(Fixed) Word on the Street: Is Sandusky becoming too dangerous?

We asked a few area residents if they think Sandusky has become too dangerous in light of the recent gun violence. Watch this video to hear their thoughts and jump into the conversation by commenting below.
Jasmine Pace
Jun 16, 2011

 

We asked a few area residents if they think Sandusky has become too dangerous in light of the recent gun violence. Watch this video to hear their thoughts and jump into the conversation by commenting below.

Comments

huronguy

 Hey Register Word on the street is your Videos rarely play correctly!

starryeyes83

Compared to  10 years ago ..YES!  

 Your  town has much more shootings and gun play now, simply because of the thugs/drugs/ ghetto riff raff that is moving in your town...  you also  have a dead police officer.

What do you think?

pepenik99

Yes, Sandusky is becoming more and more violent.  the reason is drugs, and more drugs and that includes alochol.  Much of the violence stems from corhorting youth and problems with minorities. I would continue to report all of this vilence FRONT PAGE every single day until the silent majority finally take a stand and control their neighborhoods and families.  Good work Sankusky Register!

brutus smith

 When you take away hope from people just to make the rich richer, this is the result. 

YAWWNN

Really Brutus? Take a look at the names of the people doing most of the violent crimes in Sandusky.  Those of us who grew up here know the names well.  This has nothing to do with hope.  It has everything to do with multiple generations on welfare with nothing better to do with their idle time but cause problems.  Not all but most of the idiots recently involved in these shootings have families that have been on welfare for generations.  They have chosen to make this a lifestyle instead of a helping hand.  Now that Sandusky is mostly metro rental units, a great deal of residents are on public assistance.  With too much time on their hands, this is what they do.  You need look no farther than most big cities to figure this out.

8ballinthesidepocket

Brutus, you really are an idiot...typical liberal dogma "it's not my fault I didn't go to school and learn something productive"  it's not my fault I keep having babies and don't know who the daddy is"  It's not my fault I don't make enough on welfare so I can buy a new car and new house"  Only liberals fail to take ownership for their own shortcomings, promote and support doing nothing but weekly trips to SSI or whatever, and decry success due to their own failures.  Now you tell me how the rich get richer by having what used to be a wonderful place to live,
Sandusky, turn into cesspool?  Your rambling comments have never made sense and this latest one might just be the dumbest ever.

Jack Frost

The problem is the courts, the officers risk their lives to arrest these low lifes and then the judges give them a free pass. If the victims are closed mouthed about who's doing the shootings and stabbings, lock them up for obstruction. Everyone of these losers are wanna be gang members, Hancock St., McCarther Park, Pioneer Trail, and Larchmont. Small time hoods. Have the judges put some serious time on these punks and let them fight it out in prison. These guys will belong to Bubba in the big house. Also, like Fla. test everyone for drugs before you hand them a welfare check. If the Governor really want to put some money back in the budget, that would save millions every year.

bluedot

This is a trick question right?

themomx6

If you're going to continue with these "on the street" videos, for heaven's sake, get a better microphone!! I'm tired of listening to the wind blow!

Darkhorse

Video was bad partly because it was done on a windy day.  Can you redo the man on the street video in better weather conditions, maybe in the downtown area away from the water?     

bluedot

Please don't call me an idiot if my opinion differs from yours. I was not born here but I am very familiar with the area. I always thought that when someone shoots, kills with a screwdriver, assaults someone with a hammer, that it was a choice.

Cityslicker

I can't agree enough with Florida and their drug testing for welfare idea. If your on drugs, your cut off and on the street. I'd be willing in my taxes to pay for one free bus ticket to a city of choice, with no return options. Return to the city you got kicked out of, and face instant arrest and incarceration. One more thing is a mandatory death penalty for gun related killings, and mandatory life sentence for gun related assaults. I am smart enough to know that none of these options will be seen in my life time. But after all, it's just my opinion.

Outside lookin in

Sandusky ....What did you think was going to happen?  You got a crooked Prosecutor, the Courts are closed to the citizens, the atheist/government run schools are a mess and the government run agencies are not only protecting the drug dealers but also making money off the influx of drugs into Erie County.  Bad people can't succeed unless Good people do nothing!

Red Baby-Shoes

Outside lookin in is severely misguided. The goverment is and always has been run by extremist chritians who all hate people that don't belive the exact same thing they do.

But honestly we need to start taking a stand. But if we were to defend ourselves against these criminals we would be the ones being charged. I don't like the excuse that they do it because they are poor either. I am low income also. Know what I do? Work. I don't do drugs, don't steal and never disrespect others. Get a job and stop blaming society. Ugh sorry for the rant but I hate criminals >.<

duckie1

Is this a question about SandusKy, Ohio, or Sandusy?  I am confused... sorry, couldn't resist.

Taxpayer

Now, WHAT do you liberals expect?  Here is YOUR example of social justice and progressive liberalism.  Let's review.  When businesses began to close down because of UNIONS, it SHOULD have been a CLUE.  When people began moving OUT and each TEN YEAR census showed a decline of taxpaying families and individuals, it SHOULD have been a CLUE.  When the city became a collection of abandoned, broken windows, commercial and residential buildings to PROVE your monuments to liberal success, it SHOULD have been a CLUE.  When the drop out rate in the liberal, UNION public school system spiked which resulted in the liberal agenda to "dumb down" the standards, it SHOULD have been a CLUE!  When all your products of liberal socialism required taxpayers PAY for these drop out pillars of society (more money for more babies, welfare, food cards, section 8 housing) YOU were NOT giving enough so they had to resort to a higher income bracket called CRIME and "spreading the wealth around."  When liberals in DENIAL BLAME the city commissioners for NOT waving the MAGIC WAND to change (hope and change) people and make them responsible, it SHOULD have been a CLUE.  When liberals who look in the mirror and convince themselves how wonderful they are and BLAME the police, BLAME firearms, BLAME knives, pipes, drugs or the tooth fairy for YOUR misery, it SHOULD have been a CLUE.  With ALL these CLUES, what is the REAL reason for the degradation, depravity, SHAME and FAILURE of a once great city?  I present to you the product of your OWN ignorance and your DENIAL to face the TRUTH.  Why?  Because you liberals EXPECT government to give you paradise while YOU do NOTHING and then BLAME.  If YOU want to change this city around, then YOU do something about it!  Instead of BLAMING renters and city commissioners, YOU do something instead of whining and complaining like typical two-bit losers.  "Duh, I DO be doin something, I'z be payin my taxes."  Sorry freaks, making yourselves "FEEL GOOD" by paying more is NOT working.  When the PEOPLE decide they had enough and decide to do something in conjunction with LE and government services working as a team, THEN there will be some semblance of RESULTS.  Until then, there will NEVER be any improvement and the city will finally morph into the ultimate liberal "sanctuary city" of criminal deviance.  Good luck with that!  You are ALL the results of your own FAILURE and it is speading like cancer.  Don't believe that?  Go to Detroit, Toledo, Cleveland and take a look at the success of liberalism.  Get a CLUE!  Ha! Ha!          

SMF1

I am curious, Taxpayer, are the six letters that make up the word liberal even visible on your keyboard anymore?

The Bizness

 This is for TAXPAYER

And what do you think we should do to change the current situation? 

Unions once served a very important role in American society because they made workplaces safer, gave workers rights, and demanded proper pay. All of which I am sure you recieved at some point in your life due to the work of unions in the past. Sure now they have become pretty damn strong but they still can serve an important role.

As for cities struggling I blame white flight and urban sprawl.  Mostly white affluent people thought that just because  crime was happening the whole city was going to hell so they left even though it really wasn't necessary. So people moved out to the subarbs with their cars which caused demand to go up for gas, which raises price for gas...now China and the rest of Asia is goign through the same process which is causing evne more demand and we all knwo that higher demand cuases higher prices when supply is not being met.  So your conservative friends want to keep drilling and drilling instead of implementing a strategy to allow every house to have a 600 watt wind turbine on their house which could power electric cars and drive our demand for oil down.

You bring nothing construction to these comment sections instead you spread hate and slander.

starryeyes83

A better idea would be  to  take away  their Wic,  Metro and F ood stamps away until they sang like canaries, or threaten to clip them ( both genders) -- no mo' baby  pumpers.  Which  when ya think about it,  Would be a good thing.......

brutus smith

 A better idea would be to have jobs for a lot of these people. Living wage jobs. Would you rather see more people on the street or less? Right wingnuts like 8 ball, can't wrap their mind around that. When we had good paying jobs there were less people milling around. What's so hard to comprehend about that?

donutshopguy

Brutus,

How much is a living wage?  Who do you expect to pay for this entitlement? Those big bad  horrible corporations or the government?

savantpm

For the haters: Doug Leavell's parents have NEVER been on welfare and have been married over fifty years!

R U Kidding me

I don't know about guns and other crimes, But I will say those loud motorcycles are getting out of hand. There so loud at times I can't here all the gun shots in town.

eriemom

Tarriffs to bring jobs back, then forced rehab (prison with medics). I too hate the snich mentality on the street.

unbelievable..

This video was pointless.. but anyway.. its sandusky and all other surrounding cities also.. i havent lived in sandusky long, and i came from a small town that i thought was always small and safe but even that has become drug infested and robberies and people breaking into others houses... its all towns and most of it has to do with drugs or alcohol.. its ridiculous.. get a job like everyone else and buy your own things instead of stealing!!

SamAdams

Oh, for god's sake, Brutus! Are you personally so envious of anyone who has more than you do that you spend all of your time assuming the fact that there are both rich people and poor people causes all ills? I'm far (VERY far!) from rich, but I don't shoot people, I don't steal, and I don't blame everybody and everything but myself when something goes wrong!

As for jobs with a "living wage," I know what THAT'S super secret code for: Another raise (preferably a substantial one) in the minimum wage. How about trying THIS on for size: If you don't want to work a minimum wage job, get yourself some above-minimum-wage SKILLS!

Of course, that would involve not only staying in school but paying attention while you're there. It could also have someting to do with vocational or college training. Oh, and wait! One more thing: It might have a little bit to do with EFFORT! Which is probably why some of these third and fourth generation social programs offspring don't bother.

Most wealthy people got that way because they had a better idea than you, or because they worked a lot harder than you, or both. Inherited money is another story, of course, but that's an accident of birth and not something those BORN wealthy should be punished for. I realize if you had your way that everybody with too much money (and YOU get to define "too much" I'm sure) would have to give everything above a certain amount away. Know what happens if you impose that? The smarter, harder workers won't bother. Yeah, THAT'll bode well for the future!

By the way, Brutus, if you're looking for something above minimum wage yourself, I'm pretty sure ideas like yours qualify you to work in the Obama administration. Job security ain't too hot, though...

brutus smith

 sam a, where did I say I was talking about myself? Put down the bottle before you blog. And you complain teachers make to much money even though they have this education you say other people need. sam, it's 2011, not 1960.

Taxpayer

So NOW it is the BLAME of "white flight" that the city will soon be deemed a combat zone?  Ha! Ha!  I have read a lot of liberal, crybaby complaining before by losers, but this one WINS the liberal "peace" prize for EXCUSES.  So WHAT do YOU mean by "white flight" as the CAUSE for all this decay and urban FAILURE?  Hmm??  I just KNEW it had to be the BLAME of someone.  THIS time it is the BLAME of "white" people??  Man, I could NOT make this stuff up.  I present to you the intelligentsia of critical thinking by a liberal individual who is so miserable in their own ignorance they no longer have ANY cultural or social options.  Absolutely incredible.  BLAME white people for everything?  Ha! Ha!  Thank you for helping me PROVE my points.  Hey, how about BLAMING the tooth fairy as well?  "Boo, hoo, hoo!  I am so miserable from all my liberal values and failures.  I don't get enough entitlements.  It is the BLAME of white people.  It makes me weep!"  Ha! Ha!   

The Bizness

TAXPAYER,

  I am not blaming white people for anything, affluent people simply thought they were living in an increasingly dangerous area so they left and took the money with them. This isn't an opinion it is a fact. There are so many social, economic, and political reasons for crime that is pointless to even argue on whether an area is becoming too dangerous.

Obviously you have never had any training in urban geography or any other sort of social geography because then you would understand. Just wait till the days that suburbia become ghetto's because people can't afford to live 50 miles from their work anymore so they move back to city centers.

I simply was asking what YOU would do to help crime problems. I have no idea what I would do other than keep spending my money in Downtown Sandusky because that is what I think will help the city. What will you do to keep the city of Sandusky a thriving community? Please I think everyone on this website is curious as to your ideas.

donutshopguy

 Brutus,

How about we have a discussion. I am very interested in your "living wage" concept. Please explain what that encompasses. 

Is this a right for all American citizens? What salary would be expected? Would people have to work to receive this ? What other benefits come with this living wage? Health Care? Retirement?

Who's responsibility is it to pay for this "living wage"?  Private businesses or government?

Would this "living wage" differ from state to state depending on the cost of living? My guess is a "living wage" would be different in NYC rather than Sandusky.

Do you tie it into home and car ownership also? How about cell phones and flat screen tv's ?

Your input is required to have a discussion.

 

brutus smith

 A living wage is where we (taxpayers) don't have to subsidize people who are working full time, yet make poverty level wages. The Walton kids (Walmart) are worth 25 billion a piece, so why should we have to subsidize their workers? 

donutshopguy

 Brutus,

Give me a number. Is it $25,000 , $50,000 or maybe $100,000.  Should the government mandate businesses to pay this "living wage" ? Should everyone be paid the same whether they graduate from college or don't finish high school?

There are so many factors to consider. Please give us your insight.

brutus smith

 You asked for something, I gave it to you, and you totally avoid it. 

donutshopguy

 Brutus,

So the Walton kids should support all their employees to what level of pay?  What's you definition of a "living wage' You gave me nothing.

brutus smith

 A wage where they don't have to rely on food stamps, medical care, utily help. Of course it is different in different areas of the country. Your mind not capable of wrapping around this? Very simple really. Does it bother you that the Waltons would only be worth 15 billion a piece?

donutshopguy

 brutus,

Do these people that need medical care, utility assistance and food stamps have cell phones, cable tv and cars? Do they drink and smoke? Do they have more children than they can support? Can you get your head around these are luxuries ? Did these people avail themselves of all the opportunity given them in education?

Guess what? Sam Walton started dirt poor. Sam Walton attained everything through hard work. Should he give you his money because you don't want to put forth the effort and you deserve a "living wage".

Be the first in your neighborhood to hand over your belongings to one of these people. It's their right to what you have? Correct?

 

brutus smith

 With your phlilosophy donut, the Walton kids should be running all the stores themselves with no hired help. I say if you are a business owner and "can't afford" to pay a living wage either A, don't hire anyone and do all the work yourself, or B, get out of business.

donutshopguy

 My philosophy is "if you make it, it's your to spend any way you like."

Brutus philosophy is " if you make it, your obligated to give some to me because I want it."

brutus smith

 Go have another donut, let that sugar eat the rest of your mind. If you can't or won't answer the question go to another story.

donutshopguy

 Brutus,

A business owner can pay whatever wage, beyond minimum wage, he feels is necessary to keep his employees. If his employees don't feel they are being paid enough they can look for better employment. They are not obligated to stay at that company or except that rate of pay.

Why is this so difficult for you to grasp. Somewhere your belief in entitlement has crept into the economics of private business. So again, be the first on your block to give away all your belongings because your neighbor is entitled to your mysterious "living wage" concept.

brutus smith

 donut, who is asking for anyone to give up everything? You don't think the Walton kids could live comfortably on 15 billion? Really?

donutshopguy

 Brutus,

Is it their money or yours?

You want them to give up their money because your jealous? 

You go first. Show those bad Walton kids how it's done. Come on, show what a great guy you are. Lead by example.

brutus smith

 The sad part is people like you are allowed to vote.

donutshopguy

 Brutus,

Really? 

I am honored by the privileged that you and I, in this country, can voice our opinions at the ballot box. 

Sorry, you don't feel likewise.

Captain Gutz

brutus says,

"...they don't have to rely on food stamps, medical care, utily[sic] help."

I can't believe you want to pull the plug on these entitlements. Children will starve because of you.

Say, how's your start-up business going?

Erie County Resident

hey bs pile stop dodging the question and put a NUMBER to your response.

How much $$$$ is a living wage in your opinion. Give us a number not a bunch of babble.

brutus smith

ecr, eat tihs. 

SamAdams

Brutus, since your comments on almost every story end up involving the disparity between rich and poor, and since you've repeatedly posted that it's that disparity that a) needs to be addressed to b) solve pretty much all of our problems, it's pretty much impossible to think other than that's part of your personal mindset...

If it's NOT, and you're among the rich, I apologize and ask that you send me a check for my share of your wealth. That is how it's supposed to work...isn't it?

brutus smith

 So sam a, you think the more disparity there is the better our country will be? Where are all these good paying jobs at sam? I'm concerned about the next generation sam, something I know you could give 2 stihs about. More education use to mean more money. Not anymore. And this is good how?

patriot5
No doubt more jobs would help deter crime. However most of these criminals have arrest records a mile long. I bet ½ of them wouldn’t take or be able to hold down an honest job if it hit them in the head!. More about living the thug life and being a banger.   I dislike Wal Mart, but they do employee people; not sure about today but their mid-level and up employees (buyers, etc) used to make good money. Just because they are worth billions, how does that entitle you to it? What is a bagger worth, $20/hr? You do not have to work there nor shop there, that’s simple. There are still a few decent paying jobs out there, but most require a skill and some type of training. Some of these jobs stay vacant a long time; we had a specific cnc opening that took 4 months to fill. I will say this though, while posting job ads, I read some of the other postings. It is obvious that some of the wages are falling, and that many more manufactures are relying on staffing leaches. Never felt that I was “owed” anything, other than “benefits” from the service. Whats wrong with being accountable for yourself, working hard and learning; a jobs a job, use it while going to school or until a better one comes along.    Remember kiddies, work hard everyday; many illegals and those who wont rely on you!
totallyamazed

More gunshots ring out in the quaint, sleepy little town of 29,000 this morn.  Most likely from a car load of "good kids" that were "excellent students".  Where oh where did society go wrong in raising these troubled souls? {{eyeballs rolling}}

More "good times" on the North Coast.

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The tt

>>>sleepy little town of 29000 this morn."

>>>>29000

Nope.  Not even 10 years ago.  Definitely not disagreeing with your point though, as shots ringing out  with increasing frequency is why it's closer to 25000 or less.

cockynurse

 I love Sandusky.  It was where I was born, raised, had my children, and have been raising them.  I am college educated, married, homeowner, and have a good job.  Wasn't born into luck or money.  I have worked very hard to get to where I am in my life and I did it without public assistance.  April of this year, I said-enough is enough.  We packed our things and moved out of town.   So, here we are-paying for a house that we are no longer living in, paying someone to keep up with the yard work for that house, and paying to live somewhere else.  Small price to pay to get my children the heck away from all of the senseless violence in Sandusky.  

 

A few posters below had some very valid points/suggestions:

 

I absolutely agree with drug testing for public assistance; although, there must be a back-up plan to ensure that all of the children of drug users do not go hungry.

 

Pressure needs to be put on the judges and prosecutors of the city and county to start cracking down on offenders, especially repeat offenders.

 

 

 

NurseMeg

Violence and crime are everywhere; what's the point in packing up your life and moving elsewhere?

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Next Word on the Street: Is water too wet?  Later: Is the Pope too Catholic?

I Judge you

I'm starting to think brutus smith and taxpayer are the same person.

Truth or Dare

Anyone read the Police Blotter from Tues. 6-21?  There was an assault early Sat. a.m.  of  a  21 yr old male who was walking home.  It was the most indepth blotter report I ever remember reading.  He was assaulted @ Reese and Hancock by men and women who referred to  themselves as  the "Hancock Kings".  The chica's must be their Queens?  They wore white bandanas hanging from their back pockets. Wonder what the bandanas represent?   Back in the day when I was growing up this was called being "ganged up on".   Seems to me the "wanna-be's" have graduated!   After having a conversation w/an elderly ex-Commissioner who'se home was burglarized recently,  I've learned that an awful lotta assaults, burglaries, shootings are going on that we don't even hear about!  What's up w/that?   I would be curious to know what might be known about this group.    

There was another assault early Sunday a.m.. that wasn't in the blotter.   Yep, another young one walking home from a family friends' wedding reception.  Lured by 2 men, right into an assault by 4 men @ W. Monore and Fulton.  Darn good thing they were strong enough to break free, and could run faster!  They too made it into the Hosp. ER doors.  Thanks to Officer Cottrell of the SPD (I believe that was the name on the card given),  they made it  home w/just a busted up eye, cuts and scrapes,.  Those were the physical injuries.  Thank you Officer C. for SERVING AND PROTECTING, and God Bless ya!!!

Thanks to a wonderful teacher by the name of Mr. Shields @ SHS, I learned and decided a long time ago that rather than continue to be a victim, I would/could be a survivor.  Thank you Mr. Shields!!!  What do I see on the horizon for Sandusky?    A rise in apps. for CCW's from people like me.  People that feel they should be able to walk the streets of their hometown whether it be before or after dark!    

 

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