Poll: Half of older workers delay retirement plans

Most cite financial needs as reasons why they continue to work
Associated Press
Oct 15, 2013

There was a time when Tom Sadowski thought he'd stop working after turning 65 earlier this year. But he's put off retirement for at least five years — and now anticipates continuing to do some work afterward.

In an illuminating sign of changing times and revised visions of retirement, an Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll released Monday finds older Americans like Sadowski not only are delaying their retirement plans, they're also embracing the fact that it won't necessarily mark a complete exit from the workforce.

Some 82 percent of workers 50 and older say it is at least somewhat likely they will work for pay in retirement. And 47 percent of them now expect to retire later than they previously thought — on average nearly three years beyond their estimate when they were 40. Men, racial minorities, parents of minor children, those earning less than $50,000 a year and those without health insurance were more likely to put off their plans.

The recession claimed Sadowski's business and a chunk of his savings, and with four teenage daughters, the graphic designer from Sterling, Va., accepts the fact he won't retire for another five years or more.

"At this age, my dad had already been retired 10 years and moved to Florida," he said. "Times are different now for most people."

About three-quarters of respondents said they have given their retirement years some or a great deal of thought. When considering factors that are very or extremely important in their retirement decisions, 78 percent of workers cited financial needs, 75 percent said health, 68 percent their ability to do their job and 67 percent said their need for employer benefits such as health insurance.

"Many people had experienced a big downward movement in their 401k plans, so they're trying to make up for that period of time when they lost money," said Olivia Mitchell, a retirement expert who teaches at the University of Pennsylvania.

The shift in retirement expectations coincides with a growing trend of later-life work. Labor force participation of seniors fell for a half-century after the advent of Social Security, but began picking up in the late 1990s. Older adults are now the fastest-growing segment of the American workforce; people 55 and up are forecast to make up one-fourth of the civilian labor force in 2020.

That growth has paralleled a rising interest in retirements that are far more active than the old stereotype of moving to Florida, never to work again. Among those who retired, 4 percent are looking for a job and 11 percent are already working again. Those still on the job showed far greater interest in continuing to work: Some 47 percent of employed survey respondents said they are very or extremely likely to do some work for pay in retirement and 35 percent said they are somewhat likely.

"The definition of retirement has changed," said Brad Glickman, a certified financial planner with a large number of baby-boomer clients in Chevy Chase, Md. "Now the question we ask our clients is, 'What's your job after retirement?'"

One such retiree who returned to the workforce is Clara Marion, 69, of Covington, La., a teacher who retired in 2000 and went back to work a year later. She retired again in 2007 but soon returned to part-time work because she needed the money.

When she first retired, she had about $100,000 in savings, but she has used much of that up. Her pension isn't enough to pay her bills, and she isn't eligible for Social Security. So she's back in a second-grade classroom, four days a week.

"I'd love to be sleeping in," she said, "but I will probably never retire."

Though Marion's finances are primarily what keep her working, she says she enjoys her work, in line with other survey respondents reporting exceptional job satisfaction. Nine out of 10 workers in the study said they are very or somewhat satisfied with their job.

Increased lifespans and a renewed idea of when old age begins are also fueling more work among older adults. Six in 10 people said they feel younger than their age; only 6 percent said they feel older. Respondents said the average person is old at about 72. One in 5 said it depends on the person.

Even so, one-third of retired survey respondents said they did not stop working by choice. The figures were higher within certain demographic groups: racial minorities, those with less formal education or lower household incomes were more likely to feel they had no option but to retire. Eight percent say they were forced from a job because of their age. In interviews, survey respondents cited health as well as layoffs followed by unsuccessful job searches.

David Sandersfeld, 62, of Dayville, Ore., was laid off from his park ranger job two years ago. He had hoped to stay on the job until he was 70, but his search for a new job was fruitless. So almost a decade sooner than expected, he retired.

"It came sooner than I was hoping," he said. "The economy doesn't need me, so I guess I'll just retire."

Others, like Margaret Yarborough, 86, of Scranton, S.C., had their plans thwarted by health. She had hoped to keep working as a department store sales clerk forever, but a car accident and arthritis made it impossible, so she retired a few years ago.

"I sure would like to work," she said. "I enjoy being with people. I enjoy having the income."

The AP-NORC Center survey was conducted Aug. 8 through Sept. 10 by NORC at the University of Chicago, with funding from the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, which makes grants to support original research and whose Working Longer program seeks to expand understanding of work patterns of aging Americans.

It involved landline and cellphone interviews in English and Spanish with 1,024 people aged 50 and older nationwide. Results from the full survey have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4.1 percentage points.

Though a roughly equal share of survey participants reported feeling secure about retirement savings as feeling anxious, a significant minority gave signs of financial stress: One in 6 reported having less than $1,000 in retirement savings and 1 in 4 working respondents aren't saving for retirement outside of Social Security. Some 12 percent of unretired people reported borrowing from a 401(k) or other retirement plan in the past year. Though 29 percent reported at least $100,000 in savings, some find even that's not enough.

"All too often, people have a lump-sum illusion. They think, 'I have $100,000 in my 401k,' and they think, 'I'm rich,'" said Mitchell. "But it doesn't add up to much. It certainly is not going to keep them in champagne and truffles."

Dolores Gonzalez, 57, of Coalinga, Calif., expects no luxuries in retirement. She'll be happy if she can simply afford her $2,200 monthly mortgage payment. She used to think she would retire from teaching at 65; now she says she'll never stop working.

She had been strained by helping to support her parents. Now she has less than $200 in savings and she worries about sustaining herself in retirement when all she'll have is a Social Security check.

"A lot of people don't save because the cost of living is so high," she said. "Retirement is not going to be comfortable. It's going to be hard."

Comments

Contango

Not surprising as the Fed. Reserve has for yrs. consistently driven down the value of the dollar through cheap money policies like Quantitative Easing (QE) and a Zero Interest Rate Policy (ZIRP).

Americans are working harder and longer while the inflation adjusted value of their savings & incomes decline.

http://www.macrotrends.net/1329/...

About the ONLY way to potentially climb out of the retirement investment hole currently is to invest in stocks. BUT, how long the Mkt. will continue to rise is ANYONE'S guess.

"Tepper: No taper for 'long time' to push up stocks"

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101112707

kingd

I retired recently at age 63. I consider myself fortunate to be able to do that. I think it's sad that the cost of living is so high and the retirement age risen. There would be more work available to the young folks who are raising families if the older population wasn't being forced to continue working well into their senior years.

Peninsula Pundit

Just part of the plan to impoverish America.
Folks who had pensions would not be affected by the market swings of a 401k. But it costs companies more to have pensions.
So they cheaped out and made everyone get a 401k.
How many times have you heard this story about the market tanking meaning older folks still have to work?
So the fix is in for corporations, with the magpie assent of many of the types that post on these boards screaming to have every social safety net pulled out from underneath their neighbors.
Younger people find it harder to find jobs.
If they have families, their children are being affected monetarily.
These parents grow old, live longer and their children lose more ground financially.
It is a pretty simple mind that just keeps promoting corporate interests disguised as 'fiscal responsibility' that is only visited on the majority of Americans, with the richest reaping more and more.
And yet, for some very convoluted reasoning, they not only consider themselves 'Americans' but 'patriots.'

deertracker

Well said!

Contango

Re: "So they cheaped out and made everyone get a 401k."

1. Sustainable long term payouts in defined benefit (DB) plans are difficult to calculate in a volatile economic and interest rate environment.

2. Govt. increased the requirements, the rules and regs of DB plans, making them more costly to administrate.

3. Not every corp provides for a 401(k).

4. Defined contribution (DC) plans are easier to fund because they are a known quantity as a percentage of payroll.

--------------------------------

Re: "How many times have you heard this story about the market tanking meaning older folks still have to work?"

Don't put all your eggs in one basket - diversification and asset allocation.

Where do you think that public and private pension plans invest their retirement assets?

One of the MAJOR problems in the U.S.?

The level of financial and economic ignorance in this country is pathetic.

tk

But we can spell. We even know how to spell the word consistently.

Contango

Re: "But we can spell."

Thanks for the catch.

Hopefully reading comprehension coincides with your proofing talent.

Dr. Information

The level of financial and economic ignorance in this country is pathetic.....spot on Contango.

thinkagain

Waa waa waa – I can’t retire until I’m dead! Well whose fault is that?

Let’s see, I raised a family, invested, bought and sold real estate and retired at 55. If I can do it, any smuck with half a brain should be able to also. Live well within your means and only use credit as a temporary fix, not a lifestyle.

Informed

The holier-than-thou Christian strikes again! Where is your empathy and compassion--you know, those traits that Christians are supposed to have?

thinkagain

I see you’re back to making uninformed assumptions again. Have you ever thought of trying a different tack, or is having a normal dialog beyond your skill set?

You must really be down on your luck to come on here and beg. Let me know your address, I’ll send you a few bucks. Even though helping people like you, who won’t help themselves, is a lesson in futility.

Informed

Truth hurts, doesn't it? And since my spouse and I have a six-figure income, I don't think I need your money.

Contango

Re: "since my spouse and I have a six-figure income,"

Remember: It ain't what you make, it's what you keep.

Lota bozos make millions of dollars over the span of a lifetime and have squat to show of it.

Informed

We're doing fine, thank you for your concern.

Contango

Re: "We're doing fine,"

Hope the "good times" continue for you.

Informed

So do I. We have worked hard and been very blessed. Spouse works 50-90 hours a week. But we do not begrudge those that need help, whether it be through taxes or private donations.

Contango

Re: "private donations."

I'm fine with the above.

However, the kleptocrats in DC who pander with taxpayer dollars for votes are another matter entirely.

thinkagain

OK my little troll buddy, but if you ever come up a little short, hit me up. I’m there for you!

meowmix

You have serious issues that obviously your god isn't helping you overcome. Maybe put down the bibull and go see a therapist eh?

Contango

Re: "your god isn't helping you overcome"

And your belief in the political "Hope & Change" fantasy is better?

deertracker

So you are independently wealthy thanks to all the great decisions you've made yet you still feel the need to put others down. Does that make you feel like a big man or superior to all? The usual suspects are sickening!

thinkagain

Do you feel superior now that you have put me and others down?

See def: Hypocrite

Contango

Re: "Hypocrite"

Deer is on SSDI and Medicaid - a ward of the State.

thinkagain

So that’s why he’s such a bitter lib!

Contango

Re: "a bitter lib!"

Yea, you'd think that he would be thankful to those that help provide room, board and medical care for him and his spouse wouldn't ya?

Instead, he's just greedy and wants more, more, more.

deertracker

Did you just misquote me?

OMG.LOL.WT_

Don't worry, be happy. Just build your portfolio to $500,000.00. Ha Ha Ha
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