Local law enforcement reacts to shooting

Officials: Communication, training key factors
Andy Ouriel
Aug 19, 2014

ouriel@sanduskyregister.com

The massive divide created in a small Missouri community raises and rehashes serious questions pondered for generations:

Is racism in the U.S. still alive? And if so, will prejudice ever end?

Do police officers and other local law enforcers wield too much power?

How should people react in the aftermath of a national travesty? If they choose to protest, and peacefully stand up for civil rights, should they fear being attacked, arrested or even killed?

Such lingering questions won’t be answered anytime soon — maybe never.

But the death of Michael Brown — an unarmed, 18-year-old black man fatally shot by a white police officer more than a week ago — definitely evokes plenty of emotions, including from local law enforcers watching the chaos unfold in Ferguson, Mo.

The Register posed two questions about this issue to police chiefs and sheriffs serving in Erie, Huron, Ottawa and Sandusky counties:

1. What is your gut reaction to the violence, riots and fallout from Brown’s death?

2. What would you recommend be done in Ferguson at this point?

Among those responding: Ottawa County Sheriff Steve Levorchick, Norwalk police Chief Dave Light, Sandusky police Chief John Orzech and Erie County Sheriff Paul Sigsworth.

Among those not responding: Port Clinton police Chief Rob Hickman, Huron County Sheriff Dane Howard, Sandusky County Sheriff Kyle Overmyer and Fremont police Chief Tim Wiersma.

Light

1. I want to get all the facts first. But, certainly from what I did see, I would sure want to look at the amount of the training the officers have had. Any type of use of force — from hands-on to pepper spray to Tasers or anything with deadly force — you have to train and train and train, and then train some more.

2. They are going to need some outside intervention. Things have escalated to where it’s so out of control. You are going to need community members come out and sit down with the law enforcement community. You need a citizens review board to step in, be neutral, unbiased and sit down with people from both sides and try to analyze things from the beginning to the end to see what happened. You have to restore peace at this point and calm things down. It’s going to take several meetings, but you have to try to make sure this type of thing doesn’t happen again.

Levorchick

1. I’m saddened by it. This is not what our country is about.

2. That’s really difficult. I don’t know if I could tell you since I’m not there and am not in direct contact with the people who are there. It’s so easy to sit back and say what needs to be done. People have come (into Ferguson) but it hasn’t changed much. We don’t have all the information. We don’t have the answers. I can’t sit here and tell you what needs to be done.

Orzech

1. It’s a troubling situation for everyone. There has been a lot of violence and non-peaceful demonstrations that put a lot of lives and property at risk. We are getting bits and pieces of all the information, so we don’t know what’s happening. There have been so many discrepancies reported.

2. They need to get some sense of order restored, and they are going to have to have a very deep discussion on why this happened. I would be interested to see how the relationships and communication (between the community and police) were prior to this happening. This incident seems to have been a last-straw type of situation that has blossomed. There is going to have to be some soul-searching and some deep discussion on why things happened the way they did and where you go from here to restore peace in that community and throughout the region.

Sigsworth

1. Hopefully, calmer heads will prevail and justice will be served. The peace needs to be restored as quickly as possible. I hope that all sides can come together and bring peace back to that community.

2. Communication is a big issue. Communication is always a key in these types of situations between police, government leaders and the community. Hopefully, peace can be restored with no further bloodshed, and the healing process can begin, which will take a long, long time.

Comments

ilkyp

Just a bunch of white guys making too much sense.... they must be racists.

Restless1

They didn't say anything other than they don't know anymore than we do. What kind of answers did the SR expect? Waste of ink.

deertracker

Agreed!

AJ Oliver

Andy wrote, "Is racism in the U.S. still alive?" Does the sun rise in the east?
Stop the militarization of the police - when you go down that road, pretty soon they start acting like an occupying army. Tell Norwalk to get rid of that abominable "Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP)" piece of trash.
We know that community polciing works. Do it.

mimi's word

Community policing DOES NOT work just ask George Zimmerman...And as far as militaization of the police it started after 911. If people would just follow the laws and not feel it is there right to do whatever they want then there would be no need for such actions but the day you had to put instructions on the shampoo is the day stupid people won.

The Big Dog's back

It wuold have worked if zim did what he was supposed to do. CALL THE POLICE.

knowitall

I agree whole heartedly.

deertracker

Zimmerman is a free murderer. He was not a police and was told not to act like one. Whatever law Brown allegedly broke he still should have been afforded due process.

knowitall

Wasn't there a trial for Zimmerman? For OJ?

deertracker

Your point? There was also a trial for Robert Blake, Scott Peterson and Casey Anthony!

The Big Dog's back

Great points deer.

knowitall

My point is you call Zimmerman a free murderer. He was aquitted.

jlsullivan50

If he attacked a police officer and tried to get his gun as some witnesses say, he was taking his life in his own hands. If he did not and tried to surrender, I agree with you.

ladydye_5

Whatever law Brown broke he still should have listened to the cop and got out of the street when he was told.

Julian

At the same time, citizens have the right to confront possible criminals, pursue them reasonably, and make citizen arrests in certain circumstances.

Truth or Dare

Is Racism still alive? Yep! To claim otherwise is living in denial. Will it ever end? Yep, but I have an inkling it won't be in our lifetime.

Our local LE, anyone for that matter might want to take the time to view Meet the Press's Sunday, Aug. 17th. broadcast. It will shed light on the very long time of why's, especially in Ferguson regarding the communication and relationships between police, the community, the local government.

It has been reported there are people of all races, backgrounds that are coming from all over for all the right reasons to participate in this protest and peacefully so. There are also those coming and taking the opportunity to engage with the purpose of wanting to cause and escalate more violence. Reading the paper today, the autopsies done, realizing how many times this young man was shot and where, one word comes to mind. Overkill.

knowitall

Racism and any other form of prejudice will never end. We just need to manage it as best we can. Skinny people don't like fat people. "Normal" people shy away from disabled people. Rich people don't like poor people. All these are vice versa too. And the beat goes on! The human condition is weak. Some handle prejudices pretty good but far too many don't.

deertracker

More like roadkill!

pigeon farmer

Enforce the Posse Comitatus Act.

freespeech1

Until all the evidence is presented the media has no business reporting anything. Keep fueling the fire all in the name of selling papers. All this speculation is causing more harm than good.

knowitall

You are totally correct. Nobody on these blogs knows diddly about what really happened. It will take time to gather all the data before a conclusion can be presented. All of us here, myself included, are just blowhards at this point in time about this subject.

CommonsenseNow

Still trying to figure out what purpose this article served.

ladydye_5

Fueling the fire. Race baiting.

The Big Dog's back

Oh wow, another enlightening post from the gayeway pundit.

deertracker

Too funny! Nice try wrong guy!

freespeech1

making fun of gays puppy? Where's your tolerance?

Stonybaby

Light the man that wants to MILITARIZE his army / police force. Yea his opinion belongs here . Can't wait until the quality microscope of the Register is turned on him .

just observing

Racism is alive and well in America, just watch Al Sharpton for an example.

The Big Dog's back

Wow, you so smart. When's your 4th grade graduation?

deertracker

He has to graduate second grade first!

knowitall

Deertracker ...... You don't seem to care for Just observing.

deertracker

I don't like his comments! I am okay with all second graders.

knowitall

Lol

just observing

deer dong I understand your three years in second grade was the happiest time of you life.

knowitall

Just observing.....you don't seem to care for deertracker.

just observing

Not true, I enjoy banter with the intellectually challenged, it helps their limited development..

just observing

piddle did they let you bus tables at Local 913 last night, and did you drive a borrowed golf cart again? Is it true you gave fitzy a tour of the parking lots and took one for the team?

knowitall

What is your problem with 913?

AJ Oliver

Read Matt Taibbi's "Divide" for a really shocking look at how some big city police departments treat the poor and minorities, and all of this while the banksters steal tens of billions and walk. Two quick points: (1) Taibbi shows how Eric Holder's DOJ is derelict in its duty, and of course the Dems and Obama have to take responsibility for that, and (2) I've got "Divide" checked out of the library right now, but will return it in a few days. It really shocks the conscience.

Julie R.

" .......... and all this while the banksters steal tens of billions and walk."

LIKE.

deertracker

Some of us don't need a book to tell us how cops treat minorities.

knowitall

Pamphlet?

deertracker

We just need to be alive!

knowitall

Dramatic response.

meowmix

"Racism and any other form of prejudice will never end. We just need to manage it as best we can. Skinny people don't like fat people. "Normal" people shy away from disabled people. Rich people don't like poor people. All these are vice versa too. And the beat goes on! The human condition is weak. Some handle prejudices pretty good but far too many don't."

I just copied what knowitall typed because it is the absolute truth. Please, re-read this everyone. I listened to limgbag today and he was absolutely giddy over this situation because of the turmoil it has caused. I read so much hatred and dislike. I can say that if this was some white kid that ripped off a box of cigars, regardless if he shoved the store owner or not, that would have his life cut short by 6 f-ing bullets there would be total hell to pay by the white community--especially if the cop that shot him was a black man!!! I'd be willing to guess that most people have shoplifted something in their lives, stolen something, that they feel bad about today for doing. I stole a pack of dentyne gum when I was 5 that still haunts me to this day! Does a life of an 18 year old kid justify his stealing a box of cigars? How outraged as a parent would you be if this was your child????

The Big Dog's back

Agreed.

deertracker

Agreed here too!

thinkagain

Just keep beating that racist drum and spewing horse pucky.

knowitall

I agree. Whoever wrote that original post sure is smart. Lol

totallyamazed

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I love the unbiased headline: "Gunned down in Ferguson, Mo."

Let me see, they have a dozen or so witnesses that said the victim rushed the officer after being told to halt. I {believe} the officers gun was drawn when he was rushed, so bodily harm is intended.

Should two head shots been taken? I don't believe that would have been my choice of targets but what I do know is that headlines like "Gunned down in Ferguson, Mo." is sensationalism.
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The Big Dog's back

Wow. Now it's up to dozen witnesses. Really? Tomorrow it will be the State of Missouri.

totallyamazed

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Really
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getit right be4...

BREAKING REPORT: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/...

Just walking down the road.

The Big Dog's back

The gayeway pundit has none, nada, zilch credibility.

deertracker

....even Faux news won't confirm that bs story!

coasterfan

Once you attempt to grab a policeman's gun, there is one likely outcome: an unarmed person is going to get shot. At that point, race doesn't matter to either party in the struggle.

Michael Brown was a very large, imposing figure. I think the cop responded the same as any of us would have done when suddenly realizing they were in a fight for their life.

However, if reports that Michael was shot 6 times are true, then we have a 2nd problem to address, but I'm not sure that changes the events that caused the first shot. Policemen don't typically hop out of their car and say "I think I'll shoot someone now".

To me, the holdup at the store and bullying of the store owner 10 minutes before he was shot DOES matter: it shows what kind of person he is: a person who doesn't follow the rules. The policeman, on the other hand, has no criminal record. So, until the facts come out, I'm going to give the policeman the benefit of the doubt. I truly can see both sides on this one...

getit right be4...

" However, if reports that Michael was shot 6 times are true, then we have a 2nd problem to address, "

I agree was the officer carrying a revolver? Why only 6 shots.

Kochez

Bill Cosby said it all when he said until you get the colored kids a pair of parents that live together and teach their kids morals; you will never get rid axx holes like the ones burning property in Ferfuson. I moved from Sandusky to the south to get away from the high incidence of black people committing the vast majority of crimes. I willNEVER come back to that stupid mistake on the lake

deertracker

How did that work out for his son or lovechild?

topcop1991

It is interesting that certain leaders of the Black race always jump to conclusions prior to the facts being known. Instead of instigating violence, they should get the facts and work with the community to heal and find ways that nothing ever happens like this again! While I have long felt that Dr.King was a great leader and man of peace, I find the opposite of the men who call themselves Reverend and call for violence!

just observing

As more information is released, the suspect behavior on video at the convenience store robbery, his assault on the officer in the cruiser causing major eye injury to the officer, attempting to wrestle the officers gun away from him, and the suspect charging the officer all now confirmed by independent witnesess in the neighborhood. My only concern of the officer's actions, why did it take 6 rounds to cause the fatal injury, proper police training is when you are justified in firing make it a fatal shot, an injured, or wounded suspect can still cause you or others injury or death. The eye injury and extreme stress could have caused the officer to fire multiple shots before the suspect was neutralized. Its not racism, it's stopping a dangerous, out of control physically large suspect that had no regard for others as his violent behavior demonstrated.

GoBigLex2001

Why not have a picture of Chief Light and not one when he was Captain??..lol.

oheaglefl

I can tell you about 99% of the people that are rioting in Missouri don't even know this Brown kid, yet they feel looting and burning businesses will get them anywhere. The only thing it's getting them is free stuff they can steal without getting caught. They could give a rat's a$$ about Brown. As far as Sharpton and Jackson goes, both are race baiters and you can't tell me different.

The Big Dog's back

Race baiters? Because they talk about injustices? Should nobody talk about and maybe it will go away?

Julian

We can all see how a lot of people are talking down there

oheaglefl

No maybe it's just because they like to stay in the limelight and keep their names on the news, they like to keep things stirred up. I can guarantee that they could care less about that kid getting shot. Getting their fame and fortune off the death of black people. Everyday black kids, white kids and others get killed and you hear nothing about them, except when there is something going on that the government needs to hide, what about the reporter that got beheaded, but then guess that is not important to the President. Try reading the post from a prior poster of all the whites killed by black males and the President didn't even hear about them. Hmmmmmm, seems he only cares about you if your black. He is the President of the United States and this country is a wide diverse nationality country, so why is he only choosing who to help and who not. He is supposed to look out for all, not just a few. Thinking maybe he's racist to.

WhatTheHeck

Glad to see that Julie R. has submitted a stupid comment again.