Lt. John Orzech talks "Gun Crime Advisory Group"

(UPDATED WITH VIDEO) According to The Columbus Dispatch, Attorney General Mike DeWine is forming a Gun Crime Advisory Group to deal with the gun problem in the state of Ohio. He says it's a big problem with convicted felons having and using guns.
Jasmine Pace
Jun 25, 2011

 

(UPDATED WITH VIDEO) According to The Columbus Dispatch, Attorney General Mike DeWine is forming a Gun Crime Advisory Group to deal with the gun problem in the state of Ohio.  He says it's a big problem with convicted felons having and using guns.

We sat down with Lt.  John Orzech, of the Sandusky Police Department, to ask him  whether he feels there is a gun problem here in Sandusky.  We also asked him if the Gun Crime Advisory Group will reduce the gun crime rate in the state of Ohio.

 

 

 

Comments

badboy

"We sat down with Lt.  John Orzech, of the Sandusky Police Department, to ask him  whether he feels there is a gun problem here in Sandusky.  We also asked him if the Gun Crime Advisory Group will reduce the gun crime rate in the state of Ohio."

So where's the "rest of the story?"

eriemom

Curtis: What with the link? They specialize in shrink--theft of inventory.

6079 Smith W

@ CB:

Buy the e-paper or buy a hard copy. Somebody's gotta pay for your spam right?

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@ em:

The link? Spam.

 

Taxpayer

Curtis is USING the blogs to "plug" his own business for FREE.  He was like that when working at PPD.  If he can get FREE advertisement for his "business" then go for it.  I do agree there is NO story here.  I wonder if the Register really believes the city police will bend over backwards to TRUST the great wizard of a newspaper and give them anything of substance.  I will guarantee you Lt. Orzech will be using a LOT of CAUTION when speaking to the Register.  WHY?  The entire AREA of LE agencies are well aware of how the Register loves to SLAM them for ANYTHING.  The paper believes trying to excoriate the police will SELL newsprint.  It MUST be a miracle and a coincidence that ALL area LE agencies can PREDICT the liberal negativity of the Register.  Because of the performance of the Register, it has become a "them against us" mentality.  If I were Lt. Orzech, I would give the Register as little as possible because he will be "set up" and it will "haunt" him in the future.  If ANYTHING happens involving gun violence in the city, and it WILL, the Register will re-print only portions of the interview to infer BLAME.  Remember sports fans, when there is ANYTHING involving LE, the Register will make it their MISSION to seek and extract past reporting and the personnel records of any officer, up to and including their dental records.  Come on!  Their OWN display of "eminence" reporting is very well documented and PROVEN to be biased against ALL police.  How about those PERSONAL attacks of city officers because they "looked" at an editor leaving a watering hole downtown?  WHAT were the police doing?  They were doing their JOB and patrolling the downtown.  The solution?  Print and infer that an editor is being "picked on" and BLAME Law Enforcement for the misery of a newspaper.  I am sure most of you forgot all about that.  Do ANY of you believe the Register is FOR your 2nd Amendment rights?  When there is gun violence in the city, I can PREDICT the BLAME will be on guns and LE.  Just give the thugs that are SHOOTING a FREE PASS.  When a thug is arrested, does the paper "investigate" anything about them?  Do ANY of you think it is absurd and senseless to investigate the personnel records of responding officers, who are dispatched at RANDOM, instead of investigating anything about the thug?  How about using some critical thinking?  The paper does do some great investigative reporting, but when it comes to the men and women in LE, the biased in the print screams at you! 

badboy

I'm hardly spaming. I was a long time resident of the area and as Taxpayer pointed out I worked in law enforcement in the area. I still have some very close ties to the Sandusky area. Although I don't know what taxpayer means when they say, "he was like that when working at PPD." While working at PPD I never owned my own business. So what if I have my business link as my signature? In the past, I've had a link up to books I've been involved in - so what? I've never hid who I am on these blogs and have been posting since they went up - that includes the one's before the current version.

badboy

6079 Smith W - If the article had said something like read the epaper story or the print edition I would have known to go there. Buit then, it didn't say that did it.

   

 

6079 Smith W

 

@ Curtis Baillie:

Promoting a business in this format without paying for it? Spam.

One can only hope that your intuition as a cop was vastly superior to your grasp of online news articles and your understanding of blog etiquette.

 

Erie County Resident

I wondered how long it would take that idiot DeWine to start his campaign against the 2nd Amendment. He has a long record of this.

Guns do not commit violent acts. Punk thugs do with any weapon available so get off the gun kick.

The real problem is the judicial system that hands out suspended sentences and probation to these mental midgets. Give the thugs a very very long stay in prison and stop the mamby pamby dancing for the media.

Now using the statement that convicted felons are getting and using firearms I ask this.

WHY are these convicted felons out on the streets? A lot of them have been convicted multiple times for violent/felony crimes and then turned loose on the public once again.

Now pay attention here Mike DeWine... Stop going after the weapon and go after the individual commiting the crime like it should be. All gun laws do is punish the law abiding citizens.

Time for Ohio to use the 3 strikes and your out, life with NO parloe. Problem solved permenently!

Centauri

According to The Columbus Dispatch, Attorney General Mike DeWine is forming a Gun Crime Advisory Group to deal with the gun problem in the state of Ohio. He says it's a big problem with convicted felons having and using guns.

There are mandatory sentences when a gun is used in a crime or in possession of a felon. Unfortunately, the lawyers and lawyers in robes have no idea what the word "mandatory" means. They make up their own rules and meaning of words and the laws. Mandatory means required, not optional or subject to discretion.

Read the local Sandusky Municipal Court records. See how many arrests for gun violations are dismissed or the charges are bargained down. The police must be very frustrated when they arrest someone with a gun violation. Look at Randleman.

One reason why the mandatory sentencing is not followed is because of prison overcrowding. The real criminals are roaming the streets because government critics, whistleblowers, drug users, fathers who could not pay child support and others who hurt nobody, stole nothing or were set up on sham charges are in prison.

Kill somebody, rape somebody or beat someone to a pulp with permanent injuries and they get a light sentence.  Those who hurt nobody or were the victims of sham charges or sentenced to long terms by lawyers in robes sit and waste their life away in prison.

Gun Crime Advisory Group? What a joke.  The laws to punish those using or possessing a gun illegally is already on the books. Enforce the law and use mandatory sentencing.

 

 

Centauri

The real problem is the judicial system that hands out suspended sentences and probation to these mental midgets. Give the thugs a very very long stay in prison and stop the mamby pamby dancing for the media.

Now using the statement that convicted felons are getting and using firearms I ask this.

WHY are these convicted felons out on the streets? A lot of them have been convicted multiple times for violent/felony crimes and then turned loose on the public once again.

I agree with ECR.

DeWine is forming a Gun Crime Advisory Group. It will give DeWine a Feel Good feeling. Nothing will be accomplished except more strict gun laws that punish the law abiding citizens. Outlaws have no use for laws. More laws on the books will not stop the outlaws.

I have to wonder if any outlaws are using any guns that McClung confiscated or sold. How about all those weapons that were confiscated by the Perkins PD from criminals over the years? Were they destroyed or sold? DeWine should investigate all of those guns that were confiscated or sold by McClung. That would be a start in the right direction.

I doubt if the powers that be would want DeWine snooping around at the local level.

KURTje

DeWhine was one of Taf's bedmates.     That idiot Taft fought the right to carry law for Buckeyes.  Taft said something like " The Ohio State Patrolman's Assoc. is against it.....so I am too.         DeWhine   would do well to make it easy for honest voting citizens to carry.             I do love my 40cal. Glock. 

patriot5
Yes, enforce laws that are on the books; actually punish the criminals. That’s whats coming, more gun laws for those that obey the law. I see the direction this will go, another big attack on gun shows and individuals selling guns on places like armslist. Makes everyone feel all warm and fuzzy, but does nothing. So many blame guns, and criminals just get a slap on the wrist.
eriemom

And yet, this administration is closing prisons and cutting funding. You can not have it both ways. If you want perps locked up and "off the streets," then you need to pay for both the incarceration and the rehabilitation. If not, the system becomes a revolving door, which is what we now have.

Taxpayer: You can't attack unions and at the same time support cops. You would be the first one screaming if the SR didn't investigate a non-law enforcement public sector employee, but whine when they investigate an incident involving a union employee working in law enforcement.

JIMBO2

Be VERY careful with Mike CeWine in charge of any advisory panel on guns or gun violence. He was seriously anti gun as a senator and likely will continue to be as AG. His solution will end up being to disarm all of the citizens of Ohio, which as the Lt. stated in the video is not the problem or concern. Law breaking thugs are the crux of the issue. If you have it and I want it I will just point a gun at you and take it. Over 238,000 Ohioans now have CHL and some of these low life are going to get their a$$es perforated in protection of lives and property. Vote freedom first when you go to the polls and rid Govt. of antigun politicians and judges, enforce laws for mandatory sentencing for gun violence and watch crime rates drop.

Protect yourself.

When seconds matter, help is only minutes away.

Outside lookin in

JimBo  your right.......Why hasn't DeWine arrested the Erie County Prosecutor and his insurance buddy for transporting weapons and drugs from Florida to Sand Town USA?  They have an eye witness and sworn testimony at the BCI.  They protect the criminals in office (fellow lawyers) and go after the citizens of Ohio.....DeWine maybe a one termer.

SamAdams

The gun-grabber answer to everything: We need a law! A COMMON-SENSE LAW! The problem? The law-abiding will obey (albeit reluctantly), but they were already law-abiding. The criminals? They're already breaking multiple laws. What's one more?

eriemom,

We all know we can't have it both ways. But we'd have a boatload of extra prison space if those who don't belong there were released! Which brings me to another point:

The War on Guns, brought to you by The War on Drugs. Yeah, THAT'S been successful! Only in the case of the "war on guns," some are actively working to ensure that no innocent can protect themselves from the guilty. In my mind, that's a lot worse and far more deadly than any drug ever THOUGHT of being!