Video: Baden 'for good or bad'

Watch news conference: 'Why hasn't Officer Wilson been arrested?'
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Aug 19, 2014

Dr. Michael Baden during a news conference Monday said police and prosecutors will make a decision whether to charge anyone in the Aug. 9 killing of an unarmed black teen in Ferguson, Mo.

Watch Baden news conference

A woman asked Baden, who performed an autopsy on Sunday, about Michael Brown's injuries.

"I'm assuming he could have survived. Am I correct?" she asks.

"He could have survived. All of these gunshot wounds were survivable except for the one in the top of the head, that went through the brain," Baden replies.  

"That seems sad," she responds. "All of us here know what happened to Michael. Why hasn't Officer Wilson been arrested?" 

Baden replies, suggesting politics some times trumps science.

"Who gets arrested is a political, district attorney decision and not a forensic science decision, for good or for bad," he said. 

Read more: Gunned down in Ferguson, Mo.

Baden, a renowned pathologist who has worked with the New York state prison system as chief coroner for more than three decades, is often called in as a expert in high-profile cases.

Baden's determination that Sandusky County jail inmate Craig Burdine was the victim of a homicide at the jail in August 2007 was over-ruled in July by a grand jury hearing information from Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine's nearly year-long investigation launched six years after Burdine died. The grand jury did not return any criminal indictments. 

Burdine's family contends DeWine whitewashed evidence and helped cover up what happened to Craig Burdine at the jail. 

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Comments

jlsullivan50

He hasn't been arrested because there is no probable cause that he committed a crime. If he was acting in self defense, which some witnesses suggest, he is not guilty of a crime.

deertracker

What witness said he was acting in self defense?

KnuckleDragger

How appropriate they use a pic from PMSNBC. Funny how the register article completely leaves out one important statement by Baden that is reported in nearly every other article I have seen regarding Baden's autopsy. That the wounds were consistent with the officers story that Brown attacked him and had reached for his gun. Is this reporting news or trying to create news?

The Big Dog's back

Wow, you can tell that he was grabbing for a gun by an autopsy?

deertracker

Could you point me to that report that said his wounds were consistent with self defense or being attacked. The report I heard is that the wounds were either all frontal with the exception of two arm wounds that could have occurred while his back was turned. Also there were no powder burns on the body so the shots to the head were at least two feet away. The shot to the apex of his head with a downward trajectory was fatal. Logic time! The guy was 6'3" yet he was shot in the top of the head and it was the last shot fired. What does common sense and logic tell you? You are in the medical field. Enlighten us! You are the one trying to create news. Your focus was on MSNBC instead of what Dr. Baden was saying.

arnmcrmn

Common sense tells me the Brown refused to get on his knees AFTER he assaulted the officer in his car and when the officer went on foot to chase Brown and Brown stopped refusing to get on his knees (he was going to be arrested) he charged the officer and the officer fired and fired multiple times. Thats exactly what the autopsy report dictates as well but I see the SR forgot that part also.

The Big Dog's back

For you right wingers hating Law Enforcement until it comes to shooting a Black person, why are you willing to take LE's side?

arnmcrmn

off topic spin dog. Nice try though. Any more pointless rants?

deertracker

He has a point arn. This did not happen in Nevada where they pointed guns at the Feds.

deertracker

That's not common sense. You are assuming facts that have yet to be presented or determined. Try again! Where did the autopsy report say he charged the officer or refused to get on his knees?

Ctwhalers

What articles have you been reading? I heard there might be a video from someone showing that the officer is at fault. Yes ge did try and rob atore but witness accounts are not all the same. So who do you believe but videos show a different side of things. Cop blockbon facebook has been posting things you might find interesting and what is happening to the news reporters and the citizens from all of this.

Julian

The police have collected over a dozen witness statements that corroborated the officers story. That is being reported from a local news station in the Ferguson area.

deertracker

Link me to those reports!

The Big Dog's back

He can't link them because there aren't any.

deertracker

EXACTLY!

The Big Dog's back

That's not a link.

deertracker

Seriously Julian? LOL!

DirkDiggler

I don't know why you people either bother trying to debate with these racebaiters ! They only see or hear what they want to. I'm surprised you two have not contacted each other for a road trip to Ferguson to join in on the festivities !

deertracker

Shoo fly!

DirkDiggler

Baiter !

jlsullivan50

I'm afraid it wouldn't matter to you if you were linked, they would all be lieing, right? Any story other than the one you want to believe is wrong.

arnmcrmn

@ctwhalers. So if there was this video, don't you think the officer would have been arrested and this all put to rest by now. Bottom line, there is no such video.

Julian

“This one here looks like his head was bent downward,” he said, indicating the wound at the very top of Mr. Brown’s head. “It can be because he’s giving up, or because he’s charging forward at the officer.”

That excerpt was taken from a New York Times article that the SR linked to the previous autopsy story.

This is kind of a big deal, get the facts straight SR and please stop promoting false information.....

ilkyp

Another example of someone purchasing a product and not quite getting the results they thought they would. This Brown character was shot because he thought with his size he could intimidate and over-power an officer. Imagine yourself sprinting.... legs moving, arms pumping and head pointed down. You would be getting shot in the "front" of your arms and the top portion of head. It would also explain the shot going through the eye area and down into the top of the chest.

Quick google image search of two words: Sprinting & Surrender.

Most people when they surrender don't put their hands up and head down. Human nature wants the initial eye contact between parties to plead sympathy. You are not surrendering to your savior, you're surrendering to your "aggressor". Face up and palms out. Not the case here.

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The Big Dog's back

So you were there?

ilkyp

I think it's going to come down to a "more than likely" scenario. Unless there's video, no one's word is going to convince anyone. A bit of rational thinking would conclude that it's "more likely" that based on the presented scenarios and the autopsy results that Mr. Brown was charging the officer. The abrasions on his face are conducive to that of someone hitting the ground while in forward motion. Being on your knees and essentially executed is "not as likely" to cause his type of scrapes.

The guy was charging the officer, he was shot in motion and fell forward to the ground. It doesn't take a forensics expert to see the chain of events as described by more than just his fellow thug's story.

deertracker

This was murder. Period. Maybe the guy panicked or whatever but there is no reason for shooting the guy in the top of his head unless you intend to kill him. Face up and palms out? Really? Your hands are up which equals palms out and you are obviously facing the cop. This was a bad shoot. It just was!

ilkyp

So sayeth deertracker, so shall it be.

ladydye_5

In Dog's words, "so you were there?"

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