Huron board member files injunction

Huron School Board member Kevin Asher has filed an injunction against the board, three board members and the school treasurer.
Sandusky Register Staff
Jul 2, 2012

Huron School Board member Kevin Asher has filed an injunction against the board, three board members and the school treasurer.

Asher, represented by W. Patrick Murray, has asked the court to grant him a temporary injunction preventing the school district for paying McGown & Markling for an investigative report it prepared for the district looking into the activities of superintendent Fred Fox. (See the McGown & Markling report HERE.)

Read the full document below.

Comments

Informed

Sold, there is nothing "alledgedly" about Fox having an affair during work hours and with work resources--just read the emails and look at the times they are sent.  If that isn't proof, then I don't know what is.  The fact that you continue to describe these factual emails as rumors is ridiculous, and it is not simply friendly mentoring.  At best it is still horribly inappropriate.  And if you ran a private business, you would have no need to publicly disclose anything.  This is a different story and the taxpayers have a right to know.  Just like I am still a bit perturned that it was never disclosed why John Majoy was fired as police chief.  We have a right to know that as well.

Still Sold on Fox 3

Informed-
While there is proof that emails were exchanged I still don't see where an actual affair happened in the proof ? And if it did there is really no way to prove that it happened during work hours because Fred Fox's work hours vary.

This is definately a matter of debate. And I agree.. Taxpayers have a right to know the facts, but not the inuendo that is the Markling report. Even public employees do not deserve to have the ramblings of subordinates published before any charges are even filed ?

And a good example is John Majoy. Why was he fired ? Can't you just go down to city hall and request the documents that led up to his firing along with the final determination ? He's/ He was a public employee.

Even if I agreed that Fred Fox had an affair; was reimburssed improperly for a trip to Arizona and got discounts on golf.. I'm not convinced that the severity of any of that is grounds for dismissal. And beyond all of that, no matter what. Even if Fred Fox was/is guilty on all counts the Markling report should NEVER have been released to the public as it is not a factual document. It is a series of slanted questions asked to people not under oathe and the answers they didn't like, or that cast doubt on Fred Fox's guilt were neutered out. The Markling report taken out of the mix and just going by emails there is proof that Fred Fox communicated with another administrator that he was mentoring. Is this not the truth ? Fred Fox communicated with the biggest taxpayer in Huron. Is this not the truth ?

Given these statements how could Fred Fox's communications be found to be 'horribly inappropriate' ? Never once did Fred Fox say anything 'horribly innappropriate' in any email ? I will say that it had to be horribly stupid for Fred Fox to carry on an affair on the school's email. That is why I am not convinced because Fred Fox is not stupid. I believe he does everything for a reason and am waiting for the Ohio Ethics Commision to give us all the reason. I will accept what they find. Will you ?

MissResearch2012

I too wonder why we have never heard the real and true story behind John Majoy, Informed!?  You & TMM & TSHU bring out many good points (& comments) regarding this case.  DEAR SOLD!!! - That is nice that you feel you need to be loyal to Fox.  I commend you for that but I do not respect you, as you obviously did not take the time to read or at least use an open MIND (any mind?) when reading the 50 page report.  I happen to know many people named in the report & I also happen to be somewhat close to the situation when it was going down. If Fred Fox has any shame, guilt, remorse or caring feelings for the Huron residents who believed in him, he would have RESIGNED already instead of adding insult to our injuries of having to pay for his lawyers.  Especially when using one of the best law firms (M&M) in the area.  If for any other reason then wasting valuable tax dollars, carrying on in ANY kind of NON PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP while on company time should be grounds to fire him. You don't really believe he is innocent of the affair though, do you???  He has been a 'judge' to others when it comes to disciplining & now he should discipline himself!!!  That would come in a form of retiring as superintendent or pricipal in any school district, ever.  Maybe he could enter 'politics?'  ;-)

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold,

I forgot to answer your question:  Who do I think is telling the truth?  The documents sitting in the business office at  the board, at least on one of the issues.  These alone are enough and I don't need any information from the "slanted" report   :  )

HHGUY

 Mrs. Bulea will be back!

Still Sold on Fox 3

TDN-

Once again I reiterate, the trip to Arizona was for a conference and it is reimbursable. Now.. Fred Fox apparently took his wife which would require him to pay for her transportation and meals unless she was under some official copacity at the conference.

If Fred spent a day before and a day after this would all be reimbursable, (at least on 80% of all business expense accounts ?)..

So..
The Huron Board of Education reimbursed Fred Fox for taking the trip and he in return gave them receipts. Where is the discrepensy ? Or is that descrepency ? (Wouldn't want anyone without an intelligent reply to get stuck on mis-spellings !)..

And..
If the Board and Treasurer paid/reimbursed Fred Fox and he did not ever misrepresent where, when, how and with who he was going.. Where is the problem with this trip ?

Julie R.

Still can't figure out why the Murrays would take a case like this over the so-called unprofessional conduct of an attorney from the law firm of McGown & Markling. I thought the Murrays didn't take cases against other attorneys because of a "conflict of interest."  

This should be very interesting.  

Still Sold on Fox 3

Julie R-

The Murrays don't do anything not motivated by profit ? What's there to figure out ?

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold,

What you describe with receipts would be acceptable and permissible.  In the words of Paul Harvey...now the rest of the story.

Time will show that you don't know all that was involved.

Still Sold on Fox 3

TDN-

Only about five people actually know 'all that was involved' and I don't think it's all been shared yet. Although, I don't believe what gets shared will be what you and others are apparently looking for as the '3 Stooges' have already showed all their cards and it was called the Markling report.

I can't wait for all of the 'new' information !

Having said that I also know when dealing with the government, ie Ohio Ethics Commission, that even an accusation with no merit can result in the loss of a job, or career. At this point nothing could ever surprise me with this fiasco.

Hope you have a nice Sunday and enjoy your Register !

And TDN.. I am very interested in seeing what happens with 'Toolgate' as that seems like an unresolved issue that is in need of that resolution ! I don't know if anyone, with the exception of a few disgruntled transportation garage employees even cares about this as, once again, there most likely is NO proof of any wrongdoing to substantuate any kind of further investigation. Like the rest of this mess.. It makes great reading but when doing the wash it all comes out in the rinse.

Julie R.

"The Murrays don't do anything not motivated by profit."

@ Still Sold on Fox 3:  So where's the profit in filing an injunction to stop the Huron school board from paying a law firm that was hired to do an investigation into the ethics of Fred Fox's relationship with Kalahari? You might also ask yourself this question ---- would the Murrays have taken the Kim Nuesse case and filed an injunction to stop the city of Sandusky from paying that shady Cleveland law firm of Murman & Murman for that idiot Murman Report? Bet not! 

 

Still Sold on Fox 3

Julie R-

The profit will come when the 'witch trial' is over. Think of the injunction as a 'pre-emptive' strike. The Murrays are not known for defense. They are known for offense. And as offensive as this whole thing is, they obviously smell a profit down the road or would not be involved. Doesn't that make sense ?

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold,

Patience, my friend, patience.  You're going to find out that at Mr. Fox and at least 3 members of the previous board made decisions that cannot be legitimately explained.  There is no rabbit and a magic hat.

Still Sold on Fox 3

TDN-

Tell me more. What type of decisions ?

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold,

Just exercise YOUR rights to public records : )

Still Sold on Fox 3

Hahaha.. OK TDN

I'm way too lazy to look through a bunch of, (YAWN), board minutes.

But am very patient so since you won't JUST TELL ME.. I'll have to wait.

Like I said to someone else earlier: If accusers had to have their own Markling report they may choose their words more wisely when talking about someone who has.

You can reach me at:   FredFox2012@yahoo.com

Still Sold on Fox 3

You can reach me at: FredFox2012@yahoo.com

Sit n Spin

He was mentoring her alright !  The Fox was caught in the hen house !!!!

CrissySnow

I am not a member of the Huron community, but I must admit I have pulled up a chair and popped some corn to eat while reading these comments.  It's pretty entertaining!

 

I have read the e-mails and the report.  It seems clear to me, from the e-mails alone, that Mr. Fox was having an affair using Huron taxpayer resources and while being paid a salary by the taxpayer.  Can he be fired for that?  I don't know, but I would hope so.  Forget about if it was an affair; it's inappropriate use of company property for personal "business".  The argument "everyone does it" is not a solid defense as I don't believe the issue is everyone.  It's Fred Fox's conduct, correct?

 

There are some really logical, apparently non-emotional based posts on here. (Tsu Dho Nimh being one) But I am confused about one thing... Sold on Fox (and the iterations of) is the poster that claimed to be the Mensa member, correct?

 

Time to pop more corn!!!

 

Still Sold on Fox 3

Three's Company-

Pop your popcorn. You talk about 'everyone does it' but I don't.

Here's the test:  https://www.us.mensa.org/join/mht/

You too could be Mensa material. If you do well, you to can CLAIM to be a member.

I like TDN's comments because she does her homework, but her comments are as slanted as mine in a different direction. Most of the comments here are well written and thought out and do offer a certain kind of entertainment. Glad you've been entertained as a man's reputation is attacked and ruined.

I've read it all, too. Fred Fox is allowed to communicate with people he is doing business with ie Kalahari and the other administrator he was mentoring. Read into it what you want, but I can only hope that there is more sense in the members of the appointed Ohio ethics Commission.

Enjoy the show, Crissy.

underthebridge

I don't doubt that there are more public records that will shed more light on to the wrong-doing (as TDN mentions).  I do get frustrated that the SR does not exercise THEIR right to public records.  It seems to me that it may have implications for the other district that recently got a huge donation for their stadium from a local regional medical center.   It makes me wonder if FRMC got any tax abatements on their facility by Wal-Mart.  For that matter, I also wonder if NOMS got any tax abatements for their huge facility at Strub and Hayes. 

Darkhorse

What is the update on this situation with Fox?  Wasn't he supposed to get back with the Board in so many days with his comments on the situation?  Is this coming to any resolution anytime soon?  What happened at Monday's meeting?  Can anyone update us? 

booker

  Where did SR get it's copy of the Lawyers report?  Did anyone notice the notes in the right hand margins of pgs  8,9,14,27, & 48?

Matt Westerhold

Thanks for the comment Seung-yul Noh. The Register obtained its copy of the Markling report via a public records request to the Huron school board. If you review the list of documents included with the story, the first document is an email from the district treasurer confirming it as a public document. You have to page down a bit if you hit this link to view the email. 

Still Sold on Fox 3

Well Mr. Matt Westerhold..

To what do we owe the honor of your presence on our little chat ?

That document should never have seen the light of day as it was generated illegally, because it was never voted on to authorize it's generation in a 'regular' Huron Board of Education meeting.

Markling was 'hired' to provide 10 'free' hours and turned it into an illegal $50,000 report.

I do not blame the Register for snatching up this slanted, slanderous pile of great reading. I actually commend the Register staff for snatching it up and running with it.

Tim SOWecke got his wish when it was published. He wanted this information to be public. He wanted to make Fred Fox look bad. He succeeded beyond even his wildest dreams.

But now.. the truth is actually rising like cream to the top of freshly squeezed milk. Kevin Asher's injunction details the events and conversations that led to the Markling report's generation and the illegal actions that not only authorized it, but also got it published.

At some point, the Ohio Ethics Commission is going to rule on Fred Fox's actions. Hopefully their investigation will center on both sides of the issues unlike the Markling report that only focused on the jaded views of the Huron City School's rumor mongers.

When you wrestle the control of a school system away from the most powerful entities there's bound to be some waves created. This has been turned into a tsunami..

Julie R.

"Markling was 'hired' to provide 10 'free' hours and turned it into an illegal $50,000.00 report."

An attorney was hired to provide 10 hours of FREE work? Wow! I never heard of attorneys that would ever work for free.  I mean, come on already --- most attorneys would steal the pennies off a dead man's eyes!  I know morons from Huron that made an appointment and took their wealthy old Italian stepfather ~ who already had two strokes and 3 heart attacks ~  down to some Lorain County attorney from the big Lorain County law firm of Stumphauzer & O'Toole and records I have show the attorney charged $800.00 for one 60-minute appointment and $507.00 for the 2nd. Yet you're saying this law firm of McGown & Markling that was hired by the Huron board members were working for FREE? I don't believe it.  

Still Sold on Fox 3

Julie R-

It's in the documented record. Read the injunction. Markling was attempting to gain a client.

Your cynical view sounds like you just don't like attorneys. Are you one ?

TaxRaider

Did anyone read the letter to the editor of the Huron Hometown News?  Sold... how do you defend that information?

Still Sold on Fox 3

Tax Raider-

Don't read Tim SOWecke's Hometown News. Could you post it here so I may see what I cannot defend from yet another rumormonger ?

Thanks !

And to the other poster: The 'ALLEGED' affair could be just a mentoring relationship which is under the definition of WORK. Fred Fox has been the boss. No one really likes the boss. Spreading rumors about the boss should be in their job description.

I wish Fred would retire. The damage to the Huron City Schools has already been done and will take years to undo. With the leadership of Tim SOWecke and Co.. it could take decades.

Still Sold on Fox 3

Miss Research-

The 50 pages were totally slanted and did not include anything anyone had to say except those who had slanted information to provide. I hope as you read it YOU kept an open mind, (IF ANY ?).

Please go back and do some more research.

TaxRaider

Sold .... Was it Sowecke's Hometown News last week when Kevin Asher and John Caporini wrote a letter to the editor which spelled out the same information that was included in the injunction?  I thought you were open minded .... you quickley dismiss this letter to be written as a rumormoner. The writter gets her information from public records obtained from Huron City Schools, no third party lawfirm or someones spin on this one.  No rumors here, "just the facts ma'am".

http://www.huronhometownnews.com

You can read the letter online .... don't want to copy and paste or distort anything. 

 

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold,

I have come to the conclusion that you are a devil's advocate who posts nonsense just to see how many feathers you can ruffle.  Your defense of Fred Fox is comical, to say the least. 

As far as the letter to the editor, if you really haven't read it, you may want to.  It is a response to Kevin Asher's letter that was printed on June 28.  BTW, it was nice of Tim Sowecke to allow Kevin's letter to be printed...lol

http://www.huronhometownnews.com/

 

Julie R.

I read the Letter to the Editor in the Huron Hometown News by Sherry Catri and I thought it was excellent. It was in response to the June 28th Letter to the Editor by Mr. Asher and Mr. Caporini. Mrs. Catri said that Mr. Asher and Mr. Caporini's explanation of the Arizona trip hit a nerve and was less than truthful and she then went on to share what public records from the Board of Education supported. The last two paragraphs of her letter were also excellent and right on target.   

oh come on...

Sold - please tell me you've read the emails and not just the 50 page report!  Otherwise you have been yammering for two weeks with a fraction of the information.

Still Sold on Fox 3
oh come on... says

Sold - please tell me you've read the emails and not just the 50 page report! Otherwise you have been yammering for two weeks with a fraction of the information.

Oh - Although I've read the emails, can you show me what it is that I've missed that INCONCLUSIVELY shows that Fred Fox was having an affair on school time, (Which BTW, Fred Fox is on and off school time at various hours during the day because he actually has a 24/7 work week.).

Julie R. says

I read the Letter to the Editor in the Huron Hometown News by Sherry Catri and I thought it was excellent. It was in response to the June 28th Letter to the Editor by Mr. Asher and Mr. Caporini. Mrs. Catri said that Mr. Asher and Mr. Caporini's explanation of the Arizona trip hit a nerve and was less than truthful and she then went on to share what public records from the Board of Education supported. The last two paragraphs of her letter were also excellent and right on target.

Julie - I can't find Sherry Catri's letter anywhere on the Huron Hometown News web edition ? The Arizona trip, as I understand it, was for an educational conference where Fred Fox went to learn and benifit the Huron School System. He elected to take his wife. He paid for everything that concerned his wife. Apparently there was some trading going on as Fred Fox paid for this in return the board paid for that. Educational conferences are a legitimate reimbursable expense ? 

TaxRaider says

Sold .... Was it Sowecke's Hometown News last week when Kevin Asher and John Caporini wrote a letter to the editor which spelled out the same information that was included in the injunction? I thought you were open minded .... you quickley dismiss this letter to be written as a rumormoner. The writter gets her information from public records obtained from Huron City Schools, no third party lawfirm or someones spin on this one. No rumors here, "just the facts ma'am".

TaxRaider - I haven't read either letter and think that both distract from the 'facts' here. The 'facts' are that three Huron Board of Ed members, acting outside of the law, 'hired' an attorney to investigate the Huron City School's Superintendent, Fred Fox. One of the three board members, Tim SOWecke, hand delivered the illegally obtained report to the Ohio Ethics Commision to make the illegally obtained report a public record to make Fred Fox look bad, (which in it's own slanted way absolutely did make Fred Fox look bad). Kevin Asher filed an injunction attempting to not pay for the illegally obtained report. All the rest is conjecture. Fred Fox investigated 'toolgate'. He took an educational trip to Arizona. He took a team building trip to Wisconson. He mentored a superintendent candidate. I can make it look as good as slanted people can make it look bad ? If I wrote the Markling report would we even be talking about it now ? Just the 'facts' ma'am..

http://www.huronhometownnews.com

You can read the letter online .... don't want to copy and paste or distort anything. 

Can't read it online. Copy and paste it here, please. Both letters if you want. I really am not worried about you distorting any part of it !

 

Tsu Dho Nimh says

Sold,

I have come to the conclusion that you are a devil's advocate who posts nonsense just to see how many feathers you can ruffle. Your defense of Fred Fox is comical, to say the least.

As far as the letter to the editor, if you really haven't read it, you may want to. It is a response to Kevin Asher's letter that was printed on June 28. BTW, it was nice of Tim Sowecke to allow Kevin's letter to be printed...lol

TDN - LOLOL.. That is funny and true. All of what you have said. Well, not the part about the comical defense, because I am only defending that Fred Fox had some rights here, too. His rights were trampled by three overzealous board members. As I stated above, I can slant the whole mess as far as it's already been slanted. I think you should run for the board and would be a fine, educated candidate. If TaxRaider didn't already work for the school, she could run, too !

I'm sad this whole thing happened and wish it had happened differently. Fred Fox had to force his day in court and he's already been convicted in about 50% of the court of public opinion. Ask yourself, if you had not read the Markling report.. What would we be speculating on here ?

TaxRaider

Sold .... Tsu Dho Nimh

Based on what I have read in these blogs, I agree, Tsu Dho Nimh would make a great board member.  As for me, no way, I don't have the patience to deal with Huron politics.  I am a transplant, so no one would vote for me.  Someone, many blogs ago, assumed I work for Huron schools ... well I don't.  I am simply a taxpayer, as my name indicates, tired of having my piggybank raided by the tax collector. 

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold,

Just click on the link that TaxRaider provided and scroll to the second page - Around Town.  It's not hard to find.  You will see what was wrong with the "trading".

oh come on...

I'm sorry "Sold".  I just can't get past your use of the term "mentor".  Its mind-boggling.

Tsu Dho Nimh

Bang, boink, shag, mentor...it's all the same : )

Still Sold on Fox 3
Tsu Dho Nimh says

Bang, boink, shag, mentor...it's all the same : )

TDN - Hahahaha... You are funny ! Does it say Bang, Boink, or Shag anywhere in the Markling report or in the emails ? I do remember a reference of oral something, but it was he told me that Fred said.. Need I say more ? You are funny, though !

 

oh come on... says

I'm sorry "Sold". I just can't get past your use of the term "mentor". Its mind-boggling.

Oh - See comment above !
(Still no proof of it happening on the clock or an affair even happening. Two friends, mentorship.. I'll buy either).

 

Tsu Dho Nimh says

Sold,

Just click on the link that TaxRaider provided and scroll to the second page - Around Town. It's not hard to find. You will see what was wrong with the "trading".

TDN - I am not kidding when I say it's not there. The disfunctional website you have provided a link for does not allow me to see editions other than the current one which has a 'guest editorial' by Bill Steuk. I don't think Tim SOWecke has anything to do with the Huron Hometown News any more ? I was however sad to see that Delores Heydinger has passed away and would not have seen it if you two hadn't passed along the link, so thank you ! Please cut and paste the stupid letters so I can OFFICIALLY debate what this obvious scholar of Huron government has written.

Still Sold on Fox 3

TDN -

I'm dying to see what is wrong with the 'trading' as 'trading' goes on all day every day in every business including schools. Dying to see it. Could you post it, please ?

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold,

Cannot copy and paste the article from the site.  It is right above Judge Steuk's From the Bench.  I just click on the link provided and went directly to the July 12 edition of the Hometown News.  Mrs. Heydinger's obit is on page 3 and the Letter to the Editor is at the top of page 2.  It is a bit lengthy.

Julie R.

RE: Still Sold on Fox 3

Obviously you must not live in Huron because everybody gets this hand-delivered paper once a week. Nevertheless, if you didn't get one just go to any gas station in Huron. I believe even Discount Drug and most of the other stores in Huron have them, also.  

HuronRes

Julie,

Not sure if it indicates where anyone may live. I have lived in Huron all my life-at my
current residence for 3 yrs, and we have never received Hometown News at our
current location- and it's not like we live out in the sticks either. The other
places in town that we have lived we received it, and when we didn't receive it
here I emailed them asking why, but they never responded. So now we have to
pick it up at the gas station or at one of the stores in town

.

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold and TaxRaider,

Thanks for your support!  LOL

TaxRaider,

I think Sold must be reading the Blodgett edition of the Hometown News.  Remember how he didn't receive a letter from the attorney?  Sold's edition is missing the Letter to the Editor...LOL

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TDN and TaxRaider -

OK.. I got the letter and reprinted it with my interpretation. I have to say that Sherry Catri's putting her name on that letter deserves some praise, but I am absolutely, positively sure that Sherry Catri had help with it's contents.

I'm not afraid of conspiracies, they happen every day, but this is one !

And.. It goes both ways. There is a conspiracy to get rid of the people who circumvented the law in this mess. I'm glad the conspiracy is in place for this.

To think that school administrators and board members walk around with their heads stuffed with school/state/federal policies and laws is ludicris. Get real people.. They are people. They have a policy book that is all of ten inches thick. Sherry Catri claims that all know the laws and policies, or should. Well, maybe they should, but I know for a fact that the person who is the keeper of financial policies/laws/etc is the school's treasurer. The treasurer is responsible for raising red flags when something goes astray.

Two treasurers ago the treasurer was a drinking buddy with the last superintendent. This situation was unmanageable and was handled by the past board retiring the superintendent and firing the treasurer. These things happen.

The current treasurer SHOULD have seen what was wrong with the reimbursement for the Arizona trip. He should have given guidance to the Board who would in turn have given advice to the superintendent. Fred Fox has no part in what is reimbursed. This is strictly up to the treasurer followed by a vote by the board.

When Fred Fox found out he had been incorrectly reimbursed he promptly paid it back. Where is Fred Fox's culpability in this matter ?

OK... I feel the Arizona trip is no longer an issue and have Sherry Catri to thank for that. It's at least not Fred Fox's issue.

So now we have:
1)  'Toolgate' (Which, by the way. was not really a part of the Markling report)
2)  'The Affair' (Which none of the evidence proves more than a friendship, or mentorship)
3)  'The Golf Outing' (Which there are receipts for and was teambuilding)

What is next ?
It's about time for the Sandusky Register to come out with some more 'breaking' news ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jocko

Sowecke has absolutly nothing to do with the Huron Hometown News. He was hired when a group of investors including myself got together hoping to start a weekly paper that was local and would be communication for businesses, the city and the public to share. Sowecke was part of the FIRST ISSUE ONLY. He quit after the first issue. I just want to make that perfectly clear so there is no confusion. Let me know if you have any questions on this matter if it actually matters at all.

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Jocko-

Thanks for your input. This is what I suspected all along.

Well folks.. deleted for the 4th time here.. Well, I'm either being deleted or there's a glitch in the website ?

Anyways, I secured a copy of the Huron Hometown news. Not only the print copy.. I downloaded the web version, had one faxed to me from a friend and another friend scanned and emailed it to me... got it !

The following post I will read Sherri Catri's well researched 'indictment' and give you my take on it.

Hope you find it enlightening.. lol

You can now reach me at: ForFredFox2012@yahoo.com

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Ms. Catri: This letter is in response to the June 28th letter to the editor by Mr. Asher and Mr. Caporini. They lay out for the reader their side of the story regarding Mr. Fox and the actions of the other members. Their explanation of the Arizona trip hit a nerve and was less than truthful. I would like to share what public records obtained from the Huron Board of Education supports..

In October 2010, Mr. Fox indicated through email to the board members that he would like to attend the Effective Schools Conference in Scottsdale, Arizona and that he planned to pay his own airfare. Emails between four of the board members supported that he attend.

SoldOnFox:

*****Confirmation that 4, (four), board members supported the trip.

*****Confirmation that Fred Fox intended to pay his own airfare.

__________________________________________________________

Ms. Catri:  Mrs. Bulea shared that she felt the board should pay the airfare whereas Mrs. Green objected, although she stated that the others could vote in favor to pay.Airfare would have been a legitimate expense for the trip if the board they agreed to cover it. Mr. Fox confirmed that he was going to attend the conference and would cover his own travel expense.

SoldOnFox:

*****Confirmation that Fred Fox confirmed that he was attending the conference and would cover, (pay for), his travel expenses.

__________________________________________________________

Ms. Catri:  On 2/18/11 a purchase order number for $1500 was issued with Mr. Fox as the vendor. It was the approximate cost of food and lodging for the Effective Schools Conference with dates of March 2 – March 5, 2011. There is no documentation that supports he attended the March 1 preconference.

SoldOnFox:

*****Confirmation that the Huron Board of Education intended to pay Fred Fox’s travel expenses before he left for the trip.

___________________________________________________

Ms. Catri:  On 3/7/11 a check was issued to Mr. Fox that included the expenses for the conference. What was included but not permissible:  Lodging at $165 per night from 2/26 through 2/28 -he was only eligible for 3/1- 3/4 as he flew home on 3/5.

SoldOnFox:

Fred Fox’s travel did not conform to the exact dates of the conference. I’m in agreement that the $165 per night before the conference should not be reimbursable unless the days were spent doing something related to the schools. Although, if the Huron Board of Education agreed to pick up Fred Fox’s lodging, it is their gaff, not Fred Fox’s. Ms. Catri is claiming here that Fred Fox flew out to the conference sight on 2/26/2011 ?

______________________________________________

Ms. Catri:  Food bill from 2/27 for $30.14 - not only was is not permissible because of the date, it was not itemized. The school board policy requires that all bills be itemized. A charge from the hotel/resort’s restaurant on 3/4 for $30.15 and not itemized - the establishment serves both food and alcohol and alcohol is not permissible.The board does not even know what they paid for when approving this expense.

 

SoldOnFox:

So.. The $30.15 is a legitimate reimbursable expense but it is not itemized. This would be on the treasurer. (And to ease your panic, I’ve never seen Fred Fox take a drink in the years that I’ve known him).

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Ms. Catri:   Rental car from 2/26 through 3/5 for a total of $373.37- Mr. Fox picked up and returned the car at the hotel. The use of public monies only allows rental cars if there is no shuttle service from the airport to the hotel or if public transportation is not available to reach the conference. The brochure for the conference indicates that both were available. Reimbursement of the rental car fee was not a legitimate expense.

SoldOnFox:

*****Once again.. Fred Fox had a rental car and used it to go to and from the conference. Ms. Catri acts as if the Board and it’s employees have a pocket reference book of the laws/rules. This falls into the area of not knowing, not willfully attempting to pull one over. There is an absence of malice. (And.. Once again, even I would find it not reimbursable to have the rental car before 3/01, unless there was other school business going on).

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Ms. Catri:  Late Feb. 2012, a year after the Arizona trip, Mr. Fox writes a personal check to the district for the amount similar to the cost of the rental car. This is after the internal investigation begins regarding a separate issue.

SoldOnFox-
*****Confirmation that when the parties involved, (the Board of Ed, the Superintendent and the Treasurer), found out that the rental car expense was not reimbursable they acted on it and Fred Fox wrote a check for the amount. He did the right thing and you are making it look like people were covering it all up ? What part did Fred Fox play in this except to go to a conference with the blessing of the Board and then turn in his expenses which he was told were covered ?

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Ms. Catri:  Mr. Asher and Mr. Caporini state in their letter that Mr. Fox only submitted one food receipt which is not true. He turned in a total of three with only one for $8.49 that was within the approved dates and itemized. They also state that the food at the resort was expensive yet they approve a non-itemized charge of $30.15. They did not even take the time to review the expenses but were eager to share the “truth”.

SoldOnFox -

*****Once again.. Caporini and Asher are not the only Board members and there is also a treasurer. No one seemed to question the itemization of the bills ? And what about the rest of Fred Fox’s meals ? Did he only eat 3 times while there ? Or did he only put in to be reimbursed for three meals and you are complaining about that ?
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Ms. Catri:  All board members must have been aware of the district policy and the use of public monies policy. Mr. Caporini as an experienced board member and Mr. Asher with his legal background should have known that what they approved was unethical and illegal.

SoldOnFox -

*****Once again, Ms. Catri.. Caporini and Asher are only two of five. All of them put together probably aren’t aware of most district policy unless it’s brought to their attention. They are not professional board members. They are citizens like yourself, but these five stepped up to the plate to represent you. They stuck their collective necks out for you. I assure you that not one person on the Huron Board of Education knew that there was anything wrong with the reimbursement or it wouldn’t have happened. 

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Ms. Catri:  Mr. Fox as the superintendent would have been aware of the district policy and the use of public monies policy and Mr. Weis as the board treasurer knew that this was wrong but paid it anyway at the direction of board members. This was a poor decision on his part. All parties involved knew what they were doing and are equally responsible.

SoldOnFox -

*****Once again, Ms Catri, the people you have listed probably had no idea anything was out of the ordinary with the exception of one.. The treasurer. He is the money man. He is the one selected and hired specifically to watch the money. He knows the rules and regs. He is in place to keep the Board informed as to what is right, wrong and in the middle. The Superintendent runs the school day to day by working with his administrators. The treasurer has two assistants and THEY DO EVERYTHING FINANCIALLY ORIENTED !

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Ms. Catri:  This was not an error in judgment. This was an abuse of authority and intentional misuse of taxpayer money. They knew the rules but chose not to follow them. In my opinion, Mr. Asher, Mr. Caporini, and Mrs. Bulea did not think that anyone would ever learn of what they did. They were to be stewards of the taxpayers’ purse but instead used our money as an entitlement.
Sherry Catri

*SoldOnFox -
****I’m not even going to dignify these last comments with too much of a response except to say I have answered these statements above. To say this was an intentional misuse of taxpayer money is comical. These people you have named have nothing to gain from this. Once again I am going to assure you that this could not have been intentional or it would not have been done. You only name Bulea, Asher and Caporini in your ‘indictment’, Ms. Catri ? Weren’t there two other Board members that had to also be in ‘cahoots’ with these three ?

Ms. Catri is your hero people of the posts ? Why don’t we elect her to the school board since she knows the polices/procedures/rules/laws ?

She researched emails, receipts and board policy and comes up with ‘intentional misuse’?

Trust me when I say that the Huron Board of Education, at that time, did not intentionally do anything wrong. Neither did Fred Fox.

With all of Ms. Catri’s research laid out there is one person who should have known what is reimbursable and what wasn’t. The treasurer. This person is professionally trained to know these things and has a weekly meeting with the Board president to talk about these types of issues and to sign papers like authorization of funds for travel.

Fred Fox went to a school related conference. The Huron Board of Ed, (all 5 of them), gave the OK to cover his expenses. He barely ate. He turned in receipts. When told of the mistake, (rental car), he promptly paid the cost of it back.

How can you possibly villainize Fred Fox in this matter ?

(I have not even corrected the spelling in this poorly written ‘indictment’.)..

 

 

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold,

All I can say is you can twist anything and your response is quite entertaining.  Either you missed the entire point or you just want a reaction/debate. Either way, its not worth my time.

If you are looking for a name change or update, why not consider Sold on Stupid.  It suits your arguement well.

And as for Mrs. Catri running for the school board, would you be interesting in running her campaign?

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TDN -

I am not the one twisting anything here. I am actually attempting to untie the tangled mess that has been woven here, and illegally I might add.

The twisters are like Ms. Catri. You did get my point that you can spin information to make it fit your cause. TDN.. I am not the one. This whole thing was way twisted before I uttered my first post.

The name change is not by my choice. Someone keeps rendering my account unusable ? Another part of this conspiracy ?

I will keep coming back.. (If only to entertain you, TDN.. lol)

I am not arguing Ms. Catri's points. They are real and have merit, but if you really read my post you should see that I'm not saying that the Arizona trip was handled correctly. My point is that it is not on Fred Fox's back where the blame should set. He does not make policy. He does not watch the finances except for keeping an eye on the big picture for the future of the school system. He has a working knowledge of school finance, but he is not the treasurer.

I am totally sincere when I say that the treasurer is the one who should have known what was the proper thing to do and the proper way to reimburse the Arizona trip.

I know you are intelligent enough to understand this.

Maybe you should change your name to: Γνωρίζουμε όλα  ?

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TDN -

Now there's a name change by my choice !

Tsu Dho Nimh

I would but it's all Greek to me!  Ya know...lol

 

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Well well..

Old news already. I can't wait to hear what the state has to say !

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