House chairman: $3.7 billion request 'too much'

Obama requested funds for dealing with tens of thousands of kids who've been arriving at U.S.-Mexico border
Associated Press
Jul 11, 2014

 

A key Republican said Friday that President Barack Obama's multibillion-dollar emergency request for the border is too big to get through the House, as a growing number of Democrats rejected policy changes Republicans are demanding as their price for approving any money.

The developments indicated that Obama faces an uphill climb as he pushes Congress to approve $3.7 billion to deal with tens of thousands of unaccompanied kids who've been arriving at the U.S.-Mexico border from poor and gang-ridden Central American nations. And they suggested that even as the children keep coming, any final resolution is likely weeks away on Capitol Hill.

As House members gathered Friday morning to finish up legislative business for the week, Rep. Hal Rogers of Kentucky, chairman of the Appropriations Committee that controls spending, told reporters: "It's too much money. We don't need it."

Rogers, who'd previously sounded open to the spending request for more immigration judges, State Department programs and other items, said that Obama's request includes some spending to meet immediate needs, and his committee is working to sort that out.

But he said other aspects can be handled through Congress' regular spending bills, though no final action is likely on those until after the November midterm elections. And asked whether the House would approve the spending package as-is, he said "no."

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest responded by saying that "we're open to working with Democrats and Republicans in Congress to get this done."

"The thing that I would point out, though, is that the president has moved quickly to be very clear about what specifically needs to be funded," Earnest said. "And we would like to see Republicans back up their rhetoric with the kind of urgent action that this situation merits."

Rogers spoke shortly after the Congressional Hispanic Caucus convened a press conference to denounce efforts to attach legal changes to the spending measure that would result in returning the children home more quickly to El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala. Those countries account for the bulk of the more than 57,000 kids who've arrived since October.

Republicans are demanding such changes, and White House officials also have indicated support, while House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid left the door open to them this week.

But key Senate Democrats are opposed, and members of the all-Democratic Hispanic Caucus added their strong objections Friday that sending the kids home quickly without immigration hearings could put them at risk.

"I don't know of a man or a woman in the Congressional Hispanic Caucus who is going to vote to undermine the rights of these children," said Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill. "It would be unconscionable for us to do that."

Gutierrez said the lawmakers would make that same case directly to Obama in a meeting next week. And he pleaded for Democrats to stand firm.

"I'm tired of every time the Republicans raise their voices against the immigrants that somehow we ameliorate, we change our position and weaken our stance," Gutierrez said. "Our stance should be clear — we're for the immigrants."

The policy changes in question concern a 2008 law aimed at helping victims of human trafficking that appears to be contributing to the current crisis by ensuring court hearings for the children now arriving from Central America. In practice, that often allows them to stay in this country for years as their cases wend their way through the badly backlogged immigration court system, and oftentimes they never show up for their court dates.

Obama administration officials along with Republican lawmakers want to change the law so that Central American kids can be treated the same way as Mexican kids, who can be turned around quickly by Border Patrol agents.

"If you want to stop the problem, treat the children humanely and send them back. I guarantee you it will work," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said Friday in a speech in Louisville.

Democrats and advocacy groups say such a change would put the kids in jeopardy.

"We will oppose this link even if it means the funding bill goes down," said Kevin Appleby, director of migration and refugee policy for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. If the changes go through, "They'll be sent back to their persecutors with no help whatsoever, and possibly to their deaths."

The border controversy spilled over to a gathering of the National Governors Association in Nashville, Tenn., where governors of both parties blamed a gridlocked Congress.

"Congress needs to act," declared Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin, the group's Republican chairman. "They are children, so we want to treat them very humanely, but we also have a lot of concerns for the health and wellness of our citizens in our state."

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jazzbo

Imagine that?
The Republicans saying no to people in trouble?

$3.7 billion is chump change to many American businesses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...

The Big Dog's back

"Listen, the only way to win a Republican primary these days is to out-crazy all the other candidates. And I think a lot of Americans wished they’d all get off their TV screens, just get the hell out of [our] lives. Americans want somebody who’s actually going to take a stab at solving their problems. The Republicans are always getting in their way, and saying something crazy in the process."

Darwin's choice

So, creating a "problem" by his own inaction, you know, not following the laws already on the books, then flailing around campaigning yet again, and you have the gall to blame "the other guys"? You're absolutely stupid.

obama/failed

jazzbo

Darwin's deuce -

You're not even on the same page as this article.

You really do have people think for you.

Darwin/loser

coasterfan

Half of the time, Republicans whine about Obama being weak, not taking action. The other half of the time, he is labeled "dictator", "imperial".
He isn't campaigning - he already has the job. He is doing the absolute smartest thing possible when faced with a completely intransigent Republican House who refuse to do their job: he is rallying support among the common people.

Republicans not only won't pass any legislation, they won't even let things come to a vote. Your party already shut down the government, and continues to make sure that nothing gets done, yet you have the gall to blame Obama for trying to find a way to make government work?

dontknowmuch

Quick coastie.... I know you're on top of things.... how many bills have gotten lost on Reid's desk? Answer: PLENTY! So there's blame to go on both sides.

FYI....the common people are taking a hosing under Obama...taxes going up (thank you ACA) and blacks (his people) are really hurting under him.

grumpy

it is always best to give citations to where you do your copy and paste from... unless you are hiding the fact that it is from a leftwing nutjob email chain... from a conversation between two leftwing nut jobs Rev. Al Sharpton and Congressman Alan Grayson.

http://alangraysonemails.tumblr....

This is another example of high quality research and individual thought from the puppy. Thanks for being an example... again. Read something other than leftwing nut material. It won't rot your brain as fast as your current choices.

The Big Dog's back

Awwwwwww. poor deuce pooh. Truth just kills you.

grumpy

Yes so much of your "truth" that no legitimate media outlet will print it. As I said before, read something more than leftwing nutjob blogs, and now email chains. When legit media sources won't print that foolishness it says volumes, and you lick that toilet bowl clean.

The Big Dog's back

deuce pooh, as long as you keep looking up my posts, that takes away from you spreading more lies on here.

grumpy

10 seconds to copy and paste into search and 2 minutes to copy and paste onto here, not much time for someone who was able to save, invest, and retire early. I have time to spare. It is fun rubbing you nose in it and it does clean the toilet bowl when I do so, it's what I consider a bonus, piddle puppy.

YoMamma

Why not use the funding we would normally send to Mexico to take care of the mess? I bet Mexico would close their southern border pretty fast!

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JMOP

Yeah, why not? Mexico watches their border for less than ours. They captured an American Marine and has had him detained. Meanwhile some of these "unattended children", "refugees", "immigrant children", or whatever they're called this week, are making their way into America with open arms and on taxpayers dimes.

anthras

Re:"Why not use the funding we would normally send to Mexico to take care of the mess? I bet Mexico would close their southern border pretty fast!

Or an alternative to that is the fact that the state dept. has lost 6 billion dollars that they can't account for. Why can't congress just tell Obama to find the 6billion and he can then use it however he wishes to use it. Also maybe the government can cut back on bonuses especially the bonuses handed out in the IRS and VA an it does seem that they did nothing to earn them.

Donegan

Lets hold a referendum and all those who support Obama and his crises making admin should be forced to pay for it and leave the rest of us alone. Lets see who the hypocrites are.
I am sure Jazz,Dog and coaster would open their doors to the MS13 members as long as they have token children to cross the border with. Lets make it happen people!

coasterfan

Yes, and then we'll force the GOP to pay for the Iraq/Afghanistan wars they put on America's credit card, and for the subsequent Recession/financial meltdown they caused.

You know, REAL crises, and ones that cost Americans a heck of a lot more than the mini-crises that have occurred during the Obama years.

Apparently, there's plenty of hypocrisy to go around. At least Bush had the good sense to go quietly to his room and ponder just how horribly he screwed things up for America. Other Republicans should follow his lead, because seriously, the rest of us have NOT forgotten just how bad things were in 2007-2008.

Donegan

That's fine by me, But remember Democrats also voted to go to war as well so you will just get doubled down on. Lets make it happen! You want it lets do it!
I vote third party moron so i will owe nothing for your stupidity.

dontknowmuch

Donegan..... dimwitted Dems forget the wars were voted on.... they only want to blame Bush

jazzbo

The Democrats voted on the information that the Bush administration fed them.

Too bad the information was lies.

The Big Dog's back

Oh boy,you struck a nerve with the right wingnuts that bush lied and fed info that were lies. Look right wingnuts, you own the Iraq war and the Great Recession. OWN UP TO IT!

jazzbo

The rightwing nuts ALWAYS leave that " lying " part out.

Donegan

If they were dumb enough to be fooled by a idiot they should not be in office. Face it your gods are just as responsible for the wars as they voted for them.
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998. *

"Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
President Clinton, Jan. 27, 1998. * video

"Fateful decisions will be made in the days and weeks ahead. At issue is nothing less than the fundamental question of whether or not we can keep the most lethal weapons known to mankind out of the hands of an unreconstructed tyrant and aggressor who is in the same league as the most brutal dictators of this century."
Sen. Joe Biden (D, DE), Feb. 12, 1998 *

"It is essential that a dictator like Saddam not be allowed to evade international strictures and wield frightening weapons of mass destruction. As long as UNSCOM is prevented from carrying out its mission, the effort to monitor Iraqi compliance with Resolution 687 becomes a dangerous shell game. Neither the United States nor the global community can afford to allow Saddam Hussein to continue on this path."
Sen. Tom Daschle (D, SD), Feb. 12, 1998 *

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeleine Albright, Feb. 18, 1998. *

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb. 18, 1998. *

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998. *

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998. *

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeleine Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999. *

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL) and others, Dec, 5, 2001. *

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002. *

"We know that he has stored away secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002. *

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002. *

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002. *

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002. *

"My position is very clear: The time has come for decisive action to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. I'm a co-sponsor of the bipartisan resolution that's presently under consideration in the Senate. Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave threat to America and our allies..."
John Edwards (D, NC), Oct. 7, 2002 * video

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002. *

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002. *

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002. *

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members.... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct. 10, 2002. * video

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.
Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002. *

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
Funny how they all lied even before Bush was in office!

jazzbo

Dumbagain -

I'll repeat it again - slowly - because you are very slow witted :

"The Democrats voted on the information that the Bush administration fed them."

Funny how truth kinda rattles your world , isnt it ?

KnuckleDragger

It wasn't true? Hmmm, I served in Iraq during the war and I can assure you plenty of chemical weapons were found. The problem? The media didn't report it.

jazzbo

Ask a 101st Mountain Division soldier about what they found.

KnuckleDragger

LMAO! I would but there is no such unit as the 101st Mountain Division and hasn't been for decades. Moron.

grumpy

The ONLY place a 101st Mountain division appears is on some video game. That is the quality of information you can expect from jazzbo.

jazzbo

...and the only place where you see yourself as a great intellectual is in your mind.

grumpy

Nope just someone who has learned the lessen to check my facts before writing them down. it takes little time and prevents looking like a fool when the truth is then brought up. Is it that you enjoy looking like a fool? or do you just not learn from your past mistakes? Tis why I link to what proves my statements so often. You might expect people on an anonymous news blog to accept everything you say to be the truth, but as has been shown, it ain't that way in real life.

jazzbo

Yeah , right , grumpy :

"Nope just someone who has learned the lessen to check my facts before writing them down. it takes little time and prevents looking like a fool when the truth is then brought up. Is it that you enjoy looking like a fool? or do you just not learn from your past mistakes?"

It's LESSON not LESSEN....

So much for your..." taking a little time and not looking like a fool"...discourse.

" Tis " ?... Really ?

Darwin's choice

So, azzbo, just where did you come up with the "101st mountain group", and tell us what they found?

You're a freaking idiot moron! "obama supporter"...enough said!

obama/failing azzbo/flailing

jazzbo

I made a mistake.
It has been years since I last talked to the quy.
I was thinking 101th but it was 10th.
But there is a 10th Mountain Division .
And he said they were angry because they found no WMD's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10t...(United_States)

Darwin's choice

From a movie you may have seen? Still failing.

jazzbo

Darwin's deuce -

You didnt you read my above comment.

Doesn't matter , you cant comprehend anything anyway.

You just play off with what other people say- you brainless douche bag.

Darwin's deuce / loser

Darwin's choice

Do you ever tire of bumping your head under obamas desk? With dog, coaster, deer, and yourself, there's not much room.....

obama/failing

The Big Dog's back

Sure knucklehead, sure.

Contango

Re: "'The Democrats voted on the information that the Bush administration fed them.'"

Dems on Intelligence and other related committees had access to the same classified info.

They voted for it - get over it.

Pres. Bush is stupid, but he was smart enough to fool 'em?

Can't have it both ways, Sport.

jazzbo

Re: '''Dems on Intelligence and other related committees had access to the same classified info.'''

No they didn't.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...

Donegan

I will say this loudly so you can read it. HALF THE QUOTES ARE FROM 1998,THAT IS BEFORE BUSH. Now how did they get information from a guy who was not even in office? Was Clinton lying to them?
Talk about dim witted, Read it before commenting moron, The dates are there next to who said it.

anthras

Jazz says "I'll repeat it again - slowly - because you are very slow witted :

"The Democrats voted on the information that the Bush administration fed them."

Funny how truth kinda rattles your world , isnt it ?"

It is also funny that in Donegan's post that there is a statement by then President Clinton as early as 01/27/1998 and several more that were prior to 9-11. Would you please provide a link or source advising when and where President Bush had advised of the WMDs prior to that?

Maybe President Bush thought there were the MDMs because of the Democrats that were lying prior to when talked about the WMDs and maybe the Democrats voted on the information provided by statements of President Clinton,Sen. Joe Biden,Sen. Tom Daschle, Madeleine Albright, Sandy Berger, Nancy Pelosi and many other Democrats. These statements were made well before the Bush administration even existed.

jazzbo

Buy a history book .

SamAdams

Odd how that same information was coming out of ALL of the Western intelligence agencies...

Odd, too, how the big news last week went something like this: "Oh, my GAWD! ISIS has its hands on, like, chemical weapons Saddam had hidden! Oooh, whatever shall we do?"

In truth, we didn't need intelligence agencies from ANY country to tell us the Saddam Hussein regime had -- and used -- chemical weapons of mass destruction. There were quite a few Kurds who could have told you THAT much! Oh, wait. They CAN'T. Saddam KILLED them all with your "imaginary" chemical weapons!

KnuckleDragger

Don't bother with the truth Sam, you're wasting your time with these idiots. Heck, Jizzbo thought he would one up me by using an army unit that doesn't even exist. No such unit as the 101st Mountain Division. The one I worked with in Iraq was the 10th Mountain Division. I love it when someone who didn't spend one minute in Iraq during the war now believes they know everything that went on there. You can't fix stupid.

jazzbo

KnuckleNutz-

I just clicked over to this page to see another response from you.
I'll repeat :

" I made a mistake.
It has been years since I last talked to the quy.
I was thinking 101th but it was 10th.
But there is a 10th Mountain Division .
And he said they were angry because they found no WMD's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10t...(United_States) "

There have been articles and pictures of him in the Sandusky Register. The man may still live in Sandusky. I know that his parents do.

Did you say you were in Iraq or that you were under a rock ?

Because apparently you didn't know what was going on OR you weren't important enough to be told.

You " worked " with the 10th , huh ?
Polishing their boots , more than likely.

Darwin's choice

You stupid b*stard! You need to let goof obamas sack, your disrespect of an American soldier is telling, you communist turd!

obama/failing

jazzbo

Darwin's deuce -

I quoted an American soldier from the 10th Mountain Division.

You must be in love with KnuckleNutz - when's the wedding ?

I was in the Army , how about YOU showing ME a little respect ?

I know you weren't in the service because you are too seriously eff - uped in the head.

The Big Dog's back

They got the info from us sam, duh.

Contango

Re: "They got the info from us sam, duh."

Blathering nonsense.

Sure the Mossad and others rely solely on the U.S. for their intel. lol.

The Big Dog's back

bush quote, "you are either with us or against us".

Contango

Re: "bush quote,"

Out of context and irrelevant to your dumbed-down Obama-speak anal probe point, porky.

jazzbo

Bush was a tough talking pipsqueak.

Darwin's choice

obamas IS a gay sissy!

obama/failed

jazzbo

I have wondered what you look like , Deuce.

You probably look stupid and breathe with your mouth open.

Gardenman

I am a Democrat and support Obama but I don't think the US can keeping taking and taking the world's cast offs. Be they children or adults. Geesh we pay the brunt of war on terrorism in lives of US soldiers and dollars, we give foreign aid like it's going out of style and now we take every kid who arrives at our border with a sad story.

I am sorry I am humane and considerate of others but we just can't keep paying for the ills of every other nation in the world.

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Thank you, Gardenman. I appreciate this not because it's a "party gotcha", but because it comes across as sincere and wanting to help an entity with which you otherwise agree. You have really made my day.

Dr. Information

Until 2012, around 4000 illegal children have crossed our border unaccompanied.
Enter Obama and his executive order and waalaaa, now we have a crisis. Nearly 40K this year.

You liberals love him, pay for it.

SamAdams

Re: "You liberals love him, pay for it."

I completely agree. Let the multi-millionaire Clintons and Obamas step up. Let the "ooooooh, but the poor children!" Big Dog, Coasterfan, et al open THEIR doors. Let A.J. Oliver -- who thinks America and most Americans are pretty much just evil and don't want to share -- donate HIS money! Me? I'm tapped out thanks to all of the government nonsense involving paying for things it shouldn't be doing in the first place!

In the interim: NO MORE FOREIGN AID for non-allied countries. NO MORE REWARDING PEOPLE FOR CRIMES, even if they ARE children. Oh, and secure the dam#ed border, already!

KnuckleDragger

LOL. That blowhard AJ Oliver would never put up his money. If he did, he would no longer be able to afford his pontificating sessions at the Sandusky Yacht Club.

The Big Dog's back

sam, I have a deal for you. You Repubs pay for the wars bush strted and us Dems will take care of the children. How's that sound?

SamAdams

Okay, here's the deal: I agree to pay for all of the things the government is constitutionally obligated to provide (which does, as it happens, include defense as well as border control). YOU agree to pay for everything else. Guess who goes broke first? Here's a hint: It's NOT the one of us that stays most free!

There's a series of books I read some years ago called the "Ashes" series. It's about a post-apocalyptic America (the aftermath of a nasty and often fatal virus, in case you wanted to know). The survivors end up in what amounts to two different countries. One calls itself The United States of America. It's populated mostly by surviving politicians and big city liberals. The other calls itself the Tri-States and is comprised primarily of pro-freedom conservatives who form a government based on the original US Constitution. The books become particularly entertaining when you see how many of the USA citizens try to sneak into the TSA. Seems too many of them "need" handouts the government can't afford and, when they see the folks on the other side of the border eating well, they head on over. Of course, the TSA kicks out anybody who's not willing to work for their keep and who doesn't respect the rights of others.

The books were entertaining when I read them the first time around. Now they're starting to seem prescient!

Dr. Information

You mean the war 99% of Congress and the nation supported little puppy?

The Big Dog's back

In the Senate, the 21 Democrats, one Republican and one Independent who courageously voted their consciences in 2002 against the War in Iraq were:

* Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii)
* Jeff Bingaman (D-New Mexico)
* Barbara Boxer (D-California)
* Robert Byrd (D-West Virginia)
* Lincoln Chaffee (R-Rhode Island)
* Kent Conrad (D-North Dakota)
* Jon Corzine (D-New Jersey)
* Mark Dayton (D-Minnesota)
* Dick Durbin (D-Illinois)
* Russ Feingold (D-Wisconsin)
* Bob Graham (D-Florida)
* Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii)
* Jim Jeffords (I-Vermont)
* Ted Kennedy (D-Massachusetts)
* Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont)
* Carl Levin (D-Michigan)
* Barbara Mikulski (D-Maryland)
* Patty Murray (D-Washington)
* Jack Reed (D-Rhode Island)
* Paul Sarbanes (D-Maryland)
* Debbie Stabenow (D-Michigan)
* The late Paul Wellstone (D-Minnesota)
* Ron Wyden (D-Oregon)

The Big Dog's back

Six House Republicans and one independent joined 126 Democratic members of the House of Re[resentatives in voting NAY, on October 11, 2002, to the unprovoked use of force against Iraq:

Neil Abercrombie (D-Hawaii) Tom Allen (D-Maine) Joe Baca (D-California) Brian Baird (D-Washington) John Baldacci (D-Maine, now governor of Maine) Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisconsin) Gresham Barrett (R-South Carolina) Xavier Becerra (D-California) Earl Blumenauer (D-Oregon) David Bonior (D-Michigan, retired from office) Robert Brady (D-Pennsylvania) Corinne Brown (D-Florida) Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio)
Lois Capps (D-California) Michael Capuano (D-Massachusetts) Benjamin Cardin (D-Maryland) Julia Carson (D-Indiana) William Clay, Jr. (D-Missouri) Eva Clayton (D-North Carolina, retired from office) James Clyburn (D-South Carolina) Gary Condit (D-California, retired from office) John Conyers, Jr. (D-Michigan) Jerry Costello (D-Illinois) William Coyne (D-Pennsylvania, retired from office) Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland)
Susan Davis (D-California) Danny Davis (D-Illinois) Peter DeFazio (D-Oregon) Diana DeGette (D-Colorado) Bill Delahunt (D-Massachusetts) Rosa DeLauro (D-Connecticut) John Dingell (D-Michigan) Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas) Mike Doyle (D-Pennsylvania) John Duncan, Jr. (R-Tennessee)
Anna Eshoo (D-California) Lane Evans (D-Illinois) Sam Farr (D-California) Chaka Fattah (D-Pennsylvania) Bob Filner (D-California) Barney Frank (D-Massachusetts) Charles Gonzalez (D-Texas) Luis Gutierrez (D-Illinois)
Alice Hastings (D-Florida) Earl Hilliard (D-Alabama, retired from office) Maurice Hinchey (D-New York) Ruben Hinojosa (D-Texas) Rush Holt (D-New Jersey) Mike Honda (D-California) Darlene Hooley (D-Oregon) John Hostettler (R-Indiana) Amo Houghton (R-New York, retired from office) Jay Inslee (D-Washington)

The Big Dog's back

99%? You obviously failed math doc.

Donegan

You mean the wars Hillary voted to wage? You can pay for both hypocrite.

The Big Dog's back

done again is done again. Those facts just get in the way of what's in your head.

Contango

Re: "done again is done again."

Irrelevant blather as to which Dems and Repubs voted against it.

58% of Senate Dems voted for it - get over it, porky.

Donegan

You want to elect someone who voted FOR the war as a new president.
The fact is Hillary is a warmonger and you are a hypocrite.

jazzbo

Nothing like provocation from a fool like you , Dumb again.

OMG.LOL.WT_

Oh, now it's going to cost too much. Too bad they didn't think of that when they passed the law back during the Bush administration and besides,they need the money to investigate Bengahzi.

jazzbo

They need the money for witch hunts .

Darwin's choice

Here's a witch hunt for you....

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/0...

The Big Dog's back

fux news? Oh yeah, that's reliable goof.

jazzbo

Darwin's deuce -

Give me a real link from a real reliable source.

Not a fear mongering ,bottom feeding , propaganda machine like Fox News that you suck up without even thinking.

Donegan

Pretty sad you still do not know how to use the internet. Just another reason why everyone knows you people are slow. Mexican gangs are flooding the border and your god has failed at his most important job (Guarding the border) Own it.
Google is more than a word.

Darwin's choice

"azzbo" the communist muslim suck-up!

jazzbo

Dumb again and Darwin's deuce -

According to Wikipedia , the MS-13 are NOT flooding in from Mexico.
In fact they are spreading out FROM the United States.
MS-13 originated in the United States and are composed of Cental Americans---NOT Mexicans !

You two are rock-hard fools. LOL !!!

Keep watching that Fox News and drinking that Koolaid-- you poor dumb bastards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar...

Erie County Resident

$3.7 billion to bolster up our border, no problem.
$3.7 billion to create more hand out programs, big problem.
The illegals are coming out of the detention centers to protest. Fine start right there, load them on buses and send them ALL back over the border.

The part of "illegal" seems to escape the vocabulary of the liberals.

OMG.LOL.WT_

What? Break the law? Did you read the article? "The policy changes in question concern a 2008 law aimed at helping victims of human trafficking that appears to be contributing to the current crisis by ensuring court hearings for the children now arriving from Central America. In practice, that often allows them to stay in this country for years as their cases wend their way through the badly backlogged immigration court system, and oftentimes they never show up for their court dates."

KnuckleDragger

They are nothing more that useful idiots for liberals. Most can't speak 2 words in English yet if you notice all of their signs are in English. Liberals are probably standing outside the detention camps handing them signs on the way out.

Contango

Re: "sending the kids home quickly without immigration hearings could put them at risk."

The progressive-socialist-Democrats need to send passenger jets all over the world and find as many poverty stricken men, women and children as possible and bring them to the U.S. for FREE food, clothing, housing, medical care and education.

Open the flood gates America!

FORWARD SOVIET!

Contango

Re: U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops: "If the changes go through, 'They'll be sent back to their persecutors with no help whatsoever, and possibly to their deaths.'"

The Catholic Church is the largest private land owner in the WORLD!

Sell some of that property and care for the impoverished.

"Jesus answered, 'If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.'" (MT 19:21)

Hypocrites.

The Big Dog's back

Same deal goes for you that I gave sam.

Contango

Re: "deal"?

Idiotic fantasy.

Dr. Information

Pay up liberals! Where are your pocketbooks when you open you mouth, or better yet, are you libs calling down to the border and telling them you are offering free room and board for life at your house here in Ohio?

Come on libs, put up or shut up.

The Big Dog's back

Pay up right wingnuts. Your wars, you pay for them.

Contango

Re: "you pay for them,"

Sec. of State Kerry and Ms. Clinton are wealthy and they among other Dems voted for the Iraq Resolution.

In your idiotic fantasy, why not confiscate their wealth, porky?

wasthere

Don't you find it amusing that when jizzbo is called out on his "facts", he resorts to the slams and name calling? A childs mind.

jazzbo

I explained what happened. Its not my fault that you cant comprehend.