Investigation: No merit to accusations against Dunn, other officers

Sandusky police say they found no merit to complaints that off-duty officers harassed family members of accused cop killer Kevin Randleman.
Jessica Cuffman
Jul 19, 2011

 

Sandusky police say they found no merit to complaints that off-duty officers harassed family members of accused cop killer Kevin Randleman.

Three months ago, Denishea George, 33, sent Sandusky police a written complaint, accusing several off-duty officers of using a racial slur and telling her to shut up.

George said she was outside her mother's home in the 800 block of Wayne Street when the officers allegedly yelled at her.

The officers had been visiting the home of Sandusky police Officer Matt Dunn, who lives nearby, according to George's complaint.

George and her mother are related to Kevin Randleman, who is accused of shooting and killing Officer Andrew Dunn, Matt's son.

Comments

The Answer Person

Gee...even if they did.  How tragic would it be to make a comment to someone's family who may or may not have murdered a person while they were working to protect the very people that ultimately do you in?

She has a point, sadly it is on the top of her head.

OHIOHOOSIER76

Denishea, SHUT UP!

Julie R.

Just out of curiosity --- why would the Sandusky police do the investigation into complaints about their own off-duty officers?  Wouldn't that be considered a "conflict of interest?"  Shouldn't they have brought in a fair and impartial 3rd party ---- sort of like the Erie County judges do when they bring in those joke retired double-dippers to act as their mouthpiece?   

Cityslicker

Looks to me like that complaint started with a bunch of assumptions, and no facts.

Sam

Julie R for once I agree with you, that you are curious in your actions. This was a citizens complainant not a criminal complaint against an officer, its normal operating procedure to do an in house investigation under those circumstances. Once again you show you gross ignorance and you remain DISINHERITED......

The General

I would have to agree whole heartily with OHIOHOOSIER, and might also point out that The Answer Person says comments of ....."who may or may not have murdered a person" is quite politically correct, Randleman IS A COPKILLER. Its that simple

SitandSpin

I'm sure Ritterbach told the story exactly how it unfolded.....NOT !  Sandusky SPD has a significant image issue with their off duty antics.

Darkhorse

Having these two families living across the street from each other is not good.  Ms. Dunn needs to warn her visitors to act like adults or it can get out of hand pretty quickly.  Chief Lang has to warn his officers whether on duty or off, to behave themselves and not aggravate the situation.

SitandSpin

Why Ms. Dunn ?  Why doesn't Mr. Dunn grow some and tell his "patrons" like it is ? Sandumpy SPD parades around to the beat of their own drummer when off-duty.....It is a he said she said situation but I can guarantee SPD will cover their own a$$e$ even if it means "twisting the truth" just a smidgen.

cockynurse

 Julie R...its called  "Internal Affairs" and that is not something unique to the area/county.  Some loud-mouth was yelling...eventually told to shut up and go back in the house...clearly, it worked.  Unfortunately, she didn't like it...boo-hoo.  

 

The complaintant did not call the police-but wrote a letter, instead?  And shes upset that nobody talked to her the day it happened...ooooooo-k.    If it was such a big deal-why would she not go talk to the police when they arrived??  Something isnt right here with the complaint...

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Julie R.

Doesn't make any difference if it's a citizen's complaint or a criminal one. Considering this was a relative of Kevin Randleman's common sense alone would have said in all fairness and to avoid any hints of impropriety, a neutral 3rd party would have investigated the complaint. But then we all know when it comes to Erie County and Sandusky the rules of common sense and fairness does not apply. Could be why Sandusky is so divided --- and as the old saying goes:  A house divided shall soon fall.  

Mama of 4

I think it was handled correctly. There was ONE officer present and someone from his residence called. THEY cooperated with police. On the other hand, Denisha did not come out to talk to officers, even if her phone worked ANYONE elese that was involved in the addresses of 802 or 804 could have called. When ever I have had to call police I have at least came out my door when they arrive. I am not happy with the SPD recently but I think with this being such a minor investigation with no foundation to her claims except assumptions they handled it correctly. Should we call in another department everytime a relative of Randleman and let me tell you there are quite a few has to call the police bc thier relative killed one of our own? I think our taxes are paying enough for Randleman to have a fair trial when it is obviuos from camerea what happened. i dont want my money going to another department to handle what was a small complaint blew up into something more. this happens everyday -oh yeah in Perkins too- and it doesnt get this big.

 

Mama of 4

I think it was handled correctly. There was ONE officer present and someone from his residence called. THEY cooperated with police. On the other hand, Denisha did not come out to talk to officers, even if her phone worked ANYONE elese that was involved in the addresses of 802 or 804 could have called. When ever I have had to call police I have at least came out my door when they arrive. I am not happy with the SPD recently but I think with this being such a minor investigation with no foundation to her claims except assumptions they handled it correctly. Should we call in another department everytime a relative of Randleman and let me tell you there are quite a few has to call the police bc thier relative killed one of our own? I think our taxes are paying enough for Randleman to have a fair trial when it is obviuos from camerea what happened. i dont want my money going to another department to handle what was a small complaint blew up into something more. this happens everyday -oh yeah in Perkins too- and it doesnt get this big.

 

Itsntallaboutu

UNREAL~These people are noting BUT trouble all the way around!   Keep kissing their butts~let them completely take over our city.    SICKENING.   GOD bless our LE  and thank you for all you do on or off duty!

SitandSpin

Thank SPD LE for what ? Breaking the laws that they themselves have sworn to enforce when they are off duty....Most of them (not all) think that the law does not apply to them.  SPD is a joke, they let these two bit hoodlums run Sandumpy

Erie County Resident

SitandSpin... Do as your name sames.

PerkinsTownshipRich

Hey SITANDSPIN why don't ya!

SitandSpin

Don't mind if I do Richie, don't mind if I do !

Itsntallaboutu

@SITANDSPIN~I guess you must KNOW what you are talking about or is it you are just one of those on the other side of the law?   They don't bother me/anyone I know one bit~we are all thankful for what they do~

SitandSpin

Oh I KNOW.......TRUST me on that......Some of the SPD have a moral compass no better than the scumbags they arrest in Sandumpy.  If you have lived around here long enough you figure out who the turds are :) 

The General

Siiittttttttt Bruddarrrr dat boy bes the copkiller..... word

YA_MAJESTY

ALL THE POLICE LIED,AS WE THOUGHT! SHE TOLD THE TRUTH. HOW DO CALL THE POLICE ON CROOKED COPS. THATS WHY THEY NEVER SHOWED THE TAPE. NEGATIVE PAPERS CONTINUE YOUR TRAFFIC. THE POLICE KNOW THE PROCEDURE WHEN STOPPING CITIZENS. DONT HATE KEVIN, FREE HIM. NOT ALL COPS ARE BAD IN SANDUSKY, BUT THEY DO HAVE 75% OF SOME UNFAIR PIECES OF WORK IN THE SYSTEM ALTOGETHER. BUT  AS CITIZENS WE WILL REMEMBER THAT OFF - DUTY COPS ARE NOT IN THE WRONG & RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. SO IN OTHER WORDS WE WILL REMEMBER THIS IN THE FUTURE THE NEXT TIME THEM COPS CROSS THE STREET ITS TIME FOR US CITIZENS TO PROTECT OURSELVES,BECAUSE SPD NOT. THEY GOT THE CHIEF & HIS INDIANS ACTING LIKE THEY WAS THERE.  WOW!! THATS NOT AN INVESTIGATION THATS CALLED DISCRIMINATION!!! IT HAPPENED!!! NEXT TIME ITS GONNA BE ON VIDEO & THEY CANT GAG THAT......... THEY KNOW IT DIDNT HAPPEN THE WAY THEY SAID IT DID THATS WHY THE REAL CITIZENS OF SANDUSKY HAVENT SEEN IT.......IF THEY GOT PROOF PROVE IT. THEY TAKING TOOOOO LONG WITH THE TAPE........BECAUSE IF IT HAPPENED THE WAY ITS BEING SAID, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN SHOWED THAT TAPE.....R I G H T!!!!! 

SitandSpin

Ya_Majesty go to the liquor store get a 40oz, some philly blunts and crawl back into your hole on Wamajo Drive because none of that drivel made one bit of sense.

YAWWNN

Really? YA Majesty?  Your boys defense team are the people you need to talk to.  They requested that the judge seal the evidence on the dash cam tape.  The defense team only does this when they know that there is enough evidence on the tape that it would likely sway the opinion of anyone seeing it, against their client.  I'm going out on a limb here but I would bet every penny I have that the video shows your boy killing a cop in cold blood.  He is gonna fry and the rest of you worthless hood rats are likely gonna go down with him in the near future. LOL

Erie County Resident

@ YA_MAJESTY... (or should we call you Chicago?)

Go sit on your crown until all we can see is your knees.

josiesmithoh

I was not aware of this situation until I read this article. Did I read this correctly that someone filed a complaint because a neighbor used a racial slur and told someone to shut up?

So, everytime someone calls someone else a name or tells them to shut up, they can file a police report? The name calling is rude and ignorant but since when is it against the law? When did it become a reportable incident?  WOW. How long is that complaint line?

 

 

Dick Tracey

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althenaruby

The way i read it, everyone except Dunn said in their testimony that Dunn told her to shut up. Also she didnt goto his house....Pfanner went to hers.  He lost his cell phone? a block away? around her house?  It just sounds fishy to me...

Sam

Julie R says "A house divided shall soon fall.  " Is that why you were DISINHERITED, they converted you mom's house into a duplex?

Sue Meredith

On duty or off duty, police officers from any agency have a duty to set an example. Using a racial slur to anyone is not acceptable. Wonder how many kids were present when this happened.

Dick Tracey

There is NO PROOF of ANY racial slur!  Just like there were not 7 cops there.

If you believe that, then you have to believe that Andy Dunn went all "Rodney King" on Randleman.

These people all truly believe that Randleman acted in self defense.

You can not fix that mantality, nor can you rationalize with them, or beleive anything that they have to say.

Just sit back grab a 40 and wait till the trial.

Erie County Resident

So going on this twisted Denishea Georges assumption I pause to ponder....

The mailman, the electric/water/gas meter readers, paperboy, and anybody else that walks on to Off. Dunns property are all undercover police holding a beer just because they are there.

 

Using Denishea Georges twisted logic once more we will assume anyone that she is related to is a cop killer.

Makes about as much sense...just thinking out loud.

Itsntallaboutu
  SitandSpin says

Ya_Majesty go to the liquor store get a 40oz, some philly blunts and crawl back into your hole on Wamajo Drive because none of that drivel made one bit of sense.

Now THAT was funny~sorry~

As for your other comment~I think I have lived in Sandusky long enough to know that the SPD do not ever treat me or anyone I know with any type of disrespect~never have~so I have to wonder why some people have all of these grudges against them~which makes me think they, themselves have been or are on the wrong side of the law,.   Common sense.

moonbeam

Iagree isntallaboutu. I've never had a problem with any member of the SPD and have always found them to be polite and helpful. Some  need to realize that if you are respectful and pleasent to people you most likely will be treated the same. That goes for any situation.You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.

KURTje

 Denisha                                        &                                                     Randelman           both        smell.

Captain Gutz

Vicki Dunn stated "Rob (Pfanner) was out of control". He's been out of control his entire life.

Taxpayer

So there it is.  It is ALREADY starting and the TRIAL is not even scheduled on the docket.  Like I posted BEFORE, "How about a few of you freaks get out more and talk with the PEOPLE instead of locking yourselves up in your homes?  Go talk to YOUR fellow members of the COMMUNITY and get their point of view.  I spoke to several, a week after the MURDER and was astounded to find out they think he (Randleman) is totally INNOCENT, no matter what!  How is all that 'social justice' and 'hope and change you can BELIEVE in' working out for YOU?"  The terrible TRUTH is this is going to get worse.  You crybaby liberals think it is wonderful to have class envy against those who create jobs and have money?  Now, there is going to be class hatred between YOU and everyone else.  Ha! Ha!  How will THAT feel?  It is going to get more intense as the trial nears.  Guess what?  HOW can the police do anything about it when they are being accused of wrong doing now?  Do YOU think the COMMUNITY will accept that?  I remember when this first happened and the Register could not even keep up with the number of blogs being posted.  Most of them turned out to be HATE statements against each other.  This is the very first MURDER of a police officer, KILLED in the line of duty, in the HISTORY of the city.  I am so afraid this will be a trial about RACE instead of the trial on the behavior and criminal actions of an individual.  Remember, the residents in the COMMUNITY have already decided he is "INNOCENT, no matter what" and there is NOTHING you can do to change their minds.  How is that "social justice" working out for YOU?  There is NO "class envy" between the city residents and Perkins residents when it comes to this incident.  Many in both provinces want, "One Nation Under GOD, Indivisible With Liberty and JUSTICE For All."  At least I PRAY (NOT "hope and change")  many still believe in that!     

eriemom

 Did I read this correctly? A Randleman family member lives across the street from Matt Dunn, Andy's father? This sounds more like Randleman's family was harassing the Dunn Family. Then a friend stepped up. This so called incident took place within a few weeks of Andy's death.  It is likely an attempt to show bigotry as cause.

Common Sense

RE:  YA_MAJESTY

If you had read the newspaper on or about the time the Sandusky Register petitioned for release of the footage of the alleged crime, they were denied access due to the extreme graphic violence portrayed. 

Also, can anyone confirm the rumor that the lawyers for the defense have asked for the video to be repressed?  Perhaps the video provides evidence too damning for the defense to handle??

 

007

Well first of all the address is wrong for the Dunn household in the report..

Concerned For A...

Here we go, somebody thinks it's payday!

Centauri

So going on this twisted Denishea Georges assumption I pause to ponder....

The mailman, the electric/water/gas meter readers, paperboy, and anybody else that walks on to Off. Dunns property are all undercover police holding a beer just because they are there.

Good comment. How can making assumptions be considered factual? Unless the visitors at the Dunn residence were in uniform or were recognized as being police officers, how can somebody make assumptions as being facts? Could this complaint be construed as giving false information?

 

SitandSpin

Itsallaboutu and moonbeam.....Not that it is any of your business but no I do not have a criminal history, not even a speeding ticket.  I know quite a few SPD personally and how they live their lives behind the badge is appalling in some aspects.  

cockynurse

 Why would anybody admit to being related to Randleman in the first place???  That was her first mistake...

Erie County Resident

I just happened to think of something that might be helpful figuring this out.

Denishea George broke the creed of 'da hood.

She actually thinks she saw something, said something, and called the police and reported something. She didn't follow the code of the hood and say she saw nothing, didn't hear anything, not getting involved because it didn't pertain to one of her people.

But since this involved somebody that wasn't in her ethnic group it's ok to break the code.

Hmmm... how do you say this????    Racist maybe?

somethingaboutmo

 My guess is Vicki Dunn's definition of "out of control" is probably comparable to the average citizen of Sandusky's idea of a normal reaction to someone heckling them.  I've known Rob for over 30 years and I would have to say that he has remained pretty well "under control" in situations that would have caused the average person to open up a can of Chuck Norris.  Although I wasn't there, I can be pretty sure that Rob probably went to attempt to reason with whoever was yelling and let them know what the Dunns are going through.  I don't know the facts, but Captian Gutz's assumption has no merit, whatsoever.

Captain Gutz

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Julie R.

@ Erie County Resident: I don't know Denishea George but if she did what you said she did I wouldn't call that a racist ~ I would call that a hypocrite. On the other hand, your comment ~ Denishea George broke the creed of 'da hood ~ I would call that racist.

Taxpayer

Rob Pfanner is NOT a full time SPD officer.  He is a RESERVE officer.  That means he does NOT get PAID any hourly salary and volunteers to ride along to increase manpower control during patrol operations.  That's right, he VOLUNTEERS to protect and serve the "good" citizens of the city.  How many of YOU do ANY semblance of volunteer work for the GOOD of the city?  Or, is it the typical, liberal, premise of doing ONLY for yourselves?  You know, like DEMANDING everyone serve and PAY for YOU?  I feel he is CRAZY to VOLUNTEER to help so many liberal, crybaby, LOSERS in the city without any compensation.  He places his life on the line for WHAT?  Rob is a FREE citizen to say what he wants to anyone he chooses.  He is well qualified in LE work.  He has proven himself working up the ranks at Perkins and held a full time supervisory position.  I can see Rob has been in LE for DECADES.  It almost sounds like someone might have "sour grapes" who was involved in LE action by Rob.  I have never seen or heard Rob being "out of control."  I have seen a lot of other officers at PPD, SPD, OSP and Erie County TOTALLY out of control.  There is a lot of personal animus because this is the FIRST time in the HISTORY of this county a LE officer was shot and killed in the line of duty.  The FIRST!  It is crippling, poignant and painful and is causal factor for all local LE officers to question themselves: "WHY am I doing this?  Is it really WORTH it?  WHO is going to take care of MY family if I get KILLED?"  Here is the TRUTH.  NONE of YOU!             

Cityslicker

Anybody that knows Rob very well can tell you that raising his voice or yelling would be considered "out of control" for him. He is a very reserved person that rarely even raises his voice. Capt. Gutz must have a vendetta against Rob. I too know of his law enforcement career, and worked with him very closely for years. So my opinion is based on facts.

Captain Gutz

My opinion is also based on facts, and yet it was removed while your opinion remains.

I have no vendetta against Pfanner, but I know what I know.

somethingaboutmo

I'm sure someone, somewhere, has plenty of "facts" about Captain Gutz. 

SitandSpin

I'm sure someone, somewhere has some "facts" about somethingabouthomo also :)

Captain Gutz

somethingaboutmo,

"I'm sure someone, somewhere, has plenty of "facts" about Captain Gutz. "

Indeed "they" do. And yet, I have not seen anyones statement to the police that the good Captain was "out of control". You'll have to trust me that I know Cpt. Gutz personally.

And I'll trust you that you and your buddy of 30 years are currently level headed non violent peaceniks. Birds of a feather. Probably have had conflict resolution training to go along with the anger management diploma.

somethingaboutmo

I see you were able to get my point Sitandspin. 

SitandSpin

Got it ;) So the moral to your story is.....EVERYONE has atleast one skeleton in their closet.

The General

....I got spurs that jingle jangle jingle...

r1Momma

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Amerian Dad

Once again the all knowing "Taxpayer" gives inaccurate information! Mr. Pfanner hasn't been a Reserve Officer since Ms. Nuesse did away with the reserve program several years ago. You would think that if someone is going make others believe he/she is all knowing, they would be up on their facts.......

jasonhawk

master degree program
associate degree program
doctorate degree program
high school diploma

UNREAL~These people are noting BUT trouble all the way around!   Keep kissing their butts~let them completely take over our city.    SICKENING.   GOD bless our LE  and thank you for all you do on or off duty!