Julie R.

@ Gardenman: A bunch of complaints from teachers about a school superintendent, including, but not limited to, the principal of the elementary school complaining that the superintendent was sullying her reputation in an attempt to make people think he was having an affair with her to cover-up an extra-marital affair he was having with the principal of another school district, would certainly go under the heading of creating a hostile work environment, don't you think?

So your attorney brother, who specializes in labor law, doesn't think it would be the duty of the school board to investigate that? No offense, but I don't think your attorney brother knows what he's talking about.

BooBeeDoo'

Retiree. Where did you get your information about Fred wanting Ms. Vonthron removed from the principal's position to hire the Fremont principal. That is the first I've heard of that and I personally know both. Why do you make up stories to stoke the fire? I see you have no answer.

Retiree

Fox had a choice to have a referee, a person who's decision means nothing, or an arbitrator, whose decision is binding. The sly Fox looked at it both ways. If the referee ruled against him, he would be saying his decision, the referee's decision did not mean anything. Since the referee decision was in his favor, they are all crying he should be reinstated. He wasn't sure how an arbitrator would rule so he picked the referee. Remember, Fox kept saying that " the meeting" with the referee, will be open to the public'. There was no way on earth that meeting was going to be open to the public. That was proven at the last minute. None of the Fox supporter were in the hallway prior to the announcement that the meeting was closed. The sly Fox and his group knew all along.

Fox knew that he will never be hired back. His intention from the start was a lawsuit. All he wants is the free money. He knew he wasn't going to be rehired. His group wants you to believe that he wants to go to court. Do you really believe he has a chance of getting his job back with all the corruption that has happened since his hiring? The school board should have an auditor come in and inspect the books over the last eight years. I would imagine that audit would be very interesting.

Still Sold

Retiree
Thu, 04/04/2013 - 8:29pm
I hope that this get to court very soon. I am tired of hearing what Fred's future plans were that got sidetracked. Fox wanted Ms. Vonthone removed from her position and was going to replace her with the principle of Fremont Elementary School. He was putting to many miles on his truck.

As usual, Retiree. Your version of the truth.

partyboy

You are just a fool.. making those remarks..whether they are scarcasm or not..that is the kind of BS that fuels the fire. Huron needs to rebuild. Stop the childish behavior. There is nobody that is a saint and that includes Vonthron...she seems like a women scorned..after all the superintendent has done for her...I think there is a hidden agenda that everyone is afraid to comment about because of her stuation..It is what it is! Really she is in the same building as the super.. how could he use her as an excuse to see the other women..that is juist absurd to imagine that...come on be realistic.

whazup

You only come out of the woodwork when the mistress is mentioned. Whazup with that? Maybe Retiree is being sarcastic but your comments about Vonthron aren't any better, actually worse. And whazup with your your other women statement? Are you saying the former Fremont principal wasn't the only one? Maybe she's the one who's scorned.

whazup

Here's another thought. When she recently applied for a principal position in the area, what reason did she give for leaving her other job? Was is that she was screwed out of it???????

partyboy

What principal position? That's interesting. Speak about nasty comments..that was not nice. Why so bitter? What difference does it make to you when I comment?

UgtaBkdnMe

There is no comparison of these two women. One behaved in a commendable way while the other in a disgraceful manner. One has integrity while the other lacks it. You're the one who sounds bitter. Whazup is just funny !

partyboy

UgtaBKdMe..you are clueless...LOL Who are you to judge the actions of others? You don't have any idea what goes on in people lives...but quick to judge..I ageee whazup is amusing...to people with a sick sense of humor. Peace

Julie R.

That didn't answer the question. I'm curious to know where that information about "Fox wanting to remove Vonthron from the principal's position to hire the Fremont principal" came from, too.

Still Sold

Julie R-
It came from Retiree and his friend's imaginations.

Funny, he never talks about the football coach ?
And we all want high morals, right ?

whazup

How many years ago was that? Why didn't your good friend Cap take care of that one? Wasn't your spouse on the board then?

Retiree

Why talk about the football coach. I never saw anything in the paper about the football coach. I do know that his players like him and his teams win for Huron. I do know what was said about the relationship with two school board members,the coaches, his son and Fox was not the truth.

The last sentence, about the miles on the truck, was a little dig. I am sticking with the other comments. I do not really care if you don't believe what you call "my version of the truth". I do not tell half of the truth to make someone look good. What I know happened is what I print. To many people on these blogs need to know the real story. Certain people on the blogs are not telling the truth. I did look into what Julie was printing about, in previous blogs, and she is telling the truth. There was big time corruption. That is one reason I dislike attorneys. The judge sided with the attorney, the same one that was representing ErieMetro Parks. Need I say more.

Even though I don't live in Huron, I have rental property there. The tenants that do live there, three of them work for the schools. I am disappointed to see how my tax dollars were miss used under Fox. I did look into what Fox created and it is ugly. The three school board members are going to win. They discovered the corruption. The other two have a lot of skeletons in their closets and that is going to get ugly.

Julie R.

Lord Almighty, Retiree, where in the heck are you coming from, anyway? All the idiots I post about are from HURON, OHIO and you know it!

Julie R.

Hey Retiree, I didn't see any judges at the corrupt Erie County courthouse ~ as you say ~ siding with attorneys. I witnessed instead judges and a joke magistrate working in collusion with attorneys. (*collusion: secret agreement or cooperation, especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose)

Doesn't Ohio Law flatly prohibit that kind of illegal crap?