'Free' counsel to Huron schools turns costly

Judge dismisses suit that stalled school district's payment to attorney in Fox probe.
Jessica Cuffman
Feb 17, 2013

 

 

An attorney’s promise to provide 10 free hours of service has turned into a $90,000 bill for Huron Schools.  
Erie County Common Pleas Court Judge Roger Binette this week dismissed a lawsuit that had kept Huron Schools from paying attorney Matt Markling for his work on the Fred Fox investigation.  
Early last year, the board voted 3-2 to hire Markling to investigate Fox’s alleged misdeeds, including his interactions with a district vendor and an extramarital affair on school time.  
After interviewing a number of district employees, Markling issued a 50-page report that concluded the board had substantial reason to fire Fox.   
Markling had told board members his first 10 hours of work would be free, and he would send a bill for any additional work. He kept his word — he submitted a $50,000 bill in June, followed by a $10,000 bill in July, $12,000 in October, $5,300 in November and $11,400 this past week. 
The Fox fiasco has effectively divided the school board, with the majority — Donna Green, Scott Slocum and Tim Sowecke — voting in June to fire Fox. 
The other two members, Kevin Asher 
and John Caporini, voted against the firing. 
The board ultimately suspended him without pay, pending the outcome of termination proceedings overseen by the Ohio Department of Education.   
Asher, however, also filed the lawsuit to keep the school district from paying Markling, but Binette quashed those efforts this week.  
Huron Schools treasurer Mike Weis said the district is mailing a $50,000 check to Markling. The board will then have to approve, or not, the additional $40,000 in expenses, since the district’s insurance company won’t foot the bill.
State education officials have already conducted termination hearings against Fox, but a hearing officer has yet to issue a recommendation to either fire or retain Fox. The board does not have to follow the advice. 
The days of hearings, held at Sawmill Creek, were closed to the public and spaced out over a period of months.  
The hearings addressed 23 alleged wrongdoings on Fox’s part, including three major allegations: Fox had an improper business relationship with a district vendor; he improperly sought reimbursements for a trip to Arizona; and he was involved in an extramarital affair on school time.
This past week, Binette also issued a key ruling in a defamation lawsuit Fox filed against Sowecke.
Fox alleges Sowecke delivered the Markling report to the Ohio Ethics Commission to intentionally make the document a public record, thus defaming the superintendent. In court documents, Sowecke’s attorneys said any material provided to the ethics commission would have been privileged and exempt from public disclosure. As such, Sowecke would be immune from a defamation lawsuit.
While Binette seemed to agree, there are still too many unanswered questions to simply dismiss the case.  
 

Comments

donutshopguy

The dominos are starting to fall. Mr. Asher's attempt to interfere with the process has been ruled as a ruse and has been dismissed. The defamation lawsuit brought by Mr. Fox is proving to have no merit. Let the chips fall where the may.

srblogger

and let the taxpayers clean up their mess

UgtaBkdnMe

If I were a betting man, I would bet that in a month Mr. Fox won't have a job because the dept. of ed. will suspend all of his licenses.

mikel

sawmill creek???? what did that cost????

Darkhorse

Watch out for that word FREE. Nothing is ever free. The Free word was so this attorney could get his foot in the door for more work coming his way.

arnmcrmn

Lawyer fees are a joke and people get so mad about healthcare fees. Lawyer insurance anyone?

windyglen

Once again the focus is on the wrong issue! It is not the lawyers fault "taxpayer" money was spent-it is Mr. Fox's fault. Please remember he is the one that made poor choices leading to this fiasco! Thank goodness some board members did the job they were elected to do by investigating Mr. Fox.

UgtaBkdnMe

Well said. The only thing I would add is the Asher and Caporini made poor choices when they refused to deal with Fred properly. All they wanted to do was slap him on the hands behind closed doors. Perhaps if they would have man-upped, there wouldn't have been an investigation or bill to pay.

KURTje

___________ego is so big that ____________feels a lawyer is needed. All lose.

Dudley Do-Right

So if "any material provided to the ethics commission would have been privileged and exempt from public disclosure" who released the Markling Report to the public? Sandusky Register where did you get the Markling Report? Was is released from the District? Did the Treasurer's office release the Markling Report? Sowecke has been blamed, ridiculed, and chastised for driving the Report to Columbus in an effort to make this document public and it turns out by submitting it to the Ethics Commission the document was protected.

UgtaBkdnMe

Wouldn't be surprised to learn that Asher and Caporini made it public so it couldn't be used against Fox. It certainly would fit their agenda.

Huron_1969

This hasn't been determined yet, what you read was the interpretation of his lawyers. Still could go either way and I hope for Tim's sake it doesn't harm him anymore than what's already been unfairly dished out

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Good question, Dudley !
How did the Register get the Markling Report if it was privileged ?
It was considered a 'matter of public record' for some reason ?

BLTN

Dudley, the board's attorney informed the treasurer, Mr. Weiss, to release the report to the Register. Mr. Westerhold has already reported on this in the past. Mr. Sowecke taking the report to the OEC made the report strictly confidential.

Tsu Dho Nimh

I believe you are right about this. Pat Murray was foolish filing the lawsuit against Mr. Sowecke for Fred Fox. He knew why it was public record and that anything submitted to the OEC was private, no matter how it was delivered. This supidity cannot be helping Fred's case.

Perkins2060

Lawyers are worthless.

9299

Until you need one!

Julie R.

Wrong. Lawyers are the cause of the train wrecks to begin with. They do it knowing their buddy clones at the courthouse will help them benefit even further.

Darkhorse

The public should have the right to know the results of any Ethics Commission rendering, maybe some people wouldn't be pulling the funny stuff that they do. After all, tax dollars were expended trying to sort it all out. I take it this guy is still on the payroll all this time, which is taking way too long.

Tsu Dho Nimh

I cannot help but recall the many comments of the past stating that Pat Murray does not take a case he cannot win. Apparently,he took two.

Huron_1969

Spot on.... after seeing the theatrical performance he gave at the board meeting last fall it is a miracle he wins anything

R U Kidding me

I feel another levi coming up. please vote for it so the teachers don't have to take a cut to clean up this mess there in

Julie R.

Win or lose, the worthless lawyers always win.

holycow

huron just remember come election time we need a new board. We need to replace all 5.

wiredmama222

It seems like this board ran up a HUGE bill to get information they already had didn't they? Couldn't they have gotten the same information by simply reading those emails themselves without having some lawyer running an investigation that cost them all this money? Wow, that really is costing the taxpayers a lot of money that the school board could have better spent on educating the young people of Huron.

If I were a parent with students at ANY school in Huron I wouldn't be happy with that board, nor would I be defending a single soliatry person on that board for a thing they did. Nor would I be happy with their decision to pay an attorney this much money for an investigation they could have done themselves.

This is just wasted money. At this point no matter what anyone is GUESSING about the outcome of any of the rest of this, the point at the moment is, this board just blew a huge amount of school board money that was meant for EDUCATION, not for investigations such as his, but for eduation of young people in Huron. What a shame.

Dudley Do-Right

@Wiredmama ..... Don't you live in the city of Sandusky?

Tsu Dho Nimh

lol...are you referring to the comment she made to richrs regarding Ms. Ard and the blog about Mrs. Farrar? Touche'!

Dudley Do-Right

Tsu Dho Nimh ..... yes you hit the nail on the head, just think it is ironic Wiredmana doesn't want to hear the opinion of a Perkins resident but is quick to share her opinion of Huron.

wiredmama222

Are you asking because I asked donutshop guy where he lived? I was asking him because he encourage everyone in Sandusky not to vote for the levy here then encourage all of you not to vote for the levy over there. That is why. It was not to stop him from stating his opinion. I love to hear everyone's opinion. Sorry to disappoint you.

wiredmama222

Oh, richrs...No, he told ME I couldn't comment first. Then I told him not to comment about Erie county stuff. Then I told him I was running for the City commissioners...you people need to read ALLL things before you make a comment...not just one thing. Don't make an assumption on ONE comment before you read everything. There is nothing wrong between Richrs and I that I am aware of...so don't try and make a problem. We are fine with each other's comments and such. I enjoy hearing what he has to say. It seems you are looking for a reason to cause a problem. don't.

BLTN

Wired, the board didn't "run up a HUGE bill", Mr. Fox, Mr. Asher and Mr. Caporini did. Mr. Fox by his pre-investigation actions and then by refusing to resign quietly in the very beginning of this fiasco, Mr. Caporini and Mr. Asher by refusing to counsel their friend, Mr. Fox, to resign, Mr. Asher going forward with a frivolous suit against the board to prevent them from paying for the investigation and Mr. Fox then bringing a defamation suit against board memeber, Mr. Sowecke. The fees could have been kept in the 50K range had Mr. Fox simply and respectfully resigned in the very beginning when he had the chance to do so.
Now 50K is no small amount, I agree, but in a school system with an 8 million dollar surplus, it's peanuts. If you could spend 50K to save the taxpayers from improper acts of your superintendent, I am sure you would agree to spend the money. You wouldn't like to do it, but you would.
I respectfully disagree that this "is just waisted money". I believe it is money well spent if it rids the system of corruption.
This money lost to the investigation and defending these frivolous suits has no effect whatsoever on educating the students in the system. But it is a shame that Mr. Fox, Mr. Asher and Mr. Caporini did not do the right thing at several points along the way to prevent this drama and expense.

wiredmama222

BLTN....who ordered the investigation? Did Mr Fox? Did Mr. Asher or Mr. Caporini? It was the board, I believe. So I don't see who you can blame them for this cost.

Tmm

hey wired i'm quoting you from one of your other idiotic comment's... "he had a cell phone that belonged to the City of Sandusky. Nit picking or not, that is my tax dollars he is spending". Wired, do you have any idea of what a complete dimwit you make yourself out to be by commenting one way then completely contradicting yourself. Again stick to issues in your own community & stay out of issues you have no clue about.

wiredmama222

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Personal attacks (including: name calling, presumption of guilt or guilt by association, insensitivity, or picking fights).

wiredmama222

@tnn.....try not to mix apple and oranges....but these boards, as so many have pointed out, are not for one part of a city or another. So my comments can be made about your town or mine, just as your comments can be about Sandusky as well. You don't have the right to censure anyone's comments.

Situations are much different over here. My comments were not about his cellphone but about his falsefication of paperwork. That is a fact. I said nothing about his cellphone use. That must have been someone else to whom you are referring. I could care less about the man's cellphone.
So the facts are facts. You must be confused with Mr. Fox.

The board you have in Huron, ordered that Markling report which cost the taxpayer, not just you, but all of the taxpayers, a great deal of money. Like it or not.

The issues in Huron have been placed in the SR and have been on the front page or the second page for all to read over here as over there. Your board could have fired him at any time. They chose to take a much more public route and cost your taxpayer a large amount of money whether you or anyone else like it or not.

For anyone to comment is our right. For you not to like it is your right, but you do not, as I don't, have the right to tell someone else to stay out of it. That is something I learned only recently. That is too bad, Tmm. Expect to be criticized by others when this kind of thing comes up, just like us here in good old Sandusky.

Justme...

Wired, I've asked before...have you read the report of the investigation? It included more than just emails. Do you honestly think with two board members serving to protect the super, the five of them would have been able to work together to conduct a complete investigation without outside help? Can you imagine how that would have been for the staff members that were interviewed? Unfortunately, it required someone from outside the district.

wiredmama222

Yes, and if you read what I wrote to Tmm you will find what I just said to be true to you as well. Fire the man, by all means, but to run up all these bills to do so is just silly.

Your board spent taxpayer money to do this. Money that should have gone to educate kids: one of my favorite things. I see NO reason, with what you all had on him, to have gone to this length. You had him anyway. Why did you not just fire him? Instead, your board felt the need to humiliate, and embarrass as well and it cost the taxpayer.

That was totally unnecessary. You had the "goods" why not fire him as you were well aware you could have. This was nuts. To cost the taxpayer this kind of cash is inexcuseable and totally unnecessary. It was done to do just as I said, when terribly unnecssary and vendictive.

I see no reason, when being professional, that any of this was necessary.

For those involved, when you had the reasons in your hands, to go to this length, that is was for any other reason than to be nasty, vendicitive and to hurt him, his family and to "show him up in public". I don't know who thought this up, but they truly are unprofessional in conduct.

The most idealic thing to do with what I read was to fire him and just let him go his way. That would have been plenty, but someone else had a hidden agenda and they were NOT going to let it end with that. How sad.

Justme...

Wired you obviously have no idea of the process REQUIRED to terminate a superintendent. Apparantly its not easy! The board didn't drag this out because they wanted to. They had to give him his due process, including his right to public statements and his right to a public or private (as he chose) hearing. If it were as simple as "you're fired - bye bye" they probably would have done that last spring. I must say though, I am encouraged that you finally see that the termination is justified. You've come a long way!

wiredmama222

@ Justme.....I never said to you that they should say: "you're fired bye, bye". What I did say was that they had the goods on him. Your board didn't handle any of this right whatsoever. On that I think many would agree. But to drag out the Markling people to cost your taxpayers this much money was just plain silly.

I am a HUGE fan of education. To waste this much money on this at the expense of money that could have gone to education is not something many boards wouldn't do, is what I am saying.

The truth is, they could have done this without all this expense and I believe you are smart enough a person to understand that much. You seem to be highly intelligent and knowlegable to know the ins and outs of exactly what I mean here.

He should have been let go with what I have read. No doubt there are questionable things in this record. But truly, the board did NOT have to expend this kind of funds to go the distance. They had PLENTY to get rid of him. His contract MUST have included a great many things of which he was guilty to terminate him. In which case, they gave him his day in "court" so to speak and terminated him.

My question is, given the paperwork I read, prior to when they had that Markling report done, why didn't they just STOP Markling before it got so expensive? I would have thought that the prudent thing to do?

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Let's all wait for the 'DECISION'.

I think there's still a lot of drama to come.

BLTN

Sold, regardless of the "decision", the school employees have lost confidence in Mr. Fox being able to lead the system anymore. He has lost credibility as a leader by his actions pre-investigation and even moreso, post-investigation. The board should decide to terminate him no matter what the referee says.

nobodyfromnowhere

If the Ohio Dept of Education recommends that Fox be retained and the board voted to fire him any ways then the school's insurance carrier WILL drop their coverage and all future costs will come directly from the schools general fund including lawyers cost and any court judgements and negotiated resolution.

Tmm

wait a minute...is this the same 2012 sold who never had any less than 3 to 4 paragraphs per comment? the same sold who would go on and on about how the 3 stooges had no justifiable right to have fredo fox investigated? after 3 months all we get is 2 feaking sentences!!
for those who don't know... the word down at the huron brass pelican straight from fredo's close circle is that he doesn't stand a snowballs chance in he!!. whats that old saying..."loose lips sink ships"? wow fredo you need new friends!

Tsu Dho Nimh

Funny you should mention loose lips. I have been accused of being tied to the "three stooges" or even an attorney. The truth is, I just listen to the stories of the Fox supporters I know, peel back the spin, and come to my own conclusions. It is amazing what information his "friends" share and how the more they say, the guiltier he appears.

wiredmama222

@sold....whoever was doing this had just cause to fire this man it appears. Having read what they had it would have been a simple matter but someone is behind this. They didn't want just a firing, they wanted a reconning, a public humiliation at any cost. They were not going to stop until they got it. It isn't coming from just the board, either but from outside the board. That's pretty evident. Someone had it IN for him and they are not going to stop until they "get" him.

God help them if it doesn't go their way. I have a nasty feeling if Fox, by some strange reason, wins even ONE case, the rats will come flooding from the woodwork. Even they have sense enough to leave a drowning ship. LOL

Huron_1969

You're really twisting in the wind.... I cannot phantom how you came up with this angle. Whatever happened to all your Sunshine law preaching, you know, the one you said you spent 5 minutes reading last fall.

Justme...

She is a piece of work. She FINALLY reads the report, sort of back tracks on what she spewed about for months, now somehow she's STILL an expert on how this was handled. Every step of the way she swears she knows it all.

Huron_1969

Not really her fault.... she sits high above us all on her pulpit, but forgets to come back down to get oxygen for her brain.

wiredmama222

@Justme_1969...why are you not over in Sandusky preaching about theft in office? I was so sure I would see you there, preaching about someone stealing with your same anger level as you do over here! You were so incenced about it, why not over there with your attempts to raise the bar of we poor Sanduskians who could use you? Please don't tell me you don't post over Sandusky stuff. I have seen you there over and over again.

So why not? Please do not let anyone stop you from posting about theft over there. You have a pulpit over there, too. After all, theft is theft, right? That is what you kept telling everyone. Why not in Sandusky?

wiredmama222

@ Justme...That really is unfair. I am not going to discuss that part at all. I have read what u suggested and if you had read the answer about you understand that. Don't make me sorry I gave you credit for being intelligent.

As for the rest, I already said your board had several reasons to fire him but they did it wrong. I wonder why they let these bills get so huge when they could have stopped them? Why is that?

What reason did they have for the total innihilation of his characther?

wiredmama222

I am not twisting in the wind, huron 1969, but you are. Why not over in Sandusky, preaching your hard earned "theft is theft" speech?

However, I will wait to see what Binnett says. I am wondering what the "other" things are he has to say. He may be leaning one way, but the "other things" makes me wonder about what he is thinking?

No one can be 100% sure about anything can they now? Unless they might come from Huron? Oh, yes, that's right. You all do. You all seem so certain of everything over there.

I would love to know the outcome of what the JUDGE, who has the final word, has to say. Just bidding my time.

Huron_1969

Mission control to wired
Please come back to earth
You're out of oxygen!!!

Common_Cents

Why is the insurance company only covering the first $50,000? And what are the recent bills for? Is this company still doing work for the school district? I thought they had other attorneys working the hearing?

Julie R.

The court certainly was super quick to address (and dismiss) the lawsuit that kept the Huron schools from paying Matt Markling his $90,000.00 attorney fee. On the other hand, the average citizens in Erie County sure don't get treated with that kind of respect. The joke courts in Erie County won't even address legitimate complaints from the average citizens, much less be quick about it like they were on this one.

Julie R.

As for the other part of this ~ Fox's defamation lawsuit against Soweke ~ why didn't the court settle that at the same time? More money for the attorney and his law firm, maybe? After all, win or lose, Fox will still have to pay his attorney.

UgtaBkdnMe

wired

I am asking what should be taken as a fair question: Why is it okay for you to give your opinion as an outsider on the actions of the Huron school board (basically saying they are unprofessional)but when a non-Sandusky resident gives an opinion about Ms. Ard or the voting of a school levy, you point out to them that they don't live in Sandusky? If you chose to answer this, please don't give me a lecture or point out where I am taking things out of context. Just a short, non-confrontational answer will do.

wiredmama222

@ugtabkdnme...go read the anwers yourself.

Short enough....or shall I just say that you, too, should learn to read ALL posts, not just one.

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Like I said earlier:
Let's wait for the decision.

I/We all know where I/we stand on this situation !

I'm fairly confident about the outcome, but I am waiting to hear it and see it in print. Fred Fox has been defamed throughout this situation and the 8 million dollar surplus, (some of you keep throwing out there), would not be in place if not for Fred Fox. Neither would the football stadium. Yet.. Three people who have done nothing for the school system, (fiscally or educationally), have a right to TRY to fire this man ?

We shall see.
And listen rats..
Leave the ship.
You'll be dog paddling back when it's all said and done.

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold...I will say that Fred has a good friend in you. I think you are misguided and the only person who will sink will be Fred. According to the Fox campaign headquarters, we will know the decision of ODE before the Ides of March. After watching Mr. Murray's show back in September, it is probably a good thing for Fred that the final arguments are being submitted in writing and not in person.

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There's still room on this boat for you TDN.

Fred's not going to sink, but as I stated earlier here:
There will be a lot of drama before this is all over.

The next Huron Board of Education meeting should be interesting.

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Rephrase:
There will be a lot 'more' drama before this is all over.

Huron_1969

LOL ... here's hoping the drama has been all spent and just facts and decisions are coming down the pike

Tsu Dho Nimh

Huron...I agree with you 100%!!!!! However, I do not believe that Mr. Fox and company will allow it to settle without a show. It has been a while since the Good Humor Man has made a fool out of himself at a board meeting. His little investigation of the current superintendent back-fired. I am expecting Fred's mouthpiece to speak out at the March board meeting.

wiredmama222

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Libel and defamation.

Julie R.

@ wiredmama: I don't agree. I live in Huron and I'm sure not like that .... and neither are the majority of the people in Huron. If anybody is going to make Huron look bad now it's going to be the attorneys and the courts. In fact, they already have. $90,000.00 for that Markling report to smear it in the paper that Fox had an extra-marital affair? What a crock of pure bull.

Tsu Dho Nimh

Wow!!!! Those are some ugly comments. Do you not find it interesting that your comments offend MANY people yet the people of Huron are the problem?

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Nope 69..
More drama is coming.

And as far as Binnett's ruling, (and don't get me wrong as I think Roger is a stand up guy even for a judge), but this ruling on the injunction will be appealed. It will be even funnier when Markling is ordered to pay back the
$50,000 to the insurance company and the other $40,000 that the 3 Stooges ok'd. Notice, Huron taxpayers, that your board's insurance company stopped them from raising their insurance limits and ended up only paying $50,000.

WiredMama is hitting the nail on the head when she says if they had so much on Fred Fox.. Why didn't they just fire him ? They had 3-2 shot at doing it ? Why go through all of the muck raking ? She doesn't have to be from Huron to smell what these three are cooking.

Julie R.

Binette's a stand-up guy?

(I almost puked when I read that!)

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Julie R-
I've known Roger Binette since he was a child.
Roger Binette would not lie to save his family's life.

Now.. Having said that he is the only judge in Erie County that I would call a 'stand up guy'..

Julie R.

I sure didn't get that impression.

SilentMajority

WOW! Wired...is it possible to be more arrogant and condescending? You belong in Public Office!

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TDN-
Open your ears/eyes and read what I told you. More drama coming.

Now I'm not saying what it will involve at this point, but it will be worth the wait... lol

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Ok..
Reading what the Register printed and thinking it is pretty funny because the Register itself got their ink stained hands on the Markling report because it became a matter of public record. Here is how that came about:

The Huron Board of Education's attorney advised the Board that taking the Markling report to the OEC, (Ohio Education Commission), would break attorney/client privilege and make it public. The OEC would never release the document because everything they do is confidential. This is all documented in an email to the board.

Once the Markling report was released to the OEC, the Register requested it, (as they were tipped off that it happened).

Mike Weiss, (the Huron treasurer), did not have a copy of the report. He called the board's attorney, and the attorney told him it was now public and sent a copy to Mike Weiss and told him he had to release it.

That is the sequence. Tim Sowecke was in the executive session when advised by the board attorney not to release the Markling report to the OEC. In that session they all agreed on direction, ie, wait until the board's attorney figured out the next steps to take.

Instead Tim Sowecke moved on his own. Called the OEC, got the paperwork, (Attorney Markling helped him with paperwork), he delivered the Markling report to OEC. Then after all done, he called Scott Slocum and told him what he had done.

In a nutshell that is what happened. That is why Judge Binette did not throw out the Tim Sowecke infamation suit. Tim Sowecke's attorneys asked for a summary dismissal, but were denied.

I'm still amazed at how this was reported by the Register.

Justme...

According the paper, Binnette said it DID NOT become public record as a result of it getting the OEC. But the board's attorney said it DID become public record? So who is right?? And who is blabbing to you about what goes on in executive session?

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I have told you time and time again Justyou..
You have no idea who I am and what I know.

The Register has it wrong and they themselves got thier hands on the Markling report because of Tim Soweke's actions. I am thinking that someone from the Register will end up being supenaed.

Justme...

I don't care who you are. But you said you knew what went on in executive session, and that is interesting, since what goes on in executive session is not for public consumption. Just wondering who is blabbing to you. My question is, did the report become public record or did it not become public record when it was delivered to the OEC? From you have said, it seems like either Binette is wrong of the boards attorney was wrong.

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One more time..
The Markling report became a public document, (according to the board's attorney), when Tim Soweke delivered it to the OEC on his own, ignoring what the board's own attorney had advised.

Justme...

However, according to the article, "Sowecke's attorneys said any material provided to the ethics commission would have been privileged and exempt from public disclosure..." And apparantly Binette seems to agree. So who is right?

Tsu Dho Nimh

Justme...Based on another opinion given earlier by another poster, I cannot help but wonder if Fox, Caporini, or Asher wanted this to go public. Think about it, if there is a report out there that could ruin your career and you know that the OEC and ODE will have access to it, and the these two agencies will most likely rule against you, would you not want to make this report everything but credible? Get the report out there and then start yelling "foul".

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Wow TDN-
You are really using your imagination on this one.

Read what I detailed happened. It will be released soon as 'testimony under oath'.

No one you mention above is quite that diabolicle, (sp?)..

Tsu Dho Nimh

Gee, you sure know a lot about what was said at a private hearing. How is that? If your story is true, then why does Mr. Fox and his wonderful attorney not go after the board's attorney for giving them incorrect direction? The OEC says that all files are confidential, Mr. Sowecke's attorney said all files are confidential, and Judge Binette said the files did not become public record. Sounds like Mr. Murray does not know what he is doing, either.

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Justme-
(Read this)
This past week, Binette also issued a key ruling in a defamation lawsuit Fox filed against Sowecke.

Fox alleges Sowecke delivered the Markling report to the Ohio Ethics Commission to intentionally make the document a public record, thus defaming the superintendent. In court documents, Sowecke's attorneys said any material provided to the ethics commission would have been privileged and exempt from public disclosure. As such, Sowecke would be immune from a defamation lawsuit.
While Binette seemed to agree, there are still too many unanswered questions to simply dismiss the case.

'While Binette SEEMED TO AGREE'

'In court documents, SOWECKE'S ATTORNEYS said any material provided to the ethics commission would have been privileged and exempt from public disclosure.'

So..
Binnett SEEMED to agree with what Sowecke's ATTORNEYS ALLEDGED.

Once again reading between the lines allows some to assume that this whole situation was not premeditated by Sowecke's delivery of the Markling report.

Fred Fox ALLEDGIDLY did something. ALLEDGIDLY and only according to a completely biased report issued by an attorney who was looking for a $90,000 pay day at the expense of Huron taxpayers.

(I posted this twice to make sure you saw it !)

Tsu Dho Nimh

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Not only is the drama not over in this soap opera it's about to get better/worse.. Depending on how you see it.

berlinrdgang

All five of these homers need to go! The good ole boys clubs run this town and only thing they are good at are lining the pockets of their friends and making our town look real foolish when it all falls apart!

I know most of the people on this school board including Mr Fox. What Mr Fox has done was wrong and probably should be fired, but to have his name run throught he mud is wrong and done on purpose by board members who are very vendetive. This to me makes all these fools in the wrong and they all need to go!

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BerlinRdGang-
Fred Fox has done nothing out of the ordinary and will be exhonerated.

And after that there will be a purge.

There you go again

"Nothing out of the ordinary?". I would hope you would have higher standards for the educators of our children than to allow our leader to conduct affairs on school time, use school emails, and whatever else he was doing on the business trips. I won't even go into the Busgate debacle. Our children deserve better and we, as adults, should demand it. (I'm starting to sound like Obama)

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ThereYouGoAgain-
Fred Fox ALLEDGIDLY did what you quote above. You even embellished it with: 'Whatever else he was doing on business trips.'

A 'sampling' was done with the Huron City Schools email and you hopefully may be amazed, that out of the three people whose email was sampled... Every one of them contained 'personal' emails. One of them even had emails pertianing to what had happened in a board executive session from a board member who happens to be in the majority right now.

Fred Fox cannot be treated any differently than any other employee of the Huron City Schools. They all use their email for personal use !

Tsu Dho Nimh

Why is it that you are privy to what takes place in executive sessions? Also, please explain why it is okay for YOU to know what happens in executive session but not for others. It is very clear that you get information either directly or indirectly from Asher or Caporini. Even Mr. Fox seems to find out what happens and his mouth piece spouts off at board meetings. Sounds like there are loose lips on both sides.

Dudley Do-Right

"Fred Fox has done nothing out of the ordinary" really ... would the Murrays who sit on Sandusky City Schools and Sandusky Central Catholic boards agree? Would they tolerate the same behaviors from their superintendents? Doubt it! I bet they have interesting conversations during family get togethers.

berlinrdgang

Sorry sold... allegedly done.

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Justme-
(Read this)
This past week, Binette also issued a key ruling in a defamation lawsuit Fox filed against Sowecke.

Fox alleges Sowecke delivered the Markling report to the Ohio Ethics Commission to intentionally make the document a public record, thus defaming the superintendent. In court documents, Sowecke’s attorneys said any material provided to the ethics commission would have been privileged and exempt from public disclosure. As such, Sowecke would be immune from a defamation lawsuit.
While Binette seemed to agree, there are still too many unanswered questions to simply dismiss the case.

'While Binette SEEMED TO AGREE'

'In court documents, SOWECKE'S ATTORNEYS said any material provided to the ethics commission would have been privileged and exempt from public disclosure.'

So..
Binnett SEEMED to agree with what Sowecke's ATTORNEYS ALLEDGED.

Once again reading between the lines allows some to assume that this whole situation was not premeditated by Sowecke's delivery of the Markling report.

Fred Fox ALLEDGIDLY did something. ALLEDGIDLY and only according to a completely biased report issued by an attorney who was looking for a $90,000 pay day at the expense of Huron taxpayers.

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And the board paid Markling $40,000 last night.

trackme

SOLD, your on vacation with your your buddy on the school board so why don't you and him just relaxe and enjoy your self or maybe you two have something to hide from the past freddy days. I belive it will all come out shortly

Tsu Dho Nimh

Trackme...now Sold is going to accuse you of being a "stalker"...lol He did me when I suggested the same thing back in August.

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And TDN..
You are a stalker !

Tsu Dho Nimh

LOL...you do have a sense of humor. On a serious note, no one involved is that important.

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You know TrackMe..
I am not Craig Bulea, but he would make an excellent Huron School Board member. He is REALLY a businessman with a lot of knowledge about the school system and he has a head for economics.

***(and can obviously afford to spend free time with the board as he is vacationing in FLA and I am here in the frozen tundra).

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Let's hope it does, Trackme..

Where is it that I am supposed to be on vacation ?
And with whome ?

Tsu Dho Nimh

Anyone who went to Monday's board meeting knows that Mr. Caporini was not in attendance because he is on vacation. He, like many others, believes that you are a good friend, and spouse of a former board member, that often vacations with the Caporinis. But you already knew that :)

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TDN and the rest..
Hahaha.. I'm not on vacation unless you think that retirement is a vacation.

I didn't know that Craig Bulea was also on vacation, but to clarify just another of the fantasies that people print on here: The Buleas and the Caporinis are in the same state, (FLA), but not together.

TDN-
I seem to be able to get information that others are not privy to. Why don't you just listen to what I am telling you instead of sticking with your conspiracy theories.

I gave you key information earlier when I told you all that there was a sampling done of the Huron City School's email accounts. One of your beloved 3 Stooges actually divuldged what happened in executive session to a teacher in the Huron City Schools. This will all be on record soon.

There is also the fact that Fred Fox had no, REQUIRED, evaluations in the last two years. Before that his evaluations are glowing.

If after the referee gives a decision to put Fred Fox back to work and the Huron Board of Education decides not to put Fred Fox back to work there will be another lawsuit.

This mess will continue until the 3 Stooges are no longer the majority and decisions are made in the best interest of the students and employees of the Huron City Schools.

Not one charge made by the Markling report will stick because they are trumped up.

Fred Fox will be back to work after March 11th, 2013 or he will be paid to the end of his contract if he decides he does not want to work for the Huron City Schools.

Fred Fox is a good man whose name has been drug through the mud by these people who are not qualified to run a business, let alone an entire school district.

How about we all wait for March 11th, 2013 and then let's talk.

Tsu Dho Nimh

Is the March 11th date public knowledge? I heard about the "special" date through the Fox headquarters but did not realize that ODE released it to the public. I thought the hearing was private and whatever was said behind closed doors was to stay behind closed doors.

Sit n Spin

"Fred Fox is a good man whose name has been drug through the mud".

I bet his wife does not carry those same sentiments :D

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PS..
Huron taxpayers:
You paid for attorney Marklings legal defense when this board decided to pay him $40,000 at the board meeting.

Let's think about this for a moment. We are paying for the school system's regular lawyers; the 'new' school system attorneys; attorney Markling and now his attorneys.

As Wiredmama has stated here in the past: That's a lot of money that was earmarked for the education of Huron's students.

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Sit N Spinner !
I have missed you.

Fred's wife is ok.. but I'm sure she would be glad that you care.

The funniest part about this whole 'situation' is that if the Markling report was NOT a public document how did you and all of the other nuts get to read it ?

Tsu Dho Nimh

It would not be the first time that the treasurer's office made a mistake with what it released. Mr. Weiss has made a lot of mistakes during this whole mess.

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Ding Ding Ding Ding...
You are correct TDN !

*(We will be talking about him later !)*

Tsu Dho Nimh

Hey, we agree on something. Maybe there is hope for peace in the Middle East...LOL

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hahahah... good one !

Sit n Spin

Awwwww...it's so cute and refreshing to see you two playing nice together ! Shall we all meet at the Main Street Tavern for a cold one to discuss ? That would be a treat !!!! I'll buy !

Tsu Dho Nimh

: )

Sit n Spin

Is that a yes or are you just flirting with me ? Lol !

Huron_1969

I am really thirsty !!!

Tsu Dho Nimh

Me, too! Shall we wait for Sold to come back into town or meet without him? : )

Huron_1969

Hmmm ... looks like a no show, guess I'll go home now

Ps - I put the drinks and dinner on the schools tab

Sit n Spin

I yelled Akooooon Sooooold Fooooox are you here ? I'm buyin ! Three different times and each time some chubby chick in spandex with 2 teeth came a runnin' up to me and said I'll be your Stone Cold Fox ! Sooooo she got 3 beers and I left ! Where were my wingmen ? TDN ? Huron_1969 ? You all left me hangin ! I had my name tag on.

Huron_1969

Sorry... I was busy giving Ms Spandex the eye. (don't tell my wife ok)

Tsu Dho Nimh

I was waiting for my rental car to be delivered but the rental company was late. Mr. Asher, Mr. Caporini, and Mrs. Bulea were all in agreement that the district would cover it. Aren't they nice!

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You guys are fun bunch !
And you know we would have a blast all getting together. I don't think the Huron City Schools would even have to pass a levy if Scott Slocum paid for drinks and dinner...

UgtaBkdnMe

I can't believe this was removed. The other board members names are thrown all over the place and this was offensive? I think not! TDN makes a little joke about the board members covering his rental car costs and someone needs to report it. Get a life!

Tsu Dho Nimh

Ugta...they returned my post but thank you for your support.

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You are getting censored, too ?

Tsu Dho Nimh

Evidentally someone was offended that I would state that three board members would approve rental cars for recreation.

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LIKE.. lol

Retiree

Since there are people on this blog that have knowledge of everything that goes on in executive session. What about all the money that has come up missing from the sale of tickets at sporting events and food consession? The school treasure acknowledged he was aware of this problem.

Sold: You made the statement, "when Fox gets his job back". Do you actually feel there will ever be another levy passed in Huron again, if Fox is reinstated?

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Retiree-
Don't know anything about the missing money, but that would all be a question for the athletic director/assistant principal/principal in that order.

As far as you linking Fred Fox to a levy.. Fred Fox got the school to a point where no levy will be needed for a while. 8 million dollar surplus = no levy.

Do you seriously believe a levy will ever pass with the current board of education in place ?

Levies are passed when the school is symbotic with the public. This board is completely out of touch with Huron.

Fred Fox is going to be cleared of all charges. To me that means he did nothing wrong. To those that believe because an innocent man is charged with doing something that he is automatically guilty.. I beg to differ.

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I got to the Tavern late..
The chubby chick in spandex was not TDN !
I can't prove the guy talking to her was not Huron69, though.
Are you sure she had 2 teeth, Spinner ? I can only vouch for one..

Sit n Spin

Maybe it was wiredmama :D Yes, there were 2 tooths and you know you have the marks to prove it ! Hahaha !

Huron_1969

The lady with the oxygen tank?

Huron_1969

;-)

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hahahaha..
That's not tooth marks.. Those are 'defensive' wounds from posting here... lol

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I have been wanting to explain something for a while.

One of the first articles we all commented on was the one where there was an audio tape of Fred Fox's attorney asking for a list of the charges against Fred Fox.

Attorney Markling would not talk to Fred Fox if Fred Fox didn't have an attorney. Markling also said he would only talk to Fred Fox if Fred Fox would admit to his guilt on all charges.

Fred Fox went to Scott Slocum and asked for a list of his charges and Scott Slocum told him he wouldn't talk to him if he, (Fred Fox), didn't have an attorney.

At that point, Fred Fox got an attorney.

Some of you have said that if Fred Fox would have just left quietly this whole thing would be over. Fred Fox didn't ask for this. Nothing Fred Fox did, or did not do, merited this witch hunt.

Fred Fox tried to handle it quietly and the board forced him to get an attorney and fight for his job and his good name.

Fred Fox did nothing out of the ordinary for a Huron City Schools employee. Why is he being treated differently ?

Retiree

Wait a minute. Let me put this as plain as possible. You know nothing about any money missing from the ticket sales at sporting events or the consession stands. Yet you know about everything else that takes place in exectutive sessions. Has someone got caught with their hand in the cookie jar again and the "order to protect" these people been ordered? The treasure knew about this, who else does and why is it being kept a secret?Your treasure seems to know quite abit about everything yet does not disclose anything until questioned about it. You people,in Huron, are getting robbed and do not even know it. The truth "is being swept under the rug" from the public. An investigation needs to happen right now. Wake up Huron, your paying tax dollars for, toolgate, busgate, ticketgate and now consessiongate along with the questional behavior of your now defunk superintendent. Sounds like a mini MetroParks Greenway Project.

UgtaBkdnMe

Retiree

Is this a new problem or did it happen under the Fox reign. You've got me interested!!!!

Julie R.

"You people in Huron are getting robbed and don't even know it."

You can say that again! Forged power of attorneys, forged Wills, fraudulent transfers of property, internal criminal changes to an elderly, incompetent person's contracts........all from HURON with the exception of an attorney from Eeerie County's favorite Lorain County law firm. Even the Erie County auditor that authorized a fraudulent transfer of property was a Huronite!

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Oh Julie R..
I am personally sorry for what happened to you.
This is about a group of people trying to wreck another man's life. You of all people know what it feels like.

Tsu Dho Nimh

What is going on with reporting comments? Retiree did not mention any names or which sport was connected to the allegation.

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How do you tie Fred Fox to missing money at a basketball game while he is under suspension ?

Retiree-
Listen.. I have not addressed how I feel about the treasurer. TDN and I are both in agreement that something is not right in the treasurer's office. I don't believe he is stealing, but just like reimbursing Fred Fox improperly.. Fred Fox does not reimburse himself..

I do not know what's going on with the 'missing' funds, but I'm sure someone is investigating it. Obviously someone knows about it or you wouldn't know about it.

This is, as I have already posted, a question for the athletic director/vice principal/principal... In that order. (And.. In case you don't know.. There are school employees who handle that money). And by 'that money', I am talking about the gate.. not the food. The food is sold by some booster organization and has nothing to do with school employees.

Tsu Dho Nimh

How do you know Retiree was referring to a basketball game? So what is the scoop? I am an inquiring mind : )

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Retiree knows more than I do about this one... lol

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Insert football/vollyball/etc.. I don't know what retiree is referring to.

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During the board meeting Mike Weiss, (treasurer), received a text message from Attorney Markling asking him when he could pick up the $40,000 check that was just approved by the board.

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The Huron Board of Education has never discussed the personal use of email with the 'new' superintendent. If this is such 'an issue' don't you think someone should have brought it up ?

Tsu Dho Nimh

How would you know what was discussed? Are you on the board? I would think the board president would be having this discussion with the 'new' guy, not the entire board.

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Sorry TDN..
He was never told anything about personal email use.
Not by Scott Slocum or any other board member.
I don't need to tell you how I know, but at some point you will find out that EVERYTHING I tell you is true.

Justme...

Gee Sold, do you think maybe there's a written policy somewhere?

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In 11 years Fred Fox used 2 sick days.
In 6 months the 'new' superintendent has used 7.

UgtaBkdnMe

And in March 2011 Freddy had two vacation days that weren't docked, courtesy of 3 board members who cheated the taxpayers. I don't think our current super receives pay for the days he doesn't work.

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I don't think being the key phrase..

He gets paid. He actually goes on 'professional development' days to get educated at the age of about 70. Huron's board pays this guy to be trained ? At his age he should know it all by now ?

Justme...

There are lots of changes going on right now in Ohio. I would think all superintendents need to be trained, regardless of how old they are. As for the time off, I'm sure Fred took vacation days throughout the years. Its not like the guy never took a day off. Are you people monitoring everyone's time off, or just the new Super? You all are sounding quite desparate.

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