Huron school board tables Fox vote

No reinstatement tonight.
Sandusky Register Staff
Mar 19, 2013

After nearly 90 minutes of anticipation, the Huron school board declined on Monday to make a decision whether to reinstate fired district superintendent Fred Fox. 

The board vote was 3-2 in favor of tabling the motion. 

Audience members spoke for about 55 minutes before the vote was taken, including Kalahari owner Todd Nelson.

Check back here for updates and for video of the meeting. 

Be sure to pick up Wednesday's Register for the full story on the meeting and to read more on what Fox's supporters and detractors had to say. Also in Thursday's Register: A story on the budget crisis just on the horizon for Huron Schools.

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Comments

SCatri

Unlike you, I don't need to hide behind a screen name. You tried to intimidate me back in the summer and you are trying to do so, again. Go back and read the numerous emails and documents that my employer gave you. I did nothing wrong and everything was handled correctly. Your little group has tried to intimidate Mr. Slocum with lies just like you are trying to discredit me. I don't say anything in public that I can't support with valid documents. Mr. Caporini did not shake me one bit and neither do you. You should be careful because you, sir, could be charged with libel.

Still Sold

Ouch..

When you say certain things certain people get their nerve touched.. lol

I didn't connect the two statements, but you sure did.

I really don't know why you would be intimidated by anything that I say that isn't true ?

SCatri

There is nothing to connect. I was the yearbook advisor and you are simply just trying to tarnish my reputation. Like I told you at a previous board meeting, please continue investigating my work history. You will only make me more credible in the eyes of this community. I do not intend to comment anymore on this forum. Hopefully those who are reading this will get a clearer picture of how far you will go.

Still Sold

Also Ms. Catri-
If anything I say that you do not agree with and feel it is liblous you will find that because you can censure it by hitting the INNAPROPRIATE button, that I cannot be found libel.

If you feel that strongly about any of my comments, please feel free to dispute them, but please don't act like you have no recourse.

Still Sold

Now switch back to your screenname and jump on your own bandwagon.

UgtaBkdnMe

You are lower than I thought ! WTH, because someone can dispute your comment, you can't be libel ?

Still Sold

It's right there UGttaBe-
Look down. INNAPPROPRIATE

You always have the right to deem something INNAPPROPRIATE

Then it's up to the Register to decide.

I really have nothing personally against you. You have your opinion and I have mine.

Type on !

UgtaBkdnMe

Here's a thought. Stop being a jerk !

UgtaBkdnMe

Ms. Catri,

Keep up the good work and don't back down. It is apparent that you have exposed some secrets and with Mr. Caporini's reaction last night, you could tell that he was worried. These crooks need to answer for what they have done !

Still Sold

Thanks, Dad !

Tsu Dho Nimh

Do you have any clue how foolish you sound? What do you not understand? The district has been using Huron Cement for years selling field marker, drywall, paint, gravel, a load of cement here and there - items that do not fall under a bid. The district had an open account until Asher put the kibosh on it. He actually did Mr. Sowecke a favor. He certainly does not have to worry about years of possibly breaking the ethics laws. As Ugta told you, check with your sources at the board office.

OldTiger

I worked for huron cement for several years. While building Hurons weight room, I donated my time to pour foundation on a saturday and Huron Cement charged at cost and Donated materials. WHile working there over the years Ive wittnesed John Caporini support Huron Schools on many projects. I believe John is still there to support the schools.

Still Sold

I agree with OldTiger.

And I agree with TDN.

What part don't you people get ? If it is not a bid job and they are not the low bidder it is not legal to sell to sell to the schools if you are a board of education member.

Under the definition of this law Huron Cement, ACE and Asher Bros are all affected. Even if the board member just worked there it's a problem.

It's not fair, (in MY OPINION), but it's the law.

They CAN sell to the district if they are LOW BIDDER on a BID JOB.

If Huron Cement has been selling directly to the schools and are not the low bidder then they are in violation of a conflict of interest.

I'm not arguing with you acorns.

In MY OPINION, within the rules/laws there are ways that board member's businesses CAN LEGALLY SELL TO THE SCHOOLS, but they are strict.

Once again I say to you: If Huron Cement has sold directly to the Huron City Schools and did not do it because they are the low bidder then there is most likely a 'conflict of interest'.

Same applies to ACE, but Huron Cement sells concrete and drywall, etc.. to contractors who work on the schools. When ACE sells to a contractor who then uses the purchase to work on the schools then there is no problem.

It's simple.

Huron Cement also carts the pallots to the school for the homecoming bonfires, but just because they give to the schools does not allow them to sell to the school.

Is this plain enough ?

Still Sold

Just because Asher and Caporini support Fred Fox and I support Fred Fox does not mean I support any one of them breaking a law.

Do not get it twisted as this whole 'conflict of interest' conversation is completely off topic, but I do not want to be known as someone who blindly supports anyone or anything.

If you look long and hard enough you're always going to find something wrong.

This whole conversation falls more into the treasurer's lap then the superintendent's anyway.

It is just not legal for a board member to 'gain' from the sale of anything to the school.

It doesn't matter if I think it's fair, or not.

Simple.

Don Hardy

Believe it or not I dont read the blogs on here, because I dont waste my time.. But tonight I am wasting my time. I watched the video from last night. It was hard to understand what was said, but i really dont care anyways.

about the Huron Cement ordeal, I work there, yes John is my boss, no we do not talk about Fred Fox, because quite frankly I made it known that If i attend a board meeting (which i wont) and i step to the mic, I want answers. Pretty simple..

About Huron Cements involvement. The school hires the lowest bid contractor for any work (sidewalks or whatever concrete work needs to be done). Then the contractor calls the supplier they wish to use.. Huron Cement has not always been that supplier. I think another company did the curbs around the stadium for the field. Long story short. It is up to the contractor to choose the supplier not Huron City Schools... . Huron City Schools is paying the Contractor for the work. Like in all jobs. If we land a job say at cedar point. Cedar point is not paying us, its the contractor who is paying for the material, Cedar Point is paying the Contractor for the work.. Thats how that works, and to my knowledge is not in violation..

This is my one and only post. I just wanted that to be known :)

My views on the Fox ordeal.. Im not smart enough to know whats right or whats wrong with what he did. I do know that Miss VonThron and Mr Legando are respected employees of the school system, rather you agree or disagree with their opinon is all up to you. I get along with both of them just fine, then again I got along with Mr Fox just fine.

As far as my connection with the schools is pretty well known.. And my thing is all about the students.. Thats the only reason Im even connected to HHS.. Enjoy your arguements. I read about 10 of them.. Now I'm signing off... Have a nice day :)

Still Sold

As Don Hardy said:
'Long story short. It is up to the contractor to choose the supplier not Huron City Schools'...

Although if Don Hardy became a school board member could Huron Cement sell to the school district if John Caporini was not on the board ?

I don't think so.

Fair ? Not really. IN MY OPINION !

Still Sold

And as for Ms. Catri:

You are on a mission. It's great !
So am I. I want what is best for the Huron City Schools.
Simple.

I will no longer bring up what the Huron Board of Education has done wrong in this debacle.

I will only comment when the rest of the state of Ohio decides whether Fred Fox has done wrong, or not.

You all want to argue even if I only said the sky is blue.

This all could have been handled better and involves many agendas and many personalities. You're all right and wrong in your own ways. So am I.

I do not believe Fred Fox compromised his job.

The affair is between him and his family. If it caused him to do his job differently how come NO ONE said that under oath when testifying ?

It's a simple question.

When the state comes up with a decision I'll be the first one to say if I was right or wrong. Something, unfortunately some of you cannot grasp.

I think you all think you're right, but I'm not certain you will admit to your motivation.

got.integrity

Still Sold...
Have you not read any of the supporting testimony? How can you say-
"I do not believe Fred Fox compromised his job."

See the portion of the brief pulled from the testimony of Tanny, John and Freddie! Tanny and John testified he was "distracted" Freddie's emails/texts to his "mentee" indicate he was "doing stupid things". When you are sitting at your desk waiting for a phone call from your girl friend-chances are business is NOT getting done which equals a compromise of duties.

This brief also disputs your claim that "If it caused him to do his job differently how come NO ONE said that under oath when testifying ?"
see below...
Records show that during the period from August 2010 until May 2011, using the district’s e-mail system, Fox exchanged more than 250 personal e-mails with Diana McNulty, an administrator in the Fremont school district. Often there were several e-mails per day. (Bd. 3, Bd. 4) This continued for months, sometimes three or four days per week. Sometimes the emails
would be exchanged every couple of hours throughout a work/school day (e.g., on 8-30-2010, Fox sent 7 e-mails to her between 10:40 a.m. and 2:51 p.m.; on 9-1-2010, Fox sent 8 emails between 8:25 a.m. and 3:01 p.m.) Fox admits the accuracy of the dates and times of the emails shown on the spreadsheet (Bd. 3), which are drawn from the actual e-mails, copies of
which are provided in Bd. 4. (T. 20-21)
It is beyond question that these e-mails were sent in pursuit of a personal
relationship with the woman. (T. 22, Fox testified: “I would say that we had a private, discreet relationship. As a married man it was inappropriate”; also see, e.g., Bd. 4, p. B00415 “call me whenever baby”)
The record shows that Fox’s distraction with the relationship he was pursuing through these e-mails affected the district. It was during this period that Ruf noticed a power vacuum in district leadership because of Fox’s absences and inconsistencies. (T. 1045-1046, 1048-1049, 1068-1069)
16 Also unquestionably, the time devoted to drafting and reading these e-mails between himself and McNulty was a distraction from time that Fox should have been devoting to his job responsibilities. Moreover, the e-mails show that the distraction was not limited to Fox’s writing. Dozens of the emails discussed previous phone calls, arranged or asked for future phone calls, and arranged meetings. As a small sampling of those, see the following e-mails generated by Fox just during the period from August 25 to September 30, 2010 (Bd. 4):
2010-Aug. 25 10:58 B00009 soon, I will call you on your cell
2010-Aug. 27 8:21 B00019 what time will you leave Fremont
2010-Aug. 27 8:45 B00022 could I meet you to buy you a drink? Some where
2010-Aug. 30 2:23 B00036 Call
2010-Aug. 30 2:38 B00039 Can you call at 3:15
2010-Aug. 31 3:46 B00052 how about a glass of wine tonight around 6:40? I'll buy. Kalahari … (Response from McNulty: “would luv it!”)
2010-Sept. 1 8:59 B00057 you looked good last night
2010-Sept. 1 11:17 B00068 need to talk later
2010-Sept. 1 1:46 B00071 left you a voicemail
2010-Sept. 1 3:01 B00078 a good time to talk is about 3:45 … I will call you .. I will always call you sometime
2010-Sept. 1 1:52 B00085 call me when you get a chance, I left you a text
2010-Sept. 7 9:41 B00107 I am sorry for your voicemail
2010-Sept. 7 9:49 B00109 … you are making me do stupid things
2010-Sept. 7 10:07 B000112 love to talk
2010-Sept. 7 12:53 B00111 I will wait at my desk. 419-433-1626

So sold can you offer similar FACT or just more mud slinging to distract everyone?

Tsu Dho Nimh

Oh no! You have evidence! Are you Ms. Catri?

Still Sold

Why don't you post like that, TDN ?

You know who Ms. Catri is. It really doesn't matter who is who and what is what as people in town have formed their opinions in many ways and this mess is going to be around for years to come.

Still Sold

Once again-
Great post and full of information actually pertaining to the subject.

I am 'on record' here saying that 'the affair' is not my problem, but is the problem of Fred Fox and his family.

Fred Fox works 24/7 and if he took a break to write/receive email he is entitled to that break.

You know, (as you have obviously read some of the 2700+ pages), that there are PLENTY of examples, under oath, that say Fred Fox's job was not affected by 'the affair'.

I'm not going to post them, but anyone who has read the documents knows this.

And no 1969, (my morals policeman), I'm not condoning 'the affair', but I am saying it's none of my business.

got.integrity

Still Sold
My post is referring to your statement that the affair did not compromise his job. Those testifying that it did not affect his job were Weis (who has personal and professional reasons to see this fiasco work out in favor of Fred you know because he is the MONEY man that also voted on abatements) and Fred's secretary who is less than credible, a gossip and incompetant at best. She too has a personal and professional interest in seeing Fred come out on top. (no pun intended)

I guess Fred would have to work 24/7 to get anything done when he was texting, emailing and calling his girlfriend most of his work day. BUT keep in mind, in the education setting, unlike the business setting, it is difficult to get much "work" done outside of "school hours". Fred's job involved overseeing the employees, buildings and grounds, and educational programming. Hard to do that after school!

Still Sold

Got.-
What do you know of Fred Fox's assistant and why the cheap shots thrown at her ?

Fred Fox's job NEVER only encompasses the 'school day'. If you REALLY knew what you were talking about you would know that Fred Fox is in the office well after the school day ends and his day starts well before the start of the school day. You must be talking about how Mr. Fernbaugh does his job ?

Meetings, board meetings, etc take place after 'school hours' and if you really thought about it you would know that after 'school hours' is the best time to hold a meeting as school is not in session, or in conflict of school employee jobs.

You obviously are close to this issue as your homework is pretty substantial. Do you have personal and professional reasons to see Fred Fox not come back to work ?

got.integrity

Why the cheap shots thrown at the assistant? Because I have no respect for people who change their story to suit their own needs, seems she has a lot in common with her former boss.

I am aware that many meetings take place outside of the school day but for most sup'ts it is in addition to the time spent during school hours not instead of like Fred. In addition, I am not saying he wasn't AT work during school hours...he just wasn't WORKING!

And yes I do have personal and professional reasons to see Fred not come back to work! I have students in the district, I pay taxes in the district and I have integrity and morals and expect the same from my sup't.

Tsu Dho Nimh

You make cheap shots at the principal who came forward but are offended when something is said about Fox's assistant. How rich!

Still Sold

Acorn (TDN),
Point out a cheap shot I've thrown at ANY principal.

Cut and paste it at the end so I see it.

Tsu Dho Nimh

Here is an instant replay for you, Sold...

"Guess she forgot that Fred Fox gave her that first job. I really don't blame her for standing up and speaking. By doing that no one in their right mind would ever try to get rid of her because it would appear to be retaliation.

Tanny is sharp !"

Still Sold

lol..
It's a compliment, not a cheap shot.

How many times do I have to commend Tanny VonThron on her political savvy ?

whazup

I don't see your comment as a compliment. You are saying she spoke to protect herself. I say she spoke because she wanted the truth to be known.

nobodyfromnowhere

Ok Im not Sold but the following are facts:
FACT: The Board failed to conduct the required evaluation of FOX since Oct. 2010.
Fact: The Huron School District has been rated Excellent of Excellent with Distinction for the past 3 years.
Fact: At the end of 2011 the District had approx $8,000,000 in the bank on a budget of $15,000,000
Fact: According to your numbers from Sept 2010 to May 2011 Fox sent an average of 1.3 e-mails (250 total) to McNulty per WORK day (193days).
Fact: According to the e-mails you provided from Aug. 25 2010 to Sept. 30 2010 he sent an average of .55 e-mails (15 total) per WORK day (27days)
Fact: The neutral referee, picked by both parties, found that "The District failed to offer any proof whatsoever to establish that the Superintendent did not preform his duties in an acceptable manner under the terms of his contract." (Referee's report Pg. 44)

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