Report: Feds seize Verizon phone records

Newspaper says NSA is collecting phone records of millions Americans under secret court order
Associated Press
Jun 5, 2013

The National Security Agency currently is collecting the telephone records of millions of U.S. customers of Verizon under a top secret court order, Britain's Guardian newspaper said Wednesday.

The order was granted by the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court on April 25 and was good until July 19, the newspaper said. The order requires Verizon, one of the nation's largest telecommunications companies, on an "ongoing, daily basis" to give the NSA information on all telephone calls in its systems, both within the U.S. and between the U.S. and other countries.

The newspaper said the document, a copy of which it had obtained, shows for the first time that under the Obama administration the communication records of millions of U.S. citizens were being collected indiscriminately and in bulk, regardless of whether they were suspected of any wrongdoing.

The Associated Press could not authenticate the order because documents from the court are classified.

Verizon spokesman Ed McFadden said Wednesday the company had no comment. The White House declined comment and referred questions to the NSA. The NSA had no immediate comment.

Under the terms of the order, the phone numbers of both parties on a call are handed over, as is location data, call duration, unique identifiers, and the time and duration of all calls. The contents of the conversation itself are not covered, The Guardian said.

The broad, unlimited nature of the records being handed over to the NSA is unusual. FISA court orders typically direct the production of records pertaining to a specific named target suspected of being an agent of a terrorist group or foreign state, or a finite set of individually named targets. NSA warrantless wiretapping during the George W. Bush administration after the 9/11 attacks was very controversial.

The FISA court order, signed by Judge Roger Vinson, compelled Verizon to produce to the NSA electronic copies of "all call detail records or telephony metadata created by Verizon for communications between the United States and abroad" or "wholly within the United States, including local telephone calls," The Guardian said.

The law on which the order explicitly relies is the "business records" provision of the USA Patriot Act.



^^^ “He's gotten nuttier.” – 4shizzle, 6/5/13 :)


^^^“I've got better things to do than to bicker with you.”


^^^ “Later Satan's channel.” – 4shizzle, 6/5/13 :)


Talking to your self I see.



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He's drinking pretty heavily lately.


He's a drunken fool.


^^^ "You taunt like the immature person you are." - 4shizzle, 6/4/13 :)


Re: He's drinking pretty heavily lately.

^^^“Another insightful comment by bonehead.” - the Big Dog’s back, 6/5/13 :)


Must be " Binge Week" for Contango.


Gotta love that "Patriot" act now huh??? Reasonable expectation of privacy that EACH citizen has is being completely trampled on...
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,..."


Big Brother. It's happening.
Book: 1984 by George Orwell.


Great book!

IMO, we're closer to "Brave New World" - amusing ourselves into a dystopia.


Wait,,,The contents of the conversations is not covered? Wow What is it they looking for, people who gone over on their minutes then?? WTF! Another waste of taxpayers dollars..I pray the next 3.5 years go by fast, before we as Americans have no rights what so ever....

"Our government in their ‘twisted way’ has enacted laws that directly infringe on our, the American citizens, liberty, freedom and assumed rights of privacy. I encourage all to read and research and come to your own conclusions. To begin your research begin with FISA, the NDAA, Patriot Act those are only the tip of the iceberg."

I am puzzled by some of the comments here on Why would you support the taking away of freedoms and rights of American citizens? If you support the government's assault on the rights and freedoms of Americans, then sign a waiver to give up your rights and freedoms. I and others as political activists will continue the fight to preserve what freedoms and rights of Americans are still intact.


From the link that I posted above:

"Suppose you received a wrong number call or text message from a suspected terrorist either from this terrorist located in the U.S. or in a foreign country plausible we all receive from time to time wrong number calls. Oops now you are part of the data record they seek. To add to this scenario lets suppose you are a regular blogger and have made comments the government would find offensive. Lets add a few more ingredients suppose you own a cache of weapons, hunting, designated assault weapons .."

You got a wrong number call from terrorists. Expect a raid on your house by the storm troopers.


The government no longer fears its citizens.


Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.):

"'I'm a Verizon customer,' Graham said. 'I don't mind Verizon turning over records to the government if the government is going to make sure that they try to match up a known terrorist phone with somebody in the United States.'"

Being a part of the American Ruling Class (nomenklatura) he wouldn't.

Vote for EITHER one of the Dumb and Dumber parties - IT DOESN'T MATTER!

Remember: "McBama" and then "Obamny" won!


Re:"I just want to know who is getting paid to go thru all these calls, and how much is it costing the taxpayers?"

Done with a computer.

Only a handful out of the millions will ever get a glance.


"AT&T alone now responds to an average of more than 700 requests a day, with about 230 of them regarded as emergencies that do not require the normal court orders and subpoena."

Note: The govt. declares them as EMERGENCIES - no court order needed.

Kinda like THEY get to decide WHO is and who is NOT a "terrorist" before THEY arrest you, put you in military confinement or "drone" you and your family.


"The Secret Law Behind NSA's Verizon Snooping":

"The legal interpretation of the 2001 Patriot Act that the court appears to have used was itself classified."


A govt. of the ruling class, by the ruling class and for the ruling class.

The Big Dog's back

You normally would love that. Maybe you should'nt quit drinking.


Re: You normally would love that. Maybe you should'nt quit drinking.

^^^ "I was thinking more like a registered maroon." - Big Dog, 6/2/13 :)

"A former decorated undercover FBI agent, Mike German, explains how the national security state, in league with local law enforcement, is secretly targeting Americans for political views and activities perceived as a threat to the political establishment.

German concentrates on the constitutional abuses of fusion centers and cites the Missouri Information Analysis Center report targeting Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin as rightwing terrorists and the 2009 Virginia Terrorism Threat Assessment, produced by the Virginia Fusion Center, that singled out political groups as terrorist threats. Both reports were leaked to the media and covered extensively by Alex Jones and

German notes that local law enforcement is now used as a weapon against anti-establishment politicians, activists and political organizations –"

The political activists and watchdogs who fight to preserve the freedoms and rights for all Americans are now being targeted. How many of you support the governments actions against the watchdogs and political activists intimidation and oppressive actions? Phone records will only assure that more political activists and watchdogs will be identified and punished by the powerful elite who have taken over our government.

"Top senators defend NSA collection of Americans’ phone calls"

Democrat or Republican, they both are the powerful elite. They don't care about American freedoms and rights for the citizens.

Hope and change?


Pres. Obama:

"This is the most transparent administration in History."

"Every visitor that comes into the White House is now part of the record,”

(Except when the head of the IRS visits hundreds of times and then MAYBE the numbers aren't right.)

“Just about every law that we pass and rule that we implement we put online for everyone to see.”

"Just about,"? Except for those that we NEED to hide.

F'n liar.

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swiss cheese kat

Easy on the kool-aid pup.


Re: "Burp"

^^^“Another insightful comment by bonehead.” - the Big Dog’s back, 6/5/13 :)