Stamped out

Food stamp benefit decreased for Ohioans this week.
Associated Press
Oct 31, 2013

 

About 1.8 million Ohioans will see their food stamp benefits decrease slightly on Friday, which advocates for the poor say is going to hurt.

The 2009 economic stimulus bill temporarily boosted the federal food stamp program for its 48 million recipients nationwide. The boosted benefits expire at midnight Thursday, resulting in automatic 5.5 percent cuts to monthly distributions.

For a mother with two children, the reduction means about $29 less per month. For a family of four, it's a cut of about $36 a month, to $632.

"Thirty six dollars is significant," said Marilyn Tomasi, spokeswoman for the Mid-Ohio Food Bank. "It might not be significant for some, but it certainly is to a struggling family who is hungry. You could have a whole chicken dinner once a week for that."

Lisa Hamler-Fugitt of the Ohio Association of Second Harvest Foodbanks said she expects the program will end up taking more hits. She said a farm bill in Congress could cut food stamps by up to $40 billion over the next decade.

The federal food stamp program distributed $242 million in benefits to Ohioans in July, according to the most recent data from the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services.

Many families that receive food stamps also rely on groceries and support from food banks and other charities to scrape by, said Michelle Riley, CEO of the Foodbank Inc. in Dayton. She said she fears there will be more of a need now for those services, which are already struggling to meet the enormous demand placed on them by the recession and persistently weak economic conditions.

"When you talk about $193 million in direct benefits being cut from the economy, that's a huge deal," Riley told The Dayton Daily News. "You can't balance the budget on the backs of poor people — that has a ripple effect."

 

Comments

ladydye_5

Yes, people had their food stamps cut. A lot of other people also took PAY CUTS too. Lost jobs. Took lower paying jobs. Cost of food has gone UP. Gas is still over $3. Everyone is feeling it. Maybe some (I said some) will need to stop buying the Redbull and lobster.

IT'S ME

Don't forget the iPhones & $200 pairs of shoes! And the Cadilac they use to haul there free groceries home. How can the food stamp users afford all that?

deertracker

You must be like 100 years old!

usea611

---Google is paying 80$ per hour! Just work for few hours & spend more time with friends and family. Yesterday I bought a top of the range Lancia after having made $9458 this month. Its the most-financialy rewarding I've had. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it out http://goo.gl/w7ceUX

happyfeet64

I know of a mom and teenage daughter who received $175 monthly. The mom is on disability temporarily while going to school to obtain her associate degree. They were struggling with the amount before. I've taken food to them on occasion,now because of the cuts,they will only be receiving $155. The mom supplements this by spending $150-175 out of her pocket. Her rent is $425 and utilities are $57 for gas and $57 electric.She only receives $748 in disability .She only eats 1meal a day so her daughter can eat. What is she supposed to do? She's trying to better her life and show her daughter a positive role model. So,it's not always trying to get over on the system.

grandmasgirl

You and other friends might have to kick in a little more. I have stood behind people in line using food stamps. Most often or not, they have chips, ice cream, pop, and other non-essentials in their cart. Maybe this woman and her daughter can plant a garden. Grow some of their own food. It is good that this woman is trying to better herself, but I wonder if she will "give back" when she gets on her feet.

RNR

wow. I would LOVE if I could get on disability and go to school to obtain my associates. Instead, I have to work, take care of my child, and go to school, buy all meals (around $400 mo) and pay for it all myself. And my electric/gas bill is triple what she pays!! Oh and I wonder if she gets more help than that.... metro? free school lunches for daughter? medical card? Guess what.... I pay all that out of my own pocket. No one drops food off at my door. And with all her free time not having to work... yes I agree with grandma.... Plant a garden!

Informed

If she's on disability, what makes you think she can physically plant and manage a garden?

mikesee

Probably half of the people in this country that are on disability are in better shape than most people think.

mikesee

RNR - maybe the gov't can take some of the land they are paying farmers not to farm and let people on foodstamps plant gardens!

happyfeet64

She has 3 serious medical conditions that up until 4months ago prevented her from leaving her apt, debilitating Crohn's disease,diabetes mellitus with an average A1C of 10 and Hep C + from a blood transfusion.Watch what you wish for-3years ago, she had a life,worked,supported her kids,same as you.She worked for 35 years before this and you're going to be a smarta**- she would LOVE to be able to go back to work and support her family. As for free time ,where do you figure she has free time? She doesn't even have a car-public transport and a bicycle. God,you're an a**!

starryeyes83

OMG. She's the type of person who should be getting more help- not less.

Illnesses happens so fast sometimes and people need to realize that some of them are not visible from the outside.

The Big Dog's back

The right wing death panels. Starve them to death.

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2cents

Hmm! Kinda on right track, starve them so they have no energy to pop out more mouths to feed.

Bottom Line

Right yeah the plan is that they starve. Because God forbid they work like me for what they get. And don't give me an example about the exception. I'm talking about the majority rule. Free loaders reproduce more free loaders. Exponentially.

Informed

And exactly what evidence/data/proof do you have that the majority are freeloaders, and that the minority are the example given? What if you are wrong?

Dr. Information

Ive seen MANY people on food stamps. Hardly starving.

wowbagger

The Democrats voted for this. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20...
Might want to do some research.

Ok WTF

Okay, okay I will ferking admit it. I am awaiting major surgery. Cannot work and am addicted to ramen noodles and hot dogs ...though I do delve down to salads cause they are easy and I love them. I have been approached by "multi-benefiting families" to buy their food stamps which is tempting but I have always refused...I do know that some always don't. This pi**es me off and I have no names to back them up, only suggestions. The exponent of this is congress which is wealthy beyond means nor reservation. Neither are right, what shall I do?????? Pay for another golf club membership in congress or another pair of nike's in their district!?????

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thinkagain

@OK WTF Hopefully you can get your prolapsed sphincter in your judgmental a$$ repaired.

shucks

nice talk

Stop It

From the person who condemns every gay person to hell.

Ben Crazy

Cut it more and then they may get a job like the rest of us! wouldnt that be awsome.

Bottom Line

Well said

Informed

Many of them already work, some of them work two jobs.

The New World Czar

The increase in 2009 was TEMPORARY with time limits.

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The Hero Zone

It would be refreshing if the cause of the need of these programs were addressed instead of the symptoms. Also, for the language describing such problems be used more responsibly.

If I fell off a boat in a swamp and were drug back on board covered in leeches, what is going on is as if everyone else on board gave me transfusions to replace the blood lost by the copious leeches instead of removing the leeches. When I ask them, "Why don't you remove them from me" their answer is "we don't want to touch slimy things or get dirty, instead we'll just keep putting clean blood into you to replace what you are losing".

The above isn't comparing recipients to leeches.

So instead of getting into the cause it is easier to just throw money at people who, for one reason or another, can't take care of themselves expecting them to take care of themselves. It boils down to one side shouting HUURRRRR and the other shouting DUURRRRR at each other while pundits throw out one-liners such "third-rail, third-rail!" like monkeys flinging poo.

It comes down to education. Not more of what we have now as that apparently isn't working in the aggregate. More education delivered in a different way covering topics that are actually relevant to living as many are clearly having problems just doing that. Algebra is important, but it is more important to learn how to be a wise shopper, how to fix your own things around the house, etc. Especially how to be financially literate and responsible about money, not just groceries.

What I have personally seen as an even larger problem than any of those is the root cause: nobody asks questions! We see it from political leaders in Washington to an individual going to a hopefully more trusted environment like their doctor's office. Yes, you may need a certain drug but please do yourself a favor and ask your doctor and/or pharmacist about it. Why? How does it work? Are there alternatives? How long will you have to take it or what can you do to get off it earlier? Understand your surroundings and what is going on around and inside you.

I have heard that due to the ACA doctor's offices are asking questions about whether or not you rent, etc. Demographics that aren't necessarily medically relevant. Do you just fill out the form blindly or do you ask why they need that info? And, if you don't want to give it to them, how you can indicate that on the form?

Don't agree with someone here or elsewhere? Why? What are they thinking that is so different? What common ground do you share to start a productive conversation?

In this case and to bring it back home to be relevant with the article: How can the PEOPLE be helped, not just sustained on a minimal budget which even that may be abused if only by a minority of its users.

nonconformist

I love reading your input on articles. Again we go back to education. Couldn't agree more. And so glad you touched on the subject of people asking questions. So many are "dumbed down" and refuse to open their eyes to their surroundings and everything happening right before them. Again, education.

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The Hero Zone

Thank you, I take that as a genuine compliment. I wish I wasn't the only one. I know I am not here, but I wish there as as much effort into finding solutions that help ALL instead of scoring political points that are meaningless to at least half the constituents in any district.

mikesee

At the gas station the other day a lady used her snap card for 2 bottles of Pepsi. She used cash for her cigarettes and lottery ticket. Don't feel sorry for this girl getting her benefits cut.

JMOP

5.5% a month for food stamps! That ain't nothing! I've had to cut mine 25% a week, sometimes up to 50% a week. My loss of $50-$100 a week.
I'm sure WIC, Metro or their welfare checks will help them cover their pitiful 5.5% loss. At least I hope so, or there may be rioting in the streets.

heavyk300

I receive assistance from the "food stamp" program, also my family receives WIC, and we get medicaid. I would like to point out a few things, 1. WIC is not like food stamps, you can only buy whole grain bread, milk, 100% juice, etc... 2. Not everyone who receives food stamps is "lazy, uneducated, popping out kids" I work 32 hours a week until I can find something better to provide for my family. 3. medicaid is not as great as some people think, yes while some people find a way to abuse the system, a lot of real people are in real pain, and cannot get the help they need. Doctors look at you like some drug addicts who're faking pain just to get a fix. I have two herniated discs in my lower back, and have had to work through pain, I've had my family doctor, and two specialists look at my MRI, no pain killers, or anything. (my job isn't that hard) but I am afraid that if I get a "tougher job" that my back will completely give out and I will be unable to get off the couch. My girlfriend goes to school full time, and is trying to better our lives, and when she does land that high paying job, I will have no problem paying taxes so some other person can get help when they really need it, and they can better their quality of life. Or that person who just got laid off from their job, or just lost a spouse who was the sole bread winner. I appreciate everything that I have received, and I know that without it, I would not be able to put food on the table.

tk

Guess I don't understand that part about when your girlfriend gets a high paying job you will have no problem paying taxes. I believe she's the one who would be paying taxes. Also, the WIC program is for women, infants and children, so it would appear that your back isn't totally bad.

heavyk300

I meant we, I also said our family receives WIC, and I'm unsure how us getting WIC would make my back not "totally bad"

KnuckleDragger

^^perfect of example of gaming the system.

Unmarried couple squirting out little welfare checks. Baby mama raking in the freebies, check, SNAP, WIC, Metro, Medicaid, free school lunches, reduced utility payments, free obamaphone, free education. While baby daddy works a part time job and lives with baby mama feeding from the trough. You notice they haven't bothered to get married and make it legit because then they would likely lose all the bene's and they would have to pay for the birth of their children instead of you and I footing the bill. I bet baby mama doesn't even claim he lives with her because she would likely lose all the handouts. Gotta love the entitlement mentality, they have no problem stealing from those that are working hard and barely making it so that they can live a semi-retired lifestyle.

heavyk300

Unmarried because we cannot afford to have a wedding. If I wasn't on the case then I would pay child support you dolt. I work 32 hours because thats all my job offers, I cannot work 40 hours a week...oh and by "Obamaphone" you mean the cell phone program that was started under Bush correct? We do not have metro, we're buying our own house. Being married has nothing to do with receiving food stamps, you can be married and receive them. Try getting your information from a source other than fox news, and other republican outlets. I'm not out there selling my benefits, which I've previously stated that I'm thankful to get. I do work, You do not know me, and don't act like you do.

KnuckleDragger

Really? It would cost you less than $100 to get married by a judge. You obviously have enough money to squirt out kids. I digress, we probably paid for that. I guess your ability to debate facts is limited. Its obvious because whenever a liberal can't come up with something intelligent to say they always say the same thing, fox news, blah blah, blah. FYI Im not a republican and I didn't vote for Bush nor Obama.

heavyk300

to hell with it...you cant fix stupid...we will get married when we want to, not when some jack rabbit on the internet thinks we should...

Dr. Information

Do everything backwards (have kids, don't get married)….the new American Way.

mikesee

Why can't you work 40 hours? A second job could provide you that opportunity. Even though the free phones were not started under Obama he has promoted this program and its usage has increased by 68 percent since he became president.

heavyk300

A second job? hell the first job was hard enough to find...in all seriousness I work 32 hours a week, 3rd shift, stay up for 24+ hours two days a week so my girlfriend can go to school..I can't afford a baby sitter, even though the state can help with the cost, i just cant afford it.

LadyC

If their income is low, it doesn't matter if they are married or not. The household would have another person, thereby raising the threshold. That's pretty harsh of you to say they are stealing. Pell grants top out in the 5000s, so normally that is only about half of a year's education, the rest would be borrowed. It sounds like a struggling young couple in a bad economy to me. He is working, she is going to school. At least they are trying.

heavyk300

Thank you, I could lie and say I don't live in the household, and she would get more in food stamps, the money I would pay in child support wouldn't really be lost, and I would only have to pay a small fee for probably 200-250 dollars more in food....but I don't believe thats right, cause my parents raised me right.

Informed

You mean the free "Reaganphone", since Ronnie started the free home phone stuff. Then Bush with the free cell phones. Calling it an Obamaphone just shows your ignorance.

happyfeet64

Where in the hell did you read all that? You really should be a fiction writer. Just amazing.SMH

man4451

WHY didn't the Government STOP corporate WELFARE or FARMERS Welfare, how about the UAW welfare. They ALL get BIGGER paychecks than these MOTHERS trying to get ahead, What about the SCHOOLs that get money from the STATE Welfare then hand this money over to TEACHERS wages Welfare. Better Yet, HOW about PAY a living WAGE where people don't need WELFARE. You all are Hipacrites. So where does these people make cuts? yes the The poorest of people. So who is next, Grandma Grandpa?

sandusky2012

$632 per month for a family of 4 REALLY I don't even spend that on my family of four no wonder people are fat... LIMIT THE SODA POP AND RATION THEIR FOODS!!!!!

KnuckleDragger

I don't have that much budgeted for my family of 5. If I can do it on $100 less a month for a larger family, I'm certainly not going to shed any tears because someone on SNAP gets a few dollars less.

Informed

Please tell me your menu for feeding a family of five three meals a day for under $100 per week.

deertracker

I too would like to know that. We are a household of two but still spend about 300 per month and that includes staples and personal hygiene products. Three of my five kids are boys and they had big appetites. I am glad they are grown now! I think it is important to remember that most people on the SNAP program have jobs. Yes, there are abusers of the system but most really need the help. I also think that those that seem to be all in other people's grocery cart need to get some business. Some things are out of your control.

KnuckleDragger

Only in the liberal mind does $632/mo equate to under $100/wk. Unless you are a lard a$$ and don't bargain shop, it is fairly easy to feed 5 on less than $632/mo. I have been doing it for better than a decade.

Informed

I apologize, I misread your statement. And no, it's not easy to feed a family of five three meals a day for $523 a month if you eat healthy, fresh foods.

KnuckleDragger

It is, and we have been doing it.

Informed

Well please give me a copy of your menu for the month. I would like to know how I can achieve this.

deertracker

Crickets, crickets, crickets.......................

deertracker

It's 108.00 dollars per week to be exact. I absolutely believe you are lying!

KnuckleDragger

The more you type the more your ignorance shows. The article states $632/no for a family of 4. Only in your pea brain does that only equate to $108/wk. By what calendar do you come to the conclusion that there are almost 6 wks in a month? 632/4 wks is $158 wk. I spend $300 every 2wks on groceries. That includes meats, fruits, veges. Actually it is probably less because that includes things like toiletries and cleaning supplies, things you can't buy with food stamps, We bargain shop and clip coupons. In the summer we grow a garden an can the excess for the winter. My kids allvpack lunches for school. If you can't feed your family on $158 wk maybe you should leave out the porterhouse steaks and the cart full of junk food. Just because you don't have enough sense to be frugal doesn't make me a liar.

shucks

@ KnuckleDragger aka. Mr." It's obvious you lack the intellectual ability to debate me without the name calling"
.....Do you get foodstamps ?

Another thing, Mr. Intelligent - YOUR math is wrong.

632 x 12 mo = 7584 divided by 52 weeks = $145.84 per week.

happyfeet64

That is NOT a realistic amount. There are other variables involved to determine the actual amount and the majority of the time,it is nowhere near what you think.

mikesee

Now if you qualify for snap card and have kids in school they are getting either free/reduced breakfast and lunch. So are these people saying that being responsible for one meal per day, dinner/supper, 5 days per week that they are not getting enough money? I will shop for them.

It is true that there are many people that truly need this assistance and there are those that do work and are receiving minimal assistance. However, all people receiving aid are getting a bad rap because of the abuse of others. Until that is cleaned up you will still suffer.

nonconformist

Pretty presumptuous. Maybe they pack their children's lunch everyday for school and feed them breakfast before they leave in the morning. Oh, that's right, people who receive these benefits are lazy and entitled. They wouldn't dare make sure their children are fed well at home instead of relying on the crap they feed them in school.

mikesee

Statistics are on my side. The number of children receiving free and reduced meals at schools have increased over 50 percent in the last 4 years. Follows the same increased stats as adults receiving benefits in the last 4 years.

For some kids those meals are healthier than the junk food they get otherwise.

KnuckleDragger

More than half of the kids in Sandusky schools receive free/reduced breakfast and lunch. You are kidding yourself if you think these people are feeding their kids breakfast and packing lunches when they can get 2 of 3 meals paid for by taxpayers.

donutshopguy

Knuckle,

Over 80% of the kids in the Sandusky School System are on free or reduced breakfast and lunch.

I remember when it was only lunch. Now the entitlement crowds get 2 of the 3 meals per day . By the end of the decade it will include dinner. Some kids now get sent home with food for the weekend.

It's a never ending drain on the responsible working portion of society.

donutshopguy

These entitlement programs were started to be temporary in nature. Help those who needed help so they could bet back on track.

But through generations of entitlement these programs have become a way of life. No need to improve yourself just live off the government. These generational entitlement individuals have also learned to manipulate the system. Have more kids, get more money.

These programs need to be returned to there original purpose.

KnuckleDragger

It'll never happen because Dems use them to buy votes.

KnuckleDragger

The dirty little secret is that those recipients in Red states are likely Democrat voters.

Overall, a Pew Research Center survey conducted late last year found that about one-in-five Americans (18%) has participated in the food stamp program, formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. About a quarter (26%) lives in a household with a current or former food stamp recipient.

Of these, about one-in-five (22%) of Democrats say they had received food stamps compared with 10% of Republicans. About 17% of political independents say they have received food stamps.

The share of food stamp beneficiaries swells even further when respondents are asked if someone else living in their household had ever received food stamps. According to the survey, about three in ten Democrats (31%) and about half as many Republicans (17%) say they or someone in their household has benefitted from the food stamp program.
-Pew Research

deertracker

So you are saying that only the DEMS in the red states get stamps? Do you realize how RIDICULOUS that sounds? Republicans LIE! If they are talking they are lying!

KnuckleDragger

Read the posting nimrod, do the stats show that only dems in red states use stamps? My god sometimes I feel like I'm talking to a child.

mikesee

Knuckle I believe you are correct. The dems have enslaved these individuals. They are eating out of the hands that feed them and will not change for fear of losing what they have.

KnuckleDragger

Deertracker is a perfect example. Even when shown proof he closes his eyes and pretends that he didn't see it. These people will never figure it out until the money runs out and they have finally support themselves. Nah, you will probably just find their carcasses on the lawn of people who are self sufficient when they try to steal what they have.

deertracker

Sprinkles, I would like for you to name a family that has been on food stamps for generations! Just one!

donutshopguy

deer,

Do you want four generations or three generations?

I will only use last names.

Smcc Alum

@Donut, He won't respond because he can't. This guy worships Obama blindly, In his eyes obozo does absolutely nothing wrong.

From the Grave

There's no shortage of hatred in the world, that's for sure.

Simple Enough II

i wuldn't say hatred, but frustration of abroken sysyem and folks of low morals who abuse systems set up to help folks on limited basis. Look if you are willing to live off the system instead of making your own way and being a positive part of the community you live in, then why in God's green acre would I want to have my tax dollars go to support you and your kind?

nonconformist

Hatred, ignorance, and lack of understanding and empathy... Unfortunately, this door swings both ways.

bigrmachine

When I was a teenager and my parents were struggling at times to keep the family above water there was only one thing to do and that was get a job to help out. Seems as this is above young people nowadays as they are only taught by this society to take and not give. Sacrifice is a real hurdle at times but makes you a stronger and prepares you for this harsh world as we know it can be.

Informed

I'd like to know where all these jobs are that people are telling others to get. Funny, because for every job I know of, there are usually at least a hundred applicants. Sometimes five times that. And even if they do find work, it will most likely be part time and/or minimum wage work, which still leaves them below the poverty level and still qualifies them for food stamps. There are many working people in such a position. But then some of you still complain. I don't get it.

mikesee

You must be mis-Informed! Haven't you been following the messiah network? Obama has created 100's of thousands of jobs since he became president!

deertracker

It is you that is misinformed. The private sector created those jobs.

mikesee

Really. I thought that he said "that you didn't create that job, the gov't created that job". You know during his campaign.

deertracker

He was making the point that they created their business with the help of government infrastructure and that is very true! Again, you are misinformed.

anthras

I was wondering how the government obtained the funds to finance the infrastructure??? Does the government still have all the heavy equipment they used to build the roads and other things.

It is said that the government can give you anything you want by paying for it with your money.

mikesee

When I built my business outside of Sandusky I had to pay for water, sewer and roadway to my building which sits about 100 yards off of the roadway. The gov't paid 0 of that.

Any infrastructure that has been built by the gov't was paid for by me, you and the taxpayer. The gov't used OUR money not theirs.

deertracker

@informed
Agreed!

KnuckleDragger

Here is the where the blame for the cuts belongs. From the liberal Cleveland PD. Looks as though those greedy teachers like coasternut and his wife are stealing food from kids mouths.

http://www.cleveland.com/open/in...

LadyC

Informed is right about the job scene. Many adults have been forced to take the lower-paying jobs that the teenagers used to do. Not because they want to, because they have to. There is a shortage of jobs that will pay enough to sustain a family, regardless of education or experience. So telling someone to "Get a job" is not the only answer. Many of the food stamp recipients already have a job or two or three. Maybe some of these mega-corporations who outsourced many of the available jobs could ante up a little more. Oh, but no. The CEO's wife needs a new $20,000 dress or something.

starryeyes83

If you can afford to and have the room - a small freezer is a good investment. For meat sales and , making up soups, stews, beef and noodles, meatloaf. Meatballs and sketti sauce. Etc, ETc, And then freezing it.

I've made up homemade baked beans (from scratch) and had real good luck freezing them.

Also paper products and trash bags and those kinds of products are cheaper at the dollar stores.

On occasion, you could even stock up on Staples.com for all that stuff when they offer free shipping.

Just a few suggestions - take 'em or leave 'em.

As you wish.

LadyC

I don't pay much attention to what other people are buying at the store, but I have noticed the prices have gotten crazy high on a lot of things. I went back to "old school" and stopped using the convenience foods so much. With or without help, a lot of people are feeling it.

KURTje

On a bright note Social Security got an increase no matter if you are struggling or not. Based solely on age. Geez...

shucks

EXCELLENT POINT!

The non- strugglers are taking their Social Security.

That means George Bush got a raise in his SS.

anthras

I am now struggling however I will take my very small increase as the government did force me to pay the tax. If I would have had a choice I would not have paid to the government because I did much better in saving and investing myself.

I can collect from the government until I die and my children will not receive anything after that the government will keep the excess. The remains of my personal investments will be given to my children after my death

grumpy

Actually how much you receive from SS is based on how much you or your spouse contributed over your/their time working. Of course there are other ways to receive SS that Congress has added on. But it is based on contributions, not age... Congress has added ways for children to receive SS... It is not just a simple process...

donutshopguy

My wife and I spent two hours yesterday making up (15) two serving loaf containers of lasagna. We freeze them and take them out when needed. The cost per serving was about $2.50 including packaging and freezer bags.

We buy food in bulk and break it down into two serving size meals. We can vegetables and fruit to use throughout the year.

If anyone is interested in learning these cost saving measures I will be more than happy to help you with these old fashion ways.

Informed

I guarantee that for that price you did not use whole grain pasta, which is the only healthy choice.
Fresh vegetables and fruits are much more healthy than canned. Fresh, then frozen, then canned. Tomatoes are sometimes the exception because if they are concentrated in a canned version they contain more lycopene.
Did your lasagna contain meat? If so, what type?
It kills me the number of people on this board bragging about their cost-saving ways, but when you look at the food, it isn't healthy food. Someone made a comment about freezing beef and noodles, meatloaf, spaghetti and meatballs, and baked beans. None of that is healthy. It's all red meat (which you should have no more than two six-ounce servings a week) and refined carbs. Healthy means fish, skinless white meat chicken and turkey, whole grain pastas, breads, and cereals, and fresh fruits and vegetables.

Smcc Alum

Chill out... he never said it was healthy and this way works for him. I believe that this man has the freedom to use whatever ingredients he wants in his lasagna, or are the liberals trying to regulate that to?

Informed

You apparently needs a lesson in reading comprehension. He and another poster are bragging how they can teach others to reduce their monthly food budget. They were stating that it is easy to feed a family of four or five for $600 per month. I am merely pointing out how their examples are not healthy, and how it is not possible to feed a family of four healthy foods for that amount.
He can eat whatever he wants. So can anyone else. But their examples do not even follow the recommended dietary requirements, so to suggest others do it is not appropriate. They are not nutritionists.
You don't seem to be learning too many Christian values at that so-called Christian school if you are going to start on the liberal-bashing. Don't forget, Jesus was a liberal.

Smcc Alum

Christian Values? Must you bring my religion in to this? Once again a common defense mechanism of the left. Next you'll call me racist for disagreeing with you.

The irony in it all is that you bash the first good person to share their discoveries on how to make affordable and filling food, but the people who you, and the rest of the left are defending (Generations of Entitlement Families) are putting everyone's taxpayer dollars to work buying cheese puffs and candy. But the left won't criticize them because that's 90% of their voter base.

Informed

Sorry, but you brought your religion into it with your name. I am not defending anyone. I am merely pointing out the examples that people are giving are not healthy. And it is expensive to eat healthy food. It's people's own choices what they eat and don't eat, and I don't really care. I have no problem with a family of four receiving $600 a month in food stamps if they qualify for them, especially given that many of those people are hardworking people struggling to make it. Do you realize how many people in the military qualify for assistance? Six hundred dollars a month for food for a family of four isn't a lot of money. While I would hope they would buy nutritional food with it, I realize that most do not. However, if they did, they would have less food because it is much more expensive. Anyone saying it isn't is lying.
Prove to me that 90% of the left's voter base are generations of entitlement families. That is not true and you know it. Explain to me why the poorest states in the country are republican. There are plenty of educated, middle-class people who vote democratic, and there are plenty of tea-baggers that receive welfare. When Repubs get their noses out of people's bedrooms/private lives, provide equal rights, and quit giving WELFARE to corporations, I might vote for a moderate one. But that's not happening because the Tea-baggers have hijacked the party.
You need to quit listening to Fox news.

Smcc Alum

90% was sarcastic and I did not expect anyone to take it seriously but sometimes you never know who you're talking to.

Re: "Explain to me why the poorest states in the country are republican."

- Because half of their income is taxed and "handed-out" to the generations of entitlement families in Democratic states.

^ Just pointing out that was also sarcastic because you have a trouble understanding my sarcasm.

The real answer is that they aren't truly repub. states.

- Ky, Ar, Nc, Mt, and Wv have governors that are democrats and three of these states have Democrats controlling a house in their legislative branch. That being said are they actually republican? Turn off Jack Cafferty on CNN.

mikesee

As stated earlier his food is 100 times better for you than the food most of the Snap card users eat.

donutshopguy

Informed,

So you would be really upset with the purchases at Bay Meats today. Remember it's the first Monday of the month and the SNAP cards get refilled with your money.

Yes, SNAP cards purchased, in front of me today, T-Bone Steaks, Ribeye Steaks, Ground Round, Pork Sausage Links, Frozen Frog Legs and Frozen Processed Breaded Chicken Breasts.

Yep, they used your money to purchase these horribly expensive and unhealthy animal muscle. What's up with that?

Informed

I really don't care what they purchase. It is the other people on the board that do. I was merely pointing out that their examples are not healthy, and if they want to tell SNAP recipients what they can and can't eat, then they need to emphasize healthy foods, not the crap people have been using as examples, which includes nothing but red meat and refined carbs. But they won't do that because to eat a healthy, well-balanced meal is expensive.

mikesee

Yeah because the candy, chips, McDonald's, pizza, pop, ice cream that Snap card users can get free is much more healthy.

Informed

No, but I don't care what they purchase. Just trying to point out that things like regular pasta and red meat are really not any healthier than ice cream and chips.

starryeyes83

Whole grain pasta tastes like crap all the "healthier choices" costs 3 times more. Some people will not eat fish, If you can afford the higher dollar amounts. go for it. I don't live near a wally world.

BTW: My grandparents ate those kind of meals most of their lives and they both lived well into their eighties with minimal health problems.

Gee go figure.

Booze and artificial sweetners aren't healthy either but that doesn't stop people from consuming boatloads of the stuff.

FYI: I wasn't bragging; I was merely making a few suggestions. excuse the hell out of me.

You must have folks who were rich , mine weren't and we had to learn how to stretch the meals.

I wasn't bragging: I merely made a few old- school suggestions.

Take 'em or leave 'em.

Informed

People were complaining because those on food stamps are buying the wrong things. Then they give examples of things that are still the wrong things. That is what I was trying to emphasize. I don't care what you eat. But you made my point for me when you said healthier choices cost 3 times more. So what do these complainers expect food stamp recipients to buy?
Yeah, my parents and grandparents ate like that as well. One died in her 60's, one had heart problems starting in mid 50's, and my own father, although still living, has a multitude of health problems. So what is your point? Many of the overweight, unhealthy people are those 30 and over who grew up eating and still eat red meat and white bread and pastas.
Old school diets don't solve anything.
I am done commenting on this. People still don't understand my point, which is what difference does it make if food stamp recipients are buying chips and ice cream, or red meat and white bread? It's all unhealthy, but it's all cheap, and people complain. But then if they buy healthier, but more expensive foods, people still complain.
Before anyone makes anymore judgmental statements about those who receive food stamps, do some research into the number of those who are working, including those in the military. Yes, there are people that abuse the system, just like anything else. But these stereotypes about people receiving help are ignorant and nothing more than right-wing propaganda. You don't punish or label everyone because of a few bad apples.

starryeyes83

I make Bean soup and vegetable from scratch how is that unhealthy? And Baked Beans , gee, beans that's on the food pyramid list. Again, healthier than ready made.

When all is said and done YOU can't get out of this world alive, anyway.

Informed

Baked beans usually have a considerable amount of sugar, sometimes ketchup (which contains high fructose corn syrup) and usually some sort of pork fat for flavoring. Perhaps your recipe doesn't.

Smcc Alum

I don't think king Obama and his worshipers on the left understand that at some point in time, the government will run out of other people's money.

Informed

Neither did Bush and his worshipers on the right when we went into unfunded war based on lies.

mikesee

And was supported by Reid, Pelosi, Clinton, Kerry. You dems always seem to forget that.

Informed

Supported by them based on lies by Bush and his cronies. You repubs seem to always forget that.

Smcc Alum

Just like the lie about keeping our Doctors and current Health Plan if we like it right? Or did Obama never say that a million times. Oh, and let's not forget the Benghazi Scandal which Obama, Clinton, and the liberal media have done a tremendous job of covering up by the way. Easily an impeachable offense

Informed

Gee, my family still has our doctors and current health plan. The liberal media is another fallacy. Try reading the facts that someone posted about the article about the family's increase in healthcare costs. Not only is the family lying, but so is the article.
And what does Benghazi have to do with overspending billions of dollars?

Dr. Information

So Bush was over in the ME doing his own personal intel? Bahaha. What a misinformed person.

Smcc Alum

@Misinformed

According to what you said, you must have bought your insurance before march of 2010. If you haven't heard yet, Obama changed his statement of "you can keep your plan if you like it" to "you can keep your plan if you like it IF you bought it before the Law was passed".

Gee, your family is pretty lucky. Now just open your eyes up to all of the people who bought in to this lie and thought they were fine, Only to open their mail boxes to find cancellation notices from their insurance companies because they do not meet the minimum "regulations" for their current policy. Now Bobby, (name used as example) forced to buy a new plan because he was kicked off his is paying a deductible that went up a couple thousand and increased premiums for insurance that he doesn't need! That's right! He's paying for these "extra's" or "free-by's" that cost him money. For example, alcohol counseling, Drug counseling, and maternity insurance which he will never need! Unless he falls in to depression and gets pregnant! Both unlikely

Back to the original point about the family lying about losing their insurance and rising premiums. Tell that to the 900,000 in California and the millions more scattered throughout America, or is that just a myth to?

http://www.latimes.com/business/...

Informed

What does this have to do with food stamps? And in my world, I would have single payer health care like the rest of the western world does. To me, it a basic human right.

Smcc Alum

It doesn't, you brought up your family's health care

mikesee

Which also has an approximate base tax rate of at least 52% for EVERYONE. Just think if, instead of getting refunds, the 47% actually had to pay income tax. There would be he!! to pay.

Dr. Information

Temporary programs run rampant and are now a way of living. That is why we have a welfare problem.

Informed

Well, when people's wages are poverty level because companies don't want to treat people decently, what do you expect? Add corporate greed to your list of reasons why we have a welfare problem.

donutshopguy

Informed,

Are you a "living wage" advocate? Please explain your definition of "decently".

mikesee

Start your own biz and then you can pay your employees whatever you want.

KURTje

Smcc student realize the state Of Miss. is still the poorest in the Union. It was also the 1rst state to offer tax abatement - circa 1936? Please study harder, you'll make the Prometheus Society if you try.