Bundy's son: Las Vegas shooters kicked off ranch

Married couple accused of killing three people, including two officers at point-blank range
Associated Press
Jun 9, 2014

 

The married couple who police say killed three people in Las Vegas, including two officers, had been kicked off a ranch where anti-government protesters faced down federal agents earlier this year, rancher Cliven Bundy's son said Monday.

Ammon Bundy told The Associated Press that Jerad and Amanda Miller were asked to leave his father's ranch after being there for a few days this spring.

He said that while details were still sketchy, the Millers' conduct was the problem. He called the couple "very radical" and said they did not "align themselves" with the protest's main issues.

"Not very many people were asked to leave," he said. "I think they may have been the only ones."

Police said earlier Monday that they were looking into whether the Millers were at the Nevada ranch during the standoff.

Assistant Sheriff Kevin McMahill said the two suspects had ideology that was along the lines of "militia and white supremacists" and that law enforcement was the "oppressor."

Police believe the shootings were an isolated act and officers were still looking for a motive, McMahill said.

The two officers were having lunch Sunday at a pizza buffet in a strip mall when the Millers fatally shot them at point-blank range.

The attack at a CiCi's Pizza killed officers Alyn Beck, 41, and Igor Soldo, 31, who were both husbands and fathers. Jerad Miller yelled, "This is a revolution!" McMahill said.

Both suspects fired multiple shots into Beck. They then placed a note, a yellow flag that said "Don't tread on me," and a swastika on the officers' bodies, McMahill said at a news conference.

The deadly rampage in the aging shopping center about 5 miles northeast of the Las Vegas Strip unfolded in a matter of minutes.

The suspects then fled on foot to a nearby Wal-Mart, where Jerad Miller fired a single shot upon entering, police said. A patron at the store who carried a firearm confronted Jerad Miller, not realizing that he was accompanied by Amanda Miller, who shot and killed the man, police said. He was identified as 31-year-old Joseph Wilcox of Las Vegas.

"Joseph died trying to protect others," Sheriff Doug Gillespie said.

As terrified customers fled the store, the Millers went to the rear and hunkered down for a firefight with police, McMahill said. Though they exchanged gunfire, ultimately, Amanda Miller shot and killed her husband, and then shot herself, police said.

Police were called at 11:22 a.m. to the pizzeria. Shots were reported five minutes later at the Wal-Mart.

Bundy and his supporters, some of them armed militia members, thwarted a Bureau of Land Management roundup of his cattle near Bunkerville in April. The BLM says Bundy owes more than $1 million in grazing fees and penalties for trespassing without a permit over 20 years, but he refuses to acknowledge federal authority on public lands.

Ammon Bundy said his family "has had no quarrel" with Las Vegas police and disavowed the Millers' actions.

"The only thing worse than tyranny is anarchy, and we certainly recognize that," Bundy said.

The Millers moved to the Las Vegas area in January, police said. Amanda Miller had worked at a Hobby Lobby craft store in Las Vegas, the chain store said in a written statement, but was no longer employed there.

Jerad Miller, 31, was convicted of felony vehicle theft in Washington state, police said. He also had a criminal record in Indiana.

Miller and his 22-year-old wife were married in August 2012, according to a marriage license on file in Indiana.

Comments

The Big Dog's back

More right wing nuttery. And more to come.

Donegan

My parrot has a larger vocabulary than you. My parrot also has more brains than you but that's besides the point.

rottnrog

Maybe you better listen to the parrot and some of its brains may rub off on you !!!!! ;o)

Bottom Line

Well said donegan. The same 2-3 words over and over again. I think my end table has a broader vocabulary to be honest.

looking around

Your end table is the only one you can hold a conversation with.

deertracker

LOL!

anthras

Re:"More right wing nuttery. And more to come."

There have been conservatives that have done shootings and also there have been loonie left wing nuts that have also done shootings. Actually I feel that it is arduous to class them in either category I think that the only category to place them in is mentally disturbed or possibly addicted to drugs.

In many cased the persons do own guns however not concealed carry permit holders. I do feel that a person does have a right to own a gun however I also feel that there should be a background check for mental illness and previous drug usage and if a person is clean they should not have any objections to a drug test at the time of purchasing a gun.

It is unfortunate that the person that had the gun and was attempting to stop them was killed.

Dr. Information

Def. an Obama voter. They didn't get their way in life so they blow up.

Pterocarya frax...

So the 3 victims of this couple all had guns. I guess that proves Wayne LaPierre wrong, and never can the argument be used again that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

getit right be4...

Isn't a cop a good guy with a gun?

Pterocarya frax...

Umm...the cops are dead. They clearly didn't stop the bad guy.

getit right be4...

So the 2 bad guys with guns killed all the cop? I must have read the story wrong. Maybe I should learn to read so as the story fits my needs and stop letting the facts get in the way.

Pterocarya frax...

In case you are having comprehension problems, let me simplify it for you.

These 2 killers walked into the pizza place and put a bullet in the head of a cop. When the other cop tried to pull his gun, they murdered him too. Then they went to the Wal-Mart and when a patron challenged them with his gun, they killed him too.

Then they went to the back of the store and she killed him and then herself. So in this case, the only thing that stopped a bad guy with a gun, was a bad girl with a gun.

Understand now?

jazzbo

@ Pterocarya frax

...thumbs up

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The Hero Zone

WARNING!!! INCOMING BLATHER! WARNING!!!

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If only we cut the penises off of every male child when they were born there would be less rape in this country, too. So it seems logical that if we take away all guns then murder would also diminish to nonexistence.
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I get your gist, Pter, but I think that ambushing two police officers on break and who (I'll go on a limb and presume) aren't trained to shoot first when a conflict arises is a disingenuous comparison to what the head of the NRA said. It was the same where an ambush too place at the Wally World. This wasn't a cowboys-n-injuns shootout at a fort surrounded by trees and obstacles. Good guys did in fact try to stop the bad guys and in so doing died so others didn't have to at the insanity of these two lunatics.

Perhaps in that final moment (but not redeeming herself) the woman actually had a "good" thought and knew it was futile to go on? So this woman who turned "good" for only a moment used her gun for the good of society and the lives of every other citizen and officer and ended her and her husband's anarchistic rampage that, despite Big Dog's implications, would be sanctioned by neither "wing".

Maybe Mr. LaPierre's words could still be half-true here? You and I always have good exchanges, Pter, so take this as my offering to you for rebuttal if you'd like. If nothing else we can always ask...

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Are we castrating all live birth males or not? It's about time we stop rape. It's 2014. We have the technology. Heck it's only $60/pop at the Humane Society I think. I can find a form letter for us to send to Sen. Brown or something. With less men in total let alone producing testosterone I bet we can save a great many lives from enduring the truly horrible act of rape, hormone-fueled violence/decision making, and we can even reduce our population so we don't pollute as much.

Pretty good trifecta for justifying and instituting Precrime (as grotesque and Swiftian as it is).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre...

rottnrog

And the guy at Walmart would probably be alive if he wouldn't have pulled out his gun !!!

anthras

Re:"So the 3 victims of this couple all had guns. I guess that proves Wayne LaPierre wrong, and never can the argument be used again that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

If a persons would really think about it there are normally always exceptions to the facts. I do agree that it is wrong to feel that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. I do think that a timely myocardial infraction would stop a bad guy with a gun and that would certainly be an exception.

However if I find myself in the presence of a bad guy with a gun I would hope there is also a good guy with a gun there.

Factitious

The right-wing extremists have a lot of guns. Most organization that call themselves "militia" are nothing of the sort; they just call themselves that to hide behind the second amendment (A well regulated militia...?) but they're really seditionists preparing to battle the government of We the People, rather than support it.

Cliven Bundy, who we can thank for the Bundy Ranch Standoff, in which he roused support from some of the "militias" for his seditious stand against BLM agents, has stated that he does not recognize the United State government.

The Bundys are obviously now trying to distance themselves from these seditionists whom they formerly embraced. But it's a ruse.

"I abide by all Nevada state laws. But I don't recognize the United States government as even existing."
- Cliven Bundy

ref: http://www.theguardian.com/comme...

If you're a peace-loving, reasonable person and you're not worried, you don't know what's going on.

http://www.theguardian.com/world...

mikeylikesit

so much warmth and brotherly love in this forum! i love this place!

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2cents

They were just nut cases, and these people will continue forever in our society. What is the story here other than the random act of violence. If you follow any Cleveland news there is a shooting, stabbing and people are dead about every day. Hell, I was just a block from a shooting last week over by Bellaire, you local people have no clue what goes on day to day outside what this paper SHARES!

deertracker

Agreed!

Darwin's choice

Friday 6/6 thru monday 6/9 there were 7 killed and 28 seriously wounded in obama's hometown, with strict "no gun" laws!!!

This is a weekly occurrence, demcrats are supposed to be in control,right?

Hahahahahaha!!!

obama/failing

Contango

Nut jobs - end of story.

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"The only thing worse than tyranny is anarchy, and we certainly recognize that,"

- Ammon Bundy

Great quote.

Even the Declaration of Independence says that it's OK to have a Revolution:

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

Federalism NOT Anti-Federalism.

Contango

H*ll, the Federal Govt. owns approx. 50% of the land area west of the Mississippi.

The Feds need to deed it to the States. Or sell it and help pay down Fed debt.

http://i.imgur.com/LkIX9.jpg?1

Peninsula Pundit

Since your comment is on an article about how a couple 'nut jobs' were on the Bundy's ranch and Bundy is a right wing 'nut job' who thinks he shouldn't have to pay the government for land he is grazing his cattle on and you, as well as Bundy, don't think the gov't should own the land, it would seem we could draw a rather straight line conclusion as to where your sympathies lie, does it not?
Just connect the dots.

Dr. Information

Amen on the land Contango.

KURTje

Factious you are right. Those militia types seem to have some agenda that have to pursue.

Donegan

How "Free " is a country when the land is owned? Spoiler: its not free at all.