Huron schools superintendent at center of investigation

(Updated with audio from school board meeting) It's a fiasco.
Jessica Cuffman
May 25, 2012

 

(Updated with audio from school board meeting) It’s a fiasco.

So says Huron Schools superintendent Fred Fox’s attorney, and one of the school board members who adamantly opposed a vote to send an investigation into allegations made against Fox to a higher authority for review.

After a four-hour closed doors session Tuesday night, board members voted 3-2 to forward the investigation to the Ohio Ethics Commission.

No one has disclosed what the allegations entail, but they were serious enough to spur the board into hiring a law firm to sort out the facts of the matter.

Fox’s attorney, Larry Vuillemin, characterized the investigation as a fishing expedition. 

For more on this story, pick up a copy of Thursday's Register.

Comments

Unassumer

It's a shame people in positions such as this try to bring each other down.  Actually it goes on in all areas of employment/business.  The girls get together to get another one fired; the men often do the same or worse.  In order to keep a job of any kind, it seems you have to be a back-stabbing, brown-nosing gossip with an axe to grind.  You all know who you are.  Wake up and smell the paychecks.  Yours could be gone tomorrow.

donutshopguy

Three of the five school board members had enough questions about a situation to send it to an ethics commission. It's their job to oversee the superintendent. They are doing their job.

Let the ethics board review the information and wait for their response.

If I was Mr. Fox I'd be looking for a new job. A majority of your board has questions about your ethics. That's not a good thing.

Darkhorse

Any one have a further report on SHS's financial guru on suspension?

Wald

"A majority of your board has questions about your ethics."

Or, a majority of the Huron School Board members have personal agendas. 

ReallyGood

Just because a majority of ppl are questioning ethics doesn't mean a thing. Look at Aaron Volz. How many times in all those years did his staff have him reviewed? And look...it didn't even matter. It took a dropped rape case to get him out of there. He could probably get his job back today if he wanted to.

donutshopguy

 Wald,

How many of the three who voted "yes" are new board members?

Natti Light

 It sounds to me like there is an idiot on the school board, leading the other two by the nose.  Not a shocker there.  I'd call in the county to look at the board members, and why they are doing this.  Given a certain school board members ridiculous comments in the past, I would give pause to anything he says in public.  The fact that this person was even elected makes one consider if there should be an IQ test to vote.  Frightening.

fudge pies

If Fox has done no wrong, then he has nothing to worry about.  However, since they're spending the tax payers money like its water, I sure hope they don't need any levy support in the next couple years, because they can go suck it.  Its not going to happen.

Just Saying

Serious Allegations to me would consist of sexual contact with a student, theft in office, ie --Sure hope  this is worth Huron taxpayer money. My unrequested opinion is that either  the Huron Bd of Ed has two good old boys who are supporting this guy - just because he's a good old boy or you have three members stirring up trouble on a witch hunt. Curious to see which one it will be.

fox101

when this is all over ,I hope  someone cleans up this school board. Looks like some  bad feelings from the past have resurfaced From what Ive read this super,has done nothing but make things better in the Huron school system. Good luck Mr Fox !

deertracker

I know Fred.  When he was at Baywinds he was a super nice guy.  I hope that is still the case!  This is not his first battle with Huron schools.  Good luck to ya!

fudge pies

if Fox's investigation comes back clean, where there has been nothing done wrong, then i want three of the BOE's fired!!!  Immediately for wrongful accusations.

reporter54

I have questions about the ethics of the majority of the people around here.  Who investigates that?

Natti Light

 Why is the BOE spending taxpayer money on this?  They could have called in the Ohio Ethics Commission, who would have investigated for free!  Free!  It's headed to OEC now anyway, so why all the money on a law firm?  This sounds like a plan thought up by 1.  someone too stupid to be on the school board and 2.  A bunch of townies who want to relive the "glory days".

KM

Natti Light says

Why is the BOE spending taxpayer money on this? 

good question - don't stop there!!!

 

 

underthebridge

If it were sexual contact with a student, the BOE would be referring the case to law enforcement not the ethics commission. 

eastside

Well if the BOE hired a law firm at taxpayer expense, to investigate 'allegations' and Fox has his own lawyer too, then something is certainly not right, and Kudos to the three for passing it up the hill.  Too much stuff has rolled down the hill over there in Huron, for far too long, while those at the top and with tenure have operated as if laws do not apply to them.  Their lawyers have done a good job and keeping things covered up thus far.

Interesting that Ruff is jumping ship at the same time....

The good ole boys all have things in common, not all of them are legal, hopefully someone has enough $$ to go up against em!  Raise em high boys!

 

 

 

Retiree

Shame on you Larry Vuillemin. Who in the heck do you think you are to act like a total a$$ in a meeting demanding things. Would you act like that in front of a judge raising your voice and demanding things. Your purpose for being there was to intimidate the elected board members. You showed your true colors as an attorney (bottom feederer).  I hope that a copy of the audio is sent to the Ohio Ethics Commission to show how unprofessional an attorney you are. The school board members are elected by the people of Huron.  They were elected to do a job and if something is wrong,THEY will fx it. They sure don't need the likes of you disrupting meeting.

fudge pies

sure they'll fix it after they bankrupt the school.  #dumbasses

fromthepast

I to know Mr. Fox. My assesment of the type of person he is does not agree with deertrackers opinion. If he or one of the good old boys doesn't like you he will find a way to get rid of you. I have seen this happen over and over again over the last 10 years. It is refreshing to see board members that do not rubber stamp everything he does. (this was not the case in the past). It will be interesting to see what the ethics board does. My guess is that they will side with the majority, not the good old boys. (Asher, Caporini)

KM

fromthepast says 

It is refreshing to see board members that do not rubber stamp

sorry to burst your bubble but these board members still rubber stamp.  

God made the Idiot for practice, and then He made the School Board.  Mark Twain

 

 

BEHAPPY

I'm with UNASSUMER.   ALOT of that going on is right!   We have to deal with it on a daily basis.   Very frustrating and causes ALOT of employees below these people alot of headaches!   Too many people on POWER TRIPS!     Major power trips

Gardenman

I was not a fan of Mr Fox when he first started as superintendent. As time has gone on I think he has worked hard to bring a better feeling in the staff and through the school system. Things are not perfect in any school system but Huron City Schools has always done it among the best in Erie County. Agree or not that has a lot to do with the superintendent's leadership.

Tim Sowecke ran for the school board with an agenda and that was against Fred Fox. He has not disappointed his supporters for he has prusured this agenda since he took his seat on the Board. While he should be putting children in Huron Schools first he has instead put his agenda first. That is disappointing.

Donne Green I know had a family member she felt was not treated well by Huron Schools long before she was on the Board. This maybe just the way she is getting even with that situation.

For Slocum he has drifted to Green and Sowecke thinking over the past few months.

I guess we wait and see what the ethics commission says and if the trio has this all wrong then the voters can handle that in due time. One thing for certain the trio is really not sure they are right for that is the reason they spent $10,000 + of tax payers money for. Alas, if they are wrong and the ethnics commission says no wrong doings you know what that law firm is for.....TO BLAME well they said and advised and we followed. BUT lets not let them pass the blame for they must stand on their own two feet and say we are sorry we were wrong and we are resigning.

 

donutshopguy

 Gardenman,

No matter what your dillusions are with the three board members you brought up they are still Huron School board members and they have the voting power to remove Mr. Fox if they wish.

You get three board members unhappy with Mr. Fox , for any reason, and they have the power to vote him out.

Lets all watch how this plays out. 

KM
Gardenman says

One thing for certain the trio is really not sure they are right for that is the reason they spent $10,000 + of tax payers money for.

10K?  This is peanuts, chickenfeed, chump change, small potatoes!  If they only knew, Huron's taxpayers would be outraged! 

Citizen357

 I went to a school where Fred fox was the principal.  As a student, a kid, he pinned me against lockers, wrapped his hands around my throat, and damn near lifted me off the ground by my neck.  He yelled " I'm going to nail your a$$ to the wall"!  He then ordered me and two others to stand in opposite corners of a room he came back in and told me not to bother telling anybody what he had done because I had brought it on lmyself.  I wish I had sued that man. I wish I had brought this all to light before.  These are not personal attacks or defamatory statements this is an exact discription.  

FoxFire

 I, too, am a casualty of Fred's past.  This episode reminds me of the TV series "Revenge".  No matter how evil, no matter the agenda from day one of Fox's administration, no matter how sly this Fox is, eventually it all will be known.  One can only wish that the truth  comes out and that justice prevails.  ALL of the truth!  Where there's smoke, there's a Fox on Fire.  As for at least one of the no votes, the fear just might be that more than Fox's ethics will be revealed.  It is just a shame that so many good people's lives have been so negatively affected by the hidden agenda's and coverups of a previous board and, yet, current administration.  Rough agreed to be Fred's yes-man to further his carreer when Folger stood up against an unethical agenda.  You've ridden Fred as far as you're going to, John.  Run like a rat off that sinking ship.  Hats off to Folger.  Standing up for what's right isn't easy, but God has rewarded you with the position you desired among people who seemingly appreciate you more.

frizzlefrap

is that you sue?

fudge pies

its the person who didnt get elected to school board. sorry retiree

Katelih-Trailer...

Shew...All I know is....It is refreshing to know that whatever he MAY have done, doesn't seem to be sex/student related...Finally, Good news !

windyglen

Hmm, as is typical most of you have no idea what you are talking about!  Ruf was employed by Huron BEFORE Fox!

exploersport

 I am a Huron resident and proud of it! But we the people vote people onto the school board to watch over things that go on. I think the school board would not just spend tax money just to spend it! There must be some wrong doing going on in that office that needs to be looked at. The school board is doing the right thing just give then your support. 

KM
exploersport says

I think the school board would not just spend tax money just to spend it!

it's a nice thought but recent budget and purchase decisions prove otherwise. 

ask:  where does the buck stop?

Retiree

You people in Huron feel that all the board members have an agenda or ax to grind. Wake up and smell the roses and quit categorizing these people. They have a job to do and let them do it. If something is wrong they will fix it and they do not need to hear from the peanut gallery.  How shallow minded Huron people are. It's funny how people forget whose daughter was hired as AD when he was voted on the school board. I would support that person who hired her also, wouldn't you. Dig a little deeper and you will find more favors Huron.   

HeresMy2Cents4Ya

Fred Fox is a jerk. I'm sorry, but he is. I dealt with him a few times over the past couple of years. My daughter was being bullied in school and after nothing being done about it, she finally stood up to her bullier. My daughter got detention, the other girl got nothing. When I confronted Fox about it, he said "Did you ever think that maybe your daughter thinks she can do whatever she wants because she knows her mom is going to stick up for her?". Really?? I also know of other kids being bullied and nothing has been done about it despite parents begging for their child to be protected. It's about time someone is questioning Fox's ethics. In my opinion, he has none.

frizzlefrap

i wonder if kalahari will foot the bill for a lawyer? .... they've got money to throw around!

donutshopguy

frizzle,

My contacts also have said this problem is in regards to something associated with Kalahari and Mr. Fox.

 

fica

 Didn't this start because of the theft(s) committed by the transportation supervisor, and covered up by the higher ups, all of who graduated together? I guess we will know soon enough.  Also, why all the drama in the bus garage lately, with the supervisor always in the middle?

wiredmama222

I don't live in Huron and I haven't got a clue what this is all about, but if that was a public meeting, why did all those people get so mad when the one man asked to speak?   In any public meeting, persons present usually are allowed time to speak. 

Remember how mad everyone got when Deirdra tried to silence people from speaking at the commission meeting?  It seems to me, that is what these board members did to this attorney. 

If this guy is being accused of something, does he not have the right to see what he is being accused of?  What are they hiding? 

BAM272

I think that if the school board is spending thousands of taxpayer dollars then they need to disclose the reason for this to the public who elected them to office.  If they are sharing a document that contains results of an investigation at a public meeting the public has a right to know what the document contains, otherwise it should have been handled in an executive session.  The school board and its administration are stewards of not only tax dollars, but the education and future of our children.  I think the community of Huron has a right to know what the allegations are if they are directed at one their leaders.  When using tax dollars transparency is expected and the veil of secrecy is unacceptable.

Retiree

No No No Find out the maden name of the AD

jetskier

fica, I think you may be on to something. Who in the bus garage was supposedly suspended for ten days? Those are the rumors that I have heard floating around. Wonder if that has anything to do with it?

fudge pies

 

 

 

 good luck 2 all

turner915

OMG! THE WM CONSPIRACY THEORY AGAIN!!! IT IS NEVER ENDING!!!

partyboy

Mr. Fox has done an exceptional job at Huron.  I am surprised by this alligations,  It sounds like a perosnal attack.  He is a hometown guy.  It is playing out like a bad high school scene.  Isn't it time that we focus on what is important..the students and the academic performace. Shouldn't that speak loudly enough??

Sold On Fox

Fred Fox,
With all you have done for the Huron School System and the city of Huron they should be having a parade or naming a building after you..

Instead, three of your five member Board of Education brought their 'secret' agendas to the light of day. These people do not belong on the board. They are not there for the right reason which is the best possible school for students and the best possible work place for employees.

Fred.. You are an employee of the board. If this $10,000 investigation turns up nothing I would fully expect you to sue this ineffective group of people who wouldn't know a great school or administrator if they hit them in the face.

This board is completely out of control and taxpayers/voters better be paying attention. Puppets.. That's who you elected. And who is pulling the strings ? It is obviously not you. And Why ?

The Board of Education represents you Huron taxpayers/voters.. and right now 'you' look like 'you' have some kind of vendetta against Fred Fox ?

Speak up taxpayers. If you think this is the only time these people, (the Board), have frivolously spent time or money you are as delusional as the three board members who decided to investigate the best administrator Huron ever had.

Did they fire R.L. McCormick, too ?

Thank you, Fred..
(Now take your credentials and get a 'real' job at another district that will appreciate you. Who in this state, besides maybe Will Folger, would want this job in Huron ? Let's see them find a new super.)

donutshopwannabe
To Mr Sold On Fox,   You are 100% right. If you look closely at the status of the Huron school system you will see fiscal strength, continued and improved academic excellence, buildings in great shape and most importantly, students that graduate and exceed in life. This is only possible with strong teachers, administrators and good leadership. Mr. Fox must be commended for all his efforts. The numbers speak for themselves.   As Mr Sold On Fox stated, these three Board members are just puppets with someone else pulling the strings. If you listen to the video, Mr. Asher says it well when he says “vendetta” – that is what this is. A witch hunt to pay back a vendetta.   Why would you bring in an outside rogue attorney to conduct an investigation? Why would you not conduct the investigation internally? Isn’t that what your job is? $10,000 is a tip of the ice berg. They have only authorized $10,000 because that is the maximum level of authority allowed without going to a public vote. This bill from Markling will be much higher in total when all is said and done. Plus on top of this attorney bill will be the costs for the other Firm, as stated in yesterday’s Viewpoint, Dane Gaschen and crew. How can a Public entity spend this taxpayer money without being held accountable? Plus attempt to cover it up by not discussing or voting in open session.   Back to the vendetta – if your close to Huron blood – you should be able to figure this one out. I’m sure the Register will dig into this one. And Slocum should be the one reported to the ethics committee for signing that formal agreement that authorizes this investigation, the one that is in the Register on May 17. I can’t see any record in the Board meeting minutes of where this was approved in an open meeting. This definitely is a Sunshine Law violation and he knowingly signed it. Read the Law – ORC121.22. This violation also makes everything identified in the study invalid. Read it yourself. Paragraph (H). Just shows how left field the Board is or that they think the Public doesn’t know and they can just sweep it under the rug, aka, Viewpoint article May 29. Or maybe the rogue attorney advised them improperly.   Fred – we want you here. We want this fixed. We want the Board to work on school improvement and the students. The Board needs to stop this now.   Stay tuned – I’m sure the Register will unfold the vendetta for all to know and let the taxpayers be the judge – if they don’t, I might. Let’s give them some time.   As Mr Sold On Fox says, speak up taxpayers!   Thank you Mr. Fox!
Sold On Fox

No..
It's you that is 100% correct.

I can only hope the Sandusky Register has what it takes to figure this 'secret agenda' out.  

'And Slocum should be the one reported to the ethics committee for signing that formal agreement that authorizes this investigation, the one that is in the Register on May 17. I can’t see any record in the Board meeting minutes of where this was approved in an open meeting. This definitely is a Sunshine Law violation and he knowingly signed it. Read the Law – ORC121.22. This violation also makes everything identified in the study invalid. Read it yourself. Paragraph (H).'

You have so done your homework WannaBe. The Sunshine Law is a reality for Board members and the only thing I think they will say is it was a personel issue thus eliminating the Sunshine. But.. I believe you are right on the money that the approval has to be done in an open Board meeting with a majority. It would be sweet to find out who was there when the investigation was authorized.

I want to go on record that a Board members position is not an easy job and they are definately underpaid, (YES.. PAID), and overworked, but.. they cannot circumvent the system for the sake of a personal vendetta.

Fred's a bigger man than I, for I could not work with a 3-2 Board.. Especially when the three have it out for me and it's personal.

Slocum and Green made a big deal about replacing other school board members, but these were members who got the school through a bankruptcy and averted a teacher strike along with Fred. The budget they pass today was built on the past board's back. All they had to do was show up and let Fred do his job which, by the way, Fred's job continues which is to provide an educational and safe setting for kids and school employees. Wow.. This has got to be interesting with this Board's lynch mob mentality ?

Fred's ethics are impeccable, but what people read in the paper is reality to taxpayers/voters. Perception IS reality. How are you perceiving the Huron School System now folks ? Let me school you a bit.. Fred.. Is still doing his job which includes providing a staff that sends about 80% of the graduating class to college. Can you name similer statistics for your job ? 

This Board needs an overhaul. They obviously cannot work together. And working together is not rubber stamping. It is working towards a common goal: a great school system and a future for students and school employees. You will not see the fights with a Board that is working together. They fight in executive session and then work it out so what the public sees is seemless business. In past Boards the only members I ever saw vote no were Chubak and Suter. And Suter only voted no on raising school lunch prices. A Board that works together is good for the school. What this Board is doing is disasterous and is under Scott Slocum's unethical leadership.

Keep digging WannaBe. I believe with your sharp eyes and obvious Huron 'blood' you are going to find a lot more out about this Board of Education. I haven't even started on Sowike.  

Huron Taxpayers please wake up and ask some questions. Do not let this divided Board represent you like this !

Sold On Fox

No..
It's you that is 100% correct.

I can only hope the Sandusky Register has what it takes to figure this 'secret agenda' out.  

'And Slocum should be the one reported to the ethics committee for signing that formal agreement that authorizes this investigation, the one that is in the Register on May 17. I can’t see any record in the Board meeting minutes of where this was approved in an open meeting. This definitely is a Sunshine Law violation and he knowingly signed it. Read the Law – ORC121.22. This violation also makes everything identified in the study invalid. Read it yourself. Paragraph (H).'

You have so done your homework WannaBe. The Sunshine Law is a reality for Board members and the only thing I think they will say is it was a personel issue thus eliminating the Sunshine. But.. I believe you are right on the money that the approval has to be done in an open Board meeting with a majority. It would be sweet to find out who was there when the investigation was authorized.

I want to go on record that a Board members position is not an easy job and they are definately underpaid, (YES.. PAID), and overworked, but.. they cannot circumvent the system for the sake of a personal vendetta.

Fred's a bigger man than I, for I could not work with a 3-2 Board.. Especially when the three have it out for me and it's personal.

Slocum and Green made a big deal about replacing other school board members, but these were members who got the school through a bankruptcy and averted a teacher strike along with Fred. The budget they pass today was built on the past board's back. All they had to do was show up and let Fred do his job which, by the way, Fred's job continues which is to provide an educational and safe setting for kids and school employees. Wow.. This has got to be interesting with this Board's lynch mob mentality ?

Fred's ethics are impeccable, but what people read in the paper is reality to taxpayers/voters. Perception IS reality. How are you perceiving the Huron School System now folks ? Let me school you a bit.. Fred.. Is still doing his job which includes providing a staff that sends about 80% of the graduating class to college. Can you name similer statistics for your job ? 

This Board needs an overhaul. They obviously cannot work together. And working together is not rubber stamping. It is working towards a common goal: a great school system and a future for students and school employees. You will not see the fights with a Board that is working together. They fight in executive session and then work it out so what the public sees is seemless business. In past Boards the only members I ever saw vote no were Chubak and Suter. And Suter only voted no on raising school lunch prices. A Board that works together is good for the school. What this Board is doing is disasterous and is under Scott Slocum's unethical leadership.

Keep digging WannaBe. I believe with your sharp eyes and obvious Huron 'blood' you are going to find a lot more out about this Board of Education. I haven't even started on Sowike.  

Huron Taxpayers please wake up and ask some questions. Do not let this divided Board represent you like this !

Sold On Fox

No..
It's you that is 100% correct.

I can only hope the Sandusky Register has what it takes to figure this 'secret agenda' out.  

'And Slocum should be the one reported to the ethics committee for signing that formal agreement that authorizes this investigation, the one that is in the Register on May 17. I can’t see any record in the Board meeting minutes of where this was approved in an open meeting. This definitely is a Sunshine Law violation and he knowingly signed it. Read the Law – ORC121.22. This violation also makes everything identified in the study invalid. Read it yourself. Paragraph (H).'

You have so done your homework WannaBe. The Sunshine Law is a reality for Board members and the only thing I think they will say is it was a personel issue thus eliminating the Sunshine. But.. I believe you are right on the money that the approval has to be done in an open Board meeting with a majority. It would be sweet to find out who was there when the investigation was authorized.

I want to go on record that a Board members position is not an easy job and they are definately underpaid, (YES.. PAID), and overworked, but.. they cannot circumvent the system for the sake of a personal vendetta.

Fred's a bigger man than I, for I could not work with a 3-2 Board.. Especially when the three have it out for me and it's personal.

Slocum and Green made a big deal about replacing other school board members, but these were members who got the school through a bankruptcy and averted a teacher strike along with Fred. The budget they pass today was built on the past board's back. All they had to do was show up and let Fred do his job which, by the way, Fred's job continues which is to provide an educational and safe setting for kids and school employees. Wow.. This has got to be interesting with this Board's lynch mob mentality ?

Fred's ethics are impeccable, but what people read in the paper is reality to taxpayers/voters. Perception IS reality. How are you perceiving the Huron School System now folks ? Let me school you a bit.. Fred.. Is still doing his job which includes providing a staff that sends about 80% of the graduating class to college. Can you name similer statistics for your job ? 

This Board needs an overhaul. They obviously cannot work together. And working together is not rubber stamping. It is working towards a common goal: a great school system and a future for students and school employees. You will not see the fights with a Board that is working together. They fight in executive session and then work it out so what the public sees is seemless business. In past Boards the only members I ever saw vote no were Chubak and Suter. And Suter only voted no on raising school lunch prices. A Board that works together is good for the school. What this Board is doing is disasterous and is under Scott Slocum's unethical leadership.

Keep digging WannaBe. I believe with your sharp eyes and obvious Huron 'blood' you are going to find a lot more out about this Board of Education. I haven't even started on Sowike.  

Huron Taxpayers please wake up and ask some questions. Do not let this divided Board represent you like this !

donutshopwannabe
SOF -   You are correct.  They can go into Executive session to discuss/consider personnel issues.  ORC121.22 Paragraph (G) allows for that plus a number of other things.  So they were OK there but they screwed up when Slocum signed that formal "Authorization to Investigate".  I read that in the Register.  This agreement was not published in the daily paper, only the online edition.  So not many have seen this.  It was published somewhere around middle of May.  I think it was tagged onto the article about the bus diver at the end as a Pdf file.  Check it out.   Anyway, ORC 121.22 paragraph (H) says:   "A resolution, rule, or formal action of any kind is invalid unless adopted in an open meeting of the public body. A resolution, rule, or formal action adopted in an open meeting that results from deliberations in a meeting not open to the public is invalid unless the deliberations were for a purpose specifically authorized in division (G) or (J) of this section and conducted at an executive session held in compliance with this section. A resolution, rule, or formal action adopted in an open meeting is invalid if the public body that adopted the resolution, rule, or formal action violated division (F) of this section."   So in summary, you can consider in an Executive session but you cannot take formal action. Here is a real simple analogy. You can go into an Executive Session to consider/discuss firing someone but you cannot actually fire that individual in Executive Session, you must come out and take this formal action in an open meeting. Makes sense right.   Now we don't know when or where this formal agreement was signed because there is no date on it.  But what we do know is that there is no record of this agreement being adopted in an open meeting. So Slocum either: 1) signed it not in an open meeting knowing he was violating the Sunshine Law, or 2) he did not know the Sunshine Law and maybe was advised erroneously by some else.  But as President, he should know the Law.  So either way you look at it, he screwed up.   But if nobody challenges it, then it gets swept under the rug.  Hopefully, the Register will dig into this and they should take this to the Ethics Committee.  This is a biggee and I think Slocum can be held personally libel.   Will be interesting to see this play out.  Plus after reading the Viewpoint Editorial last night, you certainly can see what side the Register is on.     
Sold On Fox

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Sold On Fox

Unfortunately to the moderators..

If you were doing your jobs and actually reporting on what is 'actually' going on the comments stated would have been FACT and not what you consider to be 'libelous'.

Defamatory ? Yes, but all facts.

So.. Investigating Fred Fox is neither libelous or defamatory ?

As usual.. the Register doing another fabulous job of reporting the facts..

Maybe your 'superintendent' needs an investigation ?

donutshopguy

  The people elect school board members. The school board is the only group that can hire and fire the superintendent. If three of the five school board members question Mr. Fox's ethics than he should be looking for a new job.

Hey donutshopwannabe your training begins every morning at the Huron Donut Shop.  It's an interesting experience.  Everything you want to know about Huron and a lot you don't.

fudge pies

It was very clear when  two people ran for board what their reasoning was. #1. get rid of the super #2 get rid of the hs principal #3 get rid of the AD.    two out of three in the works!   The newbee on the board will not back down until he succeeds.  Thats his goal. Once he has succeeded, he will finish his term and not run for BOE again.

 

windyglen

Small Town

I agree in part to your comment-the newest board member had/has an agenda that has nothing to do with what is best for the Huron City schools or the residents of Huron. (can you believe he is a business owner and resident himself! and while everyone is throwing around the relationships of board members and school staff lets not forget that two board members are/were connected through marriage to the football coach-hmm coincidence - I think NOT!).

BUT...just to clear up any misunderstanding about the departure of the hs principal-he took a position that is a promotion and is not tied in any way to the super's issues.  It is a shame his years of dedication to the district have to me overshadowed by the possible wrong doings of the super and the personal agenda of the newest board member!

Let's focus on the issue at hand-the alleged ethics violations of the super and the personal agenda of the newest board member.

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Donutshopguy,
You are correct on all three of your points. It will hurt the Huron School System, but Fred Fox cannot possibly work with this Board.

And..
It takes an almost 'act of God' to get rid of a Board member, so if he decides to stay he will be stuck with them.

Maybe not for the training, but the Huron Donut Shop has pretty good donuts !

car 54

    Fred,  my Huron township neighbors claim you are indeed in hot water! Maybe some kick-backs from the stadium project? I wonder when the treasure's name appears.

   I'd say the board has some decent cards at the table.

Sold On Fox

Where were the Huron Schools ten years ago.?. on the brink of Bankruptcy.

The Board at the time with Fred got the school out of fiscal disaster and also averted a teacher's strike. The school's buildings and facilities are fantastic. Did the current Board have anything to do with this ?
HELL NO !

The current Board road on past Board's backs and on Fred Fox's back.

Soweke is a whole different subject. What has he done in his short time on the Board ?
Disruption.
Wonder if he runs his own business like that ?

Fred Fox HAS DONE HIS JOB !
Look around at the district and look at their success with students and their futures.

Huron.. WAKE UP !

Do not let Soweke, Greene, Slocum and the football coach ruin what you have: a solid school district with a great leader who has results to show for it. Where are Slocum, Greene and Soweke's results ?

Please list them.. someone ?

And now all of the buzzards are circling. Watch and see what this does to our school district and it's credibility, Mr. All Knowing and Powerful Slocum.

fudge pies

after the huron community decided to vote for a levy hike after they saw our fine teachers take a PAY FREEZE, and everything taken away from the kids except the shirts on their backs, the community said OK, YOU have cleared the table  now we'll start over.  and low and behold the first thing that happens is a pay raise for the super...   right smack dab after the teachers oked their pay to freeze.  i took that as a slap in the face to our fine teachers.  i think comments about the "dog waggin the tail" and such didnt set in well with some teachers like the fine football coach huron has.  The problem here is the BOE has to overlook the entire school.  Enough of this bull turds about doing the politically correct thing and fix problems that need fixed. The super makes over 100k's per year. he shouldnt be taken anything from kalahari.  if he does he should report it. it should go his taxes as well. watch out for the IRS.

 

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worddrow811

Is Monica Asher still the athletic director? Is Jim blodgett still the bus supervisor? Is Sue millhouse the bus driver on suspension? when you talk in initials it's difficult to understand, at least for me, what is being said about whom. Thank you.

SanduskyMomOf3

Sold on Fox,

Shame on you! No one (not even Fox himself, apparently) knows what this investigation is about and yet you have the nerve to accuse the football coach of "orchestrating" the whole thing? How many years has Fox been in Huron, maybe 12 or 13? And now according to you, out of the blue the football coach is orchestrating this out of some perceived wrong committed over a decade ago? That doesn't make sense, and you have no right to drag this man's name through the mud.

If you think that Fox has done nothing wrong, then fine. Perhaps he hasn't and the investigation will prove just that. Maybe the board did come across something and that's why they've decided to investigate. Either way, it's an issue between Fox and the board of education.

Sit tight and see what comes out, but don't start pulling people in on your own overspeculation.

Sold On Fox

SanduskyMomof3-
Apparently Mom.. You are from Sandusky from your tag line ?

This is all happening. If you are not from Huron and not in the 'inner circle'.. you wouldn't know anything about anything I've said in my well informed 'opinion'.

This is a bigger problem than 'just' the investigation of Fred Fox and if you want to live your life and sit back and let these things happen, in Huron.. You have that right !

'Out of the Blue' would infer that no one else on this post had mentioned what I expanded on, but.. this is not true. Not only has it been mentioned it has also been stated.

You stay home and raise your children in Sandusky and hope that the people you may or may not have voted for are doing their jobs, and I as a historian of these subjects will try to prevent further damage to the students of the Huron School system.

Thanks for reading my posts..

Retiree

This person is great, this person is bad, everyone has an opinion of someone as a coach, teacher, or board member. The decision has been made to have the Ohio Ethics Committee make a decision whether there is violations within the system. Quit crying about who is good or bad, who should go or who should stay. If you feel there is a problem with the school board then run in the next election. Personally I feel someone is looking out for the taxpayers money. If there is a problem within the system, it will be found. I want to know, if I owned a business, where all my money is going. In the past, everyone just rubber stamped everything and that got the system in trouble. If there are problems, correct them and get on with business. It's my tax dollars that you are playing with and I am watching you.

topfandy

 Retiree you are right, it is our tax money and we should be concerned. My problem is if  the BOE were responsible they would have reported everything to the Ohio Ethics Commission from the start. They have an investigative unit. Why did we waste $10,000+ on a law firm to come in and do what the ethics commission will do. If they report to the ethics commission everything stays private as well and keeps the school system free from any liability issues due to wrongful accusations/allegations. What I am afraid of is by making all this public if Fox is found to be innocent of these allegations will the district be responsible for damages. If so we are headed right back to money problems.  How is that being responsible for our tax payer money. This all just stinks for our schools and kids. 

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Topfandy-

You are 100% correct that we should be concerned.

This whole debacle is not responsible and the repercussions will be felt for years.

Sold On Fox

Retiree-
Thanks for watching !
Unfortunately, watching and allowing it to go on is how our entire country has gone trillions in debt.

Who, besides Fred Fox, is looking after Huron taxpayer's money ?

And.. you show the trust of most of the sheep that we are being led to slaughter. Someone is looking out for the taxpayer's money and if there is a problem it will be found. That kind of trust led to several holocausts in our lifetime.

These people with their 'secret' agendas have dealt a blow to taxpayer's trust that will be felt for years.

The Huron School system got in trouble in the past for the same reason it's going to be in trouble in the future: No business and all property owner's paying the bill ! But.. that is the way we wanted it in Huron. We don't want the view of the lake to be obstructed with industry. Be careful what you wish for !

This whole situation is personal ! It is about who is good and who is bad. And with all this going on, WHO IS WATCHING YOUR TAX DOLLARS ?

I am satisfied that YOU Retiree, are watching, but others need to act.

Retiree

What took us into debt is the worthless war in Iraq. When Clinton left office the United States was 240 billion in the black. Who was watching our tax dollars then. Whoever is watching our tax dollars now better do their job or you will never see a levy in Huron for a long time.

How can you call people sheep. A person is entitled to their opinion. This is America.  Maybe a lot of people you call sheep should "not" have listened to George Bush. A lot of those soldier's, you consider sheep, were sent to slaughter. For what?

When you hire a person you expect them to do a good job for you. I do not feel anyone on the board has an agenda to get rid of Mr. Fox. They are doing what they feel is right and let the ethic committee decide if there are any violations. Is the ethics committee a death sentence? All they will look at are is what is considered  violations. Do you know of any violations? If there are none, why worry. Just sit back and wait for their decision. 

You talk about a holocaust, those people were forced to do what the Germans said or they were shot to death. I do not listen to the rumors, there are so many. Whatever happens is out of our control,so why evern worry about it. Have a good night. 

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Retiree-
Let's say you are right on all accounts, (which vary greatly because you are bouncing around)..

The only thing I disagree with you is that it is out of our control.

Unlike National Politics, which all we have to control is one vote, Board of Education politics is grass roots politics and very accessable. Our voice is psrt of the process.

Perception IS reality and what is perceived by the Board ordering an investigation is that Fred Fox did something wrong. The flaw in this notion is that even two of the five Board members did NOT agree that this needed to be investigated ? 40% did NOT agree, yet the public sees it as Fred Fox did 'something'.

I commend you, Retiree, for making it to the point where you can retire from your job. I hope you never had to endure 60% of YOUR bosses deciding to investigate YOU over the advice of the other 40%..

Have a great day ! (Sheep do not give their opinion so congratulations on not being wool bearing !)

partyboy

It is ironic that some of your posted were deleted.  You mentioned about being in Huron's intercircle.  There are people out there that are not in the circle that may have signifcant information regarding this investigation.  People talk to much.  Speculate without facts. Some do have the facts.  There is no one that can say they are a "golden boy."  Remember that anyone can be replaced. It can be that power goes to their head.  They feel that they are untouchable. Yes..he was good for the system..but maybe his time up. 

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partyboy

I certainly understand the 3-2 split with a school board.  Do you really think that personal vendettas linger for years and years and now they are swooping in?  Perhaps things were covered up and some thngs were not handled properly.  Now the check and balances could be in place.  That is what I am saying when I speak of "untouchable".   Sure I understand that the super has done a fine job in the last 10 years but perhaps things got out of hand.  Just thoughts to ponder.

Sold On Fox

Well put, Partyboy..

When all is said and done the personal vendettas will be uncovered, but I doubt you will read about them in the Register unless I print them.

Let's see what happens.

No one is untouchable and I just hope Fred Fox sues the Board for demeaning his charactor.

donutshopwannabe
Partyboy and SOF,   See, the reason it’s 3 to 2 is because we know that Sowecke and Green are in the same camp because of bloodlines, as has been pointed out by SOF and if you live in Huron, you just know this. And we all clearly know the nucleus of this blood line, as pointed out by SOF. I truly think the vendetta will come out eventually. Now the real puzzle piece here is Slocum. I don’t think his values are truly as he acts. I think that he does not have the fortitude to standup to Sowecke.  I think he is literally afraid of Sowecke. Sowecke pulls the strings and Slocum dances. It’s that simple. This how Scott has always been. He doesn’t think for himself. He wants to make everyone happy, in this case Tim and Donna. Plus there are some other things in Slocum's past that would challenge his credibility. Will get into those at a later date.   Question for SOF. I am going to call the Ethics Committee today. I am going to state the Sunshine Law case with the Ethics violation that the President signed a formal agreement outside of an Open Meeting.   I am going to ask them if a tax paying citizen can file this complaint.   I have a friend that said he would be happy to file this complaint if they will hear it. I’m not sure that they will even hear this complaint or the complaint that the Board is going to file. I’m told they generally do not hear small things like this. I will let you know. What are your thoughts here?   Another question for SOF. In the Open Session that was taped and posted in the Register on line, note that Sowecke references the Markling report in the Open Meeting. Does that now make that report available to the Public? Is that now a Public document? Also at the end of meeting, they are fighting over a paper that Sowecke was reading off of. So clearly with this “pre-written” message , the message being to pass this on to Ethics Committee. 1) Fred and his attorney never saw the report so how could they ever properly defend themselves, 2) Sowecke and crew had decided ahead of time that he was guilty, prior to even hearing the counter facts that Fred and his attorney presented. This is borderline vigilante law. Also, clearly denies Fred his due process rights. Plus that also means that the three who voted yes, discussed and agree ahead of time on the direction of the outcome of this meeting and who would do what during the meeting. Another Sunshine Law violation that being a “three person” Board Meeting not in Open Session.
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donutshopwannabe
I spent 35 minutes on phone with OEC yesterday. Very interesting and too much to discuss here. Will all come out in the long run. Justice will prevail. They did agree that Sunshine Law was violated and suggested we also may want to drag in the State Auditor and Attorney General. More to come, I just don’t have time to write today. Overall, was very good discussion relative to Mr. Fox’s position going forward.   Cheers!
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partyboy

That's great!  I hope you can accomplish it.  Would love to see justice served.

partyboy

SOF-very well put...however Soweke is not the only board member that has been selling to the Huron schools.  Seems like you have a lot of inside information that has just been revealed.  What is the next step for the board?

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partyboy

Sources tell me that Soweke sent everything in to the OEC.   Is that his place?

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partyboy

SOF...I am right with you.  He has a great reputation.  He has done an exceptional job with your schools.  I watched this happen over the years.  Interesting comment about the 4th grade teacher.  Does he really have that kind of power to tarnish a man's crediablilty.  Someone should check into his closet..perhaps there are skeltons that he doesn't want to expose.  I find your blogs interesting and more people should step up and take a stand aganist this unfounded travisty.

partyboy

Looks like someone felt that your comments were deleted.  Maybe the truth just got to someone.

donutshopwannabe

If Sowecke really did send in the report to the OEC, that makes the Markling report a Public Document.  The Attorney/Client Priviledge has been broken.  Anybody can get it now.  You just have to request it.  This week should be real interesting.  Why would Sowecke send this in?  Wouldn't the Board attorney do this?  The OEC process is complex - you don't just send it in.  I wonder also if Solcum directed him to do that?

This Sowecke guy is a real cowboy.  I don't know much about this but someone told me he originally started the Hometown News.  Got money from a bunch of people and shut it down a few weeks later and kept the money?  Is that true?   Does anyone know more about this?  

Sold On Fox 2

Hey PartyBoy..
I'm back. And yes, the truth apparently hit too close to someone's home.

WannaBe -
Where do you make the request to see the information ?

Apparently voters don't look closely enough when choosing people to represent them on Boards of Education or they may have looked into the 'alleged' embezzlement of funds from the failed newspaper.

My comments were deleted and my login 'Sold On Fox' was disabled as someone decided to shut down what I had to say. The Register is not at fault here as they have not got enough time or people to go through and check the validity of every post. Let's just say I know how it happened and why it happened, but am not going to tell anyone else how it's done. I will keep that 'truth' quiet hoping it does not happen again ! But... if it does, I will pop up again and continue to fight against the way the current Huron Board of Education is doing business.

This is where we are:

The Huron Board of Education Votes in 'Executive Session' to investigate Huron superintendent Fred Fox for unknown deeds for which they don't even tell Fred Fox what it is that he has allegedly done wrong.

By doing this the Huron Board of Education is in violation of the Sunshine Law which forces any Board of Ed to make these decisions, (vote), in open session, available to the public and the press.

The character assassination of Fred Fox and the perception created in the public about Fred Fox along with the 3-2 split Huron Board of Education will most likely result in Fred Fox leaving the Huron City Schools no matter that he WILL be found NOT GUILTY of any wrong doing.

This current Huron Board of Education, (or at least 3 of it's members), will achieve what they originally set out to do, which was to get rid of Fred Fox. Why they want to accomplish this, I am apparently not allowed to post on here or it will be deleted again, but.. THEY DEFINATELY DO HAVE A REASON !

What the Huron Board of Education is not good for students, school employees or the taxpayers of Huron.

When are the Huron Taxpayers / Voters going to wake up and see this Board for what they are ?
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partyboy

SOF2~

I admire your tenacity.  You have great insight and it should be known.  The community should be aware of the motives of the board members that are heading this witch hunt.  I will continue to follow you posts, which I find quite accurate.

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Per what usually happens..

All interest lost in this issue.

Fred Fox will be heading to a higher paid job somewhere that they appreciate him and this Huron Board of Education will hire an extremely weak substitute as their leader.

The Huron Board of Education will have 'fixed' the Huron City Schools once again and who will suffer ?

Huron students / school employees / Huron taxpayers.. That's all.

and... The Huron Board of Ed will continue to make biased decisions based on their own private agendas.

Huron Voters / Taxpayers.. Please.. WAKE UP AND GET RID OF THIS BOARD BEFORE THE SCHOOLS ARE TOTALLY SCREWED BY THEIR CHAOTIC ACTIONS !!

concerned huron...

What do you mean by all interest lost in this issue?  You, others?  Does anyone even attend school board meetings?  There is one next Tuesday.  It doesn't do any good to make comments in the Sandusky register telling Huronites to wake up and get rid of the board without actually giving them an option or a means to do so, and most probably don't read the comments any way.  In order to choose better board members, people actually have to run for board, and from what I remember last year, only a few did and not much to pick from.  A grassroots effort is needed.

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After watching days go by with no constructive input on this issue, I actually posted 'all interest lost' before even seeing your post. My apologies. There's 2 of us posting here with interest ? (Actually there are a few more on here, but this forum lacks the stage it takes to make anything happen).

Grassroots is exactly what is needed and exactly what some on here have attempted to inspire.

You obviously read the comments. And.. You obviously decided to do something.

Few 'good unbiased' people have the time or energy to become a board of ed member. The ones who do make it are there for a reason and we, the public, can only hope that reason is constructive and based on better schools for students / school employees / taxpayers.

The facts are we got what we got with this Board of Ed. And you have offered some constructive input as to how to change it. Better late than never !

What is going to happen now is definately evolution and the problem is that it is almost certainly NOT going to be positive.

I hope a lot of people/taxpayers show up for the meeting on Tuesday, but my experiance has been that people complain privately.. It takes quite a situation, like canceling football, to get people to act.

My message is to go Tuesday. My message is to not just sit there and let it happen.

Because I didn't mention the meeting you are going to judge me ? If you read some posts back, especially by Donutshopwannabe, you will find that we, (yes, we), are in contact with the Ohio Ethics Committee. What you won't find is that I am in contact with several news sources and am attempting to get them to look more closely into what is actually going on here.

I'm personally glad to see your input and from 2 posts I have formed an opinion that you are a person of action and will probably see you at the board meeting.

concerned huron...

Sorry if it came across as giving you a hard time or attacking you.  As far as school board meetings go, I have not attended any yet, but do look at meeting minutes and many of them say no public participation, and honestly do not know if that means no one showed up or no one had any comments.  I have read the comments here, and prior to the fiasco have wanted to somehow get involved to promote change, but unsure how, but know that a group is more effective than an individual.   Check your email.

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It's ok Concerned..
That wasn't an attack. Run for public office and you will see attacks.

I urge you to attend the Tuesday meeting and if you really plan on running for the board, go to every meeting. They will eventually let you freely join conversations because they are usually there alone and appreciate the input !

Change happens all of the time in schools and is fueled by volunteers. There are several parent organizations that are available to you.

A few years ago the Huron City Schools went through 'Strategic Planning'.. Wonder where that plan is now ?

Nothing in my email, but will continue to check..

donutshopwannabe

SOF -

Can you elaborate on the Sowecke/Hometown News issue.  Just do it in a manner that would not be edited off this site.  I need to understand this better as I continually hear bits on the street.  Just state the facts please.  Thanks much!

All - get ready because Tuesday's meeting will be wild again.  It's my understanding that the Register has requested much, much Public Records over the last three weeks.  So I'm sure that after the meeting on Tuesday night there will be new, fesh information.  You have to also know that Tim will bring some off the wall stuff, that's a given.

 

 

 

concerned huron...
1. Could a complaint be filed against Sowecke with the Ohio Ethics Commission due to his rumored hidden agenda and violating Ohio School Board Code of Ethics?   2.  Would it be possible to recall Sowecke? Sowecke's theme for running for school board was he "didn't want Washington's problems to become Huron's problems. What does that even mean? What about the education of our kids?   I have serious concerns about the education of our kids and would like to run for school board but fear that it is a popularity contest rather than voters actually caring about the intentions of the candidates. If you really want change, we need a grassroots effort, find people that actually know something and care about educating kids, and create some sort of group. If Sowecke were recalled, would Mr. Fox stay or would it be too late?

 

 The below info I copied and pasted from www.ohioschoolboards.org so sorry about formatting issues:

Ohio does not have a statute that permits voters to recall elected public officials. Instead it has a series of statutes (Ohio Revised Code (RC) Sections 3.07-3.10) that permit the removal from office of a public official for misconduct in office. RC 3.07 specifically provides that a public official, including a school board member “… who willfully and flagrantly exercises authority not authorized by law, refuses or willfully neglects to enforce the law or to perform any official duty imposed upon him by law, or is guilty of gross neglect of duty, gross immorality, drunkenness, misfeasance, malfeasance or nonfeasance is guilty of misconduct in office.”

RC 3.08 provides the procedure to initiate removal of a public official. It requires that petitions specifically setting forth the charge must be signed by qualified electors residing in the school district totaling 15% of the total vote cast for governor in the most recent election. If that number of signatures is obtained on petitions, the petitions are then filed in the court of common pleas. After notice to the public officials against whom the charges are filed, a hearing is held before the judge (or in some cases a jury) and the judge renders a decision as to whether the charges have been proved and whether they warrant removal of the individuals from public office.

 

The board is ultimately accountable to citizens for the way schools are governed and managed, as well as for the results achieved. Although policy development is a major function of boards of education, ironically, board members often find that little time is devoted to the important job of crafting policy. One factor that makes effective policymaking difficult is the urge by some board members, or any other individuals or groups attempting to influence them, to become involved in the minutia of administration. The district suffers when board members try to manage schools or promote their political interests or the interests of certain groups.

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Concerned Huron-
I don't have much time today to even go over what you have presented, but I have to admire what I just quickly skimmed over.

The main problem being if 2000 people voted for Soweke we would need at least 500 signatures to reach the goal of 15%, (people don't always tell the truth about voting.. privacy issues, etc.. but in order to get 15% you have to collect a 'few' more)

If the news EVER breaks, (Hello Register !), that Soweke actually did break the law, getting 500 signatures should not be too hard.

I'm going to spend some time reading your post, but at this time I just want to thank you for being a concerned citizen ! (Huron students, Huron school employees and Huron taxpayers should all be thanking you !)

concerned huron...

Why depend on the Register to break the news?  Why not get together and form some sort of group?  I am a Huron outsider, chances are if I ran for school board, I would not be elected even though I have very specific concerns and agenda for improving the education of students, particularly the lower elementary kids.  Unfortunately, most people don't pay any attention to the school board and electing members unless they have a specific issue with the school.

Sold On Fox 2

Why depend on the Register to break the news ? 
(Not waiting.. Attempting to issue them 'press reports' rather than letting them sit back and let it happen)

Why not get together and form some sort of group? 
(Other groups have been formed in the past and have been effective. This group has to be made up of people who can speak without fear of cosequences. A small group of about 5 respected Huron residents would be listened to.. Wait.. that sounds like a school board).

I am a Huron outsider, chances are if I ran for school board, I would not be elected even though I have very specific concerns and agenda for improving the education of students, particularly the lower elementary kids. 
(You have a lot of the qualities it takes to be a school board member. You obviously care about kids. The Huron system is actually 'better' than most, but still needs improvement. If that is your agenda I say go for it ! Start now. Get your name heard at meetings. Volunteer in the schools. Become a part of the system and the voters will come.)
 
Unfortunately, most people don't pay any attention to the school board and electing members unless they have a specific issue with the school.
(Exactly ! But.. I believe people want the best school system even if they don't have kids in it. When things go well.. they are smooth and you never hear anything. At this point I just don't think the Huron community knows what a dilemma this board of ed has put them in. It's not affecting them.. YET !

You have a lot to offer to our community. I am glad you are concerned ! Let's do something.