Police ID officer, allege teen robbed store

Officer, who shot 18-year-old Michael Brown, has worked in suburban St. Louis for six years and had no complaints filed against him
Associated Press
Aug 15, 2014

 

Police on Friday identified the officer who fatally shot an unarmed black teenager and released documents alleging the young man had been suspected of stealing a $48.99 box of cigars from a convenience store in a "strong-arm" robbery shortly before he was killed.

Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer did not know the teen was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting and stopped Michael Brown and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic."

Darren Wilson, 28, has been an officer in suburban St. Louis for six years and had no complaints filed against him, Jackson said.

Brown's relatives immediately questioned whether the officer really believed Brown was a suspect and said no robbery would justify shooting the teen after he put his hands up.

The family's attorney, Benjamin Crump, said Brown's parents were blindsided by the allegations.

"It's bad enough they assassinated him, and now they're trying to assassinate his character," Crump said.

An attorney for the teen who was with Brown on the day of the shooting said his client has acknowledged to investigators that Brown took cigars from the store.

The police chief described Wilson as "a gentle, quiet man" who had been "an excellent officer." He has been on the Ferguson force for four years. Prior to that, he patrolled in the neighboring community of Jennings, Jackson said.

Wilson, who was placed on administrative after the Aug. 9 shooting, "never intended for any of this to happen," Jackson said.

Police reports released Friday under an open-records request showed that at 11:51 a.m. on the day of the shooting, authorities received a 911 call reporting a robbery at the Ferguson Market. An unidentified officer was dispatched to the store, arriving within three minutes. The officer interviewed an employee and customer, who gave a description of a man who stole the cigars and walked off with another man toward a QuikTrip store.

Descriptions of the suspect were broadcast over the police radio. The officer did not find the suspects either on the street or at the Quik Trip, the reports said.

The robber took a box of Swisher Sweets Cigars valued at $48.99. The suspects were identified as 18-year-old Michael Brown and 22-year-old Dorian Johnson, according to the reports.

Separately, Wilson had been responding to a nearby call involving a sick 2-month child from 11:48 am until noon, when he left that place. A minute later, he encountered Michael Brown walking down Canfield Drive. The documents contained no description of what happened between Brown and Wilson.

Crump noted that police did not release a photo of the officer but released images from the store's security video that they say show Brown grabbing a man inside the store. Crump said he had not seen the photos.

Police "are choosing to disseminate information that is very strategic to try to help them justify the execution-style" killing, said Crump, who also represented the family of Trayvon Martin, the teenager fatally shot by a Florida neighborhood watch organizer who was later acquitted of murder.

The Aug. 9 video appears to show a man wearing a ball cap, shorts and white T-shirt grabbing a much shorter man by his shirt near the store's door. A police report alleges that Brown grabbed the man who had come from behind the store counter and "forcefully pushed him back" into a display rack.

Johnson, Brown's friend, told investigators that Brown "did take cigarillos," his attorney, Freeman Bosley, told MSNBC. Bosley said he was aware of video but had not seen it.

Police have determined that Johnson was not involved in the robbery and will not seek charges against him, Jackson said.

Brown's uncle, Bernard Ewing, questioned whether Wilson really believed Brown was a suspect. He referred to Johnson's account that the officer's only command to the two young men was to get out of the street.

"If he's a robbery suspect, they would have had the lights on," Ewing said. "If you rob somebody, you would tell them, 'Get on the ground' or something, not, 'Get off the sidewalk.'"

A robbery "still doesn't justify shooting him when he puts his hands up," he added. "You still don't shoot him in the face."

Brown's death ignited four days of clashes with furious protesters. The tension eased Thursday after the governor turned oversight of the protests over to the Missouri Highway Patrol. Within hours, the mood on the street lighted, with state troopers walking side-by-side with peaceful protesters and no hint of violence. Gone were the police in riot gear and armored vehicles, pointing assault rifles at protesters and firing tear gas into crowds.

But Friday's announcement by the police chief was met with disbelief and anger by several dozen Ferguson residents who also attended the news conference, which was hastily held at a gas station burned during a night of looting earlier in the week.

"He stopped the wrong one, bottom line," yelled Tatinisha Wheeler, a nurse's aide at the news conference.

A couple of dozen protesters began marching, chanting "Hands up, don't shoot" and "What do we want? Justice! When do we want it? Now!"

Police have said Brown was shot after an officer encountered him and another man on the street during a routine patrol. They say one of the men pushed the officer into his squad car, then physically assaulted him in the vehicle and struggled with the officer over the officer's weapon. At least one shot was fired inside the car before the struggle spilled onto the street, where Brown was shot multiple times, according to police.

Dorian Johnson has told reporters a different story. He said an officer ordered him and Brown onto the sidewalk, then grabbed his friend's neck and tried to pull him into the car before brandishing his weapon and firing. He said Brown started to run and the officer pursued him, firing multiple times.

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BULLISDEEP
getit right be4...

Trayvon Martin was not killed for wearing a hoodie.

Michael Brown was not shot for walking down the street.

The Big Dog's back

Why was Michael Brown shot and killed? Since you were at Trayvon Martin's murder, give us the video of why he was killed.

Donegan

You are a racist.

GoBigLex2001

Brown was shot and killed after he beat the officer nearly unconscious and tried to disarm him.

coasterfan

I'm not sure if this is a racial issue. Regardless of what led up to the incident, if you try to grab/take away a policeman's gun, should you be surprised when you get shot? Until the full story comes out, all we can do is speculate.

SamAdams

Exactly! COULD Brown have been shot and killed for the "crime" of "walking while black?" Maybe. COULD Brown have been shot and killed because he tried to steal a cop's gun? Maybe. Although it's looking more and more like the latter is the case -- Brown, it now comes out, was a gang member AND apparently a "strong-arm" robber -- the investigation remains ongoing. Condemning EITHER Brown or the police officer at this point isn't just speculation. It's racist no matter which side you take in the absence of more of the facts!

CommonsenseNow

@Ms. Adams - I think we don't need to misuse the word "racist." It used to be that a man who acted violently, without cause, to harm and harass another man simply because he was black, was racist. The true meaning of that word used to mean qualifying the worth of a man's soul based on the color of his skin. Misusing the word abuses all the true victims of it. People speculate. I hardly believe that it is due to "racism." It is not a stretch to see the situation from either side. I hate to see the word "racist" misused by either side, because the word actually meant something once.

SamAdams

I have no argument with what you say. The sad fact is, however, that charges of racism are used willy nilly these days for anything and everything. At this time, the charge (bolstered by the appearance in Ferguson by such as Jesse Jackson and the NAACP) is "racism" against one police officer in specific and the Ferguson police department in general. The only response, it seems, is to suggest that such knee-jerk conclusions on EITHER side, and which are based largely if not entirely on skin color, are comparably as racist.

deertracker

Sam, the NAACP, Rev. Al or Jackson don't just show up. They are contacted and asked to help. Why make it seem like they are making the situation worse when they are not? Black communities all over this country have major issues with police. Is every community lying? There is no knee jerk conclusion. This entire incident was bound to happen sooner or later. It will continue to get worse.

deertracker

@Common
Exactly. I don't care if this guy was a serial killer. When he was killed he was surrendering. Even if it is proven he tried to take the officer's gun, that is not when he was killed. He was feet away with his hands UP!! UNARMED! Those are FACTS that are not in dispute. The military style response can't be disputed. What is up here? This did not happen in Nevada.

doglegright

Those are facts HUH!!!

There are at least 10 witnesses that say Micheal Brown bullrushed the cop and a bystander admitted it on a cellphone video.

Facts??? Hardly!!

You must be Sharpton's right hand money henchman.

deertracker

Enlighten us getit right!

arnmcrmn

Not the innocent kid just minding his business getting ready to go to college now is he.

The Big Dog's back

So because he took something, like no white kids have ever done this, he deserved to be killed?

getit right be4...

You are coming off a bit to defensive.

Where did he say no white kids take things that don't belong to them? Where did he say he deserved to die for it?

The Big Dog's back

So you agree he should not have been shot.

DirkDiggler

That's it...flip it over and play the race card ! White kids never do this stuff ? Really ? You have issue's bro ! White or black...you steal you're a thief ! White or black...you attack a cop and try to take his weapon he has every right to use lethal force ! The end !

B0ttom Line

Why do you never care the thousands of times a black kills another black?

CommonsenseNow

@BigDog - you bring up a valid point. Too bad that your constant name-calling of people who disagree with your points has made it less valid to some. I'm not sure what happened. But the question of whether black profiling - subconscious or not - deserves an answer. Maybe it did. Maybe it didn't. But the question needs to be asked nonetheless.

The Big Dog's back

I'm also saying that just because it happening to Black kids now doesn't mean white won't be targeted next. Theses cops, a lot of them Iraq war veterans, are to eager to pull the trigger.
I remember in the 80's when some companies were making employees take concessions, people at other companies thought it would never affect them. Wrong. Now it's to late. Just like this, it will be to late if people wait until it affects them.

deertracker

Dog is right. If you think this can't or won't happen to white kids you are plainly naïve. Even the whites are alarmed at the military style response. Look for the white guy dressed in his Marine uniform. He makes great sense. This is just crazy to me.

SamAdams

Dog is at least partially right (though I suspect for the wrong reasons), and so are you. The militarization of the police is something EVERY American should fear, not just hyphenated Americans!

knowitall

Our country seems to glorify violence. Deer...your point on military uniform on non military people. I shoot at the rifle matches at Camp Perry. It amazes me the number of wannabes that come dressed in their camo outfits. I wear regular clothes. It is target practice for heavens sake!
Then there is the right to bear arms groups. I obviously am ok with most of that but when groups are ok with assault rifles, Saturday night specials, etc........that is where the line should be drawn.
Our country is the largest supplier of arms to other countries. As a percentage of GDP....we are way at the top. Look at ISIS using our weapons against us.

doglegright

He deserves to be killed if he keeps charging a policeman after being asked to stop and after tussling with him in his police car and after taunting the police man AND after being high on marijuana....

just observing

Don't attempt facts and logic with piddle pup, he is your typical far left loon political-union hack that never worked an honest day in his life. Piddle doesn't the floors need mopped at 913?

coasterfan

Always makes me chuckle when rightwing folks accuse us lefties of lacking facts/logic. Doesn't that describe their Mother Ship (Fox News) perfectly?

wasthere

When Fox News show actual footage of your president caught in a lie......Is that photoshopped? I'm happy that you are just a music teacher and don't teach our children anything of meaning.

knowitall

Interesting how FOX virtually never harasses a republican. Are they all angels?

William Jeffers...

Based on his "strong-arm robbery" video, this kid is a thief, a punk and was either going to be killed or kill someone else in the next 3 years. Nothing to do with race, everything to do with actions and character.

Donegan

Listen to dog and the rest of the big government stooges complain about the militarized police dept and think about the definition of hypocrisy.
Government = force. welcome to reality. He was a citizen shot down in the street because the government can get away with killing citizens. Kelley Thomas was killed where was the outrage. Black white whats the difference? My bad I am asking a bunch of racist who do not care that their rights are being encroached upon till Al Sharpton opens his trap.

CommonsenseNow

Right on about government = force. "He was a citizen shot down in the street because the government can get away with killing citizens." That's about it. How about the poor kid who got shot at Walmart for just playing with a bb gun? Cops are WAY TOO QUICK to react with their guns. When someone kills a cop, it's all over the news. However, when a cop kills someone else, it is relegated to the second page. Since 9/11, about 5,000 Americans have been killed by U.S. police officers, which is almost equivalent to the number of U.S. soldiers who have been killed in the line of duty in Iraq. http://www.mintpressnews.com/us-...

knowitall

Your president Cheney, I mean Bush, has those Iraq War lives on his shoulders. Should never have had shock and awe. Unjustified war because they are war mongers. WMDs my buttocks.

The Big Dog's back

done again, these are local cops, not "Big Gov".

YoMamma

What about all the black kids in Chicago getting killed? Where is the outrage? Oh wait, there are getting killed by other blacks, so that's OK!

B0ttom Line

Exactly. They don't give a s#@% when it's blacks killing blacks. Like it usually is. This is nothing but a pathetic excuse to play the race card, create violence and get free stuff

The Big Dog's back

So what do you 2 right wingnuts propose we do in Chicago?

sugar

Looks like this outrage was another FAIL.

DirkDiggler

The plot thickens....Too bad he never got to enjoy those Swisher sweets ! Deercracker if you sleep with big dogs you're gonna get fleas !

deertracker

The officer that killed him was unaware of the store incident so that incident is irrelevant to the killing of the guy. Even if he did know, once you put your hands up you are arrested not killed.

What really bothers me is the military-like response to the PEACEFUL protesters. When the militia group pointed loaded weapons at the Feds on the Bundy ranch, the militia men were practically praised when Bundy was clearly in the wrong. Why the different reaction? If the kid stole some cigars and had been shot as a result this would have all ended differently but that's not the case.

Donegan

To tell the truth I am outraged at this incident. Not because it was a black kid getting shot or because Al Sharpton and the race baiters told me to be. I am out raged that the police state that the left has worked so hard to build is not comfortable shooting citizens in the middle of the street. I am out raged that people would pick sides about this, The guy was unarmed even if he was a thief and stole cigars. The police should use better sense than this and be held to a higher standard. If someone punched me in my own house and I shot them, black or white I would be held for murder because the scum was unarmed.
Stop the police state and those like dog that advocate for the death of citizens without due process. You know it Dog,Coaster and Jazz if Obama would have blessed this killing you would have drank a beer to this kids demise.

coasterfan

You are "out raged"? As opposed to "in raged"?

Nah, I would never celebrate someone else's death. You need to look to the Republican Party for someone who would "bless a killing", since they are always the ones who get us INTO wars, and vote against common sense gun control. If it makes you feel better, I'm not in favor of a police state or police overreach, either.

Also, it should be "have drunk", not "have drank". I encourage you take some grammar lessons, and while you're at it, learn how/when to use punctuation.

Donegan

Leave it to you to attack grammar. Please just admit if Obama wanted to kill a 16 year old you would be all for it. Lord knows you already do quit arguing and just say you like the police being able to kill citizens without trial.
You obviously are in favor of a police state or you would NOT be in favor of either of the parties. Just admit it to make your god happy.

Donegan

Come on Coaster if your god killed a 16 year old citizen with a drone in the middle of the street you would support the murderer because you love him.

deertracker

Dummy you are comparing apples to oranges and let's leave Obama out of this. The 16 yr. old you are defending was being groomed to hate America. The fact that he was a U.S. citizen is moot because of that alone. 16 year olds do grow up ya know.

People on here freaked out when NPD acquired a piece of military equipment but now all I hear is crickets!

The Big Dog's back

So done again, you're more concerned about someone who put himself in a war zone than you are about kids on the street in America. You right wingnut loon.

Donegan

I am concerned about citizens losing their rights and being shot in the streets. It comes in increments. You Ok the killing of citizens in foreign country's considered war zones without due process. The government has already deemed the US a war zone and has hinted at their constitutional rights of shooting you in the streets. Guess who will end up doing it? Not the military, It will be a excuse for the local police to pop a kid that "Look" out of place.
So Dog next time you want to complain about police brutality it is people like you who advocate for it.

The Big Dog's back

LOCAL POLICE, not "Big Gov".

Donegan

You do realize the Federal governments sole purpose is to protect citizens rights against state overreach? The Feds will allow it because it supports the police state they want to have when they take away your freebies and social programs and all you morons hit the streets.
YOU are one of those that want to give up your rights voluntarily so do not act all concerned about people getting shot in the streets YOU want this remember?

The Big Dog's back

Whatever loon.

Donegan

You are a perfect example why this country is failing. just another Moron cheering for those who take their rights away. A "Useful idiot"

CommonsenseNow

@Donegan - I agree about this is NOT a left or right issue. What is left or right anyway besides a tribal mentality where everyone just beats up on everyone else because their leaders painted the other side to be evil? This issue is first and foremast about the police state. Good for you that you can see the central issue here. This is as bad as the kid who got shot at Walmart for the bb gun. I still think it was because he was black and fit a "profile". The man who called 911 in that case saw a black kid with a gun. The police (who wanted to be heroes and were programmed for the very few mass shootings we've had) were WAY TOO QUICK to shoot that child down.

SamAdams

Whatever else you're saying, I have to take issue with you calling Brown a "child." He wasn't. He was old enough to vote, old enough to sign a contract, old enough to join the military, old enough to marry, and old enough to legally buy a firearm.

I'm accusing you personally of nothing here, but I'd also point out to those reading that calling 18 and 19 year-olds "children" is the precise technique used by anti-gun groups when they talk about all of the "children" killed by gunfire. The numbers are a whole lot bigger when you pretend young adults are "children!"

The Big Dog's back

Who called him a child?

SamAdams

Do you actually read the comments, Dog, before you start typing? Try reading the comment to which I was responding.

The Big Dog's back

I saw kid, I didn't see child. Help me out.

SamAdams

Last sentence of CommonsenseNow's comment.

knowitall

It is a tough situation that cops are put in these days. The decision making that has to go on in an officers mind in a split second has to be tough. I do not envy their jobs. The disrespect that many in society have for law enforcement is sad. Can law enforcement officers abuse their powers.....yes. Just look at PIB. That type of attitude and behavior needs to be stopped whenever it's ugly head arises. On the flip side, respect for laws and law enforcement needs to be nurtured whenever and wherever possible.

CommonsenseNow

@knowitall - I'm sorry. I don't respect a militarized police force. I don't respect the constant harassment of police upon the general citizenry. I don't respect how they target groups of people. I don't respect how callous they are and how they think they are above people who find themselves in compromising positions. I don't respect how they target "drunk drivers" by pulling over hundreds of Americans just out to enjoy their day when the Traffic Safety board says texting while driving is SIX TIMES more dangerous than drunk driving. Yeah, they keep law and order I guess, but at what cost? Their abuses, general attitude, and overreach are inexcusable. http://www.policestateusa.com/

deertracker

Agreed!

SamAdams

Agreed here, too.

knowitall

So, you think it is a militarized police force? I don't think so. Some individuals I am sure like the role a little too much.....but a militarized police force seems a little dramatic.
Get the drunks off the road.
And get the texters off the road. Easier to find a drunk than it is a texter. Not sure how this could be enforced.
Abuses, overreach and general belligerent attitude are inexcusable when it happens. I am guessing it doesn't happen too often.....unless you are on PIB.

KURTje

Coasterfan is right. Wait till all facts are presented.

Donegan

Coasterfan does not care about facts if his god tells him not to care. That is the hypocrisy here. This kid was killed in a overreach of police power. If Obama said it was fine Coaster would drop it like a bad egg. The fact still remains a kid was killed. A lot like a 16 year old colorado citizen that was murdered by the government with a f***ing drone.

SamAdams

Okay, maybe Brown was killed in an "overreach of police power." If you've read even a few of my comments on these boards, you already know how I feel about government overreach no matter who -- or what color -- the victim(s)!

But let's speculate the other direction for a moment. What if the evidence shows that the OTHER side is right, and that Brown really did get into a physical alteration with a police officer and try to steal his gun? Like Coasterfan noted above, should you be surprised if you get shot under THOSE circumstances? And again, given that you're attempting to take a police officer's weapon from him, do you really think that you'd be immune from getting shot if you were some color other than black?

SamAdams

What's going on in Ferguson right now is a real shame, and the worst of it is that the blowback will go right in the face of those who are pretending this is about race.

The legitimate protesters -- the ones who peacefully march, the ones holding peaceful vigils, the ones who are demanding WITHOUT violence that the police be held accountable and answer their questions -- have every right to do what they're doing. Whatever the results of the investigation, I support them.

What I don't and won't condone are those who AREN'T peaceful and who are using Brown's death as an excuse to loot, burn, attack, and destroy. That the vast majority of them appear to be black only feeds into a racist mindset and race-based fears. I suspect that group really doesn't care what other black people, or lots of white people, think of them. But it's more than a little unfortunate that a host of innocent black men and women who are grieving and who want answers are going to be lumped into the same group purely by virtue of skin color and proximity!

deertracker

Agreed!

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The Hero Zone

Agreed as well.

B0ttom Line

If more blacks spoke the truth like this guy we'd have no problems

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2sL...

deertracker

Lots of Blacks do speak that same language you just choose to focus on the bad ones. That is the problem. Lots of Blacks have called for calm, no violence and some have even stopped looters and protected businesses. You choose to ignore that. Why? It is also being reported that most of the looters are from outside Ferguson.

knowitall

The damn press sensationalizes most situations. I agree with ya deertracker. Now, this is a bad situation. Very newsworthy, we just don't get the whole story very often.

Julie R.

After seeing the video of the strong-arm robbery and the size of Brown, I'm beginning to think that the officer really was physically assaulted before the shooting. Hard to believe a cop is just going to get out of his car and start shooting at people just for walking in the street. This is pathetic all the way around. I sure would hate to be in that cop's shoes right now.

DirkDiggler

Seems your meds are working today ! Yeh you ! First comment I have seen you make without commenting on scumbag attorney's, insurance agents and rent-a-judges. You're making progress, stay the course and keep wearing that same hat !

Julie R.

Don't want to disappoint you, sweetheart, so .....

Attorneys ARE scumbags. That crook Huron insurance agent was a scumbag, too. I noticed he no longer works for that company. Did he get fired? Same with that old bat from the Huron bank. I heard through the grapevine she was told to retire or she was going to be fired, too. Your corrupt courts might have helped them get away with their dirty crimes against my elderly mother at the end of her life, but it looks like they couldn't save their reputations. Maybe next time they'll be smarter --- won't be so eager to go along with attorneys.

Julie R.

Hey DirkDiggler, I noticed when the clerk of court's finally got records online that prior to the flat-out crimes committed on my elderly mother by her Huron attorneys only months before her death, one of her attorneys had two separate lawsuits filed against him and both pertained to probate estates. Both also were dismissed by that joke judge Maschari with no reason given. (gee, wonder if those people were wearing tin-foil hats, too)

SamAdams

Jeez, Dirk, you just HAD to say something...

Julie R.

Right. Every time the Huronite says something, I tell more & more. I'll bet even Maximal Properties LLC, who obtained fraudulently transferred property at a court-ordered "pretend" sheriff sale, hates my guts. (chuckle-chuckle)

B0ttom Line

But blacks immediately jump to conclusions that they WANT to be true so they can scream racism and wrongly accuse police of overstepping their bounds. They don't care to wait for facts. The usual liberal, racist idiots are on here right away proclaiming how there's video that proves their side if the story. Funny how we're all still waiting.

Despite what the media portrays, white people have been killed by cops before too. I don't recall whites starting mass riots and looting for no reason.

deertracker

We are still waiting for ALL the facts not just those that make one side or the other look bad. The racism that exists did not start last week. Address that!

deertracker

I disagree Julie. I believe the kid that was with Brown. The officer did not handle things well and the response to the peaceful protesters was awful. Soldiers sent to Iraq were less armed and had less body armor. This should alarm ALL Americans!

Julie R.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what really happened. I just don't understand why a cop would get out of a car and start shooting for no reason at all, but then after that despicable Zimmerman got out of flat-out murder of that Martin kid, who knows?

I

deer, as you and all your buddies stated when the government was tapping your phones and reading your e-mails, "I don't mind, I've got nothing to hide", you shouldn't worry about the police for the same reason!

deertracker

Apples and oranges. There is a big difference between firing tear gas and eaves dropping!

Donegan

Really? They are both constitutional rights being violated. I wonder if they shot you and Obama ordered the hit would you be OK with it?

The Big Dog's back

You loon.

Donegan

Cannot argue against it huh?

deertracker

It's a dumb argument. I will never defend terrorists.

Donegan

16 year old kid was not a terrorist. Whose to say you aren't one? Thats all the reasoning they need without due process.
Protecting a admin who is taking your rights away shows the mentality of you people. You are defending a terrorist, One that likes to kill 16 year olds without due process.
https://www.aclu.org/national-se...

deertracker

I say I am not one nor do I hang out with terrorists. The 16 year old was collateral damage not the target. Birds of a feather................

Donegan

Oh so "Collateral damage" is a good enough excuse for your government killing citizens? Birds of a feather flock together, Like Obama was with Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn?
Funny how your god that ordered the strikes killing 16 year old American citizen DID hang out with terrorist. You don't hang with terrorist, You just vote for them.

deertracker

You support terrorists kids killing Americans! Wow! You sound like Palin.

Donegan

No your god does, He is the one who suspended the law against giving aid to those using child fighters. http://washingtonexaminer.com/ob...
Wanna try again. The kid was a 16 year old citizen that was murdered by your god quit defending him and just admit it. (The white house already did you moron)
You sound like a typical libtard getting cornered and trying to label, call names and deflect the discussion.

arnmcrmn

Especially a cop that has no record of anything wrong (correct me if that is wrong).

You have to take Browns robbery into consideration based purely on the fact that he stole and then shoved the store clerk into a rack when confronted.....like the store clerk was doing something wrong by attempting to stop him. When confronted by an officer to get off the street, was the officer met in the same manner as the store clerk? According to the officer and a key witness he was. You assault a cop, chances are you are going to get shot and hopefully you survive.

deertracker

The robbery is irrelevant because the cop had no knowledge of it. When your hands are up in the air you are handcuffed not killed. The officer's version is yet to be heard and you are assuming way too much only for the purposes of pushing your agenda. You don't go from 0 to murder with a spotless record. We all know cops take care of each other.

No witness has said they saw an assault or him trying to take the officer's gun! Stop making stuff up!

queenjhb

everyone that is 6'4" 300 lbs. shoves a cop back into his cruiser, then tries to get his weapon will more than likely get shot anywhere.

deertracker

He was surrendering so his size is irrelevant. You do know what surrender means don't you!?

Donegan

From some reports he was charging the cop. If those reports are true that could be considered NOT surrendering that would be considered a hostile maneuver.
We will see during the investigation what the facts are speculating on what happened does nothing. The fact is the cop should not have shot a kid in the street and killed him. That's a over reach, Just how much of a over reach has yet to be seen. (If the kid did try to bum rush the cop, blowing out his knees would have stopped him without his death.)

Please

This is the result of trying to take a cops gun off of him. Not robbing a store, not walking in the street, not being black......but trying to take a cops gun=getting shot....its that simple. Some people keep looking past the point he tried to take his gun!

deertracker

There is no proof he attempted to take the officer's gun. Explain how he could have done that with the cop sitting in the car! It just could not have happened that way.

arnmcrmn

How about we just let the facts come out before any more articles or comments are made. Its all speculation at this point.

deertracker

Fact: He is dead!
Fact: He was UNARMED!

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thinkagain

Fact: A punk thug fought the law and the law won.
Fact: If Obama had a son; he’d be out robbing liquor stores too...

deertracker

What is your son robbing?

Please

Deer, the report says he pushed the cop in the car. He could have pushed him in the car as the cop was exiting. Then just reach in as the door is open for his gun pretty simple if the door is still open as he was pushed into his car. And you "arn" you are correct...we should wait for the facts, but it doesn't seem like the other side is waiting (riots, death threats etc). I am going by what a report said and the other side is going by the thug friend that was with him as they robbed a store. Other witnesses say the cop just got out of the car and started shooting....ok if you want to believe that one!

deertracker

That is only one version. Three versions say the cop blocked their ability to proceed and slammed the door into them. It's just a matter of who you believe but YOU still have to apply logic. The facts not in dispute are that he was killed from a distance with his hands up!!!!!!

The Big Dog's back

Just like the Martin case, we don't have Mr. Brown's testimony because he is dead. Sure surprises me some of you people take the cop's story as Gospel. Well, actually no it doesn't surprise me.

Donegan

In a civil society Mob justice is not a good thing. Then again no one ever mistook you people for being civil.
The investigation is not even back yet and you already have the cop being guilty and want blood. Let the system work and quit being a freakin animal.

deertracker

Where was the mob justice? That used to happen to Blacks back in the day yet we were considered civilized. All they had to do was look at a white woman!

Donegan

So you are justifying mob violence today because it happened in the past? You're Another example of why this country is going to hell.

deertracker

Again, where is this mob justice?

Donegan

So far it has been mob violence. There has been no what people are referring to as "Mob justice" because the officer has been hidden. Other wise you do realize what would happen?
What would you call rioting and burning down stores other than Mob violence?

deertracker

There was looting not rioting!

Donegan

It is funny you are trying to label a violent, looting, destructive mob as not a riot.
RIOT [rahy-uh t] Synonyms Examples Word Origin noun
1.a noisy, violent public disorder caused by a group or crowd of persons, as by a crowd protesting against another group, a government policy, etc., in the streets.
2.Law. a disturbance of the public peace by three or more persons acting together in a disrupting and tumultuous manner in carrying out their private purposes.
3.violent or wild disorder or confusion.
4.a brilliant display:
a riot of color.
5.something or someone hilariously funny:
You were a riot at the party.
6.unrestrained revelry.
7.an unbridled outbreak, as of emotions, passions, etc.
8.Archaic. loose, wanton living; profligacy.
MORON [mawr-on, mohr-] Word Origin noun
1.Informal. a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment:
I wonder why they elected that narrow-minded moron to Congress.
2.Psychology. (no longer in technical use; now considered offensive) a person of borderline intelligence in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69.
You may learn something today!!!!

knowitall

You do seem to have the cop guilty already. You mention one so called fact. Are there other facts you leave out? Yes, if you don't want to answer me. Apply logic you say........it is possible, but not logical that the cop shot the man from a distance with his hands up. Possible, not logical.

deertracker

We are all guilty until proven innocent and some still believe what they want. Cops are no different. It's possible and very probable he killed the guy in cold blood. What about the guy that was just choked to death? How about the guy killed at the Fruitvale Transit station? He was handcuffed and laying face down when he was killed, or the guy in NY that was killed leaving his bachelor party? No logic but they all happened and two were caught on tape!

knowitall

I do not know ALL the information. None of us on this blog do. So, we all speculate what we want but bottom line is ALL the data needs to be in. When it is all in I am guessing there is complicity for both.

Donegan

I do not have anyone guilty yet, I still believe in that innocent till PROVEN guilty thing stuck in my head. Let the system work before burning down the city.
Animals love mob justice. Civilized society's are structured to avoid it

The Big Dog's back

So as long as it is some kid who pals around with terrorists in a war zone, you believe in innocent until proven guilty. But in America, the cop is the Judge, jury and executioner. Gotcha.

Donegan

Jumping to conclusions without a trial is one of the arguments you libtards use against the death penalty isn't it?
All citizen have the right to due process, Even the cop who shot the kid. You are a example of why this country is going down hill. Just brainless drones who parrot their god. I bet if Obama shot this kid you would cheer huh?

deertracker

That's what I got from his comments!

Stop It

A black man's perspective on the riots:

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/...

And once they found out the store the kid stole from, they looted and burned it. Talk about tribal...:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014...

knowitall

He wasn't a kid. He was a 18 year old young man of large size.
He blatantly and arrogantly stole from a store.
He shoved an employee who was trying to stop him out of the way when leaving the store.
Employee calls cops about robbery.
Cops respond to the call.
Cops confront large young man walking in the middle of the street refusing to get out of it (the one who stole from the store....no alleged at all)
Young man fights back.
Tussle happens.
Gun goes off.
If I were a cop trying to apprehend a violent robber, I would be a little afraid for my safety. So, what to do? Asking the robber to please give himself up just doesn't work. Was the shooting justified? Not sure. That is a very tenuous situation to be in. My safety as a cop would be the higher value. Split second decisions!

deertracker

The only problem with your timeline of events is that the cop involved had no knowledge of any robbery!

knowitall

Thanks. Fixed it.

The Big Dog's back

Why would you even speculate something like that?

knowitall

Big Dog......Read the whole article. Most of what I say is not speculation. Sounds like a likely scenario. When one cop is dispatched for a robbery, they all hear it no matter what they are involved with.
Not sure how it went down.....this seems like a possible scenario. Try another scenario......cop sees man in street and opens fire for no reason.
The man is 6'3", over 300 pounds. Pretty imposing. He also has an adult criminal record and is only 18. Juvenile records sealed. He has been arrested before for armed robbery. He belonged to a gang. Not an angel.
It is too bad a man got killed. Not sure if it could have been prevented. Was the cop fearing for his life? Was the man being belligerent? Did the cop have some other alternative actions he could have done and still been safe? We don't know for sure. All we have is what we are told and judge based on the credibility of the information. This is a blog...right? If you read most comments on this and other posts, most is speculation and opinion.
Bottom line......the investigation needs to continue and people with more and better information than we have will make the final decision. Let us hope the truth prevails and justice is done.
My post is borderline too long. Sorry.

The Big Dog's back

I agree, so quit speculating.

knowitall

Lol. OK.

deertracker

You fixed nothing. You keep lumping the robbery with the killing yet the two are not related!

knowitall

I will not speculate that they are or are not related. I told Big Dog I would stop speculating.

Truth or Dare

Excuse me, but this is civil LE and they should remain politically unattached!

#1. Arrest the officer, conduct a full out investigation w/impartial eyes.

#2. Time for the local representatives in Ferguson to step up and represent ALL!

#3. After viewing peaceful protestors being fired upon w/smoke bombs, flash bombs and private property being destroyed by the police, maybe U.S. Rep. Lewis, who survived a beating on the bridge back in the 60's is right, BRING IN THE NATIONAL GUARD TO PROTECT PEACEFUL PROTESTERS!

The militarization of our civil LE has been taking place for well over a decade, w/millions upon millions being spent for such weapons and equipment, and now our Federal Government is having second thoughts. Really?! "The land of the free and home of the brave" took on a whole new meaning a very long time ago.

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2cents

An interesting conversation from an eye witness telling them that Mr. Brown, all 6 feet 4 inches came after the cop. Armed or unarmed this recorded conversation fills a little more of the picture. Now just let all the parts of the puzzle come together before you burn and loot you own community to the ground. After all if the stores leave then now you have nothing more than a ghetto!

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/...

deertracker

You don't hear well! The voice you hear is actually unclears as to what just happened. It sounded to me he could not believe what was going on. He sounded stunned to me!

TuffNutts2011

After watching the video I feel bad for the store owner. I hope he has no lasting stress after being shoved and threatened by this guy.

Stop It

His store was looted and burned.

Julie R.

There's so many stories now, who do you believe? One eyewitness said she saw Brown fighting with the cop when the cop tried to get out of the police car. She then said she heard a shot and Brown took off running. She then said the cop fired at him and he jerked like he had been hit, but that's when Brown turned around with his hands raised and the cop shot him three more times. If that's true, I can't understand why the cop kept shooting, but then neither can I understand why Brown would ever try to fight a cop to begin with.

AJ Oliver

Now this shows what minorities are up against in Missouri:
Volunteers are registering people to vote in Ferguson. "As one volunteer put it, “We’re trying to make young people understand that this is how to change things.”
Breitbart.com reported this morning, “Republicans are criticizing efforts by liberal organizers to set up voter registration booths at the site where Missouri teenager Michael Brown was shot and killed by a local police officer.”
In an interview with Breitbart News, Missouri RNC executive director Matt Wills expressed outrage about the reports.
“If that’s not fanning the political flames, I don’t know what is,” Wills said, “I think it’s not only disgusting but completely inappropriate.”
Folks, you can't make this stuff up . . amazing.

arnmcrmn

Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department's top brass told FoxNews.com.

“The Assistant (Police) Chief took him to the hospital, his face all swollen on one side,” said the insider. “He was beaten very severely.”

According to the well-placed source, Wilson was coming off another case in the neighborhood on Aug. 9 when he ordered Michael Brown and his friend Dorain Johnson to stop walking in the middle of the road because they were obstructing traffic. However, the confrontation quickly escalated into physical violence, the source said..

“They ignored him and the officer started to get out of the car to tell them to move," the source said. "They shoved him right back in, that’s when Michael Brown leans in and starts beating Officer Wilson in the head and the face.

The source claims that there is "solid proof" that there was a struggle between Brown and Wilson for the policeman’s firearm, resulting in the gun going off – although it still remains unclear at this stage who pulled the trigger. Brown started to walk away according to the account, prompting Wilson to draw his gun and order him to freeze. Brown, the source said, raised his hands in the air, and turned around saying, "What, you're going to shoot me?"

At that point, the source told FoxNews.com, the 6 foot, 4 inch, 292-pound Brown charged Wilson, prompting the officer to fire at least six shots at him, including the fatal bullet that penetrated the top of Brown's skull, according to an independent autopsy conducted at the request of Brown's family.

Source Fox News.

Just another kid with an attitude and a complex that nobody is going to tell him what to do. Brown could have killed the officer with the punch that broke his eye socket.

Justified? Yes.

The Good Doctor

Faux News is your source? I urge you to read/watch/listen to a more reputable source.

arnmcrmn

The intolerant Brown protestors at it again. Some couples were standing on the side of a road in Ferguson, peacefully demonstrating their rights to side with the cops side. They had to be escorted off the streets by police because the "other" crowd started attacking them. Thug like, mob like mentality ruling in Ferguson.