Obama declares health care law is working

President argues his health law is preventing insurance discrimination against those with pre-existing conditions and is allowing young people to stay on their parents' coverage until age 26
Associated Press
Dec 3, 2013

 

Seeking to regroup from his health care law's disastrous rollout, President Barack Obama on Tuesday insisted that the sweeping overhaul is working and warned Republican critics that he would fight any efforts to strip away its protections.

"We're not repealing it as long as I'm president," Obama said during a health care event at the White House. "If I have to fight another three years to make sure this law works, then that's what I'll do."

Earlier Tuesday, the administration released a 50-state report saying that almost 1.5 million people were found eligible for Medicaid during October. As website problems depressed sign-ups for subsidized private coverage, that safety-net program for low-income people saw an almost 16 percent increase in states that have agreed to expand it, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.

The White House is trying to cast the health care law in a positive light after the first two months of enrollment for the centerpiece insurance exchanges were marred with technical problems. With the majority of problems with the sign-up website resolved, by the accounting of administration officials, Obama and his team plan to spend much of December trying to remind Americans why the administration fought for the law in the first place.

"We believe that in America, nobody should have to worry about going broke because somebody in their family or they got sick," Obama said, flanked by people the White House says have benefited from the law.

Despite Obama's sunny presentation, officials are furiously working behind the scenes to rectify an unresolved issue with enrollment data that could become a significant headache after the first of the year. Insurers say much of the enrollment data they're receiving is practically useless, meaning some consumers might not be able to get access to benefits on Jan. 1, the date their coverage is scheduled to take effect.

The troubled rollout of the insurance exchanges has contributed to a drop in Obama's overall job approval rating, while also emboldening Republicans and putting Democratic lawmakers facing re-election on edge.

White House officials say that with the worst of the website problems behind them, the president will return to a familiar political argument: criticizing Republicans for opposing the "Obamacare" law without providing their own ideas for solving national health care woes.

"They sure haven't presented an alternative," Obama said. "You've got to tell us specifically what you'd do."

Despite the website troubles, the White House says it is buoyed by high online traffic. On Monday, officials said, the site received about 1 million visitors, though they would not detail how many of those had actually enrolled for insurance policies.

Medicaid sign-ups are proceeding on a separate track. While subsidized private coverage is available to middle class people in all 50 states, the expanded version of Medicaid currently is provided only in states that agreed to accept it. So far 25 states and Washington, D.C., have done so.

Tuesday's report showed states that expanded their Medicaid programs saw an almost 16 percent increase in applications during October. States that did not expand saw a smaller, 4-percent increase.

 

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The Big Dog's back

BOOM!

Huron_1969

AGREE...... the explosions are coming faster and faster

MiddleRight

He is obviously lying, or he could quit giving exemptions to his favorite groups. In case any liberals care, everytime he does this, it violates the constitution because the President is not granted the power to unilaterly change laws. All of his "delays" and "exemptions" are actully violations of the constitution.

Mommy25

obama followers obviously don't care that he violates the constitution. The constitution does not give the President the power to change existing laws. Since the Affordable Care Act was in-acted (passed as a law), he has changed it 5 times, solely on his wishes ~ which is unconstitutional. Since obamacare's crash, a lot of congressman (Demoncrats up for reelection) have requested that Obama make yet more changes to this law ~ which again, will be unconstitutional. In 2012 Obama made 4 recess appointments when the Senate was not in recess. Three courts have ruled this unconstitutional and it is now at the Supreme Court. Obama has stated that if Congress did not act to enact his agenda that he will do it anyway on his own. President Obama has a history of violating the Constitutional balance of powers. As Kimberly Strassel of the Wall Street Journal has noted, he has unilaterally suspended enforcement of immigration law; he has refused to prosecute drug law violators; he simply stopped defending federal laws he didn’t like, like the Defense of Marriage Act, in court; he issues waivers on Obamacare and the No Child Left Behind Act; Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency has attempted to regulate carbon emissions when Congress didn’t push through a global warming bill; he appointed members of the National Labor Relations Board in violation of law; his administration rammed through an auto bailout that screwed bondholders, as well as a slush fund from British Petroleum (Ben Shapiro). Obama repeatedly emphasizes that the Constitution stops him from doing things he wants to do -- it's an obstacle to be overcome, not the greatest governmental structure ever created. And all obama's followers that give him Sooo much credit for obamacare .... idiots, it's not obamacare, it's clinton care. The clinton's found out what the American people WOULDN'T agree to (losing their own plans and doctor's) and obama lied to the American people to pass hillary's health care plan. Anything involving hillary & you'll find scandal closely behind.

https://www.boundless.com/u-s-hi...

mikesee

Although I don't really disagree with what you say there is one thing that needs altered. Although this was passed as a law the SCOTUS upheld it not as a law but as a tax. This presents another issue as Congress and ONLY Congress can implement taxes. Wondering why the SCOTUS did not reject this based on it's origin?

abigbear

the POS NEVER LIES
David Horowitz, author of The Black Book of the American Left and the founder and president of the David Horowitz Freedom Center, has spoken at length about how he was raised by “card-carrying communists” who always “described themselves as progressives.” He followed in their footsteps, becoming one of the founders of the New Left in 1960′s, which he described as an organization “formed by children of communists who wanted to get away from the taint that Stalin had put on (communism), and revive the vision.”

Contango

Re: "David Horowitz,"

They were called: Red diaper babies.

Congratulations, you're among the minority that knows the history of Marxism in the U.S.!

Darwin's choice

Obama is angry because the Republicans won't tell him their ideas! LOL !!

Darwin's choice

The title of Gallup's latest ObamaCare poll is about how young people are the least familiar with the law. The buried lead, though, is the finding that the more people learn about ObamaCare, the more they oppose it.

"Gallup notes that those "familiar with the healthcare law are significantly more likely to oppose it than those who are not familiar with it." Those familiar with ObamaCare disapprove of the law by a margin of 59-40%. Those unfamiliar are almost evenly split at 41% approve, 43% disapprove.
Gallup adds that the -19% gap in approval among those familiar with ObamaCare is a higher negative than what you see in polls of the general public.
Over the next 20 days, President Obama has vowed to make 20 public appearances as a way to spread the news about ObamaCare, and encourage sign ups. If Gallup's polling is correct, this could drive disapproval of ObamaCare up even further.
It is almost certain that when voters are able to sign into the ObamaCare exchanges -- where most will be faced with the brutal reality of overpriced premiums, sky-high deductibles, and a lousy choice of doctors -- that disapproval will increase even further.
The American public never liked the idea of ObamaCare. This Gallup poll shows that for a vast majority of users (to coin a White House phrase), the reality is even worse."

jibber jabber

Reported by WALL St, 10 top countries where people live the longest, via yahoo.finnance. ALL have government HealthCare, just like ObamaCare.
Guess what, USA is no where close, for a country that makes you sick only to TREAT your illness. WakeUp

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/te...

Contango

Re: "10 top countries where people live the longest,"

1. Longevity is more about genetics. (Pick your parents well.)

2. Those countries have sm. populations and are largely homogenous.

3. Legislating healthcare for the U.S. with 315 million people would be the equivalent of having one for Europe - too diverse, it wouldn't work.

Coram Deo

It's ironic that the President would talk about the awfulness of those losing healthcare coverage when he is directly responsible for millions of Americans losing their coverage. And for those who have been able to log on to Healthcare.gov many have been stunned by the high cost of their policies. Wait until the second shoe drops on January 1, 2014. His pep talk to save his legacy was not only ineffective but it was shameful as well.

Unassumer

I agree. I'm not signing up or getting insurance otherwise (husband's employer stopped paying for family coverage years ago and I can't afford my own policy). I would rather pay the fine and take my chances. I don't see how this healthcare thing is an improvement over the old way.

Mommy25

except it's not really HIS legacy. The affordable health care act (otherwise known as obamacare)is nothing more than clinton health care plan from 1993 that got shot down in '94. obama learned what wouldn't work about the clinton plan and then lied to the American so he could pass clintons health plan.

Darwin's choice

And he's still lying!!!

Ask every Republican where their answer to obamacare is, Harry Reid rubber stamped "disapproved" on it.....

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The Hero Zone

Bush declares "Mission Accomplished".

Huh...a lot of people seem to be able to declare a lot of things. I wonder how many of them are true? Or is this the one? I also agree with Darwin above in that any alternatives (probably also without being read as frankly that is what it takes to be in Congress) are threatened with a veto or no Senatorial action.

I'd love to actually have someone in a position of power who is willing to listen and discuss instead of telling us what s/he wants us to believe. In this case that it is raining despite the distinct odor of urine coming from our calves.

Contango

Re: "Bush declares 'Mission Accomplished'.

His detractors took it out of context. He was referring to the invasion.

Actually, the Iraqi Kurds have and still do like us. Kurdistan is relatively peaceful.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2...

IMO, more like Pres. Obama's:

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan."

samiam

Why would the young people that they need to "buy into" this actually buy any insurance when they can stay on their parents' insurance until they're 26? DUH?

toredown11

I'm going to cut and paste parts of a post that I wrote earlier on another thread only because I signed up for health care through the Obamacare federal exchange, so I talk from experience rather than what I hear on TV or the radio. Before I do, though, I just want to say that Obamacare does insure babies under the age of two (someone had posted that you had to get a separate plan for children under two - this comes from a guy that Fox News had on one of their shows - the guy forgot to add his baby to his application). Here's part of what I posted earlier:

Our family had a good experience signing up for health insurance through Healthcare.gov this past weekend. We didn't save a ton of money ($200/month), but the policy is better and the savings will buy groceries for a couple of weeks. We had been with the same health care provider through my wife's work for the past ten years or so, and the particular plan we were on was cancelled four times and each time we were offered a new plan with big increases in cost (approximately a 10 percent increase with each change). Of course, we had to buy into the new plans because we didn't really have an alternative. Supposedly, my wife's employer was paying half of the cost for our insurance, so I didn't really expect to find something cheaper through the exchange, but to my surprise, we did.

(An update to that post: we're actually saving $260/month because I forgot to add the cost of what I was paying for dental insurance. Dental was included on the health care plan I chose through the exchange)

Listen, the health care system in this country was broken BEFORE Obamacare came along. The U.S. health care system ranks anywhere between 36th and 47th in the world depending on who's study you read, yet we pay more for healthcare than any other country hands down (two and a half times more than most developed nations in the world!). Even with health insurance, I can't afford to get my skin cancer treated and send my daughter to college, so I choose to bank on her future and hope that the cancer doesn't spread quickly. When I look at the most profitable companies in this country and a large number of them are insurance companies, yet I can't get treatment for an ailment without putting my family in financial risk, I have to think that we can do better. If the health of our citizens is not THE top priority, then I have to think something is wrong. Obamacare isn't perfect, but at least something is being done to try to fix the failed system that we've had.

So with those two paragraphs pasted here, I'm done talking about health care for a while. If you don't go on the exchange to see if there are better and/or cheaper plans for you and your family, fine - just don't post about something you know nothing about. Obamacare is not socialized medicine anymore than what we've had in the past (all insurance is basically a socialized service). You still purchase insurance from the same insurance companies that have been out there in the past; this is not government insurance (unless, of course, you qualify for Medicare or Medicaid, which has been around for almost 50 years).

Good luck everyone, and have a safe holiday season.

Darwin's choice

All well and good for you, have you made a payment yet?

Being "signed up" and actually having a "working" policy are worlds apart.

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The Hero Zone

I appreciate you sharing your story, but without going into personal details, can you please describe your before and after policies and their costs? Old/New deductible? Copays? Other parts of the contract? It may do more to illustrate your point, and that is said from someone who is a skeptic of this tax but who is willing to talk with an open mind about such things.

grumpy

I asked him the same things when he made the same statement after the other article. I hope you get the answers I didn't get.

Contango

Re: "We didn't save a ton of money ($200/month), but the policy is better and the savings will buy groceries for a couple of weeks,"

Anecdotal.

If the "Invincibles" don't sign up, your low premiums are gonna be history FAST.

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JMOP

Keep an eye on your credit score. The obamacare website is a hackers paradise.

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thinkagain

How do we know B O is lying?

His lips are moving.

Darkhorse

It is one thing to sign up and another to actually make a payment. People cannot be mandated to pay for something they cannot afford in the first place and that is why they don't have insurance. Obama is one big brainwasher. He keeps repeating the words hoping everyone believes him. A lot of people are going to be without insurance unless something is done quickly. And, it shouldn't include a bailout for the insurance companies. Obama keeps making bloppers and expects the taxpayer to pay for his errors.

Unassumer

bloopers, not bloppers.

Pterocarya frax...

This problem with health care costs has been escalating for 30+ years. Where were your beloved Republicans to put policies in place to slow down the cost curve throughout that time? You had lots of time to fix problems from 2001-2007 when you controlled the presidency, house, and senate. What did Republicans do during that time to fix this?

Oh wait....I forgot that I am not allowed to mention that era. It never existed to most of you.

SamAdams

Republicans (and, to be fair, most Democrats) opposed at least one thing that could have reined in healthcare costs: Tort reform. So you're right when you suggest that Republicans (and Democrats) didn't do what they could have when they should have. That being said...

Obamacare as a "fix" for healthcare is like fixing a leak in the bottom of a boat by cutting it out. Not only is it failing to address the problem, it's actively making it worse.

Contango

Re: "This problem with health care costs has been escalating for 30+ years."

Try closer to 50 yrs with the introduction of ol' "guns and butter" LBJ's Medicare & Medicaid.

Obama☭are is more like amputation of a wounded arm - it AIN'T a fix no matter how often the Kool-Aid drinkers say it or write it.

Contango

"Obamacare Suits Mount as Notre Dame Joins Scrum of Cases":

"The Notre Dame case is among 86 lawsuits attacking Obamacare on religious grounds,"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/20...

Good thing that Pres. Obama didn't say: If you like your religious beliefs you can keep them. :)

Contango

"Short-term fix eyed for another problem with U.S. healthcare website":

"Health plans will estimate how much they are owed, and submit that estimate to the government. Once the system is built, the government and insurers can reconcile the payments made with the plan data to 'true up' payments,"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2...

So the DC bureaucratic kleptocrats are gonna TRUST those evil, greedy insurance cos. ? lol

Obama☭are: The cluster (bleep) that keeps on (bleeping) up.

The Nobel Prize Winner-in-Chief's "solution" to EVERY problem is to throw billions of dollars at it. Genius!

What should one expect from a former community organizer whose major job was scamming money out of the govt.?

Dr. Information

On insurance until 26. This isn't new, and its wasn't Obamas idea. This has been this way for years.

Polls don't lie. He's in the dumper. Obamacare is still broke. Just because the SR is good at propaganda copy and pasting, doesn't mean its accurate.

The only thing that has happened so far is MEDICAID expansion, aka, more living off the government boob. Great job Obama, said no one ever.

Contango

Re: "This isn't new"

Beg to differ:

It 'may' have been a "practice," but NOW it's the LAW.

http://www.aarp.org/health/healt...

Our healthcare trust stopped offering dental ins. in order to help fund this mandate.

We felt the effects of Obama☭are a while ago.

For their next trick, the progressive-socialists will legislate the abrogation of gravity because it unfairly disadvantages the disabled and the obese. :)

mikesee

"On insurance until 26. This isn't new..." Ummm, not true. College students could stay on their parents policy until the age of 23 I believe. At that time they had to come off. Prior to this a 21 yr that was not in college could not be on the parents policy, pretty sure.

Unassumer

Just don't sign up. Simple and effective strategy.

Contango

Re: "Just don't sign up."

Good point. If one is sick or injured ERs still have to treat ya don't they?

"Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eme...

Obama☭are: Watch it crash, burn and die.

SamAdams

It's already crashing and burning; I'm just waiting for death. Hmmm...do you suppose we can appoint a "death panel" of our own and maybe hasten the downward spiral before it causes too much more damage?

Contango

Re: "before it causes too much more damage?"

Wait until the employer mandate kicks in and millions potentially lose their employer based health plans and are thrown onto the exchanges.

H*ll most don't understand how their 401(k) works and the financially ignorant masses are supposed to understand their health ins. ?

Unfortunately THAT is about the ONLY positive I see: It expands the individual ins. mkt. and shrinks the employer ins. mkt.

Yrs. ago, GM's major expense was healthcare and not steel. YIKES!

BTW: Employer sponsored auto and home ins. didn't work.

Dr. Information

No such thing as a free lunch. Someone has to pay for this mess. This administration expected young healthy people to sign up in droves. Actually, this had to happen for Obiecare to work. Problem is these young healthy people are on mommy and daddy's insurance for 1/3 of their life. Totally contradicts itself.

SamAdams

Under Obamacare, a 15 year-old girl is entitled to contraceptives because she's an "independent woman," but a 25 year-old girl is entitled to remain on her parents' insurance because she's a "dependent." Pretty cool how that works, eh? (Or not...)

Contango

Love the "legalese."

To quote the great POTUS Slick Willie:

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."

traumamama

So now Obama thinks that people are stupid enough to believe that his turd of a health care law is effective just because 2 small aspects of it are "working." Great! What about the horridly designed website that was thrown together and rolled out without testing? What about the thousands of people who lost employer sponsored plans? What about people who are watching the cost of their employer sponsored plans skyrocket to pay for this perveribial turd of a health care law?

You can't put a positive spin on this one, Obama. The only people who actually agree with this stupid plan don't know anything about it or are too stupid to realize that you're pulling the wool over their eyes--AGAIN! I'm tired of being lied to. I'm tired of Obama thinking that the American people are stupid enough to believe his crap. I'm tired of Congress making themselves exempt from all the "turds" they create. They should be force fed this crap just like the rest of us!

Darwin's choice

Harry Reid exempts his staff from obamacare.....LMAO !!!

The hits just keep coming from the "blunders" in charge.....

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/04/po...

grumpy

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grumpy

Harry just did what Pelosi told him to do. He voted for it so he could see what was in it, didn't like what hew saw, so he exempted his staff from it. How can anyone say it is even remotely hypocritical? You guys are just being racist to poor Harry. You are racist I say!!! (that should shut up you repthugs from calling poor Harry names)

Dr. Information

Amazing how these clowns do this and then are re-elected.

mikesee

Seriously, if the ACA is such a good thing then why is Harry Reid taking this stance?

"Harry Reid exempts some of his Senate staff from Obamacare exchanges. One of the biggest public supporters of the Affordable Care Act has reportedly decided that some of his staff should be exempted from the new law."

Contango

Alex Baldwin axed and now Martin Bashir quits.

They're dropping like flies at the looney progressive network.

The Big Dog's back

Bashir resigns for telling the truth, fox fires no one for lying everyday. Go figure.

Darwin's choice

Kinda like Obama......

Hasn't been fired yet for the daily lying....

grumpy

That's gonna leave a mark. +1

SamAdams

So then you agree with Bashir that defecating into the mouth of someone who says things you don't like is an appropriate punishment? Golly, what OTHER creative and totally sensible slave punishments would you like to see reinstituted? And what speech "crimes" do you think merit such punishment? Inquiring minds want to know!

Pete

Anyone against the Progressive Agenda would be "silenced" if the parasites had their way.

When Breitbart died he celebrated. The left takes great pleasure in the death or misery of those who oppose them.

The Big Dog's back

Yes, I agree with Bashir.

grumpy

My, you will require a loooonnng time to evolve. I bet you still have a residual tail.

abigbear

The Fed’s latest Beige Book, an overview of business conditions in each of the Fed’s 12 banking districts, would seem to contradict oft-repeated claim that the shutdown hurt the economy and hindered growth.

The Fed said seven of its 12 banking districts described growth as moderate. Four — Philadelphia, Chicago, Kansas City and San Francisco — said growth was modest. Boston said its regional economy continued to expand.

Manufacturing strengthened in most districts, helped by more production of cars, trucks and high-tech products. Consumers increased their spending in most regions, and retailers were optimistic (albeit cautious) about the holiday shopping season. Five districts reported positive developments in hiring; the other seven reported little change.

Some companies in Cleveland and Chicago reported heightened levels of uncertainty due to continued debate over the federal budget. And tourist destinations in Boston, Richmond and Minneapolis reported lower traffic during that time.

In November, a measure of consumers’ confidence fell to the lowest level in seven months, a drop that came after a much bigger decline in October that was blamed in part on the government shutdown.

The declines in both months were driven by falling expectations for hiring and the economy over the next six months.

dorothy gale

Let me start by saying I am in favor of health care reform, IF that reform is for the better. I do not think that health insurance should be free but I DO believe it should be AFFORDABLE for everyone, ESPECIALLY if those who don't have it are to be penalized. This so-called Affordable Care Act is a f***ing JOKE! I applied on the website only to learn that the cheapest plan will cost one entire paycheck, and I get paid twice a month. That plan has a $5000 deductible and pays 60% of costs. I have sent several scathing emails to the White House and have not received a reply. I will keep sending emails and if one day the Secret Service appears on my porch, so be it. At least I will get free health care in prison. I would like to know in what alternate reality half of one's monthly take-home pay can be construed as AFFORDABLE! And then to punish me with a fine because I can't afford the damn policy! I could understand it if the premiums were REALLY affordable, like 50 bucks a month, but they AREN'T. I have never expected to get something for nothing but don't tell me that a monthly premium equalling half of my net income for a 60-40 policy with a $5000 deductible is AFFORDABLE! I am so angry.

Dr. Information

dorothy gale, most people are in the same boat as you. They are finding out how unaffordable it really is. Lets not also forget the millions of plans that have already been cancelled. As it stands Obamacare is in the hole and will never get out.

KURTje

Well Dr, do you work on the migrants in Willard?

Contango

Re: "the migrants in Willard"

And what do you do for 'em kurtie?