Report: Feds seize Verizon phone records

Newspaper says NSA is collecting phone records of millions Americans under secret court order
Associated Press
Jun 5, 2013

The National Security Agency currently is collecting the telephone records of millions of U.S. customers of Verizon under a top secret court order, Britain's Guardian newspaper said Wednesday.

The order was granted by the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court on April 25 and was good until July 19, the newspaper said. The order requires Verizon, one of the nation's largest telecommunications companies, on an "ongoing, daily basis" to give the NSA information on all telephone calls in its systems, both within the U.S. and between the U.S. and other countries.

The newspaper said the document, a copy of which it had obtained, shows for the first time that under the Obama administration the communication records of millions of U.S. citizens were being collected indiscriminately and in bulk, regardless of whether they were suspected of any wrongdoing.

The Associated Press could not authenticate the order because documents from the court are classified.

Verizon spokesman Ed McFadden said Wednesday the company had no comment. The White House declined comment and referred questions to the NSA. The NSA had no immediate comment.

Under the terms of the order, the phone numbers of both parties on a call are handed over, as is location data, call duration, unique identifiers, and the time and duration of all calls. The contents of the conversation itself are not covered, The Guardian said.

The broad, unlimited nature of the records being handed over to the NSA is unusual. FISA court orders typically direct the production of records pertaining to a specific named target suspected of being an agent of a terrorist group or foreign state, or a finite set of individually named targets. NSA warrantless wiretapping during the George W. Bush administration after the 9/11 attacks was very controversial.

The FISA court order, signed by Judge Roger Vinson, compelled Verizon to produce to the NSA electronic copies of "all call detail records or telephony metadata created by Verizon for communications between the United States and abroad" or "wholly within the United States, including local telephone calls," The Guardian said.

The law on which the order explicitly relies is the "business records" provision of the USA Patriot Act.



The biggest obstacle to regaining our freedom is half the country loves fascism whenever their guy is wearing the iron glove. Which half alternates every 4-8 years.

swiss cheese kat

The big pup invited his pals over for a tea party, but kool-aid is on the menu.


OK, I know I am going to get comments about my point of view. I don't think it's right that the government is getting records of who I call and who calls me, but I have nothing to hide. Hope they enjoy seeing me call my kids, the doctor, etc. I just want to know who is getting paid to go thru all these calls, and how much is it costing the taxpayers?


Depending on if it's the CIA, NSA or the FBI around 20 billion, it's estimated the combined budget of the three is 60 billion.


Hey! Now your going to get audited by the IRS too : )


Politics matter not, one side or the other. Both sides are agreeing on one thing. They (the gov't and corporate) get the money and belittle the rest...


“Presidents are selected, not elected.” - FDR


This is the year 2013, Confago.


Sadly, not much has changed in the last 70 years with regard to our two party system. No one will get nominated for President that has not been vetted by the financial elites and multinational corporations. You may get to choose who you vote for, but you don't get to choose who is on the ballot.




Yea, Mrs. Clinton 'mighta' been more difficult to manipulate than the Puppet-in-Chief. :)

Towards the end of the primaries, she was trouncing Mr. Obama - the 'game clock' just ran out.


"You may get to choose who you vote for, but you don't get to choose who is on the ballot." ???

Frankly, your comments make you look dumb.You sound like Confago.


Re: "You sound..." ?

We're WRITING here; if you're hearing voices they're in YOUR HEAD. :)

^^^ "“He's gotten nuttier.” – 4shizzle, 6/5/13


Have another drink, Contessa.


^^^ “He's gotten nuttier.” – 4shizzle, 6/5/13 :)


I'm just calling it the way I see it 4shizzle, if you don't agree with me fine, but name calling does not make you look smart. I think the current 2 party system we have now is divisive for the nation as there are not term limits that allows governing to occur. I'd like your thoughts as to how anything can get done in DC.


Re: "How anything can get done in DC."

IMO: Starve the Beast.

No socialist has been able to name for me ONE program or agency which has EVER been eliminated BY EITHER PARTY!

Yet, the Sequester, which reduced spending by approx. 1% over TEN YEARS has the socialists squealing like pigs over severe "austerity."

IMO, we will either practice good fiscal policy OR we will have a fiscal catastrophe thrust upon us.

And in all likelihood, the later will be the result and it won’t be pretty.

The Big Dog's back

WPA, CCC, Defense board. How many more do you want me to name pooh?


Morphed into bigger and more expensive programs - not ended.

So you're a socialist?


Maybe I could have said it better? But that was a pretty dumb comment.

"You may get to choose who you vote for, but you don't get to choose who is on the ballot."
Of course not!!! You can't get everything YOU want. It's a process of elimination. All the presidential candidates can't be president, can they?!! Everyone of those candidates had people behind them who would have liked to see them win.
Did I really have to have to explain that?

What's going on in DC?
Tell the Republicans to stop screwing around and do thier job.


^^^ "That was a pretty dumb comment." :)


How is a party that wants to be in power screwing up the party in, talk about a really dumb comment. NO SURPRISE THOUGH :)


Yea, in the useful idiot's socialist mind it’s: Spend, spend, spend, borrow, borrow, borrow, tax, tax, tax and print, print, print our way to prosperity eh? :)

Unemployment is reaching post-War records in Europe - gotta LOVE that SOCIALISM.

The Big Dog's back

Repub's are in control of the "purse" strings.


4shizzle writes:

"Tell the Republicans to stop screwing around and do thier job."


We're trying to communicate with an illiterate socialist – NOT SURPRISED. :)


Do you agree that term limits for congressmen would help end the divisiveness that is prevalent in Washington? Instead of serving their own interests and worrying about the next election they would govern with their constituents interests in mind. My point about the ballot thing is that both Obama and Romney had the approval of financial elites and big business or they would not have been on the ballot. You and me are left to pick the 2 they deem worthy of being President.


"Do you agree that term limits for congressmen would help end the divisiveness that is prevalent in Washington?"
You'd still have Democrats and Republicans.

Running for president costs lots of money. Somebody has to pay for it.


I guess gridlock will rule the day, I personally believe term limits are the answer, but apparently no one else feels that way, oh well....I put it out there. Since I've switched to Independent, I'm willing to listen to anyone (left or right) for solutions to get governing done and stop this senseless partisan bickering.


"The country of Aljazeera has Sharia law." - 4shizzle, 05/29/2013

Is that near the "country" of Comedy Channel? :)


Have another drink, Contessa.