Raid at Outlaws club house

Police, FBI converge on DeWitt Avenue location
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May 29, 2013

 

Perkins police officers, FBI agents and officers from other law enforcement agencies have surrounded the Outlaws Club House on DeWitt Avenue near the Ohio Veterans Home. 

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Swiftshot

Go get em boys.

Sharin' Johnson

This could put a damper on Ohio Loud D-Bag Week, but somehow I think all the middle age dudes on disability will make it louder than ever!

It'd be great if all these law enforcers banded together to enforce noise ordinance laws against the costume wearing, traffic clogging low testosterone havers.

Statealltheway

This is quite possibly one of the best, funniest comments I've read on here hahaha Man I can't stand Bike Week -- they should move that crap show to some other town far far away from here.

Maboom2Paul

Whoa Sharin' Are all these men on disability? Do you think it is fun to be on disability? Let me clue you in . It is not fun being on disability, it's horrible, you lose track of all your co workers. Not to mention the affliction that put you there. That statement was uncalled for. Say what you will, I am not sticking up for anyone here. I do know of some of these members whom are hard working individuals. People on disability are often reviewed, so, if they are on it they need to be. I really take offense to that part of that statement. Independently wealthy are you?

jimi

Everyone wants to be a computer cammando on here. You twits wouldn't have the balls to say that crap to an Outlaw's face. Period.Just because Johnny Law dog did a raid,doesnt mean folks are going to jail. How bout that COP club Iron Order? BANNED from Easyrider events. Everyone wants to judge folks. Thats like sayin all Catholic's are diddling little kids. Dnt group people together because of some members. How about Jimmy Sweigert? Are all christains like him? You may not like bikers coming to Sandtown, but it puts ton's of money in your citys pockets. After all this if you feel that way,come find an Outlaw and express how you truly feel. Make a dentist appt ahead of time. SYLO

Erie County Resident

Really nice threats there jimi.

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I don't think Jimi was making any threats...I think Jimi was stating facts. And I agree, I don't think any of you loud mouths got balls enough to confront an outlaw! As for the "raid", what a joke!!! 7:30 in the AM?

1000's of people enjoy Bike Week and I think its bull that a few of you idiots can't put up with some noise so that other people can have enjoyment their lives.

one of the biggest problems with Sandusky is that everything that can be done in this town to improve it, somehow rubs the "finer" citizenry's noses the wrong way people! Get over yourself, YAY, YAY, YAY Bike Week is here to stay and it should be!!!! You don't see the people in Daytona whining like a bunch of babies...wouldn't you like to have a town was worth coming too?

TrollingRageind...

I'll bring a 5 foot tall korean man to deliver a swift roundhouse right on the noggin of an outlaw. Let's hope that outlaw has dental insurance!

Maboom2Paul

What's wrong with you people and your threats.Live and let live.

TboneWalkerJr

Outlaws are just that, 1 percenter criminal TRASH. Nobody trashed all bikers there SKIPPY. Outlaws are criminal trash that give all bikers a bad rep and name. You jimi, sound just like the whining liberal losers who say >Why dont you say that to a black man's face? All you did was prove that Outlaws are every bit the scum of the earth that everyone thinks they are.

That said, I'd love to see one start some road rage while driving. My 5000 pound SUV against an Outlaw on a bike, I win no matter what big bad patch the LOSER is wearing. Maybe a small dent on one fender for me, an Outlaw on life support waiting to give away his organs. THen again, nobody would take the drug-soaked organs from an outlaw

Karma Watcher

Well Said Tbone

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kimi43464

Wow!!!!! Who's making threats while cloaked in anonymity? 5000 pound SUV and a biker on life support? What classy people you are. Outlaws are far less "trash" than you've just proven yourself to be!!!

TboneWalkerJr

Sounds like you've (sort of) got the READING part down kimi, but the critical part is the COMPREHENSION. Reading without comprehension is like gasoline without the burny parts.

IF an Outlaw STARTED road raging directed at me. That is the part that those with limited intelligence or comprehension miss out on. Not you of course. you is obviously very smrt

Maboom2Paul

I read the police blotter every day, and I have never once read a police call to their headquarters. Just because they ride a Harley they are bad. Shame on you for your judgement. Who made you God?

TboneWalkerJr

So what is printed, or not in the police blotter of a backwoods paper proves what exactly?

No, Skippy, they are not bad for riding Harleys

They are bad for ALLEGEDLY (see, I said ALLEGEDLY, moderators!)

Massive meth dealing
organized crime
murder for hire
murder for fun
being self-proclaimed ONE-PERCENTERS which you probably don't even know the meaning of

So, Maboom2Paul, try looking beyond the Sandusky Police blotter in the Register for your knowledge of the world and you would be amazed at what is out there beyond the Register police blotter

it's all at your fingertips for the asking. But no matter what is available, nothing can overcome intentional ignorance

jimi

It's easy to say those things behind your computer tough guy. I'd love to see you hit an Outlaw and think your gonna just drive away.First ,you would have to deal with the law.Second, GFOD.So since you dont know,(God Forgives,Outlaws Dont)Ya have to keep turning your Republican head everywhwere you go. Like i said, YOU aint got the BALLS to do nothing but run your face and fingers. Hell, i dont know why i'm wasting my time arguing with a Weiner.Some Outlaws even have their carry conceal permits. Yeah, you aint drivin away.

dire wolf

So are you trying to say that they are thugs Jimi???? Please don't make them out to be that. One thing you are wrong on Jimi. When the FBI has conducted a raid. Somebody is looking at jail time. It's usually just a matter of getting the little fish to turn on the big fish. The FBI is in no rush, but you can rest assured the evidence was already secured well before the raid takes place. The raid doesn't happen until the outcome has already been determined. At that point, it's their way of saying that they are done with that facility, we have all we need. They love to wait before charges, because now some people may sing like a bird to save themselves.

jimi

I'm not trying to say that they are thugs.I'm not going to go into detail, but i know a litle more about the Outlaws then most.I also know that the law is corrupt and the justice system works for those that have the money to make it work for them. Seen it too many times. You think Mexico is corrupt? Its in your own back yard.People like to comment on things that they have no clue as to what is going on. The Media helps it along too. Ya think Bikers are the only ones smokin a little pot with their friends? I know alot of prodominent people who also indulge and you would never have guessed. And thats against the law as well. Just because its bikers, everyone makes a big deal.Everyone is spewing discontent and crap out of their mouths but it may be an Outlaw who comes to your aid one day as your laying hurt or in distress. Karma is real.

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BULLISDEEP

BET toilets are a flushing.

BATMAN 2007

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BULLISDEEP

Didn't know we were on video conference batdung..
all anyone has to do is google ..... outlaws . Then go thru the sites .
They just said on the news, NO ARRESTS made and all info is sealed at this time , so there is no story here .

Swiftshot

From what I understand, the whole group is under invstigation and some of the group members have moved out of the area. When you get involved with a group like that, you should expect some police attention.

TboneWalkerJr

So they are all running like COWARDS with a YELLOW STAIN running down their pasty white legs?

badboy

That house has seen a lot of history, long before the Outlaw's bought it.

Sharin' Johnson

Please elaborate

deertracker

Do tell!

WhyRweHere

Ill bet this will net a baggy of weed....lol

BATMAN 2007

I'll take your bet and raise you 3 eggs on fbi's face lol

dire wolf

I am not positive, but my understanding is that standard procedure for the fbi would be not to raid an address until you already have all the evidence needed for charges. The raid usually is for the icing on the cake.

TboneWalkerJr

Your trust of the FBI is laughable

reporter54

I hope they find absolutely nothing and get egg all over their faces. Because it's a motorcycle club it's regarded as a gang. LE assumes illegal activity even if there isn't any. It could very well have everything to do with that one member making accusations. I once lived next to a house that was raided-after they had all moved out! How's that for investigating?

candleburner

I understand what you're saying that not all motorcycle clubs are gangs but this particular club has been trouble for a long time so this raid isn't surprising and I'm not sure why it's considered breaking news other than the FBI is involved this time. And maybe because it's so close to bike week which I'm dreading and I do every year. I can't stand the bikers coming in and taking over the town and thinking they don't have to abide by the rules because they're on motorcycles. And yes I've had motorcyclist go weaving in and out around me as I'm driving the posted speed limit and it's like they don't care, as I'm driving in my car I have to watch out for them but they don't have to be careful how they're driving at all. I watch for them just as I watch for other cars but I would appreciate the same courtesy in return and it just doesn't seem like I get it and that's why I can't stand bike week. Yeah I know - totally off subject!

faith-hope-love

Your last statement was very true, totally off the subject...but since you went there, here is something for you to ponder on. It is a shame that people automatically stereotype "biker's". I am sure that the city doesn't hold bike week every year with the sole intent of annoying you. What ever it is that you personally take interest in doing, I'm quite sure that their are people who are just annoyed by it as you are of bike week. Instead of complaining, try to look at it as something beyond your control. It is going to happen with or without your personal approval, perhaps you could focus on all of the temporary employment that it provides people of this town with for 2 weeks, or the revenue that our local businesses bring in. There will always be a few bad apples in every crowd, not just the biker crowd.

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kimi43464

hear hear

Lissa4u

I haven't experienced any of the things you're complaining about. In fact, I think with the people on motorcycles that enter the city during bike week have been, for the most part, courteous and respectable. Of course there are always a few that act up, but that's to be expected. I don't ride a motorcycle, but I love to go downtown and look at all of them lined up in the park. I've met some very interesting people there, too. I think you're just a little afraid of the bikers because of their appearances. For the most part, they're just nice people who like to ride bikes. I'll bet some of them, if not a lot of them, are doctors and lawyers!

Just be a little extra cautious when you're driving. Look twice before you pull out. Cut the bikers a little slack. They're only here for a week.

Sharin' Johnson

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rezzy

Costumes? Really? Sounds like jealousy to me. To educate you, most clothing articles have a road purpose. Because I feel sorry for you, I should help you progress. The leather is to keep one from skinning themselves when they are hit by less attentive drivers. The loud pipes are to ensure less attentive drivers see hear and see them. I don't really see to many slow riders, perhaps that was put in there to make your point. The only ones that hate costumes are those that were not allowed to participate in trick or treating.

Sharin' Johnson

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BATMAN 2007

in trouble a long time? I certainly can't recall any trouble with them ? WOW you must watch way too much TV .

bigsexy

Can't recall any trouble with them???? Maybe not at the local chapter, but this motorcycle club/gang is nationwide and goes way beyond the borders of DeWitt Ave.

On July 11, 2012, U.S. Marshalls raided the Indianapolis Outlaws Chapter clubhouse and arrested 42 members for crimes ranging from mail fraud to money laundering. Law enforcement agencies conducted the raids at dawn in an attempt to catch members off guard. U.S. Attorney Joe Hogsett said their offenses included using violence to collect debts and illegal gambling operations.

On June 15, 2010 the ATF surrounded the home of Thomas "Tomcat" Mayne. Gunfire was exchanged with the ATF, ultimately killing Mayne. The ATF was there to serve a federal search warrant for an indictment that included Mayne and 26 other members of the Outlaws, for RICO charges and for the shooting of a member of the rival Hells Angels.

On August 24, 2009, 15 members of the Outlaws Philadelphia chapter were arrested in connection with a methamphetamine ring. Those arrested included chapter president Thomas "The Boss" Zaroff, Jr., and Charles "The Panhead" Rees. According to Pennsylvania District Attorney Tom Corbett, the gang sold methamphetamine in Philadelphia, Bucks, Montgomery, Chester, and Delaware counties in Pennsylvania and in Camden and Burlington counties in New Jersey.

On June 15, 2010, a grand jury in Virginia indicted 27 Outlaws members on various charges related to participating in a criminal enterprise RICO that engaged in assaults, kidnapping, drug dealing, illegal gambling, and attempted murder.

Friday, April 8, 2011 - Outlaws Motorcycle National President Sentenced to 20 Years in Prison. National President, Other Leaders Convicted of Racketeering and Other Violent Crimes.

10 Notorious Motorcycle Gangs
by Matt Sailor

#3 Outlaws Motorcycle Club

They may not be as famous as their rivals, the Hells Angels, but the Outlaws Motorcycle Club (aka the American Outlaws Association or Outlaws Nation) has exclusive bragging rights to at least one honor. They can genuinely call themselves the first outlaw motorcycle club, started in 1936 as the McCook Outlaws in Cook County, Ill. Later, they took inspiration from the 1953 Marlon Brando movie "The Wild One," even borrowing their colors from the design on Brando's leather jacket [source: Dulaney]. Ironically, that film was based on the Hollister riot that got many of the outlaw clubs started. The club is still one of the largest today, with 1,700 members in 176 chapters in 13 countries [source: National Gang Intelligence Center].

Today, the Outlaws are considered one of the Big Four and control the Great Lakes region of the United States. Much of their violent activity is the result of their ongoing feud with Hells Angels. To fund their operations, the Outlaws cook and sell crystal meth and deal other drugs like cocaine and MDMA, better known as ecstasy. They have a heavy presence in Canada, where they fight opposing gangs for control of the cross-border drug trade. Among other crimes, the Outlaws have been tried in the United States for; arson, murder, kidnapping, explosives, robbery and even running prostitution rings [source: National Gang Intelligence Center]. In Australia, the Outlaws have been charged with crimes such as assaulting police officers, attempted murder and planting bombs in rival gang members' cars [source: Barker].

Hmmmmmmmm, seems like an organized crime ring to me!

TboneWalkerJr

Facts have no place with most of the losers who post here defending them thinking they are a harmless social organization

BATMAN 2007

they didn't find anything , feds just trashed the place.

TboneWalkerJr

Ummm, the Outlaws are in FACT a one-percenter GANG by their own proud admission Skippy

observer

You people defending the Outlaws...........are you kidding me?

MrSandusky

Let's think about this....their name is 'The Outlaws"...sounds like a bunch of boy scouts to me...

BATMAN 2007

there is also a racing circuit called "outlaws" does that make them "bad" drivers?? what about the clothing line brand "outlaws"? gesh bet those are "hot goods " huh?

nap4lm69

Let me start by saying that I am currently deployed, flying Combat missions over Afghanistan. Next I would like to say that I grew up in Castalia, with I am 22 years old with harley tattoos. Typical biker stereotype. I also personally know quite a few of the Outlaws MC members. What you dont understand is that it is like a brotherhood to them. A way of being a group. Most of those guys, if it wasn't for the clothing they were wearing you would think they could be part of a knitting club due to how good of people they are. Which is obviously way better than you with your discriminating due to their name. Why don't you go search through this site for all the times they have had fundraisers and volunteered for things around your community. Next time you decide to be prejudice make sure its to someone who may actually deserve it.

pptrsha

why do people feel like they have to write something when it is obvious that they don't know anything about the subject. it is really simple, if you want to read the comments do, but if you have no firsthand knowledge then you are not obliged to write anything. some of the comments on this whole site seem like they are written by people that just want to vent their ire because their lives are so uninteresting.

WhyRweHere

Why don't you answer your own question??

Justme...

I caught that irony as well.

WhyRweHere

Lol

Swiftshot

Rofl, welcome to the blogging community of the register. Sounds like u should take your own advise.

BATMAN 2007

pptrsha you are absolutely correct most comments I have read have no basis and are clueless.

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Including all of your comments.

BATMAN 2007

bull is deep, change ur pullups lil boy you have the mentality of a kindergardener!

BATMAN 2007

pptrsha you are absolutely correct most comments I have read have no basis and are clueless.

OH-IO

pptrsha your so right. I comment alot on other websites but there is an obvious mean streak by many bloggers here that normally isn't related to the topic of discussion. You got alot of disgruntled people visiting this site.

Mum-of-One

By taking law into their own hands, vigilantes flout the rule of law, effectively becoming lawmaker, police officer, judge, jury, and appellate court for the cause they are pursuing

richrs

Your statement makes no sense.

sandusky2012

dont see spd there ... guess that says it all about the GOB

PaulYall

That's because its a "Perkins Township" issue..not a Sandusky Police Department issue!

sandusky2012

guess you didnt read this: Perkins police officers, FBI agents and officers from other law enforcement agencies ... guess SPD is not other law enforcement officers? maybe the girl scout patrol dont steal em this year

PaulYall

Maybe you didn't read Sheriff's Department! That's the other law enforcement!

sandusky2012

the could have call rotten back he could have showed i mean texted his big gun!!!

AGENT00

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PaulYall

Why don't you air your name for everyone to read if your gonna slam an innocent woman that works a 6 figure job with a masters degree! I don't think you'll put your butt on the line!!

Swiftshot

They should have waited for bike week. They probably could have snagged a couple people that left the gang after things started going down.

AGENT00

Ouch...hit a nerve

PaulYall

Birds of a feather flock together! You should be ashamed!

Swiftshot

I hear that it's an interesting experience getting raided by the FBI. Doors crashing ect. Nothing like reality slapping u around.

Julie R.

Is this the motorcyle gang that Michael Martin claimed murdered Amanda Gibson?

BATMAN 2007

julie it is a motorcycle club btw stereotyping people huh!

bigsexy

A quick 5 minute search produced this......Imagine if I really concentrated and put a really big list together.....

Stereotype all you want Julie, this so called club is nothing more then an organinzed crime ring!

On July 11, 2012, U.S. Marshalls raided the Indianapolis Outlaws Chapter clubhouse and arrested 42 members for crimes ranging from mail fraud to money laundering. Law enforcement agencies conducted the raids at dawn in an attempt to catch members off guard. U.S. Attorney Joe Hogsett said their offenses included using violence to collect debts and illegal gambling operations.

On June 15, 2010 the ATF surrounded the home of Thomas "Tomcat" Mayne. Gunfire was exchanged with the ATF, ultimately killing Mayne. The ATF was there to serve a federal search warrant for an indictment that included Mayne and 26 other members of the Outlaws, for RICO charges and for the shooting of a member of the rival Hells Angels.

On August 24, 2009, 15 members of the Outlaws Philadelphia chapter were arrested in connection with a methamphetamine ring. Those arrested included chapter president Thomas "The Boss" Zaroff, Jr., and Charles "The Panhead" Rees. According to Pennsylvania District Attorney Tom Corbett, the gang sold methamphetamine in Philadelphia, Bucks, Montgomery, Chester, and Delaware counties in Pennsylvania and in Camden and Burlington counties in New Jersey.

On June 15, 2010, a grand jury in Virginia indicted 27 Outlaws members on various charges related to participating in a criminal enterprise RICO that engaged in assaults, kidnapping, drug dealing, illegal gambling, and attempted murder.

Friday, April 8, 2011 - Outlaws Motorcycle National President Sentenced to 20 Years in Prison. National President, Other Leaders Convicted of Racketeering and Other Violent Crimes.

10 Notorious Motorcycle Gangs
by Matt Sailor

#3 Outlaws Motorcycle Club

They may not be as famous as their rivals, the Hells Angels, but the Outlaws Motorcycle Club (aka the American Outlaws Association or Outlaws Nation) has exclusive bragging rights to at least one honor. They can genuinely call themselves the first outlaw motorcycle club, started in 1936 as the McCook Outlaws in Cook County, Ill. Later, they took inspiration from the 1953 Marlon Brando movie "The Wild One," even borrowing their colors from the design on Brando's leather jacket [source: Dulaney]. Ironically, that film was based on the Hollister riot that got many of the outlaw clubs started. The club is still one of the largest today, with 1,700 members in 176 chapters in 13 countries [source: National Gang Intelligence Center].

Today, the Outlaws are considered one of the Big Four and control the Great Lakes region of the United States. Much of their violent activity is the result of their ongoing feud with Hells Angels. To fund their operations, the Outlaws cook and sell crystal meth and deal other drugs like cocaine and MDMA, better known as ecstasy. They have a heavy presence in Canada, where they fight opposing gangs for control of the cross-border drug trade. Among other crimes, the Outlaws have been tried in the United States for; arson, murder, kidnapping, explosives, robbery and even running prostitution rings [source: National Gang Intelligence Center]. In Australia, the Outlaws have been charged with crimes such as assaulting police officers, attempted murder and planting bombs in rival gang members' cars [source: Barker].

And if you are unfamiliar with RICO cases BATMAN, Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly referred to as the RICO Act or simply RICO, is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization. The RICO Act focuses specifically on racketeering, and it allows the leaders of a syndicate to be tried for the crimes which they ordered others to do or assisted them, closing a perceived loophole that allowed someone who told a man to, for example, murder, to be exempt from the trial because he did not actually do it.

TboneWalkerJr

This BATMAN CLOWN is just a TROLL,nothing more and plenty less. I suspect he is an Outlaw prospect of the lowest level. A "bottom" who is doing what a "top" Outlaw told him to do.

TboneWalkerJr

"batman" are you this gang's little cabin boy/PR rep? You and your comments defending a well known and ESTABLISHED and SELF-PROCLAIMED ONE-PERCENTER CRIMINAL biker gang are laughable. maybe you could tell us all about the knitting circles they hold with the Hells Angels, Mongols (Mongloids), Iron Coffins, every last one full of fine upstanding citizens who would never even step on a bug

jimi

Whats with this T_Bone name? Your probably a middle age White guy that joins the other white guys that think somehow they are Black.Guess again Skippy.Or, you could be and have annomosity cause you cannot join that orginization. Either way, you run them gums way too much.

Jack Frost

Wow, throwings names out there like you know something, a lot of citizens visit the clubhouse. The Outlaws are members of the riding community. They could raid the place every week and find nothing illegal there. It's a clubhouse where people that ride motorcycles and some that don't go to see friends. You people watch too much TV. When is the last time an Outlaw was arrested in Erie County. When was the last time bullets flew in Sandtown, or a Township LE was fired for something Illegal. Or a Sandtown LE was fired for something illegal. Or Customs for profiling. There are bigger problems then a MC in Perkins Twp.

Julie R.

You appear to be a little bit on the defensive side.

BATMAN 2007

Jack frost , ^5 wow you are one of few that actually has a clue common sense and brains .

BATMAN 2007

^5 jack, at least you are one of the few that even have a clue instead of stereotyping.

TboneWalkerJr

Gee Jack, or Mr. Hoff, that they don't shoot up Sandusky is proof of their harmless nature? Even animals don't go poooo where they sleep. Outlaws are self-professed One-Percenters which by definition make them a criminal biker gang. END OF STORY

Jack Frost

Offense dear. Tired of LE not arresting and investigating real crimes in our city. Drug dealers on LE payroll. Yea I know Names. What is LE response. "will investigate as time permits". Hey there is drugs being sold on my street right now. "will investigate as time permits". They will find nothing illegal on Dewitt Ave. No felony arrests will be made. The streets in Sandtown belong to the criminals. And local LE is afraid, DUI and Seatbelt tickets pay more, than investigating real crime.

BATMAN 2007

jack frost you got it all in a nutshell, no they did NOT find anything. they just destroyed a very clean well kept house!

dire wolf

i regret to inform you batman that the FBI does not raid a business until it already has all the evidence that it needs to not only charge, but convict the people they are targeting. You may not learn of any indictments for awhile because now is the time that people start to talk, when the Feds will tell them they have them nailed, and here is your chance to talk or face the charges to the full extent of the law. When they pull the trigger to raid a business, that is their statement that many months and/or years of the undercover work has paid off, and now all that is left is to let the guilty parties scramble to cover their own hides, which almost always leads to getting all guilty parties involved. It is possible that there has been a fly on the wall for many many months prior to today. The Feds will never raid a business based on a hunch or a tip. Just look at the Jimmy Dimora case. Same for the Flying Pilot J case more recently. Just today they have two people pleading guilty before even being charged. You can bet that story is far from over. In reality, they most likely were not looking for anything today that they didn't already know. Don't underestimate the Feds when they are motivated.

Pastor Ron

Well Jack the correct answer to you question when was the last time an Outlaw was arrested? The answer is October. http://www.fbi.gov/indianapolis/...

TopDawg

His question was arrested in Erie County, not just the last time one was arrested.

TaxRaider

If you read through the document, you would see it includes Ohio .... that is Sandusky, Ohio ..... and spent time in the Erie County jail. Question answered.

rezzy

The last pastor was arrested a week ago; must be that all pastors are bad

http://gawker.com/pastor-arreste...

OX

Yeah I forgot...comeon guys FBI breaks down doors all the time for no reason...said nobody ever...just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. That's why comments get deleted...let the truth be hidden...why have a site when truth can't be told

sandusky2012

maybe the FBI will raid ROTTEN-back ... rotten back bet that picture is somewhere on u-tube .. hey sandusky register if hes being fired for this would it not be part of public record or maybe someone destroyed it that be a felony tampering with evidence....?

OX

Pastor Ron...good one! I believe my comment in regards to the drugs got deleted and some names that are associated to it...saw with my own eyes and heard about the travels and violence. Some people are just stupid and turn a blind eye...you know who you are

OX

When someone uses their club as a threat to hurt someone or scare people from speaking the truth...I wouldn't think these are nice people.

ellie64

Our does this all have to do with Millhouse?

OX

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T3.1970

@Julie R. Yes Michael Martin did accuse them of her murder. He also accused other people as well. A month before he was arrested for her murder, he was at a luncheon I was at. I happened to take his picture along with two others...his comment to me was "I am sure the FBI would be interested in that picture, it will be worth alot of money someday". Not sure what he meant by that, but he had a very disturbing smile on his face when he said it. Made my skin crawl. My understanding is that authorities removed quite a bit of evidence from his home and not just on the murder of Amanda Gibson. And he was referred to as a true sociopath and it's triggered by the rejection from women. It's a shame that a beautiful life was taken...just glad he was stopped before more were.

Ithink

Why on earth would you want to take his picture? Sure, it may be worth money someday, but don't perpetuate his wrong-doings.

T3.1970

For Clarification...He made this comment after I took the picture.

Julie R.

@T3.1970: You say that Martin accused the Outlaws of Gibson's murders and he also accused other people as well. Other than the Outlaws, I didn't see anything about him accusing others. What article was that in and who else did he accuse?

You also say that the authorities removed quite a bit of evidence from his home and not just on the murder of Amanda Gibson. What kind of evidence are you talking about and if true, was that brought up at his trial? I don't remember anything like that.

You say that Martin was referred to as a true sociopath and it was triggered by women rejecting him. Wasn't Martin 54 years old? If so, one would think if he was a true sociopath and it was triggered by rejection from women he would have started murdering long before the age of 54. Another point to ponder --- Amanda Gibson wasn't raped, which is odd if he murdered her because she rejected him.

Another point to ponder --- it says in that article that I referenced that Martin's girlfriend, Tami Bollinger, admitted that Martin wrote her a letter and told her that he moved Gibson's body. First off, if he had a girlfriend how does that fit into the picture that he was rejected by women ....... and second, the letter he wrote to his girlfriend didn't say that he murdered Gibson, it just said that he moved her body.

Something doesn't fit.

T3.1970

I'm not going to go into details. I know someone that knew him and his ex wife. I believe that these things weren't mentioned as they are looking into them as well.

Julie R.

He had an ex-wife, too? Plus add on the girlfriend named Tami Bollinger? So how do you explain him being "a true sociopath made so because he was rejected by women?" Something doesn't fit in that case. One might have to wonder if Martin set Amanda Gibson up to be murdered.

Pastor Ron

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Detrain

I know alot of the outaws and they are some real nice people. Yes there are some bad outlaws out there but I have not seen it here.not every outlaw or bikers are bad people need to quit stereotyping bikers. plus I know a lot of outlaw bikers that helps out a lot in the community.a lot of people do not see it because they're blind in a stereotype bikers is being bad people. And I can't wait for Bike Week because it brings a lot of money this town is there a lot of bikers from all over the United States to come to this they're just like me and you.

VOTENO

They should raid the cop moustache biker gang.

senioritis

Aww shucks! And right before Bike Week...now who will be the Grand Marshall of the Bike Parade?

itssad1

The guys of The Outlaws are actually the kind of friends I would want to back me up. I know a few and they work jobs and have families. Just like in regular society they have some that do their own thing and get busted.You don't see any of them making the papers daily for heroin or other drugs or drinking and driving.Just because they are a motor cycle club you automatically give them a bad name. The sterotype on Bikers is just as bad as the one on Pit Bulls. Grow up people that teen boy who stab his cousin wasn't a biker crime is every where.

formeremployee

Seams like the last time I read a negative article about a local MC it was about that cop from the LE MC that was harrassing an Outlaw at Margaritaville last year. Surprised this hasn't been brought up yet

BATMAN 2007

former yes you are right ,it was a warthog mc harrassing one of them.

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S.Y.L.O

Centauri

Never forget David

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/...

The murder of David would not happen if the Outlaws MC was not in Erie County, Ohio. It is what it is.

nakoheeze

that was a shame but the facts are there were not patched outlaws in sandusky then they were dirt and grim .

CagedBirdSings

As far as Bike Week is concerned, whether you like it or don't, it does bring money into the area. Many in attendance rent hotel rooms or campsites, they buy food, shop, and pay sales taxes. You could hear of trouble at virtually any event that draws such a crowd. For goodness sake, look at the crime and trouble that Cedar Point employees and guests get into while they are in town. I do not hear many people say, "We shouldn't have Cedar Point, people who go there get into trouble."

Lumping all bikers into the same category is no different than lumping people of certain races or religions together. Plain and simple, there is good and bad in ALL groups. My husband and I have each rode Harleys for well over 20 years. In that time we have participated in many charitable events and donated A LOT of money each year to wonderful causes. Neither of us do drugs, have received DUIs, or otherwise have gotten into trouble. We are law abiding citizens who also attend church almost every Sunday. We are NOT "weekend warriors" and are proud to be bikers. Biker does not equate to MC member.

For those of you who have had negative experiences with bikers, I am sorry. It is too bad that a few bad apples have spoiled your view on a mostly good group of people. I can say that I have found some of the most genuine and kind people within the biker community. That being said, I have also run across some real idiots. I have come across bad people EVERYWHERE though, not just among bikers. Please do not judge us all by your negative experience.

As for the Outlaws, they are an MC. Many who have been in the biker community for awhile know what being a 1%'er entails. Another argument for not lumping all bikers together, the Outlaws are a 1% MC. When the Hollister riot happened in the 40's the American Motorcycle Association released a statement saying that 99% of bikers are law abiding citizens. From that point those who aren't started to refer to themselves as the other 1%. Hence the term 1%'er. I personally do not agree with this organization, but have also have witnessed some good things from them. Obviously, the heat is on them for criminal action... that I cannot defend. However, I have also witnessed some of these guys coming to the aid of charities and have witnessed them helping to keep the peace at Bike Week. As another commenter said, a lot of things DON'T happen at Bike Week because they nip it in the bud. I also credit the diligence of some of our area LE.

I know that this was long-winded and a bit off topic, but I really hate when ALL bikers are looked down upon due to the actions of a few. Please tale the time to familiarize yourself with the good in bikers too, not just the bad. Please research how many charitable organizations and causes are aided by bikers. I would venture to guess that bikers give more than most. On a personal note I can say that my husband and I, along with our biker friends, donate more and more frequently than our non-biker friends. Thank you for taking the time to read.

Superglide

The 1% of the CEO’s and banks are more corrupted than the 1% of the biker community. They just have fancy layers to get them out of trouble.

Centauri

1% verses the 99% of bikers. The 1% patch tells all. I go with the 99% of bikers. I don't care what the 99% of bikers look like. I am concerned about the 1% of bikers.

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BULLISDEEP

1% get the patch after killing .Look it up.

Cowboy

All the Outlaws are Hells Angles wanna bees! They think they look tough but all in all they are a joke! Kids in the area laugh when they drive by because they are so ridiculous looking! Move to a big city Outlaws if you really want to make your mark.

CagedBirdSings

Chicago, Atlanta, Detroit, Boston... are those big enough cities for you? If so, those are cities that the Outlaws are in. Among many others, of course.

rezzy
nakoheeze

i know these members have known some sense dirt and grim lived there rode with a club with my husband for 30 yrs there's good and bad in everything point being i believe there's a far bigger picture here no one is getting because of Indy they are trying to invoke the Rico act , which means basically guilt by association which should bother all of us !!!!!!

Centauri

Perhaps that I am also a 1% of the general population because I wasn't born to follow?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3...

CagedBirdSings

Perhaps we should be wary of you too, Centauri. ;)

Centauri

Perhaps the liars should be wary of me ;)

observer

Crime
Top 10 Notorious American Biker Gangs

Outlaws

The Outlaw Motorcycle Club is one of the more notorious and oldest clubs on this list. The gang started in Matilda’s Bar on old Route 66 in McCook, IL in 1935. Using the insignia on Marlon Brando’s leather jacket in The Wild One as inspiration, the club adopted the skull with cross pistons as their official club patch. Since the club began over 70 years ago their chapters have spread widely across the United States and have been well established in Australia, Asia, Europe and North and South America.

Harry Joseph Bowman, The World Leader of The American Outlaw Association (A.O.A.), was the international president of The Outlaws Motorcycle Club and presided over 30 chapters in the U.S. and 20 chapters in 4 other countries until he was sent to prison for 3 murders in 1999 after being on the F.B.I’s Top 10 Most Wanted Fugitive list in 1998. Across the globe members of The Outlaws have been suspected, arrested, tried and convicted of countless crimes from prostitution, trafficking in narcotics and stolen goods, arms dealing, extortion and murder.

http://listverse.com/2009/08/18/...

happyfeet64

For 16 years I rode and associated with numerous 1%ers from all over the country. I grew up here and remember Dirt and Grime(miss you Pearl)and also Lords of the Road. Do not be naive in thinking that any 1% clubs and their members are a bunch of Boy Scouts. Just because they do nice stuff(Toys for Tots etc.),please drop your naivete. They do it for the press so whatever town there are in the citizens won't hassle them. Any 1% club member will go down for their club and brothers, especially Outlaws,Angels,Bandits(Bandidos) and Pagans. I've buried too many brothers when we went to war with Outlaw affiliated clubs. ALL 1%ers take orders from their President- no matter what those orders are! Just because they're in a small town like Sandusky, do not think they are playing, they aren't, trust me!

Cowboy

They are all a bunch of misfits of society. Nobody respects them except themselves. My kidss laugh at them when they drive by.

jimi

Cowboy. The next time you are driving in your lil import car with your Family, Take a gander at your wife and see what she is thinking as a pack of bikes go by. I know what she is thinking. Wonder what it would be like to have her legs wrapped around that big burley MAN. Feeling that bike roaring underneath her. She is Quivering inside. You just dont know Bud. Every girl has a bad side. LOL Jokes on you.

nakoheeze

this was the most truthful account of the reality of a 1% club !!!!

TheIrish

The bikers bring us revenue which the city needs and the residents need. The downtown businesses thrive, that includes the State Theater and those that have invested in food and concessions. We underpay law enforcement and this event gives those men and ladies a chance to clock a few extra hours to put food on the table. I think you can put up with a little exhaust noise you old crumudgeons. Look at the bright side, the exhaust noise drowns out the bass.. Also, the event calendar has some pretty family friendly events on it. Grab your grand kids and head downtown one of these afternoons to appreciate some of the custom machines that some very talented mechanics have developed. You might just enjoy yourself.....

rezzy

Good post! I have ridden quiet bikes and Harleys with loud pipes and I can honestly say that you have a lesser chance of dying when people can hear you.

Swiftshot

That's a bunch of crap. You barely hear the pipes unless your behind them. Entering the side or from the front, it's really not that loud. You can die on a bike regardless and it is due to a lot of unaware drivers.

rezzy

My guess is that you have never ridden a Harley with loud pipes. Trying to explain this to you would be similar to a hot dog. You would have a hard time telling a person who has never tasted a hot dog how good they are, especially after having explained how they are made. To validate my point, the Oakland Police Department equipped all of their bikes with loud pipes for safety reasons. http://www.examiner.com/article/...

Swiftshot

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Onemanforce

Wow Jack Frost. Must be nice living in your naive, uninformed and "they are just a nice bunch of guys at that club house". Show up unannounced and tell them you wanna check out their pad. Go on. Oh, good luck with that btw.

Onemanforce

Oh btw I am a biker and yes I know a lot of them. In case you wondered. And no, not a d-bag. Also not a doctor or a lawyer, but close enough.

Superglide

Can he bring along Cowboy? I think he would enjoy the experience

Perkins2060

Can't wait for the costume party known as bike week to start.

Onemanforce

Hey cowboy, how much you wanna wager on your kids riding cycles when they can afford them? Lol just saying. Don't judge. As it was posted before, 99% of bikers are people that hold great status in society. The very forces that fight for you and your loved ones, state side and overseas, are FILLED with us "misfits of society" as you so eloquently phrase it. Think about it. Us "misfits of society" are willing to take a bullet for you so you can have the right to have such opinionated and uneducated ideology.

CagedBirdSings

Good post!

nakoheeze

thank you

Centauri
Onemanforce

Repost

Centauri

http://www.toledoblade.com/local...

"Prosecutors said the trial included testimony about the club's efforts to sell drugs in Sandusky"

ladydye_5

Wow...drugs being sold in Sandusky....really? Think there are MORE fish in that pond than just the MC.

anonymous_2013

The true reality is that these bikers are not the "GANG" that everyone needs to be worried about. The biggest and most dangerous gang of them all is the government! The government has ordered countless amounts of people to be murdered under the disguise of "war"! They are responsible for the deaths of vast amounts of their own citizens who died fighting for a corrupt and unjust cause! The government has admitted to dealing weapons to drug cartels! It has also been proven that the government has links to drug activity on a scale that makes anything these guys do look like child's play! The government relies on fear and intimidation to further their cause! But yet they try to enforce laws on the other people in this country in order to oppress and control them! If I were to be afraid of any "gang" it would be the government of this country! They are only motivated and fueled by how much money they can "extort" from the citizens of this country! They are not out to help you their only purpose is to control and take advantage of you! Open your eyes people! Inform yourselves and prepare for it to get much worse!

Julie R.

LIKE.

asitwasstated

This anonymous_2013 BETTER BE REMOVED FROM THIS SITE AS they are being investigated as a threat to other people!! This is unacceptable if you want to continue a viable blog!

anonymous_2013

How am I a threat to others? Simply by stating facts that have been proven? Or is it due to expressing my opinion and concern for my fellow citizens?

Julie R.

Maybe that Martin guy was telling the truth about the murder of Amanda Gibson. Wasn't there drugs involved in that? Didn't somebody say Gibson was going to rat out some people? And then there was that other case in Sandusky with that Chapman guy that the SPD claimed committed suicide outside his home in an alley. Didn't somebody say Chapman was a drug informant?

Moldy

can we say RICO??

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