Who is your favorite U.S. President?

Barack Obama, George W. Bush or one of the other 42?
Luke Wark
Feb 17, 2014

 Abraham Lincoln, also known by some as Fred Priebe, tells tales of the nation's 16th-president's life during a school presentation to the Immaculate Conception School in Port Clinton on Tuesday, February 11, 2014.

Do you have a favorite president this President's Day? Tell us who and why in the comments below

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WinstonSmith's picture
WinstonSmith

Aaron Burr was the best Vice President because he shot and killed Hamilton. If only they could have had the duel BEFORE the ratification of the CONstitution we might actually be free instead of being told we're free.

SamAdams

Money troubles at the federal level? Duh. Who's to blame? Lots of folks. But the FIRST man to blame is: Hamilton.

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WinstonSmith

We can thank Hamilton for just about every oppressive, statist situation that resulted in "We The People" being coerced into trading essential liberty for temporary security.

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WinstonSmith

Andrew Jackson was a nasty SOB, the only president before the 21st century with more blood on his hands is Abe Lincoln. But he did have a redeeming quality in the fact that he "Killed the Bank" and that was his life's proudest moment. He said as much on his deathbed...
Bottom line is everything that has to do with the CONstitution is the biggest lie ever sold to the American sovereign. That includes every president since 1789 and the usurpation of the Articles of the Confederation.

grumpy

Jackson was also the last President who paid off the National Debt. Few since haven't deficit spent, but he paid the whole thing off.

Licorice Schtick

Jackson is despicable for his key role in the genocide of Native Americans of the Southeast. The shame, still festering, is shared by this entire great country, but no one could have done more to prevent the Trail Of Tears.

Contango

Re: "Jackson,"

Looking at History while using current morality and recency will only lead to ignorance.

One must view the times as best as possible through their eyes.

Not saying that it was right, but one needs to understand their reasoning.

For one: Indian and Western cultures were wholly incompatible.

Easy to sit here in the 21st Century and judge.

Cliff Cannon

@ Contango : I about swallowed my tongue, remembering our prior " Jacksonain " debates as I read your commentary. Remembering, of course, that , I had attempted to say the same thing to you.


No matter, at least to me, as my wife isn't part Cherokee nor does her family come from " Oklahoma " ( which translates " land of the red man ) So I ain't headed for the sofa for saying the same thing as you.


Some how, some way, I always knew when I said in essence " Easy to sit here in the 21st Century and judge. " that you agreed,no matter how much you loved your father in law or his family heritage or how badly, you wanted to disagree with me.


P.S. All of us should never forget Jackson on his death bed, through his writings, as well as his influence over Polk, helped bring what ? 9 additional westerns states into America. No wonder, Jackson's famous quote " One man with courage is a majority " will always ring true to the American person of action.

Contango

Re: "I had attempted to say the same thing to you."

Our recollections are different and we're out of context.

I've known of the fallacy of "recency" since college.

As I wrote: Not justifying, only attempting to understand.

(Study the Spartans' institution of the agoge.)

Not-to-worry; in 500 yrs., our ancestors will probably shake their heads in wonderment at our ignorance.

Cliff Cannon

" Our recollections are different " Go figure. Who would have ever thought humans would remember 'things' differently ?

Contango

Also: Out of context and without explanation.

It's been said:

Our memories are like they're scribbled on posted notes randomly stuck to walls in a darkened room.

pntbutterandjelly

One great big "YES" in agreement with Licorice Schtick. "Free the salves and euthanize the natives." Sounds like a fair balance wrapped in "Public Domain". Next up; imprison the poor and weak for minor infractions and then shackle those left with Bank-generated depressions and recessions until they too submit. America...love it, leave it or fight back.

(Our history books are filled with incorrect data, outright lies and other deceitful innuendos in order to give the masses of feeling of American Superiority and....hope. These falsehoods give a faux pretense to one's own self-destiny, relevancy and unity of purpose. It is nothing more than a ruse to placate the masses while the proverbial fox is busy raiding the henhouse.

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WinstonSmith

William Henry Harrison because he died after 32 days in office. I'm sure, given more time, he would have been just as tyrannical as the rest.

“A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years.”
-Lysander Spooner

Cliff Cannon

@ WinstonSmith : You leave out he most important part of the Harrison presidency. His vice president--- John Tyler.


Nicknamed " his accidency " Tyler, being first to attempt it, made succession work. So where would we be with out him ?


Tyler, also brought to the presidency through his wife. This great tradition. Every time, he entered the room, she insisted the song " Hail to the Chief " be played.


Tyler's wife Julia, who was 27 years younger than him ( she gave him 7 children, which proves life begins at 54 if you have a young wife) was a Gardiner who's family owns to this day " Gardiner's island " at he end of " Long Island "


This island is the last piece of land still in the original family's hands from all the lands deeded by the king of England. Last trivia note : Tyler, joins James Monroe & Jefferson Davis in Richmond's " Hollywood cemetery" to be the only place in America where 3 Presidents are buried together


P.S. Harrison who made a career out of trying to be killed by the great chief Tecumseh. Also, was the first person to bring together 2 men who made the impossible work---joint command. There names ? " Lewis & Clark "

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WinstonSmith

In 1842 Lincoln married Mary Todd, who came from one of Kentucky's most prominent slave-holding families.2 While serving as an elected representative in the Illinois legislature, he persuaded his fellow Whigs to support Zachary Taylor, a slave owner, in his successful 1848 bid for the Presidency.3 Lincoln was also a strong supporter of the Illinois law that forbid marriage between whites and blacks.4

"If all earthly power were given me," said Lincoln in a speech delivered in Peoria, Illinois, on October 16, 1854, "I should not know what to do, as to the existing institution [of slavery]. My first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia, to their own native land." After acknowledging that this plan's "sudden execution is impossible," he asked whether freed blacks should be made "politically and socially our equals?" "My own feelings will not admit of this," he said, "and [even] if mine would, we well know that those of the great mass of white people will not ... We can not, then, make them equals."5

One of Lincoln's most representative public statements on the question of racial relations was given in a speech at Springfield, Illinois, on June 26, 1857.6 In this address, he explained why he opposed the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which would have admitted Kansas into the Union as a slave state:

There is a natural disgust in the minds of nearly all white people to the idea of indiscriminate amalgamation of the white and black races ... A separation of the races is the only perfect preventive of amalgamation, but as an immediate separation is impossible, the next best thing is to keep them apart where they are not already together. If white and black people never get together in Kansas, they will never mix blood in Kansas ...

Racial separation, Lincoln went on to say, "must be effected by colonization" of the country's blacks to a foreign land. "The enterprise is a difficult one," he acknowledged,

but "where there is a will there is a way," and what colonization needs most is a hearty will. Will springs from the two elements of moral sense and self-interest. Let us be brought to believe it is morally right, and, at the same time, favorable to, or, at least, not against, our interest, to transfer the African to his native clime, and we shall find a way to do it, however great the task may be.

To affirm the humanity of blacks, Lincoln continued, was more likely to strengthen public sentiment on behalf of colonization than the Democrats' efforts to "crush all sympathy for him, and cultivate and excite hatred and disgust against him ..." Resettlement ("colonization") would not succeed, Lincoln seemed to argue, unless accompanied by humanitarian concern for blacks, and some respect for their rights and abilities. By apparently denying the black person's humanity, supporters of slavery were laying the groundwork for "the indefinite outspreading of his bondage." The Republican program of restricting slavery to where it presently existed, he said, had the long-range benefit of denying to slave holders an opportunity to sell their surplus bondsmen at high prices in new slave territories, and thus encouraged them to support a process of gradual emancipation involving resettlement of the excess outside of the country.

Licorice Schtick

Plagiarist steals another long quote.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n5...

SR, please!

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WinstonSmith

Are you the copy/paste police?

Busting my balls is one thing, being a Nazi tattle-tale is another.

This is the Internet, you must be new around here.

Licorice Schtick

Yeah, the quintessential Nazi - a tattletale.
What do you think, Buffoon, that I just choose random victims to pick on? You're breaking the guidelines in multiple ways, thereby screwing up this experience for everyone else.

mikeylikesit

especially bob..

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WinstonSmith

I like how you nitpick on guidelines and protocol instead of debating the facts, and then you reward yourself by calling me a "Buffoon"

Your argue nothing but "formal semantics" and that's the behavior of someone who wants to debate but doesn't have the ability to argue the topic being debated. If you'd really like to gain insight into the current topic you should start with this book that was not available in your public school library:
http://books.google.com/books?id...

I'll make it simple for you, and considering I'm such a buffoon, you should have no problem logically deconstructing my stance:

Lincoln was a racist and tyrant with the blood of over 600,000 human beings on his hands for no better reason than to centralize power.

Your turn...

Cliff Cannon

@ Licorce Schtick : I am new to writing on the " Register " site. However, I am also as much as possible an honest man. So thanks for busting out" Winston Smith" .


Because, having seen him on this site get caught ----twice, stealing ---- other peoples works, personally, I have seen more than enough.


Perhaps, Mr. Smith should enter politics as he has already conquered todays most essential element's of politics----- lying & stealing.

Darwin's choice

Happy 5th anniversary "failed" stimulus bill!!!
800 billion that obama said would be "the beginning of the end of economic problems" in the country.
Coasterfan, big dog, deertracker, and the rest of you clingons, party on!

The Big Dog's back

We are.

coasterfan

9 independent studies graded the Stimulus Package. 7 of the 9 concluded that it worked. Since the recession did end - we didn't fall back into a 2nd bigger recession, as conservatives predicted, it would seem that history is on the side of those who say it worked. Unemployment has continued to drop, and job creation is up. We lost 8.7 million jobs during the last two years of the Bush years, and have gained 7.8 million of those jobs back.

Of course, I understand that Darwin defines "success" and "failure" different than I do. Personally, I don't miss the 2007-2008 financial meltdown...

WinstonSmith's picture
WinstonSmith

The fact is that the government, like a highwayman, says to a man: Your money, or your life. And many, if not most, taxes are paid under the compulsion of that threat.
The government does not, indeed, waylay a man in a lonely place, spring upon him from the road side, and, holding a pistol to his head, proceed to rifle his pockets. But the robbery is none the less a robbery on that account; and it is far more dastardly and shameful.
The highwayman takes solely upon himself the responsibility, danger, and crime of his own act. He does not pretend that he has any rightful claim to your money, or that he intends to use it for your own benefit. He does not pretend to be anything but a robber. He has not acquired impudence enough to profess to be merely a “protector,” and that he takes men’s money against their will, merely to enable him to “protect” those infatuated travellers, who feel perfectly able to protect themselves, or do not appreciate his peculiar system of protection. He is too sensible a man to make such professions as these. Furthermore, having taken your money, he leaves you, as you wish him to do. He does not persist in following you on the road, against your will; assuming to be your rightful “sovereign,” on account of the “protection” he affords you. He does not keep “protecting” you, by commanding you to bow down and serve him; by requiring you to do this, and forbidding you to do that; by robbing you of more money as often as he finds it for his interest or pleasure to do so; and by branding you as a rebel, a traitor, and an enemy to your country, and shooting you down without mercy, if you dispute his authority, or resist his demands. He is too much of a gentleman to be guilty of such impostures, and insults, and villainies as these. In short, he does not, in addition to robbing you, attempt to make you either his dupe or his slave.

WinstonSmith's picture
WinstonSmith

The Constitutional Convention of 1787 was a bloodless coup d'état.
Hamilton and the other Federalists gave us back the same Rothchild controlled British system that we had just broken free from.

We should have hung every one of the "Founding Fathers" for treason and stayed with the Articles of Confederation.

Licorice Schtick

Everyone know the first thing you do after the revolution is kill the revolutionaries.

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WinstonSmith

Lincoln was a racist tyrant... Just as bad as Hitler, maybe worse.

SamAdams

You're not allowed to say that. Revisionist history has all but canonized him, and it's the rare student that knows any different any more!

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WinstonSmith

I like to call them "The Cult of Lincoln" and they've got to be some of the most brain dead zombies to ever walk the face of the Earth.

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