Huron board member files injunction

Huron School Board member Kevin Asher has filed an injunction against the board, three board members and the school treasurer.
Sandusky Register Staff
Jul 2, 2012

Huron School Board member Kevin Asher has filed an injunction against the board, three board members and the school treasurer.

Asher, represented by W. Patrick Murray, has asked the court to grant him a temporary injunction preventing the school district for paying McGown & Markling for an investigative report it prepared for the district looking into the activities of superintendent Fred Fox. (See the McGown & Markling report HERE.)

Read the full document below.

Comments

underthebridge

Just curious -- Given that Kevin Asher is an attorney, is he going to file a complaint with the Ohio Supreme Court re: the conduct of Attorney Markling?  He says that the report is biased, slandered, and below the standard of care, then he should also file the complaint there.   The Ohio Supreme Court would conduct their investigation into the professional conduct of Markling free of charge.  

Tsu Dho Nimh

Anyone and $50 can file a lawsuit.

Kevin Asher, you better be prepared to defend YOURSELF with legal counsel when the truth about your actions as a school board member comes out.  Mr. Caporini should be concerned, too!

Sold On Fox 2

TDN-

This is serious and just as some of us on here have been describing it. This is a witch hunt and is fully spelled out in Kevin Asher's injunction. I'm proud that a Huron Board of Education member finally followed the procedures and within the law gave us a 'public' document worth reading.

This injunction spells out what Fred Fox has done and it's about time !

Asher and Caporini were against the procedure, not the investigation. It was the truth that the 'investigation' was slanted and also violated the Sunshine Law when the three rogue board members approved it on there own and outside of a board meeting.

Thank God for Kevin Asher. He did it the right way !

TheIrish

 This is exactly the injunction I have been waiting for since this story broke... Kevin Asher, thank you for producing the injunction. I believe that anyone and everyone interested in this topic read this injunction before allowing one more comment to slip from your lips. I think the injunction describes perfectly what is going on here. Now that the truth is printed in black & white, the Fred Fox who has been supporting the schools and the community in general may enjoy a moment of serenity in all this. How dare these conspirators waste the tax money without approval and for what purpose? Fred Fox wasn't even involved with the Kalahari Real Estate taxes! This was a witch hunt from the start. If there was an inappropriate relationship, and that's a huge if, it had nothing to do with taxes, job performance, a breach of any ethics, or a parallel of Fox's judgement. Slocum I hope Huron bans Ace Hardware. I will never have any use for you. And shame on the others as well. Again, I commend Asher for his willingness to stand beside a great administrator and protect the schools from paying outrageous fees for a slanted report that the three principal so called "violators" never had a chance to comment on because they never received an invitation to interview.

Sold On Fox 2

TheIrish-

I only wish there was a 'LIKE' button !

Great post !

Sold On Fox 2

Support Fred Fox on Facebook !

http://www.facebook.com/?sk=welcome#!/SupportFredFox

Fred Fox has no connection to this social media site.
This is soley in support of him and not involving him personally.
Friends of Fred Fox please follow the link !

Sold On Fox 2

Tim SOWecke made sure the documents went public no matter what the other Huron Board of Education members thought.

This is who represents us ? There's other places to buy hardware.

Support Fred Fox on Facebook !

http://www.facebook.com/?sk=welcome#!/SupportFredFox

Fred Fox has no connection to this social media site.
This is soley in support of him and not involving him personally.
Friends of Fred Fox please follow the link !

Tsu Dho Nimh

Irish

The truth isn't in black and white, Kevin Asher's point of view is in black and white.  He accuses the law firm to have reported on hearsay but his take is nothing but hearsay.  He cannot prove Mr. Sowecke's motives anymore than we can prove the intentions behind the whistle blowers.  Mr. Asher claims that Mr. Sowecke shared that he met McGown/Markling at the new school board members conference and Mr. Sowecke says he never made that statement.  There is no way to verify the conversation.  It is fair to say that neither man has much professional, or perhaps even personal, respect for one another.  Just because Mr. Asher is an attorney does not mean that he doesn't have his own personal agenda.  He admitted some things that he approved for Fred Fox in the public portion of the last meeting that clearly violates the board policy; the use of public monies, and the IRS, just to name a few.

I think Mr. Fox is going to thank Kevin Asher in the long run because Mr. Asher may be exposing himself as the real problem of how the district got itself into this legal mess.

For $50, any fool can file a lawsuit!

 

Tsu Dho Nimh

Irish

The truth isn't in black and white, Kevin Asher's point of view is in black and white.  He accuses the law firm to have reported on hearsay but his take is nothing but hearsay.  He cannot prove Mr. Sowecke's motives anymore than we can prove the intentions behind the whistle blowers.  Mr. Asher claims that Mr. Sowecke shared that he met McGown/Markling at the new school board members conference and Mr. Sowecke says he never made that statement.  There is no way to verify the conversation.  It is fair to say that neither man has much professional, or perhaps even personal, respect for one another.  Just because Mr. Asher is an attorney does not mean that he doesn't have his own personal agenda.  He admitted some things that he approved for Fred Fox in the public portion of the last meeting that clearly violates the board policy; the use of public monies, and the IRS, just to name a few.

I think Mr. Fox is going to thank Kevin Asher in the long run because Mr. Asher may be exposing himself as the real problem of how the district got itself into this legal mess.

For $50, any fool can file a lawsuit!

 

Sold On Fox 2

TDN-

It won't be in black and white because all of the communications happened in executive session where no minutes are taken. What we didn't see and hear are the arguments there, but Kevin Asher's injunction spells out that the two of them, (Caporini and Asher), suggested a different route and only approved Markling for 10 free hours.

That's all in black and white !

Respectfully,

Sold on Fox 2

TaxRaider

I am a bit confused, someone help me out.  On one hand Mr. Asher said a vote can not be taken in executive session because this violates the Sunshine Law.  Now I read the vote to turn the investigation over to the OEC, instead of the Markling group, happened during executive session therefore there is no record of it.

This is what I see in the minutes.  Why didn't a BOE member make a motion to continue the investigation through the OEC.  This motion was too broad, it includes a declaration of wrong doing.  How could the BOE determine no wrong doing if the OEC had not investigated the aligations?

 

"Mr. Asher moved, seconded by Mr. Caporini to terminate the investigation of the Superintendent and to issue a declaration of no wrong doing. 

Ayes:  Caporini, Asher

Nays:  Green, Slocum, , and Sowecke:

 

Swamp Fox

So does Mr. Asher rec use himself from all further actions/proceedings involving Fred Fox since they now share the same attorney/law firm in this matter? 

 

Sold on Fox 2, question do you have know if Mr. Fox has a morals clause in his employment contract?

 

 

Tsu Dho Nimh

Swamp Fox

Excellent question and a valid concern.

 

Sold on Fox

You are correct about the privacy of executive session.  Also, please note that minutes are NOT required for discussions in executive session.  Most likely there is no record of anything discussed out side of the public meetings. Again, I stand by my opinion that what Mr. Asher states happened cannot be proved or disproved.  His injunction is that of a personal opinion and perspective and not of facts that a prudent person or member of the legal system can determine wrong doing WITHIN THE LAW. 

He is wasting our time, embarrassing the board more, and making Mr. Murray richer.

retired08

 Wow!!!!! This must set the bar for somehing going viral!!!!

 I have to agree with the issues raised as to the competence and motivations of the "firm" that conducted the investigation.  Read that half a**ed report that cost 50k .  Their off the wall determnation of who is or is not credible leaves me speechless. A person is either credible or not. There are not shades of creibility. You are either a liar or not. So on that basis alone this report should be an embaressment to any licensed attorney.

And as far as the employment conract Mr. Fox has with the district go back and read it. No morality clauses or anything like that are in it so rather than spend thousands of dollars during these economic times trying fire the guy just let him serve out his contract and don't rehire him. In other words, build a bridge and get over it.

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold on Fox

What will be proven is that Mr. Asher and Mr. Caporini, along with Nancy Bulea approved the additional expenses to be paid for the March 2011 Arizona trip.  They also instructed the treasurer, who answers directly to the board, to pay said expenses.  Did the treasurer feel bullied or is he part of the group?  Don't know but he had to know it was wrong when he dispersed the check to Mr. Fox. Mr. Asher made this very clear at the last meeting during the public portion that the board approved the personal expenses instead of paying airfare and that Mr. Fox has done a great job leading the district. He was clearing Mr. Fox of wrong doing in the matter.  Even told the crowd to ask Nancy Bulea if we did not believe him. The emails between 4 of the board members on public record support that three of them felt that he was deserving of some extras.  The LAW  and POLICIES on so many levels (Federal, State, and local) were ignored.  EXPERIENCED board members should know what is legal and what is not!!!!! He should be worried about his own neck and quit worrying about Mr. Fox, his golf buddy. (And he did admit to joining Fred on golf outings prior to becoming a board member!)

Darkhorse

It seems odd that Murray is representing both Fox and a school board member at the same time and over the same subject?  Where are the affidavits?  What a mess.   People are going to have to swear to tell the truth somewhere along the line.

car 54

    Huron City schools need pray and understanding.  I could care less who Fox slept with. 

donutshopguy

 Sold on Fox 2,

Isn't this lawsuit regarding the " Fred Fox Fiasco" bringing more embarrassment to the city of Huron?

Or is this public laundering of issues exceptable in your eyes ?

 

 

Sit n Spin

Sweet baby Jesus....everyone involved in this mess has taken a giant dump in their lunch pails !  I hope they all have deep personal bank accounts !  The taxpayer is not going to foot the bill for their behavior !

Sold On Fox 2

DonutShopGuy-
Obviously you are not embarressed by anything said or done by anyone including yourself ?
I still think you may be Tim SOWecke. How's business today, Tim ?

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Asher's injunction only documents what I have been saying all along,
(and no.. I'm not an Asher.. hahaha)..
So.. All along this whole 'affair' could have been settled and Fred Fox could have been punished, (or not), by just turning over the whole mess to the Ohio Ethics Commission without making Fred Fox 'allegations' public or spending $50,000+ ?  Where did we ALL hear this before ?

This is not about what Fred Fox did, or did not do, it is ONLY about an opportunity to publicly smear Fred Fox and obviously Mr. Asher did not put it in writing with a Murray, or two, for nothing.

Asher's injunction tells why it happened and how it happened. IT DOES NOT MINCE WORDS and unlike the Board's 'not really officially hired' attorney's entirely slanted report.. there is actually stated who said what and when.. not he told me, she told me, they said, etc..

To correct a posted inaccuracy: The H-Team is not affiliated with the Huron Athletic Boosters, nor has it been since the early 90's. The H-Team began with about ten guys from the booster club who ACTUALLY painted the big H in the middle of the Huron Football field. The H-Team is now  a group of guys who do things for the football team. Period. Now.. as individuals do these same guys do things for others ? Sure.

(Funny that the same guy who pulls the H-Teams strings is also the puppet master in this whole debacle ? Couldn't help calling the red kettle black this time, DSG).. 

I agree with your comment DonutShopGuy, to clean house and start fresh. This entire battle is politics gone crazy like some video from another country's parliment where one Chinese politician slaps another one. What's next ? Strap on boxing gloves with Sowecke being the biggest, so he rules ?

So.. DonutShopGuy and anyone else who still thinks that this was all handled correctly and that Fred Fox belongs on the FBI's top ten list.. Fred Fox is human, but the only concrete evidence that he did something wrong was not sold by Huron Cement. It was quite to the contrary, brought to the attention by some revengeful political wannabe's Hell bent on causing some chaos.

When chaos reigns, no one pays attention to what's really going on.

Sold On Fox 2

Support Fred Fox on Facebook !

http://www.facebook.com/?sk=welcome#!/SupportFredFox

This Facebook page is in no way connected to, nor is it under the direction of Huron City School's superintendent, Fred Fox.

donutshopguy

 Sold on Fox 2,

So you are in agreement that any position above teacher in administration, including the board, should be dismissed? If we are going to clean house don't do it half a$$ed.

Anytime you want to get together let me know. I'm not afraid to let you know who I am. Are you afraid of letting mre know who you are?

 You are mistaken. The H-Team is under the umbrella of the Booster Club. For liability and financial reasons. Also, I have been a part of H-Team fundraisers and assistance for other sports. 

Sold On Fox 2

You know I'm messing with you DonutShopGuy.. But don't let me stop you from announcing who you are to all of these fine posters. Next you'll have a boycott of your business by those who don't agree with your statements. No thanks !

And my saying the H-Team is not part of the Huron Athletic Boosters is an absolutely true statement. You can play semantics and claim that the H-Team is remotely interested in other sports, but we both know the truth. The umbrella for liability reasons is a reasonable statement. In other words the H-Team was forced to do business with the Huron Athletic Boosters because they could not/would not form their own 5013C Non-Profit. So... whether you have been a part of the H-Team or not, let's not be delusional.

And in answer.. I don't know what else would be the proper road to follow ? How can any of these people ever work together again ? It is obviously a totally disfunctional work place. Would you want your children in this atmosphere ?

Thanks for the offer DonutShopGuy, but the coffee is not worth the fallout.

Sold On Fox 2

and DonutShopGuy-

Please do not take my words out of context and imagine in any way, shape or form that I am saying the H-Team is not doing a lot of great things for Huron kids. In my mind, at one time, the H-Team meant a lot more than just a bunch of Dad's cooking hotdogs. But.. certain elements in the 'organization' spent a lot of effort becoming just another exclusionary club like the 'Sons of Alvito'.

I'm definately not against them, but am not for them, either. I'm Switzerland.. Nuetral.

donutshopguy

 Sold on Fox 2,

Thought so!  When you get called out you folded like a house of cards.

Should we all assume your comments have the same strength, in truth. to them?  Thought so, again!

I stand behind what I have said on this blog.  I have no problem proving who I am. I am neither embarrassed by my comments or afraid.  Can't say the same for you.

 

Again, I have participated in activities with the H-Team that were not only for the football team. I have experience with the truth. You are either jealous or ill informed. Which one is it?

Sold On Fox 2

I explained my stance DonutShopGuy.

Go ahead and say who you are since you so boldly proclaimed my lack of intestinal fortitude to do so.

Be the man you say you are, Tim Sowecke.

What earthshaking news have you ever provided on here ? If you are so unafraid and unembarrassed show yourself. Simple. Be what you say or be what you are calling me. I have no need to prove anything to the likes of you. I have hit a nerve talking about your holy H-Team and it is rather fun to watch you defend this exclusionary group that shouldn't even exist because there is already a booster club.

I would say that everything you have called me is true about yourself and it bothers you for some reason ?

Come clean, Tim. We all want to know you better.

Imataloss

It's time for everyone to put their pride aside and settle this manner.  Give Fred a buyout, pay Markley a reduced sum and move on.  TDM is right - at this point, the only ones that are going to win are the lawyers and certainly not the taxpayers.  Wrap it up people. 

Imataloss

It's time for everyone to put their pride aside and settle this manner.  Give Fred a buyout, pay Markley a reduced sum and move on.  TDM is right - at this point, the only ones that are going to win are the lawyers and certainly not the taxpayers.  Wrap it up people. 

donutshopguy

 I think what you might see by the general public is the total removal of the board of education and the whole administrative staff. Out with everyone who is not a teacher or below that level.

Sounds like a fresh start.  

HeatinHuron

This is getting out of control. It may be time to remove the entire board and start fresh. Too many board members with other agendas rather than the best interests of the children of Huron!!  just a mess.....Shameful

worddrow811

Be sure to read the Editorial in tonights paper from the past board members.

8ballinthesidepocket

 If you think Markly's bill is too high, wait until you get the invoice from Murray and Murray!!! Probably ten grand just to file the injunction motion. Attorneys 2, Huron students 0 .

WhatTheHeck

 Wow! Huron and thier drama was crazy back in the early 70's but wow. WOW. Drugs were rampant back then but I'm thinkin it's a flash back to the days! Somebody is havin a trip!!!

Informed

Okay, here's the deal no matter who says what.  Fox took free golf outings on more than one occasion from Kalahari.  He is not allowed to accept any gift over $25 from a vendor--that is in the Ohio code of ethics/conduct.

He used school email and time to conduct a personal illicit relationship for several months (not a short time).  Also, against code of ethics/conduct.

"Toolgate" is very suspicious.  Many people have thought this for quite some time.

Now, if anything can be actually PROVEN against the school board, and not just Asher's statements of opinion, then that is a different issue and can be dealt with separately.  It doesn't change what Fox did.

TaxRaider

Informed .. well said ... the BOE's actions or lack of action doesn't eliminate the need to look into the issues you mention.  Also, what about the Arizona trip, it looks as though the district paid for the Superintendent to vacation for a day or two.  The BOE may have meant to reimburse Mr. Fox for his plane ticket but his receipts indicate something else. 

HuronCleanHouseNOW

 Curious to know a few things:  Is the H-Team a part of the Huron Booster Club?  Does the H-Team support all athletic boy and girl teams?

donutshopguy

 HuronCleanHouseNOW,

The H-Team is under the umbrella of the Athletic Booster Club. It's primary focus is the football team but I know they help other sports and individuals when ask.

Darwin's choice

Informed.....you're suspicious.  That statement has the same validity as "people believe in aliens".....I read it on the register blog, so it must be true!  Your armchair quarterbacking is exactly what the schoolboard members were counting on for the witch hunt.  I'm very concerned about the actions of this board ten times more that what Fred has been accused of.  Huron's school system has been thrown out with the bath water................  School starts in less than 70 days, do you think that we will have a functional board and school staff by then?

TaxRaider

Darwin ... aliens really?  Read the emails ... one emails says sorry about the rates but we will make it up with complimentary golf.  Aliens didn't land, I read it in the emails, not the blogs.  Look at the receipts for the Arizona trip.

I am also concerned about the actions of the board ... this a terrible situation caused by many folks who are not fulfilling their job or elected responsibilities.

Informed

No, Darwin, many people in the community, including school district employees, have been questioning the way toolgate was handled since the beginning.  And too many coincidences, including the lack of security tapes, corroborate those suspicions.  While that's not proof, it should be investigated in a more thorough manner.

The rest of what I said is not a witch hunt.  They are facts.  And why are you more concerned about lay people making mistakes in what is almost a volunteer position than a professional who makes over $100, 000 a year and is expected to follow his profession's code of ethics?

As I said, being concerned about what the school board members may or may not have done does not change what FACTS show that Fox did.

HHGUY
Now I am totally confused. I just read this Asher injunction thing. It appears that the basis of his entire claim is violations of the Sunshine Law. But wasn’t there an attorney at the last Board meeting that said the Sunshine Law has no teeth and it is only a $500 fine. So who is right? I don’t know who spoke at the meeting and if that attorney is more experienced. Does anyone know who this is?  Does he/she have the whiskers of Murray and Murray?  Also, aren’t they (M&M) Plaintiff attorneys and don’t they work on a 33% cut. What do you all make of this? I am now really confused. Who is right? They both can’t be.  Again, we know Murray and Murray but who was the expert at the last Board meeting?  Does anyone know?
crazyrick

Instead of dealing with these IDIOTS that are paid by the tax payer how's about dealing with some of the problems your school has like no in school suspension's I have a 16 year old that spent his freshmen year at huron high.  7 suspensions all out of school. Now after the first 3 i think the parents should have been held responsable. I talk to "oh i better not say his name or they won't post this"  Taxpayer paid employee told me they did'nt have the facilities or staff to do a in school suspendtion, but with them high tax's you should beable to afford it.  Check this out, my son gets a 3 day OOSS  on a wednesday goes home for thursday,friday and of course monday. Stays home and plays XBOX.

I would have perfered them to make him clean toilets ,floors,lockers get creative who care's. Don't send him homes dummies. He played ya.  LOL   And lets not forget his 22 absent !!!! Since  then I have custody and he's in PC  Honar roll  perfect attendance  get ta that Huron  YOU SUCK   LOL

 

Darwin's choice

Taxraider and Informed.........please go purchase a print paper and read the " Readers Forum".  Also, do you have some specific allegations against someone? Or, are you simply trying to generate more problems?  Your words here seem to reflect an aggrieved party of the "toolgate", whatever that is! Are you an employee of the schools? 

TaxRaider



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Darwin …. I did read today’s Readers' Forum and agree with much that was written.  I also read the Huron Hometown News letter to the editor from Mr. Ahser and Mr. Caporini.

Funny, I question some actions of the Superintendent, Board Members and the Treasurer and I’m trying to cause greater problems or I must be a disgruntled employee.  I have questions and they have not been answered to my satisfaction.  I also believe the Board does not have the objectivity to answer the questions raised. They certainly have proven my point over the last several weeks.  The Ohio Ethics Commission and the Ohio Department of Education are the objective means to answer my questions.

The professional code of conduct that governs the teaching profession says an educator can not accept anything of value greater than $25 from an organization that does business with the district.  Mr. Fox’s emails indicate he received free golf from Kalahari.   If this is so, he may have violated the code of ethics.

Mr. Fox attended a conference in Arizona that was approved by the BOE, however, he submitted receipts for reimbursement for a few nights stay before the conference began and was reimbursed.  The Board says they were reimbursing him for the plane ticket he purchased when they paid for the additional nights stay.  Really, why not simply reimburse him for the plane ticket?  This sounds like an after the fact cover up. Why was a rental car needed?  Look through the receipts, some of them are not itemized as required by public funds policies.  I don’t accept this as laxed or sloppy accounting practices.  This is a problem with the Superintendent, Board Members, and the Treasurer.

These are just two of the questions I will address for the purposes of this blog.  Like Informed, I don’t think the grandstanding of Board Members should allow folks to forget the fundamental policies and practices that started this mess. As a taxpayer, member of the community, and parent of children within the Huron School District, I have the right to ask questions or gnenerate more problems as you put it, Darwin.

HHGUY

What business relationship does Kalahari have with the Huron School District? 

Retiree

For the taxpayer in Huron: Keep your superintedent and let him represent your community by breaking all the ethics laws that exist within the State of Ohio. Golf for administration personal at a reduced rate, having an affair during working hours, telling  administration personal to have people moving into the area, to support a local real estate company, because he is your friend, (question: was he in return receiving any compensation for doing so?) , ordering removal of video tapes so personal can bring back stolen items, involved with Kalahari Real Estate Taxes, submitting additional bills for a trip tp Arizona without merit. Those are good reason to keep a person like that to represent your school district

I am somewhat confused by the injuction filed. There are actualizations but no proof.  As for releasing the charges, his attorney and supporters requested those charges. Remember his attorney demanding the records. You got them, now cry in your beer at the local pub. Maybe he will be there with his girlfriend.     

EZOB

I'll say again,even trade, we'll give you Gunner for Fox.  We'll take Asher and you can have your choice.  Huron would lose and Perkins wins.  Fox can go to Sandusky, He'll have many choices.

worddrow811

I find this whole mess to be a subversive and punitive attempt to change the power structure in the Huron City Schools and Board of Education.

The person who wrote the anonymous letter succeeded beyond their wildest dreams to stir up trouble without taking any of the heat! Shame on you and you know what you are, a coward. Identify yourself and have the guts to stand before this town and admit why you did such a cowardly thing!

With that said, put the parties involved in a room, with the previous school board members listed in today's editorial, and GET THIS WORKED OUT AND FINISHED. You owe the students and the taxpayers of this town at least that much for all the shame you have inflicted on your friends and neighbors.

fica

 Kein Asher-it is better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than  to open your mouth and remove all doubt.  Seriously ,what is wrong with you?  If you hired someone at your business and they failed to perform up to par, how long would you keep them? Then, add in the immoral part and all.  And you are purposly defendinding him publically? You may actually have taken some of the embarrassment away from Fred Fox. 

Darwin's choice

............So.........you are employed by the school system.................!

Retiree

Huron School Board has two members that have a monetary agenda with the superintendent. These two people feel they have to protect this person and it will cost the taxpayers a lot of money. They want to put the blame on the rest of the board but they are the ones to blame for future expenses Their agenda is going to destroy the reputation of past board members and let the taxpayers see how much corruption has gone on. It will not be an investigation anymore, it will be depositions.  I do not understand why a person would want to expose himself and past members with all the "little games" that went on with your tax dollars.

The future will be very interesting.

Put all your refuge in the Lord and none in man.

underthebridge

Perkins residents will remember that now incarcerated McClung filed a lawsuit against township commissioner Dwelle when it was becoming increasingly clear that the heat was on.  

From a SR article about his sentencing:  

"During a lengthy recess, Carr obtained records from McClung's 2006 harassment lawsuit against Dwelle to see if McClung might have brought the suit to cover his tracks.

 

In the suit, McClung claimed -- among other things -- that Dwelle falsely accused him of stealing inventory from the department.

Dwelle's accusations turned out to be true.

"You knew Mr. Dwelle was on to you?" Carr asked.

"Yes, your honor,"  McClung said. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tsu Dho Nimh

Darwin

You're right!  Tax Raider must be a school employee...probably salty because he had to turn his tools back in.  Lucky for him the cameras were malfunctioning! (please insert sarcastic tone)

Darkhorse

E-mails don't lie.  It is all  there in black and white. Huron has written documentation.  As for the Sunshine Law and ignoring it, most of the Sunshine Law is written into the Ohio Revised Code and that  is nothing to be ignored.

OnlyinHuron

 What's with this Asher family?  First Needham, now they want to keep a law breaker in charge of a school.  Whats next for "the Ashers"?  What gets me the most is the way Fox sees the people of Huron.  His sarcastic remark about how the good people of Huron want to save the world with the wind turbine, shows his true view of what he thinks of the people of Huron.  They should get someone in that position who really wants to be there to help, not just for the paycheck and free stuff.  Maybe the public (who pay his salary) should vote whether they want to keep him after all of this, not rely on the school board who might not hold the same concerns as they did when they were elected into that position.

HeatinHuron

Asher knows he can't save Fox. . But his problem is that he owes Fox many many favors......he is getting in over his head!!

Tsu Dho Nimh

Shared By Sold

Asher's injunction tells why it happened and how it happened. IT DOES NOT MINCE WORDS and unlike the Board's 'not really officially hired' attorney's entirely slanted report.. there is actually stated who said what and when.. not he told me, she told me, they said, etc..

So are you saying that Asher had these conversation DIRECTLY with the people of the who, what, and where?  Everything that he states is from a face to face conversation with the people who he names? Wow!  I am in awe that he could get the puppet master to confess his sins to him.

My point:  Kevin Asher IS reporting he said-she said but is using names and dates.  Unless these people will support his story in a deposition, he has nothing at all.

 

 

(Funny that the same guy who pulls the H-Teams strings is also the puppet master in this whole debacle ? Couldn't help calling the red kettle black this time, DSG).. 

Sold, please use Mr. Asher as a model and don't mince words.  Quit referring to the puppet master and say what you really mean, the football coach.

 

 

Tsu Dho Nimh

Posted by Sold on Fox 6/22 9:07pm

I want to appologize to those of you who posted earlier who were asking for facts that I thought I had due to believing what I had been told from some pretty good sources. Now I am led to believe that there may have been some 'covering up' being done in what I was told.

Just a question to Sold:  Did you find some new sources for the recent comments that you have been sharing?

Sold On Fox 2

Hahaha... TDN leave it to you to rehash my 'crow eating'.

You know I was referring to the Markling document and I still stand by my thought that if there were nothing, there would be no rumors, it's just a matter of the severity. BUT I fell into believing some of the people who were interviewed including John Ruff who is, in my opinion, a stand up guy. (Although after rereading his 'testimony' and others I found them to also contain the 'he told me this', 'she told me this').

You got me in a weak moment... hahahahaha...

My source is usually me, TDN. I am a Huron historian and have watched and learned and connected the dots. There is no mystery as to who the 'puppet master' is but my posts get deleted when I name his name ? So.. You know who I am referring to.

As for Kevin Asher, his injunction names names and I am POSITIVE that the Murrays and Murrays are not going to put their names to something they cannot at least have a good chance of proving. You suggested Fred Fox, Asher and Caporini hire another attorney 'famous' for defending criminals, but look who they got ? The kings of lawsuits !

Do not make me go back and reread all of your posts as we are both profolic posters and it will take some time, but I will gather your 'type bites'.. Like: 'Any idiot can file for $50'... Not with the Murrays attached !

Be happy TDN. Both sides of the 'story' are on the table. Now to sort out the truth.

Huron Grad

I have read all of the blogs, the report, and all of the attachments. I'm really disturbed that some people live their lives through the blogs.  Some reveal rumors just to get things started. Some are cruel. It's really getting old.

My first and hopefully last blog is based on my opinion.

One, 99% of the H-Team members are Huron Athletic Booster Club members.  They want to help the football team, just like some people want to help the volleyball team, or the basketball teams. Most people who don't like the H-Team are just plain jealous, in my opinion, because they can't understand how hundreds of men and women would want to help the football team.  It's called pride. It's called devotion.  It's called love. 

Two, people are dead wrong when they claim the "puppet master" is behind this. Top-level administrators revealed their concerns to some board members which started the investigation.  It makes no sense to blame and attack the football coach.

Three, why would the puppet master go after the superintendent which exposed information about the Kalahari relationship?  Why would he slay the goose that laid the golden egg?  This also makes no sense!  Kalahari made a wonderful donation to the Huron City Schools.  The football team now has a great facility.  Why would you upset the person who was responsible for the donation?????  Someone, trying to cover his tracks, is blaming the football program. Mr. Nelson, you're getting the wrong information.

In conclusion, some people made some bad decisions to start this mess and now other people are making more bad decisions and the Huron Schools are suffering from it.  I applaud the past board members for their commentary in the reader's forum.  What they say makes so much sense!

I read the report.  The emails don't lie. I respect the top-level administrators and for what they had to say.  The question everyone must answer is this....do you want this person to be your leader? I don't, but that's not my decision to make.

Sold on Fox:  I admired your passion in defending the superintendent.  I really admired your turn-about after you read the report and how you said you were "eating crow."  Now, you want to go after the people who found out what the superintendent supposedly did, while forgetting the misuse of school email, the acceptance of gifts over the limit from someone the school is doing business with, the moral issue, and the lack of leadership from the superintendent in the last two years, as stated from top-level administrators.  I have a feeling I know who you are, or should I say, who the two of you are.....

Bloggers:  let the OEC and OBOE decide the fate of the superintendent and, if the current BOE, the treasurer, the past board of education did anything wrong.Let them decide if toolgate should be re-opened. It's all going to come out, but let's start the healing process and stop the name calling, the spreading of rumurs, the personal attacks, etc.  Huron has always rebounded from tough knocks and they'll get through this mess.

 

Sold On Fox 2

Huron Grad-

I like this:

'Bloggers: let the OEC and OBOE decide the fate of the superintendent and, if the current BOE, the treasurer, the past board of education did anything wrong.Let them decide if toolgate should be re-opened. It's all going to come out, but let's start the healing process and stop the name calling, the spreading of rumurs, the personal attacks, etc. Huron has always rebounded from tough knocks and they'll get through this mess.'

I'm sorry to have sunk to the level of some other posters, but I have to disagree with you on two things. One.. I'm one not two. And the second thing is this has nothing to do with Kalahari Field. This goes way back. I'm willing to let the cards fall where they made with nothing but rumors on Fred Fox. The truth will eventually come out and I enjoyed reading your post.

Good luck to you !

notdumb

 Come on SR, when are you going to get your hands ahold of all these other emails from the BOE members?

Wonder when Tony Legando gets connected to all of this?

 

 

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold

I just wanted to remind you that people who are close to the situation have a "slanted" point of view.

There is no doubt that there is an ongoing feud between parties and much of it stems from the football program.  Did Mr. Sowecke run for the board because he wanted to deal with some issues?  Probably Remember, I posted a few weeks ago that I did not vote for Mr. Sowecke.  Does Mr. Asher have a personal relationship with Mr. Fox that goes back for years?  Absolutely.  He even admits that he has been part of the previous Kalahari golf trip prior to being on the board.  Is the "puppet master" sitting back and laughing as this all unfolds?  No doubt!  But as you reread my posts, please note that I have always contended that regardless of what sparked the investigation, what was found cannot be ignored and must be reported according to ethic laws.  The Arizona trip was handled in an illegal manner, not a careless manner.  Mr. Fox knew what were valid expenses and submitted hotel, food, and rental car receipts for dates that did not correspond with the conference dates of 3/2-3/5.  Mr. Asher admits that the board instructed the treasurer to reimburse Mr. Fox.  Board policy specifically spells out what is payable and this submission and approval was wrong in so many ways.  Their actions also violate IRS regulations and the use of public monies.  The treasurer also knows the laws as it is part of his job yet he reimbursed Mr. Fox as requested.  Why was that?  Inquiring minds like mine would like to know. Even if we find out  the money was paid back after the internal investigation exposed it, it was still illegal.  All parties involved need to answer to the public at  minimum.  The Arizona trip is just one area that can be documented.  It alone is enough for termination.  What happened in this situation is documented, not hearsay.

Bottom line is that I don't disagree that people have a personal dislike for one another.  Maybe the football groupies started the allegations but reread one of my previous posts:  they were mining for silver when they struck gold.  How it started will be trumped by what was found.

Sold On Fox 2

TDN-

I am in agreement, (and in awe of your homework), with most of what you have posted.

One point I do not agree with is that Fred Fox should be terminated for being reimbursed for the Arizona trip. The people who OK'd the reimbursement and the treasurer, who should have known better seem to be the likely candidates for the next investigation.

Your posts, as always, are very well thought out, but I really think you are still buying into the rhetoric about Fred Fox's 'misdeads'.

Fred Fox did not reimburse himself for going to Arizona and he has receipts.

Fred Fox may, or may not have had a brief 'affair', but did it affect his work ? Probably some. Did it happen on the school's time ? Highly doubtful.

Fred Fox had no vote, nor influence on Kalahari's tax abatements ?

So.. to quote Clara Peller: 'Where's the beef ?'

I look forward to all of your future posts and the silver mining comment is a riot !
But.. I think they found pyrite.

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold

The consequences for the AZ trip include a variety of options with termination being one of them.  Since the school board created the atmosphere for crime, I can respect your stance that termination is severe.  Maybe repayment of the money by Mr. Fox and an unpaid leave of absence could have been an appropriate action.  But how can the school board impose such a punishment when two current members okayed his action? This is a sticky situation for them.  Paying it back is not enough.  If it were just one night's stay or one day's food receipts, maybe.  So what does the board do?  One board member was not on the board in the spring of 2011 and Mrs. Green's emails support that she was against paying for the airfare as Mr. Fox had other options for comparable conferences in our on state.  Fair assumption that she did not  approve the receipts in question. I have not seen any documentation from Mr. Slocum regarding  his thoughts or involvement in the matter. Three board member, one no longer on the board, shared in emails that Mr. Fox deserved and earned this trip. Again, what should the current board do now that the situation is exposed?

Please consider this scenario:  Three board members, the superintendent, and the treasurer ignore board policy (payment of rental car, 3 nights lodging, food receipt for 2/27, food receipts that are not itemized, etc.).  They also violate federal and state policies. There are also close friendships amongst some in the group. This smells of  Good Ole Boys Gone Wild.  Three current board members know that this needs to stop and stop now.  Where is their power?  Can they remove the other two? No. Can they legally terminate Mr. Fox.  Yes they can.  Now this particular problem is solved.

TaxRaider

Tsu Dho Nimh .... I couldn't agree with your analysis of the Arizona trip more and have the same questions.  Careful, Darwin will make the assumption you are a trouble maker or an angry district employee.

Sold ... I am curious ... just because the board members approved the reimbursements and the treasurer cut the check that clears Mr. Fox of his accountability?  If my boss told me I could take home a piece of equipment owned by my employer and I know this is theft, then I can take it home?

 

Sold On Fox 2

Well said TDN..

Julie R.

A Murray prepared this lawsuit? The entire thing sounds like a description of a high-school girl cat-fight or something.........and then saying "Soweke's motivation to undermine and smear Fox's reputation was because Fox was buying supplies from merchants outside of Huron instead of Ace Hardware" --- how ridiculous. Murray must have had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to come up with that one.

 

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold

Do you really think any of the 5 board members would participate in this online conversation?  Even as much as I dislike the actions of Mr. Asher and am suspicious of his involvement, I give him credit that he would not be so stupid as posting on the Register.

TaxRaider

Tsu Dho Nimh ... I must say I disagree with you on this one about Asher, well, let me clarify.  I don't think any of the board members would blog, but I do believe they would get someone to blog for them.  I'm conflicted with the Letter to the Editor in the Huron Hometown News written by Asher and Caporini, is that any different than blogging? Except for the obvious signing of their names. 

Sold On Fox 2

TDN-
I think it's possible that they could anonymously come on here. Anything is possible, although I wouldn't look for some huge declaration.. hahaha

To all-
The H-Team is a fine group of men that works hard for the coaches and players of the Huron Tiger football team. They do a lot and have fun. My only gripe is that people always say: 'The H-Team is made up of 99% Huron Athletic Booster Club members.'  Well guys.. Stop being exclusionary and just call yourselves members of the Huron Athletic Boosters. Is that so tough ? The Huron Athletic Boosters work for ALL of the athletes including cheerleaders.

DonutShopGuy-
You are really not such a bad guy and actually have a sense of humor. Stop pretending to be such a curmudgeon from the donut shop. I already think I know who you are but that's up to you to come out of the donut shop when you want to. Far be it from me to out you.

And for the last time, I hope.
This is not the former board member and her husband who are the parents of a fine bunch of Huron graduate triplets. Not that it's a bad thing, it's just not true. There may be a few other people in Huron who know the players and have a game card ?

TaxRaider-

Are you a disgruntled school employee ? hahaha.. Just kidding..

Sold On Fox 2

TDN-

I do know that people are definately monitoring this site as I've heard comments from many places directly referencing what is said on here.

So.. If you have a message to send, you can at least feel like it is being read even if it's not commented on. I imagine it must cause a slow quiet simmer from some ?

donutshopguy

Sold on Fox 2.

Just to clarify my membership in the H-Team and Huron Football.

I have been part of the program for over 20 years and God willing looking towards another 20 years.

My youngest son graduated 10 years ago. I don't worry about who plays or how much or even who wins.

I am involved because of the valuable life lessons we teach boys through the vehicle of football.

 

There are approximatly 70 boys involved over three grades.  No one in the area is even close to that participation.

The Huron Football program had the highest accumulative grade point average for any public school in the state of Ohio for 2011. There were only a couple private schools above them in the state.

Maybe its the mentoring by players, coaches and h-team members?

Maybe the participation and grade point average comes from the H-team members who offer guidance to those boys, from broken families , who don't have a male influnce in their lives.

Maybe its from the H-team members who supply shoes, clothes, supplies and  varsity jackets to those boys who's families cannot afford these items at this time.

Maybe its because no boy is turned away or no boy is shunned for lack of athletic ability.

 

Yes, i get a little grouchy, when people pick on an organization that support autistic boys  and other disabilities on a  high school football team.

I am not embarrassed.

 

Sold On Fox 2

As I said, DonutShopGuy, the H-Team is a great group.

Just wish they referred to themselves as Huron Athletic Boosters,
but I'm not embarrassed to admit it gives them an identity and one that the boys can also identify.

Hope you have another 20 years with them.

You also sound like the type of person who does help where he can.. no matter what the sport.
I can feel your pride in what you do from your post.

It is people like yourself that have kept the Huron Athletic Boosters on top of all other schools as far as booster clubs go.

The H doesn't need painting anymore..
that damn Fred Fox went and got Kalahari to put $750,000 into a stadium renovation.

I remember when tearing down and replacing the visitor's stands was a big deal. The football team tore them down and then the Huron Athletic Boosters used $10,000 of Tiger Bingo money to replace them. The stands the team tore down actually started out as stands for a circus and then were placed at the old field behind McCormick. The football team actually carried those stands, intact, over to the present field and placed them on the visitor's side. Everyone worked together to get these projects done. There was a lot of pride in that stadium because we all worked together to build and continually renovate it.

Ahhh... memories I'm not embarrassed to admit I enjoy remembering.

Thanks DonutShopGuy !

 

 

Tsu Dho Nimh

TaxRaider

Point well taken and I stand corrected!

Retiree

You people in Huron are in a class of their own. You have businesses in a small town trying to make a living, yet some immature citizens are telling other people not to support them. What kind of hypocrites are you, not supporting a local business? In your blogs you sound like a bunch of eight year old children. These businesses pay taxes and support your school system. Whether your for or against the superintendent he committed ethics violations and you can not do anything about it. It is out of your hands citizens of Huron, SO GROW UP.

donutshopguy

 Sold on Fox 2,

You have caught me. I am Tim Soweke.

Oops, can even spell my name correctly.  Darn.

How will we every get along?

jds

trackme

Sold on Fox 2,sound like a couple who's wife is a x school board member sour grapes !!  who will also be in trouble with the law!!! and I know your not them ha ha

notdumb

 The "H" team is made fun of all the other area schools because they are nothing but bunch of wannabe coaches/boosters

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold

Did you read my post from last night?  TaxRaider is a disgruntled employee who had to turn his tools back in...lol

jk TaxRaider

Sold On Fox 2

lol... I knew it ! Where's the bus, TaxRaider ?

HuronCleanHouseNOW

So if the H-Team is a fine group of individuals helping the football team and other people when asked, then why don't they just help all team's within Huron?  

What makes the football program "better" than the rest of the Huron athletic teams?  Is it that football is more popular or is it the coaching or is it because they win?

TaxRaider

I'm living on the bus since my taxes are so high .... gotta pay high taxes to support the good ole boys. ... jk.......I'm disgruntled alright but not an employee

Julie R.

Wonder why the Murrays are getting involved in this? This case certainly doesn't fit their profile. Are they trying to intimidate Mr. Soweke and the other two board members ........ or maybe the attorneys from McGown & Markling? Why also would they file an injunction so those attorneys don't get paid? After all, I'll bet the Murrays wouldn't like it if everybody in class-action lawsuits that get $5.00 checks started filing injunctions to prevent attorneys from making millions off of those lawsuits. 

So what's so different about this case that even the Murrays are getting involved? I also would be curious as to who is paying for it ----- Kalahari maybe? 

HHGUY
Julie R. you just hit the nail on the head. The real purpose of the injunction is to get a ruling from the Court that based on major Sunshine Law violations; all actions that follow are void. That is the real teeth of the Sunshine Law.  This would then negate the Markling report.  And all actions that hinge on this report are nullified. Yes, additionally they are requesting that Markling not be paid but wouldn’t you. If they violated the law and conducted such a rogue investigation that cannot even be utilized in Court, then why should the taxpayers pay this bill? Right behind all of this Murray and Murray will be filing a Plaintiff lawsuit asking for major damages.  In a Plaintiff suit like this, there is no fee charged by the attorney’s, they just take 33%. Also, as I think you have hit on, firms like Murray and Murray do not take losers.  Trust me, I think that $5.0 mil insurance may not be enough. Plus the insurance company can walk if things don’t go the way they want. Then the real losers are all of Huron. Go figure. But I think you have really hit the nail on the head. I also think Asher’s account is 100% accurate. The cover-up is by the three “stooges”,  not Asher and Cap. But Murray and Murray will uncover all of it!  Stay tuned!
Still Sold on Fox 3

HHGUY-

I believe you have hit the nail on the head with:

'In a Plaintiff suit like this, there is no fee charged by the attorney’s, they just take 33%. Also, as I think you have hit on, firms like Murray and Murray do not take losers.  Trust me, I think that $5.0 mil insurance may not be enough. Plus the insurance company can walk if things don’t go the way they want. Then the real losers are all of Huron. Go figure. But I think you have really hit the nail on the head. I also think Asher’s account is 100% accurate. The cover-up is by the three “stooges”, not Asher and Cap. But Murray and Murray will uncover all of it! Stay tuned!'

This being the key phrase:
'Then the real losers are all of Huron.'

The Murray's are not known for taking on losers
and are probably going to walk away with about a million Huron Taxpayer dollars.

 

Still Sold on Fox 3

To quote Austin Powers: 'A million dollars !!!'

(and actually the figure will be more like 4 million Huron Taxpayer /insurance dollars)..

Still Sold on Fox 3

Support Fred Fox on Facebook >>>   http://www.facebook.com/SupportFredFox

Fred Fox does not endorse nor is he a part of this !

Julie R.

Wonder what would have happened if Ron Bailey had filed an injunction to prevent the law firm of Murman & Murman from getting paid for that stupid Murman Report in the Nuesse case? I'll bet Baxter and his judge buds at the courthouse never would have gone along with THAT! 

Julie R.

HHGUY:  You're preaching to the wrong choir when you preach to me.  I know how the more than dirty corrupt Erie County courts work ........... and I also know how their favorite bottom-feeders do.  

notdumb

 I guess in Huron if you are a "H-team" member, you get to relive the glory thru your kid.  If you are not from Huron, you are always looked as an outsider.  Bottom line, what TOny wants, Tony gets.  Never forget it.  Everything else is just a smokescreen.  Just remember the connection with Fox and Legando....Don't deny it.

donutshopguy

 notdumb,

As I stated my youngest son graduated 10 years ago and I'm still involved. What glory am I enjoying?

I moved to Huron, so I must be an outsider.  Haven't felt like an outsider but maybe because I got involved and didn't whine it helps. Never seen anyone turned away when they want to help.

I don't consider the highest GPA for a public school football team in Ohio a smokescreen.  If it is, I will continue to smoke. In fact, hand me another.

HuronCleanHouseNOW

Does Huron Football win state championship often?  How many years has the coaching staff been in place?  Will they be good this year?

donutshopguy

 HuronCleanHouseNOW,

Huron has never won a state championship in football.

I believe Huron football has only had two head coaches over the last 50 years. Assistant coaches come and go dependent on their work, family and other interests.  Same with H-team members. 

My guess is they will be 8-2 or 7-3 this year. May or may not make the playoffs.

That is inconsequential. You are looking at the wrong numbers..

Tell me how many went to college? Tell me how many have a family and are a productive member of our society?                                                 

If I can have a positive effect on 70 boys a year count me in.  

TaxRaider

donutshopguy .... too bad so many communities look at the W-L records and not what happens behind the scenes.  I am amazed at the critism and ridicule coaches (ignoring college and pro, that is a different world) everywhere are subject to and yet they continue to committ themselves to the teams and kids they coach.  The number of hours they put in, sacrafice their personal time and family time, and the worries they take on are monumental .... and the record books only show two numbers.

Thanks to all of those out there, like you, who take the time to impact a child in a positive way.

Still Sold on Fox 3

DonutShopGuy-

I think that Huron won the 8 man state championship years ago.

The state playoff championship game in 98(?) was a real heartache as most of Huron's players were food poisoned and some were blaming it on the H-Team's Lobster, (instead of Power Weinies), dinner at the Huron Yacht Club, although this was a ridiculous claim as food poisoning reacts much faster than two entire days.

About 85% of Huron grads go to college,
(this figure was derived from about a decade ago, but I would bet it's just about the same now ?).

Swamp Fox

Hasn't Asher Removed Himself from helping his buddy Fred, they retained the same attorney/law firm, wouldn't any further action by Asher be a conflict of interest and unethical?  Seems two board members and at least one local businessman has a reason to stop the investigation on Fox, they have much to lose, all the information has not surfaced, who is afraid of Fox making a deal and telling all?

 

Tsu Dho Nimh

Higher GPA requirements?  Young men going to college?  Becoming productive members of society?  Being able to provide for their families? We will have none of this!!!!  Let's CleanHouseNow!!!!!  (wink, wink )

notdumb

 Fox=Legando Jr.=Legando Sr.  Research it.  This should never surpise anyone.

Still Sold on Fox 3

NotDumb-

I believe, (without saying something that will get me deleted for the 4th time), that the proper equation is:

Fred Fox - Jr = Sr + (Soweke+Green+Slocum) x Fred Fox = Investigation

 

Tsu Dho Nimh

not dumb

I am assuming you are referring  to Jr. and his relationship with a student.  Fred Fox did not fire him, the Berlin-Milan school board fired him.  Principals don't have that power.  Did Fred Fox report the relationship to the board?  If he did, then he did the right thing just as whoever approached our board did the right thing.  The whistle blowers don't need to justify their actions to the public if their accusations are confirmed (i.e. receipts and emails). 

Jocko

Look up the Don Henley song "DIRTY LAUNDRY"....just saying....from a Parma kid.....

 

Julie R.

If I read Asher's lawsuit correctly, Murray claimed the motivation behind the attorney Markling's investigation into Fred Fox was because Markling wants to become the attorney for the city of Huron. (?) That didn't really make any sense. Doesn't the city of Huron already have an attorney? Didn't the assistant Erie County prosecutor, Terry Griffith, retire on the taxpayers dime and then become the personal attorney for the city of Huron and the Erie County Health Department on the taxpayers dime doing the same job she once got paid to do as the assistant prosecutor?

The lawsuit also accuses this attorney Markling of unprofessional conduct for the sole purpose of doing the bidding of Board member Tim Soweke to undermine and smear the reputation of Fred Fox. (?) That doesn't make a bit of sense, either. I can't find anything in the Rules of Professional Conduct that backs up Murray's claim on that one. An attorney gets hired to do an investigation into the ethics of a superintendent and Murray is trying to say that's unprofessional conduct?

Still Sold on Fox 3

OK... Deleted again but back again, too..

Julie R-
Without looking back at it.. Did it not say that attorney Markling was looking to get a new client, meaning either Tim SOWecke or the Huron Board of Education not the city of Huron ? 

Still Sold on Fox 3

Don't know who is responsible for my multiple deletions on here, but I keep coming back.

The truth of this entire mess will eventually be found and hopefully before the end of August when school resumes business as usual. The staff and students will be there no matter what.

I like what Kevin Asher has done because he has seen and heard enough to go out on a limb and attempt to reel this mess back in.

Fred Fox deserves his 'day in court' and he also deserves a chance to face his accusers.

Come on Ohio Ethics Commission.. Do your job !

HuronCleanHouseNOW

 If I want to become an H-Team member, who do I have to talk too?  Do I call the head coach and ask him?  

I'm not italian, does that hold any bearing to me joining.  I have seen alot of names with a vowel at the end of it which leads me to believe that alot of people involved are italian.

How are the board members affiliated with the football team?

Is 8-2 and 7-3 an acceptable season here?  

 

 

 

donutshopguy

 HuronClean House NOW,

There is no membership, no roll call and no dues.  People come and people go. If you want to join send me a PM I will forward the upcoming schedule of projects, events and get togethers. You just show up and offer to help. It's that easy.

With just my memory I believe the ration of non-Italians to Italians is about 3 to 1. Considering the town was founded by Italian immigrants a couple generations ago the mix is not too focused on one nationality.

Mr. Sowecke was a volunteer football coach. I'm sure all the others have had some relative that has participated in the program over the years.

I'm sure everyone would like an undefeated season and a state championship.  But, the reality is that most likely won't happen. 

I'll take kids coming back ,after a couple years of college, and thanking me for time in the program.  Most wish they could come back and play one more time.

I may sound bias. Because I am.  This total program is tops in the area and maybe even the state.  Now off my soapbox.

Swamp Fox

7 posts in 90 minutes without anyone else posting anything, Sold on Fox 2, one of three options; vested interest to save Fred, man crush or absolutely no life? 

Still Sold on Fox 3

Swamp Fox-

1)  I believe in Fred Fox and know of his many accomplishments

2)  I have no vested interest except in the Huron City Schools which at this time is in a crises

3)  Fred Fox is not my type

4)  I type and read really fast and usually have more to say than the one sentence posts you seem to prefer

5)  The fact that you know I posted 7 times in 90 minutes suggests it may be you who has no life ?

I'm retired Swamp F and have all the time in the world to do what I want. Sorry my schedule doesn't meet your 'lofty' standards ? If you read the 7 posts maybe you might think there is some logic at work and at the same time I enjoy communication with people who have something to say whether they agree with me or not, because somewhere in most people there is common ground.

Let me see if I can break that record and post 10 times in 60 minutes ?

 

DonutShopGuy-
Stay on that soap box. I know what fun it is to mould/help kids. It's very rewarding without the usual awards. It takes years to see what you have accomplished. Thank God for people like yourself who care enough to be involved. Glad you are a Huron Athletic Booster ! (Sorry.. Had to get that in. I should have posted this seperately so Swamp F would have something to do. Could you count this as two Swamp F ? You make the rules. I'll play by them !)

donutshopguy

 Still Sold on Fox 3,

I am in the Huron Athletic Boosters. 

In fact my favorite day as a parent, athletic booster and Huron citizen was a fall day in 2001. That day my wife and I drove to Columbus to watch the Huron boys and girls place in the state cross country meet. Then we drove to Mansfield to watch the Huron girls volleyball team compete in the state playoff. And, to finish off the day we attended the Huron football playoff game in Toledo to watch my son. 

I use to be very involved. I leave this now to the younger generation. Wouldn't give up any of the experience then or now.

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DonutShopGuy-

I remember that day well !

We did the same thing, so I know I know you. Was that football game not the shoot out where the last team to score won and it was like 64-62, or something like that ? Our QB was Robert Dence ? What a game ! Run and Shoot vs Run and Shoot..

We've had much more to celebrate in Huron than just our athletics, but athletics brings our district closer together and we've enjoyed much success there, too, despite our small number of students.

I've never seen a high school football program run so well and where all parts work so hard. The boys are taught a lot more than football. I won't go into how I feel about Mr. Hyde, but Dr. Jeckle is a great guy who really cares about his program.

Huron has provided some great days/nights on the field, court, track or diamond and also in the classroom and on to colleges all over the country. I am so proud of our school. But.. (you knew it was coming didn't you ?), I disagree that this whole situation is not causing shame and embarrassment. We are better than this. We have way more important things going on that involves kids rather than the chaos that is currently upon us.

School boards come and go, but they represent us, the taxpayers, and I do not believe this particular board is doing what I as a taxpayer, would hope that they would achieve.

Both sides have fired their shots and both sides are equally disrespectful to the other. I suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle, but I also believe that Fred Fox will come out of this scrap with only a black eye while others will be layed out on the floor.

Keep helping kids, DonutShopGuy.. Someone has to think about them while the 'adults' fight it out.

 

(The other football coach was Tony Munafo Sr. for whoever asked that. Tony had a DUI back in the 80's before it was such a big deal. He didn't lose his job. The Sandusky Register had fun with it, though !)

Retiree

Monetary agenda: Do any of you hypocrites in Huron know what that means. Your two board members are part of that category. 

Put your refuge in the Lord and not in man

HuronCleanHouseNOW

 Thanks for the information regarding the H-Team.  After I read that ever so famed "markling report" it states that the H-Team does not like outsiders in the interview from that munafo guy.  So who knows what to believe.  I guess I'll try to get involved and I'll see what happens for myself.

Someone wrote earlier that the Huron Football program has had 2 coaches for the past 50 years, who is the other one?  I know the current one.

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Retiree-

Could you please explain exactly what the 'Monetary Agenda' is for Caporini and Asher ?

I am intrigued to hear what it is that either is gaining monetarily besides the $100+ per meeting each board member gets ? Do you think Huron Cement or Asher Brothers make a lot of money dealing with the Huron City Schools ? (When they actually, by law, cannot make a profit as board members dealing with the school system ?)

I think the Lord said something about not casting stones ? (Maybe he was referring to not casting stones especially when you know not what you speak of ?)

***Swamp F-
5 in 30 minutes ! Call the Guiness Book people !

Swamp Fox

Sold on Fox2 says "1) I believe in Fred Fox and know of his many accomplishments."  I assume you are referring to his" mentoring" of the Fremont Principal?

 

I do agree Huron needs a new board, when is Asher and his buddy resigning?

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Swamp F-

1) What if all that was going on between Fred Fox and his mentee was mentoring ?

2) What if you and others are throwing around this accusation that has already caused problems in a man's personal life and it turns out that it was all nothing ?

3) What if it turns out that there was some type of short affair that did not affect anyone or anything besides the Fox's and now the other administrator's family because someone, (ummm.. Tim SOWecke), had to make sure this information went public ?

4) What if someone looked at your life through a microscope ? Is there a person alive who hasn't sinned ? And why do you believe you are qualified to judge ? What have you accomplished in this lifetime that qualifies you to judge a man who has accomplished so much ? And because he accomplished so much and did it in the public eye he is now a target for those who do nothing but talk ?

5) I'm changing my mind.. It's not DonutShopGuy that is Tim SOWecke.. I think it's you ? Listen Tim I think you should be more worried about the high prices of your hardware than the 'imaginary' misdeads of a guy who rebuilt the school system you are supposed to represent. Are you jealous of Fred Fox ? Will you do just about anything to get your name in the paper ?

Before you judge Fred Fox go and get a 'public' anal exam like he has and see if there are any fissures.

***And in case you are having problems counting and keeping track of the time, I believe this is 4 posts in 20 minutes. Does that qualify for a new record ?

Julie R.

Wonder if Roger Binette is going to follow his own precedent and treat Kevin Asher with the same arrogant disrespect as he treats the average citizens in Erie County. I certainly hope so.

I'm also surprised that Murray got away with accusing an attorney from McGown & Markling of unprofessional conduct.  I thought complaints against attorneys were prohibited in corrupt Erie County, similar to the Erie County Bar Association that prohibits complaints against JUDGES.

Tsu Dho Nimh

Still Sold

I like what Kevin Asher has done because he has seen and heard enough to go out on a limb and attempt to reel this mess back in.

I'm glad that you like what Kevin Asher has done.  Don't be surprised when the State of Ohio, not the OEC, doesn't like what he has done.  He'll be exposed and he has personally provided the evidence needed.  He is just too arogant to know it.

Patience is a virtue and Karma is a ......well, you can figure the word    ;  )

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TDN-

Where are you getting this 'other' conspiracy theory ? Kevin Asher is going to be fine and when this is all said and done the lawsuits will be monumental !

Please don't be so negative. I'm telling you Fred Fox is really a great guy and a very thorough superintendent. There REALLY is no case against him. Watch. These trumped up 'charges' will go away, but the hangover from them won't.

My personal best guess is that the Huron City Schools will have at least three new principals, a new superintendent, possibly a new treasurer and definately, three new board members as soon as it's possible to vote.

I just wish TaxRaider would bring the tools and the bus back so that all wouldn't be such an issue ! lol

Tsu Dho Nimh

Julie R

I don't think that Murray has actually accused McGown and Markling of anything at this point.  He has filed the request for an injunction for his client, Mr. Asher.  Mr. Asher is the one making the accussations. 

Mr. Murray only knows Mr. Asher's take on the situation.  I am betting that Mr. Asher is going to need his services later as a defense attorney.

1luckydog

I will unfortunatley take all my business to our neighbors to the west for my "hardware" buys.  I think this whole thing is ridiculous, and ashamed at being a resident of Huron because of the BS brought on by Mr Soweke    Mr Fox has done  an awesome job, and his personal life has nothing to do with any of what is going on.   I would like to see all Hurons employees emails posted , as his was.  I am sure most, in the employment of the City of Huron,  have used their email accts for personal use.   Three of our School Board Members need to go!

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1LuckyDog-

I agree that Fred Fox has done an awesome job and that his personal life should have at least been kept private in this 'investigation'.

I also shop on the 'Irish' end of Huron and mostly because of price, although now I do not wonder why the prices on hardware are so high on the 'Italian' end of town.

If you wish to see all of the emails, I believe all you have to do is put in a request. They are public property. I might just have to request all email from all who 'testified' in the Markling report. It will be interesting to see which of them 'live in glass houses'.

donutshopguy

 Superintendents come and go. Board members come and go.  Who cares?

The community as a whole defines the direction and the educational experience of the students of Huron Public Schools.

A cat fight between bureaucrats is amusing not embarrassing for the community.

In fact this situation is a wonderful educational experience for older children.

 

Breaking the law is bad and there are consequences.

Adults are idiots when their egos rule their thought process.

candlemaker

Focus Folks!  Get back to basics instead of all this wandering through all that is Huron.  We have, unfortunately, a superintendent whose actions may be in direct violation of professional conduct required by educators and the Ohio Revised Code.  The process to get the school board to tackle these concerns has been difficult at the very least.  Mr. Fox's actions must be investigated, like it or not.  Unfortunately any good he has done in the past does not excuse any missteps he may have taken.  The ball is in the State's court.  The school board acted properly by putting questions about his actions at that level. 

As for so many of the other comments, they distract from the issues at hand.  Our School Board has rules too and, hopefully, they are following them; if not then they too will be held accountable.  They vote, there is a majority rule.  Sorry that the folks who held the "majority" in years past no longer have the same illusion of control.  And yes it is an illusion.  Each one of those board members is a concerned citizen and willingly took on the service to our schools.  Whether or not they have personal priorities, opinions, or even an agenda is what defines them, not necessarily what controls the school board.  They vote their knowledge and their conscience.  If we don't like their conduct, they don't file for re-election, they quit, or we vote them out.  Should be end of story; but sadly doesn't seem to be by some so-called Huron loyalists.  We are a small town with an important group of small businesses trying their best to make it in today's economy.  All of these businesses have employees with families to support.  When disgruntled community members try to "punish" board members by not buying a hammer or concrete they HURT Huron.  Why would any responsible member of our business community every want to run for school board if they thought they would jeoporadize their business and the fragile Huron economy through their membership on the board.

Same goes for all the comments about the football program and H-team.  For goodness sake, these are people who give time and sometimes money to help make things better for our kids.  We need more of this, not criticism of their volunteerism and support for Huron programs.

Fred Fox has caused a crisis in Huron, and deverting criticism away from him to all other things Huron does not make concerns about the superintendent go away. If anything, his actions should cause more questions to be raised.  The "Toolgate" issue still has many unanswered questions.  Why was Mr. Fox more interested in clearing his friend, Mr. Blogett from wrong doing than getting to the bottom of the very act of theft.  First, who requistioned the equipment?  Was this new equipment needed for the school operation, that when reported missing created difficulties for employees to do their jobs?  Or was this equipment "extras" and when finally returned created a duplication of equipment.  Even with missing tools mysteriously being returned, I still wonder if they were ever really needed, Since our tax dollars pay for such purchases, I would like reassurance that these were legitimate purchases to start with, even before they went missing.  Also, it has been said that the superintendent hired a private investigator to look into the problem.  If true, did the Board authorize payment for the private investigator?  If so, how much did they pay for these services?  And if so, is this the standard way our Superintendent dealt with personnel issues.  If not, then what prompted his actions in this case?

Many questions remain, but as we ask them I would hope we could stay focused on Mr. Fox, The Ohio Revised Code, the responsibilities of our school board.  There's more than enough to talk about there.  Let's leave our kids programs, school volunteers, and local businesses out of it.  Support our kids and our businesses!

 

 

 

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Candlemaker-

Very well said, but if the only thing going on here was Fred Fox's supposid wrong doings then that's all we would have to talk about.

I'm in total agreement with you that because the 'issues' were raised that they need to be investigated. I do not agree with the way that the 'investigation' was handled but also am in agreement with you that board members are local people who stuck their necks out to be on the board.

Where I disagree, is that if you do not look farther into the mouth of the snake you'll never see what he ate.

Huron's a great place to live and has outstanding schools for the small tax base. We need to remember that. Who did that ? I would 'blame' Fred Fox and past boards for the prosperity.

Attack their businesses ? What exactly are these people doing to Fred Fox ? You think his 'business' will survive in this climate of hate ? I believe that if they want to be on the board that they should know that #1 they can no longer do business with the schools. That may not be fair but it's the law.

If the state finds Fred Fox 'guilty' of transgressions who hands out his penalty ? The state ! And if they find nothing in all that has been said, I will be amazed because none of us is 'without sin'. So where do we go from here ?

You seem to not understand that while we are waiting for the state's decision that we are going to sit here and speculate because that is all we have. No one is attacking the coveted H-Team, (ummmm Huron Athletic Boosters). No one is attacking the coach because essentially what he does for kids is a great thing. No one is attacking you, (yet), because you have written a very well thought out post that makes a lot of sense. Some are attacking me because I support Fred Fox, but I truly believe this all could have been avoided had not personal agendas gotten in the way.

I don't pretend to be able to sway your thoughts, but it sure seems like you may keep an open mind even when faced with such accusations. My message is why ? Why was it done in this manner ? Why would the Huron School Board jeopardize their relationship with Huron's top taxpayer ? Why would another board member file an injunction to stop the other three ? Why is this all happening ?

Let's wait and see what the state does, but in the meantime, DonutShopGuy and I are going to talk Huron sports.. lol

***Swamp F-
That's 6 in 40 minutes.. Going for the new record !

Still Sold on Fox 3

Support Fred Fox on Facebook !

http://www.facebook.com/SupportFredFox

Fred Fox is not responsible for, nor is Fred Fox involved in this Facebook page.

***And please, as Candlemaker said.. Stick to Fred Fox, the State of Ohio and the publicly published lawyer's 'investigation' and the injunction filed by Kevin Asher. Huron businesses will survive or fail on their own and we don't have many. I'm sorry I said I won't shop for hardware on the 'Italian' end of town. I was out of line. Although I only said I won't shop there. You make your own decision. Don't you ?

***Swamp F-
Lucky #7

Still Sold on Fox 3

Support Fred Fox on Facebook !

http://www.facebook.com/SupportFredFox

Fred Fox is not responsible for, nor is Fred Fox involved in this Facebook page.

 

 

***And the new record #8 in under 90 minutes, Swamp F ! (And not one of them is one sentence like you prefer ? I'll be expecting your one line reply. And I will expect it not to be positive about anything anyone has ever done. I'm going to get back to 'my life' now and will be back later hoping you do not reply to me from your work computer. After all.. the boss isn't paying you to chat with me)..

Still Sold on Fox 3

Support Fred Fox on Facebook !

http://www.facebook.com/SupportFredFox

Fred Fox is not responsible for, nor is Fred Fox involved in this Facebook page.

 

Still Sold on Fox 3

Support Fred Fox on Facebook !

http://www.facebook.com/SupportFredFox

Fred Fox is not responsible for, nor is Fred Fox involved in this Facebook page.

 

 

Tsu Dho Nimh

We interrupt this regularly scheduled posting for the following news break...SupportFredFox on Facebook now has 8 likes.  We now return to the scheduled posting.

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TDN-

Unlike here, it's not anonymous so not everyone is ready to step up. Why don't you go and like it TDN. I will let you post anything you want to. Promise

Or.. start your own Facebook page. Call it 'The Truth'. Maybe you'll find it ?

donutshopguy

Sold on Fox 3,

Naw, that day Huron played Lake High School. The shootout  was the next week against Kenton. That was the best game i have ever whitnessed.

Still Sold on Fox 3

Kenton ! That's right. It was a great game. Another great game was in Lakewood. Another loss but we came back from behind. Having guys like Jim Fisher and Robby Majoy helps ! I remember one of the first playoff losses when we were also in Lakewood. Lou Groza visited the team at practice. The Tigers fought hard. Great memories !

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold,

I have no interest in bashing Mr. Fox on your FB page.  You created it for those who support him and I respect those who believe in him in that I would not  misuse the page or bring in my own "agenda" as suggested in previous posts.

You are correct that FB does not allow people to conceal their identity.  But if someone truly believes he is not being treated fairly, why hide who you are?  Be proud and publicly supportive!  Eight members is sad if he really has supporters out there.  Having said that, good for you that you are willing to get a group started because you sound passionate about your stance.

Public forums such as this are not intended to put personal names out in the open but I assure you, I have made myself identifiable in other public venues and will continue to do so.   Attend things and listen.  Other than a few of my jokes, some you have found funny and others offensive, I say in public what I say here.

 

HuronCleanHouseNOW

 I am trying to fit all the pieces to the puzzle.  

Munafo SR coached football for a number of years.  Legando SR then came in and has coached for a number of years.  Munafo JR is assistant principal and in the M&M 50K report he seems not to speak so highly of the H-Team (football driven) and he brings to light a Legando JR event.  

Shouldn't these boys be buddies?  I'm sure there is some Huron Football Lore.  

Can anyone be coach or do you have to be a teacher?

donutshopguy

 HuronCleanHouseNOW,

I would say, at this time, 80% to 90% of assistant coaches in the football program are not teachers or affiliated with the public schools.

A lot of former players fill coaching roles at the junior high and high school.

They keep coming back to help and continue to be a part of this excellent program.  Well taught , discipline players make well taught, discipline coaches. At least for the last 50 years.

Tmm

This is for all you same idiots who have been doing nothing but bloging on this same story for the past month - get a fing life!  seriously, I relaize that this quite possibly my be the biggest thing that has ever affected you but take a freaking break.  let your computer rest and realize that no one realy cares what you have to say - that includes all the parties involved!

 

Fred Fox & the Huron City School Board

Tmm

This is for all you same idiots who have been doing nothing but bloging on this same story for the past month - get a fing life!  seriously, I relaize that this quite possibly my be the biggest thing that has ever affected you but take a freaking break.  let your computer rest and realize that no one realy cares what you have to say - that includes all the parties involved!

 

Fred Fox & the Huron City School Board

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Tmm-

Time for you to take a freaking break, get a life, and quit spending all of your time reading these posts. Your boss would probably like you to work instead ?

Tmm

Still Sold - Im my own Boss - just like all the Huron Board members own their businesses and are their own Boss - its called doing something with your life instead of bloging all day and night...

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Tmm-

If it took me most of the day to peck out one sentence with bad spelling, I wouldn't blog, either. Glad you have your own business and hope it's doing well.

I am retired from my own business and have done well. If I want to blog from the moment I get up until the moment I hit the bed it is my perogative, (there's time to look that one up, I'll wait).

Your opinion, mine.. we are entitled ! That's the good news about living in America. The bad news is that people can make accusations, print facicious reports and out and out spread rumors that desparaige a man's reputation and that's all right here, too ?

TMM.. you do what you want and I will, too. With the likes of you on the 'opposing' viewpoint here, I continue to feel comfortable about Fred Fox's situation.

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HuronCleanHouseNow-

Munafo Jr knows what happened and why. There's Lagando's and Legando's and they all come from the same family. If the same family can't even get along, how would anyone expect other families ending in vowels to all get along.

They may not always like each other, but it isn't up to anyone else to criticize them and they will bond together and fight the critic. Pack rules.

The H-Team is a group of Huron Athletic Boosters who'se interest is 'usually' the football program. They are a fun bunch of active individuals who do not allow the politics of the school district get in the way of what they want to accomplish.

See DonutShopGuy and join in the fun. But.. Join the Huron Athletic Boosters first !

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TDN-

The only people that know about the Support Fred Fox Facebook page are reading it here on this forum, so 8 out of the 15 of us who post here isn't too bad.. lol

I didn't ask you to come there and bash Fred Fox, I was asking you to come there and post. Your posts are usually well thought out although I have my own opinions as to who needs to be recalled from the Huron Board of Ed.

Let's run this whole thing through:

(And by the way. For those of you bored with this topic.. go write a review on the Obama visit and let us talk. No one ever said you HAVE to read anything I post. There's no rule or law that compells you to do so.)

Fred Fox 'alledgidly'

1)  Was reimbursed(sp?) for 'personal' travel to a conference in Arizona
2)  Had an affair
3)  Took golf and lodging as reimbursment for his 'influence' on tax abatement
4)  and in addition, Fred Fox covered up 'toolgate'

A report was generated by an attorney hired to do 10 free hours of work, for which the attorney billed the Huron City Schools $50,000.

Two members of the Huron City School's Board of Education did not want to pay for a $50,000 report that was not authorized, (Cannot be authorized except in an actual meeting).

One member of the Huron City School's Board of Education took it upon himself to get the $50,000 unofficially unauthorized report entered into the public record to make sure the public knew what was being investigated and to turn public sentiment.

Another member of the Huron City School's Board of Education filed an injunction to stop the school district from paying for the $50,000 report because it was unauthorized and was completely slanted to make Fred Fox look terrible.

The Sandusky Register, although having not one 'Huron expert' on their editorial board deems the injunction a 'red herring' when in actuality the Markling report was the 'red herring'.

TDN-
While this all makes for good reading and debate the truth is that the Markling report is not worth $50,000 or even the paper it's written on.

There is a lot wrong with our beloved Huron schools, but Fred Fox is not one of those things. He has been effective thus making him a target of those less effective. Fred Fox is actually a pawn in this game and the stakes are high.

You seem to know the people involved which is why I am going to ask you this: Everyone who is involved in this mess.. Who do you believe is telling the absolute truth and why ?

There's a simple answer for me. Fred Fox is telling the truth. What he has ever done wrong in his life pales in comparison to how others are using the 'perceived' power of the Board of Education to ruin a man's career and reputation because in doing his job over the years he has definately ruffled feathers. What effective person doesn't ?

The Board is made up of people who are not professional board members and at this time it shows. They are just people who got involved and got caught up. They don't know ALL of the correct things to do and as we look in hindsite we think we have the answers, but who really knows the truth besides Fred Fox ?

So.. If my supporting Fred Fox because of what I know of him is a heinas(sp?) thing then I am heinas, too. But.. I can sleep at night and I have a hard time believing the current Huron Board of Education can ?

 

Jocko

I have to admit this is all intriguing but the whole thing makes me sad. I know people on both sides of the fence and I pretty much like them all. This attorney involvement is going to get ugly though.....just makes me sad....from a 19 year Huron resident who is still a Parma boy....it's much better being a small fish in a big pond rather than a large fish in a small pond.....just saying....just sad......

Swamp Fox

Fred is not responsible for the facebook page he's to busy on the dating websites, at least now he is doing it on his own time.    Time for Asher & Caporini to resign...

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Swamp F-

'Fred is not responsible for the facebook page he's to busy on the dating websites, at least now he is doing it on his own time.'

Seriously... This is some funny stuff. If there was a 'LIKE' button I would have hit it. lol

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sold 3

Contrary to what you believe, I do not know anyone involved in this mess.  Never met Fred Fox, the "puppet master", Mr. Slocum, Mrs. Green, Mr. Asher, or former member Mrs. Bulea.  I have met Mr. Sowecke and seen Mr. Caporini because I have visited their businesses.  I have been out with my spouse when friendly "hellos" have been exhanged but never formally introduced to Mr. Caporini.  I am not even from this area originally but made it my home 20 years ago.  I have no emotional connection or allegiences to this at all.  Odds are, we have been in Drug Mart, IGA, Huron Market or at a local gas station and stood in line next to one another sometime during the last 20 years but if I knocked at your door this evening, you would have no clue who I am.

The reason I have been interested in this is because the actions of certain board members and the superintendent infuriates me.  There has been an abuse of authority amongst the previous board and the superintendent.  There is enough evidence to tell me that some of them feel an entitlement  to my taxpayers dollars and yours.  My conclusions are based on public records, not the Markling report.  Was a $50,000 report necessary?  No, but you can thank two of the board members.  If they would have done the right thing back in 2010 and 2011, then we would not be where we are at today.  My conclusions are based on logic, not my emotions.

Still Sold on Fox 3

Why do people keep bringing up Nancy Bulea ?

I don't see her connection to any of this ? Was she on the board when Fred Fox took the Arizona trip or when 'toolgate' happened ?

Tmm

still sold  - you are truely psychotic.  this fiasco has appearently given your life meaning hasn't it!  i'm guessing you just recently discovered bloging as your new calling.  nothing else to do in retirement then to defend someone who has no defense?  throw out eveything (kalahari/arizona trip) except the FACT that Fox was conducting an affair while he should have been working as a Superintendant of a public school system and he should be fired. Period! (and he will be based on that alone)  If you were in fact a business owner and found out your employee was screwing around while he should have been working would he remain employed by you?

I tell you what Sold - your retired so I assume you are of the age where you were brought up communicating face to face.  I'm at the Huron boat basin docked directly behind the stage - come on down and we can talk about the issue instead of you spewing crap on this blog for the past month. 

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Tmm-

Hahahaha..   You're killing me dude. This fiasco, (and that word completely describes it), is giving me, and others, a chance to discuss the who's, what's and where's of Huron's schools, but your guess would be off as I have been a blogger for years.. before it was even called blogging. My topics are usually not this narrow, but I'm not sure anyone here would care about the fun things I usually discuss ?

Fred Fox was 'alledgidly' having an affair while working. 'Alledgidly' being the key word. If I had an employee 'alledgidly' having an affair while he/she was supposed to have been working I sure as Hell would find out the facts before firing and I sure as Hell would not release the 'rumors' to the press and broadcast my employee's supposed indescrestions before I found out if the 'rumors' were true, (not just to make sure the public believed them even before they were found to be reliable ?).

I retired very early Tmm, because I knew what I was doing and did it well. I can only hope you end up doing the same. Thanks for the invite. Turns out I was in that neighborhood, but only read your post this morning. I have absolutely no problem discussing this 'fiasco' in public and do not consider my spewing to be crap, but as I posted directly to you before several times: You are not forced to read the crap I spew. It is your choice and since we agree to disagree I will assume you are not going to change your mind and rest assured no matter what 'truth' is found I will always stand by Fred Fox. He has earned that loyalty and unlike most, I will not let a 1,000 at-a-boys be erased with 3 accusations.

Happy boating !

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