Huron board fires back at Fox conspiracy claim

A faction of Huron school board members are firing back at fellow board member Kevin Asher's claim about a grand conspiracy against embattled superintendent Fred Fox.
Jessica Cuffman
Nov 20, 2012

Board member Kevin Asher and attorney Patrick Murray, who represents Fox, have previously filed court documents accusing the majority of the board members of holding a personal vendetta against Fox.

In court documents filed this past week, however, Fox's opponents said any notion of a conspiracy theory is not only false, but also irrelevant.  

"Asher's brief includes more than a dozen pages of irrelevant, speculative, false and defamatory conspiracy theories masquerading as 'facts,'" stated documents filed by Drew Legando, attorney for board members Tim Sowecke and Donna Green. "Its outlandish claims have nothing to do with the issues presented by the motions pending before the court."

Read the court filings. Click HERE to see the originial conspiracy claims.

For more on the ongoing legal battles, pick up a copy of Thursday's Register.

 

Comments

UgtaBkdnMe

You are such a grown up :)

wiredmama222

I was talking to her in terms I am sure she would understand. The use of anything bigger might baffler her. I wouldn't want to do that as she has trouble comprehending simple English.

Don't worry about it. I am sure she got that one. SO don't be too quick to defend her. She needs to learn to stand on her own two feet.

I bet you are her husband, friend or some such person. I bet she is ALL upset because of what I have said to her. She can dish it out but can't take it, right?

Then she shouldn't have started it, now should she?

UgtaBkdnMe

As someone posted earlies, never assume. Do you remember who that was ? You sure are easy to get riled up ! As someone posted to Tmm, just relax !

kURTje

SR here is a valid reason why people should be allowed to comment @ no charge. Can you imagine having these conversations in a public forum? Whew!

wiredmama222

why not, Kurt? What is wrong with it? People actually have these types of conversations all the time. Have you never been part of one? They can be very enlightening. If you listen to one you might actually learn something.

I would LOVE to hear YOU talk. I would love to learn something from YOU. What have you to say?

UgtaBkdnMe

Mama, don't make rules you can't follow. No one was talking to you !

wiredmama222

Really, then you don't read much.

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WiredMama-
Thank you for putting a voice to the silent majority of people who live outside of Huron and are watching this soap opera evolve. It wasn't handled correctly from the beginning and continues to gain momentum and size. This is going to take from 5-10 years to finally get this over with.

SR-
You speak for the majority of Huron who wants to get rid of Fred Fox.. Give me a break. Are you quoting 3 out of your 4 friends ?

DonutGuy-
I have anything but a one track mind. You, and others on here are totally one tracked. Fred Fox ALLEDGEDLY did this and ALLEGEDLY did that. You attempt to represent Shawnee's principal and the gregious damage done to her. Her response settles the gossipers. She said it was not happening. Fred Fox never claimed to be having an affair with her ?

I really don't care who your friends are, but if they are the majority of Huron and they want Fred Fox gone maybe they should hire a Murray and go after him, too.

You all try to stir a pot that isn't very full. Fred Fox used the company's email for personal use. That's it. Kalahari's not a vendor. The Arizona trip was ok'd by the Huron BOE and the treasurer. Emails.. That's what it has come down to. And in the mean time Huron BOE mambers have broken laws to get Fred Fox. Not policies.. Not rules.. They have full blown broken the law, Donut. How can any one of you defend that ?

One track mind.. It's easy to stay 'on track' with this mess.

wiredmama222

Sold....If there is one thing that really irritates me, it is someone or a group of people that bends the law to use it for their own personal purposes. That is EXACTLY what the BOE appears to have done.

This appears to have become a public "lynching" of sorts, a deliberate and carelfully planned embarrassment aimed at one person. Instead of following the prescribed rules of the State of Ohio, three people decided to throw the rules OUT and do as they pleased. I don't care WHAT type of board it is, that is wrong....you just don't do it. You are duly elected representatives of a group of people. You are sworn to uphold the laws you are elected to represent. To throw all that away for whatever reason and do something so aggressious as this is just not done. How dare they.

I don't care WHY they did it. It doesn't matter. I really don't. They did it. What matters is, they violated his rights. They didn't follow the prescribed laws of Ohio. They abused their power. THAT is what makes me mad. They chose to make a mockery of the law. You cannot do that. Once you decide to throw out the law, you have lost....it stops being right at that moment. I don't care who you are or what you are doing....you just lost. Nothing you do from that point on matters.

But these people don't get that, they don't understand that. How could they. Once that line is crossed they seem to have gone NUTS. I guess the old sayings are true about once you cross that line, you lose your mind.
You become no better than those who are crooks.

The problem is, you have no integrety from that point on. It is really sad. I cannot stomach those who look the law fight in the face and spit. I really can't. I can't take it from the lowest attorneys to the highest judges. Laws are written and accepted for a reason....to maintain order and humanity. To maintain civilization as we know it. To maintain order.

Why would anyone who knows that, who puts their hand up and takes that oath of office throw it away? Why run that risk?

No, its wrong when you just thumb your nose at the law, say it doesn't matter any more and just go crazy by forgetting its existence. That is what happened here. Three people said no, two did not.

The three who said the law didn't matter must have forgotten they PROMISED to uphold a buch of laws. The PROMISED to do good for the city of Huron, to protect the citizens and do what was right at all times. That is what they promised. To follow the laws of the State of Ohio at all times, not when they felt like it, but at all times. Each memeber promised. Two of then remembered that promise....three of them did not. What a shame.

donutshopguy

Sold,

Fred used the principal as his cover for his affair. He told numerous employees on numerous occasions he was going to help the principal. Low and behold Mr. Fox did not visit the principal but used the time to carry on his affair on public school time. This is not gossip because on of my friends was recipient of such a lie by Mr. Fox.

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Donut-
I am not writing in braile ?

Fred Fox's supposed visitation of TVT BECAME the object of office gossip. It never was true that Fred Fox and TVT were having an affair. IT WAS JUST GOSSIP !

I am in NO WAY claiming that Fred Fox did not say he was visiting TVT.. I am saying that the GOSSIP WAS NOT TRUE.

Tsu Dho Nimh

The point is that he was not visiting TVT. Gossiping is wrong and hurtful but had Mr. Fox not lied about his whereabouts, there would have been anything to gossip about. When he was made aware of the rumors, he did not do anything to stop them. I am not saying he encouraged them but it did not bother him that her reputation was put out there if front of everyone.

wiredmama222

And of course ,you feel there is nothing wrong with gossip, right? You stock in trade, is it? Why bother trying to condradict people who gossip, like you? Your mind was already made up wasn't it? He was guilty no matter what and you felt the right to get into his personal life.

So someone should get into yours. Someone should check into what YOU do all day and night and then plaster it all over town. How many checks you write, money you have, who you spend time with, where you go, what you do. Where you work, with whom you work, what you talk about and about what you talk? Do you discuss others? Do you spend too much time at lunch? Do you come right home after work? What do you spend on your clothing? Are you a good mother, do you smother your kids? Do you tell them what to think, do and say? When was the last time they felt comfortable talking to you about anything? What do you tell them? Is your husband competent at his job?

How do YOU like the scruteny? Just checking because that is what it is like. Perhaps we should have a private investigator check into HER as she has seen private reports that belong to the school board. She has no right since she isn't on the school board and isn't related to any of them. How can that be?

UgtaBkdnMe

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Personal attacks (including: name calling, presumption of guilt or guilt by association, insensitivity, or picking fights).

wiredmama222

UGTO....Just stating facts that are obviously in evidence. Re read what your friend has posted. Perhaps you haven't read some of the things she has admitted to.

No, she keeps saying over and over again, the same things that Mr Fox did wrong. Object lesson here. Now that she has seen and read it for herself maybe she will learn what it is like to be put on the "hotseat" for herelf and not be so quick to judge others. It isn't pleasant.

I am not trying to be "ugly" but trying to inform her about some of her ideas and how cruel they can be. Nothing teaches like first hand happening or holding a mirror up to someone when they need it most.

How do I know? Because I had to have it happen to me before I learned the hard way. And boy do you learn it. I will never again stoop to gossiping about ANYONE ever again. I found out how degrading and how awful you make that other person feel. How gossip hurts the other person's life.

I wanted her to learn it. I hope she has. She needs to learn to really listen to the other person's POV and think before she speaks. REALLY think about what she is saying and doing.

I hope it helps here. I sincerely do. She has attacked me every chance she gets, bitterly and nastily since the beginning and I got sick of it.

She refuses to even THINK about any POV but her own. Won't even consider it. That isn't fair to herself either. She cannot see the forest for the trees and she should.

Just trying to make her think. Not being ugly, just trying to help her REALLY learn a lesson. One it took me years to learn. I hope she learned it.

UgtaBkdnMe

When was the last time that you gave credibility to someone's POV ? It's Sunday so it might be a good day to practice what you preach !

UgtaBkdnMe

Mama, you shouldn't be responding to this. First, Tsu didn't ask for your opinion. Second, your response is attacking. Tsu just shared his/her opinion but certainly didn't disrespect any of the fellow bloggers. Shame on you !

wiredmama222

And neither was she asked anything. Again, she butted in. So if we go by YOUR logic, I was just responding to HER comments, nothing more. So THERE.

Look, I said she shouldn't answer people's questions when someone else asked them, but you want to make a whole big deal out of it. Like I have said before, that is all I said about it. Now If you want to make more of it than that, then that is one you.

I reponded to HER comments. That is what we have been doing. So shut the heck up and go about your own business and stop hounding me about something that is none of yours just because your friend doesn't like being told off. Too bad.

UgtaBkdnMe

Not so sure Tsu is a HER. Sold keeps calling HER DL, which is a HE. Actually, HER comments have not been any different than others and hasn't crossed lines. Not seeing much that is considered gossip either. Doesn't seem like SHE needs any lessons taught to HER. Why are you so hung up on what SHE has to say ? I would think a woman of your age would not let someone get under her skin !

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Great post, Mama !
It really is simple, isn't it ?
And people keep bashing Fred Fox because of what they learned by reading the Markling report.

The truth is they went after Fred Fox and had to make him look bad in the eyes of the public so they wouldn't look bad. It all backfired.

What a mess..

UgtaBkdnMe

Great post, Mama ! Squawk, squawk !

wiredmama222

Thanks, but some people on here have such a thin skin they should ask for a skin transplant. I swear. They won't get this unless a HOUSE falls on them. It is very simple to see if you don't like in Huron and aren't all into this stuff. It takes distance to see it I swear.

How much simplier can it get. Most people want to believe the bad stuff, its more interesting and they can go gossip with their friends on the phone about all the imagined stuff and more. Its sad. Wait till something bad really does happen over there. I pity some of these people then. What will they do? LOL.

Right now, its pointles to try and convince some of them. They have their cememted minds made up and nothing will change that no matter what anyone says. It will take a judge to answer their twisted mess and when it does these people wont' come back on here for months to admit they are wrong.

How sad that will be. As small as Huron is, they have no where to hide either, LOL. Many of them are in for a rude awaking. Many of them Not ALL of Huron....as it has been falsely reported .....is like some of the people on here. They don't ALLL have the problem that some of these cememt minds do.

Just thought I WOULD MENTION THAT for certain people have a problem telling the truth around here.

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And if the Register removed 'There You Go Agains' posts nothing would be lost or missed.

Tsu Dho Nimh

I respectfully disagree...the rest of us would miss out on the entertainment factor!

There you go again

What are you so angry about? Gee whiz...

wiredmama222

Don't mind them. Some of the people from Huron are all upset because they don't like hearing from "outsiders". They don't want to hear about anything that may not be to their liking such as anyone who does not agree with their ideas about Fred Fox. They want you to agree that their Board of Education did everything just right and that good old Fred got what he deserved.

Others want you to believe that he shouldn't have had a problem with the BOE.

The fight goes on and on. Fred sued. The BOE is in trouble.

Everyone is taking sides and tempers are running high. Apparently they made a rather nasty comment about you which in itself is mean.

You go right ahead and say whatever you want (like it is my decision...yeah, right). Just make sure it doesn't violate any rules on here that the SR made up.

sanduskyregiste...

Sold, what about days missed? seems he was missing alot of time as witnessed by the reports. the things in the report given by the principals are very disturbing. this is a position (superintendant) that people want to be trustworthy, solid, and its hard for us who see whats been going on to feel that way.

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Which principals are you quoting ? Seems to me that throughout the Markling report only Tanny Von Thron and Ruffy make detrimental comments on what they have heard ? (Gossip again)

And of course they were not under oathe so as court proceedings continue possibly the story will change ?

Tsu Dho Nimh

Why would two well respected administrators lie? What makes the difference if they were under oath? Do you have any valid evidence that supports that they claim they never made such comments about Mr. Fox and that the Markling firm made it up?

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