Ohio to limit food stamps for some adults

Gov. John Kasich to set work requirement for able-bodied adults without children.
Associated Press
Sep 8, 2013

 

The administration of Ohio Gov. John Kasich plans to limit food stamps for more than 130,000 adults in all but a few economically depressed areas starting next year.

According to The (Columbus) Dispatch, the requirement will cover able-bodied adults without children.

They will be required to spend at least 20 hours a week working, training for a job, volunteering or performing a similar type of activity unless they live in one of 16 high-unemployment counties.

The requirements begin next month but those failing to meet them would not lose benefits until Jan. 1.

More than 1.8 million Ohioans receive food stamps.

The exempt counties are Adams, Brown, Clinton, Coshocton, Highland, Huron, Jefferson, Meigs, Monroe, Morgan, Muskingun, Noble, Ottawa, Perry, Pike and Scioto.

"It's important that we provide more than just a monetary benefit, that we provide job training, an additional level of support that helps put (food-stamp recipients) on a path toward a career and out of poverty," Ben Johnson, spokesman for the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, told the newspaper.

For years, Ohio has taken advantage of a federal waiver exempting food-stamps recipients from the work requirements that Kasich championed while U.S. House Budget Committee chairman during the mid-1990s.

"The governor believes in a work requirement," Kasich spokesman Rob Nichols said Friday. "But when the economy is bad and people are hurting, the waiver can be helpful. Now, fortunately, Ohio's economy is improving."

An estimated 134,000 adults will be subject to the work requirements. They are ages 18 to 50, without children under 18, and deemed to be physically and mentally able to participate, Johnson said.

County officials who administer public assistance and advocates for the poor predict the requirement will take food stamps away from thousands of Ohioans.

Comments

SamAdams

It's about time! I work for a paycheck; YOU work for a paycheck. Why shouldn't anyone able to work do so? I'd frankly go even further, though, and make the requirement the same whether you've got kids or not.

One question, though: While I understand that in certain counties the requirement to actually get a PAYING job is being waived — at least for now — why can't those people still work to fulfill their work requirement? If the new rules say that volunteering is accepted as a job, and job training is accepted as a job, why should any able-bodied adult anywhere need to be exempt?

Now if only we could institute the drug testing requirement... Again, if I have to be drug tested for a job, and YOU have to be drug tested for a job, how is it that the people you and I effectively give a paycheck are exempt?

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2cents

What, and I would lose 1,815,695 dependents to claim on my income taxes : )

registerer

Like!

TOPGUN01

TRAIN FOR WHAT JOBS?WENDYS?BURGER KING!WALLMART?ALL PART TIME AT BEST!WHY ONLY THE HARDEST HIT CO?IF YOU HAVE NO INCOME?HOW DO YOU PAY FOR?AND GET TO?SCHOOL,AND PAY FOR IT?GET TO THE PLACE YOU VOLUNTEERING?AND YOU HAVE NO MEDICAL BENEFITS?I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM ALL BACK TO WORK BUT THIS IS THE REAL WORLD.

ladydye_5

So you are ok with an able bodied 32 year old man, who CAN work but chooses to sit on his butt and collect FOOD STAMPS? Why can this 32 year old man not work 3 of your said part time jobs to support himself? I worked 3 jobs when I was out of school. QUIT BEING LAZY! QUIT WHINING about it!

swiss cheese kat

I hate when b!tches act like they too good to do sh1t. Who got food stamps for sale?

JudgeMeNot

I forgive you for being an assshat for all caps.

ladydye_5

like

candleburner

There are jobs out there if people are willing to take them. And yeah I mean Wendys, Burger King and Walmart! No they're not the best job in the world but as my mom used to tell me, $.50 an hour is better than $.00 an hour! And if you're looking at having your food stamps cut off isn't even that little bit coming in better than nothing at all?? I know that Olive Garden offers benefits starting the first day you're employed - at least that's what they put on their little sign at the edge of the road when they start looking for new employees - and Walmart (I believe) also offers benefits but I'm not positive about that. Most places are going to be looking for new employees since kids have gone back to school (high school and/or college) and most of them will offer benefits and heck even the hospital offers benefits to their employees - I know that one for fact since I'm a former employee. You may have to give up a few things (like smoking for example if you want to work at the hospital) but if you don't have a job and the state is paying for your food thru food stamps, how are you paying for cigarettes? I think this is a really good thing and I don't know why it's being limited to certain counties in Ohio but TopGun you seem like you've got an awful lot of excuses that don't really hold a lot of water in my opinion.

eightballcuet1

There is no shame in working in the fast food industry. A part time job at BK or Wendy's is better than no job at all.

Simple Enough II

Sure some folks are down on their luck no fault of their own, but how many milk the system or brought their current situation upon themselves? My response would be to damn man are at fault.

FlatTop

I agree, it's way past time to start enacting these rule. But why stop at age 50? People have to work way past 50 to get SS benefits!

InGodsArmy

I agree, Im 51 and I have two jobs. Both required schooling which I paid for, Not the government, or my parents.

phroggy

TOPGUN is afraid of getting dirty apparently. I think it's time to put on some big boy pants and find a job. Not everyone starts at the top. See, I baled hay when I was 15 and it taught me about hard work for pennies. Then I did the fast food thing and learned that it DOES have a future but just wasn't for me. Now, I used all that knowledge and landed a job with medical insurance, vacation time and totally decent money. I support a family and help the economy. I pay taxes to the government, not steal from it for being a lazy slob. PS: no need to scream. See that little button to the left of the keyboard that says 'caps lock'? Push it!!

Sam

Great comment.

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2cents

"baled hay when I was 15"

And I ran a chopper gun laying up fiberglass boats at 14. Unfortunately big brother is stepping in to protect us all some more, and our youth that want to work can't do this kind of work until they are 18, they can't even cook at a food place until they are 16 I believe. I tried to get a 15 year old a job in a welding shop, because he can weld, but no way 18 min! So go play with you I phone till your 18, steal some $$ for fun, hang out on the streets, you will be much safer. Oops! we won't though.

The Big Dog's back

Did you walk 5 miles to school uphill, in blizzard conditions too?

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2cents

Actually kindergarten to sixth grade I walked 1/2 a mile, we went back to where I grew up and measured it, both summer and winter, rain, snow or shine with books under arm, lunch bag in hand and on gym days, a gym bag in the other hand too. No tennis shoes or jeans and shorts, we had a dress code so it was hard shoes, dress slacks and button down down shirts. We had two crossing guards at intersections and there were no busses, it was a good size city and you walked because they had like 10 grade schools for one high school. There were never any mothers lined up dropping and picking up kids, they were home doing house work or at their jobs.

deertracker

"Cry me a river"******Justin Timberlake

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2cents

Nothing to cry about dt, it was life as it was and all was fine, when we came home we threw our books down, ran outside to play dodge ball in the street, I played back yard football with a broken arm, the other kids got out of the way when I came at them with that cast in their face : )

swiss cheese kat

deer slacker got dem food stamps for sale fifty cent for every two dollars.

44846GWP

lol!!

Donegan

It is hard to explain what a school is to big dog, He never went. When it comes to walking anywhere he believe walking up the 23 steps from his mothers basement is too far to walk for anything let alone someone trying to teach you something.

rezzy

At least he's not lazy and got off his couch puppy! How about you?

Licorice Schtick

So... The solution to our problems is to allow 14-year-olds to run chopper guns, or do other hazardous work in heavy industry?

Contango

Re: "The exempt counties are Adams, Brown, Clinton, Coshocton, Highland, Huron, Jefferson, Meigs, Monroe, Morgan, Muskingun, Noble, Ottawa, Perry, Pike and Scioto."

What's to prevent the migration of recipients to the exempt counties?

Licorice Schtick

The cost of moving.

Contango

Re: "The cost of moving."

Murphy's Law: If it can be done, it will.

deertracker

There goes the neighborhood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

swiss cheese kat

Yep, the suspooks seeking and exemption will be moving.

buckeye15

Oh, if only you could see just how silly you sound.

deertracker
grandmasgirl

I am sure that some have already packed their car up to move to these counties. I know someone with a mild TBI and he gets food stamps and is on disability. He lives with his mother who has a VERY good paying job. And his fiance is also employed. I can't figure the system out. I believe some need help, others just use the system. And then there are some on here who believe that no one should have to work for a living. We all know who their names are.

Minuteman

So you can volunteer to work for the government to keep the food stamps coming? A good part of the problem is lack of decent paying jobs. That's what needs to be corrected, not further dependence on the government.

Isn't working for a few hours to get your handout the definition of socialism?

The food stamp EBT program is designed for dependency. It will keep the poor in fear of losing the entitlement so those in charge stay in charge.

A real solution would be to revert back to food banks as the source for food for the needy. Then none of the needy would go hungry. They would again have the basics, nothing fancy, to live on while they worked to better their situation. A dollar into a food bank program goes 10 times farther than a dollar in the present food stamp program, and you know the kids are fed with food banks.
Then the problem of the government killing jobs and opportunity may be addressed, once people aren't in fear of going hungry because they voted the wrong way.

Contango

Re: "revert back to food banks as the source for food for the needy."

Agreed.

Push govt. down to the most local level, i.e. anarchy.

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2cents

Yes, keep it public and big brother out. I have donated to food banks, rather do that than see $$ or cards handed out that control little.

Darkhorse

This is a good idea. The country needs to break the chain of generation after generation on food stamps. The person receiving the food stamps need to do something to match the money going out.

Contango

BTW:

Govt. subsidies to food producers have caused massive malinvestments and waste. Your tax dollars at work:

"USDA Sugar-Loan Risk Growing as Domestic Glut Spurs Forfeitures"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/20...

Licorice Schtick

Yep, corporate welfare, pretty outrageous. But that's what food stamps is, just a taxpayer-funded scheme to sell more unhealthy food industry products in excessive amounts that make people sick, so the medical industry loves it too.

If you want to cut the cost of food stamps, instead of feeding fewer people, provide healthier food in appropriate amounts.

sandtown born a...

They advertise for the farmers market in the town where I work they will double the value of food stamps for fruits and vegetables.

Contango

Re: "provide healthier food in appropriate amounts."

Liberal nonsense.

arnmcrmn

If you want to cut the cost of food stamps, instead of feeding fewer people, provide healthier food in appropriate amounts."

Another failed Michelle Obama program.

starryeyes83

What about all those baby factories who keep popping out kids year after year?

Those people are the biggest culprits.

And yes, by all means start drug testing all.

Test for MORE than just cannabis.

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BULLISDEEP

The one's that have kids don't have to do this .

According to The (Columbus) Dispatch, the requirement will cover able-bodied adults without children.

starryeyes83

Yes, I read it, but they still should go after the ones who keep having kids, too.

Period.

deertracker

Are you 100 years old?

JudgeMeNot

Probably not. But I can guarantee she is smarter than you.

starryeyes83

@ deertracker

Nope, 48, in ten days. Don't get the age question, but whatever.

Trolling my comments, again?

vigilante

hey topgun.. iac in huron is hiring for factory jobs...start is 11.50 an hr.. call flextemp and set an appointment up.. now whats your excuse...

ladydye_5

Oh yeah well, Topgun doesn't want to work in a factory. It is hot and sweaty and they might get dirty. And that is only 11.50 an hour. And um an interview would cut into the XBOX marathon. The problem today is SOME (notice I said SOME) of the able bodied people choose NOT to work. They like living off the system. They do not WANT to work. They prefer to sit on the couch and do NOTHING. Fast food is beneath them and factory is to hot/dirty/hard work. Whatever happened to the people that worked 1, 2 or even 3 jobs to support their families?

The Big Dog's back

"Whatever happened to the people that worked 1, 2 or even 3 jobs to support their families?" You mean when you actually got decent pay and could get ahead when doing that?

swiss cheese kat

Do you always answer a question with a question? I always liked the question, “So, what's your story?

Mum-of-One

So doing the table for an average family of four, full time employment at IAC for 11.50 per hour, on an average of 40 hours per week, if you get 40 hours per week. Sometimes if it is not busy there will be "lay offs". You would still be eligible for $395 to $405 in SNAP benefits per month. This would hardly solve the problem. Just imagine if the majority of employed in IAC are all eligible for SNAP benefits or even only half being eligible that is quite a responsibility that needs to be met. IAC are benefiting by paying low wages which in turn qualifies many many employees for benefits. Who wins here?

The Big Dog's back

Shades of Nazi Germany coming right here to Ohio. You should be ecstatic pooh.

Simple Enough II

Hey windy richard, nazi's were socialist!

The Big Dog's back

Next thing kassick will be building is ovens.

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2cents

Maybe they can make them in Sandusky?

buckeye15

Not likely. Kasich as a US representative voted for NAFTA and numerous other outsourcing deals.

Contango

Re: "Kasich as a US representative voted for NAFTA,"

Off-topic; however:

"Ohio exports to Mexico, Korea, Netherlands led 2012 increase"

http://www.bizjournals.com/colum...

NAFTA appears to be profitable for OH.

buckeye15

Yes your comment is off topic, but at least it supports Kasich would outsource his oven building to Mexico. Thank you.

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2cents

http://www.peerlessovens.com

Right here in town, they are taking the Mexico comment to heart : )

Maybe get more efficient with conveyors : 0

http://www.lewcoinc.com/

Contango

Re: "Kasich would outsource his oven building to Mexico."

Absurdist nonsense.

arnmcrmn

stay on topic dog.

Simple Enough II

Windy Richard, why do you try to put governor kasich in the same category as Adolph Hitler? Didn't Butler use class warfare and also promised folks jobs & food along with taking over education with indoctrination as a rule? Sounds like our current white house & its administration!

Unassumer

Not everyone receiving food stamps is lazy or doesn't want to work. Some people have no transportation and live in areas where work is mostly seasonal (Ottawa Co). Some older have had difficulties finding work because despite the law, companies do not like to hire those over 50. Many people would much rather work but if there are no opportunities or one is being overlooked because of age, then they have few choices. If you're lucky enough to have a year-round job that's great. Some are not and have to rely on unemployment and food stamps in the winter. They are not sitting around getting high and not looking for work as unemployment requires one to look for work and report where they did so.

RNR

They will be required to spend at least 20 hours a week working, training for a job, volunteering or performing a similar type of activity unless they live in one of 16 high-unemployment counties.

It does not say that you MUST work... training, volunteering. And transportation.... walking, biking, getting a ride, transit, taxi, etc.

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nightroller

Give them drug tests too if they want food stamps .... I had to take tests if I did not want to lose my job ...

RNR

They need to give foodstamps to the hard working people who barley get by. I know several people (myself included) who are very hardworking, and some even work, attend school, take care of their children, take care of their house etc. and can barley make it. It is very unfair to
make “too much” to get assistance, but not enough to get by, while others do nothing and get assistance.

deertracker

Agreed!

OMG.LOL.WT_

"They need to give foodstamps to the hard working people who barley get by."

If you get by on only eating barley, would that be barely getting by?

RNR

Obviously you are correct. Thank you for pointing out my error.

Pterocarya frax...

SamAdams, I truly find your comments about drug testing hilarious. You are one of the biggest screamers about 4th amendment rights ... well at least as long as they are "your" 4th amendment rights.

There is a reason no states are drug testing for welfare and SNAP benefits. Florida's testing law for TANF in 2011 has been found unconstitutional by 2 different courts, as have been every other attempt at this sort of thing.

Just so I make myself clear, drug testing for welfare is a violation of "our" constitutional rights. Yes that is right. When Florida tested the brown skinned lady with 6 kids, it not only violated her constitutional rights, it violated your rights, and my rights, and the constitutional rights of every person reading this.

What most of you haters don't seem to get, is that SNAP is a far greater giveaway to your corporate overlords than it is to the poor people of America. I actually agree, at least to an extent, with some of the conservatives on here about moving more towards food banks, and /or other alternative systems and reform, but that will never happen as long as the corporations continue to run congress and the state legislatures the way they do now. Heck, last year an Indiana republican proposed a bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients, but he withdrew the bill when a democrat successfully added an amendment that required drug testing of state lawmakers as well. What does that tell you about their priorities?

deertracker

That's Sham Adams to you!

JudgeMeNot

I'm guessing when you were 19, you mastered name calling and masturbating like every other 19 year old.

deertracker

I refuse to discuss my sex life with a pervert!!!!! LOL!

buckeye15

Took you till 19 to master those 2 things?? A bit slow, if you don't mind me saying so.

Sorry, that was meant for JudgeMeNot, not Deertracker.

Contango

Re: "SNAP is a far greater giveaway to your corporate overlords,"

Twisted logic Caucasian wingnut.

So how is it that the modern food stamp program was begun by LBJ and the Democrats?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo...

Pterocarya frax...

Tell me how that is twisted logic. Big Agriculture spends hundreds of millions of dollars every year buying politicians of all flavors, to make sure they continue to get their SNAP program and all their farm subsidies. Yes democrats are very guilty too.

But if you want the rest of the story, Bob Dole (R) of Kansas, is considered one of the fathers of the modern day food stamp program when he helped bring about changes to "stop the greedy and feed the needy":

http://www.kansas.com/2013/08/31...

Pterocarya frax...

Also, it seems to me that since you claim to be a libertarian, that you would be all over the constitutional issues, but you continue to ignore that, and only harp on the fact that democrats started the program.

That speaks volumes about you and your allegiances.

Contango

Re: "democrats started the program."

It's a FACT that the Dems DID start the program and that in no way has any bearings on my libertarian leanings Comrade.

Who give a sh*t about what Sen. Dole (R) did or did not do?

H*ll, FDR proposed a "Second Bill of Rights," making food a right.

Pres. Obama has voiced support for the "Second Bill of Rights."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sec...

I'm more concerned with the socialists (Dems), than the socialists-lite (Repubs) at this juncture.

Doesn't really matter, as nothing will change until after the coming economic collapse - too many "takers" and not enough "makers."

deertracker

You just got OWNED!

Contango

Re: "You just got OWNED!"

Only in your delusion.

You don't believe that food should be a "right" Comrade?

Pterocarya frax...

Oooooh, I must have nicked a nerve with that one....2 cuss words and you worked in a "comrade". Good job! I know Americans for Prosperity pays you extra every time you work socialism or communism into the conversation.

My point about Dole was to offset the point you made about who started the program, which offered NOTHING to the conversation, except to deflect attention away from the constitutional issues. Again, you offer only criticisms, and never solutions.

Contango

Re: "My point about Dole"

Yea, let's just ignore Sen. Harkin (D-IA) and the ethanol PLUS other farm subsidies.

The FACT is that your argument that the food stamp program is primarily for the benefit of the "corporate overlords" who in your delusional mind are 'somehow' all Repubs has enough holes in it for a wheel of Swiss cheese.

Also, who but a Marxist influenced useful idiot would use the term "corporate overlords"?

Lastly, I have to remind myself that I'm foolishly attempting to communicate with a Caucasian wingnut.

Pterocarya frax...

And again, you try to deflect away from the constitutional issues and the real causes of all these problems....the fact that all politicians are corporate owned, and make everyone believe that it is only the fault of democrats.

I understand it makes you feel powerful to call people communists and names, so to make you feel better, I am happy to be your little whipping girl, but in return, I will point out your hypocrisy.

Contango

Re: "all politicians are corporate owned,"

Simplistic nonsense.

Washington/"Wall St." is a revolving door - difficult if not impossible to separate the two.

It's called corporatism or fascism; that which the State does not directly own and control, it heavily regulates for it's benefit.

To the point and to the topic: Research the history of food stamps and you will see that the concept was originated during the FDR Admin. Democrat right?

Do you own any retirement assets? If so, YOU are part of your perceived "problem" of the "corporate overlords."

You write as a socialist; if the shoe fits... It's not "name calling" if it's the truth.

Pterocarya frax...

Man if I am part of the problem, what does that make you?

I will never stoop to being a corporate fascist, so if that makes me a socialist, then it is better than being what you are.

Contango

Re: "what does that make you?"

A free-market capitalist.

A TRUE socialist wouldn't have any retirement assets invested with your so-called "corporate overlords."

Nemesis

The Consitution doesn't guarantee anyone monetary benefits at taxpayer expense, so there's no problem with making those benefits contingent on a limited waiver of 4th amendment rights for drug testing, any more than there is with making certain DOT licenses contingent on it.

Pterocarya frax...

There are a bunch of court cases that state otherwise.

Nemesis

The Consitution doesn't guarantee anyone monetary benefits at taxpayer expense, so there's no problem with making those benefits contingent on a limited waiver of 4th amendment rights for drug testing, any more than there is with making certain DOT licenses contingent on it.

cam

I hate Kasich and I sure the heck didn't vote for him. BUT I got to say this is one good thing he is doing. I don't want to hear any excuses from people. If you get food stamps and have no kids you got to work or something. Making them go to do something is better then just letting them do nothing at all. Great move.

KURTje

Now lets move to a Federal level. Let's look at Social Security next.

OMG.LOL.WT_

Some counties exempt-------------Once again "some are more equal than others" Animal Farm

Mum-of-One

Let us not forget that you do not have to be unemployed to receive food stamps. To qualify for food stamps, your income must be below the Federal Poverty Guideline. For a family of three, that means you can make $1300 a month and still be eligible for about $190 in food stamps. This only allows you to buy food items. You cannot get paper products or cleaning supplies which are very costly. I wonder how many could get by working full time on a salary of $1300 per month. Try it. See how it works out for you.

reporter54

in what county? Ottawa gives about $68 a month.

reporter54

So how many people on food stamps or welfare do you suppose are baby factories, as you call them? Do you have any statistics on this? Or you just saw a few black girls with 4 kids apiece at the grocery store using their food stamp card? Really, you people make assumptions on your own personal generalizations and prejudices without having any facts. And people have to qualify for the benefits they receive-they don't just hand them out so people that are getting benefits most likely qualified and deserve them. There may be a few abusing the system but will eventually get caught. Also if you do look at the statistics, there are more white women on welfare than blacks.

deertracker
bigrmachine

I read the following article this morning in another newspaper and then read this one here in the Register.
I am getting to feel as if the general public is just out to cut their own throats.

http://www.journalgazette.net/ar...

deertracker

You people sound a bit ridiculous. I think you should be required to work a paying job in order to receive any assistance and most people that receive assistance do go to work daily. If the state did not enable freeloaders there would be less of them. On the other hand, if I do work daily I should at least be able to afford food! It is not as practical these days to work multiple jobs because of lifestyle. You still have to actually take care of your family. You know, cooking, cleaning, child rearing, those things. It has to be done!

Contango

Re: "if I do work daily I should at least be able to afford food!"

As a percentage of income, the avg. citizens of the U.S. spend less on food than countries like India where some spend 80% of their income.

http://www.motherjones.com/blue-...

Gotta love the whinny, spoiled rotten Americans who think that 'somebody' owes them ‘something.’

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The Hero Zone

I do agree with you, deer, and have some resonance with what Pter was saying above. Much of this goes back to education which is what would break these chains (real or stereotyped) of "baby factories", "welfare queens", and other abusers.

arnmcrmn

and how many people on welfare are taking care of their kids? They are breeding kids that are being raised by grandparents or relatives and falling into the same cycle.

Cleaning? Cooking? You mean throwing processed food into the microwave for 2 minutes and then throwing the scraps in the trash.

You are so full of excuses that enable people to do nothing. You are the problem with America.

sandusky2012

I say limit what they can purchase like chips and pop too many fat kids now because parents buy this stuff

Mum-of-One

So doing the table for an average family of four, full time employment at IAC for 11.50 per hour, on an average of 40 hours per week, if you get 40 hours per week. Sometimes if it is not busy there will be "lay offs". You would still be eligible for $395 to $405 in SNAP benefits per month. This would hardly solve the problem. Just imagine if the majority of employed in IAC are all eligible for SNAP benefits or even only half being eligible that is quite a responsibility that needs to be met. IAC are benefiting by paying low wages which in turn qualifies many many employees for benefits. Who wins here?

starryeyes83

Income spending for families eating out doesn't seem to have slowed much.

starryeyes83

SNAP isn't just factored with someone's wages. They also count household and personal assets and go by "shelter costs". Although, it differs state to state.

The criteria is listed on their website.

Contango

"...in June, the number of households receiving foodstamps rose to 23.117 million, an increase of 45.9k in one month, and also a new record high."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/20...

registerer

I have tried since this went up to refrain myself. However, I just left the grocery store where the lady in front of me with fake nails and an i-phone purchased 2 pkgs of Nickles iced rolls, king size Reese-cup candy bar and king size M&M's. She used her Ohio Directions card! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!\

The gov't needs to stop this kind of purchases on the Ohio Directions Card!!!!

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BULLISDEEP

It's food . Might not be the healthy kind ,but still food.

Why are you stalking people , looking for credit card numbers and pin #'s ? Some just can't mind their own beeswax.

registerer

Well bully I guess I do mind because the next thing you know the will bleeding us for healthcare to control their diabetes and other health related concerns. Apparently I struck a nerve with you. Maybe you should stop using your ohio directions card on junk food!

candleburner

I don't mean to take sides here but I do agree with both of you in this instance. I've seen people using their food stamps to buy things that were extravagant and when compared to the other things in their cart - and no I'm not really stalking them just behind them in line waiting and most times there's not much to do when there's so few lines open but look at what's being bought - you see some of the nonsense things that are being bought and I wonder where they're coming up with the money to buy these things since they're having to use food stamps to pay for the regular food.

registerer

Yeah, I am not saying I am against people that are tying to help themselves and need a little extra help. I am just saying that the foods they are allowed to buy is out of control. Basic food staples meat, milk, bread, noodles, potatoes, veggies, fruit etc is all that should be allowed. No chips, pop, cookies, candy, ice cream etc should be allowed.

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BULLISDEEP

Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program

Eligible Food Items

Households CAN use SNAP benefits to buy:

Foods for the household to eat, such as:
-- breads and cereals;
-- fruits and vegetables;
-- meats, fish and poultry; and
-- dairy products.

Seeds and plants which produce food for the household to eat.

In some areas, restaurants can be authorized to accept SNAP benefits from qualified homeless, elderly, or disabled people in exchange for low-cost meals.

Households CANNOT use SNAP benefits to buy:

Beer, wine, liquor, cigarettes or tobacco;

Any nonfood items, such as:

-- pet foods;
-- soaps, paper products; and
-- household supplies.

Vitamins and medicines.

Food that will be eaten in the store.

Hot foods.

Additional Information

“Junk Food” & Luxury Items
The Food and Nutrition Act of 2008 (the Act) defines eligible food as any food or food product for home consumption and also includes seeds and plants which produce food for consumption by SNAP households. The Act precludes the following items from being purchased with SNAP benefits: alcoholic beverages, tobacco products, hot food and any food sold for on-premises consumption. Nonfood items such as pet foods, soaps, paper products, medicines and vitamins, household supplies, grooming items, and cosmetics, also are ineligible for purchase with SNAP benefits.

Soft drinks, candy, cookies, snack crackers, and ice cream are food items and are therefore eligible items

Seafood, steak, and bakery cakes are also food items and are therefore eligible items

Since the current definition of food is a specific part of the Act, any change to this definition would require action by a member of Congress. Several times in the history of SNAP, Congress had considered placing limits on the types of food that could be purchased with program benefits. However, they concluded that designating foods as luxury or non-nutritious would be administratively costly and burdensome. Further detailed information about the challenges of restricting the use of SNAP benefits can be found here:

Report -- Implications of Restricting the use of
Food Stamp Benefits

Energy Drinks
When considering the eligibility of energy drinks, and other branded products, the primary determinant is the type of product label chosen by the manufacturer to conform to Food and Drug Administration (FDA) guidelines:

Energy drinks that have a nutrition facts label are eligible foods

Energy drinks that have a supplement facts label are classified by the FDA as supplements, and are therefore not eligible

Live Animals
Live animals may not be purchased with SNAP benefits.

Pumpkins, Holiday Gift Baskets, and Special Occasion Cakes
Pumpkins are edible and eligible for purchase with SNAP benefits. However, inedible gourds and pumpkins that are used solely for ornamental purposes are not eligible items.

Gift baskets that contain both food and non-food items, are not eligible for purchase with SNAP benefits if the value of the non-food items exceeds 50 percent of the purchase price.
To read our most recent notice about Gift Baskets, click here.

Items such as birthday and other special occasion cakes are eligible for purchase with SNAP benefits as long as the value of non-edible decorations does not exceed 50 percent of the purchase price of the cake.

Last modified: 07/25/2013

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buckeye15

I shop in local grocery stores all the time, and I never observe this behavior. I wonder why that is. Oh wait, it must be because I don't shop at places like Walmart. Or maybe it is just because I don't spend all my time nosing into other peoples' private business, like conservatives do.

Contango

Re: "other peoples' private business, like conservatives do."

Delusional nonsense.

The whole basis of liberal-socialism is a centrally planned life from cradle-to-grave.

Repubs and Dems: The Dumb and Dumber parties.

buckeye15

Ask the women who can't get a PAP smear, or birth control, or who have to go through a vaginal ultrasound who is at fault for invading their private lives. It is the conservatives passing these restrictive laws. That is not delusional....it is a fact.

Not sure what you mean by: "The whole basis of liberal-socialism is a centrally planned life from cradle-to-grave" I came to liberalism late in life, after I saw the evils of Reaganism and what followed.

Contango

Re: "It is the conservatives passing these restrictive laws."

And liberals (socialists) aren't about redistribution of wealth and vote buying?

IMO, both tangable and intangable assets = property.

registerer

Well I was at Hogues in Bellevue getting hamburger potatoes and bread. Food that actually has nutritional value. Not nosing but kinda hard to miss while standing in line.

Mum-of-One

Why do you think you have the right to judge somebody solely on what they eat or how their nails are done? Just because they receive SNAP benefits does not mean that they need to be scrutinized by a random shopper in Kroger. Those who receive benefits, whatever kind of benefits they may be, are just as significant as you.

registerer

If you are in financial distress and need assistance for food then you shouldn't be spending available money on non essential items.

Nemesis

"Random shopper at Kroger" = a TAXPAYER who has every right AND responsibility to scrutinize how his tax dollars are being used.

queenjhb

a food card voucher for only buying ,potatoes, onions ,carrots, celery, beans , whole grain bread, nutritious cereals, 2% milk, fresh fruit or canned fruit & veggies only, make soup. No junk food ,pop or candy , with a picture I.D. proof of volunteer work or other ,classes , part time job. Then the system could possibly work. Maybe.

starryeyes83

What, other produce doesn't count?

totallyamazed

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Kudos Gov. Kasich, accountability for government assistance is the key.
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Mr. D

regist. . . You have to be awfully close to tell the difference between a credit, debit, gift or snap card. I think you are just nosey. . .
btw, for your well being, potatoes and bread are loaded with carbs; carbs that turn to sugar in your body. To many carbs in your diet is an unseen catylist for diabetes. You should concentrate on eating healthy.

registerer

Thank you Mr d for the nutritional talk. However, consuming them in moderation is considerably better than candy, cookies etc. I only knew it was the Ohio directions card because the lady asked the cashier prior to purchase if she had enough in her account. Plus some people just don't care almost like they are proud of it.

LadyC

Too bad food costs so freakin much regardless of how you pay for it. I wonder how much gets thrown in the garbage when nobody can buy it. And I wonder how much the new red tape regulations will cost vs. how much they will save. If food stamp recipients want to leave Erie County and move to an exempt one, let them. Who cares? It will leave more of those gravy jobs for the rest of us to fight over. And I really gotta feel sorry for some people whose lives are so miserable, by being taxed enough already, that they stand in a line watching what other people buy and what they pay for it with. If it ruins your day that much, go to the U-scan and you won't have to see it. And you won't have to see the fake nails, that maybe she did herself or a friend did for her.

starryeyes83

Smaller grocery stores don't have u-scan.

LadyC

Then read a magazine or something. Or the Bible.

starryeyes83

Screw your bible. It's fake. This same thing goes on at a food pantry because I used be a screener. And people were caught using fake addresses who didn't live in the community at all.

LadyC

I was being sarcastic. But seriously, yes, there are a lot of deadbeats working the system. I would like to see a stop to it, too. But, it isn't my job to watch what people buy with their food stamps and I'm not about to let it get me all mad. No doubt there are a lot of people that have fallen on hard times or had reduced hours, and maybe they need some extra help. The scammers shouldn't spoil it for those who genuinely, temporarily need it.

ladydye_5

I've seen it also. They have all name brand food. Lobster tails, prime rib and all the candy, chips you can stuff in a shopping cart. Fake nails, iphones and a Lincoln Navigator to put it in. Then pay with a Snap card.....they stop to buy lotto tickets on the way out. It does happen. I see it in Fremont. There are those that scam the system, there are those of us that get mad about it. Not much you can do. I save my pennies, I use my coupons, and I shop the sales. I try and do what I can to buy healthy and buy smart.

LadyC

No doubt there are some scammers. But there are many more who are among the working poor, and it really doesn't do anyone any good to get worked up over who's buying what. I like to shop early in the morning and go to the U-scan, that way I'm in and out quickly without distractions. And I like to think most of the scammers are going to eventually get caught in their own game or somehow self destruct. It sure would be nice to see some more affordable pricing on the healthy stuff. That distresses me the most, that a lot of that will be thrown away. I am definitely going to expand my garden next year, and continue to get the fresh stuff from the Farmers Market.

rezzy

You all may or may not like republicans, but at least they know how to create jobs and run the country.

cleopatramt1230

There are many jobs out there that pay well and JFS/Jobstore actually can be very helpful. There are workshops and many other resources. My fiance actually got help getting his CDL through them. Do what you need to do to get yourself ahead. This is how the system is SUPPOSED to work.

red white and blue

I could straiten this welfare thing up in one day.I'll sit at the desk up front when they come in before u get an application I will as do u have a high school diploma? Can u pass a drug test? Once we get past that now we can move on.so you need help I know its rough out there.we have free day care you get 3 months of help till u find a job after that your on your own for at least 9 months

starryeyes83

What, so in 9 months they can get preggers again?

Rosa

Wow, first thing Kasich has done that makes sense...But what about him, having two residences, that we the taxpayers pay for extra security ,because he chooses not to live at the governors mansion??!! He certainly should practice what he preaches. Can't stand him

red white and blue

High five rosa

arnmcrmn

Always an excuse for the lazy left. Always doom and gloom. Instead of forcing someone to fish who is perfectly able to, they'd rather have it delivered to their door each day. EXCUSES are what enable the able people you protect.

starryeyes83

Kasich could work to bring more industry to Ohio, and I don't mean more hospitality /service jobs.

Some of these able-bodied people absolutely refuse to work and they cannot pass the drug tests. And they've been getting away with it for a long time.

arnmcrmn

Go to your local hospital and watch and ask questions. The majority of the welfare people that are able to work, but do not, have iphones, hair done, nails did, coach purse and nice clothes. You know, those are all now considered must haves in society.

Truth or Dare

Hey Rosa; He can't live in the Gov.'s mansion if it's being rented out for weddings. It isn't cheap either, and I wonder what they do with the $$$$$! Far too many are all the same, even the newbies and jumpers that want to fly under a new banner. Makes it difficult for anyone to have any semblance of trust for elected, appointed political officials, no matter the party affiliation.

Let the people eat, and I would suggest if the Gov. wants to save us money, what he should do instead is seriously address the fraud within Medicaid, which by the way is due to the Providers! Oh, wait a minute, can't do that right, it's the billion $$$$ healthcare/pharmaceutical industries.

Peninsula Pundit

I'm certain all of these vindictive folks, when they lend a guy on the street a quarter, follows them to make sure they don't spend it on booze.
From a Christian standpoint,(yes, I know, who cares?)we are charged to help those who ask it of us without question.
The Lord judges both parties in the end, impartially and righteously.
As long as you, as the giver, answers, 'Yes, I gave when asked', you are in the clear.
The Lord will also judge who received your quarter as well, impartially and righteously. He will be justified or condemned, according to what he did with your quarter.
Can you just stop for a minute and allow the Judge of all to make his own decisions?
Judge not,lest ye be judged.
It isn't just words in a book, it's a promise.

Nemesis

The unquestioning part is a stretch.

Jesus taught people to be good stewards. He did not command forgiveness in the absence of repentance. Paul said, if a man will not work, let him not eat. Jesus and His disciples gave food to the poor, not money; the only one who advocated giving money to the poor was Judas.

Then there's the fact that NOTHING in the Bible justifies food stamps. Jesus said feed the poor - NOT let Caesar feed the poor, and CERTAINLY NOT send Caesars troops to take from others to feed the poor.

KURTje

Yeah Penninsula....some sold the booze too.