Obama vows fix to veterans' health care troubles

"I will not stand for it — not as commander in chief but also not as an American"
Associated Press
May 21, 2014

 

With outrage mounting over veterans' health care, President Barack Obama declared Wednesday that allegations of misconduct at VA hospitals will not be tolerated, and he left open the possibility that Secretary Eric Shinseki, a disabled war veteran, could be held to account.

"I will not stand for it — not as commander in chief but also not as an American," Obama said following an Oval Office meeting with the embattled Shinseki.

Congress moved to keep up the pressure on the administration, with the House set for an evening vote on a measure that would give the VA secretary more authority to fire or demote senior hospital executives. The White House said it supported the goal of seeking greater accountability at the VA but had unspecified concerns about the legislation.

The growing furor surrounding the Department of Veterans Affairs centers on allegations of treatment delays and preventable deaths at VA hospitals. The department's inspector general's office says 26 facilities are being investigated nationwide, including a Phoenix hospital facing allegations that 40 people died while waiting for treatment and staff kept a secret list of patients in order to hide delays in care.

The allegations have raised fresh concerns about the administration's management of a department that has been struggling to keep up with the influx of new veterans returning home from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama's comments Wednesday — his first on the matter in more than two weeks — signaled a greater urgency by the White House to keep the matter from spiraling into a deeper political problem in a midterm election year.

"We are going to fix whatever is wrong, and so long as I have the privilege of serving as commander in chief, I'm going to keep on fighting to deliver the care and the benefits and the opportunities that you and your families deserve, now and for decades to come," Obama said.

Yet the president's remarks did little to quell the criticism of both the VA troubles and his own handling of the matter.

Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain, a former prisoner of war, said Obama's comments were "wholly insufficient in addressing the fundamental, systemic problems plaguing our veterans' health care system." And the American Legion, the nation's largest veterans service organization, said Obama was making an "unfortunate" decision by keeping Shinseki at the helm of the VA.

"Words are nice, and even somewhat comforting, but when will the VA's house be cleansed of those who are soiling it and dishonoring the system?" American Legion National Commander Daniel M. Dellinger said in a statement.

Several GOP lawmakers also are seeking Shinseki's resignation, as are Georgia Reps. John Barrow and David Scott, who on Wednesday became the first Democrats to call for the secretary to step down. Barrow is facing one of the most challenging re-election fights of any House Democrat.

Shinseki, a retired Army four-star general, did not appear with the president publicly Wednesday. While Obama spoke of the secretary warmly, saying he had put his "heart and soul" into improving care for the nation's veterans, he added that there would be "accountability throughout the system" if the allegations are proven true.

The White House's more immediate concern appears to be quickly getting the results of the VA's internal reviews of the hospital troubles. Shinseki is due to give Obama a preliminary report next week, with a broader review being overseen by White House deputy chief of staff Rob Nabors scheduled to wrap up in June.

Nabors, who also took part in the Oval Office meeting with Shinseki, headed to Phoenix on Wednesday to meet with staff at the VA hospital that is at the center of the allegations.

The current director of the Phoenix VA Health Care System, Sharon Helman, has been placed on leave while the VA's inspector general investigates the claims raised by several former VA employees. Investigators probing the claims say they have so far not linked any patient deaths in Phoenix to delayed care. A report is due in August.

Last year, Helman was awarded a $9,345 bonus in addition to her $169,000 annual salary. Shinseki rescinded the bonus on Wednesday, the VA said. A spokesman said the bonus had been awarded through an administrative error.

On Capitol Hill, House lawmakers were taking up a bill that would give the VA secretary more power to discipline the 450 career employees who serve as hospital directors or executives in the agency's 21 regions.

Rep. Jeff Miller, R-Fla., chairman of the House Veterans Affairs Committee, sponsored the measure, saying VA officials who have presided over mismanagement or negligence are more likely to receive bonuses or glowing performance reviews than any sort of punishment.

The VA's "widespread and systemic lack of accountability is exacerbating all of its most pressing problems," Miller said.

Meanwhile, two Republican senators introduced legislation to prohibit payment of bonuses to employees at the Veterans Health Administration through next year. Sens. Richard Burr of North Carolina and Deb Fischer of Nebraska said the VA should focus its spending on fixing problems at the agency, "not rewarding employees entrenched in a failing bureaucracy." Burr is the senior Republican on the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, and Fischer is on the Senate Armed Services Committee. Both have called for Shinseki to step down.

The House passed a bill in February that would eliminate performance bonuses for the department's senior executive staff through 2018.

Comments

freespeech1

Yeah we seen what u did with obamacare . Will you just resign already ! Goes to show you a community organizer should not be president.

MiddleRight

He'll figure out how to fix it when the press reports it. That's apparently how he learns everything else.

Maggdi

I seem to remember a Senator pointedly criticizing then President Bush for the deplorable conditions our veterans were dealing with in the Veteran's administration during the 2008 election cycle. And that this Senator said he knew how to fix it!
I know now why HE is disappointed with the world. It's SO hard to find good help! And he never finds out about anything until you and I do!
Doesn't bode well for his ability to fix the ACA'S troubles...
Of course the thought crossed my mind that by the time we all are involve in government health care he'll be on his way out or gone and then who will help us!?!

Pete

"I, uh, promise to, uh, fix this matter, uh, right after I uh, play a round of, uh, golf with some 1% campaign, uh, donors"

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The Hero Zone

(Incoming sarcasm) Woah woah woah, you mean that "middle class" and "working class" people don't go to his $10,000/plate fundraising dinners? Those same people who have to have government-issued IDs, too, to pass security clearance? Are you implying, Pete, that our President only goes to the mansions of the super-wealthy (and of those only of the people in his party as he doesn't seem to care about others who aren't Democrats) and doesn't visit the same people he claims to help yet are continuing to flounder?

I find that hard to believe, it makes no sense why he'd do that sort of thing when he keeps telling us that that isn't what he's all about. It's like saying you needed a special pass to see him at his ice cream social in Sandusky. I mean come on, how could that happen?

If we look at his schedule you'll see that he only attended Democratic (not of the people/little-d democracy, that's the capital-D/of the party only) events this Monday, last Wednesday, and the Wednesday/Thursday before that.

Huh...guess I may have been wrong. Thanks for the eye-opener Pete!

The Big Dog's back

You and pete, now that's a match made in right wingnut land.

freespeech1

Your like a bad B movie. You always rear your irrelevant head and nobody cares.. you really need some new material puppy poo

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The Hero Zone

Please let me know how many poor people who can't even get government IDs (which must be some astronomical yet unmeasurable number according to comments on other topics) attend our President's one-party-only fundraisers. You are welcome to check our President's schedule yourself and see if I am incorrect in any of the things I have said about attending fundraisers four times in three weeks.

Now why would he only represent one party when he is supposed to represent us all? He is MY president, too, you know.

I would really enjoy a President who promotes democracy, not Democratic policy. Does that make sense?

Stop It

Big Dog's claim to fame. "you are a rightwingnut and I called it, and no changes."

Seven year old kids use that lingo.

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The Hero Zone

Hey it looks like we are up to five Democrat events in three weeks he's gone to. This one is at a private residence in Chicago no less. I wonder if it is someone from the "middle class" he's visiting? He sure is angry about all the things going wrong in this country. He just won't stand for them.

10:00 AM
The President receives the Presidential Daily Briefing
Oval Office
Closed Press
10:45 AM
The President meets with travel and tourism industry CEO’s and senior executives
Roosevelt Room
Pool Spray
1:05 PM
The President departs the White House
South Lawn
Open Press
1:20 PM
The President departs Joint Base Andrews
Joint Base Andrews
Travel Pool Coverage
2:30 PM
The President arrives in New York
Griffis International Airport
Open Press
3:25 PM
The President tours the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum
Cooperstown
Travel Pool Coverage
3:55 PM
The President delivers remarks at the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum
Cooperstown
Pooled Press
4:55 PM
The President departs New York
Griffiss International Airport
Open Press
6:50 PM
The President arrives in Chicago, Illinois
Local Event Time: 5:50 PM
Chicago O’Hare International Airport
Open Press
8:00 PM
The President attends a DSCC reception
Local Event Time: 7:00 PM
Private Residence - Chicago
Print Pool
9:25 PM
The President delivers remarks and answers questions at a DSCC dinner
Local Event Time: 8:25 PM
Private Residence - Chicago
Print Pool

Looks like he is spending as much or more time at this private residence fundraising for a party that doesn't reflect the entirety of the nation he is supposed to serve than doing other things in the day. He sure does work hard for only a small portion of our entire country but for things like an apolitical entity such as baseball? Half hour.

JACKEL

Please, No !

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The Hero Zone

10:00 AM
The President meets with Secretary Shinseki and Rob Nabors
Oval Office | Show Details
Closed Press
10:45 AM
The President delivers a statement
Press Briefing Room
Open Press
11:35 AM
The President participates in an Ambassador Credentialing Ceremony
Oval Office
Closed Press
2:10 PM
The President honors the Super Bowl Champion Seattle Seahawks
East Room
Open to pre-credentialed media
4:10 PM
The President delivers remarks on the Organ Mountains-Desert Peaks National Monument Designation
Department of the Interior
Open to pre-credentialed media

After starting the day again at 10:00 it seems he won't stand for more than an hour or so before standing for longer periods of times at other events. To be fair to him this isn't his fault directly, but rather evidence of what happens in bureaucratic environments. The lessons of the VA were very clearly never considered nor incorporated with those who also didn't read the ACA before passing it.

The solution as detailed in another article? We need more agencies and more government to watch the government we put in place.

Where does it stop? This could be fixed in many other ways than "more government". For instance, a voucher system that lets veterans go to their local hospital or a hospital/doctor of their choice. It empowers the individual and is a market-driven solution than a top-down...this, what we have now.

Princess Leia to Governor Tarkin aboard the Death Star: The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.

Unfortunately in this case we're talking about human lives firstly and tax dollars secondly. Both of which are valuable resources we need to foster in our states and country.

grumpy

Would you please stop writing so persuasively and eloquently and just make a 2 or 3 sentence rant while throwing in wingnuts, Kooh brothers, and such things? You are making it hard for piddle puppy to respond. The best he will come up with is 'That is a bogus argument.' Which is a shame because you are not arguing. I envy you your writhing ability, and being able to make your points so well... That I agree with them is a bonus for me.

The Big Dog's back

You 2 need to get a room.

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The Hero Zone

You are welcome to use correct English and write your own comments based on your own experiences. One that is well-cited and in the benefit for the entirety of the population and not just one party. Or you can continue to lean to your left and fart out petty one-liners that do nothing to advance society, philosophy, critical thinking, original thought, or humanity at large.

You are a sovereign human being who by the grace of our civil society is presumed before incident to have dignity and a sense of morals and respect. It is up to you to throw those away or foster them as you please. So comment how you please, but it seems as if you are not reaching out to people to win their hearts and minds for the cause of humanity, little-d democracy, or even convincing people to join the ranks of big-D Democrats.

EDIT: Don't think you are the only one, nor the only one who waves a donkey flag. There are others here who attempt to communicate though sexual references, an utter failure to cite any sources, and/or name-calling which is an equally-failing strategy. I'm not blind to those people and as you can see very rarely interact with them save for when our paths cross. It's just as disappointing when I try to make a point "from the right" (which, really, isn't) then have others give it support by making inappropriate comments such as sexual remarks.

Maggdi

Bravo!

jazzbo

bs

The Big Dog's back

Exactly.

KnuckleDragger

In piddle puppies defense, it's hard for him to type more than one sentence in a sitting since his stroke after the Repubs took control of the House. He'll likely lose the rest of his faculties once the Dems also lose the Senate in the upcoming elections.

There you go again

There is nothing that an Obama supporter can say to defend this "president" in charge of our country. Gee, he talks the talk but......how about walking the walk? Come on people, this man is so full of hot air I fear he might blow away....right back to Kenya.

Maggdi

Is that why it's so quiet here?
Prime time and the only "defender" is the resident pooch?

freespeech1

On a peanut farm in Georgia there is a former president by the name of jimmy carter who is breathing a sigh of relief knowing he isn't the worst president anymore

Maggdi

Some people's worst fears from 2009 have been realized.

The Big Dog's back

Yep, right wingnut land went bonkers when a Black President got elected. Glad you see it too.

freespeech1

Well I knew it wouldn't be long before the race card was thrown, thanks puppy poo you just showed everyone that you are that ignorant. When you have no good argument, race is all you have, and too bad its lame as hell.

wasthere

That just about sums up the intelligence of BigDog. You see it every day on here. He cannot put together a sentence without using the words "right wingnut". When that fails to strike a nerve, he plays the race card.

KnuckleDragger

See what I mean? Coasterfan in a previous post throws out fox news. His sidekick piddle pupply throws out the race card, now all we need is for one of the other resident kooks to throw out the Bush blame and we will have the trifecta.

GoBigLex2001

Anytime he tries to "fix" something its a mulch-trillion dollar taxpayer funded failure

Anytime he assures or promises something, its never fulfilled.

jazzbo

..........and we were told by the Bush Administration that Iraqi oil would pay for the war.

freespeech1

See were changing topic and blaming bush lmao you lefties are so pathetic. When all else fails blame bush lol

jazzbo

I was replying to GoBigLex2001 's statement of :
"Anytime he assures or promises something, its never fulfilled."

Well ? Did it happen ? Did we get payed back with oil as promised ?

freespeech1

Well being this story is on Obama, staying on topic might be the right thing to do, being this has nothing to do with the Iraq war.

Pete

Shhh... don't confuse him. It is all Bush's fault. It cannot be Obama's.

So it is written, therefore, so it shall be.

jazzbo

@ freespeech1

I was replying to GoBigLex2001 's statement of :
"Anytime he ( Obama ) assures or promises something, its never fulfilled."

He brought up the topic of promises and I countered him.
I was in context with him and with this article ( we are talking about Obama, right ? ).
Basicly, it was between him and me --- not you.

Get it now ?

Smcc Alum

,

Smcc Alum

Jazzbo,

Bringing up events from years ago does not justify what your messiah is doing now. Bush wasn't perfect. We already know that. Obama spent his first 4 years telling America it was Bush's fault. How long can you dwell on the past without resolving anything in the present? Please don't vote in the next election if "It's Bush's fault" is your reasoning.

jazzbo

@ Smcc Student

I was replying to GoBigLex2001 's statement of :
"Anytime he ( Obama ) assures or promises something, its never fulfilled."

He brought up the topic of promises and I countered him.

Is the talk of: not fulfilling assurances or promises - NOT bringing up , referring to , or dwelling on , the past ?

Please don't vote in the next election if you can't see that it's Bush's "residue" that's destroying this USA.

Get it now ?

Smcc Alum

You posted it on a newspaper forum. Your comments are between you and everyone else who views them. Besides, your point is irrelevant.

jazzbo

You should think before you comment on comments.

jazzbo

Besides, my point is relevant and valid.

The Big Dog's back

Yes it is.

The Big Dog's back

smcc non student, why do you refer to yourself as a "student" when you're 60+ years old?

Smcc Alum

I exercise my ability to think every time I comment.

And dog, I graduate june 1st. I've had this account for about 4 years. What makes you think I am 60 years old?

jazzbo

You'd better exercise harder.

Smcc Alum

^ Does anyone else see the irony of this comment?

Jazzbo, you're right. Clearly you are at the apex of your ability to think.

Itttt $HOws Hw HARDD O''' Uhh ThINkuhh U R

Edit: My grammar is horrible.

jazzbo

Little boy , are you graduating to 1st grade?

Smcc Alum

How did you know?!

jazzbo

"You'd better exercise harder." = You had better exercise harder.

Failed English , huh ?

Smcc Alum

I struggle.

Edit: I blame Bush for my poor grammar.

jazzbo

This one is on you.

Smcc Alum

The Big Dog's back
THU, 05/22/2014 - 8:38AM
Coming from a right wingnut who has never taken responsibility for anything.

IMPOSSIBLE! I could never take responsibility for anything.

KnuckleDragger

^and we have the trifecta.

takeastand

American people are dying on your watch Mr. So called President! What do you have to say for that...more lies....more cover ups... no transparency....no accountability!

The Big Dog's back

Only a right wingnut would think people would stop dying.

deertracker

Really!!!!!! LOL!

KnuckleDragger

I see you're cleaning up piddle puppies poo again.

Donegan

Weird how you seem to rejoice in the demise of fellow citizens. Makes me wonder about you.

Greengiant

I watched the press conference and he spend 5 minutes telling us that Shinseki will be delivering a full report within a month. The next 45 minutes was telling us what a wonderful job his administration has done in reforming all the problems in the VA system......If he spent as much time on the VA problems as he does on planning his vacations and golf schedule we would be in good shape....

deertracker

Give it a rest! The man can go golfing! GEEZ!!!

Contango

Re: "Secretary Eric Shinseki"

He should do the 'honorable' thing and resign.

deertracker

I Disagree!

Contango

Re: "I Disagree!"

Gosh, I must say that IS a VERY convincing argument. :)

And I disagree with your disagreement.

deertracker

Just an opinion pooh, not an argument. There's no reason for him to resign. None!

Contango

Re: "There's no reason for him to resign. None!"

More proof that public bureaucracy exudes incompetency and ineptitude because sycophants tolerate it.

Bet you'd sing a different tune if your loved one was one of the 40 dead.

deertracker

Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KnuckleDragger

Don't bother with deerturd, his contempt for the military and veterans is well documented. Besides that you and I both know he will stick up for this administration even if the President himself held a gun to his head.

Contango

Re: "allegations of treatment delays and preventable deaths at VA hospitals."

A front row seat preview of U.S. single-payer universal healthcare.

And Rep. Joe Garcia (D-FL) has the nerve to say:

"We’ve proved that Communism works."

lol

Before it's collapse, universal healthcare in the Soviet Union was fraught with overwhelming corruption, fraud, abuse and scandal.

The undeniable truth about big bureaucratic government 'working efficiently' is that it doesn't.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/2...

The Big Dog's back

Fire up the ovens pooh.

Contango

Re: "Fire up the ovens,"

40 people dying while waiting for treatment?

Exactly what your Messiah is overseeing, putz.

Oh, and he's VERY upset. :)

Is he on AFI headed for that Phoenix VA hospital or is he wasting time defending Sec'y Shinseki?

deertracker

Do you really think this just started pooh!? Get over your hate for the President! Truly old!

Contango

Re: "Do you really think this just started"

Is it on HIS watch? Did HE take responsibility?

Your slavish, slobbering defense of continued blatant incompetency is what's "truly old."

The Big Dog's back

Coming from a right wingnut who has never taken responsibility for anything.

Contango

Re: "Coming"

Tsk, tsk. A juvenile personal attack.

That's the best you can do, putz? :)

The Big Dog's back

Truth hurts huh?

Contango

Re: "Truth,"

You couldn't recognize the truth if it fell into your water dish, putz.

Have a nice day rolling in carrion.

deertracker

Please tell me you have not fallen off the wagon........again!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Contango

Re: "Please (snip)"

And this from the bozo that requests only "intelligent and relevant thought"?

lol

deertracker

I was right! You have fallen off the wagon....AGAIN!

The Big Dog's back

Sure looks like it.

Smcc Alum

Putz and bambi are just trolls

The Big Dog's back

And you are ..........

Smcc Alum

Giving my opinion or factual evidence from trusted sources to convey my point in order to open your closed mind.

KnuckleDragger

Remember Contango, It's Bush's fault. They can't defend it so instead they've chose to hurl insults. After all the only reason for the criticism is because the President is black. You know the 3 pillars of modern liberal deflection: 1) Fox News, 2) Race Card, 3) It's Bush's fault. The idiot trifecta so to speak.

rippedhippy1

I filed a supplemental claim to the V.A. in regards to my main disability in Sept. 2013. Two weeks ago, I got a letter from them stating they have received my claim. They expect to have a decision for me by March 2015. My V.A. rep says my claim is actually being "fast tracked". I'd sure hate to be on the "slow track"!

AJ Oliver

I've had VA medical care for the past five years. It's mostly good, much better than millions of non-vet Americans get. Hey righties, if the U.S. health care system is so good, why are we 42nd in life expectancy - stat from those radicals at the CIA - https://www.cia.gov/library/publ...
???
People who defend the pre-ACA U.S. health care system are incredibly uninformed - huge costs for mediocre outcomes.
Most of the problems with the ACA are the result of deliberate Republican sabotage.

Contango

Re: "Hey righties, if the U.S. health care system is so good, why are we 42nd in life expectancy"?

@ Hey Lefty:

Ethnic, cultural, religious, racial and lifestyle diversity.

So you're defending this Phoenix VA hospital mess?

So, since it's so "good," could a VA hospital model be adaptable for the entire population?

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I'll happily turn in my report on this as was first done here: http://www.sanduskyregister.com/...

The context was originally comparing U.S. to Canada when looking at the overly-broad and near-worthless statistic of life expectancy in the aggregate.

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That's rather broad, DG, especially given the vaaaaastly different population and geographical statistics between the two countries. But there's always a good opportunity to research. This is what I found:

2010 U.S. Population: 308,745,538 (almost ten times the population of CA)
2011 CA. Population: 32,852,325 (New York City is about half of this amount and California singly has about 6,000,000 more than this)

Almost the entire population of Canada lives in the same geographical zone of "humid continental" with the rest of the landmass and a small portion of the population in "subarctic". In the U.S. the population is spread across about six different zones ranging from "humid subtropical" to "semi-arid/highlands".

The ethnic makeup is vastly different, too. There are more non-white, non-black minorities in total in the U.S. than the entire population of Canada, of which:
White - 86%
Aborignial - 2.8%
Black - 2%
Asian (combined regions) - 7.3%
"Latin America" - .6%
Etc...

And, while it is from simple observation on my part and not professional measure, almost all of Canada's major cities are very close to the U.S. border. Presumably for better climate, business opportunity, and possibly access to medical care as kurt alluded to above. 4% of the Cleveland Clinic's patients alone are foreigners (yet provide 11% of the income).

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For the same bogus way womens' pay differences are reported because it doesn't bother to look at details, only the aggregate, so too does the life expectancy face similar flaws. How many young Canadians have brought down the average because of military deaths in the Middle East? How many less accidents occur in Canada because the population isn't the same in quantity? How many gang deaths mow down young Canadians in big cities? I will add, too, that I don't believe "lack of insurance" is a cause listed on a death certificate.

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I think the disconnect here is that of the list you cite the only nation that attempts to come close to the population of the United States is Japan which still only has one third the population. Less people tends to mean less accidents, less crime, a more homogeneous culture/circumstances, etc. Let's compare the top ten most populated countries against the same Wikipedia chart on life expectancy:

Population/Expectancy Rank - Average Life
1. China (1,364,530,000)/97 - 74.2
2. India (1,244,270,000)/128 - 70
3. United States (318,064,000)/35 - 79.8
4. Indonesia (247,424,598)/117 - 72
5. Brazil (202,578,000)/57 - 76.2
6. Pakistan (186,490,000)/145 - 67
7. Nigeria (173,615,000)/181 - 53
8. Bangladesh (152,518,015)/129 - 70
9. Russia (143,700,000)/124 - 70
10. Japan (127,140,000)/2 - 84.6

Well shucks, it seems that among the top ten most populous countries in the world we are actually in second place for life expectancy very handedly beating out first and second place in terms of population. The closest to us is Brazil in 57th place. Now why does Japan have a higher rate? It could possibly be because of their extremely homogeneous population/culture and access to technology. It also helps that in terms of land mass the country isn't nearly as big. The country alone is about the size of California. We in second place get to incorporate not only that land mass but the other 49 states.

Back to you good sir, exploring this sure is revealing some interesting things that I hope help both of us have a better sense of scope about this issue.

EDIT: So based on the above, here is the actual ranking of life expectancy someone in our nation can actually compare to similarly-sized nations. I'll also add that it would probably be more fair to, in the aggregate, bust out all fifty states independently if you want to compare expectancy globally since most European nations are only geographically/population numbers-wise the same size.

1. Japan (127,140,000)/2 - 84.6
2. United States (318,064,000)/35 - 79.8
3. Brazil (202,578,000)/57 - 76.2
4. China (1,364,530,000)/97 - 74.2
5. Indonesia (247,424,598)/117 - 72
6. Russia (143,700,000)/124 - 70
7. India (1,244,270,000)/128 - 70
8. Bangladesh (152,518,015)/129 - 70
9. Pakistan (186,490,000)/145 - 67
10. Nigeria (173,615,000)/181 - 53

When we take a look at the expectancy ranking of the top ten, let's also look at populations of these places:

Rank. Country (Population)/Expectancy
1. Monaco (36,950)/86.5
2. Japan (127,140,000)/84.6
3. Andorra (76,098)/84.2
4. Singapore (5,399,200)/84
5. Hong Kong (7,219,700)/83.8
6. San Marino (32,646)/83.5
7. Iceland (326,340)/83.3
8. Italy (60,021,955)/83.1
9. Australia (23,495,000)/83
10. Sweden (9,666,871)/83
...
35. United States (318,064,000)/79.8

I'd say we are doing pretty darn good for a country that spans four time zones, has at least six unique climate zones, about every kind of geological biome you can imagine, and a hugely diverse set of ethnicities, cultures, etc. Especially since our population is more than the combined totals of each of the countries above (you'll also notice Monaco has a population only a bit larger than the city of Sandusky).

Here, if you want a better comparison (I've made enough charts for now, just follow the links) take a look at life expectancy by state (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis...) and you'll notice the top ten are all above 80. Compare that to the population of each state, too, if you want: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis...

After that just throw in whatever economic/sociological factors you want.

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There you go, professor, raw data compiled for you without a blink of partisanship which has become an unfortunate constant from you as a man who once was responsible for educating young people. But the best way to overcome such petty bias is to look at each subject broadly and present it as above. Maybe this young'un can give you hope again for humanity and the country.

Also, on another note, just what about the ACA have the Republicans sabotaged? Last I saw this was a purely Democratic party crafted, voted, and implemented project. Last I knew the Republicans were quite feckless in doing anything with this flawed, unread law.

KnuckleDragger

Funny how AJ, a professor at BGSU only spouts Democrat talking points. I hope to God my kids never encounter him as one of their professors.

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The Hero Zone

If I take a class of his and he does this I will be happy to stand up and make my counterpoints loud and proud against his embittered, partisan views for everyone else to see and hear. Especially as he is/was an educator I am disappointed by this. If your kids encounter him, KD, I hope they will do the right thing and stand up to classroom bullies like that. You let them know that I have their backs and they have a right to be free from this junk in the classroom.

If he keeps his political thoughts to himself and teaches his subject that's one thing, but if he's spreading this around (especially in classes that don't warrant it) and requiring its regurgitation to earn a passing grade I would have an issue.

KnuckleDragger

Are you getting care in the same VA system I am? You'll say anything to protect this administration won't you? As for the reason we are 42nd in life expectancy maybe you should do research from somewhere other the CIA. Really? Maybe I should get my information on intelligence from a hospital. We are 42nd due mostly due to poor lifestyle choices, unhealthy habits, etc.

AJ Oliver

The Republicans also sabotaged the VA - and then later blamed Obama for it. (Feb 27th, 2014 - U.S. Senate). These are the same folks who go on and on about personal accountability, but refuse to take any responsibility for their actions. (They also slashed funding for State Dept. security shortly before the Benghazi attack.) And their supporters on the Register blogs also dodge responsibility by being anonymous cowards.

Contango

Re: "anonymous cowards"

“If you are harsh and impolite to a person on an anonymous blog, chances are you are not a particularly brave person.”

- AJ Oliver, 05/09/2014

Obviously the irony is lost on you.

Contango

Re: "slashed funding for State Dept. security shortly before the Benghazi attack"

Funny, the Obama admin. seems to have found the funding to beef up security 'after' the attacks on the Egyptian and other foreign embassy compounds.

These Islamic chuckleheads take great stock in symbolism. Woulda thought that security would have been beefed up PRIOR to Sept. 11.

Nothing like pointing fingers in order to help deflect from Dear Leader's own inexperience and incompetency.

The Benghazi attack was caused by a YouTube video right?

Gotta wonder why the Brits and the Red Cross had pulled out earlier because of perceived danger.

Pres. Obama's sending troops to Chad to help find those school girls.

That's a sad situation, but what the h*ll does that have to do with U.S. national security?

I guess we've got funding for those 'good causes' eh?

AJ Oliver

Contagion, you are a mean person - even to those who agree with you. You also demean local people who have passed away. You revel in knowing and exposing people's private affairs while hiding your identity. I do try to be civil here, but not to you. No how, no way - you coward!!

Contango

Re: "Contagion, you are a mean person,"

Ouch!

You can't argue intelligently and keep to the topic so you resort to ad hominem attacks and personal epithets?

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"I do try to be civil here,"

Yea, it 'glowingly' shows.

You read delusional to me.

deertracker

Pot, meet kettle!

KURTje

AJ Oliver 1. Winnie zero.

Contango

Reality: 1, kurtie: - 5.

Dr. Information

Obama is the opposite of the Midas touch. Everything he touches turns to crap.

jmgthatsme

Obama has got to be the worst president of all time...even worse than Carter. Voted for him the 1st time, his "hope and change and talking" got me. The man holds no one accountable and finds out about scandals...just like we do...from news reports. And then, he does NOTHING to hold anyone accountable. It's unreal and sad and we still have 3 more years of it. Hillary can't come soon enough!

The Big Dog's back

You mean you didn't vote fr him because he was Black?

KnuckleDragger

No, but you did...twice. Shows what an idiot you are.

The Big Dog's back

Well, I have to admit, there is one thing Obama can't fix. He can't fix stupid (right wingnuts).

Contango

"The Graphic Reality of the VA's Funding Woes"

"Per-patient spending has dipped under Obama"

http://www.bloombergview.com/art...

Nor'easter

Obama talked about VA problems and attempted to Blame Bush in 2008 campaign. He needs to resign if he was "surprised after 5 years. The Liar-in Chief needs to Resign NOW!

downthemiddle

Obama expected vets to pay for their war injury treatments after they were discharged.

He was surprised that they expected to be cared for at taxpayer expense, and said "They knew what they were getting into" when they enlisted.

Maybe THAT'S why the VA is such a mess...