Lawmakers complain Obama too aloof with Congress

Lack of communication between the White House and Congress described as "stunning"
Associated Press
Jul 26, 2014

 

President Barack Obama's request for billions of dollars to deal with migrant children streaming across the border set off Democrats and Republicans. Lawmakers in both parties complained that the White House — six years in — still doesn't get it when it comes to working with Congress.

Top GOP leaders got no notice of the $3.7 billion emergency request. The administration sent contradictory messages about what it wanted to deal with the border crisis. And as the proposal drew fierce criticism, the White House made few overtures to lawmakers in either party to rally support.

House and Senate lawmakers in both parties plus several senior congressional aides said this past week that the handling of the proposal by Obama and the White House is emblematic of the administration's rocky relationship with Congress: an ad hoc approach that shuns appeals to opponents and doesn't reward allies.

Combined with a divided Congress — GOP-led House and Democratic-controlled Senate — and election-year maneuvering, neither basic nor crisis-driven legislation is getting done.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., described the lack of communication between the White House and Congress as "stunning." He said he first learned many details of Obama's border request from news reports.

Obama is the "only person in America who can sign something into law and help bring members of his party on board for an outcome on a given piece of legislation that requires bipartisan support," McConnell said in an interview. "So it's a mystery, but that's the way they operate."

Several Democratic lawmakers echoed McConnell but spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid alienating the president of their party. They said they were baffled by the White House's tactics in handling the border request. Several Democrats expressed frustration that the president and administration officials weren't more involved in legislative fights.

Obama's hands-off approach was evident in June.

At a private White House meeting Obama held with the top four Republican and Democratic leaders in the House and Senate, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid appealed to the president to intervene in pressing McConnell to allow speedier approval of the president's dozens of ambassadorial nominees.

Obama said it was a matter for Reid and McConnell to work out, an answer that left Democrats flabbergasted, according to participants in the meeting. Finally, more than a week later, Obama called McConnell to urge him to break the logjam and get ambassadors confirmed.

McConnell said the conversation — one of the few he has had with Obama in recent months — was limited to ambassadors.

White House officials rejected the criticism, insisting that they have been regularly consulting with lawmakers.

While frustrated with the administration, Democrats also sympathized. They described Obama's untenable position of trying to work with Republicans unwilling to give him any legislative victories, especially the tea party class of 2010. The White House has argued that even if it tried to cut a deal with House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio — as it did in 2011 on entitlements, spending and taxes — there was no assurance Boehner could deliver his rambunctious caucus.

"You've got a core group of the House Republican caucus that has run on a platform of 'no compromise' — if the president's for it, they're against it," said Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md.

Several Democrats said Obama must contend with GOP animosity, but so did former President Bill Clinton, who was undeterred through two terms.

Obama held a few dinners with Senate Republicans last year, discussing budgets, entitlements and immigration over steak and coconut sorbet. Hopes for keeping a constructive conversation going have faded more than a year after the last dinner and several participants have had little contact with Obama since.

Faced with the arrival of more than 57,000 minors since October, mostly from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador, Obama proposed $3.7 billion in emergency spending to deal with the influx. Republicans pressed for changes to a 2008 trafficking victims law that would speed deportations of children from Central America.

For days, Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson privately told lawmakers he supported such a change, but the White House never pressed congressional Democrats about following through.

Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., criticized the White House strategy. "I try never to negotiate against myself, that's all I can tell you," he said.

More recently, the administration reached out to Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., with a few suggested changes to the 2008 law. It's doubtful the issue will be resolved before Congress recesses for August.

Congressional frustration with the administration is not limited to the White House.

Democratic Rep. Gerry Connolly implored the State Department last month to weigh in on a bipartisan resolution calling on Turkey to return confiscated Christian property before a House panel voted on the measure. The Virginia lawmaker complained the resolution included "gratuitous Turkey-bashing" and wanted State Department officials to help persuade lawmakers to support a toned-down version.

None of his House colleagues heard from department's legislative liaisons.

"The State Department was missing in action," Connolly said in an interview. "They have to professionalize their operation."

 

Comments

The Big Dog's back

A bunch of whining crying right wingnuts.

knowitall

Yes they are Dog.

Bottom Line

Thanks for the original thought. Every time you say that it just further proves how ridiculous and laughable you are. As always, you bring nothing.

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The Hero Zone

set off Democrats

in both parties

Several Democratic lawmakers echoed McConnell but spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid alienating the president of their party.

Harry Reid appealed to the president

an answer that left Democrats flabbergasted

While frustrated with the administration, Democrats

Several Democrats said Obama must contend with GOP animosity

but the White House never pressed congressional Democrats about following through

Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., criticized the White House strategy

Democratic Rep. Gerry Connolly implored

= = = = =

Yeah, buncha right wingnuts right there, eh? Oh and the citation? THIS ENTIRE FREAKING ARTICLE. Right here. Right above this road apple of a statement you made.

You were saying, Big Dog? Do you even bother to read the articles or do you just burp out the first knee-jerk, partisan response you can?

The Big Dog's back

So if a couple of Dinos say something it goes for the whole party?

Blackberry Phale

Obama = Miserable Failure.

jazzbo

Hi Darwin's choice !

CommonsenseNow

There are some people who are not worth wasting words on. There are a few posters on here who really DO fit the definition of "hater" (although I dislike that word). A real man doesn't hide behind his computer screen and throw rocks at everyone and slobber out first grade name calling. Who does that? Big Dog needs to get out and travel and meet some actual, real people. Some time out in the fresh air might do him some good. Also reading ... does wonders to expand the vocabulary.

Fromthe419

could you please post once where you don't say right wingnuts :)

The Big Dog's back

Until there are no longer right wingnuts, no.

Contango

Re: "Until there are no longer right wingnuts,"

Get those camps and gas chambers ready, eh lil' Nazi?

deertracker

Pooh, I was going to surprise you with a bottle of your FAVORITE whiskey but they were out of Kessler's. I figured there had to be more in the back so I asked the clerk and she told me that some old fat bald white guy in a mini skirt driving a broken down Buick bought them out. Thanks for spoiling my surprise!

Contango

Re: "I,"

What a load of nonsense.

jazzbo

Contango isn't fat but he is tall and bald and he looks late-60's or early 70's..

The Big Dog's back

ROFLMAO deer.

jazzbo

" Get those camps and gas chambers ready, eh lil' Nazi? "

"What a load of nonsense."

Blackberry Phale

Why did Obama fail? The typical answer from the left is one of racism or bigotry.

That's all you have.

Donegan

Obama does not have the time,He has too much campaigning to do. When it starts cutting into his campaign donations from the useful idiots who still worship him he might try to overstep congress to ram through a dictate that will harm more Americans than it helps. It is his M.O.

SCbuckeye

Obama isn't campaigning, he can't be President after 2016. He's fundraising to support the war on repubs because the repubs are raising lots of money to support the war on the dems. We should stop warring and see if we can solve some of the simple problem, then comprise on the bigger issues.

JACKEL

Well when you have one Representative Dum. Ann Kuster who doesn't know anything about Benghazi, another Dum that thinks Guam will tip if you put more marines on it. Another Dum from La. that thinks The Constitution is outdated because it is 400 year old and Bozo thinks there are 57 states and lies every time he talks, God help us !

Dr. Information

Can we favorite peoples posts on here, this one is a classic. Love it.

abigbear

Video

sugar

FAILED PRESIDENCY

gene44870

Well I guess there are more Americans that think.he is s pretty good president cause he was voted in for his second term .And is still there as today Before you condem him for a mess that was handed to him by your President . Not to mention he might just have saved thousands of lives when he signed an order to
bring all americans back to the homeland . So before you all condem him take a good look at his record and if you think.you can or could do better lets see your name on the ballet next election. And if you decide to run let me know so I can run for the border cause you can not run a country from behind a key board or on a blob

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The Hero Zone

Gene, I understand your points (and I can't thank you enough for keeping it civil!!!), however there are many things he has/not done that are of his own volition. While he won against a Republican, he may as well have been running against a wet blanket. Look at the popular vote to see that while he won, he lost voters between his first and second terms.

There are some of us behind keyboards and blogs who don't hate him as a human being. Rather, we expect a higher standard than what he has delivered. Constant fundraising, edicts, threats to veto legislation that hasn't even passed the House, false promises and/or lies, adjustments of laws on the fly, and more are the reason why we dislike his job performance as President. In fact, he hasn't had above a 50% approval rating since after his first year or two in office. Just yesterday: http://www.wptv.com/news/politic...

President of the United States of America is not a job you simply show up to and mean well, asking that to be the basis upon which you are judged. I would argue, gene, that if you are a fan of his you can do more for him by asking more of him. If you voted for him, don't make excuses for him. Hold him to the high standard you presumably did when/if you made your mark by his name, especially if you disliked his predecessor and wanted better.

Thank you for what you posted here. I, for one, appreciate it.

The Big Dog's back

So you and sam sit in on all the cabinet meetings zero zone?

Blackberry Phale

Someone must have accidentally rolled over the rock and let dog crawl out again.

Contango

Re: "let dog crawl out again,"

He's still recuperating from his open heart surgery - they didn't find one.

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/...

Blackberry Phale

lol.

Contango

Also, the dope can't remember what his deductible was.

"By the way, The Big Dog is Back!" (7/3/14)

The Big Dog's back

By the way moron, I already paid $400 towards my $2500 deductible on other things. Duh!

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The Hero Zone

It'd be nice if he held them with any regularity. Alas it is more important to have five fundraisers this week than be at his post.

The Big Dog's back

So you really think the President isn't on the ready 24/7?

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The Hero Zone

How can he be when he is too busy vacationing in Martha's Vineyard, Hawaii, and other places let alone attending fundraisers with "the 1%"? If nothing else doesn't it seem like it is just in poor taste to galavant around doing casual appearances when there are REAL crises and problems here and abroad?

It makes him appear detached, uninterested, and wholly unprofessional when he appears before cameras and browbeats the population about something before going to his next millionaire-attended fundraiser or vacation hotspot.

How would you like our fire or police chief to gallivant around the city, county, state, or country on a frequent basis? Or since you are so impassioned about business owners screwing over "labor"...the case you are making supports CEOs and the like who never actually engage their employees let alone stay in their office to do work or field complaints.

The behavior you are defending with this President is "why unions were made" in part. How would you like to live in a house with an absentee landlord? Doesn't it fill you with confidence that the person you rent from doesn't seem to care a lick about you, lives states away, but he's "on the ready" in case you have a problem with the property, neighbors, or would like information or representation with other tenants.

The Big Dog's back

Name a President who has done things any different than he has.

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The Hero Zone

Several of the founding Presidents come to mind. But the fact you don't care to ask for better is lazy and disappointing. In fact, your blessing of this behavior makes this President no better than our last. Hmm? Keep up Bush's legacy, Big Dog. You are making for a fine Republican.

The Big Dog's back

"Founding Presidents". Go back, and let me specify before you have another hissy, into your right wingnut closet.

jazzbo

THAT'S the word ...hissy...as in hissy fit.

deertracker

I am a bit shocked at your post HZ! This is the 21st century. Things change, people are different and different cultures behave differently. Everyone wants to tell this President how to lead, act, talk and do things the way they would even though they have never been President....of anything. He gets to be who he is and who he presented to the public. He's doing both.

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The Hero Zone

Deer, that is no excuse for this behavior. But let's say it is. That makes President Barack Obama THE SAME AS President George W. Bush. Same fundraising. Same golfing. Same lack of interest in the affairs of we small people of the lands. Do you want that? Or do you want a President who doesn't act like we're just a vote as he gallivants around doing "1%" things that have NOTHING to do with running the country?

The Big Dog's back

No use even trying to have an intelligent conversation with zero zone. I tried early on, but that right wingnutism keeps breaking down the door. And the funny part is, is that they keep coming up with unfounded things and want you to counteract to them. Huh? And zero zone, read this:

http://news.google.com/newspaper...

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The Hero Zone

Tell me which of my positions are "right wingnut"? I'm open to having an intelligent conversation, but it is difficult when in the same sentence you then call me a name like a fourth grader. I am open to you counteracting me because I want to discuss them and am not claiming to be perfect. However, consistent failure to counter my seemingly-childish points tells me either I am correct, that you lack the ability to personally do so, or that there is just a laziness present that prevents it from happening.

Speaking of lazy, you could have at least mentioned which article you wanted me to read. I presumed the Reagan one. So what do you want me to do with it? You know my position already. Posting this in support of our current President makes him equivalent or no better than the prior, and I know how huge a fan you are of Reagan and Bush. So congrats for admitting to the status quo and not wanting any better. If you want to be progressive I'll be over here waiting for you.

The Big Dog's back

Other than being Black, he has done things like previous Presidents when it comes to vacations. The POTUS is leader of the free world. Look at how bush and Obama grayed from their years in the White's house.

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The Hero Zone

So now race plays into his vacations too? What is your sick fascination with his pigmentation? That has nothing to do with anything we are discussing. Can you stop being eerily obsessed with that? It's kind of creepy.

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2cents

Make everything a human right! There will no one to pay the taxes to support anything soon...

http://rhrealitycheck.org/articl...

ohioengineer

Other presidents have not had control of Congress and yet have achieved remarkable success in getting their legislative packages approved. The most notable recent example is (dare I say the name) Ronald Reagan. This president was arguably as far to the right as Obama is to the left and his party never had complete control of Congress (in fact, in his last two years the Democrats controlled both houses); but despite this Reagan was willing and able to work with Congress and the rest as they say is history.

I will admit that Reagan was helped by the fact that his program was supported by the majority of Americans, which certainly gets the attention of Congressional leaders. Obama, on the other hand, does not enjoy this broad support for much of his agenda and Congress of course reads these same polls and reacts accordingly.

Bottom line: Obama has no one to blame (not even President Bush in this case) for the failure of his legislative program but himself. He has two choices: learn to compromise and work with Congress or change his agenda to more closely align with the majority of Americans. Since neither of these things is probably going to happen, we can expect more of the same stalemate for his remaining term.

The Big Dog's back

Gee, what's different now? Oh yeah, Obama is Black.

Contango

Re: "Obama is Black,"

True, but more importantly: A double-talking left wing wackjob.

SamAdams

You're right, Big Dog. The "Obama haters" all feel the way they do because he's a black man. It has NOTHING to do with

• REAL (not "fake," as the White House has termed them) scandals like Fast & Furious, Benghazi, IRS targeting of Obama "enemies" (something for which Nixon was rightfully impeached), the trading of terrorists for one Army deserter, the illegal surveillance of American citizens (including reporters), etc.

• The convoluted, ill-advised, and unconstitutional Obamacare law and the myriad "exceptions" made via executive order for supporters and/or for other political reasons (read "there's an election coming up so let's delay the worst of the worst 'til after we get as many Democrats elected as possible").

• A foreign policy that's effectively alienating our allies, emboldening our enemies, and making REAL leaders like Putin laugh (no, I don't AGREE with Putin's policies, but he's unquestionably a real leader)

• Economic policies that neither fix the very real problems at hand (like, for example, the many questions surrounding the too powerful Federal Reserve) and which all too often cause further damages

• The mess on our southern border which has not only not been ADDRESSED by Obama in any meaningful way, but which has been egregiously exacerbated by his "policies" (I use the term loosely) effectively opening the borders and encouraging illegal entry

Nope, none of us consider ANY of those things when we're blinded by the blackness of the man's skin!

Speaking of racism, Big Dog, you never answered my question elsewhere: Why do you hate Ted Cruz so much? Is it because he's Hispanic? IS IT?

The Big Dog's back

cruz is a right wingnut.

Blackberry Phale

Cruz 2016

jazzbo

No way , Blackberry Phellatio.

SamAdams

Are you trying to tell me that you're NOT a racist? That the only reason you don't like Ted Cruz has nothing to do with his ethnicity and everything to do with his political stance? Huh. Very interesting! If you expect me to believe that, why do you find it so difficult to believe that some of us oppose Obama because of HIS policies?

I assure you, Dog, I don't loathe Obama or consider him an abject failure because he's the first black President. I loathe him because he's the first RED President, and consider him an abject failure because...well, duh.

The Big Dog's back

Just to prove yourself, tell all of Reagan's, Bush1 and bush2 policies you disagree with. ted cruz is a right wingnut.

SamAdams

The list is so long that I can't even REMEMBER everything I disagreed with! Let's just stick with George W. Bush and the biggie: The USA PATRIOT Act. I screamed long and loud about that one! (So, coincidentally, did Senator Obama. That was before President Obama extended it and expanded it, of course...) I also fought against MATRIX.

P.S. If it helps, the most major thing that I RECALL disgreeing with Reagan about was his amnesty for illegal aliens.

The Big Dog's back

Well gee sam, since you hate all of Obama's policies, and could only come up with one for the others I asked you about, would you like it better if I called you prejudiced?

The Big Dog's back

Wow, another unpatriotic traitor. Putin wants people like you. Watch out for the SAM's on your way over.

Contango

"Putin wants people like you."

And Pres. Putin liked Saddam - like you.

The Big Dog's back

Answer 1 question pooh, did Saddam have that country under control?

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2cents

50% black, seems people keep forgetting this? What is the difference anyway? There is qualified and there is unqualified, male, female, color, are irrelevant. Results, dedication and protection of the people not an agenda are the most important.

Blackberry Phale

Barry could be purple, he is still a failure.

deertracker

You are not welcome here BEAT IT!

jazzbo

Its Darwin.

dontknowmuch

Half white too boy

CommonsenseNow

Obama is a mulatto; he is both black and white. And who are the real racists? There is a black genocide going on in this country where 36 percent of the black population has been wiped out due to abortion. In New York City today, more blacks are aborted than born. Black abortions comprise 1/3 of all abortions even though they are only 12-13 percent of the population. And now our new healthcare bill mandates that Americans pay for these type of abortions. Marcy Kaptur's only pro-life vote was against tax-payer funded abortion. So I do salute her for that. But that doesn't fit into your one-sentence talking points, "Big Dog," because you truly are incapable of any sort of independent thought. You work with this little tiny hateful paradigm, and I'll leave it at that.

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The Hero Zone

You may enjoy this based on your post here:

Americans really wish they had elected Mitt Romney instead of Obama

Mitt Romney 2014?

Americans are so down on President Obama at the moment that, if they could do the 2012 election all over again, they'd overwhelmingly back the former Massachusetts governor's bid. That's just one finding in a brutal CNN poll, released Sunday, which shows Romney topping Obama in a re-election rematch by a whopping nine-point margin, 53 percent to 44 percent. That's an even larger spread than CNN found in November, when a survey had Romney winning a redo 49 percent to 45 percent.

Two years ago, Obama won re-election with about 51 percent of the vote.

Of course, the poll should be taken with a grain of salt. While Obama is actually taking on the tough task of leading the nation, Romney is sitting comfortably on the sidelines. Still, the finding comes as foreign and domestic crises have sent Obama's approval rating tumbling back to 40 percent, per Gallup.

Also in the CNN survey, a record-low 46 percent say Obama "shares [their] values," while only 49 percent say he is "sincere in what he says," also a record-low. - - Jon Terbush

http://theweek.com/article/index...

Ugh.

EDIT: Clicking on the link will take you to the story that has further links to the polls' results if you want to see for yourself.

meowmix

Gee HZ---funny you stopped this article before this next paragraph..
"Of course, the poll should be taken with a grain of salt. While Obama is actually taking on the tough task of leading the nation, Romney is sitting comfortably on the sidelines."

Yes, and I'm sure McCain and Palin would have also been elected. Really?? Dream on. But hey, if you like polls, how about the poll that on 9% of Americans favor the Republican led Congress?

The Big Dog's back

Now, now meowmix, zero zone is a straight shooter. He would never leave anything out intentionally. Sarcasm.

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The Hero Zone

Hey meowmix, do me a favor. Let's follow along with what I posted exactly above your response claiming I exempted information:

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You...

Americans...

Mitt...

Americans...

Two...

Of course, the poll should be taken with a grain of salt. While Obama is actually taking on the tough task of leading the nation, Romney is sitting comfortably on the sidelines. Still, the finding comes as foreign and domestic crises have sent Obama's approval rating tumbling back to 40 percent, per Gallup.

Also...

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Ugh.

EDIT:...

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Please point out where I "stopped" this article short? I must have missed my own direct copy/paste of the ENTIRE article I linked to with the ADDITIONAL comment of "Clicking on the link will take you to the story that has further links to the polls' results if you want to see for yourself." That means that I am directing readers to click on the link to not only see the story for themselves but to look at the numbers.

What are you trying to pull here? Did you not see in my original article or the link I provided the EXACT words you say I exempt? If you need reading glasses or something, please wear them because you made yourself rather foolish by calling me out for something that not only didn't happen but happened RIGHT ABOVE your response claiming it.

I'm curious though about the poll that rightfully shows Congress getting horrendous approval. What makes it "Republican led"? Did I miss a secret election where Republicans control it with supermajorities in BOTH parts of Congress? Or is Congress made of a House of Representatives which barely sees a Republican simple majority and a Senate with a Republican minority?

http://history.house.gov/Institu...

https://www.senate.gov/pagelayou...

What kind of garbage are you trying to pull with this stuff, meowmix?

SassieSuzieSez

Picture this...you have a sink full of water, that you have just pulled the plug on. What do you see next??? Yes, that is America rapidly going down the drain!!! Do the basic math people! America can't be Sugar Daddy to the world. We don't have enough working, tax-paying citizens to support all the free stuff being given away. Just that simple!!

The Big Dog's back

suzie right wingnut, where are all of the free things?

There you go again

Now that is a stupid question! And you know the answer, numbnut.

Contango

When they were passing out brains, lil' pup thought that they said "trains," and he said: Don't bother, I'll get one later.

Dr. Information

The free things are in your kitchen Dog! You know those stocked up swiss miss rolls you love. 2 heart attacks in a year, come on Dog, you got this. Swiss miss, swiss miss, swiss miss.

The Big Dog's back

3 right wingnuts, 3 non answers.

Contango

Re: "3 non answers"

Like you EVER answer ANYTHING. lol

deertracker

Says the king of deflection!!

Contango

Re: "Says,"

What a load of nonsense.

jazzbo

Dr. Information.....drop dead.

Blackberry Phale

I do give Obama some credit. He fools the most ignorant very easy.

deertracker

I said BEAT IT!

jazzbo

Blackberry Phale/Darwin - he's fooled you.

deertracker

He's the fool not I.

jazzbo

That's what I meant.

I hate this about typing , misunderstanding can happen so easily.

Contango

Re: "The administration sent contradictory messages about what it wanted to deal with the border crisis."

The Obama solution to the immigration issue: Dem fundraisers and golfing.

Contango

Fri. July, 25, 2:00 PM:

"The President meets with President Molina of Guatemala, President Hernandez of Honduras, and President Ceren of El Salvador; the Vice President also attends"

Where was Pres. Obama crowing in a nationally televised speech in the Rose Garden afterward over some great 'solution'?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedu...

Dr. Information

A leader is suppose to lead and Obama is a prime example of what a leader isn't. A leader listen's and brings people together, Obama has split Congress and this nation like no other president in our history.

Flat out, the guy is a complete joke of a failure.

knowitall

You say he has split congress. What a joke! The republicans have split congress.....it is called tea party vs. more reasonable thinking conservatives.

Contango

Re: "reasonable thinking conservatives,"

lol. What does that mean?

deertracker

Exactly! CONS don't think they just hate!

Blackberry Phale

Your rambling, incoherent, reworded dribble is getting old.

Hate is not something liberals say or do, it's what they are.

deertracker

What part of BEAT IT puzzles you!?

Contango

Re: "BEAT IT,"

What a load of nonsense.

jazzbo

"What a load of nonsense. "

--must be the phrase of the day.

knowitall

You are right.....the word "reasonable" does not pertain to republicans.

deertracker

I think he is described as aloof because he won't kiss RepubliCONS' butt. He has invited them to the White House on several different occasions and they snubbed him. Even for State dinners. I like his approach. He doesn't have to nor should he kiss any butt. He went to the American people and asked for their vote and got it TWICE so he owes the CONS nothing. I say to hell with them. He has been grossly disrespected on National tv and asked for more proof of his citizenship than any other person on the planet. I don't remember a request for Reagan's birth certificate or college transcripts. Why no griping when other Presidents golfed or went on vacation. His wife has been disrespected repeatedly. It gets old people. I personally would have went slam off when Jan Brewer pointed her finger in my face if it had been me. Completely disrespectful.

Deny it all any of you want but the root of the issue is the fact that he is Black. Why is he considered Black yet has a white mother and was raised by white grandparents? Well that's just the way America is. It really bothers some that this junior Senator from Ill. swooped in and dethroned those that think they are the ones entitled to be on that throne WRONG!

America has changed and is still changing. Deal with it like adults instead of haters. Huffing and puffing with your arms folded against your chest and your lips poked out solves nothing. I hope when his term is over his family earns trillions and his family sends the haters a big fat long middle finger!

The Big Dog's back

So true.

Blackberry Phale

Obama's legacy will indeed be one of total failure.

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JMOP

With all do respect Deertracker, there is a big difference between kissing butt, and negotiating/compromising.

deertracker

Yes there is and this President has tried to compromise but it is always the CONS way or no way!

Contango

Re: "tried to compromise,"

"Tried" ain't doing. Pres. "all talk-no action" Obama.

The Big Dog's back

So should Obama get down on his knees and say don't beat me masta Repubs, don't beat me. You want everything your way mastas, OK.

jazzbo

THAT'S what they want.

They cant break him , so they hate him.

deertracker

It take two to compromise pooh!

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The Hero Zone

This was disappointing to read.

Dr. Information

Go figure, the race card gets brought up by deer. When in doubt, use race. Deer you say he now isn't black? Then why use the race card all the time. Silly liberals, they forget what they post and talk out of their butts all the time.

deertracker

Why don't you just go.......AWAY! No doubt here at all. Face facts and don't put words in my mouth.

Contango

Re: "don't put words in my mouth."

What a load of nonsense.

Blackberry Phale

For Obama to be voted "the worst president" in the past 100 years is quite an achievement. He beat out Carter, Bush, and even Nixon. What a guy!

knowitall

Nixon a good man....got us out of the civil war in Vietnam.

Contango

Re: "got us out of the civil war in Vietnam,"

Pres. Ford.

The Dems put the U.S. in and got the U.S. out.

knowitall

OMG..........are all our young people as ignorant of history as you! Ford didn't do crap. Besides, he was a republican.....duh, Nixon's VP. Also, during the Eisenhower administration we sent "advisors" to Vietnam. So, republican in- republican out.

Contango

Re: "ignorant of history"

Yes, you are.

See: Gulf of Tonkin Resolution.

The U.S. went from CIA operatives and military "advisors" to WAR.

Saigon fell in Apr. 1975, who was POTUS?

knowitall

Nixon signed the peace treaty with N. Vietnam and left the south to their own means. Peace treaty means we are done. When Saigon fell, it was S. Vietnam's war, not ours.

Contango

Re: "left the south to their own means."

The Dems cut off military support for S. Vietnam.

"Congress literally dropped the hammer on the Vietnam War with its passage in 1973 of a joint resolution (H.J.Res. 636) prohibiting any further appropriation or expenditure of any funds for any 'combat in or over or from the shores of North Vietnam, South Vietnam, Laos or Cambodia.'"

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/us...

The VC broke the treaty.

Official end of the war: Apr. '75

knowitall

End of war and Who Got us out are two different things. Nixon ended our participation in it, Ford was president when Saigon fell.
My comments dealt with who was president when we got out.

Contango

Re: "Nixon ended our participation in it,"

Nope. He was still militarily funding S. Vietnam even after the treaty. The Dem Congress ended it.

knowitall

A leader leads his/her people, not take polls and see where the wind is blowing before making decisions. Do I think President Obama is an overall failure.....no. But, I do think he has done some good things like the Affordable Care Act (which needs a lot of fixing), gotten us out of Iraq (should not have been there in the first place under the false pretenses that Pres. Chaney gave us), and getting out of Afghanistan. Other than those three things, he has disappointed.

deertracker

Really? What about the jobs that have been replaced while he has been in office or the orders to kill bin Laden, or attempting to equalize pay for women, or the stock market record gains, and so much more. No President is perfect but he has done WAY more than others plus he is a good man!

Contango

Re: "he is a good man!"

Swooning? LOVE is in the air! :)

Blackberry Phale

Even Obama's supporter list very few lasting achievements of his administration. Stay ghetto, man!

deertracker

Whiteberry Phale would be more appropriate for you!

jazzbo

...or Whiteberry Phellatio.

dontknowmuch

nice one jizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

jazzbo

Thank you ...in your face.

knowitall

Low wage jobs.......median income gone down even as the 1% goes up.
Kill Bin Laden.......good job.
Equalize pay for women......that has already happened a long time ago, it is a misnomer as equal pay for equal jobs is a reality, the average is less since more women have lower paying jobs. Check the facts.
Stock market.......helps those who are invested, most Americans can't invest as the median income is down.

deertracker

How is median income being down his fault? Facts are women are still paid less. You check your facts! This is a better America with this man in charge!

Check the stats!

Contango

Re: "this man in charge!"

"In charge"? LMAO.

The GQ Pres. - looks good, no substance.

jazzbo

You look shabby and have no substance.

SamAdams

In general terms, women are paid less only if you average all wages. Women doing the same job as men are paid comparably; average wages are lower because there are more women than men in lower paying jobs.

That, of course, is in the macrocosm. Let's look at something a little more germane to your comment here and just look at women in the White House under the administration of a President who huffs and puffs about equal pay for equal work, and what do we see? Ooops! We see women paid substantially LESS than their male counterparts!

I am in full agreement with equal pay for equal work and assuming comparable qualifications/experience. Apparently, your naked Emperor isn't no matter WHAT he tries to tell us on TV!

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The Hero Zone

I generally agree with you here, knowitall.

The Big Dog's back

Returned The Executive Branch To Fiscal Responsibility

1. Within his first week, he signed an Executive Order ordering an audit of government contracts, and combating waste and abuse. http://1.usa.gov/dUvbu5

2. Created the post of Chief Performance Officer, whose job it is to make operations more efficient to save the federal government money. http://n.pr/hcgBn1

3. On his first full day, he froze White House salaries. http://on.msnbc.com/ewJUIx

4. He appointed the first Federal Chief Information Officer to oversee federal IT spending.http://www.cio.gov

5. He committed to phasing out unnecessary and outdated weapons systems. To that end, he also signed the Democratic-sponsored Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act, which attempted to put a stop to waste, fraud and abuse in the defense procurement and contracting system. http://bit.ly/hOw1t1 http://bit.ly/fz8GAd

6. Through an executive order, he created the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. http://bit.ly/hwKhKa

Contango

Re: "the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform,"

And ignored the recommendations.

Pres. Obama: Big on talk and not much action.

deertracker

You are big on drinking, swallowing too!

Contango

Re: "You,"

What a load of nonsense.

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The Hero Zone

Thank you for at least citing this list. Now here's my retort:

1. That's great. We're a bit past the first week of his Presidency. What is the net savings this has generated? At least in his first week of his six years he seems to have done something.

2. Creating a post does not guarantee results. Results matter, not the intention of a fancily-named position. If that were the case the President should make the "Everyone Is Happy Officer" because, according to the logic you seem to be using, that will guarantee everyone to be happy. Why hasn't he done this yet?

Also, to be clear, we are talking about this person, right?

The White House has released the letter that Nancy Killefer wrote to President Obama requesting that he withdraw her nomination as chief performance officer.

* * * * *
February 3, 2009

Dear Mr. President,

I recognize that your agenda and the duties facing your Chief Performance Officer are urgent. I have also come to realize in the current environment that my personal tax issue of D.C. Unemployment tax could be used to create exactly the kind of distraction and delay those duties must avoid. Because of this I must reluctantly ask you to withdraw my name from consideration.

I am deeply honored to have been selected by you and you have my deep appreciation for your confidence in me. You have my heartfelt support and best wishes for success in all your endeavors.

Respectfully yours,
Nancy Killefer
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20...

3. White House salaries have since been unfrozen and raised. But hey, he's done two things in his first week as President. To be fair it will take about a year before he never gets above 50% approval again. But wait...oops! Could it be our President was again lying at worst or has no idea what he is talking about at best?

So no one at the White House has seen a salary increase in over two years? Er, not quite. Gawker’s John Cook did a little comparison between the published salary reports for the three cycles, and it turns out that more than half saw their salaries increase from 2010 to 2011 — and 75% got increases from 2009 to 2010:
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/...

4. Overseeing something, especially when it is redundant to the GAO, doesn't guarantee results. Again, just because you make a position doesn't guarantee performance. Now I am certainly a proponent for modernization and technology. However I am not a fan of no-bid contracts going to foreign companies with crony ties to the White House to build failed health care websites. I can't say I'm a fan of $300,000,000 not even being able to upgrade the failing Social Security system...and it's not even done.

5. "Unnecessary and outdated" is subject to opinion, not fact. Also, signing a Democratic-sponsored act is hardly an accomplishment for him. I can only wonder if we had missile defense systems in places like Poland and other areas in that region if we'd see as many planes shot down as we are...hmmm...

6. This is the same panel that had its ideas rejected by members of both parties and hasn't met since 2011? We're talking about that one, right? Again, just because you make a panel or hire a friend to do a job in the White House doesn't mean something is accomplished by it.

Looks like their schedule is pretty busy. I'm sure, too, our President has demanded with his pen and phone every day (he's not fundraising, vacationing, or golfing) that they meet. I bet he's losing sleep and angry as hell that this commission is actively not meeting on purpose and by his demand.

http://www.fiscalcommission.gov/...

The Big Dog's back

For the rest of Obama's accomplishments click here:

http://pleasecutthecrap.com/obam...

Contango

Re: "Obama's accomplishments"

He 'accomplished' a lot with Reggie "Body Man" Love.

deertracker

...says the guy in the mini skirt!

Contango

Re: "the mini skirt!"

What a load of nonsense.

Blackberry Phale

Premature ejacluations of the Obama presidency seem to be in with lefties who worship a failure.

Obama Failure= Success in Leftworld.

deertracker

Pervert Alert!

jazzbo

Its Darwin.

Blackberry Phale

Worst ever. Worst ever. Obama's so clever. He's the worst ever!

Blackberry Phale

Obama's numbers are so low even people in Kenya are saying he was born in America.

Blackberry Phale

It's clear that libs are plagued by distorted perceptions and delusional thinking. Liberalism has become increasingly vile, rancid and toxic. It is simply the same, tired old playbook of the libs for decades. When guilty of something, accuse your opponents of doing exactly that. The mindset of a liberal cannot be changed by logic, reason, truth, nor goodness.

deertracker

Keep it up Whiteberry and your KLAN membership will be revoked. Even the Klan wants nothing to do with you!

holysee

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The Big Dog's back

MCCONNELL: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.

Does this sound like a guy who wants to get along?

Contango

Re: "one-term president."

He's been pretty worthless in his second one.

Wait until Nov., if the Repubs take the Senate.

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